/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I've been saying this for years, but the janitor needs to stop clearing out 5-10 pages of /jp/ and such. All it does is invite more spam (because now they want to refill the lost pages) and make you look as e-autistic as the spammers you're trying to fight against.

no. I remember when they changed ip immediately after posting something stupid though.

>>8979428
I bet you'd do a better job, ZUN!bar!

And is it just me, or is there something off about your post? Like it's not word wrapped enough or something.

>>8979430
Who gives a shit. It works on the majority of posters because most American ISPs use MER, and spoofing your MAC address is awkward (I don't care if you can do it in a leet two-second way, most people can't).

Still better than just deleting posts. If anything, that encourages shitposting and discourages users dealing with trolls properly (i.e. ignoring them instead of crying out "MEIDO!" when something they like isn't deleted).

I'm pretty sure janitors can't ban. They have to tell a mod on IRC to come ban and we all know mods are lazy as shit.

>>8979444

Well done. That was kind of assumed knowledge for this thread (and for anyone who has been here more than a week).

>>8979428
I've been saying this for years, but moot needs to stop hiring janitors, add the ability to have local mods, and make janitors local mods instead.

>>8979449
You're welcome :3

>>8979445
if you ignore them they'll just flood more.

>>8979454
People post because they have an audience. I don't think they'd stop if we all ignored them, but they'd settle down a bit. I draw penises on my notepad for fun. I don't show them to anybody, but I get a kick out of doing it. If other people saw them and gave me the reaction I wanted, I'd certainly do it more often.

>>8979450
Yes and leave all the fun outside because people will be too scared to post.
And bans are worthless 99% of the time.

Never got caught in a threadban with a static ip? Then you know shit about /jp/

>>8979474
Post pic

>>8979479
Good for them then. They can lurk, and only post high quality comments in on-topic threads. I'm not saying we should have SA-like Nazi mods, but this really is one of those cases where "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" usually works.

The exception are stupid threadbans like when that guitarist died, but those are few and far between.

Remember when bans did matter shit?

Range banning all Finnish IPs would solve most of our problems. Just saying.

Replying to trolls really needs to become a bannable offense like it is on 2channel/Futaba. Not only are you feeding a troll, you are encouraging future trolls by saying, "Hello I am an idiot and I will respond."

>>8979454
/jp/ doesn't need deletion, /jp/ doesn't even need that much moderation. It's a slow as fuck board. What does removing 5 pages accomplish? Absolutely nothing.

All the (new) janitor has to do is delete NSFW/cocks/blogs/socs threads, in other words, blatant off topic content. Who cares about which 2hu would you fuck, or other textless threads? Nobody gives a shit. People know how to ignore shit they don't like, but you can't "unignore" 5 pages deleted by the neo spergcommander.

I feel somewhat uncomfortable about giving someone from /jp/ a higher position of power. Especially when he or she has some constant idea in their head on what they think would make a better /jp/ and choose willingly to enforce that idea against the opinion and respect of the community.

The new janitors are great and I don't want to see them go.

cry more, shitposting is the only good thing about this forum!

>>8979495
And all the activity would grind to *<10%

>>8979491
I never understood why. It's not like the Internet Protocol massively changed (yet).

I actually liked it when mods would ban people for shits and giggles. Like when Snacks banned everyone who saged his threads, or when everyone in /5/ and /fur/ was banned, or when moot would ban countries at a time for no real reason.

Now people would cry on the ghost boards about how they were mistreated because they're human beings who have a right to post ;___;

>>8979502
>2hu would you fuck
But I do care. And they are not textless threads.

janitor needs to be less strict and actually look at posts before deleting them like offtopic ones
also i know he hates me but i am on topic alot of the time yet still get deleted
having someone who hates cerrtain posters is a bad janitor..
i think we need to get rid of ppl who cry for a janitor who just need to hide threads they dont like...

we used to self moderate alot but i guess those days are never coming bac K:(

So what you are saying is we should ban everyone for every little thing? The sad thing is that you actually probably believe in forcing quality discussion on /jp/ rather than enforcing rules that actually make sense.

People DO get banned for replying to shitposters though so stop acting like their is no crime to be paid for feeding shitposters.

>>8979506
Because the site runs on user created content. Moot is lucky I grace his site with my posts.

>>8979507
Nobody cares as in, nobody will start PMSing after seeing a which 2hu fuck thread. Nobody, except the neo janitor. Normal people will just ignore those threads.

>>8979514
Yeah, unfortunately, it won't come back. And you know, as much as all of you think that shitposting shouldn't be deleted, it is still against the rules to post off-topic or very bad quality threads. Janitors are supposed to follow the rules, not to control them (mods can do that).

The limits should be adjusted. You don't need to post every 30 seconds, and I know some people do. And you should be able to make two threads per day, tops. Those threads getting deleted shouldn't reset your limit.

Also the age/sage limits are backwards. It would make more sense for sage to be every 30 seconds (or 2 minutes or something for /jp/) and age to be every 60 seconds (or 4 minutes or something).

>>8979502
I strongly disagree with that. 2011 was horrible, we had no janitors, and sincerely, all of the previous years were way better than the horror that was 2011, because we did have a janitor (except on 2008).

