/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Currently playing Ten Desires. I'm having a bit of trouble against the last spell card of mamizou. I've figured out how to clear it, but it just feels strange that I have to dodge so many bullets in the last second, it's ridiculous. I'm also trying to understand how the hell am I supposed to beat Orin, jesus christ I've practiced days and I still can't beat her.

SA with MarisaB on Hard. Why is stage 1 so god damn hard? Why can't I resist grazing every bullet? ;_;

I captured every card of Murasa listening to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ2z2mvhwDU
It felt so good.

I'm the only one who plays StB and DS using arranges of themes from the characters I'm trying to capture spellcards from?

>>9008042
>I'm also trying to understand how the hell am I supposed to beat Orin, jesus christ I've practiced days and I still can't beat her.

Welcome to the club.

i went from 97 to 104 spells beat in double spoiler today.

Aiming to 1cc PoFV on normal, gonna be hard because starting at stage 7 I invariably get buttfucked by whoever I have to fight.

Feels bad to be a scrub

Feel free to laugh yourselves silly.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21132
Second time this shit happened. Any tips other than "use MarisaA"?

>>9008120
people need to stop misusing the term 'scrub'. a scrub is someone who starts calling the game cheap, unfair, broken, etc. instead of blaming himself for his mistakes.

someone who is simply unskilled at the game can be called a novice, or something along those lines. he is not a scrub unless he starts blaming the game for his failures.

Anyone know some easy to clear scenes from levels 8 through 10

>>9008162
all of them

Decided it's time to actually finish one of these damn games. Played bits and pieces of a few, but never finished any of them and just went back to fangames/doujins. I figure if I'm going to start anywhere it might as well be at EoSD. I know the characters have small differences, but are any in particular better suited for beginners?

>>9008162
I'd say these were the easier ones.
8-1
9-2,3,5
10-3,4

well.....

beating ran....

..

yeah... normal people can't get it done.

Once, and only once, i got past Princess Tenko -Illusion- (or something like this) with 1 life.

It was enough to get to half of her before-last spell card. That one (Princess Tenko -Illusion-) always rapes me, the worse is, i only cleared easy mode with homing seals, so i always to almost time it out.

(not to mention the stage before ran, always need at least 3 bombs for chen if i don't want to lose a life)

>>9008182
Probably Reimu. Slow speed and homing bullets.

>>9008182
I'm probably going to get grief for suggesting this, but homing Reimu (ReimuA) makes the stages a lot easier. Also if you're fairly new you won't be able to maximise the damage of ReimuB since you'll probably be hugging the bottom.

Marisa has great damage, but her shot is really narrow so it's not as good for the stages if you don't know what you're doing. She also moves really fast, which can be problematic.

Who Akai Katana here?

>>9008193
Princess Tenko is nothing compared to Charming Siege from all Sides. It usually only takes one bomb and I've captured it once of twice, but jesus christ is it terrifying.

If any of you guys can find a working download of this, I will love you forever. I promise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85bE4NlzrLE

>>9008182
If you haven't started yet, I would recommend starting with IN.

>>9008182
ReimuA is really good for a normal 1cc, but you'll want to have ReimuB for the extra stage, as there are many chances to shotgun the boss.
Well, I started with MarisaB bomb spam in EoSD, and gradually got a lot better.

>>9008220
Funny, I find Charming Siege easy but her second spellcard hard.

>>9008193
I beat Ran after practicing for 36 hours straight to grab my first extra, all it takes is dedication and patience. Got any replays?

>>9008162
I'm a noob at the picture games just finishing up level 5 and heading into 6. I tried 8-8 for kicks and after 64 photos I got it, felt like it was easy stream dodging the giant orbs and shooting them regardless of whether you get a shot on Okuu or not. Might want to try beating that one if you already haven't.
Replay if you want it: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21133

>>9008193
princess tenko is easy as fuck. Ran has some scary as fuck spellcards but that isn't one of them.

>>9008193
me again, just played against ran, and captured Princess Tenko -Illusion- \o/

still lost at the same point as before

>>9008269
Wrong picture.
>>9008182
PCB was my first clear, I'd recommend that one.

>>9008269
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21134

>>9008325
Before I even watch this, you might want to consider someone besides ReimuA for the extra. ReimuB or MarisaA are great for shotgunning those spell cards.

>>9008182
In my opinion, the easiest way to beat EoSD is using MarisaB. Her shot is very powerful and her bomb will destroy any spellcard in one hit. It's great for Sakuya, since you'll be bombing through that entire fight anyway.
ReimuA is slow at killing bosses, but easier during stages.
ReimuB is the opposite, you can shotgun bosses you'll have a slightly more difficult time during bosses.
MarisaA is like MarisaB without her overpowered bomb. AKA, useless.

>>9008244
Holy shit.
Who made this?

>>9008354
>MarisaA
>useless
Do you even know how powerful her shot is from afar and how useful she is for the extra?

How do you guys play? Keyboard, gamepad?

>>9008507
HRAP EX-SE

Seimitsu master race

>>9008507
I use foot pedals.

>>9008325

Oni god "Soaring Guardian God"
This one isn't too hard when you get the hang of it so watch a survival oriented replay and watch how they run around in a circle with chen to end the card faster.

I feel like you had Charming Siege down, this card is pretty slow so It's all about predicting where the orbs will be when the wave changes.

Princess Tenko
I find this one easier if you do it vertically, probably just a matter of preference though.

Ultimate Buddhist
Listen for the sound and when you start to hear the noise try and get closer to the center and running in the circle already, that first death could have been avoided if you did that.

Unilateral Contact:
Some people prefer to head in the center for the small safe spot but I don't think it's worth it without a faster character than Reimu to run out.

Kokkuri-san's Contract:
You need to practice this desperately, I noticed you were afraid to move into the waves and ended up getting killed by your own circle a few times. You want to be preemptive about which direction the circle is heading and not wait until you are forced to move.

All in all, it just looks like practice will make perfect for your run, you pretty much have it down. Enjoy the card after Contract by the way, it's pretty tough.

>>9008507
Keyboard.

>>9008507
I play with Guitar Hero peripherals.

I have to play with my face to continue being challenged. Get on my level.

>>9008244
I laughed a Nue's spellcard.
Looks great, can't find a download though...Some more information would be nice, do you know when it was released/by who?

>>9008514
Sometimes i think i should go for perfecting Chen to get to Ran with 4 lives and 3 bombs, but then i remember that in most of my deaths i still have 3 unused bombs =/

Charming Siege.
Mostly i die here once then bomb it away, for some reason i can't get back to it after i died once

Princess Tenko
I can't even believe that i did not died nor bombed on this one (although i exploded a border, but i always do that to get more borders later on)

Ultimate Buddhist
The first time i got it right, no deaths and one bomb only, but yeah, i need a lot of practice on this one, as it is a lot easier than Banquet of 12 General Gods or Charming Siege imo, but i don't get to see it as often (3 times only with this one)

Unilateral Contact:
That was the first time i tried that, was hoping for more time to get back down, i think i tried to bomb when i noticed her shooting way before i expected

Kokkuri-san's Contract:
>You need to practice this desperately.
I totally agree, but that also means having to go though all the other ones first... I still need to memorize to where she forces me to move and i need better timing.

Ty for the tips, can't wait to dodge desperately as she tries desperately to shot me down on the last card, as it can't seen as anything else but a spoiled child screaming at the player 'die die die die die!!!!'

>>9008621
It was never and will never be released to the public.

>>9008649
Why the heck not?

>>9008692
Ask the creator.

>>9008649
So someone created a game for the sole purpose of recording themselves playing it?

I just played Double Spoiler for the first time...Umm do you seriously have to PRESS the shoot button every time you want to take a picture? This may be hard to explain, but in Shoot the Bullet, I used to hold focus+shoot to charge up to 100%, then simply let go of focus. Since I was then only holding down the shoot button, I could take a picture.

But in Double Spoiler, that doesn't seem to work...After charging to 100%, I have to LET GO of the shoot button, then press it AGAIN to take a picture. Is there any way to change this? I can't play like this...

>>9008030
>It's for catching the ground.
Oh, you kill me ZUN.

>>9008804
No, there is no way to change it. Yes, you can pla like this. You just have to tap a button, for fuck's sake.

>>9008354
>marisa a
>useless

You haven't done the extra stage have you babby?

Is there a way to disable the 3D backgrounds on TD? I'm trying to play it on my old laptop and get terrible fps even with frameskip

>>9009847
There is an Eosd patch to improve the background so that is possible. Might want to lurk MotK or Gensokyo.org

Tried playing PCB's extra after a few months without practice. It... didn't end well. While Ran seems easier than last time I was playing, I'm absolutely terrible at the stage. Maybe it's because I switched from ReimuA to ReimuB.

Anyone else playing Danmaku Death? It's a fantastic free game for Android, which even runs well on my shitty phone.

Its quite ok I guess still not used to using my fingers to control the thing. Hate the bombing system

I'm stuck in a loop, /jp/.
I'm a Sakuya A player, I started to play PCB (first 2hu) on hard because I wanted a real challenge. Got my ass handed to me, but after several weeks of training, I can get past Alice without dieing. The problem is, I would like to actually clear the game, but normal is just too easy it's absurd. And hard is... too hard. Any suggestions besides "get better with Sakuya A on hard"?

