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Last one started with what order you did extra bosses, how about what order you got your first 1cc? was it on easy? normal? go back to a game and do hard or lunatic?

For me IN, EoSD, MoF, Mystic Square, UFO, PCB, Lotus Land Story, Story of the eastern wonderland, and TD(Which I just did for the first time today! - replay included) I really like the stage 4 boss theme, but the rest of the music is so forgettable.

Want to try and do SA but it's really hard for me. Might do some extra bosses, I've only done Flan and Ran but got pretty far on Nue and Yukari and Mamizou seems really really easy. Tied Alice but she destroyed me.


http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20511

>> No.8917415

My only 1cc so far is IN Normal

I am so close to PCB that I can practically taste it, though. Just got to get past Yuyuko's final couple of spells.

...I suck at this, don't I?

>> No.8917421

>STG
>ShooTing Game

Why are Japs so retarded?

>> No.8917428

>>8917415
Everyone does at the start, but if you are enjoying it you will get better pretty fast.

>> No.8917424

>>8917415
don't worry most of /jp/ does, I'm in the same boat but swap PCB with UFO.

>> No.8917432

>>8917428
I've been playing on and off for nearly two years, though.

My IN 1cc was only about six or seven months ago, but still...

>> No.8917436

Been struggling with SA hard for months now. I actually got to Utsuho with like 7 lifes once but ragequit after dying twice to her first spellcard.
Utsuho isn't even that hard, but it feels like her spellcards go on FOREVER.
Also her noncards are annoying as fuck.

>> No.8917445

>>8917432
oh...

>> No.8917454

>>8917421
シュー・ティング・ゲーム
why are you so retarded

I've always done all the games in order, 1cc one then go do the next, right from the beginning. Even though I started EoSD Hard before finishing UFO Normal, the same applies for each difficulty.

>> No.8917479

>>8917432
Don't worry, I know that feel. I've been playing for about a year now and I still haven't got in a 1cc of every game on normal.

>> No.8917502

>>8917391
OP forgot to say all my 1ccs' have been on normal...never completed a game on anything else (Except 1 CCd PCB on easy just so I could collect spellcards to unlock phantasm)

>> No.8917521

why is eosd so much harder than pcb

>> No.8917530

>>8917521
I thought EoSD was easier than PCB...but that was because I had no prior knowledge going into youmu and she destroyed me. I think Remilia is a lot easier than Yuyuko. Sakuya on the other hand is still the only reason I can't do EoSD on hard.

>> No.8917533

>>8917521
Because Sakuya is a fucking cunt with full retard attacks

>> No.8917541

>>8917521
It was the other way around for me. Sakuya is quite simple after a little bit of practice, but I still find Youmu difficult even now. Neither Yuyuko nor Remilia are particularly hard, but I'd say Remilia was easier.

>> No.8917576

>>8917521
>>8917533
It's harder for you because you can't dodge things
>>8917541
It's harder for you because you can't bomb properly

>> No.8917579

>>8917454
What you posted doesn't make more sense

>> No.8917592
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8917592

can anyone translate this

>> No.8917596

>>8917592
"The pleasure of being cummed inside"

>> No.8917597

MAN. I know I can do it, but I keep on dying and shit in PCB. I've never managed a 1cc in any straight game of Touhou. Advice? I'm most interested in PCB and EoSD.

>> No.8917601

>>8917597
Unless you tell us exactly where you're struggling, all we can say is "play more".

>> No.8917603

Should I feel ashamed for using continues?

>> No.8917612

in your opinion, which game has the best soundtrack? and what is your favorite track?

>> No.8917614

I lost to Parsee
on Easy
and I used continues
I should just kill myself

>> No.8917622

>>8917601
Mostly bad feels for continuing, fuckups on things that make no sense fucking up on, my hand cramping up from the painful Shift Z X scheme for the action controls, and tips on how to spot patterns that can be exploited like in the vids you see on Youtube.

>> No.8917619

>>8917597
I cant 1cc PCB, but I can 1cc IN, UFO, MoF and recently EoSD. Youmu gives me a hard time because I can't capture her spellcards.

What >>8917601
says applies.

I only play normal because I'm weak.

>> No.8917630

>>8917612
Touhou has shitty and unoriginal chiptune music. Anyone can make it.

>> No.8917638

>>8917597
Play SA on normal. Keep using continues until you beat it. I don't care if you have to try every stage 50 times. I had 1cc'd eosd, pcb, in and mof on normal when I first seriously attempted SA but it was still crazy hard for me. I couldn't even 1cc it on easy. Then I just tried normal until I finally beat it (using god knows how many continues). After that I cleared it on easy with no effort at all. Then I went back and played the previous games and 1cc'd them on normal with no effort either. Shortly after that I was able to 1cc SA on normal.

But SA's streaming mechanic completely ruined me for UFO and it took me far longer to 1cc UFO than SA, even though since then I had also cleared ran, yukari and suwako

>> No.8917644

>>8917601
Not the guy your replied to, but maybe someone could give me some advice? Forgive me if I spell some of the names wrong.

I'm playing my first touhou, EoSD. After some practice, I can get to Level 6(normal) but usually with 1 life left, and I can't beat Remilia with that.

I've learned a bit on how to get points faster which gives me more lives, but my main point of trouble is Sakuya. Even on the first encounter with her, I simply can not dodge many of her attacks. By the end of level 5, I typically lose 4 lives and use up all of my bombs.

Is there some specific strategy against Sakuya? I'm playing as Marisa with the... I think it's the Magic Missile attack. Whatever shoots the little trees.

>> No.8917673

>>8917622

I am no schmup pro, but I'd start with identifying patterns that target your hitbox, patterns that DON'T target your hitbox but somewhere around you, and patterns that are simply static. A mixture of static and targetting is in Nitori's spellcard Ooze flooding.

Those are the really, really basic patterns that you learn-- those that target you you can easily dodge with some taps to a side, the ones that don't by standing in the same general area you are at (it's like the spellcard zones you), and the static ones you just gotta have an eye for where they show up, after that its easy if you know where the safe spots are.

I'm pretty sure others can elaborate on more complex schmup mechanics though.

>>8917644
In my experience, most of Sakuya's spells are of the targetting type. The trick lies into leading the bullets away so that when the random spreads happen they spread wider, thus giving you more dodging room.

>> No.8917680

>>8917644
marisa a is my favorite character...I can upload my replay for you if you want? I wasn't really good and I bombed a lot and stuff, but it might help...For misdirection your best bet is looking it up on youtube.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20513

:)

>> No.8917686

Why people always start danmaku threads with images of Descent of Izuna Gongen/Boundary of life and death...

>> No.8917683

>>8917622
Don't focus on bullets and try to avoid them, focus on empty spaces and follow them.

>> No.8917690

>>8917686
Boundary of Life and Death is the one in Wikipedia. Descent of Izuna Gongen just looks similar and kind of fucked up as well because of the bullet variety and density.

I like the colors in the spellcard myself.

>> No.8917691

>>8917622
How exactly does your hand cramp? Do you have huge hands?

And again, "exploiting patterns" depends entirely on what pattern you're talking about. If you're having any troubles before stage 5, you probably just need to work on general dodging skill. I'm not trying to sound like an ass, but it's really difficult to help somebody if they don't give specific details. If it's Sakuya and Youmu, then I'll write a wall of text about them.

>>8917644
Sakuya is mostly about positioning and knowing when to move. For her midboss opener, don't stay at the bottom of the screen or you make things very difficult for yourself. Her midboss spellcard (Misdirection) seems hard, but it's actually very easy. Stand perfectly still until the red kunais have stopped firing, then move very slowly to one side as she fires the knives. They are all aimed at you.

