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>>8781617
Hey there ganon.
Dammit why I can´t host? ;_;

It's weird seeing Hisoutensoku threads suddenly pop up and gain momentum again. I think it has been more than a year since these threads were continuous and popular.

>>8781628
>Dammit why I can´t host?
I know same feeling
have you to figure out on how to port forward?

>>8781629
Still doesn't top the half year after the release. I'm not reainstalling just because it popped up as the taste of the month again. Maybe, if it persists.

>>8781629
I'm trying to revive it making these threads and luckily succeding. As far as someone makes a new thread if I forget, this should be continuous.
By the way, I hope they release a totally new fighter soon, more characters, new system, more amazing music, dem stages, etc...
>>8781635
I have port 10800 forwaded both for UDP and TCP, both for inbound and outbound . I fucking don't understand why it doesn't work...
Though I think I haven't restarted my pc since I changed that, it shouldn't be necessary, I can't understand it.

>>8781644
>By the way, I hope they release a totally new fighter soon, more characters, new system, more amazing music, dem stages, etc...
Maybe after the next Touhou. Since ZUN will be busy with his waifu.

>>8781653
He has been with that girl for 6 years, not married but as a couple, I doubt it's going to change anything other than ZUN getting less sex.

These threads disappeared because everyone that was in fact interested went to #hisouten, and those who weren't simply weren't interested

>>8781660
But I was interested, I just didn't want to leave /jp/ for some irc channel which is dedicated for this purpose when I had the chance.

>>8781644
>new system
Better idea. Just go back to IaMP style and add some characters.

>>8781673
> go back to...
I totally disagree, while both systems are pretty good, IaMP and SWR/Soku, some innovation can be good, it's risky because it can be broken and shitty, but it's better than always the same crap. The main reason why the Touhou series is fun, it's because it adds new systems to each STG, some are good, like most of them and some are total fails like TD trance or IN deathbombs or MoF bombing system.

>>8781673
I forced IaMP threads until the last moment. /jp/ is made of casuals though who give up too early, so once I became an experienced player I couldn't find any worthy opponent. Everyone was either a complete beginner or much more proficient than I am. Having only a keyboard didn't help much either.

I dislike Soku because you can deal too much damage at once.

>>8781681
>Most IaMP bnbs deal ~3k damage
>Most Hisoutensoku bnbs deal less than that, unless you're playing okuu

Dude, just stop posting

>>8781688
Tatsunoko combos do billions so clearly it is a higher damage game than Marvel 3!
That is a really stupid way to argue that and you should feel bad for ever trying to pass that off as a logical argument.

>>8781694
He said he disliked Soku because you can deal too much damage at once
I showed damage comparison
Are you retarded? In case you don't know, both games have all characters with 10k HP

>>8781688

Yeah. If you're going to dislike UNL, a much more valid reason is the overly defensive and floaty gameplay

Also, I wish most of the spellcards weren't completely awful. Seriously, most characters only have, like, three or four good spellcards, tops, and the rest are either situational at best or useless at worst

anybody hosting?

>>8781718
You're wrong on the spoiler part

And well, you could argue about the defensive part. It's much easier to stay on your defense in Soku, but in IaMP, the neutral game is much more based on spamming and grazing until you manage to close in. I believe Soku to be much more offensive in that aspect, because, even though the stage is bigger, spamming is generally not a very good option.

>>8781722

Eh, sure. Might not be for too long, though

Hosting at 76.178.135.113:10800
West Coast USA
Seven colored tier

>>8781673
Better yet: go back to the IaMP system AND keep the skill cards, but instead of needing to draw something with this deck system, you could just choose whatever 236B/C you would use before the match.

>>8781740
laggy, sorry

>>8781740

I'm sorry for using you to test my connection. It's the first time I play against someone who knows his shit with Alice, you were quite intense.

>>8781740
Are you still hosting?

>>8781740
Sorry I live so far away from you that lag was unbearable..

>>8781788
Where do you live? Maybe we can play

What happened with Soku Lobby?

>>8781740
Good games honshu, but with that lag I can't do anything and will never win, half my techniques are oriented for surprise fast attacks to make other player flinch, playing at 1/4 the speed that's impossible. Anyway you are pretty good, though I'm sad to say your character will fall to nearly all of the remaining cast.
Hope we can play again without so much lag.

Thanks for the handful of games, Chen, Parseech, Shmoop, and Lunarian. Shame about the lag. On second thought, I probably shouldn't host until more west coasters are awake. Think I'm done for now

>>8781734
>You're wrong on the spoiler part

I'm really not. Most spellcards are simply a liability to use due to how highly punishable they are and the way the graze system works, or only work off of one or two combos anyway. Truly good spellcards are either reversals (like Alice's Trip Wire), HUGE damage enhancers that work well with either a variety of combo openings OR work well with a very safe move (such as Meiling's True Radiant Rainbow Fist), or ones that fundamentally change the battlefield (such as Utsuho's Subterranean Sun or, indeed, most of Yukari's spellcards). All other spellcards are simply chafe

In fact, honestly, Utsuho and Yukari got most of the good spellcards period. I can't really think of a character that has as many genuinely useful spellcards as them

>>8781851

Oh hey, I forgot Sakuya. She has a fair number of good spellcards, too

>>8781851
Well, if you don't want to count combos, then most spellcards really become crap.
But, for example, Reimu has only two spellcards that are not practical, and those are the lv3 laser-thing and Fantasy Heaven. Every single one of her other spellcards has its uses, and they are not bad at all.

