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Because that's cheating.

And that's why Sakuya is the most overpowered character in the Touhouverse.

Easily.

She pretty much does with that one spell card if you get too close. The one that's all whoosh-whoosh-whoosh in an arc.

Because that wouldn't be elegant.

She does.


Well, they say 4A/5A stuff does more damage, but I haven't been able to make it happen, even with rank 0 Magic Star Sword.

Because Reimu would come down on her ass like nobody's business.

Because she'll still get her shit slapped like in SSiB.

>>8896226

Retard, Reimu would be DEAD. Reimu's chillin' on her porch, Sakuya stops time, and when time restarts, Reimu has a knife through her heart, brain, and vagina.

Dead as a doornail.

>>8896236
Sakuya tried to stop Reimu twice, and failed miserably. In her last-ditched effort she said she would make Reimu waste a bomb, but she couldn't even do that. Sakuya ain't got shit on Reimu.

>>8896236
I can see a few outcomes from that:
1. Reimu uses magic plothax and gets out of it unscathed.
2. Yukari pops out of a hole and throws Sakuya into space.
3. She kills Reimu, the border destabilizes because there is no Hakurei, gensokyo implodes. (I don't know if this is canon, actually.)
4. She kills Reimu, the balance of power is upset and all the youkai go crazy doing whatever they like. Gensokyo implodes.

Plus, why would she want to kill Reimu? IIRC, Remilia is fond of her.

>>8896244

That's in the games where the player always wins. In a real life situation, Sakuya would rape her completely. What the hell would Reimu do to counter STOPPING TIME?!

>>8896261
>In a real life situation
>STOPPING TIME

>>8896261
Reimu winning is canon though. When Remilia told Reimu that Sakuya is human, Reimu was even like "OH SHIT I JUST KILLED SOMEONE OH WELL" because she PwNeD Sakuya so hard.

>>8896220
This.
COULD Sakuya use her time powers to instagib everyone? Probably. Will she? No, never. There's no elegance in that.

Stopping time didn't help against the moonbitches so why would it against Reiumu?

>>8896261
Do you even spellcard rules?

I think people have a resistance to her time stopping abilities. I mean, she's entering these spell card battles to win, and it's not like she's against using her abilities to TRY and win. There is no need for holding back, particularly since she was first trying to protect someone else.

They're not as universe-breaking as you lot want to believe.

WHY DIDN'T SIMON BELMONT JUST USE THE STOP WATCH AND WALK THROUGH DRACULA'S CASTLE UNATTACKED AND THEN STAB DRACULA WHILE PAUSED

The point of Danmaku is to give everyone a fair shot at winning. People who are overpowered have to limit themselves to nonlethal and nerfed abilities.

>>8896291
I think it was hypocritical of Reimu to claim spell cards were to give everyone a chance, then fly around killing fairies by the dozen.

>>8896288
because he didn't have enough hearts

Sakuya isn't even that powerful. Sure, she can stop time and all of that, but most final/extra stage bosses have got her beat. Flandre is just flat out broken, Remilia can change fate, Yukari and Ran are both stronger than her, and Yukari can fuck with borders and kill her before she can stop time, Yuyuko's ability is to literally kill people, Mokoue is immortal and would incinerate Sakuya, Kaguya is also immortal, and Eirin is likely not to die of a simple knife wound (also possibly immortal, plus arrows > knives), Shikieiki is the judge of hell, and Komachi manipulates distance (I'd imagine her ability to be the opposite of Sakuya's, what with her having control over space, and Sakuya over time), and has a killer scythe. Don't really see how the goddesses can beat her, though. Perhaps they just kill her from a distance by dropping a mountain on her or something. Koishi is plain broken with her ability, and Okuu would destroy Sakuya and everything around her. Byakuren would probably lose, but Nue would definitely have a good shot. Toyosatomimi LOL. Futatsuiwa is also pretty broken, but we don't know much about her yet.

>>8896298
But fairies just respawn. They can't actually be killed.