Her boss nonspells don't really have defined strategies. Just avoid hugging the bottom or you WILL die. Her first spell is pretty much streaming. Go right to the bottom of the screen and wait for the bullets to be fired, then move out to one side at a steady pace once time resumes. Honestly, I'm not very good so I haven't found fantastic strategies for her final two spells, but I find that avoiding the bottom of the screen works wonders. Move close as she fires the knives, then find somewhere with a lot of breathing room for when time stops/starts. You're much less likely to be caught by surprise.

>> No.8917728

>>8917592
the joy of being ejaculated inside

>> No.8917765

>>8917691
For the midboss, staying away from the bottom works for her first attack, but for Misdirection, I always lose 3 lives on it. If I stand perfectly still, the red missiles hit me. I have to move from them. But if I move slightly, then I can't get away from the knives. The only way I've ever been able to do it is by using every bomb I have.

I'm also incredibly unlucky and she always warps into a place I can't get to. I can rarely defeat her within the time limit.

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>>8917765
If you watch the replay
>>8917680
I do the same thing...lost 2 bombs and a life on misdirection. pic related.

>> No.8917795

>>8917765
You have to move just before the first red kunai would hit you. If you're still getting hit by the knives, either you're moving too quickly or too slowly. I don't know if it's possible to move too slowly (as long as you are moving), so I imagine you're going too fast. You are using Marisa, and she does move quite fast compared to Reimu (my usual choice).

>> No.8917818

>>8917765
I tried to find a video on Youtube that shows Misdirection on Normal, but apparently everyone that plays on Normal can't play at all. Seriously, it is just one tap and then another to dodge everything.

>> No.8917824
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8917824

I'm still trying to do get my NBNUFO run of Seirensen. I can't do more than a few runs per day if any because I'm very burned out. I've been at it for about half a year now. The closest I have gotten is loosing the run on the last spellcard's slowdown. That was months ago. I can still feel myself getting better at Touhou, and I think that I can still get the run. It's going to be an amazing feeling when I do.

>> No.8917836

>>8917818
I would do a stage 5 practice run just to get a replay, but I'm completely exhausted right now and can't play to save my life.

It's also been a few months since I was last playing EoSD, so the hitboxes are fucking me over.

>> No.8917832

>>8917818
>>8917795
>>8917790
Thanks for the advice. I think my problem, actually, is that I'm just too frustrated at the moment. That's why I don't play a lot of video games, because I get angry at them too quickly. Like, through my controller down and pout angry.

Hopefully after an hour long break I'll be all happy and focused again.

>> No.8917857

>>8917836
Can't save stage practice replays on EoSD

>> No.8917892

>>8917857
Really? Damn.

Guess I'll have to do a Youtube one then.

>> No.8917904

>>8917892
Which is exactly why I was trying to find one in the first place. Recording for something as stupid as Misdirection is a huge waste of time.

>> No.8917912

>>8917904
I did it anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBitLiArtkk

>> No.8917919
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8917919

I'm playing farmlive in UFO and I'm trying to get full lifes before stage 3, this is the maximum amount I've managed to collect, anyone else had more luck or found a way to do it?

>> No.8917922

>>8917912
Why does this look... oh. Graphic patch? I was wondering why there were hitboxes in my EoSD.

>> No.8917934

>>8917919
Tell me your secrets

>>8917922
Yes, I'm using that texture patch with the hitboxes.

>> No.8917947

>>8917912
>hitbox

geet ouutt

>> No.8917958

>>8917947
What's the problem? Every other game has a hitbox.

>> No.8917972

>>8917958
I am seething with rage at you playing a game a way it was not meant to be.

>> No.8917983

>>8917919
I think that that is the maximum on Lunatic(or off by a factor of one), but I'm not sure about Normal. Let me test it out.

>> No.8917980

>>8917972
This. Except whereas >>8917972 might be being sarcastic, I am not.

>> No.8917985

>>8917958
No, every game since PCB has a hitbox because ZUN made them that way because he intended for them to be played that way and designed the games accordingly.

>> No.8917992

>>8917958
There is no problem. Ignore the sperglords.

>> No.8917996

>>8917985
This. Seriously, you can even tell EoSD has been designed around not having a hitbox. There are fewer narrower spaces and you need more of an instinctive feeling of where it is.

>> No.8918005

>>8917980
>>8917947
Please no. The only people it might advantage are the newer players who can't just look at the player's ribbon, and at that level you aren't even dodging things that actually require a precise target. Completely regardless, it makes very little difference. Don't be a jackass.

>> No.8918006

If you use a hitbox you don't deserve to play Touhou. Touhou was actually intended to dispel casuals, not attract them. Hence why ZUN never released a Touhou game outside of Japan.

>> No.8918015

>>8918006
>ten desires.

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>>8917919
>>8917983
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20518
I beated you.
Thanks for giving me an excuse to use my favorite shot.

>> No.8918118

>>8918006
If you doing anything except pacifist run on Lunatic GFW, you're a secondary.

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>>8918118

>> No.8918277

>>8918080
Is that so? I actually managed to get full lives a little after Ichirin mid boss fight, when do you?

>> No.8918650
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kogasa's ufo extra spellcards are hard :(

>> No.8918688
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8918688

I really wanted 11 to be my first 1cc, but god damn it's normal mode is hard compared to the others. Grinding it constantly get me good enough at the game to beat 6 eventually while taking a break from grinding against Orin

>> No.8918969

I made it to danmaku bounded field for the first time ever. With no loves and 2 bombs. Made it past 3 of the waves and on the fourth...I ran into a stationary bullet.


....:( no phantasm clear for me.

>> No.8919453

>>8918969
Wow. Dying at the last grasp is like my specialty.

>> No.8919464

>>8918969
Phantasm is only 10 minutes long.

I once died at Byakuren's last spellcard when she only had 1% HP. That's 30 minutes long.

>> No.8919483

>>8919464
Hahaha. I have you beat.

...Looks like the replay website is down, but when its not search for Cute...and my death at the slowdown for Byakuren's final spell card.

So I died when she had 0% hp.

Pretty pathetic.

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8919485

friendly advise to all beginners

>> No.8919628

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20528

Of course this was after having a run where I died when Marisa had 0 HP...

>> No.8919925

>>8918118
If you're not going for the world record in every game you play, you're a piece of shit and should die.

>> No.8921685
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bumpu pantsu

>> No.8921690

>>8919485
This. You have no reason to die with bombs left, especially after EoSD.

Anyone have that story from some forum where a guy death bombed his way through (I think) IN?

>> No.8921711

>>8919464
I once died on Byakuren when she has already died and screen was slowing down... Would have been first UFO 1cc at that time.

>> No.8921759

>>8921690
Sounds like exactly how I beat IN.

>> No.8921766

>>8921690
you can also beat MoF and SA this way.

>> No.8922161

How do I beat Sakuya's "Misdirection"?

>> No.8922189

>>8922161
Anon....
>>8917912

>> No.8922198

>>8922189
I actually did a CTRL-F but made a typo (´・ω・)

It was just an excuse to bump the thread anyway.

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8922436

>>8918969
Welp just got home. After dinner and coffee my night will be dedicated to beating this.

>> No.8922925

>>8922436
Muhahaha.

I got to the exact same point, about to hit danmaku bounded filed with no lives and 2 bombs....then suddenly extra life!
yay!