And funny of you for mentioning Trip Wire, it's a pretty terrible spellcard imo, the damage is bad unless you get it to hit in specific places or have like four dolls out. I myself don't use it, I'd rather use a Hangeki or a bomb.

Say a character and I'll tell you the uses of the spellcards, most of them are very easy and pratical

>>8781851

>True Radiant Rainbow Fist

I just realized that a much better example of what I was trying to say here would be her Star Pulse Earth-Moving Shot. Sigh, so many post edits

TRRF is useful too, though, but pretty situational. I saw Renee, I believe it was, put it to rather good use

>>8781851
>Utsuho and Yukari got most of the good spellcards period. I can't really think of a character that has as many genuinely useful spellcards as them.
uhmmm Remi cards? I mean seriously they combo into anything, her chains card does incredibly high chip damage and guardbreaks if the opponent dares to guard, her gugnirs are lightining fast and do 3500 damage and 4200 damage, her crosses are reversal with huge hitbox and as fast as the gugnirs. Also Youmu cards are pretty useful due to guardcrush, unblockables, combo, grazing, etc... . Suika Is another spellcard powerhouse with very useful reversal damaging spellcards, only having them higlighted makes most opponents be careful, as with Remi spellcards, they do some psychological damage to your rival apart from the huge damage output if they connect.
Worst spellcards belong to Marisa IMO, slow startup, airblockable, grazeable, etc... The only good thing those have is the damage output.

By the way Honshu I recommend you using that alice spellcards that sends a lot of explosive dolls, It does a huge amount of damage in corner and guardbreaks, it can help you keep the corner pressure that is where you game style fails a bit.

>>8781856
>Trip Wire, it's a pretty terrible spellcard imo, the damage is bad unless you get it to hit in specific places or have like four dolls out

I'm sorry, but I have difficulty accepting the validity of your opinion after this. A reversal that is incredibly cheap on top of doing upwards of 2-3k damage with good doll placement, which is the entire fundamental of Alice to begin with? Bad?

And, really, let's be honest. If you're not leveling her default 22BC, you don't know how to play Alice. It's her absolute best move, bar none

But for the sake of me being able to contribute intelligent dialogue, let's go ahead and try to discuss the usefulness of, say, Alice's spellcards

Nightmare mode: Find something worth saying outside of Return Inanimate and Holland Doll. I feel quite confident in saying that Return Inanimate, Holland Doll, and Trip Wire are her only good spellcards

And this is a prime example of why you dont get in arguments with people over games.

Congratulations, Shinji

>>8781879

I-I thought we were just having a polite discussion certain to enlighten all parties involved..

>>8781868
>uhmmm Remi cards?

In fairness, I can't comment on this as I haven't seen a good Remilia player in a long time

However, I implore you to recall that my claim was that most characters only have 3-4 good spellcards. At no point did I say or wish to imply that all spellcards are useless. Just most of them

>>8781885
That leaves Remi with 5 useful cards out of 10, maybe 6 if you count Millenium vampire can combo early and do 2000 damge that you heal at the same time, and will leave you with 5 extra seconds where you heal 1:1 the damage dealt. IMO only Remi useless cards are her three cradles and her stretch, those can combo too, but are not reversal, they are slow and the damage output isn't that good if you combo them due to prorration.

>>8781885
>I haven't seen a good Remilia player in a long time.
Most japanese tournaments have her on the finals, never seen one? Remilia and Suika must be the 2 characters that get to finals the most. Both are so broken compared to the other characters.

>>8781905
yuyuko is the best though

>>8781905

There's a weird number of Komachis too. I always wondered about that.

>>8781871
I'm not really a huge fan of reversals, I'm sorry
And also, I really like Seeker Wire, even though the default skill is also great. SP Dolls are very good for crushing, too.
There's not only your way to play Alice, you know? It's not like you're some kind of Alice master.

Anyways, on to the Spellcards
>Artful Sacrifice
You can combo it from 2a 3a 236b, use it after Return Inanimate to deal nice damage, use it to bait a dash, then 2a and the opponent will eat it, and use it in some situational blockstrings

>Little Legion
An excellent spellcard that easily combos and does good damage, is also very good for blockstrings

>Shanghai doll
Very fast, combos easily both in the ground and in the air, can be used in blockstrings too, since it deals 2 spirit orbs of damage

>Seeker Dolls
HUGE spirit damage, enormous area, can be used with Little Legion and alt 214 Thousand Spear Dolls to create a basically unavoidable Crush string

>Trip Wire
You know it, reversal, situationally good damage, can be used in the air, potentially enormous hitbox, etc.

>Return Inanimate
One of Alice's best spellcards, air unblockable, combos easily from anything, good damage. Not much to say, just do something and throw it and it'll likely hit

>Futuristic Hourai
It's shit. Seriously. You can use it in some random combo and explode it or try to do something else, but it's very unlikely you'll be able to use it for anything

>>8781923
>Doll's War
Damage isn't very high, but it's a reversal and got a big range. Trip Wire is better, but this can catch some people off guard.

>Hourai Doll
VERY fast, combos from 214 Thousand Spear Dolls as well as almost anything you do. Instant horizontal range, meaning it's even easier to combo from hits. Also does nice damage.

>Holland Doll
Instantly controls the field in your favor, even though it goes away quickly. Maybe some nice damage if your opponent manages to throw itself into the spellcard or you can do a nice string. It was better before, imo.

