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Do we care? No.

This is what drives me nuts about translators. They're not doing it because they enjoy the work, or because they really love the game, or because they want to contribute to the community, or spread awareness of this type of game, or anything.

They just want their cock sucked.

>It's up to you if you want to die a slow, painful death by script.

BRING IT ON BITCH, I BRAVED GORE SCREAMING SHOW WITH ATLAS, I CAN TAKE YOUR MOE BLOBS!

And of course, now that there is a leak, maybe someone will edit it, redo a few scenes, etc.

You can't win fans by promising a super-awesome product and repeatedly failing to deliver.

>>885265

>I hope everyone enjoys the shitty patch that's floating around. I'm going to take my sweet time editing from now on.

>>885272
shitty patch today > awesome patch in two years or, more likely, never.

NAGATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Doesn't matter, if they take their times someone else will take what's been released and do it faster.

I CAN TASTE THE BUTTHURT

>>885272
>I'm going to take my sweet time editing from now on.
That has to be the funniest things I heard in ages. Is there any translation project ongoing on the net which has been slower than Kanon? How could he possibly go any slower even if he cut off both his hands?

If I ever translate a VN or something, I'll have /jp/ edit it.

YOU HAVE MY WORD

>>885305

It's impossible for it to go any slower than it already is without staying completely still.

>>885305

Shuffle! ?

>>885332
It dosent get slower then this.

>>885332
The translation project for Kanon is much older than the one for Shuffle though.

>It's shit like this that makes the team lose morale. People want to pass this off as even being somewhat close to what it'll look like.

I'm pretty sure everyone on /jp/ is aware this patch is a piece of shit, yet is just following the golden English visual novel rule: We play what we can get.

>you're not entitled to a fucking translation either.

After all these years of waiting for this damn patch? Oh yes. Oh yes we are.

>I'm sorry for being really pissy about this, but there is a team that's been working hard to do this and they've been really slow because they have like....3 people working on it and most of them have lives. I actually got recruited onto the goddamn editing team because the head translator was begging for people. And this has pretty much shot the morale of the team to hell. The head translator is flipping, the guy who's heading the project is pissed as all hell at the moment. So yeah, it's pretty fucking irritating to see this being spread around. And before you start whining like little bitches, nobody's even getting fucking paid for this

I bawwed

>>885416
Oh, really? Then can you go leak Duke Nukem for us? After all ,we're entitled to it, right?

Yes.

>>885451

Even the leak for Duke Nukem Forever has been constantly delayed.

>>885451
Duke Nukem Forever... have been waiting longer for that or for Kanon? I'm not sure.

>>885451

One of us will have to get a job at 3D Realms, first. Are they hiring?

>>885451
That's not the same, and you know it~.

remind me again who it was who leaked the fucking patch?

>>885474
We aren't sure but I'm going to guess it was someone on the team. That seems like the most likely answer.

>>885474
This

If there was a leak, it was because someone on the team was pissed off about what the rest of the team was doing, and they released it. Don't blame those who have been waiting years for the translation, blame the leaker, unless you want to fault people for wanting to actually play the damn game.

>>885474

Anonymous will devote his life to finding the perpetrator and making sure he gets what he deserves!

HAELEEEEEEEEETTTHHHHHHH

>>885477
Wouldn't not be surprised if someone has been befriending the team members for months and months to get a hold of this translation to leak it. Even princess maker 2, which was translated for commercial release, was leaked out by the author when it was realized it would never be released. It is travesty to the entire community that Kanon was not released out so that someone else could finish it, until now. One must assume the translator cares nothing for fans of the VN and only for his own ego.

>>885497
>Anonymous will devote his life to finding the perpetrator and making sure he gets what he deserves!

Well, if the patch was working, it would be more cause for translator rage.

Translators are the most butthurt race of humans ever.

translators seem to often misunderstand

We are not a fan of the translator, we are a fan of the game.

damn, doesn't allow comments unless you are a member of the community

Editing has taken a fucking long time at a snails pace, if you don't want people to complain, don't make them wait YEARS.

>>885530
The original leaked patch works fine but there is a further along edited version working on getting working.

>>885497

>I'm going to take my sweet time editing from now on.

Two weeks later, anomymous finished editing.

GOOD END

>>885537
This.

Also, where's my motherfucking Air translation?

>I'm going to take my sweet time editing from now on.

Two weeks later, Anonymous finished editing.

