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As it turns out, that is an American opinion, not a Japanese one. The Japanese see anime characters as being Japanese. It is Americans who think they are white. Why? Because to them white is the Default Human Being.

If I draw a stick figure, most Americans will assume that it is a white man. Because to them that is the Default Human Being. For them to think it is a woman I have to add a dress or long hair; for Asian, I have to add slanted eyes; for black, I add kinky hair or brown skin. Etc.

The Other has to be marked. If there are no stereotyped markings of otherness, then white is assumed.

Americans apply this thinking to Japanese drawings. But to the Japanese the Default Human Being is Japanese! So they feel no need to make their characters “look Asian”. They just have to make them look like people and everyone in Japan will assume they are Japanese – no matter how improbable their physical appearance.

>> No.9045709
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When you think about it there is nothing particularly white about how anime characters look:
•huge round eyes – no one looks like that, not even white people (even though that style of drawing eyes does go back to Betty Boop).
•yellow hair – but they also have blue hair and green hair and all the rest. Therefore hair colour is not about being true to life.
•small noses – compared to the rest of the world whites have long noses that stick out.
•white skin – but many Japanese have skin just as pale and white as most White Americans.
Besides, that is not how the Japanese draw white or even Chinese people. The otherness of foreigners is clearly marked by physical stereotypes – just as Americans do with people of colour. In anime White Americans are stereotyped as having yellow hair, blue eyes and a long or big nose:

>> No.9045717

because white skin is best skin


even black people (girls only) wish to be white

>> No.9045727 [DELETED] 

>>9045707
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ます!

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頻繁に私が見逃したり、私の自由な時間に見る機会がなかった古い映画に
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>> No.9045731

>>9045727
NOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.9045732

I never thought they looked white, or Japanese for that matter until someone brought the matter up on /a/ few years ago that they look white.

http://www.matt-thorn.com/mangagaku/faceoftheother.html

/thread

>> No.9045733

That's a good speculation. I'd like to add that the exotic hair colours are mostly used to distinguish between characters.

Nevertheless, not /jp/ related.

>> No.9045734

lol white people gonna white

>> No.9045738

gaijin in anime all have big noses and chins and jaws and are huge

>> No.9045747

It was about facial lines or something like that.

>> No.9045752

there goes them gaijin scum thinkin they impotant agin

>> No.9045765

>>9045707
>>9045709
Ah, yeah... well it sort of makes sense.
Then again, I never really thought of anime characters as white or japanese defaults, I just don't think of ethnicity.

>> No.9045771

>>9045765
>Look at me, I am somekind of transhuman who nolonger thinks among racial or tribal lines.

>> No.9045775

>>9045771
Get a load of this guy.

>> No.9045777
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The interminable controversy over the ethnicity of anime-styled characters and the pedestal upon which many Japanese ensconce white girls is being stoked by the image above – cute anime girls, it maintains, are drawn with Caucasian bone structure.

The points the image makes:

Whites have a convex forehead, (East) Asians a concave one

The rear of a Caucasian skull is convex, the Asian concave

Caucasians have a protruding chin and concave jaw, Asians a protruding jaw and receding chin

Caucasians have lower positioned eyes, Asians higher positioned ones

>> No.9045780

>>9045771
>>>/pol/

>> No.9045786

>>9045777
Caucasians are the superior race then, yes?

>> No.9045791

>>9045786
Yes.

>> No.9045795
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>>9045791
This changes everything!

>> No.9045800

>>9045777
Talk about a troll picture.
Why did they have to compare an average white girl to an ugly japanese in that? Of course they'll say that -white is superior- after that..

>> No.9045803

>>9045791
Well alright then.

>> No.9045810

>>9045800
Give me ONE picture of a 3DPD Japanese female that is not that horrible.

>> No.9045811

actually, I see them as japanese too
since their faces are triangle and not square

>> No.9045812
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>>9045777
Not even trying.

>> No.9045815

>>9045800
It was made by someone japanese so they must've thought that the japanese girl they choose must've been average looking, or worse...the best looking japanese girl he could find.

>> No.9045817

>>9045800
If you think that's how an average white girl looks like, you're seriously deluded.

>> No.9045823
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>>9045810
U mad bro?

>> No.9045829
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>>9045777
YEAH LOOKS LIKE YOUR AVERAGE WHITE FEMALE

>> No.9045826

>>9045823
>THAT NOSE
GIVE SIDE PROFILE, WATCH IT'LL BE THE SAME

>> No.9045827

>>9045823
Any girl from the front would look that good. We are talking profile here.

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9045830

>>9045823

>> No.9045832

>>9045815
You can tell because of all the chineese alphabets on it.

>> No.9045834

>>9045826
>>9045827
He asked for a 3PD Japanese girl, not a profile picture. The only one talking about profile picture is YOU. And protip: most people look downright awful in front pictures, that's why you see them taking pictures of themselves in stupid angles.

>> No.9045837
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>>9045834
strawman argument

>> No.9045838

>>9045795
I want to fuck that uniform so bad :3

>> No.9045843

>>9045834
we are compairing profiles you fucking delusional cunt.