>>9010060
Play with SakuyaA on lunatic mode. When you can get past lunatic mode consistently with continues, you'll be ready for 1ccing hard.

Though this kind of works a bit less since PCB difficulties don't scale as much.

Does it count if I cleared IN extra, but couldn't unlock the last spellcard?

>>9010071
Does it count as a clear? Yes, Imperishable Shooting is just a bonus.

>>9010055
This was referring to >>9010055 by the way
The game is quite hard especially with my small sceen

>>9010097
Yeah, I supposed those with Android tablets and larger phones like the Galaxy S2 have the advantage. Still, I managed to get three stars on all the easy and most of the normal levels. The hard levels are murderous though.

Currently playing Great Fairy Wars
Is it just me or are there a lot more bullets than these STGs typically have?
Am I just dense?

>>9010117
I don't really get how to use the bomb though every time I try to aim it I always die. With 2 stars and above requiring at least a perfectly aimed bomb or two I think the developer should make a new bombing system or something

>>9010128
thats the point. But you can freeze them so a lot of the time you don't actually have to dodge.

>>9010134
You probably already know this from the tutorials, but aiming the bomb requires moving in the direction you wish to shoot just before releasing it. Speed also plays a role- the faster you move prior to release the faster and thus farther the bomb will go.
What I really like about this game is how replays are saved automatically and how you can very easily watch the replays for the top times. I even got on the top 100 for a couple of stages...

Just tried Danmaku Death, the touchscreen for dodging is headache inducing.

>>9010393
It's especially bad if you got fat fingers and a small screen but it is one of the best danmaku type game for android the other decent one is probably Shmup but it crashes most of the time

>>9010410
Yeah I have to admit it looks fun but my phone screen isn't as big as some of these new ones coming out and I don't have a tablet. I remember playing danmaku a year ago and thinking the same thing.

>>9010438
It's really frustrating when I accidentally slide my finger or something. Shoot 'em ups sounds like a good type of game for touch screen phones but in actuality it isn't really compatible. You can't really make precise movements on a touch screen.

>>9010393
>>9010410
>>9010438
>>9010469
Have you tried playing it with a stylus instead of your fingers ? It should become a lot easier that way...

>>9010476
A stylus? Do we need to buy a special one or just any stylus?

>>9010481
I suppose any stylus that works with your phones will do, not really an expert myself, just throwing an idea out, heh.

>>9010483
Well I just tried using my ds stylus it didn't work. If I'm not wrong only galaxy note is able stylus

>>9010493
If you're the galaxy s2 user, a quick google search of "galaxy s2 stylus" gave back some results, you probably just can't mix and match any stylus with any screen.

>>9010502
Android and Iphones need special capacitive stylus I think.

>>9010519
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/cat/Galaxy-S2-Stylus.htm
This is the site I found, I guess you can find whatever one you need here.

Just tried it with my finger, was impossible.

Think I'm going to try going for Touhou 12 on hard. I've heard the difficulty really jumps for this game, any tips?

>>9010904
hold shift for focused movement

>>9010908
Have to agree, focused movement is pretty good.

>>9010908
>>9010986
haha

Any recommended easy extra stage levels for DS? I just did Ex-1 without much trouble, Marisa's doesn't seem bad either. I want to hurry up and unlock Hatate already even though she will probably kick my ass.

>>9009825
>>9008502
Curious, why is Marisa A useful for extra?

>>9012093
except for the one Marisa thingie, they are all quite simple, watch some replays on the wiki

>>9012162
Her shot kicks ass, basically, and is reliable, unlike those illusion lasers. Pity her bombs suck though.

>>9008211

I will be when I pick it up this week.

Armed Police Batrider in the meantime.

and Diablo III

I'm absolutely terrible at UFO and I have no idea why. Even Kogasa's final spell gives me trouble, and Ichirin's first boss spell seems absurdly difficult for some reason.

I guess it's just practice-related failure, but I haven't had this level of difficulty with stage 2/3 on normal since I first started playing.

For about two weeks I've been practicing the EoSD extra stage. Probably shouldn't take this long to get it, but it's my fault for 1cc'ing Normal and not even bothering with Hard of Lunatic. Regardless, I feel I'll have it soon.

Last week I switched to keyboard from gamepad and I take back anything I ever said about gamepads feeling better and with this sudden enhancement in my ability to dodge bullets, I've improved a lot. However, I could use some advice on one of Flandre's spell cards.

I'm bad with names of spells -- after Four of a Kind, I think. The one where she has several circles of bullets radiating out. I think I'm expected to spin through the circle and maneuver through the gaps that are formed... but... is there an easier way? As of yet, I've only been able to get through it by spamming the remained of my bombs.

>>9012377
You can stick at the bottom of the screen and dodge through the bullets if you want to, but I recommend going around.

>>9008244
How did he rip all of the assets so perfectly?

I would pay cash money for that hack.

>>9012402
It's not like ZUN tries very hard to hide them.

Why can't I clear all this Umbrella?

>>9012438
Try avoiding the orbs.

キタ━━━(゜∀゜)━━━!!!!!

Finally 1cc'd PCB for the first time and am now aiming to 1cc Mystic Square with Mima.
I keep burning all my lives against Yuki and Mai...

>>9008244
I remember reading somewhere that the project's release has been put on hold for some reason or another.

>>9008260
Inperishable Night is the place to start.

What's the easiest way to beat MoF?

>>9012952
MarisaB 3 power unfocused shooting.

>>9012952
Press X

67/108, I guess this might be a good chance to take a break and try some other game on lunatic or an extra.

Is there any reason to play Sanae in TD?

As far as I can tell she has no real advantages.

>>9013058
Shes pretty shitty, I honestly don't see much point in playing her if you're going for survival. I tried Youmu the other day and she is pretty amazing. I ended up almost no deathing my first 1CC with her, died once on the third(?) to last spell card.

>>9012886
Congrats!!

>>9008804
I was thinking about your question, you might want to look into writing a tiny AutoHotKey script to automate that, it wouldn't be too hard.

>>9013085
Thank you~!

>>9013058
>Is there any reason to play Sanae in TD?
She has a separate scoreboard.

where do you guys download these?

>>9012907
But that video showcases each and every single relevant touhou. It would be fine if they just released that.

I would prefer if they gave an option for Reimu though since she's the only one whose speed/focus speed I'm familiar enough with to clear the ex stages.

Also what the fuck was up with the order of touhous in that? Putting Yuka anywhere other than near the top is stupid, and then having a special place for Yukarin above even the protags is even dumber. I did like Shikieki a lot though, that was fucking baller as shit. I was honestly expected the last touhou would have been ZUN himself (seeing as they put in Rinnosuke).

>>9013268
Also suprising the player by putting Kogasa near the very beginning was good too.

Now she's been super early (here), early (UFO stage 2), mid (TD stage 3 mid), late (DS), and super fucking late (UFO EX midboss)

>>9013268
It might be relatively buggy, maybe the guy doesn't want to release a buggy patch because it might make him look bad?

>>9013268
>Using ZUN music
>Using ZUN sprites
>Using Alphes style portraits
I think he can only release it for free.

Anyway, that video made me want to make a Touhou game too. I think it wouldn't be too hard for me because i have 2 years experience in making video games. I can also use ZUN sprites and music like that guy so it can be made faster.

The idea is touhou boss fight similar to that game but instead of fighting one by one, you can fight multiple spellcards at once. Imagine you're fighting Rumia and Cirno, each of them will use their own spellcards respectively and you try to capture both at the same time. I will try to mimic ZUN's spellcards as much as i can. It will give "infinite" replay value because there will be millions of combinations of spellcards.

Anyone has interest in a game like that ?

I managed to beat SA on normal yesterday, I just need to get UFO and mystic square and I'll have 1cc'd all the normal games.

Any general tips for UFO? Which character is the best ect.
I can get to stage 6 fairly consistently, but I'm pretty much out of lives by the time I get there.

>>9015651
regarded*

>>9015621
SanaeB is reguarded as the easiest, that bomb is ridiculous and her shot type is pretty damn good.

Why am I finding Mamizou so difficult?

That spell where the birds and dogs come in from either side (it has an overdrive mode) is giving me nightmares. Even Fujiyama Volcano felt easier than this.

The only parts of extra that I'm finding fairly easy are Nue's third spell and Mamizou's first three or four spells. Everything after that I'm dropping lives like crazy, even on some of the nonspells.

SA (Marisa C).

If you learn how to graze the bullets with proficiency,
how well does that help later on?
Or am I making mistakes by grazing?

>>9016534
>If you learn how to graze the bullets with proficiency, how well does that help later on?
You'll rarely have to PoC items to get power items or to get point items at full value. You'll score better as you increase the point item multiplier with graze.

>Or am I making mistakes by grazing?
You're making mistakes if you're running into bullets.

>>9016534
If you learn how to graze the bullets with proficiency, how well does that help later on?
You'll rarely have to PoC items to get power items or to get point items at full value. You'll score better as you increase the point item multiplier with graze.

>Or am I making mistakes by grazing?
You're making mistakes if you're running into bullets.