>>8896315
I almost put "killing" in quotation marks.

I always under the impression they "died", but "regenerated" shortly afterwards.

You can't affect stopped objects while time is stopped.

Didn't you play Chronomaster?

Is timestop her own magical ability or a technology or gift given to her?

>>8896322
I always think this about time stopping in fiction, but what counts? I mean, if you're arguing the atoms wouldn't move or whatever, would I still be able to breathe? What about my clothes? If I tried to stab a time-stopped person with a non-time-stopped knife, what would happen to the knife?

>>8896335
She's human, so it was probably acquired from a god or something.

Secondary bullshit incoming:
To me, she can stop time and do things like walking, or cleaning normally. But she can't stop time too much while fighting, like if her "stamina" or whatever is too low since she's just a human after all, and that's why she stops time for only a couple seconds in battle, and just throw as many knives as she can in that time.

So basically

immortal = Remilia > Those who won't die to knives > Sakuya > mortal

Stupid faggots, Reimu only wins BECAUSE SHE IS THE MAIN CHARACTER. Unless she has a GOD CARD that will auto-activate when time stops (she probably does, I wouldn't be surprised), she would be dead.

How do her space-warping abilities work?

Will Patchouli's library collapse if she stays away from the SDM for too long?

>>8896314
Continued:
>Marisa
dudewtf power through Master Spark, one of the fastest characters in game (up there with Aya and Youmou)
>Suika
One of the most broken characters in any of the games. Holy shit, look at all of that shit she can do. Sakuya NEEDS Spell cards to be on fair ground with Suika.
>Reimu
Tied with Marisa for most powerful character (since they are the main 2 protagonists). Just generally OP as shit.
>Yuuka
Ultimate magic, retard strength, and can turn simple flowers into slaughtering nightmares of wanton destruction.
>Medicine
Holy shit all of these poisons. Considering how tiny she is, and how she always secretes these toxins, Sakuya would kill herself trying to kill Medicine.
>Youmu
Fast as shit, uses dual swords, and could probably kill Sakuya before Sakuya could stop time.
>Reisen
Being able to turn others insane isn't a power to be scoffed at (still inferior to Koishi in that regard).
>Sanae
Ya got me there.
>Shou
Could probably Buddha magik hax her way out of Sakuya's ability, and uses the spear, which is superior to the knife in 1v1 combat.
>Mononobe
I don't even
>Tenshi
Celestial bull shit, and pretty broken as well. Weather powers are bull shit, and you know it.
>Iku
Might be close. She doesn't make many appearances, and all we know is that she could ZAP NIGGA Sakuya.

>>8896348
Actually I think in soku Reimu has a skillcard which teleports her away and leaves a bunch of amulets flying at the enemy if she gets hit by a projectile

>>8896348
Your timestop just activated my trap card!

>>8896348
Add flan

>>8896335
>>8896342
Luna Dial, one would imagine.

If Sakuya had a bunch of stamina, she could easily best just about every mortal, but her lack of stamina is why her time hax isn't so great. If she ever had the motivation to improve her stamina, she would be very powerful.

>>8896354
Sakuya is a main character

>>8896375
Stopping time is useless in that game too.

>>8896375
Fuck that subweapon. As a kid I was like HOLY SHIT I CAN STOP TIME THIS GAME IS PRETTY MUCH BEATEN. How wrong I was.

Axe is best.

>>8896354
Continued part 2, the return of the faggot:
>Alice
Probably even. Alice isn't broken strong, and neither is Sakuya, but both of them are pretty powerful.
>Chen
If near Ran, who is near Yukari, it wouldn't even be a fair fight. Loses in any other situation.
>Yuugi
Yuugi is pure broken against anyone who doesn't have natural strength (Suika, Yuuka, Kanako, Komachi, Shou, Momiji, and Youmu). Just accidentally away Sakuya's power, and instakill her with retard strength.
>Kasen
I dunno lol
>Moonbitch princesses
From what I can tell, they're probably strong enough to match UFO/TD Marisa and Reimu (assuming that Marisa and Reimu are getting stronger with each release, which I'm pretty sure they do). Would probably hand Sakuya's ass to her, unless Sakuya has also gotten stronger.

tl;dr: You shouldn't judge a character's strength on their stage/ability, as even stage 1 bosses can be stronger than certain final/extra stage bosses (Yuyuko, for example, is probably the strongest character in game, when not fighting immortals, and is a stage 1 boss).