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20551
I think I'll try mamizou next, then Nue

>> No.8922953

>>8919453

I know your pain. I finally cleared EoSD 's extra stage a couple of days ago. Or I would have, If I hadn't managed to crash into a bullet just as the boss exploded. On my first extra clear, no less. I then spent about 30 minutes dying on the stage in the worst ways imaginable before I beat her.

>> No.8922973

How do you guys not get filled with rage when you're failing? I've been practicing EoSD (guy who had trouble with Sakuya last night) and I don't get any better. I just keep dying the same ways, and if I try to fix what I was doing wrong, I just die in a new way.

My sessions always end with me screaming an obscenity and throwing my controller on the ground. Done this for years with video games, surprised this one controller has lasted. This is also why I don't play very many video games, because I get too angry.

So my question is, how do you take it easy when everything goes wrong all the time? Because I sure as hell can't.

>> No.8922985

Oh what the hell...I want to try th13 extra (which I just unlocked yesterday on another computer) I put the entire game on a USB and put it on this comp...but it doesn't have my clear on it.......Is this because TH13 has that weird location for files in appdata/roaming?

>> No.8922991

>>8922973
Have you tried using a keyboard instead of a controller?

>> No.8922997

>>8922973
I learned a very valuable lesson in controlling my rage when I was new to Touhou. I was playing EoSD, and I was just doing absolutely horribly. I was getting worse with every play through, So I hit my laptop. I hit in the sweet spot to destroy my hard drive. Ever since then I have never been mad at Touhou.

>> No.8923009

>>8922991
Then I would just throw my keyboard... unless the keyboard controls better or something?

>>8922997
I generally don't go for the computer, just my controller. It's funny, though. I can start my session all positive thinking I'll laugh off each death. By the time I've lost 2 and I'm on Sakuya I just want to stab my cat.

Sometimes I relax by fapping, but I don't have the stamina to do this for each session of Touhou.

>> No.8923036

>>8922973
I've always considered myself to be much more emotional than most. Maybe I just don't hide it as much? I've cried my eyes out multiple times upon loosing a good run at the last second. You couldn't imagine how bad I felt when I lost a NBNUFO of UFO Lunatic on the last spellcard slowdown after loosing another one the same way a few months prior. Runs that good only happen every few months, and it's a huge deal when one gets lost. After spending half a year on this one goal, I would love to finally finish it. Also...
>My sessions always end with me screaming an obscenity and throwing my controller on the ground.
Get a keyboard. I would rage too if I had to dodge bullets and I couldn't control the game to save my life.
>>8922985
Yes, here's a trick for it: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Double_Spoiler/Tools
>>8923009
>Sometimes I relax by fapping, but I don't have the stamina to do this for each session of Touhou.
That's going to make you a lot more distressed and rage-prone in the long run. It's very unhealthy to masturbate to fight anger, no matter how tempting it may be.

>> No.8923083

>>8923036
I've had equal results with both keyboard and controller. As well, I'd still get just as angry and just hit my keyboard with my fist, which I've done with online games. If I have to lose anything, I'd rather it be the controller.

>> No.8923274

>>8918277
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20552
I made a run for you. It's not very good, but maybe you can learn from it. Why is Normal mode so hard?

>> No.8923280
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8923280

>Last one started with what order you did extra bosses, how about what order you got your first 1cc? was it on easy? normal? go back to a game and do hard or lunatic?
PCB easy > PCB normal > EoSD normal > IN normal > MoF Normal > PCB Extra > SA normal > MoF Extra > UFO normal > TD normal > PCB Phantasm > PCB Hard > ???

I haven't been playing to aim for a clear lately, I should work on that but life is pretty draining after getting back to work.

>> No.8923281

>>8923280
Meant to say I did them all with MarisaA too.

>> No.8924740

Saving from shitposts.

>> No.8925809
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It's been months since I had my last real achievement, and right now it doesn't feel like any amount of practice is making a difference for me. My frustration usually leads to me playing really aggressively, which of course gets me killed. I still have SA and UFO to 1cc, but I'm not getting any closer. If anything it feels like I'm getting worse, a while ago I managed to 1cc IN on hard, now I even struggle on Keine. I can't take it easy like this.

Also bump for game discussion.

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8925855

Are there any good new space shooters released lately? I mean, I know how back in the day they started getting overused and companies had to start doing different shit to appeal to consumers, but it's still my favorite type of STG.

>> No.8926131

>>8925855
Eschatos

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>>8925855
wwww

>> No.8926382

One of those newfags to the games. This morning I finally beat level 5 of EoSD with only 1 life lost, and was able to beat Remilia without using any continues. It was exciting. I was ready to die, no bombs left, on her final attack, when all of a sudden I got enough points for an extra life. That saved my ass.

After I realized I had won my heart was pounding and I could hear it pounding in my ears. Then I realized it was just practice mode.

Well, a question. On level 6, Normal mode of EoSD, there are those fairies right before Sakuya arrives which shoot rings of bullets. I can dodge them just fine until the last wave, which has 3 fairies on each side of the screen. Any advice on those other than just "don't hit the bullets"? I've tried killing them before they fire, but then I have to get close to do that, and I get too close to other fairies to be able to dodge their bullets.

>> No.8926403

>>8926382
Everything is aimed. Stay still while bullets are being fired, only tap to the side once you need to.

>> No.8926413

>>8926403
Not that guy, but are you sure? I always thought that they were more static. I usually just dodge them normally by staying off to one side.

>> No.8926423

>>8926413
Absolutely sure. On every difficulty.

>> No.8926436

>>8926423
Huh, you're right. I guess it's quite hard to tell on normal.

>> No.8926446

what is better keyboard or js?

>> No.8926465

>>8926446
Joystick. It's kind of hard to explain, but it feels a lot more free-form being able to move around a stick instead of just having four on-or-off buttons. I think most of the famous records and replays were done with a joystick of some sort.

Plug in a PlayStation or Xbox controller or something, try using that.

>> No.8926468

>>8926446
Whichever one you like better

>> No.8926484

>>8926446
I use a Logitech controller with a dpad which I've had for over 5 years. I've tried using the keyboard, but due to being used to the dpad, I just can't maneuver well. And I always accidentally fire off bombs...

Yet I use keyboard exclusively in most games. Just STGs I need a controller.

>> No.8926485

>>8926468

Or the one that IS better, which is a joystick.

You sentimentalist NERD

>> No.8926555

just 1cc esod hard, came into scarlet meister with no lives / no bombs, and somehow cleared it anyway

>> No.8926569

>>8926485
>joystick
ARCADE STICK MOTHERFUCKER

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8926572

on what difficulty would i need to beat the game in to fit in with /jp/?

>> No.8926575

>>8926572
You don't even have to play the games to fit in on /jp/.

>> No.8926579

>>8926485
D-pad > joystick > keyboard

>> No.8926585

>>8926572
Don't play the games at all and you'll fit in with /jp/ the most.

>> No.8926590

Instead of arguing about which input method is superior, post your input method of choice and your greatest Touhou accomplishment. Let the scores decide.

>> No.8926600

>>8926590
You just say that because you suck too bad to play Touhou with a Wii remote.

>> No.8926669

>>8926590
I currently use a mechanical keyboard with Cherry MX Red switches. This is the exact model: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,fullsize&pid=fc500rrabn
I used a regular rubber-dome keyboard up until a few months ago. The last thing I did on it was a perfect VoWG timeout. I've been playing for barely a year now.

I have too far many achievements to name, so I'll just drop this:
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/User:Riz/Riz%27s_1CCs
http://www.youtube.com/user/someotherguy560/videos

My most impressive accomplishments are probably the VoWG timeout and the Tongling Yoshika timeout. As for my runs, I think that my multiple UFO Lunatic handicapped runs speak for themselves.