>Cutey Greater Thousand Spears
Damage is very low, but combos from virtually anything, even 66b and f.5a

>Lemming's Parade
Freaking enormous damage, you can use it in some blockstrings, combos easily from most counterhits, 66c near the corner, 2a 3a 236b

Well, those are my two cents

>>8781898
Remi's lv5 cradle combos from 4A, it's really funny baiting someone into getting hit by it then dealing almost 5k damage
And, well, you can really combo it from almost anything and still do decent damage

>>8781905
>>8781921

Honestly, when I used to watch tournaments, it was just Utsuho, Yukari, and Yuyuko tearing everything up with occasional guest appearance by Youmu. I think that was patch 1.03 that I followed that stuff at

>>8781923
>>8781929

I don't really see value in most of Alice's spellcards because she needs to shore up her weaknesses of Oh God There's An Enemy Inside My 6A Range, OH GOD and take advantage of her amazing zoning as best she can in order to survive. It's nonsense to waste most of your deck on doing situational damage when I could have four dolls spinning around the map and eight reversal cards, in my opinion

I am sort of experimenting with decks that involve her spellcards more, but so far I haven't really liked the results

I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree

I wish I could play this but I suck at fighting games since I don't have any friends to play with and don't have a local arcade.


why the fuck do you think my post is spam moot? fuck you fix your shit.

>>8781958
since there are people who know how to play here can anyone tell me which cards I should use for china?

>>8781969
to use against the computer.

>>8781966
I just picked random ones that looked cool

>>8781957
I guess our playstyles are very different then
I mean, I never use holland doll or trip wire, but I always have little legion, hourai doll and return inanimate
But whatever works for each person works, I guess

>>8781966
china? never seen that character before. what game are you playing?

>>8781966
3-card youhou for antiair.
4-card drill for damage off dialA and as reversal.
5-card orb for damage off 2A.

>>8781966
>>8781969
Earth & Sky Dragon Kick - combos easily and does great damage
Colorful Light Chaotic Dance - reversal, huge hitbox, very good damage
Star Pulse Earth-Moving Shot - combos from 2aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa and does so-so damage, it's nice though
Colorful Light Lotus Flower Palm - Very good damage from dial-a

You may also want to include True Radiant Rainbow Fist

>>8781982
>>8781983
so is the 5 card yoho not good? what about the alternate skill cards?

>>8781885

That's what it's suppose to be anyway.

It just so happens that a lot of people get butthurt over the idea that they're not right.

You could, however, be a bit more open to other ideas. I learned the hard way that Alice has more than her default 22.

And one problem with reversal cards is that they can be baited; like everything else, and be more of a nuisance than a saving grace.

Just think about these things. You'll be doing yourself a disservice by taking certain things for granted.

>>8781966
>China

Put 4 of Youmu's system cards in your deck, Star Pulse Earth-Moving Shot for your dash 2A pokes, Earth & Sky Dragon Kick because it's a pretty awesome card, and True Radiant Rainbow Fist for the occasional times where you'll be able to chain several Youmu cards and end with TRRF

Alternatively, if you want to be a fucking baller, use Great Roc's Fist and/or Colorful Light Lotus Flower Palm

>>8782004
It's takes ages to fire off and is easily blockable. I don't see how you plan to hit anyone with that.

Her 22 and 214 skills are all useful somehow so see what fits you best. I'd level up her default 623 though, it's great.

>>8782004
It is actually pretty good, but it's easy to bait and avoid since it's a superarmor spellcard instead of a reversal, I wouldn't recommend it if you're not experienced.

About skills, default 623 is great at lv1+, because it gets a huge bullet hitbox
Scarlet Inch Crunch is pretty crap, but it rapes on Diamond Dust. Tiger's Strength is pretty good buff, but having the default 623 is much better

Default 214 get's a step hitbox at lv3, it adds to the comboability, but it's not that good. Still, 214 is a graze attack and air unblockable
Both alt 214s are really good too, Searing Red Fist combos from 2a and Descending Flower Slam is air usable and good for combos

Default 22 hits low, that's about it
Sky Dragon Kick is great and does very good damage, Earth Dragon Wave is quick and is great for blockstrings

Default 236 is pretty bad, but the hitbox becomes huge at higher levels
Shui Xing Tai Ji Quan absorbs bullets and even some spellcards, it's good against spamming opponents. Colorful Rain does a lot of damage and spirit damage, but it's hard to use properly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlbGq276P98

>>8781957

By the way, I just remembered that I was totally wrong. It wasn't until 1.10 that I started seeing Utsuho in tournaments, because it wasn't until 1.10 that Utsuho found herself in high-god tier, as opposed to her old low-mid tier status. Dunno why I didn't see Remilia much, to be honest. Maybe I did and I just can't remember; it *has* been over a year or so

>>8782010

Duly noted

>>8782045
Maybe she wasn't in that tournament, Remi has a weakness in soku against Yuyuko, Okuu and Suika due to the inability to graze continuous barrages. But she is still the msot deadly againt all those o close quarters, so it depends heavily of the ability of the user to get to use her properly, she normally is focused on punishing and making the foe make mistakes, while against those 3 it's backwards, she is the one that must make no mistakes. Though Remi and suika being broken happened on IaMP too. Sakuya has always being top tier too.

>>8782044
so for alt skill cards is it better to put the maximum ammount in so you can level it up or just one to switch moves?

>>8782139
Depends on the skill and what you want from it
Refer to the Wiki to know the changes in the skill levels
http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hong_Meiling

>>8782139
If you just want the move and can play without it put in 2-3. If you want the move as soon as possible, put 4. If you want to level it up, put in 4 too.