>>9015621
Here's what I learned about UFO.
Learn the ufo's. Memorize when each color spawns, what's the best way to go about collecting them, etc.
If you're good at collecting ufo's then you don't even have to be good at dodging bullets. You can have max lives and bombs by the end of stage 3, and just keep getting more. Once you learn the ufo system, the game is so generous with resources it's not even funny.
The first time I 1cc'd it, I had a shitload of bombs and lives the first time I ever got up to Byakuren. I'd never seen any of her attacks before and I still won easily because I had so many lives and bombs. Not from playing well, but from destroying ufo's.

http://andriasang.com/con119/cave_coo_resigns/

>>9016534
If you graze Utsuho's bullets too much, you die of radiation poisoning.

>>9015621
You have beat SoEW and you can't beat MS and UFO?
You are doing something wrong.

>>9013233

/rs/, nyaa, animebytes

After beating IN with every team on easy difficulty, have been flitting around most of the windows games.

Currently focussing on MoF, finally got past stage 4 on a single credit (normal). Curse that continue system.

>>9015501
>Anyway, that video made me want to make a Touhou game too.
I'm currently working on one, here's a screenshot of it: http://i.imgur.com/P3yYb.png (4chan won't let me upload pictures.) I'd be interested in seeing what you can make. I like the idea of being able to right multiple spellcards at once, but I'm not too sure about intentionally copying ZUN.
>>9015621
>Any general tips for UFO? Which character is the best ect.
I think the best character will depend on your taste. I would personally recommend ReimuB for your first clear, but the other shots are fine as well.
You can try watching some of my replays: http://replays.gensokyo.org/index.php?u=riz&g=12&p=&t=0&d=--&c=1&ch=0
>>9016504
>That spell where the birds and dogs come in from either side (it has an overdrive mode) is giving me nightmares.
I think that the stage version is harder than the overdrive version. I found it a little easier to time it out a few times. Other than that, it's just dodging bullets. It's easier than it looks.
>Everything after that I'm dropping lives like crazy, even on some of the nonspells.
None of the nonspells should be a threat, and I think that you're just missing the gimmicks for the other spells. Other than that, practice and watch replays.

>>9016534
It will help you, but not by very much. Grazing for survival is good, but grazing for score is not necessary. I wouldn't worry about it on any difficulty below Lunatic.
>>9017504
>Learn the ufo's. Memorize when each color spawns, what's the best way to go about collecting them, etc.
You don't even need memorization for something like that.
>If you're good at collecting ufo's then you don't even have to be good at dodging bullets. You can have max lives and bombs by the end of stage 3, and just keep getting more.
That would require you to have a maximum of one death in the first three stages, as well as a completely perfect path. That doesn't sound easy to me.
>Not from playing well, but from destroying ufo's.
Properly summoning UFO's is playing well.
>>9013233
http://pastebin.com/jhzeKp0s

/jp/, how do I stop being noob at the 2hu fighting games? Is it even possible to play them using a keyboard? Are they meant for playing on a gamepad/controller? I think mine are almost impossible to move diagonally in because of the difficulty in pressing two keys at the same time. I want to remap them to the 3x3 num pad, but the config file that came with it only has the options for left, right, up, and down.

>>9015501
Just make sure you don't put any bullshit combinations.

Kaguya's Seamless Ceiling and Mokous Fujiyama Volcano come to mind.

Or Shou's Vajra and pretty much any other card.

>>9019009
Don't bother, the fighting games are shit

>>9019009

Here's frustrated Kogasa now that I can upload it.

>>9019329

Didn't ask for opinions.

I somehow can't get combinations like 214 or 236 etc. to work. Maybe I just suck.

>>9019377
Huh? Those are like the easiest to do on a keyboard. (Well, yeah, 22 is easier, but still.) The only hard ones are the DP and reverse-DPs.

For the main shooting games which do you guys play best with?
Gamepad or Keyboard?

>>9019479
When you're more of a novice, gamepad feels better due to smoothness of movements, but when you get more acclimated to the games and start on higher difficulties, keyboard wins out most of the time since lots of tiny precise movements are better which the keyboard excels at.

It also has to do with if you're better with your fingers or your thumbs.

The skill difference between them can mean more than the first thing I mentioned.

Are the PC-98 games generally easier or harder than the windows games? I ask this because I just 1cc'd LLS on normal extremely easily the first time i ever played it in my life. Are they all this easy?

>>9019377
That is Nitori, this is Kogasa.
>>9019479
This Anon >>9019516 explained it well, I don't really agree too much with "better at fingers or thumbs" though. I'm sure you will learn to use either rather quickly.

Still trying to get past PCB Alice on normal without dying.

>>9019670
Good luck to you.

>>9019670
Once you can do that the rest of the stages should progress rather fast.

>>9020360
What? are you serious? Alice is one of the easiest bosses, Stage 4 is much harder than 3 and the prismriver sisters are much harder than alice, then comes Youmu where he will must likely lose too.

>>9020439
The primsivr's stage is easy streaming until Lily shows up. For Youmu most of her cards aren't that hard and for the ones that are he can just bomb for.

Mokou's imperishable shooting beats my ass every time. I've never captured it (not even on spell practice) and I've even captured Nue's Grudge Bow and all of Koishi's cards.

Granted I'm using the ghost team

Question

Does Reimu actually have a smaller hitbox? I think I might have more success with them.

>>9020608
Imperishable Shooting is shenanigans. Have you watched replays.

>Does Reimu actually have a smaller hitbox?
Yes, both Reimu and Yukari have a smaller hitbox.

>>9020628
I'll get it eventually, I'm just a bit rustled right now.

The hard part are the five rings in a row. Turns out going left/right through them is counter-intuitive. By moving far enough to the left of the screen (and right on the second wave) you can move mostly up and be fine.

Watching replays feels like cheating, figuring out how a spellcard works is like 70% of the fun

>>9020659
Yes, then you realize that Rotating Fixed Star is in fact the easiest card Okuu has by a landslide.

Then you feel like a chump for not using the easier method used commonly.

Speedrunners don't avoid using tips and tricks from other players, why should you? I'm not condoning going outright and watching a run before you try it. The fun is figuring it out but when you hit a roadblock there's nothing wrong with taking some advance or at the very least watching to see how other people have gotten through it after you succeeded yourself.

>>9020659
>>9020669

It is also possible that you will learn a technique (not even specific to a spellcard) that you might not have thought of otherwise.

Just yesterday I was able to almost defeat Flandre on EoSD Extra Stage. As of now I can't even get past the second wave of enemies without losing all of my lives. How did this happen?

>>9020546
> For Youmu most of her cards aren't that hard and for the ones that are he can just bomb for.
Lol'd. With reasoning like that, >>9019670 would have beaten Alice years ago, you know?

bump

Not stg related,but touhou related, and the Sappheiros thread vanished.

How in the absolute fuck am I supposed to beat komachi mctits? Yuyuko+youmu were a joke,as was every boss so far,but Komachi is kicking my ass. Team is Mokou/Sakuya, Alice, Sanae/Patchy (might sub in reimu?). Her status effects arent even touching me, but the amount of damage she's doing is ridiculous, not even alice can tank her. Everyone's level 24~ish,if that helps.

Who's the hardest/easiest stage 6 boss in your opinion?
I'd say Remilia is by far the easiest, and Yuyuko is the hardest.

>>9024331
Hardest: Kaguya
Easiest: Utsuho

>>9024331
>Remilia is by far the easiest
Stop playing Normal and go play lunatic, Remilia is the hardest boss on the PC games.
Easiest must be Kanako or Okuu

>>9024331
Hardest: Kaguya
Easiest: Miko

>>9024331
Okuu is the easiest final boss and Remilia is the hardest, if you play above normal mode :3

>>9024500
Remilia is midtier.

On Normal mode the hardest has to be Erin and Kaguya with Miko and Yuyuko the easiest.

I cleared all the EX stages but can't even get past stage 3 UFO lunatic--I assume lunatic is stupid-hard and not meant to be beaten by most people. There's a world full of other video games waiting for me, I've spent enough time getting intimiately familiar with my hitbox and focus/non-focus move speeds.

>>9024853
>erin hard
I can't hear you over the sound of Malice cannon.

>>9024940
>malice cannon
>not solo Youmu
What's it like to use exploits and still be worse than legitimate shot types?

>>9024946
i haven't unlocked solo characters yet :(
I can't beat kaguya with scarlet team..

>>9024331
I find Remilia to be by far the hardest, but only considering that that EoSD's rank system can make her impossible to perfect. Other than that, I would consider the hardest boss to be Byakuren. I find Okuu to be the easiest final boss, but a few others do come close.

This is talking about Lunatic, of course. I only play Lunatic other than very rare exceptions.
>>9024853
>I cleared all the EX stages but can't even get past stage 3 UFO lunatic
That certainly does not qualify you to be good at UFO Lunatic. Even if you have cleared all the EX stages, you still have a long way to go. When I started playing UFO Lunatic, it took me ages to get past stage 3. I still remember the first time I made it to stage 4 and how proud I was. Don't even worry about it. Some of the best players I know still have trouble with UFO Lunatic.
>--I assume lunatic is stupid-hard and not meant to be beaten by most people.
It can be trivial to you if you practice hard enough. Anyone can beat it if they try hard enough.
>There's a world full of other video games waiting for me, I've spent enough time getting intimiately familiar with my hitbox and focus/non-focus move speeds.
That's nothing for you to worry about. All you need to do is work on your bullet dodging skills.

