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>>8851166
>Genius.

the laser has no hitbox when it first materializes, just pass through it

This spell is not difficult, Fujiyama Volcano on the other hand...

>>8851280
It's still distracting .

had more trouble with Hollow Giant

This thread is now about Maze of Love.

Does anyone else think this card is 5X as difficult as anything else in EoSD extra?

>>8851826
it's just you

OH GOD DAMN IT.

don't move more than about 6-8 pixels
you're good to go

I take it this is the game thread?

I just got to "And then there will be none" for the first time ever, it feels amazing. I actually had never even gotten to counter clock before, But I captured it on my very first try, feels good.

The best time of the day will flanally come for me...soon.

Just re-installed touhous 1 to 12.3 on my new computer, so I've been marathoning normal modes to unlock all the extras.

The only loss I've had so far is against Kanako, Just 12 and 8 ending b left and I'll be done and I can get back to work trying to beat another hard mode.

Finally, cleared EoSD hard for the first time, gave me a warm feeling since it was also the first game I cleared on normal and probably the one I'll first clear if I decide to try lunatic runs.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20240

>>8851826
Not alone there.
Can capture most of Flan's stuff, but become a bombing wreck at Maze of Love.

>>8854897
>>8851826
I just stay at the bottom and tap left a lil bit.

I use marisa A.

>>8854908
With Reimu B is even easier, smaller hitbox.

>>8854928
I think in EOSD have the same size hitbox, could be wrong though.

>>8854954
Fuck, I did check it and you're right, I've playing it only with Reimu because I thought it would be easier with her hitbox.

Apparently the net play for PoFV is shit, is this true?

Alright I give up.

At the risk of sounding like a retard, how are you meant to do Chen's first EX spell on PCB? I mean it looks like streaming, but something keeps killing me while I'm streaming and there's so much shit flying around I can't see what the problem is.

Stage 3 of SA is incredibly difficult for me on normal.
Any tips?

>>8855121

Stay away from the edges, move primarily to the left.
That's about it.

>>8855121
it's impossible, SA is the hardest game.

>>8855121
I've always found stage 3 incredibly easy for some reason.

>>8855121
Now this I can help with.

If you're going for NM/NB clears, stage 3 is actually quite difficult in my opinion. Relative to, say, PCB. If you're willing to intentionally bomb a few times, then it's pretty trivial. Bombing in the right place costs you effectively nothing.

The actual stage portion is mostly streaming. Nothing too difficult there. You do NOT want to bomb any of the stage. Yuugi's midboss nonspell is relatively simple, read the lasers and stream the blue shots that come after them. For some reason I find her midboss spell quite hard. If you aren't comfortable with bullets coming from multiple directions, I would actually bomb it to be safe on a 1cc attempt.

Her opening nonspell is similar to one of Patchouli's spells that I can't remember the name of. Just find gaps and move through. Pretty static pattern. Her first boss spell is also easy. Stay under her, hit the arcs until you can get past them - do not destroy them.

Second nonspell - dodge lasers. No better advice here. Easy once you get used to them. For her second spell, do not use focus too much, whatever you do. Sometimes you need to get to a gap quickly. Abuse the hitbox of the bubble-like bullets.

Last nonspell, I have no fucking idea to be honest. I always get walled by the yellow shots. I think you're meant to move up immediately after streaming the blue shots. Last spell is quite easy. Stay out at the edge until she's spawned the second wave of static bullets, then move up to about the level of one of the tips of the rows of bullets. Then back off and dodge the bullets as they approach. Repeat.

>>8855224
Thanks for that.
I have problems on nearly the entire stage/boss because lasers. I suck at lasers.
And yeah Yuugi's last nonspell kills me every time, I can't find an effective way to go about doing it.
Another problem I have is that on her last spellcard, when she spawns that second wave of bullets, they ALWAYS happen to spawn on me and kill me. Every time. Even when I think I moved out of the way and there's no way they'll spawn on top of me, they do.

>>8855171
I would think that UFO is. It seems like the bullets are so much more dense and chaotic in that game.

>>8855306
Then move to the very bottom of the screen after the first wave, and then back up when the second is finished.

>>8855317
I think SA is the hardest as well.
UFO wouldn't really be that hard if it weren't for the UFO's. You need to focus on getting the UFO's to hoard up lives and bombs, and that makes one more thing to worry about, dodging bullets as you collect UFO's as well. That, and it's quite easy to die while trying to reach a UFO.
I really don't like that system at all.

SA is just...very difficult.