>> No.9045845

>>9045837
Except the only one strawmaning is you with your whole "lol he's using strawman am I clever yet??" and image macro rubbish.

>> No.9045844

Lol average white women are nicer than average Japanese women. Keep your weeaboo bias out of it moron. Also, show side profile anyone looks good from the front asswipe.

>> No.9045851
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9045851

Time to abandond thread, gooks ITT and they literally buttdevastated.

>> No.9045862

>>9045845
Lol you're fucking retarded.

>> No.9045855
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>>9045845
again strawman argument, cough up a japanese girl's profile picture already

>> No.9045859

>>9045843
nope, the only one discussing it is you. you were told hard and you're trying to backpedal now by saying "lol we're discussing a different thing!"

>> No.9045864

>>9045855
He wont. It would crush his idealised world view.

>> No.9045872
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>>9045864
that explains why he hasn't posted one yet

>> No.9045873

>>9045859
Its in the fucking picture: >>9045777

We are comparing Japanese and Aryan profiles.

>> No.9045875

you know what a beautiful woman in English speaking countries is called?
A tourist!

>> No.9045892

>>9045873
the thing is YOU ARE. this whole thread focuses on whether anime characters look white or not, and here you assume that the whole discussion revolves around what you think it does based on one picture that you posted. protip: it doesn't, and the guy clearly only asked for a picture of a japanese girl that doesn't look that ugly, not a side-picture, stop back-pedalling you insufferable retard. and stop the samefagging already while you're at it

>> No.9045894

hurt feelings everywhere

>> No.9045904

Interesting stuff, OP. Thanks for that.

>> No.9045905

>>9045892
>samefagging
>>9045862
>15:03
>>9045855
>15:03
No.

You are clearly mad. We win and that's that.

>> No.9045915

>>9045892
He's using the pic to show that they are white in anime. Protip: stoping acting like your superior fag.

>> No.9045912
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9045912

>>9045826
>>9045827
>>9045843
>>9045855
>>9045864
>>9045872
>>9045873
you want profile pics? oh look, i can cherrypick as well, look how clever I am. looks like you just got told

>> No.9045919

>>9045905
Seconded, /jp/bro.

>> No.9045920

>>9045915
but his picture proves nothing at all. are you that stupid or just playing one?

>> No.9045916
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9045916

>>9045912

>> No.9045922

>>9045912
>>9045916
now there's 2 white girls xD

>> No.9045924

>>9045916
Shes hot as fuck, FRONT PICTURE NOW.

>> No.9045929

>>9045916
>>9045912
That's not a side profile, you can see their right eye. If you have a perfect profile (without the right eye showing) It'll most likely look the same as the Japanese girl in the original comparison.

>> No.9045937

>>9045929
if it makes you sleep better at night, you keep thinking just that

>> No.9045933

>>9045920
You're retarded, do you not see all the winning evidence in this thread, or are you really that deluded to think Japanese women actually look like anime faces despite their oval appearance.

>> No.9045936

>>9045929
Probably, yes.

>> No.9045942

>>9045937
lol theres a reason why you cant find any profetional jap pictures thats truely a profile picture

>> No.9045948

>>9045916
FRONT PICTURE OR GTFO

>> No.9045951

>>9045916
post front pic fagit

>> No.9045953
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>>9045933
>or are you really that deluded to think Japanese women actually look like anime faces despite their oval appearance.
uhh what? i never said this. do you really think a handsome american cartoon characters that looks like brad pitt represents the average american male? or a american female cartoon characters that looks megan fox represents an average american woman? of course animators/creators won't make main characters look ugly. I'm done with this cesspool vermins, you're dense as fuck

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>>9045948
>>9045951
3rd'ed

>> No.9045957
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9045957

The gook is strong in this one.

>> No.9045970
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9045970

for racial purity in animu!

>> No.9045984
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9045984

It's difficult to find a fair profile for white women, as almost all the ones I can find are of models, similar to to the asian models in >>9045916 and >>9045912.

>> No.9045990

>>9045984
Look how much true this speaks! Mind blowing!

>> No.9046025

>make similar thread four times
>janitor deletes it

MEIDO!!!

>> No.9046069
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9046069

OP I have used one of your reference images and the 1942 United States booklet on "How to Spot a Jap", and I can conclusively say that you are wrong.

>> No.9046092

>>9046069
That was an example of a Caucasian in anime, sperglord.

>> No.9046202

>>9045800
That isnt an average white girl. her forehead is jutted out like some fucking down syndrome sufferer. likewise with the asian they chose to use her head looks smashed in.


both examples for white and asian have horribly shaped heads

>> No.9046251

>>9046202
implying whites can have inferior genetics

>> No.9046279

>>9046092
But all anime characters look like that.

>> No.9046289

>This thread
Its like Im really on /v/.

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>>9046289

>> No.9046302

>>9046289
You would know, you greentexting piece of shit.

>> No.9046328

>>9046302
This is a G rated board and I will not tolerate that language

>> No.9046335

Hey janitor, /r/ thread deletion.

>> No.9046337

>>9046328
This is an 18+ website, you piece of shit.

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