Any tips for Meiling's Typhoon?

I'm playing on Normal. It's chaotic...

>>9025372
Dodge bullets, if you think you are about to be hit use a bomb.

>>9025293
>I only play Lunatic
Orly Riz?

>>9025518
Wow, what a faggot playing on normal...I've lost all the respect I never had for him.

>>9025518
I always play Normal the first time I pick up a Touhou game, as many people do. That's usually only relevant to new games or the PC98 nowadays. #touhoupl is making me play the PC98 games, so I'll have to take care of those soon. They might be a nice break from endless UFO Lunatic.

>>9026304
enjoy your evil eye sigma.

>>9025372
for someone who FINALLY JUST 1cc'd scarlet devil on normal, i'd just recommend planing out a bomb there. i never wanted to risk loosing a life so early in the game, unless you are playing for score/epeen of course.

my rule of thumb is better to bomb them die.

>>9024500
Kanako is easy up until her last card. You must agree with this.

Thread bump before sleep.

Guys, is using vsync considered cheating? This is important for my nonexistent ego.

Pic related.

>>9028631
It's not unless you're no life nerd.

>>9028631
No, it makes you worse.

>>9028631
I'm pretty sure everybody uses it, even in Japan. Nobody minds it, and it would put you at a severe disadvantage if you didn't use it.

Fuck me. Fuck me. Fuck me.
EoSD on normal. What am I missing /jp/?
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?56ozo0j541j40d9

>>9029659
>>>replays.gensokyo.org
For future reference.

>>9028631
Yes, this is cheating, 100%.
If you played with vsync ever once - you'll never be a good touhou players and must kill yourself immediately.

>>9028631
using a bugfix doesn't make you a cheater. Using a bug makes you one, sometimes. See MoF

>>9029675
Is there any merit in posting them there?

>>9029737
Archived, other players can search for it. No mediafire annoyance even though it is probably the least annoying file host. Watching your replay now, have a few things to say.

It is really painful to play PoFV without vsync.

>>9029659
First off, I don't mean to rain on your parade but you're starting with 5 lives, not 3 which the default. Take this as you will but you are starting with more lives than what is considered for a "1CC" You can change your lives in the options menu.

Secondly before we even start, I prefer MarisaA personally for my first survival run than MarisaB because MarisaA does a lot more damage at the bottom where you were hanging out. You will notice that to hit with all of MarisaB's bullets you have to be a lot closer to the enemy. Less time on spell cards is less of a chance of you dieing. MarisaA's spread isn't so great but that just means you will have to be more alert during stages and memorize them a bit.

I started to write things down on spell cards what you could have done but you seemed to bomb a lot of them from the start. For example, Cirno's Icicle Fall is pretty easy once you figure it out, just and go to the left or right early on in the spellcard before they are closing in on you and you can easily avoid the burst she does near the end. You bombed near the end of Meiling's colorful rain when you didn't seem like you were in much danger. I can understand bombing your way through a spell card you don't think you can handle but this happened a bit too much in my opinion.

I'm not sure whether I should advise you to improve your intuition on your movements or your sense of bullet directions because you pulled off some pretty good moves as well as ran into some bullets that really didn't need to happen. So, as always here, practice is perfect.

Lastly, I noticed you bombed on Remilia's last spell card when there were no bullets near you, her last spell card does not allow any damage to her when you are bombing so keep them strictly for survival.

>>9029857
And one more thing, you might want to install the EoSD hitbox patch since this seems like your first game. It generally is discouraged but it is important to know where your hitbox is your first game instead of second guessing yourself on whether you can fit or not.

Install the vsync patch regardless, newer computers cause the game to lag on input so you aren't playing it the way the game was meant to be played.

Any good recorded runs for Giga Wing 1?
I want to play it again, and i kinda need it as a encouragement.

>>9029873
> It generally is discouraged but it is important to know where your hitbox is your first game instead of second guessing yourself on whether you can fit or not.

The main problem with hitbox visibility is when you cling to it too much.

Beat TD normal with reimu today, feels good man.
Then almost did it with Marisa, made one silly mistake and ended up one bomb short.

This is only the second game I've beaten on normal I think.

>>9029873

I would advise you to not listen to this guy regarding the hitbox patch. Learning to know where you hitbox is without looking at the dot is a a good thing, very useful talent toi have. And the best way to learn that is to not play with one from the get go.

>>9029857
Thanks. Pretty helpful. The reason I bomb too much is to avoid dying with bombs which happens a lot once I try to hold them out longer.
>>9029873
I likely already have hitbox patch since I see a small dot in the center of the character sprite.
If I already have hitbox it's likely I have some other patches too so how can I confirm my lack of vsync patch?

>>9029659
Practice stages 5 and 6. You shouldn't have to bomb Sakuya's first two spells at the very least, they're mostly streaming.

You hug the bottom too much. You can get away with it in stages 1-3, but it will get you killed later on, particularly against Sakuya.

Your general dodging skill isn't too bad though, definitely enough to 1cc it with the standard number of lives. Your stage 4 was good (practice Patchouli a little more, you hug the bottom too much), and you don't make any seriously stupid mistakes.

>>9010040
How could I play anything that doesn't have any little girls!
When it comes to mobile danmaku i prefer ろくしゅーと☆ぶんかぶ

>>9030034
Sure, it is great to learn by knowing where your character is at but in the very beginning knowing even how large your hitbox is can take awhile. I remember when I fit started playing DDP I had to end up googling to see how large it is or even where it was at.

>>9030095
If you're not opening the game from vsync.exe then you don't have the patch, unless you changed the name.

>>9029857
>First off, I don't mean to rain on your parade but you're starting with 5 lives, not 3 which the default. Take this as you will but you are starting with more lives than what is considered for a "1CC" You can change your lives in the options menu.
This is not even funny anymore.

>>9030862
Who's trying to be funny.

I can't beat SA stage 5 on normal no matter what, I'm using Reimu A and even though I get to that stage fairly easily I get raped even before encountering Orin.

Finally caught QED. How do I do maze of love with MarisaA?

How long does it generally take for someone to be capable of finishing EoSD extra stage? I hear it's one of the easiest. Still, I've been at it for weeks and can't do it and I think I'm ready to just give up. I'm getting worse.

>>9030879
>1CC — 1 Credit Clear (alternatively, 1 Coin Clear) — Completing the game from start to finish without using extra continues (necessary to see the good endings in most Touhou games). Credit refers to the arcades where the term first started. Each credit is usually bought with a single coin.
-Touhou Wiki

So, complete with no continue is 1CC. Game having more or less heath as a feature doesn't really affect this definition. Exploiting bugs or cheating is a different matter.

>>9030946
I've only given it a couple of looks every now and then (I haven't extensively practiced at all) but it definitely seems like one of the harder extra modes to me. Suwako and Mokou are loads easier.

>>9030948
Its probobly not a 'true' 1cc unless you use the default number of stock and bombs.

>>9030948
You will find if you use your continue using will start with 3 lives. I'm not trying to be a dick but a lot of people aren't going to consider that a "1CC" since one of your credits has a different amount of lives.

>>9030948
You have to use the default settings like you would with an Arcade, which is why giving yourself extra lives (basically an extra continue) invalidates a 1cc.

>>9030946
Someone who is good at shooting games could do it on their first try. I was in your position when I was clearing my first extra. Just keep working on it. If it's too hard for you, take a break and come back later. You might improve until then.

http://tenka.seiha.org/2012/05/%e2%99%ab-twilight-i-gave-you-time-to-steal-my-mind-%e2%99%ab/

Shared replays? What?

>>9030932
Sit at the bottom and shoot.

>>9030914
do you even bomb?

>>9031135
Post the "Do you even bomb?" one

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21250
I will never improve.

>>9030989
No. A 1CC is a 1CC regardless of conditions. What you're talking about is extra-lives 1CC vs. default-stock-and-bomb 1CC.

>>9031733
I watched your replay and this is what I thought:
First of all, Marisa might not be the perfect shot for you. I would recommend trying out Homing Reimu.
For stage 1, you could make use of focused movement and streaming a little more. You should lure the bullets away and using focused movement can help you pick out resources from the enemies. You do pkay dodging Cirno, but you may want to time a border there in order to collect the resources afterwards. You seem to do okay dodging Letty, but I sometimes think that you stand a little too high and don't make use of the vertical axis. You are also lacking in shot power, which makes this more difficult for you.
Stage 2: You could have totally seen that first death coming. Don't die there again, or at least press X. For Chen's first nonspell, it will be easier for you by staying lower and streaming rather than moving so violently around the screen. That can distract you when you are trying to dodge. You had another silly bomb, death, and bomb. Chen's last spellcard is nothing but streaming. You should barely be moving horizontally. Other than that, don't mate those silly mistakes. You almost had attacks done.