There's always the chance that your 5 first drawn cards don't have the skill you want so you may want to lessen the chance of that happening.

hosting party for those who play is in place and everyone is invited

87.221.93.20:10800

spain

not very good tier

>>8782448
sorry, ill have a better ping in couple of minutes

good games cheeen!!
sorry for leaving so suddenly, health problems

80.221.90.172:10800

HQ North Europian hosting

>>8781851
Tenshi's probably got the most versatile spellcard set. Enormous super armor card, two flavors of reversals (though both are kinda finicky and punishable, and not at all usable against Alice), a couple of weird utility ones like the weather-sealing sword, and of course a gigantic fucking pseudo-reversal laser which I love and use too much.

Sakuya doesn't have nearly as many interesting ones; a couple of ones that are useful for punishing full across the screen, a few for gaining momentum, and lol Eternal Meek. (You want guard crush? 2 card guard crush with a braindead setup in the corner! You want combo damage? Better combo damage than the 3 card Red Soul! You want to make your eyes turn red and glowy? Well why the hell not!) Other than that, eh. No reversals, not a huge variety of utility.

>>8781871
Futuristic Hourai is pretty amusing at the very least
>>8781923
>it's shit
but it's cooooool

>>8781957
The only tournament I've been to was a bunch of people who played various characters not that well, three pretty decent Sakuyas, and a Yukari from #hisouten who bathed in our blood.

>>8782516
god damn it! gg

downloading now. Hope my win2k runs it ;__;

>>8782574

ggs Cheeeen, you should consider blocking more often

Am i supposed to get all characters when i update to 1.10a?

And my english versio says "This requires Hisoutensoku v1.10, please patch to that version." So I have to go with the Jap version and I've got no idea how to host/connect lol

>>8782593

>>8782638
No you are supposed to get SWR patched to 1.06 and then forward it to in the config.ini where it says [path] it's explained on the page in OPs post.
Also you have to egt a different translation patch for 1.10a and you should also get the save file with everything unlocked.

>>8782647
Okay thanks. I got english version working now.

Downloading swr now

>>8782663
If it's your first time playing I recommend you to practice first until you have beaten the IA on lunatic before trying to fight anyone here, unless you like getting beaten over and over again.

>>8782666
> unless you like getting beaten over and over again.
You called?

>>8782666
>>8782666
Never played through internet. And never had these on my win2k. But I know how to play this, thanks.

>>8782539
Inscribed Red Soul, the 3-cost blue slash thingy card, is a reversal

>>8782688
Huh, so it is. I never realized.

I suppose that explains why its damage-per-card is shit compared to Eternal Meek, then.

takes ages to download the th105_update_106a.exe ;__;

>>8782759
I shall include a torrent to SWR 1.06 on the next thread ,completely forgot you need it, sorry about that.
Anyway, Shmoop here, anyone hosting?

god, the download just wont start ( >>8782759 ) I dont know whats wrong ;_____________________;

>>8782774
follow the instructions here:
http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/

>>8782780
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I meant that the download wont start when I press the (download) button in http://www.tasofro.net/touhou105/download.html

Though.. i got it working now (´_´;)

>>8782759
If I remember right, your SWR doesn't need to be patched, Soku just borrows the base data files that don't get modified by patching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GuWA9Z6HRI
there is a nice link in the description with swr and 12.3 so all people need to do is to change text in config file

>>8782516

ggs myon, you really should consider some more aggression, shame the connection was what it was, I assume you have a wireless connection?

>>8782448
rehosting
faaaaithful hart your love is my joy don't you ever take that awaaay

>>8782816
;_;
still waiting

ps:why was it so laggy cheeen? i think i'm going to disable espectate...

91.156.79.251:10800

Finland (ps. my win2k might crash any moment)

Don't be too harsh on me

>>8782894
this is weird, i keep getting connection failed to this host...

>>8782905
wonder if something is wrong with my routing ;__; zotto matte

>>8782925
what ever stupid router

Might as well play a bit.

91.154.89.224:10800
Finland

>>8783036
Youre too good

>>8783036
Thanks for the games, even though it was just me getting my ass kicked.

>>8783103
Thanks for joining. You should be more careful about using such unsafe moves like Remi's 22 too often. Also, blocking on wakeup would be a good idea.

>>8783076
Thanks, though there used to be quite a few people who could easily beat me too. Most of them have quit by now, I guess.

>>8783036
Hosting again if someone else is interested.

80.212.109.102:10800 EU

GGs W2, you are still too aggresive, also marisa's butt is easy counterable and it becomes predictable.
You have to keep the corner pressure not swap positions with your opponent, half of the times when you cornered me you dashed and jumped leaving me free to just dash forward and swap positions, leaving you in the corner.
Marisa is a mid distance character by the way, on most of the matches you just stayed far away and spam lasers, Marisa mid distance cover herself with stars then melee, lasers must be counters, and preferably only use the airborne.
This said, It was fun, sorry if I made you mad.

>>8782815
Indeed, gg. I'm pretty weak since i play Suwako only and rarely use Youmu and Meiling, but i really had fun playing with you. Yes, i do have wireless connection, wasn't really that bad, except for some of those laggy moments.

>>8783171
good games!
i don't know much about the game or marisa... i'm trying to learn

>>8783196

Suwako is not that weak of a character, it's just that her strongest point is in her pressure, moving away from your opponent with her is rather counterproductive since she does have rather limiting movement.

Yeah, the overall delay wasn't that bad, it's just the problem with wireless connections that the delay keeps constantly changing so you really can't get used to a delay when it keeps jumping up and down

>>8783036
I'll be right back in 15 minutes, if you're willing to wait a bit.

>>8783344
Sure, take your time.

68.62.19.159:7500
that awkward tier

>>8783441
Oh, right, east-midwest.

>>8783164
Good games, The lag was unbearable so I got out.

