/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Shut up China.

Have yourself a maid and be quiet.

>>8974681
You really wish to have been born with a penis, don't you?

>>8974692

Could always just wear one.

Post-Mysticism has made me more confused at what China is.

>>8974673

>>8974681
Oh yes...

Ancient Chinese texts must be horrible to read. All these runes, no kana, no punctuation.

>>8974751
i like these eyebrows

>>8974666
>png

>>8974666
>我們快要打回大陸來了，回來了快要回來了！
>打回大陸來
Yeah, I don't think so.

Meiling pls go

>>8974852
fucking this

taiwanfags be delusional

>>8974765

What do you mean?

>>8974666
>wearing communist attire
>台灣好

>>8974935
but that's not communist attire you fucking retard.

If anything, Miyako wears something closer to commie attire (but it's still not commie)

>>8974935
>qipao with revealing legs
>commie

>star with 龍 on it in traditional chinese
>commie

>long hair
>commie (back during the cultural revolution, it was recommended for girls to have short hair that's tied up)

>wo zai quoting shei ne?

>>8974961
>herp derp i love dicks

>>8974989
my point exactly. that is a PLA uniform, with a hat and shirt. not a qipao dress with revealing legs.

>>8974989
and in case you aren't aware, prostitutes and actresses wear qipao dresses. the commies attempted to "liberate" women by banning these things.

>>8974943
>>8974961
>>8975010
>>8975018
itt the taiwanese put their ignorance on full display wwwwwww~

>>8975010
>>8975018
No, I agree that it looks commie. Trying to nitpick on it being a dress doesn't detract from the very obvious cues that her outfit was designed after the red guard uniform.

>>8975053
commies don't use gold stars, they use red stars

>>8975048
but I am a commie, fool

>>8974961
>star with 龍 on it in traditional chinese
You realize that the Communists also used Traditional Chinese before the simplification movement, right?

Jus sayin'.

>>8975092
>commies don't use gold stars, they use red stars
Really?
Debating on whether or not I should dignify that piss-poor rebuttal with a serious reply.

>>8975125
in case you didn't know, the KMT used stars in its military decorations and awards as well

so does the USA, in fact

So, why IS Hong Meiling designed to look communist chinese? Did Zun just want to diverge from the usual depictions of chinese characters?

Oh god what if communism got into Gensokyo, that would be too fucking horrible

>>8975109
the dragon is not a communist motif. it is a symbol of the imperial era, of the emperor

if anything, there should be a 八一 on the star, like with the PLA

>>8975092
1/10

>>8975092
Yeah, but China isn't actually a communist so she wouldn't have a red star. It doesn't stop her uniform from being modeled after one. I'm not sure the KMT or Imperial forces ever used a hat like that.

>>8975152
>yellow
>gold

>>8975092
>>8975134
>>8975144
Yeah, so back to the nitpicking. I didn't say she was communist, I only agreed that her outfit looked very obviously communist-inspired. I'm guessing you also argue on Reimu threads that she can't possibly be a miko because real shrine maiden outfits don't reveal their armpits or have so many frills, amirite?

>>8975161
>implying there is a distinction between yellow and gold on flags

butthurt taiwanese thread wwwwww~

>>8975188
Believe it or not, not everything Chinese is communist. Like that dress for example.

>>8975152
in military decorations you fucking sperglord

>>8975214
I have no idea why you're being so obstinate about this. Anyways, I give up trying to argue with you. Keep believing what you will. Maybe one day, like the rest of us, you too will develop an affinity for realizing the obvious.

>>8975152
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star

Red star is a commie motif, yellow star is not. Yellow stars are used on flags because commie flags are red, and you can't put red stars on red flags.

>>8975236
we're not the same person you retard. i'm the faggot using angry language and uses nokosage.