>>8896394
>Axe
Mah nigga. Even though it usually isn't as damaging as the Cross or Holy Water (depending on the game), I just prefer the extra flexibility it grants.

Doesn't moonbitches call Sakuya a thief?

>>8896395
She was a stage 1 boss just so the main character would have a wise person giving some advice about where to start looking, no one said that she is weaker than let's say Kogasa.

>>8896382
She is a playable character in 6 games after she appeared, 3 of which are fighting games, and she hasn't been playable, or even an option, in the regular games for years. Marisa and Reimu are involved in every incident, and are always training to get stronger/getting stronger naturally, respectively. Sakuya is spending her time knifing intruders, galvanizing other maids/Meiling, and being the Devil's Dog. I don't think she's getting much stronger doing that.

You now realize that despite how much of a joke the fandom has made her out to be, Cirno really is one of the strongest characters in the entire game.

>>8896413
Regardless, she's a stage one boss, which proves my point. I was saying that you shouldn't judge a Touhou's power level by the stage they appear in, nor their ability. For example, the ability to control insects is generally broken as fuck, but Wriggle is, canonically, one of the weakest characters in the game. Manipulation of temperature is also pretty strong, but the only characters that can reliably do that are weak. I'm pretty sure a Touhou's strength comes from how experienced they are at using their power/strength to it's fullest. Marisa and Reimu have a lot of untapped potential, for example, but the power they do have still makes them formidable.

>>8896432
in that one comic when cirno was using her fullest potential, marisa had to use like 10 top spell cards at one time just to beat her

>>8896432
Let me guess, you want to bring up that entropy bullshit?

Why doesn't Sakuya's knives cause everybody she fights with to bleed to death?

>>8896447

Keep that shit out of /jp/ we already discussed how stupid it is because both Yukari and Reimu are not in the top tier on it and that is canonically proven wrong on so many accounts

Cirno.

She is the emboidment of the big freeze.

She started as a mere stage 2 boss.

She turned into a playable character for two games and had a game where she was the protagonist.

Next she'll have a game where she is the main antagonist.

After that she'll consume all.

>>8896395
>>8896413
>>8896441

tl;dr: essentially HER SAKE NOT EVEN DROP

>>8896447
>Parsi

PFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffffffffffffffft HAH

>>8896441
If we also take in account that Medicine Melancholy has an incredibly retarded power (that is, manipulating poison) and it's stated that she can't do much with it because she lacks experience and that she's a fairly new youkai, it's pretty much proven that the age and te experience of Youkai actually affect their powers.
Isn't it even stated in PMiSS that older youkai have no interest in humans or weaker youkai, and that they are so strong that they even estabilish some rules to fight each other? That is also a way to prove that the more experienced and older you are, the stronger you will be. Then we can easily understand why some stage 1 bosses, even when possessing ridiculously strong powers, can't do much with them, Wriggle being a good example.

Because she's a Dio Brando ripoff

>>8896493
and that is a contributing reason to why I don't trust tewi

experience + power = power level

The ability to manipulate cold is ridiculously overpowered when you think about it. If you freeze an immortal with a super dense ice that doesn't melt for thousands of years, you could freeze them and put them in a deserted place, keeping them from interacting with anything again for thousands upon thousands of years. How Cirno can defeat opponents:

1. Wait until the person is sleeping or wait until the immortal is occupied/drunk
2. Slowly lower the temperature as much as you can so there's less time from the current temperature to freezing (frog in boiled pot analogy)
3. Freeze THE ENTIRE SPACE that the thing is in
4. While the thing is struggling to break free, continuously super condense the ice for as long as necessary until it stops struggling
5. You're the strongest!