Stage 3: You shouldn't have stood so high on Alice's attack. The stage portion of stage 3 is pretty hard. Since it is mostly streamed, you should make a U shape around the screen. Staying at the bottom-center isn't going to get you far, especially if you want to collect resources. Staying at a high elevation is good for when you have a cloud of bullets, not when a bullet pattern is still forming. You need to learn to stay at the bottom of the screen more often. Think of it as playing defensively. Also, that last bomb on the stage was just lazy. You got a little overwhelmed with Alice's first attack, but it's really nothing more than moving to the side. You got a little beat up on Alice, but it's no big deal. You just need to dodge bullets and stop getting so surprised.
Stage 4: You need to learn to stream here. You can memorize the intro, if you want. Don't stay on the bottom of the screen for the portion after that. You are going to get clipped. Make a U shape. There's no problem with bombing there if you get overwhelmed. Try to time a border if you can. Other than that, you should not be so aggressive in killing those fairies, and you should practice stage 4 a little.

In general, you just need to work on your dodging skills, follow some basic principles, and learn the bullet patterns. You can do just find in this game if you practice. Also, make sure that you are using the vpatch and watching replays.
You can start by copying these:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/index.php?u=&g=7&p=&t=0&d=2&c=1&ch=40
Or you can ask me and the thread for some.

>>9030946
Do it in small milestones. First you clear the first half, then Pachu, then the second half, then Flandre's first nonspell, then her first spellcard, and so on. It's how I cleared Imperishable on Normal and it worked wonders, especially if you consider I absolutely suck at any videogame that's not a driving game.

>>9030989
>>9030998
>>9031001
These three people think a 1cc is not a 1cc unless it conforms to their narrow, autistic, elitist definition.

>>9032041
Play however you please, I won't argue how you decide to play the game in your own time.

>>9032041
Hey look it's simple. If you crank down the difficulty then you haven't cleared the real thing yet. Don't get hung up on the words "not a 1CC".

>>9031733
I don't want to make you feel bad, but watching this reminded me of how horrible I used to be. I still am horrible, I can barely make a dent in hard mode.

However, after a decent amount of practice I managed to comfortably 1cc PCB. You're not that great right now, but I can guarantee that you will improve. Follow the advice Riz gave you and keep practicing.

>>9032085
If you clear it with a single continue it's a 1cc.

I can't believe you people are so elitist I actually have to discuss what's a single continue clear...

>>9032024
>You need to learn to stay at the bottom of the screen more often
Sorry. I was following the advice of someone who told me I was doing that too much and I needed to move up higher.
This was mostly just testing out how well my hardware upgrades went, so I didn't really start getting serious until I had already cornered myself lives-wise.
look at me making stupid excuses

>>9008244
not one of u useless fucks can find where to dl this game? wow....

The fact that now pretty much every Cave game except for Akai Katana and Daifukatsu are emulated somehow made these kinds of threads much better, now that the 'touhouka a shit play a real shmup like Galaga' crowd finally got the message, that people chose to play Touhou because they wanted to. This makes me happy.

Anyway, the 1cc thing comes from the fact that shmups players are naturally very competitive, you'll probably turn into an asshole after your first 1cc too, then you'll get it.
Don't feel bad about it, just try to beat your own records first as long as you have fun. I like to play MAME by controlling two characters simultaneously. Of course I am cheating and I suck, so what, we're all social rejects here who cares about pride.
So basically, haters gonna hate.

>>9032144
I have it right here
*grabs dick*

>>9031135
I always wait until the last momento to bomb, that is when I'm already dead most of the time. Furthermore I dislike bombing with this system because when I lose power I feel too weak.

>>9032117
>Sorry. I was following the advice of someone who told me I was doing that too much and I needed to move up higher.
No, I understand. That's actually some pretty good advice, because it certainly saved you in a few bullet patterns, but it also killed you in others. The point is to do it selectively. Just remember that moving up is a viable option, but it's not always appropriate. I would recommend you to look at some replays to see how experienced players dodge. If you look at my UFO replays, for example, you will see that I spend a lot of time at the very bottom of the screen for many cards, even as far as stage 6. As you get more clears and keep practicing, you will eventually develop the instinct to dodge everything appropriately. For now, you can make up for that by planning your routes and watching replays, especially your own. I'm sure that you can go through your replay and point out some mistakes you did. In other words, don't worry, just keep practicing.
>>9032144
I looked for it a long time ago and I never found it. I don't think it's available for download.

>>9032100
There isn't a discussion to be had.

If you consider people that see a 1cc to mean default starting lives to be elitist assholes, why are you trying to gain their approval? Acknowledging their opinion on the subject is just admitting that you're concerned about your status in their eyes.

You're so silly sometimes, /jp/.

Holy fuck, I finally beat Suwako. It feels so good. It was the first time I'd reached her second survival card, so I had no idea what the fuck to do. I even died once on the stage for no reason.

I should have saved a replay for critique, but I was so excited I forgot.

>>9032205
>>9032173

Never change, /jp/. Never change.

>>9032205
>>9032173

Never change, /jp/. Never change.

>>9032217
>I should have saved a replay for critique, but I was so excited I forgot.
I know that feeling.

>>9032217
Congratulations! Suwako is one of my favorite extras to go back and play.

>>9032240
Yeah, I found her a lot more enjoyable than Ran, who I still have yet to beat. I barely made it with no lives to spare, but it could have been a pretty decent run if I hadn't died once on the fairies just before Suwako (I flew into a bullet before I could bomb) and if I hadn't made a few stupid mistakes on her spells. I was seconds away from capturing a few of them, and hit a bullet/bombed at the last second in panic.

Her two survival spells got really messy. I've only played against the first one five times or so, and I had to spam bombs in the last few seconds. Her second one is insane in the last ten seconds, I have no idea how to do it properly. I was a little disappointed by her last spell, I could probably have captured it if I wasn't panicking like crazy and bombing to make sure I didn't lose my clear. Even though I think the spell was simpler than Hourai Doll, it made me panic a lot more towards the end. Mokou is the only other extra I've cleared so far.

Feeling motivated to play now, any suggestions on my next clear?

My current accomplishments, I'm a bit rusty though.
EoSD: Normal
PCB: Hard (Lunatic stages 5/6)(Extra&Phantasm cleared)
IN: Normal
MoF: Normal (Extra cleared)
SA: Normal
UFO: Normal
DS: (68~ scenes cleared)
TD: Normal

>>9032315
UFO extra is fun and not that hard

>>9032324
That was one of my personal selections, that third kogasa spell is tuff.

>>9032315
It's nice to see that you are playing again. It's hard to tell what you should play, you have so much to work with. UFO Extra would be nice.

>>9032348
Really? I find it to be her easiest one, but to each his own. just stand in place and make a small movement if the laser beam stops on you.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21254

This was terrible even by my standards, but I figured after beating Suwako just now I might have a better chance. I haven't had enough practice to know what the hell I'm doing after stage 4.

>>9032315
Flans a pretty fun extra, and isn't that hard. I really love dodging bullets in EoSD for whatever reason.

>>9032353
>>9032324
Looks like UFO extra it is.

>>9032370
I feel like whether I die or not on that card is pure luck, maybe I was just thinking about it too much on how to avoid the lasers. The other two I'm pretty good at navigating.

>>9032392
Keep at it, I hated UFO at first but it came to be one of my more enjoyable integer numbers.

>>9032403
That was one of my other personal suggestions, maybe I'll just do all the extras.

>>9032392
Let's see...

Your stage 1 was okay, although you let go of a lot of power items. You should have collected those. Also, you could have ended that stage with an extra red. You shouldn't be switching between focus and no-focus so much in the nonspells. It's no big deal, but you should ideally be staying focused most of the time. Nazrin's last card could have been a little faster, but that's no big deal.
For stage 2, I would have planned to get that first red earlier if I was you, but it didn't really matter. I would have halted on collecting greens until after Kogasa. Also, don't use no-focus so much in Kogasa's midboss. Also, that bomb should have been a lot earlier. You shouldn't be collecting so many greens. Moving targets are easier to kill when you are focused. You could have used safespots, but that's no big deal. You did an okay job on Kogasa's rain, but you didn't need to go unfocused. You should work on a path for Kogasa's last card. It can be easy. It's the kind of card that when it's about to kill you, you will know, so you can usually bomb ahead of time.

For stage 3, the intro was okay, but you don't need to go unfocused on those three fairies. You could have killed them faster. I think Ichirin's Normal midboss is harder than the Lunatic version, so you can bombskip here if you want. I don't know why you grabbed that blue, I think that you could have avoided it. I wouldn't even be going for greens here in the first place. You didn't need to bomb for that red piece, but whatever. That next bomb was a real waste. For KKS, you went to the left to early. You are supposed to time it when Ichirin does it. Going unfocused isn't a very good way to do that nonspell in my opinion, but at least you lived. I think that you should have gone to the side for her next spellcard. You could have gotten clipped. For Ichirin's last spell, you were in a rather bad position. You can use a bomb there if you want.
For stage 4, that bomb was very wasteful, in my opinion. I would have summoned a rainbow instead of going for a red. You shouldn't have summoned on Nueball. Y-did you just pick a green?? You really shouldn't do that until after the red orb spam. You somewhat awkwardly lured Murasa's first spell, but that no big deal. You really didn't need to bomb vortex. Also, I wouldn't have started it where you did. I would have been lower. I don't think you needed to bomb Murasa's third, but whatever. You made a silly mistake; that's okay, but I wouldn't have put a bomb there. Murasa's last is harder than the Lunatic version and might be the hardest spell on Normal. Bomb it to shreds.