I'm just going to post something I've already written:
>I've personally never used a game pad, so it's hard to give you my opinion. Every good player I know prefers the keyboard by far. I would say they are better suited for the fighting games. I don't think you can match the precision of a keyboard with them. Still, they might be an interesting way to change things around, especially if you are shooting for arcade-like authenticity. Every good player I know of uses a keyboard exclusively.
And I'm still sticking with that.

>> No.8926755

>>8926403
It worked. I couldn't believe it.

I finally did my first run through EoSD normal without using a continue. If it weren't for the different tidbits of advice from this thread I'd still be practicing stage 5 over and over and getting angry. I love you all.

Died 3 times. One of them being as Remilia was dying on her final attack, I got hit by a stray bullet. Made me laugh.

>> No.8926793

>>8926590
Input:
http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/keyboards/keyboard/devices/7241
Achievements:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/index.php?u=Cactu&g=--&p=&t=--&d=--&ch=0

>> No.8926826

>>8926590
I use a shitty keyboard while lying on the floor
1cc'd Eosd lunatic with every shot type or cleared every StB and DS scene with both hatate and aya

my hand goes numb about every 5 minutes, I should get a desk

>> No.8926923

>>8926590
What do the world record players use? Of course, the WR players for arcade games use arcade sticks.

>> No.8926992

>>8926923
I have UFO Extra with ReimuA and TD Extra with Reimu and Sanae.

My friend has UFO Extra with MarisaA.

We both use keyboard.

>> No.8926994

>>8926669
Get over yourself

>> No.8927013

Anyone I know online who uses a controller is...not very good.

>> No.8927034

I feel really strange, because I actually use a controller, but I can 1CC most games on hard. Why so much hatred, /jp/? ;_;

>> No.8927053

Use whatever input method you find comfortable, in the end it comes down to how much you have done your homework and not what damn input method you use.

>> No.8927074

>>8927034
play to win. Always play to win. Always play for score. Always play Lunatic. Always set your life to minimum and play with broken hands. Anything else would be dishonorable to your adversary 2hus.

>> No.8927150

I heard a rumor that YASU (IN WR holder) uses an arcade stick, is this correct?

>> No.8927152

how does zun play 2hu?

>> No.8927168

>>8927150
Gamepad.

>> No.8927189

>>8927152
I heard he uses a PS2 pad.

>> No.8927208

>>8927189
This, I remember a PS2 pad in when he did show his work zone.

>> No.8927213

The only difficulty available should be Lunatic. You start at Lunatic, you only play Lunatic. It's the way of the warrior.

>> No.8927236

>>8927189
Why not PS3? They're the same.

HIPSTER

>> No.8927381

>>8927074
>>8927213
I can't even tell what's ironic anymore

>> No.8928482

>>8927381
I can, ironically.

>> No.8928807

Is there anyway to play PoFV without my hand cramping? I want to just hold fire to fire :(

>> No.8929091

Wow nvm PoFV is awful, spent like 15 mins on half a hitpoint fighting the last boss who just wouldn't die until I did and lost my last life.I guess thats why most people don't mention it.

>> No.8929111
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>> No.8929172

>>8929091
PoFV is really bad, yeah.

No holding to fire is just the tip of the iceberg.

>> No.8929194
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IN, MoF, TD, EoSD, PCB. Still never 1cc'd SA or UFO. SA is really giving me a lot of trouble.

Also out of all the games I've 1cc'd, PCB was by far the most difficult. Is it me, or is Yuyuko way harder than every other final boss?

>> No.8929202

>>8929194
I've 1ccd ever game cept SA, and done ran, yukari and flan.


I think Yuyuko is pretty hard tbh.

>> No.8929199

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20549
what can I improve on?

>> No.8929204

>>8929199
I'll watch it in like 15 mins

>> No.8929229

i got my first cc on normal on mountain of faith. took a few months. and i BARELY did it.

>> No.8929243

>>8929229
Congrats :)

>> No.8929255

>>8929199
>slowdown 0,431
Install Vpatch.

>> No.8929327

>>8929255
nah my computer is just shit. I don't think vpatch would help

>> No.8929335

>>8929199
Oh wow couldn't even get past stage 4 with 5 lives.
Ok, heres my suggestions.

1. Play more
1a. You can't dodge at all, you have like no foresight, but this comes as you play more so that is fine. One big issue with that though is when you are nervous you hug the bottom of the screen, that leaves you with no extra room to "back off" or dodge though special gaps that might appear, don't be scared to move up a little , the very bottom should not be your starting point most of the time.
1b. Install V-patch if you haven't although right now you probably wouldn't even notice.

2. I'd prolly go with Reimu A to start as shes the bestest for beginners...but it's up to you really.

>> No.8929340
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>>8929199
First of all, SakuyaB isn't a very good shot type for beginners to use. If I were you, I'd go for something like MarisaB. Reimu is underpowered in PCB I believe.

Most of your deaths and bombs from stages 1-3 were a bit silly. Nothing much to say about them. The mistakes you made there will be erased with some more experience.

On Alice's Scarlet Sign: Red-Haired Dutch Dolls, don't worry about destroying the dolls. They respawn quickly and the pattern isn't hard to dodge anyway, Just fire away at Alice.

On stage 4, the majority of bullets are aimed at you. You're supposed to stream them - the make small movements from side to side and you should be good. PCB's stage 4 is NOT a stage where you want to be moving around the screen a lot, or else you'll find yourself immersed in bullets, or trapped by them.

And Merlin really owned you hard. She's tough; if you don't play as Sakuya, then you won't have to fight her at all.

>> No.8929361

>>8929340
Surely you jest? Reimu B is overpowered as hell. Small hitbox, long deathbomb time, high damage at any range, and for things that you really don't want to deal with, her focused bomb up close destroys almost any spellcard. So much for having to deal with Youmu.

Marisa suffers from lack of bombs, whereas Sakuya is great for beginners because she can bomb everything. Sakuya's auto-aiming shot was the first 1cc I ever had.

>> No.8929376

>>8929361
Oh right, I forgot reimu B is great in PCB.

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>>8929361
I forgot how powerful ReimuB is, you're right. But ReimuA deals damage so slowly, she's not even worth using.

As for Sakuya, she gets more bombs, but they aren't really great. SakuyaA is strong for a homing attack, but you have to know what you're doing to use SakuyaB. Plus, her focused movement is way too fast for me.

>> No.8929393

vpatch installed; not really noticing a difference.
Benadryl has me messed up right now. No sense trying any further than what I just tried a few minutes ago. I'll be going to bed now.
it's a shame after 4 years I haven't really made much improvement.

>> No.8929411

>>8929172
>>8929091

PoFV is a great game.
you should learn how to play it properly before insulting it

>> No.8929777

>>8929411
No its not.

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>>8929380

I learned the PCB with Sakuya B, it feels very strange to use any other shottype and not be able to aim the same way, all my strategies for each level are ruined. .

>> No.8930331

That feel when you fully chain 2-5 in DOJBL for the first time.

Does anyone know how to record inputs after using a save state? I use MAME Plus, and whenever I try to do that it doesn't work.

>> No.8930543
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>everyone says touhou 3 is one of the hardest
>try it
>straight to character select
>1cc my first time, losing only 1 life
>joyous celebration
>RANK: EASY
Oh.


Time to turn this shit on.

>> No.8930575

>>8930543
http://greentext.org

>> No.8930648

>>8930575
Oh wow.

>> No.8931651

>>8930543
Who are you quoting?
Who told you PoDD was hard? Hardest Touhou to 1CC is SoEW.
please leave.