>>8783472
GGs. I'm glad you ended it actually, the lag was bad.

>>8783132
sup idler

>>8782448
i am hosting, so rejoining is possible

>>8783531
Who's this?

I'm eager to play but sadly can't host myself. Anyone available right now?

Anyone still hosting? I'm up for some games.

Midwest US, Scrub-but-getting-there tier.

>>8783677
I wanna play you, but I'm afraid I'm giving myself repetitive stress injuries from yesterday...

Hm, midwest, though... You wouldn't happen to be going to ACen, would you?

24.155.25.108:10800

Central.
Overly aggressive, learning and quick-to-lose-spirit tear.

Also Idk if the hostin' will work but hell, may as well give it a try.

>>8783681
I'm not any good at this, I just wanna play some games and take it easy. And nah, I'm not really much of a con-goer. My friend wants to drag me to one, but we're trying not to go out of state if we can.

77.233.115.39:10800
France
Ok tier

>>8783535

Good games, I wonder what caused the pretty huge lag at some point?

>>8783733
good games, no idea!

>>8783036
GGs Idler. Seriously, I always feel slow and dumb when I play against you. I fail too much at inputs, always fall into your traps, and I fail at chaining hits. I suffer incredible pain when I'm cornered and your oki always manage to hit me once or twice per round. I almost never win any air contact even though we jump at the same time. Phew, hard times.

Also, I don't know if it's just me imagining things, but I noticed that you get some sort of concentration boost when you have less than 20% of your health. Maybe it's just me being stupid, but when I manage with some kind of miraculous luck to bring you that low, you become unhittable and I end up screwing up badly.

See you around! I wish I could practice a bit outside our matches.

>>8783763
GGs Akagi.

That 5 card ice cube is lovely, isn't it? You should keep a closer eye on my cards, being smashed down from the air with it like that isn't a good idea. That moment when I screwed up punishing your spark was quite spectacular though. Also, couldn't stop laughing at your fortune packets with Sanae, oh god.

>I don't know if it's just me imagining things, but I noticed that you get some sort of concentration boost when you have less than 20% of your health.
Yeah, I know. I do plenty of risky gambles and outright stupid shit when I know I can afford it. I don't really do it intentionally, it's just how I end up playing for some reason.

>>8783704
Hey, good games, thank you! Sorry that took so long to reply, I was eating and 4chan wasn't working for me..

West Coast, US

24.152.141.105:10800
Border between Mashing and Casual tier. Been a while and I don't mind getting my ass kicked a couple times.

Probably too laggy, but I want to try.
186.52.17.54:10800

>>8783681
>but I'm afraid I'm giving myself repetitive stress injuries from yesterday

Oh god, you too?

I think I pulled a muscle in my thumb joint from two days of consecutive, multi-hour long gaming. I really need to be more careful about the pressure I apply with my thumbs..

Wish I could host..anyone want to play with me for twenty minutes or so?

>>8784170
What about >>8783870
No problem if the lag is too much, let's try.

>>8784170
You wouldn't just run away after posting that, would you?

>>8784233
I didn't get a reply for a while, so I played on my own for a bit and missed your post. Sorry!

>>8784233
I'll play you, but it seems like you aren't hosting any longer.

This piece of crap router... It just doesn't obey.

Eh, I'll just use the torrent port.
186.52.17.183:8629

a new party was hosted

87.221.73.100:10800
spain

depressed tier

only a few matches before going to bed...

A million thanks, Kojima. Now I know my lag time is not that deadly. Playing against a human is fun.
Sorry I couldn't give you much of a fight, I haven't played in more than a year. I couldn't even win against the Normal CPU, while back then Lunatic was easy as pie.
Thanks again! Maybe I'll host again sometime after I get my skills back.

>>8784322
Good games!
I don't see that many people using Sakuya, so it was refreshing for a change.
I actually just started playing again yesterday, so I've had my rear end kicked quite a few times. ;_;
I hope to play against you again sometime soon.

Someone up for a couple of fights?

>>8784340
Sure.
I'm not very good though.

>>8784357
Can you host?

>>8784366
Unfortunately, I can't forward my ports without my relatives thinking I'm downloading/letting in viruses or something.
Sorry.

Good games ganondorfo! you're better than me
i have to sleep now...

This si the last time I try hosting, if it doesn't work I will never try again this week
83.50.184.168
low tier
Tell me if it doesn't work

>>8784377
man you sound depress
cheer up
also I think of myself as the worst player here

>>8784385
10800, right?
If so, it's not working.

>>8784393
It never works ;_;
Sucks being the OP of these threads and not being able to host.

Alright, I'm kind of starting to remember how to play this.
186.52.17.183:8629

>>8783832
Rehosting...or does it not work?

>>8784418
Doesn't seem to be working.

>>8784418
nope, doesn't work.

>>8784427
>>8784430
Damn. Oh well, sorry about that.

Great Meiling, Ganon. That air-to-land entry is deadly, and your combos don't leave space for much comeback.
As I said to the other Anon, I'm sorry I'm... "rusty", to say the least.
I hope these threads are still here in a week.

>>8784498
The combos I do are like luck based
Hope that rust fades away

80.221.90.172:10800

Average early morning North Europe host

>>8784307
rehosting in place

mid-boss tier

173.3.168.226:7500

East coast, smashed as fuck (when the fuck did I type this? Am I even hosting?) off chinese tea tier.

Come join if you want "Demolished Renee's shitty Meiling rights". That's if anyone is up! If I go afk for slightly extended periods of times, I will be back shortly. It's probably me blowing up.