>>8979514
1) Don't post with an avatar.
2) Read global rule 3. Post in proper English. You don't have to be perfect, but drop your 14-year-old girl gimmick.

>>8979517
>So what you are saying is we should ban everyone for every little thing?
We struck a good balance in I think 2010 when some mod would local ban people with the reason "Shitposting" or "NSFW" all the time. It was kind of annoying how he'd delete all their posts, though.

>>8979534

They still ban people all the time on /jp/ for shitposting and NSFW content. But hey, you don't see a public ban all the time so it must not be true!

>>8979514
Seriously, is it really so hard to ban the tripcode this particular idiot uses? Heck, even if he changes it, moot could just appoint a mod that bans shitposting individuals every time they post. It's not like it's particularly hard to recognize them.

4chan has always been terrorized by a handful of people who think ruining everyone's fun is their right.

>>8979542

It doesn't bother me since there really isn't anything much better coming from the people not using tripcodes either.

>>8979528
I'm talking about right now. And right now, we don't need a janitor who leaves the board at 10 pages.

>>8979541
But it never happens to me. It used to all the time. Something somewhere has gone wrong.

Was A-san "our" mod? I know he was one of the only staff members to actually *like* /jp/.

>>8979526
1) No one cares about your rules, armchair admin-kun.

And that applies to everyone I guess.

>>8979548

And your opinion doesn't carry any weight here or with the staff. So really you should just shut up.

>>8979544
Except everyone on /jp/ who really cares about this board does. I guess you got shot in the head in Iraq or something because you used to be a great poster.

>>8979428
congrats on the marriage

Remember when we used to post animu screencaps? I miss that.

>>8979544
> 1) No one cares about your rules, armchair admin-kun.

But the rules are there for a reason, ZUN!bar!

And the avatar thing is generally strictly enforced whenever a moderator comes across it.

>>8979542
It'd still be a lot better if people didn't feel the need to respond to every post that shitposters make. That's exactly why /vp/ is a hellhole for reasons other than porn.

>>8979544
The janitor and the mods care.

>>8979552
Because you think your opinion carries anything?

It's a meta thread you fucking aspie. Giving opinions is what it is for.

>>8979554
That's really mean anon-san.
You shouldn't say rude things like that.

>>8979526
>drop your 14-year-old girl gimmick.
No

>>8979554
>because you used to be a great poster.
You can't beat Anynomous in terms of greatness.

Ah, good old meta.
The issue with not deleting the full 5 pages worth of shitposting is that every thread you leave will get inevitably a butthurt necrobump from some kid that is trying to point out how moderation is unfair and they get singled out.
Why is this thread deleted while leaving this 2hu fuk thread? Why does a thread get a free pass for having a touhou image? Why was this blog thread deleted when it's just NEET/depression discussion, just like the other 8 threads over the board.

The point is that it's understandable to see a full wipe when you're trying to keep an image of consistency. That it encourages spammers too is a known truth. Just by being active janitors are escalating a spam war with the kids while leaving us in the cross fire.

Having a dedicated native mod could help things a bit, but not that much. It's obvious that the handful of shitposters currently active are ban evading all the time and there's little the current tools can do to help. But it would be a better action than useless deletions.

Anyway, same as always. Nothing has really changed since I left except for the spam flavor.

>>8979542
> Seriously, is it really so hard to ban the tripcode this particular idiot uses?

I don't see why this so rarely happens. I mean, there's a system in place already. Why not use it? Can only admins use it? Is there a lengthy process where mods have to apply for a tripcode ban or something?

The mods generally take it easy in IRC, so I doubt they're swamped with requests. It would be nice to take things a little more seriously. For example, the janitor could have went on /j/ or whatever and said, "Hey, this guy is spamming Nocturnes. Can you autoban this phrase?" Seems like a worthy enough reason, so the mods/moot ban it. Spam diminishes, janitor keeps warning about new workarounds.

>>8979542
>>4chan has always been terrorized by a handful of people who think ruining everyone's fun is their right.

How much of a sensitive pansy can you be? She just posts milky holmes pictures. We like that series anyways.

I swear, sometimes you guys complain about the dumbest things.

>>8979542
like how am i ruining anyones fun by posting?
ive never started a thread
ive never posted in figure or touhou threads unless its on topic

look in the archive and you will see mos tof my posts are on topic towards the thread

i dont want to ruin anyones fun
i think jp used to be fun when we were able to have some off topic threads and some on topic ones and could do whatever we wanted with them

i dont consider myself a sh!tposter either.. maybe you guys do and thats fine.. just ignore my posts..

>>8979569
>The point is that it's understandable to see a full wipe when you're trying to keep an image of consistency
But that's not what he's doing at all. Leaving bird threads and chain deleting cats is not what I call consitent.
Same with keeping Tera, but deleting Vindictus.
And there's much more about this "consitency" of his.

>>8979575
>We
Who we? You and your bunkbuddies?

>>8979569

Prove it's you. You're always making posts in support/defence of some argument. Put a message on your blog, like you said you would months ago (but didn't).

