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8885496 No.8885496 [Reply] [Original]

What's the point of living if we're all going to die soon anyway? There's no purpose for continuing to live, and there's no concrete answer for what happens to our minds after death, if anything.

>> No.8885502

Then why are you alive?

>> No.8885501

It's in the journey, not the destination.

>> No.8885505

I can see you finally reached puberty.

>> No.8885511

There's no less point now than if you were truly immortal, but who gives a shit

>> No.8885516

oh look its this thread again

yawn...

>> No.8885519
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8885519

What is the point of being immortal if the universe is finite ?

>here's no concrete answer for what happens to our minds after death, if anything.
want to find out ?

>> No.8885520

I asked myself that question when I was 6.

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eat some shrooms op

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>>8885501
My journey is completely mundane, I have absolutely no purpose, if I died I would probably have more purpose as a corpse. I'd much rather not have come to existence at all in the first place.
>>8885502
Because it's painful to die. I'm hoping to nullify the pain and hopefully prepare for a quick death, but so far it's not looking too good as I am still very scared.
>>8885505
Oh mighty adult, please tell me your secrets.


>>8885511
I've thought about that too, interesting. If we were immortal, then eventually we would run out of things to do eventually. I'm not so selfish that I would ask immortality, but I would like some kind of purpose, but in a different world. There's nothing here. It's like a punishment.

>>8885519
>>8885520
How do you guys cope with this issue, then? Are you simply going to ignore it until you die? I would love to be able to, too, but some reason this has been bothering me again, and I can't seem to get it out of my head.

>> No.8885536

>>8885519
>the universe is finite
[citation needed]
anyway, the universe is constantly expanding and changing, so assuming you can only be in one place at a time, you will always have something new to see.

>> No.8885537

Are you on loony pills, by any chance, op?

>> No.8885543

>>8885531

If you're too afraid, commit suicide by old age.

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>>8885496
Like someone said before me in this thread its the journey thats counts not the destination.

but ofc the journey has no meaning to you if you spend your life sitting infront of your PC complaining how the world is against you and everyone is evil and you are building walls inside your head to protect yourself from the outside.

Try to find something you enjoy to do in your life or try out new things , maybe you will enjoy them.

>> No.8885550

>>8885531
You have yet to mature or for that matter come to the conclusion just about anyone else in their right mind should have, in that life is best spent living, however that may be.

You're here for a relative blink of the eye, but why not spend it experiencing what there is to offer.

See, I say that while I sit here in front of my computer all day for years, but I'm still perfectly content and at times even happy. Maybe I'm just simple-minded

At any rate, don't use Chen being cute to accompany your existential ramblings.

>> No.8885554

>>8885531
>it's painful to die
Well no, it's the living up until the moment you die that's painful.
And if you're not going to kill yourself you're probably going to turn old and infirm, which is much more painful than cutting your wrists and bleeding out in a nice warm bath.

>> No.8885559

>>8885554
I'd rather have someone kill me than to die a woman's death.

>> No.8885586

>>8885536
time limit due to entropy & shit.

Well, since our universe was born out of "not our universe" it's safe to asume it's not the only occurence of it, unless it's a non reversible process.


>>8885531
>How do you guys cope with this issue, then?
I know I'll get an answer sooner or later, but since it's unknown, I better enjoy what I have right now and die with no regrets.

I tried to find out, but someone stopped me, so I might as well go on for now. Also, find answers yourselves, you moron. If you can't ge the answer yourself, you don't deserve it, and wouldn't understand it anyway.

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>>8885537
Nope, a small dosage anti-depressants and benzos and ADHD meds a few months back don't really count. I knew someone who was on a heavy dose of anti-pyschotics though.

>>8885543
>>8885554
That's what I am gravely afraid of. But I don't have the courage to take the first step in ending my life.

>>8885548
>>8885550
I was relatively happy for a while now. I found some things I really like. But I don't know. I just became dissatisfied after a while, especially after reading some VNs, specifically muv-luv for one. It only happened recently however, before this I was actually happy I suppose. I don't hate anyone or the world even, I'm just unsatisfied with all the possible choices I have in this particular world, none of them are worth living for. I believe I am also simple minded, and that's why I am so upset because I can't understand anything anymore. I'm hoping to get some more insight from like-minded people, and I still need more. Perhaps just killing myself is not the answer I'm searching for, but it doesn't look like there is much else to do. Finally I apologize if I sound like a bottle of angst, I just have no one to talk about this since my insurance coverage stopped covering my therapist.