>>8785769

ggs Ganondorf, you should start considering to vary your playstyle a bit, you are currently riding a bit too much of a one trick pony

>>8786617
Sorry about this belated comment, I tried to join again right after that disconnect but you weren't hosting anymore so I figured I'd grab some breakfast instead.

Anyway, I'd advise you to block a lot more on wakeup, it was a bit too easy to hit you when you were getting up and either trying to mash or jump away.

>>8786732
still hosting, but you're too way above my leve...
thanks for the tip

good games myon
i don't know why it got so laggy at the end...
rehosting~ at >>8784307

>>8786761
GGs man, but i really can't stand those lags.In a few hours my connection should be much better, then we could try again.

Oh shi, random DC. GGs ganstuffnoff, or whatever your name is, prolly that zelda guy. Anyway. I would give tips or whatever, but like I said before I'm kinda like smashed, I don't remember shit.

Ask me or play me when I'm sober and I'll be glad to tells you stuff. Those matches were really fun, thanks for sticking with me~

PS, you're the first person I brought back my Komachi on! I haven't played her in ages but it seems like I kinda still got some strats down. I guess I'll run her in practice~

>>8786909
You're smashed and I'm tired as fucked.
Can't wait play you again

Anyone hosting?

gg! you managed to beat me with patchouli, is that your main character?

>>8787078
Thanks for games, and sorry for leaving suddently. My pc crashed.~ ;___;

Well.. Patchouli & Suika ( cant play Suika at all) are my fav 2hous so I guess you could say that.

Anyone hosting?

>>8786640
Lingering effects tier. Hosting again, I hope I'm not dying.

>>8787497
GGs CHEEEENN~

Stop mashing on wakeup! And cut out those gimmicky attacks, you got enough sense to counter my play style, so I nono why you resort to things that doesn't even work in your favor.

Gonna go practice my Komachi or something.

97.100.112.167:10800
Cirno Tier
Us East

>>8787574
Rehosted.

Good games whoever was connected last. Although it was a bit laggy.

Hosting.

79.185.240.45:10800
Middle Europe

I don't know if it'll work; let me know if it doesn't.

>>8787574
Hey good games, what version of the game are you using?! the fucking game changed my controls, cards, etc... also my resposivness was shit, the game would react like 1 second after I hit button. First time this happens to me online so I will guess it's something about you using another version of the game ,since I have played before with terrible lag and the game synch wouldn't change at all.
>>8787618
It doesn´t

>>8787628
Okay then.
Anybody hosting?

>>8787628
Oh also couldn't read your name, it said player 1 and player 2 intead of my name and your name. And on the match it wasn't even there like usual. The game was very wierd that's why I disconnected, also couldn't play with changed controls and synch problems.

>>8787628
I am using 1.10a. It seemed like a huge distance lag. It often happens from over seas. I usually don't have such an issue either.

>>8787612
Good games Repeede (I think.)

>>8787650
Repedee, but yes good games.
hopefully with time ill get back into things again.
if these threads keep staying alive that is.

72.51.191.116:46318
Central US
I don't even play this game.

189.81.217.145:10800
South America

Hopefully it wont be so laggy.

checking if I can actually host, I'm in Sweden
94.191.158.192:10800

Hosting
99.99.21.18:10800
US East Coast

>>8787742
Loads of lag, but it was fun, thanks for helping me check, MOTETAI

>>8787742
DATLAG.

>>8787770
Mobile broadband is worst broadband ;_;

>>8787768
host again I'm from finland. It shouldnt lag too much~

>>8787773
Oh if thats the problem...
>>8787778

>>8787773
It sure is, but the mainly fact is that we are pretty far from each other, I'm from South America. But indeed, good game!

>>8787783
South American-Anon too. Want to play?

>>8787778
>>8787781
I've hosted again, if you want to try it

>>8787788
Host the game.

>>8787789
Yeh it lags quite a bit. ;____;

>>8787790
186.52.9.103:2466
Not sure if my router will collaborate.

>>8787781
Welp, guess I'll have to get a proper connection before I try this again. Thanks a lot though

Not a big fan of the fighting games, but I like the pictures you're using.

>>8787794
I'd be funnier if you've used another character. It's always sad to hurt sakuya sama.

Dat lag, MOTETAI. Yesterday I played with people from... USA or Europe, I suppose, and we had no lag. Good games though. I'm suprised you can use that many characters. I don't remember seeing Alice's bouncing laser before.
It was quite hard inputting 623 and 214 with that lag.
Thanks for the games.

some on host from europe ;___;

>>8787861
Nooope, I can only use Sakuya. I was never able to learn other characters. I... I guess this is what they call "destiny"...

>>8787873
I'd host but your spelling and grammar is... nah, fuck that.
Try me:
>>8787794

>>8787806
>こんばんわはー
>わはー

>>8787873
Did I use cheap moves? Maybe Sakuya is cheap? I feel like that whenever I win. Especially if they disconnect after one battle ;_;

>>8787885
>>8787885
Damn lag but gg.

ps. I don't know why my English was that bad in my last post.

>>8787866
I just play for fun, I don't really know how to play the game. Also, you are always doing the same combo.

>>8787914
You can play as cheap as you want to. I just don't like lag. ;____; gomen~

Can someone upload the latest version?

>>8787920
Well, that combo (5AAA 2B 5C) works well enough, I think. I could do variations but not with that lag.

>>8787930
Oh, in that case, it's fine, don't worry. I don't like lag either. Now practice mode feels so smooth... I wish I had a better connection.

we're still on version 1.10a right?

Should I bother installing the voice mod? Sounds interesting, but how do I do it and is it worth it?

80.212.109.102:10800 EU only, please

>>8787971
The main plus with Hisouten is that the girls knows how to shut up.