>>8979554
Why do people parrot this? Maybe it's because I left for a couple of years, but ZUN!bar was never good. He was your typical /v/irgin manchild who--under any other circumstances--would be called out as being an idiot and told to lurk more. Imagine an Anonymous poster said the sort of things he does, about how shitposting is a myth and the rules don't matter and we should discuss anime and video games.

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&search_tripcode=!barYV1VtIA&search_ord=old
Read through a few years' worth of posts. ZUN!bar was _never_ a good poster.

>>8979569
one of the problems with this new janitor is that hes been deleting my posts even when they are on board topic

http://i.imgur.com/SHQfh.png

http://i.imgur.com/qzabF.png

he does it for other posters too

its okay to occasionally wipe the board but there are some people here who want to be babysat all the time because they have some brain problem that means they cant ignore threads they dont like

even IF the janitor succeeded in getting rid of all "off topic" threads (whatever that means.. i think this board is otaku culture.. whatever can be considered otaku culture should be fine to stay and thats BROAD) people would complain about idol threads.. then tea threads.. then touhou image dump threads forever.. there is a LOUD MINORITY ofe posters who just cannot ignore threads that they dont like and the admin team needs to ignore them because they are crazy

>>8979575
We've been over this.
By allowing one gimmick poster that contributes nothing, you breed an environment where such behavior is accepted and it slowly becomes the norm. It's what happened over 2011, with little moderation it allowed shitposting to dominate the board. We're still recovering from it, but such behavior is supposed to be an exception.

>>8979582
Are you seriously defending Tokiko/Moetron spam? Either way, I'd be happier if they deleted JBCS too. I did say they TRY for consistency but they fail most of the time. It's tough to have a good sense of policies for such a bizarre board after all.

>>8979585
I did, and then deleted it. Do I really have to? It's not like the doppelgangers ever invest time to write this much and it's consistent with what I've always said.

>>8979575
If there's one timeless rule we can all largely agree on, it's that anime goes in /a/. I might love the series, just as I love vintage cars. But even you would tell me to go to /o/ if I started a vintage cars thread.

>>8979575
You know, I fucking loved CYOA threads back then. I really liked participating in them, and you probably liked them too. But you know, they were kicked off the board for a reason, and that was : roleplaying. You liking it or not, posting pictures of milky homes, in a way that it adopts a pattern that is associated with your tripcode, is against the rules, because it is indirectly related to roleplaying. Look, Zunbar, I don't hate her, I think I've said this yesterday, but if she ends up getting banned, we won't be able to complain. This is a rule that is applied on every single board of 4chan, except /b/.

The janitors are doing a great job.

>>8979597
>ZUN!bar was _never_ a good poster.
Breaking news, tripscum are... scum.

>>8979600
>Are you seriously defending Tokiko/Moetron spam? Either way, I'd be happier if they deleted JBCS too. I did say they TRY for consistency but they fail most of the time. It's tough to have a good sense of policies for such a bizarre board after all.
Nobody cares about Tokiko's threads (I'm talking about threads, not avatar fagged replies). It's a slow board, you don't need removing 5 pages every evening.
Nothing is gained from this.

>>8979600
> I did, and then deleted it.

I checked at the time. I saw no such thing.

Do it again. Maybe post a comment saying, "If I ever need to confirm my identity, !!hash is the secure tripcode I will use." This would actually be useful to me (and presumably to other people), and it's kind of why tripcodes exist in the first place.

>>8979608
what about anime based on vns? its a fine line,, if we can discuss games based on vns why not animes?

>>8979609
i am not sheryl
i am not an anime character
im not roleplaying im just trying to post
im sorry

>>8979615

So what does not deleting shitposters threads accomplish? It just tells them that they can get away with it.

>>8979604
no there not

There is no rule banning roleplaying or avatars. Everyone who whines about it is just butthurt because they perceive it as a refusal to conform.

>>8979601
>been deleting my posts
Me, me, me, I, my, myself, I, me.
Do you think anybody gives a shit about you and your retarded gimmick?
Why are tripcode users so subhuman?

>>8979618
lol you used the wrong kind of "there/their". fukkin nerd

>>8979601

Breaking news: if you choose to use an identity on an anonymous board, you are accountable for your actions.

This is why you remain anonymous. Then it is what you say that is important, not who you are. I can never understand why this doesn't appeal to people, or why they choose to use tripcodes as a type of opt-in identity. Honestly, why not go to Something Awful or Reddit or a smaller phpBB forum? Not only will your identity matter, but you can earn real admiration and become a respected poster.

>>8979601
Huh. Just a theory since it's what I did back then, but are you or have you ever ban evaded?
That kind of singling out goes on when a janitor knows that a tripcode is ban evading. They just delete anything and everything since they're covered by the rules. Just like complaining about moderation gives grounds to swiftly delete anything.
By the way, that's why if you ever feel like reposting your thread because it was unfairly deleted, NEVER complain about the janitor in the OP. It's just asking for it.

>>8979616
Fine. Give me a bit.

This is a fucking horrible thread and a perfect example why I am glad none of the staff will ever take /jp/'s ideas or opinions into even remote consideration.

/jp/ must be a real pain in the ass for moot, mods, and janitors. I don't have much experience with other boards but I'd be willing to bet that /jp/ is the only one that requires so much attention despite it being a relatively small board.