>>8896462
This chart surpasses the quality of the responses in this thread. Likewise, it is most accurate analytically when looking from an ability-only perspective. Therefore it shall remain here.

>>8896514
Makes sense, but tell me how Cirno would think of something like that if you can even distract her by making her a riddle and running away? And besides, if I just hold a torch with me, Cirno won't even dare to go near. Her Power might be high, but her experience, not.

>>8896522

Cirno doesn't melt with fire retard.

>>8896493
Pretty much this. This is why I say that, no matter how strong a power is, if you have no experience in using it, you're worthless. This is why I rank Extra stage bosses like this:
>Marisa
>Koishi
>Yukari
>Futatsuiwa
>Nue
>Mokou
>Suwako
>Flandre
No matter how much you wank over Flan's power (even though she IS really strong), she is the weakest of the extra stage bosses. She has very little experience, and other youkai are keen on not letting her get that experience.

>>8896526
But she is afraid of fire.
>She's weak against fire from torches and other objects too hot to touch.
>If you're holding a torch to start with she probably won't go near.
I'm quoting http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Cirno

>>8896514

manipulating cold is strong, but I don't think cirno's power is of that intensity. like she can control cold, but can she get things down to absolute 0? and over what kind of area? and in what span of time?
i think there must be a difference between the concept of the power and the intensity to which the character can manipulate that concept. otherwise Suika would go around shitting out neutron stars, Sanae "miraculously" winning everything and having the most fortuitous things happen to her all the time, Komachi could warp to any point in the entire universe, etc.

>>8896515
The sole fact Shiki isn't at the top due to her status already make it worse than the whole fucking thread.

>>8896545
Not only that, but why is Yuuka ranked so low? Isn't she one of the most experienced youkai? And isn't she as strong as Eiki, at the point of comparing her strength to Eiki's? That chart is bullshit.

ITT, we argue about imaginary characters that don't exist

>>8896560

>>8896560

it's called having fun. what do you suggest we discuss? something important and real like the current state of the economy or the war in afghanistan?
fuck off

you can't kill anyone if time is stopped because:

F=m * a
a = s
s =d/t

therefore if time is stopped t=0
how does one divide by 0?

>>8896359

Have a macro.

>>8896608
what f means
what dopes m means
what does a and s means
where that d and t came from.


Please respond.

>>8896610
F = force
m = mass
a = acceleraion
s = Speed over time
d = Distance
t = Time

>>8896608
By that logic she wouldn't be able to move while time is stopped. She can, though, so those assumptions must be invalid.

>>8896616
someone call >>>/sci/, we need this mystery solved

>>8896608

That's what I was going to say - only you said it with SCIENCE!

Basically, she can speed up time, but it has consequences for her ability to manipulate matter. She "throws" the knives, but they probably freeze in time the instant they leave her hand, so she has to pause time, "fire" her projectiles, then resume time so they can carry on as usual.

This also explains her "hammerspace" ability; since distance is a function of time (it takes "time" to go from point A in space to point B,) time and space are inexorably linked, hence the term "timespace." So if Sakuya can manipulate Time, she must necessarily have some related influence on Space.

>>8896616
>By that logic she wouldn't be able to move while time is stopped.

And this is the important part. Clearly, she CAN move while time is stopped - but how much of her surrounding environment is similarly effected? If the ability to fuck the laws of physics in the ear is limited to Sakuya, and objects in her possession, then it goes a long way towards explaining why she uses her power in the way we see it.

Alternatively, it's possible she can scale the ability somewhat; as in, move "faster" relative to her local spacetime, but not "time-stop" fast. Explaining how she cleans the mansion up.

>>8896618
Well her knives doesn't move when she stopped time during some of her spell cards back at Embodiment. Seems like her ability is like that Time Stop spell in D&D

>>8896624
Hmm how about her existing outside of local space time, but does not include objects not attached to her or the instant they leave her immediate personal space time those objects she once held with cease to move.