You should look for some vids on YT and decide for yourself whether it's worth it or not.

>>8787970
still hosting? because it seems that I cannot connect

>>8787971
Judging by some Youtube videos, the voices are so amateur that it'd be more of a bother.

Still hostan, Sakuyan knifan.
186.52.9.103:2466

Let me try again
189.81.217.145:10800

South America, usualy the east part of USA works better with -that much- lag.

hosto da!

87.221.128.66:10800
spain

i cannot pull off any of the combos in the wiki even in practice mode tier

How do I home in here like in arcana heart?

>>8788004
Sorry dude. The connection is not bad, but it's still too laggy.

>>8788018
Weird, it's normal here. Why don't you host?

>>8788024
Try this:
>>8787618
But it didn't work earlier.

>>8788034
Yep, not working. Why don't you try another port?

>>8788024
Oh, and
>Middle Europe
>South America
That's the problem, i think.

>>8788039
Either way it should be lagging for both of us. It was normal for me. Anyway.

>>8788009
you sound like my type of player. lets be shit together.
looking at your match, at least you're winning.

anyone hosting? I don't want to finish my research paper just yet.

>>8788004
Try this: >>8788060

>>8787990
Sorry, something came up. Rehosting:

80.212.109.102:10800 EU

Fuck... I have been pretty much playing these Touhou fighters against cpu ever since SWR came out. If I werent in a rush, I would totally want to fight against someone who is actually real.

>>8788069
It would be a pleasure to play against you, anon. Come back when you can.

Someone hosting, too many messages of hosting in 15 minutes, tried them all , all are playing...

>>8788080
cant get my ports open.. stupid win2k lacks UPnP

77.233.104.47:10800
France
Oktier

80.221.90.172:10800

Average random of the north Europe

>>8788097
We have been disconnected, rehosting.

>>8788101

ggs shmoop but sorry, I can't handle that spikyness

rehosting

>>8788101
OMG the lag was so terrible, anyway good games sitha. I hope you find someone closer to you to avoid lag.

Great games, Ganondorf. I'm the Sakuya from yesterday. I've recovered part of my skills.
I should probably do something against your knife-graze entry.
Anyways, care to post where are you from? That was relatively lag free, and if you're from USA or Europe, then it means it the distance doesn't matter that much.

>>8788069
Come back when you have time, then. Until yesterday I had [almost] always played against the CPU. It's much more fun against people.

>>8788137
USA I'm from
and that rust is going away sweet

>>8788064
wrecking my main marisa was heart breaking. gg.

GGs, railgun. Gotta fly. I might be back for some more later, be it chatting or fighting.

>>8788009
Thanks for the games, sorry for Sakuya spam.

>>8788097
soz for disconnecting so suddently. My shitty win2k crashed ;______________;

>>8788171
that was good! i want to improve with marisa, but i keep going back to youmu...

>>8788077
>>8788143
Woah, got to check computer for a moment, and people are this polite. I will try to be around tomorrow to play. I used to main Marisa, but then realised how Remilia is more suitable for me, and now I am trying to learn how to play Suwako in fun way. If I can just stop laughing at her flying animation.

Sorry, my game crashed. Do you mind rehosting?

Anyone hosting?

>>8788180
It happened again?

81.250.138.137:7500
EU low-middle tier

Trying to host - 90.84.144.74:10800 / Europe (France)
CPU tier I guess, never played this against a real human actually.

>>8788097 Here

Looks like my router won't let me play today.

>>8788267
Doesn't work, yo. Sure you forwarded 10800 properly?

Anyway, Ok**** and mittens, thanks for these games.

>>8788273
Checked, and not working actually.
Bah I'll check that later, i'll just join for now.

>>8788271
Well, good games. Imma call it a day.

Trying to host: 200.146.43.211:10800

>>8788299
Nothing.

>>8788304
Same.

>>8788218
GGs, but my hand is hurting me.

>>8788325
Good games.
And same here. Who knew Hisoutensoku could be so painful. ;_;

>>8788316
>>8788304
It's my damn router. Thanks for trying anyways.

68.106.96.141:10800
EC
I've never had a successful host yet, but you never know.

>>8788347
Nope.
Anybody else hosting?

>>8788355
Made me wonder if we should make a global thread for /jp/ related games (Touhou, MB, VG, heck even EFZ...)
Hard to find players and besides I never really liked the irc channels.

>>8788259
GGs.

>>8788259
Good games, your Reimu is pretty good but I think you are better with Sakuya.

>>8788395
Well, Reimu is the main character I play. I just keep spamming B with Sakuya.
Also, your Remilia is really frustrating when I play with Reimu.

>>8788347
Well, I can't host at all. Can someone else do it?

>>8788409
Remi is my main, she has like a boost against more physical characters while she has more problems against characters like Patchy or Yuyuko. Anyway get a name so I know it's you the next time we play.

Anyone feel like playing for a little while?

>>8788435
can't dl the latest patch because the site is down

>>8788435
I'm tired for today, but oh well, one person more.
186.52.37.28:2466

>>8788453
Hisoutensoku patch?
http://www.tasofro.net/touhou123/download.html

>>8788453
It's only hisouten main page that is down and is and must be an april fools joke.

>>8788456
sorry, laggy

>>8788453
Oh, shoot. I'll upload the patch to mediafire, then. I think this is the right file..
http://www.mediafire.com/?t6m959nx1closqj

>>8788435
Hmm, sorry, I'm sure you'll agree it's too laggy.

some1 host from yrope ;__;

What the hell is the image on Tasofro's site supposed to be? Something out of Twilight Zone?