>>8979621
Because "shitposting" is a buzzword. According to some, which2hu threads are shitposts. According to some "japanese cats" are shitposts, but not "japanese birds". According to some, textless threads are shitposts too.

The only thing the new janitor needs to delete is COCKS and BLOGS. It's easy. NSFW and blatant off-topic circlejerking.

>>8979624
im no one other than me so i cant comment but i know that sudo king of jp moetron and others have been harassed but i have no proof of this yet (but people have seen it) so ididnt mention it

its pretty clear the new janitor has a vendetta against tripfriends (like most posters from /v/)

>>8979633
It's actually "they're".

>>8979640
Nobody. Gives. A Shit. About you, or other cancerous subhuman cunts.

>>8979637

Of course it does because the shitposters in threads like this try to scare them away. Thankfully moot has wisen up and won't be doing it and the janitors are permanent.

wtH kept coming back whenever he was banned remember? HELL, any shitposter can just reset their modems.

>>8979526
1) Please don't bully Fukune
2) suck my cock

>>8979645
ur mom is actually "they're" on my dick llol

>>8979636
ive never started any threads
ive actually never ban evaded
a while ago i was permabanned (for ban evading) but i successfully appealed since i have never been banned before.. a week later i was permabanned again.. the appeal failed so i went on irc to appeal it and was unbanned
lately i have gotten some 2 day and a 3 day bans but waited them out patiently

its possible the janitor runs a script to delete my posts
or just doesnt know that my bans were all unjustified

>>8979626
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/360493/

http://www.4chan.org/rules#global
> 15. Remember: The use of 4chan is a privilege, not a right. The 4chan staff reserves the right to revoke access and remove content without notice.

The mods have decided countless times using an avatar earns you a ban. If you want an avatar, go to Gaia.

>>8979616

Don't most shitposters just reset their IPs/use proxies upon ban anyway? Isn't this a moot point?

welp i am leaving /jp/ for good. this thread has convinced me finally that the only people left on /jp/ these days are whiny little cunts who think they deserve whatever they want

i seriously hope moot does split up /jp/ at this point since this board is nothing but a fucking wasteland of shitposters now complaining about other shitposters

>>8979657
That's because you are Tokiko (just kidding, you aren't THAT retarded) or some other shitposter who adopted a new name.

>>8979663
That's what I was saying, one shitposter even had their modem page as their homepage for easy resetting!

>>8979597
>>Maybe it's because I left for a couple of years

Opinion disregarded right there then. Also all my posts are on topic. You just don't care about the context. Like how the first thing linked there is a picture of Macross in a thread about Macross.

I probably insulted you 5 years ago and you still remember it to this day or something.

>>8979666
Aw come on, no need to be that negative. We've always had such arguments since 2009 because nobody can settle on what the moderation should be like.

>>8979654
>The mods have decided countless times using an avatar earns you a ban.

shit like KoJP needs to be banned permanently

>>8979656
You got called out on your faggotry. Get over it.

>>8979674
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/7972470#p7972712

>>8979640
i cant be bothered to take sides on this, but i just have to say that this is a really stupid argument

"janitor dislikes x, y and z which happen to be low quality tripcode users therefore he dislikes all tripcode users"

>>8979670
I don't know how other ISPs work but the one I use only appoints 5 IPs to a single user. If you ban all of them, game's over.

>>8979678

It was never this bad though and back then /jp/ still had promise and was great.

>>8979677
Everybody knows you are an anime screencaps shitposting tripscum. It's like saying, I'm not a shitposter, I'm just being on-topic in a shitposting thread.

>>8979640
Sudo is 70% anime screencap shitposting, 30% good poster.
Moe!TRON is a ban evading spammer and avatarfag.
King of /jp/ is a ban evading avatarfag.

I really don't see your point.

>>8979687
/jp/ was created in 2008. 4chan has been hating itself since, what, 2005? Wasn't the first (of far too many) "old /b/"s in 2005 or 2006?

4chan is meta and whiny now. Deal with it.

Hiragana CAPTCHA would solve everything.

All of you care too much.

>>8979692

I think you should take comfort in the fact and accept that you will never be half the good poster that Zunbar is in your life.

>>8979695

i don't have to deal with it. I post on other textboards and imageboards now these days. i have nothing to lose with /jp/ getting deleted or split up

>>8979678
AoC are you really the janitor, it's ok you can trust me. I won't tell /jp/.

>>8979677

Anime is off-topic for /jp/ (I'll grant a few exceptions, like VN anime adaptations). This has been the case since it was created (this is *why* it was created). Yet you frequently discuss this season's shonen anime that has no relation to /jp/. You or Sion or whoever liking a show does not mean /jp/ likes that show, or that it becomes on-topic material. I know that you know this, I just don't understand why you are being so obtuse about it.

>>8979688

>>8979709

shhhhh go to sleep.

>>8979705
/jp/ is our life. Perhaps it is you who cares too little.

posting anime. what are you going to do about it?

>>8979684
a good old classic

on a sidenot
>>8979684
this was actually I think the last time I got banned.
I am pretty much fine with the new janitor , cant complain about him, here and there he deleted my images if I post them outside of idol threads I am fine with that, sometimes he even leaves them.