>>8896621
Have no fear, >>>/sci/ is already here.

>>8896618

>timespace

i think you mean spacetime.

also, fuck relativistic physics. i'd rather this not turn into a science-power levels discussion

>>8896624
>If the ability to fuck the laws of physics in the ear is limited to Sakuya, and objects in her possession
There's no way to define "objects in her possession" in a way that wouldn't require violation of the laws of physics for things not in her possession unless she's in a vacuum.

>>8896621

Don't bother, /sci/ is usually boring and NOFUN as fuck. I write sci-fi, and sci-fi writers tend to either ignore science completely and do whatever, or adhere to it 100% like good little autists. But you can respect science without sucking it off: the strict rules of physics themselves have some really interesting possibilities in 'em.

For example, space and time and travel therein. Because of how relativity works, if you reach the speed of light you're effectively time-traveling. Which means.... if you could time-travel, you could use that for faster-then-light travel. Neat, huh?

So consider that. We know Sakuya can effect space, that's how she carts around eleventy billion knives and makes the Mansion bigger inside then it is outside. Perhaps her "time" abilities are an outgrowth of that.

For example, wormholes. A "wormhole," a fucking funnel in space-time. Recall the classic sheet-of-paper experiment, where you fold it up and drive a pencil through the ends. If relativity is an unbreakable law, then you can still warp space-time itself so actual distance traveled - at whatever speed - is the same, but in "apparent" distance you've moved nigh instantaneously because you done haxed spacetime. Sakuya might well be creating a wormhole-like effect in her "personal" space that allows her to pull similar shenanigans.

>>8896652
stfu looser

>>8896652

>I write sci-fi

Unless you're making money off this, you're as much a writer as some tween writing Harry Potter/Twilight cross over fics.

>>8896656
Having problems with your Integral Calculus?

>>8896652
>Because of how relativity works, if you reach the speed of light you're effectively time-traveling. Which means.... if you could time-travel, you could use that for faster-then-light travel. Neat, huh?
No, that's definitely not how it works. Because of how relativity works, if you reach the speed of light you effectively are a photon. Traveling at the speed of light does not enable one to travel above the speed of light. When you say >you could use that for faster-then-light travel you're essentially saying that light is able to travel faster than light because it's already traveling at the speed of light, which is totally false.

>>8896641
>>8896646

And that's where "MAGIC!" comes in.

>>8896669
Having fun in high school with your integral calculus?

>>8896666

Well if you want to be a prick about it - I was badgered into making a paypal account so people could donate me money for the Strike Witches/War of the Worlds crossover AU fanfic I've been writing on /tg/.

Imagine what would happen if I actually *tried.*

Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it, bitch.

>>8896672
http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/fasterlight.php

>Relativity proves that FTL travel is identical to Time travel (to help your research, the technical term for time travel is "Closed timelike curve").

Take it up with them, oh science genius.

>>8896684
>Strike Witches/War of the Worlds crossover AU fanfic I've been writing on /tg/

Links or it did not happen

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/timeStop.htm

I have to come over from tg to tell you this myself?

It's simple, when using magic to stop time you cannot affect other characters, so sakuya stops time, and uses a standard action to ready an attack, like "throw lots of knives" and when her time stop ends, the action is initiated.

It is presumably a immidiate action that allows you to act in stopped time for like one round or so, enough time to stage an attack or do some other critical move.

>>8896701

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=strike_witches_quest

>IT KEEPS HAPPENING

>>8896707
Sakuya is kinda lame. She uses off 9th level spell just to throw a whole bunch of silver knives. What if her enemy is Kanako who clearly has 30/epic damage reduction.

didn't ZUN say that knives don't really do much damage?

>>8896735

Its a spell like or supernatural ability. Rounds per day or recharge like a breath weapon.