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>>8885588
I see now ,maybe I was little too harsh on you , but its nothing strange that people lose interest in things they like.
But still if you enjoyed it even a little , you can look forward to find something again that you can enjoy.I am not telling you go outside get drunk , get a girlfriend or something like that, just take it slowly and search for things that you have interest or try out totally new things.

Suicide will bring you nothing honestly, you don't have to understand how the world works or people arround you to enjoy your life.

>> No.8885627

>>8885588
Likelyhood is that it will pass.

How long ago did you read it, its common to feel down after reading something you get in to, happens to me all the time, even with my happy go-lucky nature.

moreover I can't stress the "Perhaps just killing myself is not the answer I'm searching for". "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, and it honestly sounds even worse when your reasoning is little more than "I'm bored with life"

You're simply too young

>> No.8885639

While we're blogging, have any of you ever written a CV?

I have no idea what to write as a personal statement. I know there are a million guides, but they all say things like "highlight your personal achievements" or "sell yourself as a hard worker". What if I have no achievements, experience, or positive qualities whatsoever?

>> No.8885656

>>8885639
yes for my girlfriend , I did send it today.
basic thing on CV is make it simple but not too simple , it should be easy to read and easy to understand , but the quality should remain

>> No.8885673

>>8885656
That's great and I get what you're saying, but what do I actually put?

"Hello I am in my twenties and I have never worked a day in my life. I am miserable as fuck and will probably quit any job after the first day. If I don't have a panic attack from talking to you, I will be awkward as hell and you will regret ever considering me for the position. I'm looking forward to working with you!"

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>>8885673
You can always lie , you dont have to be honest about everything, just try not to lie about things that they can check easy , also it depends what kind of job you want.

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>>8885624
I suppose. I guess I'm blowing this out of proportion Like I said, I'm probably too weak-willed to end my life with my own hands.. There's nothing I can really do anyway.

>>8885627
A few days ago. I admit, I was shocked for an entire day at first. But then I just brushed it aside. Now, oddly enough, I really long to be a part of something like that. I just felt so involved in it, now that I finished it I feel completely empty and drained. It only hit me just now. Yeah, I know I'm not going to kill myself. Growing old is something everyone has to think about, I'm just scared because I only started recently, and now I'm only thinking in terms of how to prepare for it when it comes. I guess the only way to really reset myself is just to ignore everything in the past few days, and everything similar once it appears again in my life. Ignorance is really bliss. I just can't seem to enjoy anything right now. I'm sorry, again, I apologize about this. But I'm glad I actually feel a little better talking to you guys about this.

>> No.8885695

>none of them are worth living
>I don't have the courage to take the first step in ending my life
Man up and forge your own life, because it's the only way to have no regret about them.

Suicide is only "meh I can't be arsed" but you can't even do that.
Lots of useless pondering that even finding an answer to will help, no real action to actually help.
I was a bit like you, though less pathetic.

>>8885639
diplomas, additional skills. Nobody cares if you worked at mc donalds if you're applying to any job that requires brain usage.
Should be readable within 30 seconds or it's going straight to the trashbin.

Use common sense, highest diploma in bold, and don't neglect the "others" section, which makes the difference. If you have a driver licence mention it, if you have a car, mention it, if you acquired skills on your own, mention it.

and yeah, you can lie, nobody's going to do a full background check, they won't ask you to show them your diplomas in person.

>> No.8885708

>>8885695
I haven't had a job at McDonald's, I have no "highest diploma", no driver's license, nothing. Just compulsory education which I have listed in its own section. I am applying for low rung jobs now, so I can kind of tailor it a bit by saying I LIKE PACKING BOXES IN MY SPARE TIME or whatever, but there is nothing else to write about.

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for the CV guys
try this if you are confused what to write
I am not sure how much it will help you

http://europass.cedefop.europa.eu/en/documents/curriculum-vitae

>> No.8885715 [DELETED] 

>>8885519
The universe is infinite. Prove me wrong.

Until you can back it up, there's no point in claiming that the universe is finite, you know.

>> No.8885728

>>8885715
You can't prove there's no god, therefore there is a god

Just saying that sort of argument is the most retarded sort, but I'm not going to try and refute what you want to believe especially considering no one has even a avague clue.

>> No.8885732 [DELETED] 

>>8885715
fuck your aristotlean logic. I don't need to prove you wrong, my claim is at least as likely as yours.

Also to disprove you I'd have to go by the hypothesis that you are right beforehand and show it's fallacious.

what if I said the universe is both finite and infite ? can your punny mind handle it ?