On a sidenot, I am close to 300 wins in Dota 2 , cheer for me /jp/ we can do it.

you faggots sure like the whine about meaningless stuff.

>>8979709
>why you are being so obtuse about it.
It's his "gimmick".

>>8979687
I'm pretty certain meta got to worse levels towards the tail end of 2010.
We always do this, it never stops. The particular grivances change over the years but the gist is always the same: Why aren't/are bad/good things getting deleted?

>>8979706
No, I'm not. If I was I wouldn't be able to say this:

I am currently the janitor

Although it opens up a possible ban for impersonating staff, but I think current team knows what I'm doing anyway.
You guys always think I'm back whenever a janitor steps in or gets overactive. Might as well accept that I can't return after burning that bridge so thoroughly

>>8979713
qed

Why does moot never get involved in these things any more? He said he wanted to go back to being more active with the regular joes, so why isn't he?

He should do that PMQs thing, but on a per-board basis. Maybe dedicate an hour or two each night to each board, then work his way through them all. It would be a nice gesture.

>>8979719
Did you ever dress as a cute maid when you were the janitor?

>>8979410
But OP, shitposting is the /jp/ culture.
If werent by that, we would just be /a/ 2.0

>>8979716
>this was actually I think the last time I got banned.

No, you've been banned since.
I reported you in IRC.

>>8979740
>>8979735
>>8979720
posting just anime screen caps alone isn't ganna annoy anyone, you need a trip or at least use some xD's

>>8979717
Meta threads are fun. Most of the replies here are ironic. Probably.

It's a sad day when the janitors cater to angry and sad tryhard posters who call other people subhumans, niggers, and the like, instead of the posters who actually know how to take it easy.

Hope you're getting a lot of weeaboo girls at your local cons with this e-elitism, AoC.

>>8979749
>e-elitism
Sup Zunbar. Why so humble?

>>8979749
Cater to those who take it easy? Why would you do that? They're fine with it and don't want to be catered to.

>>8979719
So you're not a vindictive Kogasa hating asshole? I'm sorry I misjudged you, I won't astroturf you being the janitor anymore.

If you are going to offer criticism then make sure it's actually needed and good criticism.

>>8979749
:( yeah... they are bullies.. thye just need to take it easy and accept threads they dont like
i think if you use 4chan plus you can hide threads
just do that guys
its like being a janitor yourself

>>8979749

"Take it easy" becomes a platitude when you use it to justify shitposting. People getting sick of "wch 2hu fk" or avatarfags or whatever isn't them "not taking it easy", it's normal behavior. You can look at any community dating back to Usenet (or even real world communities) and there are rules and customs and guidelines for this reason.

Nobody is arguing that we have to be super strict and ban everyone or whatever, we're arguing that the people who are unquestionably rule-breaking and making /jp/ a worse place should be stopped.

>>8979720
I always thought that leaving some anime would be fine. There's been decent discussions over old series or what anime are you catching in a season. The issue was never that it was anime, but that it was spammed. Textless screencaps everywhere, no discussion, no good reason to leave them. Then again policies have changed too much.
I still can't forgive that they're deleting/banning for NSFW with a spoiler tag now.

>>8979749
All the ladies want to get with the meido, and you know it. Jokes aside, taking it easy has been the board motto forever, but there are limits. I personally draw the line at the point where people have their fun at the expense of others and the rest of the board.

>>8979723
Nope, I'm never one for cosplay. I did wear a tie most of the time though if that helps...

At least the shitposters contribute something funny from time to time. Boring meta threads like this are LITERALLY useless.

Nigga kill yoself.

>>8979757
> i think if you use 4chan plus you can hide threads
> just do that guys
> its like being a janitor yourself

I was tempted to write an extension that allows "community" pseudo-deletion, but I thought it might be dumb and like thread voting or never used (and I think someone made something similar already).

Some level-headed people could start an IRC group where they mass report rule breaking. Lay down some guidelines that it doesn't apply to grey area stuff, only things like NSFW content, spamming, ban evaders, etc. A bot could announce rule breaking posts, then everyone in the channel reports them both on 4chan and to mods in IRC. Sadly, people *don't* use the report system as often as they should; a lot of people I've spoken to leave it to other people.
The downside to this idea is that level-headed people aren't this autistic.

>>8979715
It doesn't make any difference in your life. The board doesn't move fast enough for it to matter.

>>8979770
Right, because that chair when japanese kneading bread is so goddamn hilarious.

The only ones that find it funny are the spammers themselves.

>>8979749
its not about e-elitism
Ofc idiots like Tokiko will complain the most
Its just there is a big part of /jp/ that doesn't likes the behave of /v/,/b/ or /a/
pointless greentexting, U MAD BRAH,my opinion >your opinion,spoonfeeding,dubs...

Anyway you should take it easy m8.Like in the real world you will always meet idiots,you can ignore them or try to fight them its up to you.

The last time a public ban happened /jp/ could not contain their autism. This is why they should be rare.

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S8933948

>>8979773
Nice SA emoticon, Archduke.

>>8979774
You are literally insane.

>>8979709
>>Anime is off-topic for /jp/ (I'll grant a few exceptions, like VN anime adaptations).