>>8896707

Incidentally, that spell description says you act so fast it looks like time has stopped, from your perspective. By that metric, Sakuya is simply "holding back" with her full asskicking ability... and that really isn't a hard one to swallow because so many other touhous are clearly doing the same. For fucks sake, Flan is supposedly capable of just outright fucking obliterating anything she wants via a moment's concentration and Yuyuko can kill anything that CAN be killed at-will.

Spell-card duels are just extremely elaborate games of tag, after all.* For beings that powerful to actually attack each other with intent to kill, well, they'd have to be pissed off something ferocious. And your standard Incident falls far short of that criteria.

*(Though there have been some exceptions, here and there.)

>>8896707
What if she stopped time, then picked Reimu up and threw her?

>>8896205
Okay maybe this isn't on topic, but that artist drew an incredibly appealing elbow. There's something about the little scuffiness to it that fits a working girl like Sakuya.

wow this sure is one dedicated samefag

BECAUSE DANMAKU IS A NONLETHAL GAME
/thread

>>8896770
The spell clearly states that the caster of the Time Stop cannot move objects. This includes picking up the impoverished shrine maiden.

>>8896771
>Okay maybe this isn't on topic, but that artist drew an incredibly appealing elbow. There's something about the little scuffiness to it that fits a working girl like Sakuya.

Indeed. I wouldn't mind getting elbowed by her in the face.

>>8896766
Yuyuko can only kill humans at will, and Flandre doesn't even need concentration to coventrate something, she just has to touch it. Everyone holds back due to spellcard rules.

did the janitor just delete a bunch of comments in this thread that he doesn't agree with? wow, talk about reaching a new low...

>>8896618
The link was already made by ZUN himself. I don't remember if it was in EoSD or one or the extra materials but the SDM is bigger on the inside than it appears on the outside because of her ability to manipulate space just like time.

>>8896735
>>8896744
>>8896756

Pretty much. It's only hax until you consider the comparative bullshit levels in Gensokyo. Similarly Meiling only seems weak until you consider all the touhous who'd easily get their shit pushed in with a simple sucker punch - Sakuya, Patchouli, Marisa, Reimu and probably Alice, just for starters.

In "Spell Card" rules purely physical attacks are pretty much banned, and if you're hit by any danmaku at all you're "tagged out." So Meiling is handicapped in "duels." In a real fight she'd just plow through a few stinging hits and drive her fist right through somebody's fucking face.

It's also worth noting that spell card duel rules stipulate that when your "named cards" are expended, you're defeated, regardless of your "remaining strength." So from the get-go it's a 'game,' of chess, of sorts, and is even called as much by a few characters in canon sources.

Of course, touhous are going to be using whatever magic, attacks, etc. they're accustomed to and like to use, just "non-lethal tournament-legal" versions of 'em. So while duels aren't directly analogous to any touhous chances in open, shit-just-got-real combat, observing them still reveals much of their actual, unrestrained prowess.

>>8896795
Getting banned deletes every post made that day, odds are that's what happened.

>>8896797
Patchy says something to that effect in Reimu's route in EoSD.

>>8896795
I just checked the thread on the archive, and there is only one reply deleted.

>>8896447
that is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

What the fuck man.

>>8896797
>>8896814

Indeed, indeed.

Why does Sakuya use 1911s?

Because they're perfect and elegant. Booyea.

>>8896766
Fag from earlier posting about power levels here.

Sakuya isn't really "holding back", it's just that she hasn't reached any higher potential, and isn't likely going to because of her having to dote over two loli-vampires, who probably have repressed sexual desires like woah, galvanize the other employees, and feed them as well. That takes a lot of time and concentration, so she is likely too tired to be able to adequately let her powers grow. Besides, Flandre's power of destruction only works on things that are capable of being destroyed, and she doesn't have very much experience in using her power either. It's likely that beings, such as Byakuren, Eiki, Komachi, Kanako, Yuyuko, Tenshi, and Yukari are incapable of falling prey to her power. We don't know any boundary of power for her, but it's just as likely that she is only capable of destroying 'mortal' things, like giant slabs of space rock, or humans. It is very possible that youkai may be immune to the power, as well.