GOOD END

>>885567
Or:

Three years later when no one cares, official patch comes out with Key approval.

BAD END

>>885582
>As far as I know, we were going to go ahead with a patch even without Key's approval. That's just something Haeleth wanted to do but none of us on the team worried about it.

>>885587
Bullshit.

>>885567
lol with the lazy people on /jp/ it'll never come out. But I don't care since I'm never going to play this game

I understand why translators would mind getting their unedited shit out there, but you can't really blame the fans for taking what they can get when it's taken this long.

Either way, KEY still sucks though, translated or not.

>>885567
Now the work up to date is out any group that wants to can pick it up and finish it off. There were alot of people who were thinking of starting translating Kanon because this was taking so so long but didn't want to start and then find this suddenly finishing. Now that is not a problem. Who gives a fuck what the original group do now.

>>885599

If I ever decide to play this, I'll edit it as I go.

>>885607
I give a fuck if they actually release something in the next month or so. After that, they'll pretty much be irrelevant faggots. Anon or Hongfire will finish this before they do, I'm sure.

>>885619
>I give a fuck if they actually release something in the next month or so.
Would be funny if that actually happened. Reminds me of anime fansubbers taking weeks and weeks releasing nothing and then suddenly spam releasing an episode a day once another group catches up. These egotistical people don't like it when they become irrelevant, they don't like it at all.

>>885632
And just like getting the UBW installer because of a leak, we'll get our official Kanon patch because of this leak.

>>885220
Livejournal.com:Butthurt central.

Things like this bring tears of joy to my eyes. Kudos to whoever leaked the thing, it's about damn time.

update from the site

>All of our work is being done with Haeleth's approval. This is our project now since he no longer wants to work on it and handed it down to us. The big difference with this leak is now any and all sorts of things can be done with any one's approval at all. Which is what you're doing. So it's a bit hypocritical to accuse us of not having it in the first place.

>If you worked on your own translation project and someone you trusted leaked it for all the masses to do as they please, without any acknowledgement of your hard work, how would you feel?

>So instead, do you think it's right for 4chan to take our patch and re-release it without said acknowledgement either? It's so much easier to be the one to screw than it is to be the ones screwed, isn't it.

>You didn't know we had Haeleth's approval, did you? All you had was your imaginary facts that you used to justify your whining. "I never thought it'd see the light of day," indeed.

>>885900
All the projects I work on are on public wiki sites and I wouldn't mind if any anon would take my work and do as he pleases. My official release could be better than his, or anon could do a better job than me.

>>885900
the tears, they taste delicious

My thread and update has been referenced here. It seems the translators are not happy. I did not "credit" them because I was unaware of exactly who did it. For this, they have my sincere apologies. Indeed, an apology is nothing without action. I will take the prompt action of removing what I can remove within my power. The RS link in the LJ thread that I uploaded, I will remove. It is fortunate for the translators that my effort was partly in vain due to my version ending up broken -- for this I am quite thankful. I am one to commend effort, and I can see that the effort made by the team is indeed great. Slow or not, I will respect their reaction by ceasing my work on this until further notice (probably never).

My update is partly broken, but leaves many ends to be resolved with relative ease to the original leak. I'm sure anybody with enough interest could grab it regardless of my removal, but hopefully the action will suffice.

I eagerly await the final product. I won't even play until it's finished (partly because I can't!). Good luck on your effort, and I hope that the recent events have not deterred you from your work completely.

(continued)

>>885900
>You didn't know we had Haeleth's approval, did you? All you had was your imaginary facts that you used to justify your whining. "I never thought it'd see the light of day," indeed.

Wait, we are suppose to know what conversations they have in private?

>>885995
The RS is hereby removed. While I will have no direct part in the release of further derived works, I will still offer help in others' effort of doing so as a neutral party. My actions are purely on principle, while the data is still blatantly available.

To those of you that consider this a loss, feel free to just contact me and get me to help you do it yourself. You can continue from my update and I will be happy to assist. Of course, such a task is indeed very difficult from a technical standpoint. While the final product may be playable, automatically extracted RLdev source code is often no good to work with.

Anyway, I hope that eventually people will be able to enjoy a proper patch. There was brewing idea of an anonymously coordinated editing effort. While I am still happy to assist, it might be an idea to instead offer your help to the original translators.

In short: I'm scrapping my effort and removing what I can. Worry not, since my release was broken anyway, and a fix by me would still be of crappy quality. Patience is important.