You're saying that a topic that /jp/ has been regularly talking about since 2008 isn't /jp/-related. Let that sink in for a bit.

Anon, I think you're just too whiny and e-autismic now. Read >>8979666 because that anon is talking about you.

Also I'm getting tired of people who "left /jp/ for years" somehow thinking that they know more about /jp/ than someone who has been here all this time.

>where people have their fun at the expense of others and the rest of the board.
i agree.. i think spamming and stuff is bad and ruins stuff

if i could give onemessage to the janitor it would be this
dont delete bad posts in a bad thread delete the whole thread
i dont post in good threads or if i do it will be on topic
dont delete my posts in a thread about wanting to pee in bottles because the whole thread is stupid.. my posts arent hurting it

>>8979774
As much as community efforts sound interesting, guaranteed you'll get the current group of spammers messing it up.

>>8979778
You should stop postin, bro.

>>8979770
I agree, especially when they accidentally make a fool of themselves.

>>8979779

You must be really butthurt by his shitposting if you associate Something Awful with Tokiko/Archduke now.

>>8979760
/jp/ (specially post 2009) is full of sad, angry tryhard posters. They will hate on anything. That can't the standard for the board. It's easy to pick on the more shitty threads, but in a day when those are gone, are we going to trust that kind of person to draw the line?

>>8979754
Not ZUN.

>>8979778

Why don't you just type in proper English? I have the feeling you've gotten too into this and can't stop, like Moe!TRON apparently did.

>>8979774
You can't be serious?

>>8979778
Wasn't something like that attempted with 4watch?

>>8979791
Nah, I assumed it from the link and because it's the kind of thing he would do.

I have actually posted SA emoticons a couple of times in the past few weeks. That's how I recognized it.

>>8979774
theres already a plugin that lets you see which posts have been reported i think

>>8979774
so we can have upvotes and downvotes?

>Sudo !Tohsaka8ks

>ZUN !barYV1VtIA

>>8979777
You just pointed out two of literally thousands of jokes.

If anything the Japanese bird threads consolidate the shitposting at night when it really gets crazy.

Myself, I look at stuff like that as a little lighthearted relief from a life that for the most part is kinda bleak. It's not laugh out loud funny, but it's not offensive to me.

It's funny because there are only 2 good tripcode posters on /jp/ and neither of them are in this thread. Milky Holmes avatarfagging isn't offensive.

I can't believe there are still people who haven't filtered zun!bar. Seriously, what do you even get out of reading his comments? Do you actually care about quasi circlejerk /jp/ celebrities? Same with Sudo.

How to make 4chan better:

Mods/janitors not being normalfags.

>>8979782
> You're saying that a topic that /jp/ has been regularly talking about since 2008 isn't /jp/-related. Let that sink in for a bit.

One of the first threads was a Naruto thread. We also discussed Jews, circumcision, misogyny, and a whole bunch of unrelated fringe topics on a regular basis. Let that sink in for a bit.

> Also I'm getting tired of people who "left /jp/ for years" somehow thinking that they know more about /jp/ than someone who has been here all this time.

I mentioned that simply because I remember you as you were years ago. You're one of the people who stood out to me.

Is there any good that comes from these sorts of threads? They let the spammers know they're pissing people off, they discuss the same points over and over again, they easily slip in to flame-fits, and are just a general eye-sore.

I know its easy to think they're good to let off steam, but its folly to think that it is in any way reducing the spam around here.

>>8979818
>Is there any good that comes from these sorts of threads?

no lol

>>8979777
You suffer from depression. You can't possibly think your judgement is more accurate than people who don't. Obviously, your example is pretty idiotic, but I'm sure you won't find most posts funny just because of your personal problems.

>>8979786
Someone edit the last number 4 wtH is quoting to number 5. xD

>>8979813
My problem with zun!bar is that he often necrobumps off-topic or stupid threads. I know I could use the Catalog or whatever, but I'm too attached to browsing by pages like a Web 1.0 plebeian. I don't think I'm the one in the wrong here.

>>8979813
I don't filter replies, I just ignore every tripusing scum ``manually''.

We need CurryButt back again. There are a lot of nerds here who haven't never experienced what true shitposting is and need their ass kicked.

>>8979823
Yes, tack mental problems on him because you obviously don't have any, good argument you have there.

remember when we used to take it easy? you will never get rid of shitposters. so relax...

>>8979830

I think your problem with him is that you will never be as good as a poster as him :)

>>8979831
You would normally leave your mental problems outside when janitoring.

>>8979810
>>8979813

>>8979827
Glad I'm not the only one.

And I actually do it, too. Feels pretty satisfying, actually.

A good mental trick I learned is to go a week without posting every once in a while. Just set aside a week where you do nothing but lurk. No matter how much you want to help someone, no matter how much Joe!TRiPfaG is wrong about something, no matter how much you want to argue, just do not post. You see image boards in a new light from the eyes of a full-time lurker.

>>8979826
The good old days.

>>8979837
go away fukune

Can we have forced anon? Tha'd be nice.

>>8979837
You already made this joke.

>>8979839

>>8979847
You mean when you were too young to be using the internet and found a secret club called Gaia?