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>>8931651
orly

>> No.8931657

>>8931656
Classic.

>> No.8931782

What other STGs are good? I'm asking because as a side project I'm making a shmup. Inspiration besides Touhou would be good. The only others I know of are Ikuraga, and I think Gradius is one.

>> No.8931787

>>8931782
Seihou Shuusou Gyoku
Kamui
Samidare

Don't play shit like HELLSINKER

>> No.8931795

>>8931782
Dodonpachi Dai Ou Jou is very good.

>> No.8931879

Yesterday I 1cc'd EoSD normal for the first time.

No matter how hard I try I cannot do it again. I'm even worse than when I was practicing days ago. Yesterday I had gotten through the entire run with only 3 lives lost. All throughout last night and today I can't even get past Cirno anymore without losing all of my lives. I have no fucking idea how the hell this happened.

How do I fix this?

>> No.8931917

>>8931879
That can happen in pretty much any game, really. If you want to know how to beat it, keep trying. Seriously, that's not some trick of the game.

>> No.8931931

>>8931879
You know, I've got my second 1CC with TD, and it was right in my second or third try, after a couple of months. What I did was practice hard games like Subterranean Animism or UFO a lot. I've spent my whole friday and saturday playing only SA and practicing Satori's spellcards and Orin's. Then, I thought I should give a try on easier games because I was already able to reach stage 6 of SA. And I actually managed to easily 1CC TD for my first time, and also I was able to 1CC EoSD with little to no difficulty.

>> No.8931927

>>8931879
Can't get past Cirno after 1cc ? Are you serious ? I know Cirno is quite deadly sometimes but all 3 first stages are really easy compare to stage 4 and 5. Just keep practicing until you can run stage 1-3 without losing any life and save those bombs and lifes for stage 4-6.

>> No.8931951

>>8931927
Cirno never gave me trouble before today, that's the point. I could previously get past her without barely thinking. But suddenly, after finally being able to 1cc the game yesterday, the little skill I had gained from practicing vanished. That's what's so humiliating about it.

Hell, last night I could get through 1-4 without any lives or bombs. Not anymore, apparently.

>>8931917
It has happened to me in other games. I lose all the skill I gain suddenly. However, I never seem to get it back. I become somewhat decent, then become worse than I was when I started, and can't seem to get back to where I was. I'm hoping this doesn't turn out the same but it probably will.

>> No.8932017

>>8929199
Woah, this was like watching myself play a few months ago.

Like others have said, just play more. Your general dodging skills will improve with that. Also learn how to stream bullets, particularly for stage 4. Bullets that are aimed at you can be dodged with only a tiny movement to the side.

>> No.8932326

>>8931782
All Cave games minus Guwange

>> No.8932377

>>8918688
>>8918688
Do you by any chance happen to have more of those?

>> No.8932402
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Who would have though that the worst stage 4 run in the history of forever would feature a perfect Murasa. And it was a bad Murasa too. The RNG went crazy this time. I gameovered on Shou. I had a stage 5 almost as bad. This was a No-Bomb SanaeA run.

It would have probably been a decent run if I had played NBNUFO, but that hasn't been going anywhere lately. I want to get all these NB runs done already. I don't even feel like playing them all that much. I already have RemuA and ReimuB done. MarisaB NB was giving me the same trouble. I kept having practically perfect runs up until Byakuren where I kept loosing them at the last second through some unfortunate disaster. As for SanaeB and MarisaA... ugh. I really don't want to do that.

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>>8932377
I have a few.

>> No.8932415
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Hitboxes.

>> No.8932491

>>8932415
How the fuck is a laser passing through Marisa's hitbox?

>> No.8932560

What's with the hate for those two shots?

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>>8932560
If you are taking about me mentioning SB and MA, it's just that they are difficult and uncomfortable for me. I probably could beat them if I wanted to, I just don't have a lot of fun playing them. I can at least have fun playing with SA or MB, but the other two shots don't have that for me. I have gotten as far as almost beating the game with SA and MB, but I haven't gotten very far with SB and MA, although I haven't been trying very much.

>> No.8932633

>>8932602
Yeah I never liked the feel of SanaeB for whatever reason. I like MarisaA's shot but whenever I bomb it spikes my blood pressure.

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>>8932633
>Yeah I never liked the feel of SanaeB for whatever reason.
Same here.
>I like MarisaA's shot but whenever I bomb it spikes my blood pressure.
That's something you just have to practice. I haven't done any good MarisaA runs in a while. I'm going to try playing her some more. Maybe I'll do some score runs.

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>>8932415
These. I hate these two kinds of bullets most in Touhou. Their lack of collision always messes me up for the shots that actually will kill you if their edge covers your hitbox.

>> No.8933828 [DELETED] 

>>8932415

I sure do love hitboxes.

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>>8932415

I'll never understand the hitboxes in these games.

>> No.8934084

>>8933838
All safe here.jpg

>> No.8934289
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Went back and redid a 1CC of PCB Normal, trying to practice in general so I can move to hard eventually. Did a lot better than previous attempts, and captured all of Yuyuko's cards except for Deadly Dance. I'd never captured the majority of them prior to this. Can someone upload a replay of them doing that card on normal? I still haven't figured out how to capture this one. I'll upload my replay so you can give suggestions. Everything else on Normal I know what to do, just needs a little practice to get it down reliably.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20596

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

>> No.8934334
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>>8934289

>> No.8934505

I've 1cc'd EoSD first (Beat Flan), followed by PCB (Beat Ran then Yukari), IN two times to kill Kaguya a few times and to beat Eirin (Killed Mokou), MoF (Beat Suwako), SA (Took weeks to beat dang nab Koishi), and unfortunately one day I decided to take a short break on 1cc'ing UFO to try out TD and I accidentally 1cc'd on first try. ;_; I did them all on normal. I'm going to do them all over again on hard, and lunatic after that after I 1cc UFO which is hardest game if you ask me, and Nue and Mamizou. I haven't played for weeks, but I'm hoping to get back into it soon.

>> No.8934641

>>8934505
I think SA is harder. I don't really like ufo's gimmick though.

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>>8931787
>Don't play shit like HELLSINKER
hey everyone look at this faggot

>> No.8935296

I've not 1cc'd yet, but I'm hellbent on doing it on normal.
Could anyone give me tips on how to improve myself?

>> No.8935318

SA crashes whenever I beat the EX stage with MarisaA

I can read the dialouge but right as I enter my name to save the record th11.exe has closed unexpectedly.

>> No.8935342

>>8931787

I'm really sad for you anon, really it's not like I'm mad or anything... just sad for you.

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>>8935292
>>8935342

>> No.8935765

>>8935296

>>8919485

>> No.8935768

My first 1cc was cheating. I used Mac at the time, and so I used a program whose name I've forgotten (not Wine) to emulate Windows so I could play Touhou. Some games it played fine; others, not so much. MoF, for example, could only be run in windowed mode, but IN and PCB ran perfectly. EoSD was the weirdest case. Non-extra modes ran in slow motion until I either continued, restarted, quit, or beat the game and started again and made it to Rumia, at which point it would go back to normal speed. EX mode started at normal speed and would increase in speed by 5-10% after the first attempt. So my first lunatic 1cc was on slow-mo EoSD.

My first legit 1cc was MS. I really, really wanna beat SA, but that's not gonna happen soon.

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>>8935768
>I really, really wanna beat SA, but that's not gonna happen soon.
why

>> No.8936065

Yuyuko's Resurrection keeps killing. Is there any good trick to dodging it, or should I just hope for best and spam bombs?