Note: I'll still lurk on #kanon-en/Rizon for a while if people want to yell at me. I feel bad for facilitating what was clearly unwanted by the original translators, so I'm not going to do any more releases. While I disagree with the principle of being against those who extend works, I respect it.

Sorry also to those who may have been awaiting updates from me.

>>885900
>You didn't know we had Haeleth's approval, did you?
Yes we did, it is written on the front of the site.

>"I never thought it'd see the light of day,"
We wait years and years and get no translation, of course we didn't think it would see the light of day. Now it has and will forever see the light of day.

>It's so much easier to be the one to screw than it is to be the ones screwed, isn't it.
Only by own your sad standard have you been screwed. We, as any fans, just want to play the translated game and we have waited a very long time. If you felt the same then you would have provided all your work to anyone else who wished to continue the project. Thus why should you be at all upset with this leak, you can still continue and release the translation and if you fail or take to long we will finish it.

You took it on yourself to publicly translate this project for fans and we as a community trusted and supported you in this task. As such many groups who would have lovingly completed this translation worked on other projects trusting it was in good hands. You in turn betrayed that trust hoarding your translation for years so it would not see that light of day, while promising that it would be coming. It is we, as a community, that were screwed by you.

>>885999
>I feel bad for facilitating what was clearly unwanted by the original translators, so I'm not going to do any more releases.

Pussy.

someone host the file he took down

>>886009
The same file on other hosters.
http://tinyload.com/c/MYrWI
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7ANMWWY2
http://www.filefactory.com/file/3607e1/n/TinyLoad_com_File_214325922kanon-en-2008-06-24_tar_bz2

<SAlpha> You know, I can't help but feel that this is all an elaborite setup by NDT to do exactly what I was saying: Satiate the appitites of people who wanted a Kanon patch.
* MhMRSATORI sets mode: +o SAlpha
<@SAlpha> The chat, the glitching at that one certain scene...
<@SAlpha> It all fits.
<@SAlpha> They intentionally broke the code so that it wouldn't work.

>>886041
would you look at that...

>>886041

...Well, huh. Someone posted what I said in the chat.

>>886041
You people overthink simple things.

Who is Haeleth and what do people care if the project has his godly dickseal on it or not? Put your name in the ending credits or whatever if you did the work. Or announce it on your website or whatever, it's not like a terrorist bombing that 7 groups claim to have orchestrated.

Anyone working on hammering out the Kanon bugs?

>>886168

Sorry, the art's not a bug. They really look like that.

>>886168
I hate to be the guy to say this, but you'll get most stability from the official release. I might assist if it still isn't done in two years or something though.

Also, I would like to point out that while I removed my stuff, I think it is wholly unprofessional and ultimately counterproductive to halt the editing/translation, should the group so choose. Man up and prove everybody wrong with quality, not wit.

Right, time to sleep for real now.

>>886178
I lol'd.
Well played anon, well played.

>>886201
>I think it is wholly unprofessional and ultimately counterproductive to halt the editing/translation, should the group so choose.

But that would involve them not acting like children, which most groups are incapable of doing.

Why is there so much butthurt bitching over what is, initially, an illegal act? Why are they pretending they have some sort of legit standing? I don't get it.

>>885900


>All of our work is being done with Haeleth's approval. This is our project now since he no longer wants to work on it and handed it down to us. The big difference with this leak is now any and all sorts of things can be done with any one's approval at all. Which is what you're doing. So it's a bit hypocritical to accuse us of not having it in the first place.

>If you worked on your own translation project and someone you trusted leaked it for all the masses to do as they please, without any acknowledgement of your hard work, how would you feel?

>So instead, do you think it's right for 4chan to take our patch and re-release it without said acknowledgement either? It's so much easier to be the one to screw than it is to be the ones screwed, isn't it.

>You didn't know we had Haeleth's approval, did you? All you had was your imaginary facts that you used to justify your whining. "I never thought it'd see the light of day," indeed.


from the site

>The Kanon translation project originated from Haeleth. We are continuing Haeleth's work with his knowledge and temporary approval, until Key has been contacted regarding an authorized translation.

>We are continuing Haeleth's work with his knowledge and temporary approval

>>886243
They believe that people who download fansubs without approval will not download a patch without approval.

> If you worked on your own translation project and someone you trusted leaked it for all the masses to do as they please, without any acknowledgement of your hard work, how would you feel?