>>8855334
Why didn't I ever think of that?
I'm an idiot, thank you.

>>8855110
First stay in front of him for the first barrage, then slowly descend easily streaming it, once you're at the bottom move close to one of the edges, Chen spell shots small barrages rather than a slowly continuous stream like Ran's, there's like 4 small barrages until you can stop and change your direction, if you give me a replay I can tell what are you doing wrong.

>>8855337
I lost 5 lives on Okuu's last spell yesterday. FIVE. I thought for sure that would be my first 1cc, but I was literally trembling with the anxiety. I'm still kicking myself for letting it slip through my fingers like that. The rest of the Okuu fight is surprisingly easy, all except her last two spells.

I would still be putting in attempts now but I haven't slept for a few days and my dodging skills are virtually nil.

>>8854833
Oh my god I did it! This was the first time I ever even got to the second part of "There will be none" and I fucking killed it! Even managed to do extremely good dodging on the ripples!


>maze of love
Fuck you too flan, I think it counted me as capturing it too, such a kick in the butt.

Anyway, my first ever extra clear from any touhou game!!!
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20243

I spent so much time practicing the second loop stages of DOJ, that I started to forget my strategies for the first loop.

>>8855422
I remember the first time I cleared an Extra, it was Mokou. Still can't reliably capture Fujiyama Volcano. Haven't felt that kind of excitement in months.

>>8855464
Same here, I was just practicing the stage like normal and out of nowhere I had a fantastic run where I captured Fujiyama Volcano and proceeded to capture Hourai Doll the first time I'd even reached it. I've only had one comparable run since, and now I'm hugely out of practice.

Getting close on Suwako though, I need that feeling of excitement in my life again.

>>8851826
>>8854897
>>8854908
>>8854928
>>8855422
I always ponder why the fuck so many people don't just do Maze of Love the way it looks like it's obviously meant to be done.

It's freakishly easy if you just go through the holes.

Is moving away from the general bottom of the screen that much of a mindscrew?

Maze of Love is a static spellcard and an incredibly consistent capture for me.

I really find it hard to understand.

Seriously, what the hell's hard about it? I find it being one of her easiest spellcards among the likes of Cranberry Trap and Laevateinn.

>>8855549
Cranberry trap is hard too

>>8855171
For me SA has always been a pain from stage 5 on. The other stages are relatively easy for me to clear and capture most of the spellcards ('cept probably when playing as ReimuA, the Yuyuko spellcard from Satori), but then comes Cat's Walk and utterly rapes me. Maybe I should watch replays but I feel like that's a bit of a cheat to copy other people's moves.

>>8855592
I think the farthest I've gotten on lunatic is the stage 5 midboss. On hard mode, I've gotten about 10 seconds farther. That's how drastic stage 5's increase in difficulty is for me. It's all pretty easy until Satori...

>>8855700
This is only on normal, forgot to say.

>>8855602
I still bomb stage 3 once or twice, not that it matters since bombs are power based in SA.

Stage 4 is pretty moderate overall. Double Black Death Butterfly and Border of Wave and Particle are horrible though. Everyone else seems to think that Wave and Particle is easy but I don't see it (unless you abuse the safe spot).

All I can say about stage 5 is that ZUN did a very good job of creating 5 minutes of hell.

>>8855549
I feel the same way about Maze. Cranberry can be easy or hard for me, I can end it quickly by following flan closely and it be easy, and other times I focus too much on dodging and it takes longer to capture, almost always resulting an eventual hit.

>>8855700
In normal, I find BoW&P to be relatively easy if you watch out for the waves (heh), because the "particle" part is alright, just got to have a quick eye.
Double Black Death Butterfly always gets me though. I think I have a grand total capture of 3/40 or something.

And as I said, Cat's Walk destroys me and if I do pass then Orin and her ghosts take care of sending me to hell indeed.

>>8855724
I have a weird history with Cat's Walk. Sometimes I collide with the first bullet I see, but if I'm relaxed I glide through no problem. Of course on 1cc attempts I'm never relaxed so I inevitably die.

Pretty much every single attack Orin has as a boss is bullshit. Easily my most hated boss in the whole series, even more than Youmu. At least some of Okuu's danmaku is fun to dodge. Her first spell is tough but fun as hell.

>>8851826
Nope, at least by capturing it using the "fast" way.

>>8855074
Yes, that's why people use adonise to improve netplay.

>>8855379
Oh lol, for me is exactly the opposite. Her 2 first spells are harder IMO.

And about her last spellcard, try to let the timer go down, something nice will happen.

>SA difficult
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=19809