Does anyone know how it feels when you're like in the last spellcard in the sixth stage, and then you're a few seconds from victory, and then you die? ;__; It just happened today to me...

For stage 5, you could have picked the red token on the right, but that not a big deal. I would have also waited for the first fairy to spawn, so that you can clear the bullets. You didn't put enough firepower on the fairy on the right. On full power, with ReimuB, on Normal, you should have done it easily. It doesn't matter for your UFO route, but it would have made the game the rest of that portion easier. You could have filled that red UFO earlier, but that doesn't matter. I would have streamed those orbs slightly differently, but it doesn't matter too much. That first death on Nazrin was just silly. Don't be afraid to stand under her. You could have bombed through Nazrin's spell to get more tokens, but that's no big deal. You could have gotten that green, but it's no big deal. I would have left Shou's center column for her second spellcard. With homing Reimu, you should focus more on dodging the bullets than shooting Shou. Don't be afraid to go far when the lazers are gone, and try to stay up. The rest of that Shou was pretty bad - you just need to practice.

For stage 6, I think you know that the intro was bad. That's something you just need to practice. You didn't need to bomb Byakuren's first card. Good job with the rest of Byakuren. You look like you could have done it with a few more resources.
In general, you just need to work on your strategy. You are good at dodging bullets, but you keep making silly mistakes. I think that you can get this clear very soon.
Here's a replay of my playing Normal: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20552
The UFO route is a little sketchy because I spend most of the game with full resources, but I think that you can still learn from it. Ask me if you need another replay.

>>9032563
Yes I do. I lost a NBNUFO Lunatic run with ReimuB a few months ago on the slowdown, and I haven't gotten that run since. I've been working on it for 7 months. It still haunts me.

>>9032563
I've died on Kanako during the slowdown after winning, I can't seem to find the youtube video of some guy dieing on Remilia's Scarlet Gensokyo on lunatic into a "Problem, Miko?" image macro.

>>9032579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osf1fa4UhP4

>>9032571
Oh, that must be way harder for you than it was for me, after all I lost a simple normal run, and I completely fucked up in the beginning losing several lives. Also, do you think it would work for me to practice every DS spellcard, and then go back to play the usual canon games? I thought about doing this, so I would end up way better.

So I got a new computer and transferred all my touhou games from one computer to my new one, both running win 7 64 bit. But now whenever I try to play ESoD, PCB, IN, or PoFV it shoots me an error right after it switches to full screen. Everything from MoF onwards works fine, but I can't read what the error message says to try and figure it out.

>>9032581
I've seen this one before but it isn't the one I'm looking for, I think the one I'm looking for was a pacifist attempt.

>>9032585
You can hit Ctrl+C at those windows to copy the contents. Try pasting the contents in google.

>>9032582
>Oh, that must be way harder for you than it was for me
I'm not sure. I think it hurts a little more when you are new to the game. It feels to me like newer players usually take a bigger emotional toll than the more experienced ones. The only difference is that you can usually pick yourself up faster, and so you can dismiss it more easily. I've burst into tears upon losing runs in the past, but I don't really do that anymore, even though I play much harder runs that I only have a chance to beat every few months. I remember looking at UFO Lunatic and being very intimidated, but beating it is very easy for me now. One day, I'll probably be able to do NBNUFO runs at will, but that a little ahead of me now.
>Also, do you think it would work for me to practice every DS spellcard, and then go back to play the usual canon games?
You don't have to do all of them, but playing DS certainly wouldn't hurt. I would just recommend to play what you like; you really can't go wrong. I would never tell you to do something you don't like just for the purpose of getting better. If you like DS, go for it.

Actually, I'm in a similar position to you. I've been trying to figure out how to get better at UFO Lunatic as well. I've somewhat accomplished this by making my own shmup and using it as a playground for practicing dodging. 90fps and Ultra mode have also been nice to me. You might want to look into those. The best way to improve is to challenge yourself and play more.

As long as you are playing, you are doing something right.
>>9032585
I can't figure out what it's talking about. I've never seen a message like that before.

>>9032590
Thanks so much, after googling it I found on a japanese site that it was related to trying to start fullscreened in 1920x1080. Although now I'd like to know how to make it work anyway since I normally play in fullscreen. Windowed works fine for now though I guess.

>>9032641
I think the vsync patch might fix that for you, otherwise I think I've had this problem before and I just started windowed and switched to fullscreen everytime.

>>9032651
I was already using the vsync patch (tried it without it to see if it itself was the problem; it wasn't.) And switching while in game just crashes with the same error message.

>>9032686
Try reducing your resolution and launching it full screen? I will be a pain in the ass every time you want to play but if it works it works.

>>9032558
>>9032561
>>9032564
My UFO collection is pretty poor, yeah. I don't have any planned route and I can sometimes accidentally collect UFOs that are the wrong colour. Some of the deaths were really silly like that one on midboss Nazrin, I don't usually die there, but I decided to take a random replay rather than work for hours trying to get a realy good one.

Kogasa's last spell terrifies me. I kind of know how to do it in theory, but I always panic and bomb it anyway. Ichirin kills me a lot, fortunately only once in this playthrough. I had no idea what hit me on the midboss spellcard, I thought I'd dodged the fist but I guess not.

As for Murasa, the bomb on vortex and her final nonspell were pretty unnecessary but I didn't want to get clipped with bombs to spare. I'm not sure what you mean about "luring" her nonspells - I just dodge them as I see them coming.

Shou was terrible and I need practice. It feels extremely difficult right now.

>>9032698
Eh I will try that in the morning, I am too tired to continue with this tonight. As a side note, after mucking around in the vsync ini I found that you can set your fps above 60. Played a quick 100fps run, I can see this being great for challenging runs.

>>9032711
Also about focusing/unfocusing, I assumed that homing Reimu would do more damage unfocused if she wasn't under the boss. I think playing PCB has just gotten me into the habit of shooting unfocused though, so I'm probably wrong.

>>9032711
>My UFO collection is pretty poor, yeah. I don't have any planned route and I can sometimes accidentally collect UFOs that are the wrong colour.
Having a specified route isn't necessarily very important, but it depends. Even I still sometimes collect UFO's that I don't want to pick. It's not too common, but it happens. It's just part of UFO, and it will get better as you keep playing.
>I decided to take a random replay rather than work for hours trying to get a realy good one.
I understand. I do that sometimes as well. I was asking for help on /jp/ in beating UFO Normal around a year ago as well.
>Kogasa's last spell terrifies me. I kind of know how to do it in theory, but I always panic and bomb it anyway.
I know what you mean. I thought it was intimidating when I first saw it, especially on Hard mode. I could not believe that there were also lines of amulets coming from the side. It was a shock to me. Nowadays, it's very easy for me. That's just one thing you have to practice. It's not too bad if you bomb there, but I think that it's worth a chance, especially with homing Reimu.
>Ichirin kills me a lot, fortunately only once in this playthrough.
Don't worry about that. That's quite normal for Ichirin. Try to set it as a goal to pass stage 3 with at least 4-5 lives. After that, farm stage 4 for lives. Stage 4 will be the backbone of your run.
>I'm not sure what you mean about "luring" her nonspells - I just dodge them as I see them coming.
I was talking about her first spellcard, but as I said, it's not a big deal. It's an easy card, but you can do it a little more efficiently. Keep in mind that her first two nonspells are static, and that her third one is mostly static with a slight random element. This may be a little different on Normal mode, but it's useful to know.

>Shou was terrible and I need practice. It feels extremely difficult right now.
For me, the only challenging part of Shou is her first spellcard and sometimes her second nonspell, depending on her elevation. Everything else is trivial. This is on Lunatic, of course. If I were you, I would try to capture some of her attacks, depending on how comfortable you feel with them, but always be ready to bomb. It's Shou - there's nothing wrong with bombing there.
>>9032733
It does about the same damage, but I find it more comfortable to have the amulets close to each other. It feels awkward to me to have them spread out so much. In No-UFO runs, properly killing enemies, especially orbs, using the right focus, is extremely important. It's not quite as bad on vanilla runs, though.
>Also about focusing/unfocusing, I assumed that homing Reimu would do more damage unfocused if she wasn't under the boss.
Yup. UFO is very different from PCB.

>>9032370
I'm so bad at that third spell card, I consistently destroy the other two though.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21261
I kind of sucked on the UFOs directly pre-kogasa

>>9033122
Oh god this was -that- run, please completely ignore my ufo retardation.

>>9032100
Except people are gimping themselves when they give themselves more than the default number of lives.
If it's commonplace and accepted, then it's no wonder people generally find UFO and SA as harder games when there's no option to change the starting lives (MoF doesn't really count because of the cheap bombing system).
Players should just stick with the default lives our lord and saviour gave us in his infinite wisdom, and start learning how to manage their resources better. It'll benefit them more in the end.

>>9032148
>every Cave game except for Akai Katana and Daifukatsu are emulated
Mushihime series, Deatshmiles series, Arcana heart. DDPM, SDOJ, DF, etc...
I'm probably missing a lot of more cave games that are not emulated yet.