Oh, and Kaguya also has a pretty OP power, so long as no actual limitation to it is provided. For all we know, she has an advanced version of Yuyuko's and Flandre's power, or a really shitty and worthless power, like Toyosatomimi.

>>8896780
How can she throw knives, then?
Do they not count because they were in contact with her when she stopped time, which would also explain why they freeze after they're thrown?

>>8896501

I'm pretty sure Tewi is very underrated. Her power is useless in combat, since she can only give luck to others, but she's still a over a thousand years old youkai and have control over all earth rabbits.
She may not be able to fight directly with the others, but she's not to be fucked with. It's a different kind of "power".

>>8896877

Pretty good points. You can't whip out the scouter and assign a fucking absolute point-value to their "power." You can't quantify them in units of asskickograms or something. Raw power, potential power, and how good they are at actually USING it all come into play, including their comparative experience, coolheadedness under pressure, and other factors. Which is exactly why some young punk gets his fucking ass kicked by a 65 year old former SEAL or ex-cop every now and then.

>>8896891
Isn't Tewi even older than the Bamboo forest itself, or something like that? We must also remember that just because that you have experience, doesn't mean you're strong (or I might be wrong, since older youkai tend to be really strong, such as Yukarin, Yuuka, etc.)

>>8896895
>Do they not count because they were in contact with her when she stopped time, which would also explain why they freeze after they're thrown?

Exactly.

>>8896891

Tewi is fucking terrifying. For starters, we've got the "thousand-year-old" thing, and the "control over all 'earth' rabbits." Then there's the fact she actually owns the land Eitentei is built on - Erin et al live there at her sufferance. Also, did I mention a thousand-years-old? She's effectively the god-king of the earth rabbits. If you consider the kind of firepower Cirno can lay down, and she's only an exceptional example of a standard fairy... well, I hesitate to think what Tewi is capable of.

What does she hide behind that jester's facade? God help us if we ever find out.

>>8896921
>We must also remember that just because that you have experience, doesn't mean you're strong

"Any fool can calculate brute strength. That one's been doing it his whole life. Now he's got to calculate what he can't see."

"And fear... what he does not know."

"Exactly."

>>8896941
>What does she hide behind that jester's facade?
An endless supply of carrots and dumplings.

>>8896941
Fucking bad-ass

>>8896921
>>8896941
If Tewi's power is luck then why can't she twist probability and luck so that she wins every Danmaku battle?

>>8896969
she's not human

Because Touhous don't kill each other.

Sakuya does stab people all the time, with time is stopped. She stabs them to death. But because Keine is a cool guy, history will have none of that.

Keine = ZUN
best 2hu

>>8896969
Reminds me of this

>>8896969
Danmaku is skill based.

>>8896969

Xanatos gambit. She loses the duel, but because of some twist of luck it turns out just fine for Tewi in the end.

Also, that fucking picture is becoming a troll unto itself. I'm just so tired of seeing that ugly faggot's fucking face.

I'm late to this but some people seem to forget Reimu can manipulate barriers and space too. During the fight against her in IN and playing as her in SA, she used a spell where she was able to warp around the screen and to the other side moving in straight line. That's more than enough to turn knives away from her even if they did stab her and she decided not to be floating outside of reality for some reason.

>>8896979
I'm pretty sure that Keine's powers aren't THAT strong. I forget where I read it, but she can't just accidentally any unfortunate events away. All she can do is conceal it so no one has recollection of it.

>>8897016

Reimu does that in SA only if teamed with Yukari. Guess why?
Reimu's power is officially "the power to float away from reality". I guess that's by far the most vague Touhou power, but apparently it's pretty strong.

>>8896969
She can only give luck to humans. She can't make herself lucky.

>Logic
>Touhou

Pick one

>>8896543
>like she can control cold, but can she get things down to absolute 0? and over what kind of area? and in what span of time?