>>8975214
>blind
>in denial
>trolling
>just stupid
choose one

>>8975236
what the fuck is the obvious?

the KMT used the stalnhelm. does that make them nazis? things like this have all sorts of meanings in history and politics, it's not retarded to not be ignorant of the minute historical details.

fucking ignorants trying to justify their ignorance

Why are there so many China threads on /jp/?

>>8975248
Uhhhh okay? I frankly never really cared who I was addressing, but thanks for the heads-up, I guess.

>>8975188
>>8975236
The 1912 Beiyang Government of the Republic has a closer resemblance to Meiling than the commies, for fucks sake. Pic related.

>>8975272
Yeah, knowing minute details is great, but you're focusing on them at the expense of the bigger picture. What's obvious you ask? That hat and colour palette are a dead giveaway. (My apologies if you're colourblind.) I'd argue those two make a much stronger case than the counter-argument "that star is the wrong colour". The dragon is a generic symbol associated with China. Having it there doesn't make it anti-communist by any means, and as someone stated earlier in the thread, Communists also used Traditional characters at some point.

You're accusing other people of ignorance, but frankly, man, you're just being a fucking retard.

>>8975347
hell, even the Imperial Japanese Army uniform is closer, since they even had a yellow star.

>>8975347
lolno

>>8975278

They're not Chinese, they're Taiwanese.

>>8975369
0/10, I'm from the island of Kinmen.

>>8974961

I'm pretty certain Meiling's normal attire (as in not the one from the OP) isn't a qipao.

>>8975360
the dragon symbolises the emperor, and the phoenix symbolises the empress. the commies would never ever use a dragon in their symbology, since it idolises a monarch.

>>8975373

PROTIP: That doesn't excuse your stupidity.

>>8975384
我幹你小妹妹。你想怎樣？

>>8975369
What's the difference?

Fuck, does China have a bigger autism problem than America and Japan? This fucking thread.

我们一定要解放台湾！

We must liberate Taiwan!

>>8975406
East asians in general have a problem with autism, and since there are a fuckload of chinks...

>>8975366
Color aside, I'm pretty sure the star hat in that style is associated more with communist China than Imperial Japan or Soviet Russia.

The light green army uniform is mostly strongly associated with communist China, also, even if the Japanese did use them.

lol taiwanese monkey who got called out on his faggotry trying to hide behind moonrunes

wwwwww~

>>8975428
lol ugly mainlander pretending to be japanese wwwwwwwww

i can be nipponian as well wwwwwwww nippon strong wwwwwwwwwww i speak nipponese wwwwwwwwwwww

i never realized there were so many taiwanese/chinamen in /jp/

ITT: Overseas Chinese

關 otaku 咩事? 中國人打中國人, 俾外國人笑死

>>8975467
Guilty as charged.

>>8975383
Okay, just to make sure we're on the same page: are you trying to imply that ZUN took this into account for his character design and very deliberately added these elements to the character so that despite her very clearly Communist-inspired appearance, it would serve as proof that the design in fact wasn't inspired by the Red Guard uniform? So despite some other _very iconic_ Chinese fashions, he happened to stumble upon this one BUT IT IS DEFINITELY IN NO WAY RELATED TO THE COMMUNIST LOOK, OKAY GUISE???

Please elucidate your position for me. I just don't understand how despite some otherwise very convincing proof, you still get hung up on these details and insist there's nothing even remotely Communist there.

>>8975470
香港狗

> this thread
Goddammit China this is why I told you to shut up. Stupid girl.

So what's up with a bronze age Chinese sword being one of Japan's most sacred Shinto treasures anyway?

>>8975442
>thinks i'm the same subhuman race
wwwww~

>>8975507
用廣東話一定係香港人?
so I'm an English man now? what?

>>8975516
yeah man pretty much

>>8974673
This.

>>8975507
here's your rmb$0.5

>>8974673
>>8975528

These

>>8975511
But Kusanagi is Korean

>>8975607
No I'm pretty sure that the Chinese were the first to use bronze, and then iron after that.