>>8788456
Connection failed. You still hosting?

187.152.153.123:10800
Central Mexico
Rusty Tier

>>8788456
Was playing Reimu, but way too laggy.

To Reimu-Anon:
That lag, Hahaha. Sorry.

>>8788513
Np, that was my first game online anyway

damn, got me for a moment

174.99.60.20
First time in a while, and I was shit then too
be gentle~

>>8788560
Default port? I'm getting a connection failed.

>>8788572
I left it on the default

I don't remember who asked for this but here is the official japanese tier list for characters.

S: Sakuya, Remilia, Yuyuko
A+: Reisen, Iku
A: Aya
B+: Marisa, Patchouli, Tenshi, Alice, Yukari
B: Youmu, Suika, Reimu
C: Sanae, Cirno, China
D: Okuu, Komachi, Suwako

In order it's Sakuya, Remilia, Yuyuko, Reisen, Aya, Iku, Marisa, Patchouli = Tenshi, Alice, Yukari, Youmu, Suika, Reimu, Sanae = Cirno, Meiling,Ooku, Komachi and finally Suwako.

>>8788580
Not working, sorry..

75.66.155.105:10800

>>8788578
So I'm using the "best" character... I feel kind of bad.

>>8788009
rehostan!

>>8788606
Me too... I main Remi and just watching her I can tell how broken she is, specially her spellcards and attacks like trickster devil, or her infamous 22B that is highly punishable but it's supposed to be used for punishing not spamming.

>>8788578
My favorites are Reimu & Okuu, this is bad.
BUT love them too much so I'm ok with this.

>>8788613
Marisa vs. Yuyurin, I can watch your match with no lag at all. Want to play after you're done?

177.98.12.234:20000
Brazil (South America)

>>8788578
Huh. I didn't think Yuyu was that great. I'm happily surprised. Good work, you big hungry ghost.

>>8788655
So much lag when I'm right next to you. Oh well.

>>8788689

I can't even connect to him. It stays forever on "connecting..." ;_;

>>8788101
GGs Sitha. Man, that was fun. Playing with minimal lag is a rare treat, which I guess you would know as a fell finn. It's been a while since we last fought, hasn't it?

My 66C proved extremely useful against you, normally I wouldn't spam it like that since it's horrible on block but I kept getting away with it. Something you should keep an eye on.

Also, I might've been a bit too trigger happy with my 5card, using it out of the blue every now and then. You kept your cool quite well against it, most of my opponents either don't look at my cards and eat it up or stay on the ground out of fear of getting hit.

>>8788606
>>8788614
>So I'm using the "best" character... I feel kind of bad.
Don't. It's better to play the characters you like than give a fuck about tier lists like that. This coming from a Cirno main. Besides, I doubt anyone on /jp/ is good enough for the list to really matter..

>>8788698
>as a fell
Damn.

fellow*

>>8788729
We'll never EFZ again, Tree.

>>8788698

ggs Idler, yeah it's been a while since there were these threads around

I know that I let you get away with too much 66C but I just can't grip my head on how far the hitbox of it goes, and how high it hits, my brain keeps telling me I should be able to jump it or 66C it even if I constantly fail, the move just overall confuses me

And yeah, you were a bit overly happy with it, you didn't occasionally even give me time to start moving before you hit it out :x
I do try to keep my eyes on my opponents cards yeah, but with Cirno I always have the problem that I can't really tell Perfect Freeze and Ice Crusher apart so I get a bit confused with them at times

>>8788655
gg's. Sorry I'm really bad.

>>8788795
ggs, prince. Do not apologize, the most important is to have fun~

ggs spain bro

good games mr profile1p
you're always blocking low... it's too easy to guard crush you
as you can see patchie and remi are my weakness.. ;_;

>>8788802

Why are you using 20000? I'm guessing that's why I can't reach you.

So anyone hosting near Europe or France?

what a scary players

>>8788009
rehosting daze~

82.159.251.158:10800

Spain, take it easy.

>>8788811
For some reason my router keep changing the internal IP whenever it resets, and I had to portforward like 4 internal ports... I am using 20000 so it's easier to remember, I use 20000, 30000, 40000... and I may have used an incorrect term, I'm newbie at these things.

>>8788850
Reimu here, sorry for the lag (dunno why)
Nice game.

good games >>8789010
nice reimu

>>8789010
Oh and I don't know if people use lots of items in network?
As you noticed I'm not really using powerful spells, I just love to play mind games with my opponents, should try to learn some combos though.

ggs bot, I have to go now.

Not to be needy, but I still haven't played a single game today.. if anyone, anywhere is hosting, I'll gladly play for a while.
Midwest US,
Ara ara I'm a hungry ghost tier

65.128.31.88:10800

US west/central, continental divide. Normal/Hard AI tier. (´･ω･`)

>>8789247
No thanks T, Also you are not normal hard AI tier...

New thread:
>>8789329

93.199.112.16:10800 EU

>>8789222
You gotta use melee attacks sometimes, man. Yuyuko's melees are really good, and her bullet cover is pointless without them to keep the other guy honest.

>>8789247
Thanks for the games, Fumo.

There is more to the game than B and C...~

>>8789382
I almost always lose at any kind of speed contest with buttons, so melee scares me. I only use it to drive people back, because I can't win at any kind of extended button mash.

You beat me in every aspect of every character we played. I learned a little, but its pretty discouraging to be honest. I think I'm gonna take a break.

>>8789462
Melee combat isn't about who presses the button first, not at all. It's about setup, timing, and prediction, not mashing.

>>8789471
You're funny.

anybody hosting?