What's the Vsync patch actually do?
Without the patch I can play just fine, but when I use the patch I feel like lose a lot of control on my movement, just zipping all over the place. Uh, it's hard to describe.

>>9033999

What if someone 1ccs IN starting with 7 lives and manages to end up with 4 extra lives minus the lives gained ingame--would that be a fair "default" 1cc according to those standards?

>>9034452
Mushihime series, Deathsmiles 1 (not II)... what? Arcana heart isn't- whoa holy shit it actually is, the card game. Anyways... DF? What is DF?

At any rate, quite a few of those games are emulated now.

>>9034866
No. Then just go back to 3 lives and repeat, why to bother adding extra initial extends if you can clear it without them? What you people are saying is that 5 liives is considered a 1CC since you are not continuing, then doing it on easy is the same thing since you are not continuing either. 1CC os only valid on default settings (normal difficulty, default lives, default bombs).
>>9034881
Mushihime series and deathsmiles either 1 or 2 are not emulated, if you believe they are please show me a screencap of yourself emulating them on MAME. Also what is wrong with Arcana heart? it's also a cave game. DF is Dai-fukkatsu, now I noticed it was on the original post.

>>9034892
lolwat

looks like someone is a shmups babby
go take a look at system11 if you know what this it

>>9034901
What do you want me to check at system11? I never visit that place, have never found a good reason to.

>>9034892
a'ight

Also, the thing about Arcana Heart is the only Arcana Heart game is some Japanese-phone-only spinoff

>>9034924
Not him, but how did you manage to emulate Mushihime? I've been having strange problems when trying to play any kind of game on MAME. Then, a kind anon linked me a program called "shmupMAME", but unfortunately it has only old games. I would like to play the newer shmups ;_;

>>9034935
It's a relatively new version of MAME, but not the newest.
To make things simple, I uploaded my SH3-emulating mame setup a while back, here ya go.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ufhaa2oihj73i

>>9034892

If 1ccs are held as a standard of completion, then seeing how 1ccing on easy doesn't complete any of the games (in the sense of unlocking the good ends/extra stages), it doesn't count as a 1cc. The same goes for slow modes, etc. I still don't know where you got the requirement for starting on the default settings to count as a 1cc, but the option for extra lives are there, and there's nothing preventing someone from using them and 1ccing a game, although its a show of less confidence at their skill than someone who starts with less resources.

But I still don't see your point. What difference does it make if you happen to have extra lives that you never even used? At that point, all the difference is just a matter of graphics. Someone can make a no death 1cc, and whether they start with no lives or 10 lives doesn't represent any difference in their gameplay, nor skill. It might be a reflection of the player's average skill, since the fact that they prefer having more lives mean that they may sometimes tend to need them, but that's critiquing the skill of the player, not the skill shown in that particular span of play.

>>9034943
Thanks ~

>>9034856
Most importantly, it removes the input lag caused by vertical synchronization. I remember that it felt pretty weird for me too at times, but then I discovered that it was better to use it. The controls probably feel very stiff to you, but you will get used to them.
>>9034980
>What difference does it make if you happen to have extra lives that you never even used?
Other than the graphics, it has effect on your courage in facing tough obstacles. It makes you feel more confident. Furthermore, just because you_ended_ with those lives, doesn't mean that you went below the default limit that normally would have gotten you killed, and then went back up. It also has a big effect on score and possibly the amount of bombs you get from dying or finishing stages, such as IN.

>>9034943
Thank you, you are a god among men.

>>9035179
A simple question : What`s your view on people that 1CC EoSD with the maximum number of default lives? Does it still count as 1CC? Or should I just start with the minimum number? Because I just 1CCd EoSD (practiced a whole month a long time ago, gave up, played a lot of other touhous and then tried it today) starting with 5 lives.

>>9035248
Not Riz, but it's simple, never use more than 3 lives, it's preferable that you clear the game with 1 continue rather than using 5 lives, it's a bad habit doing so.

>>9035260
Well, on a side note, I've beaten the game losing only 2 lives.

I just beat PoFV extra with Komachi. It was so much fun. I played agressively from the start and cancelled most of the bullets on screen all the time. Komachi's ability is quite overpower so i didn't have any difficulty in fighting the early stages. The only problem i had was Shiki's clouds because i couldn't cancel them like normal bullets. I lost 3 lives to her and the last fight was quite anticlimactic because of the shorter immunity time.

>>9035248
Don't worry about it too much, congratulations on what you accomplished. Just don't give up on practicing because if you plan on playing MoF and up those games don't give you extra lives in the options.

>>9035248
>What`s your view on people that 1CC EoSD with the maximum number of default lives?
I personally consider a 1CC starting without the default lives to not be a legitimate 1CC. I'm not sure if the minimum number of default lives is the default. I'm talking about the number of lives you have on a fresh install. Your preference of lives depends on your tastes, but it is generally considered a "true" 1CC if you have started with default lives. If I were you, I would just play what you like to play and not worry about lives. If you think it would be more fun to set the lives to default, do that.

>>9035351
You can check what the defaults are when you go to options and 'reset defaults'. Not sure if all fresh installs (from sources other than ZUN) will have default settings when first run, so it's probably better just to be sure.

Giga wing replay from now
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3w37ji6n8gmeq2n
I haven't played for a while in it does require more technical and timing practice.

Riz cannot into PCB. This was my first clear of this shot. I don't play PCB very much.

Captured Fujiyama Volcano without looking at any replays or youtube videos, just sat in spell practice trying it over and over till I found a solution, feels good. I doubt I can reliably capture it again though. Still need to beat Mokou though, haven't made it to her final card yet.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21268

>>9035595
If you fuck op Fujiyama Volcano while playing you are fucked hard, since bombs dont do damage as soon as you can damage her again the rape train is all over you and have to bomb again, or die.

Just lost like 2 lives because of this and, even after capturing the survival, died to hourai doll.

did PCB kill anyone else's headphones?

after grinding on extra for a little bit, my headphone speakers are now all crackle-y

i think it is collecting all those cherry petals

>>9036244
I think that Hourai Doll is a lot easier than her survival. Hourai Doll is mostly moving around in a circle/rectangle while allowing for the stray bullets she shoots out later on.

>>9036367
The only hard part of her survival is the blue spoke bullets, and you can do that just by streaming it all the way to the top.
Gives you tons of time, too.

>>9036387
>The only hard part of her survival is the blue spoke bullets, and you can do that just by streaming it all the way to the top.
I don't know how people do this. I always get clipped at the top. I usually do it by going in circles. I find that the be pretty easy.

Welp, I beat her..Not that hard of a boss but still some of her spellcards are nuts. And I hate her nocards.

Died twice to hourai doll because fuck it.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21282

>>9036686
So whats next...1CC SA or Nue?

Okay guys, simple question : How hard is Flandre?

>>9036738
Not hard at all. Polly the second easiest extra boss, including pc98 extras.

>>9036735
Do Nue with me, maybe you can show me who's boss on this third Kogasa spellcard. God I hate this spellcard.

>>9036738
one of the easiest extra along with wako and Ran

>>9036750
I know who is boss.
Bomb

>>9036259
PCB extra has very lound sound, it kind of makes my ears hurt.

>>9037110
I don't get it

I'm enjoying MoF. That's right i said ENJOYING.

>>9035351
This is what arrogant lunatic players actually believe.
Completing the game without using a continue is the only thing required to successfully 1cc the game . Nothing else is a factor in it...at all. If a game gives you the choice to have 10 lives, then that's not the players fault, it's the creators, blame him, but 1cc'ing the game is very simply the act of beating the game without continuing, starting lives and bombs don't factor in at allt. Now you can challenge yourself and attempt to 1cc it with less, but it's certainly not required.

>>9037544
>This is what arrogant lunatic players actually believe.
This is what I don't want to believe because I can't clear the games without giving myself extra lives.
FTFY.

>>9037544
Can we put this to rest already? He said he "personally considers". Besides, a 1CC is supposed to be a milestone you strive to achieve, a milestone isn't helping if it varies based on player. Does it bother you that much that you have to keep posting about it?

>>9037553
But I have though. That was a challenge though, not a requirement. I'm now in the middle of 1cc'ing hard modes, nice try though, denialfag.

>>9037567
ahhh w/e, you are too stubborn, believe whathever you want, it would be easier to make a mule walk backwards.

>>9037567
>I'm now in the middle of 1cc'ing hard modes
You realize you just blatantly gave yourself away there with your use of "1cc"

>>9037563
That's my first post about it actually. It's a shame that it's taking a normal/hard player to explain to the lunatic players such as yourselves what 1cc'ing a game actually means.
Step up.

>>9037579
What..? Are you trying to say you can't 1cc from normal up?
0/10.

>>9037563
could you lodge yourself any further up his anus

>>9037619
I could, you want me to bro?

I've decided that if I clear using only one continue, it's a 1cc, because it stands for one continue clear.

Get on my level.

I'm not a lunatic player (hell, I'm barely a normal player) and I believe that it's not a true 1cc unless you're using the default lives.

Increasing that number is like playing it on a lower framerate. Sure, you may clear it, but it wasn't a "true" clear.