>>8975619
Because they learned from Koreans

>>8975649
lol, okay

by the way kimichi you're not using your trip, have you noticed?

ITT trolls vs 五毛

>>8975619
>and then iron after that
The Hittites would like a word with you.

>>8975683
Far East.

>>8975663
But why 4cha

...why /jp/?

>>8975663
More like fail trolls vs 五毛, if you think about it.

at least the 五毛 got paid

>>8975500
Are people in Taiwan considered Chinese by the Japanese?

>>8975817
I'm not Japanese but I bet they can tell the difference between Taiwanese and Mainland-Chinese. After all they ruled Taiwan for over 50 yrs.

>>8975817
Considered a separate nation, but the same ethnicity. Like the Koreas.

>>8975885
So Taiwanese in anime would be the same stereotype as a mainlander?

>>8975909
I don't know. I've never seen any Taiwanese characters in anime. The general assumption is that Chinese come from mainland China or Hong Kong though.

>>8975959
the only Taiwan related anime I can think of is Ghost In the Shell SAC 2nd GIG. but the Taiwanese in it look no different from Mainland-Chinese in other anime

我爱台妹台妹爱我
对我来说林志玲算什么
我爱台妹台妹爱我
对我来说侯佩岑算什么

>>8975607
Koreans claiming things again, news at 11

>>8976317
forgot my image

>>8975470
我不是中国人。他们是我们华人的耻辱。
我在日本看到有一个中国人插队。
对不起，我的中文很糟，没有读过中文。

>>8975909
>>8975959
I am an expert in this topic.

In Mainland China media, Hong Kong media and Taiwan media, there are a set of stereotypes for each subset of Chinese.

Northern Mainlanders: Aggressive, hot-blooded, talks very loudly, has slit eyes, swears all the time, alcoholic, beats their wives. Communist. Tall and manly. Eats wheat products, such as bread buns.

Southern Mainlanders: Cool-headed, sensible, thinks emotionally. Good at doing business. Short and fat. Larger, rounder eyes. Eats rice products. Eats "anything with four legs except tables, anything that flies except aeroplanes, anything that swims apart from submarines".

Taiwanese: Males talk quite femininely (e.g. "你想怎样～？") and are very quiet. Are very passive.

Hong Kongers: Very westernized, likes to show off their English. Myopic, and wears designer glasses. Very quiet talker, but sometimes confronting. Looks down on mainlanders. Good at doing business. Says "ah" all the time ("Hello ah, my name Tony ah, ngo dei gau lei zi ah?").

Singaporean Chinese: Chinese that have really shitty Chinese language skills. Rude and confronting towards others. Somewhat westernized.

>>8976360
It is easy to know where they come from.
Mainlanders speak with their tongue twisted all the time.
I hongkie cant speak mandarin so if you hear them speak with canto it is guarantee that they are hongkie.
Taiwanese speak proper mandarin and singaporean and malaysian just speak broken chinese.
For malaysian it is very obvious if you can hear them mix cantonese and english. Singaporean cant speak cantonese. Of course there are either dialect that I forgot to mention but if you are chinese you should know where hakka, teochew, hokkien come from most of the time.

>>8976360
continued:

Shanghainese: Gold diggers and prostitutes. Looks down on other Chinese, worships westerners.

Beijingers: Communist Party officials wearing red hats. Rich and corrupt; young people are "princelings".

Mongols: Horseback riders, very strong wrestlers.

Tibetans: Very good at throat-singing, very good and healthy lungs that can bellow out a loud voice. Passive and peaceful. Are either monks, farmers or traders.

Uyghurs: Rape, murder, arson, etc. Kind of like Muslims in Europe.

Koreans: They invented everything. "Oppa~~". Gets angry at the smallest of political incidents. Makes popular music and films.

Japanese: Polite, clean. "Honne and Tatamae". Peaceful societal structure. Denies historical atrocities.