>> No.8936076

>>8936065
You just need to dodge like a boss.

Watching replays might make you a bit better but it's really just plowing through the gaps when they appear.

>> No.8936085

>>8936065
Practicing with Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana makes it easier

>> No.8936620

>>8936065
>>8936076
Thinking of the red waves as single bullets, and concentrating on dodging the first one of each only should make it a lot easier. Not hugging the bottom is essential.
See how HS參謀 does the first red waves www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LIm6rEOMqE&t=45m53s - I'm not suggesting you try to copy him, but it shows the red bullets aren't as scary as they seem. I think it's the same pattern on every difficulty.
Also you can just pop a border whenever the red wave begins and skip anything between 50% and 100% of the whole spellcard depending on how high your Cherry gain per item is (1000 + 100 per captured spellcard).

>> No.8936689
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http://replays.gensokyo.org/index.php?u=anonymous&g=--&p=&t=--&d=--&ch=0

Who is this dude? He has better PCB score than i do without vertical play. And he/she has over 2.5B on easymode of IN. What the fuck, does /jp/ know who this is?

>> No.8936714
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any tips on beating Hourai Doll spellcard?
i watched some youtube clears and almost beat it myself but well, almost.

>> No.8936718

>>8936714
use Youmu

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>>8936689
>What the fuck, does /jp/ know who this is?
Several people use "Anonymous" on the replay archive, but I do know who the one with the good scores is. He uses many names and is generally considered to be the best North American Touhou player. He used to post on /jp/, but he is somewhat retired right now.

>> No.8936733

>>8936689
>What the fuck, does /jp/ know who this is?
Several people use "Anonymous" on the replay archive, but I do know who the one with the good scores is. He uses many names and is generally considered to be the best North American Touhou player. He used to post on /jp/, but he is somewhat retired right now.

>> No.8936743

>>8936733
That's a rather long-winded way of saying "me."

>> No.8936779

>>8936743
Close. It's not me. It's my boyfriend.

>> No.8936782

>>8936779
gayyyy

>> No.8936786

/jp/ as helpful as ever XDD

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>>8935995
Lots of reasons.
I ain't that good.
I haven't had much time to dedicate to practice.
My new laptop keyboard will not input 2 directions at once if I'm also pressing Z.
Money's tight of late, so a gamepad is not a priority.

Eventually, I'll do it, but it's gonna be a long while. Wait for me, Koishi!

>> No.8936825

>>8936819
>laptop keyboard
keyboard might be better than gamepad for some, but Christ, do yourself a favor and proffer something better...
then again, you can cheese MoF and SA even without a decent input

>> No.8936833

>>8936825
SA is one of the hardest you niwaka scum.

You mean IN or PCB.

>> No.8936845

>>8936833
>he only plays on Normal mode!

>> No.8936850

>>8936833
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=19809

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>>8936689
http://youtube.com/user/olAlolilo

Who is this dude? He has better IN score than i do without even playing it. And he/she has over my limits dodges uploaded. What the fuck, does /jp/ know who this is?


By the way, I miss those /jp/ touhou challenges. Pick releated, it's my turtle.

>> No.8936921

>>8936825
You're right, and I know I should. As I said, though, it's currently a low priority.
I do prefer keyboard input--my right hand giving directions and the left just handling F'dM, bombs, and mashing go on Z. For a while I had a USB keyboard, but it had input lag and the keys needed to be pushed farther than what I was used to in order to input at all. I'll figure something out.

>> No.8938757

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20611

I am disappointed. I shouldn't have done that bad on stages 5 and 6. Stages 1-4 were perfect except for a few derps on stage 3 which were quickly brushed off.

It's not complete, but I think it might still be interesting to watch. I'll do a few more runs later this afternoon. I'm a little busy today... and pretty tired. I'll get it one of these days.

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Been trying to get back in the games so I can finally 1cc SA Normal someday.

I'm replaying EoSD normal and I keep getting fucked by Misdirection and other basic fuckups so I get to stage 6 with only one life left and die on Red Magic.

Slightly glad I can still get through Stages 1-4 without dying.

I also always played Marisa so whenever I try Reimu I don't like it at all because she's slow as fuck
Will probably redo PCB and IN afterwards.

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I swear to god, Youmu has been the bane of my existence ever since I picked up PCB. I keep dropping lives to her like a lewd schoolgirl to a beta MC.
I swear to god, are there "tricks" to beating her or what?

>> No.8939244

>>8939224

>>8932408

>> No.8941306

bumpu pantsu

how da 2hus go?

>> No.8941962

Streaming no UFO Lunatic, no bombs, no UFOs.

http://www.livestream.com/Tplays

>> No.8942063

I tend to 1CC games on normal, beat the extra boss and then just sort of leave it.

I have massively lost my edge with them though. Back in college I used to be able to spend much more time on the games and get more 'perfect runs' (in the sense of no deaths and no bombs rather than high scores) but since starting uni I haven't had time for them at all. I recently went back to MoF Extra stage, which I recall being the easiest extra boss for me, and did horrifically. Muscle memory took me kind far enough but my reaction time has become so slow since I stopped playing any games three years ago.

I;m not sure if i can be arsed with putting time into Lunatic modes. From what I understand, Extra is about as hard or slightly harder than hard mode, so I feel there isn't much point in playing that mode once I clear extra.

>> No.8942107

Looping games are the fucking WORST. Thank god someone at Cave realized this when they were making Saidai-oujou. That automatically makes it better than all of the previous Donpachis.

>> No.8943655

>>8942063
Go play UFO

>> No.8943691

>>8942063
>Extra is about as hard or slightly harder than hard mode
Extra is generally somewhere between Normal and Hard.

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http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20646
Here's a No-Bomb run of UFO Lunatic with MarisaB.

Here are my other two No-Bomb runs:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=19298
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=19932

I didn't even plan this. I was doing some NB SanaeA runs and losing them at the last second, so I put one credit in for MarisaB and this is what happened. I'm pretty happy. 6/6 NB UFO Lunatic is a goal. Also, I WANT THAT NBNUFO ALREADY.

>> No.8946256

So decided to play ufo for the first time in a few weeks...Tried marisa A for the first time...Got to the final spell card with no livers, 1 bomb...Think whatever...dont use the bomb at get to the sound where she is dying and think "Oh i'm going to capture it!!!" so instead of bombing and getting the 1cc I die. seriously thought I was about to have a heart attack. Atleast she wasnt in the slowdown after death that I died to before my first 1CC.

Man I fucking hate ufo its so hard.

>> No.8946258

>>8946256
body is still literally shaking and I have a smile on my face for some reason...I can't even type. I need to make some tea.

>> No.8946387

It's funny that i can 1cc IN on Hard but still can't 1cc IN on Normal after 2 tries with solo Sakuya.

The fight with Reimu was really chaotic, everything was red on the screen. I couldn't dodge her orbs and bullets at the same time so i lost 3 lifes to Reimu. I lost another 2 lifes to Tewi by going up to collect power while being immune after dieing at her first spell. Suddenly i lost immune and die, still don't know why the immune so short this time. I ran out of life at Kaguya's last card.

>> No.8946481
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>>8946256
I've had that happen to me countless times. It's a part of Touhou, not just UFO. I lost many of my would-be first 1cc's on every difficulty in the last second. I lost a NBNUFO Lunatic run on the final spellcard slowdown when I was sure that I was going to capture it, because a stray bullet came out of nowhere. That was months ago, and I still haven't recovered.