1. I wouldn't hype it up like a fag, so noone would know of it before it was finished.
2. I would use an open development process with my work available all the time.
3. I would release it anonymously.

Am I the only one who's going to download and patch Kanon just out if spite? I don't even like Key.

>>886290
This how the Clannad and Umineko patches are being done

>>886308
And other patches.

>If you worked on your own translation project and someone you trusted leaked it for all the masses to do as they please, without any acknowledgement of your hard work, how would you feel?

Aw, man, how would you feel if you made a game and then a bunch of people on the other side of the world decided they would take the script of it and translate it to English as they pleased. Just completely promoting pirating of the game. How would you feel?

>>887034
Feels good, man.

>>887034

feels good man

Anybody who doesn't support leaks can go get fucked; it's only vanity and a desire for recognition that keeps these fags from simply posting their work on a scene-by-scene basis anonymously.

>I'm one kind of people that is definitely not happy about this matter.

>Put aside the matter how certain someone obtain this unofficial patch,
>How could someone leak the patch while the other party working hard for finishing the translation?. (curse you)

>If I was a part of translation team, I would definitely stop the translation right away.

>This case only make translator less motivates for continuing translation project or to start a new one.

>Just know the crime who leak this patch commit double sins. 1 for disregard haeleth , 2 for disregard ndt.

Wow. This complaint is even more shitty than the unedited Kanon translation.

>>887158
You actually understood that?

>>887158
ESL

>>887168

Well, >Just know the crime who leak this patch commit double sins. 1 for disregard haeleth , 2 for disregard ndt
is still a little fuzzy. The crime is a double sin, what?

>>887034
>Hey Anon, I'm asking you to show some empathy
>Anon
>empathy

:3

>>887158

YOU... YOU...

DOUBLE SINNER!

>>887239

>How could someone leak the patch while the other party working hard for finishing the translation?. (curse you)

It's a mean mean world.

>It's so much easier to be the one to screw than it is to be the ones screwed, isn't it.

Why of course it's easier to penetrate than me penetrated. Silly bitch!

>It's so much easier to be the one to screw than it is to be the ones screwed, isn't it.

Why of course it's easier to penetrate than to be penetrated. Silly bitch!

>This case only make translator less motivates for continuing translation project or to start a new one.
I DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND THIS. I can't fucking wrap my mind around it. How can the response be anything but at most mild annoyance?

>>887404
This whole ordeal will only discourage the translator from finishing the patch or contributing to new translation projects in the future.

>whoops my bad sorry,

>So the story goes back then when haeleth first time do kanon translation,
>(assuming we skipping the story far ahead)
suddenly he decided for discontinuing kanon translation for reasons like it will not bring benefit for key since they didn't provided enough distribution channel for the product a.k.a the product began to disappearing from the market. Meaning you need to a) download it b) get it from yahoo auction (this mimic mutio)

>Some time after NDT took his earlier work and continue the translation with his temporary approval.

>So the crime who leak this patch commit two sins since either he didn't get approval from haeleth or NDT.

>Not that I care anymore I got english patch or not since I had given hope for this long time ago.

>Pardon,

...

I STILL DON'T GET IT.

I bet this is the guy on the translation team who speaks the language the game is in.

>>887404
It is hard to understand but there core desire deep down is to get there e-penis sucked good and hard, not just to have fans play and enjoy the game. If it is not "them them them" with people begging them to finish it and saying how great they are then they don't want to bother doing it.

>>887420
What ordeal? The patch was leaked, was what they were working on huge secret? What does it matter? Does it slow down there editing (can't go any slower)? There is no reason AT ALL apart from there own ego.

>>887449
FANTASTIC English. Carry on.

>>887455
>there
WHY DID I HAVE TO AGREE WITH SUCH AN IDIOT?

>>887489
Just be happy he's not on the same level of grammatical errors as Yutief8.

I don't give a fuck about Kanon or their translation patch, but this is hilarious drama. If working on the translation patch is such a thankless chore, then why they fuck did you start? Do these guys work for that one doujin translation group tries to force everyone to use their IRC channel to get their stuff? D-W or such I believe; and they did the same girly bitching when their stuff showed up elsewhere. What's wrong with these people? It's not your product to being with. All you did was edit some text. Get over yourselves.

>>887663
The life of a translator is one filled with much woe.