>>8976409
>>8976360
from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_and_southern_China#Stereotypes

>Northerner: Is taller and larger in stature[5][6] Has smaller eyes with single eyelids Has lighter, fairer skin color[5] Speaks Mandarin with a northern accent Eats more noodles, dumplings and wheat-based foods[6] (rather than rice-based food)
>Southerner: Is slightly shorter and smaller in stature[5][6] Has higher frequency of double eyelids[8] Has slightly darker, tanner skin color[5] Speaks Mandarin with a southern accent and/or a southern variety of Chinese such as Yue (Cantonese), Wu, Hakka, Xiang, Min or Gan Eats more rice-based foods (rather than wheat-based food)

there's also a really good poem here
>http://www.aznlover.com/community/archive/index.php/t-64243.html
that describes regional stereotypes in greater detail.

>>8976448
In Dongbei, whence the Manchus came, the men do like their liquor.
While effusive with their friendship, with their enmity they’re quicker
Though they’re honest and straightforward, at the slightest provocation
They’ll show why they’ve been slandered as the Klingons of this nation.

The leggy Dongbei ladies for their beauty are renowned,
(I attest that in my travels, few more fetching have I found.)
But they suffer from one drawback, and it’s very sad to tell—
When they open up their mouths to speak, they break that magic spell.

The stalwart Shandong people grow as hearty as their scallions
On their noodle-heavy diet they’ve been bred as strong as stallions.
They’re known for dogged loyalty; they’re known as trusty folks,
But a bit slow on the uptake—thus, the butt of many jokes.

...

They say that Henan people are a sly and cunning lot.
But my ancestors are from there—proving some, at least, are not.
My co-provincials countrywide are blamed for every ill,
While provinces that suck as bad get let off easy still.

The Shanghainese are philistines, and this they’ll gladly own:
Commercial instincts permeate them to the very bone.
Their pride in Shanghai’s petit bourgeois ethos is immense
But what they lack in culture, they make up in common sense.

...

Beiingers love to gab, and though they’re lazy and they’re slow,
There’s nothing about politics that they aren’t apt to know.
They may complain a lot about the traffic and the air
But scratch beneath the cynicism and you’ll find they care.

>>8975984
It's been years since I last watched GitS:SAC. When was there Taiwanese in it? I can't remember seeing any.

>>8974666
I know that song. It's called "Taiwan is Good".

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Is_Good

>>8976528
and here's the music video from 1994:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqUR_uc-a7E&feature=related

>>8975741
Would they even bother coming onto decadent imperialist pig 4chan imageboard though? The great firewall should have it blocked. The gov needs these lackeys more on domestic forums like sina and mop.

>>8976545
What is wumao?
I am not well verse with china internet culture.

>>8976585
Government-hired commenters as part of their internet PR initiative. Their name comes from the fact/speculation that they get paid that much per pro-government post that they make. You'd expect them to be operating on the most popular Chinese forums.

>>8976611
5RMB for each shitposting?
Wow, I want this kind of job.

>>8976622
You sound like a jew, so here:
http://www.thejidf.org/

>>8976622
0.5RMB.

>>8976521

GITS SAC 2nd gig. There were Taiwanese refugees in Japan

>>8976585
see
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

>>8976545
In China, www.4chan.org is blocked (the main introduction page), however boards.4chan.org is not blocked. Anyone who's not an idiot can access 4chan from China.

See the footnote at the bottom of
>http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/4chan

>>8977332
600yuan as a part time shitposter.
China isnt that bad if they can people to do such menial and stupid task. Why are they still people in poverty when the government are wasting money for shitposting?

>>8977332
600yuan as a part time shitposter.
China isnt that bad if they can hire people to do such menial and stupid task. Why are they still people in poverty when the government are wasting money for shitposting?

>>8977353
I bet Tokiko, Currybutt and the rest are all paid by the Chinese government to shit up /jp/.