Well she can freeze fire, across a screens distance, instantly so she can at least lower temperatures enough to freeze gases/

>>8897004
>xanatos gambit
gb2 tvtropes

>>8897042
Reimu still does it in IN first, alone. Guess why.

>>8897026
She can rewrite history in her hakutaku form. Maybe everything in gensokyo has gone to shit with all the conflicting superpowers, but it was simply rewritten at one point. We may never know.

strngst2h

So who stole Sakuya's tea and food, Patchy's books, and Reimu's donation box?

>>8897064
She's accompanied by Yukari. Trust me, I'm an expert on this subject, and I gathered this data from all of the neckbeards in the world, a la spirit bomb.

>>8897072
Her power is obviously not that strong, since she would've just accidentallied away her defeat, since she was in Hakutaku form in the extra-stage.

can sakuya stop doubles?

>>8897089
>>8897079
I'm this faggot, by the way.
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Keine_Kamishirasawa/Fun_Facts
Yeah, Keine can't actually rewrite history. She can just erase the memory of it.

And to the first post, Marisa team is still better, as dolls + raw power is a pure rape train.

>>8896969
>frodo.png

Stop that. There are no plot holes in The Lord of the Rings.

>>8897100
The Fun Facts section of the bad wiki is not something you want to cite.

>>8897120
It might be over-run with secondary faggots, but it is usually correct with its facts. I'll go and try and dig up the actual source, though.

Sakuya is the only character with a realistic power compared to all the others.

>>8897133
>Time stopping
More realistic than
>Affinity to light and heat magic
>Manipulation of fire
>Controlling insects
>Ability to control dolls
>Being super smart

Right.

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All from a single comment by "he who must not be named", hence why it is the only post in this thread that was deleted when his GET thread got banned again. Why does that fag cause more trouble on this board than anybody else?

>>8897144
i think /jp/ is secretly deredere for him.

>>8897144

what are you talking about?

>>8897155

His name is an auto-permab& on /jp/ now, including the unicode characters, unless they unbanned it. I don't want to risk it.

>>8897159
Now I'm actually curious, though I think I already know. Can you imply it or something?

>>8897159

NSJ? Moetron?

>>8897159
KoG?

>>8897159

Hi, I have absolutely no interest in this thread but I just stopped by to say

Bullshit.

>>8897160

"_ _ _ sent me.", _ _ _ being a certain GET faggot, is an autob& phrase on /jp/ now. Don't believe me? Try typing it without unicode characters and post your ban message here.

>>8897166
Oh, ok, good.
I'll pass on the ban, thanks.

this thread is now officially fake n' gay.

>>8897166
you're lying, but i'm too scared to try it since i'm on a static ip atm

>>8896968

.hate to mix in a little /co/ but originally Scarlet witches power started of as probability manipulation and we all know what happens when something beat very low odds right? we call that many things but usually "luck". And considering what SW has done to the ENTIRE Marvel universe recently yeah....OP as fuck, now you ask what does that have to do with Touhou?

Well Tewi's basic ability is pretty much the same thing however she's only stated only being able to use it in the bamboo forest one could assume at full power Tewi with homecourt advantage could reality warp the hell out of the touhou verse with probabilty/luck much like SW and the MarvelU you might be on to something.

>>8897166
if it isn't >>8897163 then i'm lost

>>8897166

somebody who can reset their ip try this, i'm now curious

>>8897172

no. tewi can only grant luck to other people, not herself so it wouldn't help her out.

also, where is it mentioned that she can only use it within the bamboo forest?

Sanjeruman.

>>8897166
i don't think anybody is stupid enough to do that and post a ban message just to get banned again bro

My post contained a banned URL.

I have now been banned for one day (:

Kind of wish it was a perma ban

>>8897193
You are so amazing. Really. Congratulations man.

>>8897193
screencap??

>>8897193

Oh my god ARE YOU A HACKER????

Can I have your autograph plzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>8897141

yeah, obviously.

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