>>887663
>Do these guys work for that one doujin translation group tries to force everyone to use their IRC channel to get their stuff? D-W or such I believe; and they did the same girly bitching when their stuff showed up elsewhere.
No.
>What's wrong with these people? It's not your product to being with. All you did was edit some text. Get over yourselves.
Each person shares their own opinion, don't group all the members of the group in the same bucket.

Jesus fucking christ....

Faggots should have done it like Baka-Tsuki's Clannad Translation.
Sure everyone has already played through Clannad and they haven't even released it yet.

Seems to me that the drama it's funnier that the patch itself.

>>887663
> All you did was edit some text. Get over yourselves.

Yeah, assholes, get over it already. All you did is translate/edit an 850,000-word document, how dare you expect to be credited for your work! Get back to your computers and finish that thing quickly before my self-entitlement reaches a truly critical level.

>>888489
How are you not being credited for it? More people know who the fuck you people are than they did before.

>>885220
A person from livejournal linking to 4chan.

Massive fail. Now you know why /a/ and /jp/ is being run by newfags.

DOOOOOOOOOORAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>885995
>>885999
DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS

STREISAND EFFECT, GO!!!

http://rapidshare.de/files/39824334/1214325922kanon-en-2008-06-24.tar.bz2.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/124879650/1214325922kanon-en-2008-06-24.tar.bz2.html

>>888708
hahaha what.

So this one works now?

>>886007
YHBT

:D

hey espr how's the sandbox?

>>888816
sandbox?

>>888862
no

>>888708
oh you

>Who is Haeleth and what do people care if the project has his godly dickseal on it or not?
Seriously, this is why the project I'm on will always be Anonymous. Fucking epenis fags who translate for ep3n0r purposes

>>888816
I'm talking to him now. Its hot, dry, and dusty.

Can't wait with the Sensei Daisuki 2 English patch leak so that guy can stop having us suck his cock.

This shit is hilarious, what a bunch of pretentious asshats. Oh noz my illegal translation got leaked now I'm going to pout about it despite everyone knowing who made the translation. And people are going to play the game we wanted to get out there! But they may stop sucking our e-penis, NOOOOOOOOO!

>>889286

Who's going to leak 7%?

>>889295
I don't know but that guy is somehow pissing me off.

>>889286
I would gladly suck a cock if they would finish it..

>>889299

Pisses me off too. If you want to drum up interest for your project make some fucking progress on it instead of reposting a "DOES /jp/ LIKE THE LOLI EROGE?" thread every fucking day.

>>888489
When you announce a project like this, you form a contract with the community who expect you are acting in good faith and intend to follow through on your promise. If you can't do it in a reasonable amount of time or lack the resources to do so, you should admit it and allow someone else to continue the work you cannot do.

>>888489
If I do volunteer work, I don't except my fucking picture in the paper or such. I didn't ask them to do this, I don't care if they finish. So don't act like you're a god for doing this. Especially when it's not even done.

>>889300
spoiler: I don't want you to suck my cock, which is why there's no name of anybody involved in the project and probably never will.

>>889312
This, what the hell is so hard to understand about this?
A lot of translators and fansubbers as well seem to not get that we're not fans of them, we're fans of the product.
If you don't give two shits about the community and the only reason you're translating is to get your epenis sucked then you shouldn't be doing it.

>>889312
>you form a contract with the community
yes, but always remember that the people doing it have their own lives (lol). it's a promise that you should keep (if he believes it so) but at your own pace.

>>889312
This reminds me, what happened to that Devil on a G-String translation? Wasn't one guy 0.5% through it?

>>890663

He's making pretty good progress. Last time I checked it was around 10%ish I think.

>>888708

...Well, damn it.

Just so people know, this trip is widely known on /prog/ and has been forever. I'm actually surprised that it took this long for someone to pretend to be me.

>>890919
lol and I thought you meant you were trolling to make peoples make MOAR stuffs out of it

>>891203
I was under the impression that not all translators would throw childish shit-fits and impede their work in spite of their fans. Still, I wasn't trolling.

Also stop bumping this thread, it links to a patch which is broken and is horribly misleading.

>>891251
>Also stop bumping this thread
stop BAWing moralfag

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGYYYYYYYYYYY

>>891251
lol fag

Why are they so pissed off about the leak itself? I don't get it. They were going to release it anyway, what's wrong with people seeing it before its finished?

>>891498
Less cocksucking.

>>891498
they're underage faggots that's all

>>891532
I wish they were, their behaviour would be more justifiable.

I only wish my other car...

...was a cdr.