>>8979830
As if the catalog was something new and not just a copy of the futaba style catalog view.

In before >I haet javascropt

>>8979843

And you must be really pissy about it since you had to acknowledge it.

If /jp/ gets split, I hope it's like this:
/vn/ - All visual novels and associated media. OELVN discussion can also migrate here from /v/.
/2h/ - Touhou faggotry/General
/fi/ - Figures and Idols and onaholes.

Self-pitying threads in /adv/.

>>8979849
I've actually read this thread from the begining. Pretty impressive, huh?

>>8979850
Yeah :)

>>8979849
Not him (honest!) but why do people always assume this?

You pointed something out, therefore you are upset.

Am I upset for posting this? From my point of view I'm not.

How to save /jp/:
If you make a post on /a/ or /v/, you get a cookie set that prevents you from posting on /jp/.
You have to have cookies on to browse 4chan at all.

Or the same but it makes your ip unable to post on /jp/ until you change it or 24 hours have passed

>>8979828
He was here a couple nights ago.

Call out to him and he will come.

>>8979851
Futaba? That website that stole image replies from 4chan?

>>8979856

This. /jp/ needs to be split up and I think the board has finally run it's course now. It's way too shitty to deal with as it is now.

>>8979856
Not active or swamped enough to warrant splitting. /adv/ threads should go in /adv/ anyway, but I guess people think they're too good for it.

I stand by my solution of making a NEET/hikikomori thread every so often, and condensing blogging there. But nobody will do it. I did it once a week or two ago and it got hundreds of replies, but I was very anxious while it was active.

>>8979856
Where would the shitposters go?

>>8979862
I'm pretty sure moot isn't going to split a median-speed board in to even more slow boards to clutter up the list.

>>8979844

>>8979861
7/10
Smiled a bit.

>CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM

>>8979823
I don't though. The erratic behavior and utter depression haven't been an issue for a while now.
That's still pretty mean, and I don't see your point. It's not like people are amused by seeing the same forced thread every day and there's objectively no fun in a shitposter thread for an outsider to their circles. Oh, you're posting anime reaction faces back and forth. Wonderful...
I agree that we need a space for some derailed threads and off-topic, but I don't see how spam provides anything to the board.

>>8979870

>>8979864
Yeah, block the boards that actually have something to do with /jp/ content and let people from places like /sp/ and /co/ roam free.

>>8979866
/b/, where they can learn how insignificant and unskilled they really are.

>>8979862
Well, don't let the door hit ya on yo big black ass on the way out, mama!

>>8979877
>77

FUCKING EPIC

>>8979821
Jewish Naruto/stay night misogyny threads don't bother me the same way as they bother Anon. This is because I simply ignore topics that I have nothing to say about. My post history can back this up.

But I guess that's the difference between me and most anons. Anon would just sperg and whine about it (see this thread).

>>8979813
I have no problems with being filtered, but do keep in mind I have nothing do to with that "quasi circlejerk /jp/ celebrity" stuff. You guys are the ones spamming "lol gratz on teh marriage xd" and everything else. Not me.

How to make permanent bans a lot more permanent (at least on the same browser/machine):
http://samy.pl/evercookie/

There's even a very simple example code that could be adapted to set the ban cookie or whatever. It would not take much effort.

Unfortunately moot and Mr VacBob are lazy. coda or Snacks would have done it ( ._.)

>>8979869

That is a shame but you are probably right.

What's the best forum to talk about Touhou and Otaku meetups? There's no point being here any more, this board is shit.

Where's your secret club?

>>8979884

I plan on getting banned from /jp/ first. I want to go out with a bang.

>>8979875
I'd love to agree with you, but I still find that too strict.

mostly just due to the fact that its 4chan, its the population, its the reputation that attracts these sorts of people, its a number of things that make people very uncontrollable. strict moderation just doesn't work because of how easy it is to get past it.

>>8979876

>>8979894
You can't ban people "client side".

>>8979886
it amazes me how anons call us sh!tposters when say i most an on topic post in threads and then anons go and ask me stuff

http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/8959063/#q8978241

look here my posts were all deleted by the janitor too btw

this thread
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCSdLtNZbaA

>>8979900
>foolz
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／　／　　 　ヽ :: ＼
|　（●）,　、（●）、　|
|　　,,ノ(、_, )ヽ、,, 　 |
|　　　,;‐＝‐ヽ 　 .:::::|
＼　　｀ニニ´　 .:::／　　　　　　N-NO THANK YOU
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>>8979900
is your "gimmick" to be a parody?

>>8979895
If you want to stick with anonymous boards, try 4-ch or iiChan or something. But enjoy your six posts a month.

If you want something more active, go to one of the "LOOK MOM I MADE AN IMAGEBOARD!!!" 4chan knock-offs like 7chan or Tohno-chan. They're a lot more /a/-/b/ in nature, though.

>>8979877
>/sp/
The board that just wanted to make a interboard soccer competition?
>/co/
the hell is wrong with /co/?

>>8979875
You know very well it's not just the circlejerk and off-board spammers who shitpost. I'm pretty sure you would delete an Aikido thread because it's "shitposting and off-topic".

>>8979894
Falls victim to sandboxed browsers, however.