>>8977332
>50 Cent Party

for a second, I was thinking of the rapper forming a political party for niggaz in da hood

>我們忘不了大陸上的同胞，
>在死亡線上掙扎，在集中營裡苦惱。
>他們在求救，他們在哀嚎，
>你聽他們在求救，他們在哀嚎求救哀嚎！

implying these were not true back in 60s

>>8977547
stop living in the past, butthurt KMTfag

the Chinese communist party is the future, the saviour of the Chinese people

inb4 accusations of 50cent, i'm a white american

Hello to all the confused people in this thread I would like to point out that what you perceive as communist Chinese attire and often call a "Mao-suit" is in fact designed by Sun Yatsen himself as a mix between Western and Chinese style. In China this is called a Zhongshan (Sun Yatsen) suit, not a Mao suit.

But Meiling doesn't wear that anyway.

>>8977553
no wonder you're retared. you're probably a liberalfag.

>>8977553
KMT Taiwanese (the dogs that ran away) and even South Korean butthurt are perfectly understandable. Without American support, they are nothing and wouldn't last a week with the 1300+ cruise missiles aimed at Taiwan or China favouring an NK 'united' Korea. Even with American support, they are nothing but puppets. Now the US is dragging its heels on Taiwan because it's going broke and the Chinese military is becoming more capable. It certainly won't be the first time the US tosses away a previous 'ally' like a used condom with the changing times though.
tl;dr: their butthurt is understandable given that they know they wouldn't be able to stand by themselves as a true sovereign nation without uncle Sam.

>>8979299
Why just South Korea and Taiwan? Japan is in exactly the same boat.

>>8979373
True but they don't face the immediate prospect of easy annexation given geographic convenience and a much smaller population. Japan is certainly huge (in terms of land and population) compared to Taiwan or SK. Regardless, if the existence of one's so-called independent country is a temporary illusion only possible from being 'useful' to someone else, it's a hefty blow to one's pride (if they can have any at all) and other nationalist sentiments. Butthurt ensues and the tears are delicious.

>>8979373
Basically can be explained by weaboos

Why are some words in bold?

>>8979694
Han unification failure

>>8979694
fix up your fonts in your browser settings

>>8979694
Because you're using an operating system that is decades behind in terms of standards.

>>8980347
it's a browser issue you retard, nothing to do with the OS

>>8980357
Guess what handles font rendering.
Guess who distributes the fonts.

>>8980363
guess what installing font packs does.

fucking nerd.

Whoops, seems like I haven’t explained this one yet — sorry /jp/!
This song is called 台灣好 Taiwan Hao, it’s a nationalist Chinese song written in Taiwan (of course after the Mainland–Taiwan split).
It praises Taiwan and how cool it is, but it is not a Taiwanese nationalist song, as it’s also about the desire to reclaim and liberate the mainland.

Of course, nowadays that seems very much unlikely.

OP earlier posted:
* The PRC anthem
* An unofficial ROC anthem from before the establishment of the PRC
* A patriotic song from the second Sino-Japanese war referencing the Mukden incident

I don’t know why he is doing it.

>>8983109
And here’s a Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Is_Good

>>8983109
Hello OP
>it is not a Taiwanese nationalist song
>about the desire to reclaim and liberate the mainland
Can you clarify?

>>8983393
>Hello OP
No, I’m not OP. I don’t know what drives him, he seems to just post Chinese nationalist songs (be they ROC or PRC) and then abandons the thread.

>Can you clarify?
A *Taiwanese* nationalist would be someone who wants to get rid of the ROC in favour of a fully independent Taiwan outside of the “China” context. See the DPP party.
A Taiwanese nationalist (so not a Chinese nationalist from/in Taiwan) does not identify as Chinese and wants the ROC to officially become Taiwan and drop the claims on the mainland.
A KMT-supporting Chinese nationalist in/from Taiwan would (at least theoretically) support the reclaiming of the Mainland, identifies as Chinese and sees the ROC as the legitimate ruler over both mainland China and Taiwan.