>> No.8885742

Time to buy some helium, OP!

If you want any help in setting it up, don't be afraid to google it.

>> No.8885758

>>8885728
>>8885732
The problem isn't with the idea that the universe is finite. The problem is that you're stating it like it's a fact. Obviously, it's certainly possible for the universe to be finite. But for some reason, people fail to see that it's also plenty possible for it to be infinite. I'm not saying that it's infinite simply because you can't prove me wrong, just challenging you to do so in order to show that you're throwing away a valid possibility just because you don't want to believe it.

There are any number of ways for the universe to be both finite and infinite at the same time, so you'll need to clarify a bit more on that. Also, misspelling "puny" isn't helping your case.

>> No.8885775

>>8885758
Because I'm not presomptuous enough to not acknowledge that anything I state can be wrong.

You act as if I inherently admited I that everything I said was a fact set into stone and the one only truth.
An assumption.

"true knowledge is born from conflict", or something like that is what ancient greek philosopher were hooked on.

>misspelling "puny" isn't helping your case.
form over substance. shouldn't even have bothered to reply.

>> No.8885812

>>8885775
So we both misunderstood each other, whatever.

On an unrelated note, I'm curious as to why so many humans have this philosophy of "don't bother thinking about death." As if the problem is just going to go away after a time. In fact, it's almost as if it's frowned upon to even try to come to terms with the idea of death. Maybe that's just normalfag philosophy, I don't know. But I've seen it on /jp/ too.

>> No.8885820

>>8885812
The problem is mostly that you can't really get anywhere thinking about it, its a complete unknown and some of the potentials after death are not fun to think about.

>> No.8885830

>>8885812
you can't avoid it so bothering to think about it wouldn't make any difference.
It's unknown and therefore, any thinking is pure speculation.

it would make as much sense as saying the universe is finite.

>it's almost as if it's frowned upon to even try to come to terms with the idea of death
because christians and other cockheads who want to controll your thoughts and hate free speech ?

>> No.8885867

>>8885820
>>8885830
You can prepare yourself mentally though, and make sure you don't have any regrets. It would save you a lot of grief.

And not just your death. Everyone is going to die, even those dear to you, and I'm not the one who decided that this will happen, so there's no need to bite my head off about it. Instead of falling to pieces when it happens, isn't it better if you make the best of your time with them while they're alive, with that in mind?

After all, there's so many people that always say things like "man up and deal with your problems," but...

>> No.8885928

>>8885867
perpare yourself mentally ? for what ?

>make sure you don't have any regrets
But that's how I live my life, you faggot.

>> No.8885928,1 [INTERNAL] 

feelio

>> No.8885928,2 [INTERNAL] 

It usually makes me feel better to stalk my old highschool classmates on facebook.
They're all normals of course but they all seem to lead pretty unfulfilling lives. They all work some shitty job, some of them went to college and work slightly better paying shitty jobs but have a lot more debt. Almost all of them are married now and if not then they have some boring looking gf. Many have a kid or two, almost all of them seem to have killed themselves inside and adopted a pretty normal day-to-day lifestyle.

But as a NEET I have been exploring the universe since day one after graduation.

>> No.8885928,3 [INTERNAL] 

hedonism

>> No.8885928,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>8885928,2
lol i know that feel. except since i was in gifted classes a lot of them are high achievers. anyway i stopped doing that like 4 years ago, I just don't care anymore, and yeah I'm so above them.

>> No.8885928,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>8885519
You could see the stars die with your wisp-like body, and when the whole universe blacks-out into total nothingness you go into a giant omniscient CPU which later explodes

>> No.8885928,6 [INTERNAL] 

*tips fedora*

>> No.8885928,7 [INTERNAL] 

>>8885928,6
*battlefield jumps out of a helo and kicks you in the face*

>> No.8885928,8 [INTERNAL] 

>>8885928,2
A few days ago my mom was agrily asking me why I wasn't married or had a kid. I'm 24. She's never before even asked about why I've tried to kill myself, and she knows about the attempts, that's the bad thing. She never asks why I never leave my room. She's only concerned about why she has no grandkids.

And then a few months ago one of my uncles was actually yelling at me, telling me that at my age he already owned a house and was married.

Is a person not allowed to do what they want to?

>> No.8885928,9 [INTERNAL] 

>>8885928,8
>attempts
attention whore

>> No.8885928,10 [INTERNAL] 

>>8885928,9
Won't multiple attempts look good on a disability application?

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