What you experienced is perfectly normal. All you have to do is keep trying.
>>8946387
I love IN Reimu's nonspells with solo humans. They're very chaotic and fun to dodge. Also, I'm sure that the immunity varies between shots it might even be twice as long with another shot. I'm not sure about IN so much.

>> No.8948685

BUmp

>> No.8948852

>>8946256
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p-NKrKEF9g

>> No.8948856

>>8948852
:3

>> No.8948889

Do you get anything for beating PoFV on normal or higher without using a continue? I always need to use one on Shiki, even if I get to her with like 3 lives I can't do it. Still says I'm clearing it with an continue though.

>> No.8948896

>>8948889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGZ1NG--kUc&feature=player_detailpage#t=960s
I'm not sure if it's even possible to defeat Shikieiki with just one life. It might depend on the shot and difficulty - I'm not sure.

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I decided to have another go at UFO since I've hardly played it. Got to Murasa with maxed lives, so I thought I was doing pretty well. Cleared her nonspells and first two spells without a problem, then I was an idiot and didn't bomb so I ended up dying twice on her third spell and once on her survival. It was still going alright despite a couple of stupid deaths until I got to Shou, where I promptly lost almost everything. When I got to Murasa I felt like it could have been my first 1cc, so I'm pretty annoyed.

Are there any real strategies for Shou or is it all dodging? Her only managable attacks seem to be her first couple of nonspells and her second spell.

And yes, it's only normal mode.

>> No.8950728

>>8950723
Shou uses multi-directional bullets and the only way to beat those is practicing until you can watch all the bullets around you at the same time. It took me a month to get used to that.

>> No.8950738

>>8950728
I hate multi-directional bullets. I'm terrible at looking in more than one direction at a time.

>> No.8950848

>>8950723
Bomb the lasers. Everything else is capture with a bit of practice. I also bomb the one spellcard that is forced movement, I hate it.

>> No.8950884

>>8948896
Certain characters make the AI go full retard. Aya and Marisa instantly spring to mind, and Medicine makes them fuck up pretty often too. It's certainly possible to do it with one life if you're good enough.

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Okay, /jp/, it is time.

Time to play some 2hu.

PCB Extra, ReimuB. Largest graze wins. You have 24 hours.

>> No.8950945

>>8950932
I can barely beat pcb extra not dying.

>> No.8950953

>>8950932
>largest graze
Gross. I don't wanna have to sit around timing out everything.

>> No.8950963

>>8950945
I can't beat PCB extra at all.

>> No.8950966

>>8950963
I haven't even unlocked PCB Extra, because I'm too prideful to do it on Easy Mode and too incapable to get past Yuyuko's last couple of spells.

>> No.8950972

>>8950966
It's not like you can do it on Easy mode anyways.

>> No.8950975

>>8950972
You can unlock extra by clearing easy on PCB, I think.

>> No.8950977

>>8950972
Huh, really? I was told that IN and PCB could unlock it on Extra, and SA could do the same, but it would relock after the next time you failed to 1cc the main game (Unless you did it on Normal or above).

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>>8950932
Was heading for 8k so I guess this is okay. Could probably break 10k without putting too much thinking into it.

Just captured Charming Dick from All Sides, since it is too much for me to handle when timed out. (I once did a pacifist Ran run and it cost me two deaths. Then I gameovered on Tenko.) I'm kind of scarred by Princess Tenko, and I kind of lost it when I died to it. Whatever, 9.3k is okay. I know at least three people who will laugh at this amount at graze, but I'm okay with it. Maybe I'll try again to get that 10k if I have time, within a day.

>> No.8951050

>>8951015
>Charming Dick from All Sides

Lol.

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>>8950932

>> No.8951445

I've only beaten PCB extra once, and right now I can't even get past chen without atleast 1 death. How about something less hard...

>> No.8951560

>>8951445
That had better be on something harder than Normal, because I can easily get through to the fifth stage with zero deaths and 1-2 bombs if that.

>> No.8951564

>>8951560
Uh

Chen is the Extra Midboss too, you know.

I mean I'm the guy that hasn't even unlocked it yet and I know that.

>> No.8951569

>>8951564
Wasn't even thinking about that. Sorry.

>> No.8951953

I've only 1cc'ed on Phantasmagoria - Hard - Reimu.
Haven't even gotten to the end of the other chapters on hard/normal, even using all 3 continues. I beat Scarlet Devil - Normal - Marisa with two continues used, but I don't count that as an accomplishment.

Anyone have an outline for what the "bootcamp" entails?

>> No.8952076

>>8950723
Personally, I would be very ready to bomb at all times when facing Shou, but I probably wouldn't plan too many bombs. It depends how comfortable you are in facing some of her attacks. Personally, I think that only Shou's second nonspell is challenging, but only if she stays too low. Shou is a hard boss, but you can become better by practicing.

Also, feel free to post a replay.
And your pic is my current desktop background.
>>8950848
>I also bomb the one spellcard that is forced movement, I hate it.
It's easy, especially with certain shots. You just have to learn it.
>>8951953
>Anyone have an outline for what the "bootcamp" entails?
I think that would be playing at a much higher difficulty than you are used to for the sake of getting better quickly. For example, someone who usually plays on Normal would play on Lunatic. Personally, I don't believe in the "bootcamp". It never helped me get any better.

>> No.8952446

One of those newfriends to touhou. I played EoSD for a while and enjoyed it, and can 1cc on normal consistently and 50% of the time on hard. Decided to move on to a different one for a bit.

I'm messing around in PCB, but... I'm afraid I don't understand the scoring system exactly. I read the wiki, but I'm afraid I still don't understand what Borders are. Or exactly what affects your Cherry. As well, I see two point items. These pink squares and blue squares... it's all too much for my little brain.

I liked EoSD because it was very simple. I thought I might move past PCB to IN, but that one looks to be even more in depth. So I figure I'll stick with PCB and just figure out how it works.

So any help on the questions I asked in the second paragraph? Thanks in advance. I've been pretty much only sticking to Marisa A, because she's my favorite character, and quite frankly, I'm a bit intimidated by all the options. As you can see, I'm not much of a video game player.

>> No.8952473

Is Triggerheart Exelica any good?

>> No.8952474

>>8952446
borders protect you from getting hit. when you get enough magic pink squares you get a border. If you let the border run out without getting hit you get points. Points give you lives. The end.

>> No.8952479

>>8951953
>Anyone have an outline for what the "bootcamp" entails?
A load of bullshit to put yourself through until you quit the games out of frustration.

>> No.8952485

>>8952446
Shoot unfocused to get cherry, get cherry to get borders (they're the things that make a magic circle thing around you, also invincibility/cherrybomb for one hit), graze unfocused with a border to get cherrymax, repeat.

You don't wanna break the border except maybe in rare instances, for timing or if there's a bootyload of bullets on the screen.

Cherry is gotten through shooting (much more gain when shooting unfocused), as well as from those pink items. Also a bit when you kill a spellcard and the bullets turn into grey or pink items.

Basically, just graze a lot, preferably unfocused, and try not to get hit. Also use Sakuya B.

>>8952474
>points give you lives
Point items, in PCB. Points don't really matter for extends.

>> No.8952501

I'm going to quit playing Touhou soon. For good. There is no reason someone should play as much as I have.

>> No.8952509

BREAKING NEWS!! BREAKING NEWS!! BREAKING NEWS!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gTqnQdmDJU

Hibachi is a little girl in the new dodonpachi.

>> No.8952525

>>8952509
I like how all of the patterns were rehashes oh well.

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>>8952509
confirmed for canon

>> No.8952716

>>8952525
Man, first you got only one washmachine of death. Now you get both in one game!