Plus that option isn't in the games past number 9, so that really fortifies my belief.

>>9037544
No.
I know players from normal to lunatic who all generally accept that a 1cc comes only with beating the game with default settings. They're not arrogant, they just realise that the goal is set high, and to achieve it they need to put a bit more work in.
Now stop pedaling the idea that 1ccing with default lives is an elitist/arrogant idea upheld by lunatic players, because it isn't.

>>9037658
But it is, and no, you don't know any normal players who say that. No need to lie on an anon imageboard.
It's called a 1 continue clear, not a "1 continue default lives clear".
Everyone who's arguing against this has literally no argument other than "lol it's generally agreed that a 1cc is done with default lives! xD", when infact, it isn't. This is the first place I've heard such shit being spouted.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21287

I can't believe I finally did it! After trying for 7 months, I finally managed to get this run. I wasn't really in the mood to play when I just started playing, but I still somehow managed to do it. I do wish that I started taking this run more seriously earlier. The feeling I got while playing Byakuren was something I have never felt before, and when I saw her explore, I broke into tears - something that I haven't done in a long time. Something about that hit in Byakuren's first card triggered something in me that made me unstoppable, and it was an amazing feeling. I don't think that I have ever had quite this rush of adrenaline in my entire Touhou career.

Now that I have finally gotten this run, I feel like a huge weight has been lifted from me. However, I still intend to keep playing this game and trying to beat more challenges. I feel like I have reached a new level in dodging, but I'm not quite where I want to be yet. I still intend to perfect this game someday.

I would also like to thank the people that have helped me along the way. You know who you are, even if you don't believe it.

>>9037655
Your belief wrong then. SA and UFO are generally considered to be the hardest of the series, so if you can 1cc them, then chances are, you can 1cc the rest no problem.
I've 1cc'd all the games on default lives now, but I never considered my original 1cc's that I did with above the default to be "not true 1cc's"
They all were.

>>9037704
Congrats, you're still a faggot though.

>>9037704
Thats great, now pacifist it.

Just kidding, congrats Riz! You definitely deserve it, I'll give it a watch to take a break.

>>9037708
Believe what you want and I will too. It's a personal thing anyway. If you were really secure about your "1cc"s, you would've dropped it long ago.

But don't act like your beliefs are some how superior to others. The fact that you're so aggressive just makes you seem insecure. Unless, of course, you're a troll. Then it's fine.

>>9037685
It's a "One Credit Clear", you play an arcade game and you start with a single credit on your first run and with the default settings. I do know normal players who believe this, thank you. You should search a bit more if this is the first time you're hearing about this.

>>9037760
My beliefs? I think you mean my facts. It's a fact that 1cc stands for 1 credit clear.
Your "belief" is just called being wrong, I'm afraid.

>>9037766
One continue, one credit. Same thing.

>>9037807
>One continue, one credit. Same thing.
Huh? You don't start the game with a continue. You always use one credit at the start of the game(the coin), but you don't use a continue in a 1cc.

>>9037704
Congratulations. You're the second western player to do it, am I correct?

>>9037819
Your point? It's still the same thing.

>>9037704
is this NBNUFO ?

Congrats...Really you did something great.

>>9037729
I can't argue with that. Thanks.
>>9037742
Challenge accepted.
>>9037836
Thanks.
>>9037839
Yes, Naut was the first western player to do, it with ReimuA. T came pretty close to doing it with ReimuA as well.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=16355
>>9037843
Yes, it's NBNUFO. Thank you very much. It only took 7 months.

>>9037849
Oh wow, after you died on one of Byakuren's initial spell cards I could feel the tension, very nice job.

>>9037704
Oh man this is the first time I've ever seen Kogasa's last spell card on lunatic, looks scary as fuck. I know there is a pattern but still looks easy to get blindsided.

need a new thread too I think. idk if the post limit is 300 or 400?

Wow you got screwed with Murasa's card where she moves and the bullets come in from angles, she kept going left making it crazy for you to dodge, no idea how you made that!......then you run straight into a bullet on the survival card haha

Your stage 5 gave me heart cancer...some of those dodges wow. You got lucky as fuck on nazrins no spell, I swear that hit you.

>>9037909
I had a few close moments right after that, but I handled the later part of Byakuren pretty well. At first it was intense, then it was just intense thought, and then it went into full panic.
>>9037919
If you practice it for a little, it's no big deal. Once you get used to playing on Lunatic, it shouldn't be that scary to you.
>>9037933
It's 300 unless something got changed. I also noticed that the thread isn't bumping in the board.
>>9037983
Yup. That was a real derp. I was quite upset over that, making me loose a perfect Murasa. I actually fail that card very rarely. I just have derp moments sometimes. The same thing happened in my last MarisaB attempt. I hate it when silly mistakes become a recurring theme. I once died 4 times in a row to stage 4 Nueball. That made me quit for a few days.
>>9038016
All day erryday. Other than that one dodge, it was actually a pretty tame Nazrin nonspell. I had a derp on Shou's first spellcard, and her second nonspell was pretty tame that time.

Can someone ctrl though my replay and tell me what I'm doing wrong on "green ufo invasion of loyalty"? I can't figure this card out and I've lost 2-3 lives each time I've gotten here.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21288

>>9038037
Stay on the most right far gap and shoot, you will eventuallyclear the spellcard, and it's the easiest spot.

>>9038037
I'd help you but I've never made it past green ufos on my Nue run yet :/

>>9038037
You are staying too low and not streaming it properly. It also take a little timing to be on the proper elevation when the yellow lasers arrive. I usually prefer to be streaming down when they do so that I can avoid the green strings better. It's a little hard to explain, so I'll show you a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baFhU5cwoMQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=449s
It is a little bit on the harder side of Nue's cards, so don't worry if you fail it, just don't let it destroy you. As long as you follow that technique, you should be fine. Just wait until Undefined Darkness.

>>9038090
I've gotten to "Rainbow UFO Invasion of Terror" and didn't find undefined darkness -that- bad. I'm really worried for when I get to "Nightmare of Heiankyou"

>>9038037
>>9038090
Also, since you are using MarisaA, you can try to take out one of the green UFO's and prevent it from summoning a laser, making the dodging a little easier. This will make killing Nue a little slower, but it should make the spellcard a little easier. Also, I think that the stage portion of your run could have been a little better. You should have a little more resources upon entering Nue.
>>9038102
Terror is pretty easy with MarisaA as long as you kill the UFO's properly. Also, I find Nightmare of Heiankyou to be one of the easiest survival cards for the Extra bosses. The only hard part should be the last second, and even that can become simple with practice. Her survival card is a little on the hard side, but you should be find there as well as long as you have resources.

This is a good replay for you, but I'm not sure if it does that trick I told you about: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=13071

>>9038127
Yeah my stage was atrocious, I'm just trying to get practice down on those spellcards and generally going with anything where i don't die immediately. Will watch the replay after a few more runs, going to snooze soon.

I can't belive I did it.
It may not be a NBNUFO, it sure as fuck wasn't pretty, but I beat a game on lunatic.

To the whole "What is a true 1CC?" discussion, in my opinion if you state that you achieved a 1cc but didnt mention any other options, then it's normally considered that you did it with default lives. If you do it without default options, then it should be mentioned so.

>>9038944
YEAH WELL YOU'RE JUST MAKING ELITIST ASSUMPTIONS. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT USING DEFAULT SETTINGS IN THE DEFINITION OF A 1CC. 1CC MEANS ONE CREDIT CLEAR. 67% SLOWDOWN? 1CC. MARISABUGGED? 1CC. THEY'RE PART OF THE GAME AND THE GAME GAVE ME THE GOOD ENDING. GOSH WHY WON'T YOU ASSHOLES ACCEPT MY SHITTY SURVIVAL RUNS OF SOME OF THE FUCKING EASIEST POPULAR SHOOTING GAMES.

>>9039002
Nice strawman. Looks like it's falling apart, though.

>>9032205

>>9039002
Oh hehaha very funny just get out now.

Today I'm gonna start work on defeating Suwako. I've managed to get to her survival card at best, survival cards are very difficult if you ask me. But I will defeat her so I can improve.

>>9037704
Congrats, Riz! God, what a determined man you are! You have my respect.

I got tired of playing touhou after several months. Done some normal, couple of hard... And then I just got tired. Shit became to exhausting. Not fun at all.

>>9037766
> default settings
> arcades
That means "hard" difficulty by the way. Did you know it?
So any "normal" clears are not 1cc's too.

>>9040496
>That means "hard" difficulty by the way
How can it be hard difficulty if arcade STGs have no difficulty setting?
Stop making up shit.

>>9040563
>have no difficulty setting
Because hard is the only (default) option.

>Stop making up shit.
Whoa, calm down. I ain't even started to make anything up yet. This is my first post in current discussion.

>>9040496
They're all 1ccs.

1cc on Normal? Normal 1cc.
1cc on Hard? Hard 1cc.
1cc without default lives? Assisted 1cc.

When someone just says "1cc", most people will assume it to be a Normal 1cc since those are the default settings when opening the game. No use in getting upset when people make assumptions about your run just because you weren't specific.

Why hasn't this thread purged yet.