CurryButt please come back!

>>8979875
/jp/ - Internet celebrity blogging culture

>>8979911
Look at this normal. I'm a Tohno-chan level poster, and /jp/ is the kiddy pool in comparison.

>>8979915
Anonymous shitposters like this guy are the real blight.

this thread is so shitty and i love it

>>8979875
Come on, AoC. You know what spam is.

You might consider them shitposting, since that term is pretty subjective anyway, but the Japanese bird threads aren't spam.

Off-topic? Yes.
Against board rules? Perhaps.

But they're not trying to advertise or sell anything and there aren't enough of them to be considered spam.

>>8979897
How do you think HTTP cookies work? They existed before JavaScript.

>>8979919
Come back and use that seriously when aikido threads aren't just spam.

anyplace other than /jp/ is a better alternative at this point.

>>8979926
You can delete cookie, genius. Anything that is stored client side is worthless.

The only solution to fix 4chan would be to restore /b/ to Anime/Random and that's not possible.

>>8979938
Unless that thing that's stored client-side is very hard to remove.

Sure its still possible, but the more 16 year olds you stump the better.

>>8979939

moot is being a jew though and realizes that his site is more profitable being Reddit: The Image Board though. not going to happen

>>8979933
That's what /jp/ should be.

>>8979930
you crack me up man

>>8979921
Of course it's not foolproof, but it will trip up the majority of posters. Look at static IP posters who can't figure out how to ban evade, for example.

>>8979875
>I agree that we need a space for some derailed threads and off-topic
>>>/b/

>>8979939
That's what /jp/ IS.

>>8979830
>>My problem with zun!bar is that he often necrobumps off-topic or stupid threads.

"stupid threads" is the most disney complaint I've seen yet ITT. We're both even posting in one.

And 2D things aren't "off-topic" when we've been talking about them for 4-5 years now.

>>8979938
Read the page. Most users don't know how to clear their window.name cache, Flash cookies, local storage, etc. Again, this isn't a perfect solution. It would just keep a lot of ban evaders out.

Try the example yourself. Without reinstalling your browser or whatever, set and try to get rid of the evercookie.

>>8979947

nope. just a cesspool of whiny cunts bitching and occasionally talking about VN's, figs and Touhou

>>8979933
So did moot do this, or was somebody just trying to be "retro"?

>>8979949
There's a problem when the only half-decent replies you make are in meta-threads.

and it makes me laugh when you and tripfriends & co. complain about everyone hates you.

i think /jp/ would be really cool if everyone used a tripcode :)

>>8979964
A million nopes for that one, sir.

>>8979931
See? You don't know how to find it funny nor how to ignore threads you don't like. Why should the standard for deletion come from posters like you?

We will just become a board with 3 different on-topic threads, and the rest will be filled by random dumb Touhou threads.

>>8979957
hmm, sounds a lot like /jp/ to me

>>8979949
If you want to discuss this season's anime every day, go to /a/.

I'm not even complaining, this is a serious suggestion. Even if you're "fine here", you enjoy it when most of the board doesn't. Go to /a/, have a blast!

>>8979915
There's nothing wrong with foolz.

Quit being a bandwagon-riding idiot.

>>8979964
I do too.

>>8979410
JBCS is not spam now, but it sure was when I had to deal with it. Automated, constant and forced. Now that it's down to once every few days it's not that bad.

>>8979951
You see, for all the claims that I was too strict I always disagreed with letting the board be strictly about the small topic pool we have. Some of the most interesting stuff comes when discussion goes off the rails and people start posting stuff just for fun and not strictly discussion/contribution. The problem is when such off-topic dominates the board, which is what I've been trying to say. Things are good in moderation, but we don't really need "my parents are telling me to get a job, what do?"

>>8979967
>foolz
　 /＼＿＿_／＼
／　／　　 　ヽ :: ＼
|　（●）,　、（●）、　|
|　　,,ノ(、_, )ヽ、,, 　 |
|　　　,;‐＝‐ヽ 　 .:::::|
＼　　｀ニニ´　 .:::／　　　　　　N-NO THANK YOU
／｀ー‐--‐‐—´´＼
　 　　　　 .ｎ:n　　　 ｎｎ
　 　 　　nf|｜| 　　　| | |^!n
　 　 　　ｆ|.| | ∩　　∩|..| |..|
　 　 　　|: ::　 ! }　　{！ ::: ::|
　 　　　 ヽ　　,イ 　　ヽ　 :イ

>>8979966

nah we will discuss it here. feel free to keep up the past time of bitching though

>>8979967
But there's a lot wrong with Woxxy.

>>8979969
I agree with AoC on the slack on off-topic because I've seen plenty of great discussions come of even the shittiest threads.

but this is by no means any excuse to spam it.

>>8979973
There's a lot wrong with moot yet here you are.

And don't give me that no alternative crap.

>>8979967
Wait until you're banned from using the sites' tools because they didn't like the keywords you used in your search.

>>8979920
>the hell is wrong with /co/?

He's probably upset about that comic thread that was made by someone from /co/. I'm guessing he got trolled by that guy who was pretending to be the OP /co/mrade.

All you nerds just stop arguing. Aren't there any episodes of anime you can catch up on?