Chinese is a mongrel tongue, please leave.

White skin master race reporting in. Please leave plebs.

>>8983460
Ignorant american who thinks chinks can read English.

>Meiling not a Commie
What's her fucking surname?
红
What's her fucking occupation?
Guard.
QED Red Guard.
I pity you if you can't even decipher this low-level pun.

>>8983460
They wouldn't understood, use this.

>>8983460
>Jap
Irony.

Why you still use hieroglyphs Chinamen?

>>8986329
Because us white boys didn't finish the job of civilizing them with bullets, opium and maybe even disease infected blankets. Well I suppose there's still too goddamn many of them even if you had all that plus the unequal treaties and the best navies/armies in the world (with China paying reparations for any conflicts you start with them).

>>8986305
Finally used correctly

>>8983109
OP shi shei ah? OP wa dare?

>>8983734
What is Meiling's given name?
Meiling.
Who does she share a name with?
Song Meiling (commonly spelled "Soong May-ling" in western literature), the wife of ROC president Chiang Kai-Shek.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soong_May-ling

It goes both ways.

>>8988351
>Hóng Měilíng
>紅美鈴

>Sòng Měilíng
>宋美齡

>美鈴
>美齡
>鈴
>齡

They have different radicals bro. The first ling uses金, the second ling uses 齒.

>>8986305
why are you posting dirty westaboo magician with blonde hair?

>>8988421

>>8975470
>咩
这字啥意思？

>>8988614
口+羊=咩 (mie1 ㄇㄧㄝ)
Bleating of a sheep.

>>8988645
why the fuck was that guy talking about the bleating of sheep then?

is this some kind of joke they use in the south or something?

>>8988661
關你咩事 = it’s none of your business/has nothing to do with you

From what I've read,

Chinese will date foreigners that speak Mandarin
Japanese will date foreigners if they find them attractive
Pig-dog Koreans only fuck other Koreans

Is this true?

>>8988751
No.

>>8988751
>Generalizations
>True

Why do you all give Chinese so much attention on /jp/?

>>8976360
>>8976409


>>Uyghurs: Rape, murder, arson, etc. Kind of like Muslims in Europe.

Big surprise there, right?

Slightly off-topic, but since this is pretty much a China thread: Why the fuck are there so many weeaboos on the Chinese Wikipedia? Currently Katawa Shoujo is on the front page, under the "Did you know?" section. It's as if they don't remember World War II anymore.

>>8993477
Because the present generation of chinese males are a bunch of wimpy sissy boys who don't know anything about honor and would gladly bow down to suck Japanese dick.

>>8993477
>It's as if they don't remember World War II anymore.
Nobody fucking remembers living through World War Two. Well, there are people to do, but they are all, like, eighty or some shit like that.

>>8993477
On that topic, why are there so many American weeaboos? Don't they remember Pearl Harbor?

>>8993477
China has a huge population. A huge population of children growing up with Japanese animation. Even if only a relatively small number of those grow up to be weeaboos, that’ll still be a big number in absolute terms.
Also China has loads of men who will never find a wife due to the distorted gender ratio. Better for them to embrace 2D and give up on finding a wife than for them to become angry and frustrated. Having a huge population of angry frustrated men who can’t find a wife spells trouble, so it’s for the best if a good chunk of them become weeaboo nerds without 3D interest.

Also: Taiwan is weeaboo central. A lot of those articles are probably written by Taiwanese.

Who the fuck keeps bumping this thread?

bump

>>8993842
>A huge population of children growing up with Japanese animation
The state controls television broadcasting, and most children in China don't learn about ways to get around the Great Firewall until later.
So as you said, most Chinese weeaboos on Wikipedia are most likely Taiwanese.

This is a board for Japanese culture, not Chinese!

chinese dog