>> No.8952794

>>8952076
I would post a replay but I'm so frustrated right now that I can't even do her easiest spells.

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>>8952509
>ADADADADADADADADADADADADADAA

>> No.8952851

>>8952838
Anon! What is going on in there!?

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>>8952838
>she makes fun of you for bombing and giggles when you die

>> No.8953285

wich donpachi wud u fuk

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>>8953285
shooty, naturally

>> No.8953372

>>8953297
I'll take ihihihibachi then. That Yuuki Aoi, those fucking giggles and teasing voice.

The fight was really nice too (kinda bummed out that there weren't any original patterns, though). And if Easy was already tougher than DOJ/Ketsui, I can't begin to imagine what Expert is like. Hopefully it's not Zatsuza/Larsa Ultra undodgeable bullshit.

>> No.8953375

>>8953372
It's not like it's particularly hard to be more difficult than DOJ's hibachi. Tiny hitboxes everywhere.

>> No.8953383

>>8952509
dubstep

>> No.8953427

>>8952509
I know they're in a tough spot with business and the market so I can forgive the amount of stupid anime bullshit in that.

>> No.8953439

>>8953427
i am fine with all the anime as long as it rapes the living shit out of a player who just got through all five stages without dying
that is how you do a proper stg boss

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>>8950932

>> No.8953629

>>8951445
Easier challenge: Clear MoF on Normal (or higher). Lowest bombs used win.

>> No.8953646

>>8953629
27

>> No.8953672

Can anyone tell me what the fuck am I supposed to do on StB scene 8-3 (Ran's diagonal amulets)? I always end up getting trapped or killed by spawning bullets.

I can't seem do this card at all... Even goddamn Seamless Ceiling of Kinkakuji wasn't this hard.

>> No.8953684

>>8953672
You don't have to stay focused the entire time, y'know....

>> No.8953685

I used to only 1 CC on normal mode PCB with Reimu B, now I can't beat Youmu except that I play a lot better with Marisa A... is there some logic?

>> No.8953689

>>8953672
>StB scene 8-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CkOfRmPUY4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CkOfRmPUY4

Dodge bullets and take pictures. Also, see if you can make a small route for it. Watching replays and taking breaks also helps.
>>8953685
That's normal. Just keep practicing.

>> No.8954147

>>8953629
0

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>>8953629
0.

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this is quite fun to do at 90 FPS!

>Even goddamn Seamless Ceiling of Kinkakuji wasn't this hard.
pardon?

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World Record holder for Gain in Battle Garegga streaming and yes he likes to crossdress...

http://livetube.cc/kamumya/%E3%80%90%E7%AC%AC5%E5%9B%9E%E3%82%89%E3%81%84%E3%81%A4%E3%81%B9STG%E3%83
%AA%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%80%91+%E7%AC%AC15%E8%B5%B0%E8%80%85+kamumya+%E3%80%90%E3%83%90%E3%83%88%E3%
83%AB%E3%82%AC%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%82%AC%281996%2CRAIZING%29%E3%80%91

>> No.8955243

>>8955223
I like watching this guy play Truxton 2
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/stg2

>> No.8955248

>>8955223
Stream went autist here have this


http://livetube.cc/kamumya/%E3%80%90%E7%AC%AC5%E5%9B%9E%E3%82%89%E3%81%84%E3%81%A4%E3%81%B9STG%E3%83
%AA%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%80%91+%E7%AC%AC15%E8%B5%B0%E8%80%85+kamumya+%E3%80%90%E3%83%90%E3%83%88%E3%
83%AB%E3%82%AC%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%82%AC%281996%2CRAIZING%29%E3%80%91%282%29

>> No.8955252

>>8955248
I am not getting more than a split-second of sound before it has to buffer once more. Is this normal?

>> No.8955256

>>8955252
Livetube is being full autist right now.

>> No.8955268

Stream of arcade cabs in Japan everything from newbie to superplayers

One badass Gradius II player god knows how many loops
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/game-vamos-arcade-iii
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dark560over

>> No.8955272

>>8955268
Jesus, christ those extends...

>> No.8955302

>>8955268
I got a feeling this will be along stream.

>> No.8955298

have all touhous, never beaten a single one, which one's the easiest to start off with?

>> No.8955309

>>8955298
all of them

>> No.8955407

>>8955298
IN

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>>8955061
You are great.

>> No.8956288

>>8952446
>I liked EoSD because it was very simple. I thought I might move past PCB to IN, but that one looks to be even more in depth. So I figure I'll stick with PCB and just figure out how it works.
Oh, there is tons and tons of NICE revelations are waiting for you ahead. Like MoF's bomb system, or like SA's bomb system, or like them damned ufo's, or like those stupid spirits...
Yeah, it'll be fun!

>> No.8956485

>>8956288
>EoSD safespots and hitbox fuckery, unintuitive glitch-based scoring system with star items, and RNG prayer during Remilia
Yeah, the newer games are totally worse!

>> No.8956643

>>8956485
>safespots

Where?

>> No.8956687

Well I THOUGHT Mamizou would be really easy. Fuck those fucking animals and their retard hitboxes, and fuck all the special streaming. Shit boss. Need to go beat yukari and flan again to get my confidence back after 3 hours of pure failure.

>> No.8956729

>>8952446
In EoSD, low end scoring is simple (you are doing it now). Just pick items at full value and you'll get instant score. No plans needed, at least until you step higher into scoring. For comparisons, EoSD patterns are very straight, meaning its solution is clear just from the first glance. Other games may have more attacks that leave you without an escape route at first encounter.

If you look at the wiki, PCB system is even more complex, but the core is simple enough. Get the items by going above point of collection, so you will get them at full value (marked by yellow) and if you get a spiritual border, don't get hit.

IN is even more complex than PCB in the wiki, but for some low end scoring, you only need to get items, kill enemies, and graze. You can learn about time orbs' nature (purple items) but generally the more you get the better your score will be so for now take that as a rule of thumb.

Let's skip about PoFV, StB, DS, GFW, and TD.

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>>8956729

MoF is very simple in concept, from low end to mid-high end scoring. Don't get hit as usual, get items and don't let your faith meter drops. Bombing is the fastest way to restore the faith meter, and the safest way. Be sure not to die as it cuts your faith meter by third, and it hurts you score very much.

SA concept is easy for low to mid scoring. Get grazes, and that graze will multiply your item value and autocollects item which is very helpful as above screen in SA tends to be dangerous, more than older games. Getting hit won't reset your item multiplier so be confident!

UFO scoring concept is the hardest for even low tier scoring. Blue items give you virtually no boost to your score, multiplying them blindly without a plan using a big blue/changing color UFO only gives you meager amount of score. For UFO it's better to forget the scoring system at all than to try to score blindly. The increase of score won't be noticeable until you do hard tricks or plan the entire game, so it won't give you the satisfaction needed from scoring.

There are some aspects that I omit, but that should cover most of the low end scoring tactics. If you want to know more, either consult to the wiki or ask in here.

>>8956643
I wouldn't call these safespots.

>> No.8956919

>>8956729
>>8956732
Thanks for the information. After playing around more in PCB it's not as overwhelming as I thought it was. Because I'm new to the series, the overwhelming factor is just the fact there are so many games.

More on PCB, I've been playing with Reimu B and Marisa A mostly. I tried out Sakuya B but... it didn't work out so well. Other than higher scoring potential, is there any reason for me to practice with Sakuya B? Or should I just stick with the two I'm comfortable with?

>> No.8956923

>>8956919
Just stick with what you're comfortable with. Really, I don't see a need to worry about score until you can clear the game relatively easily.

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