/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>8774541
big G little G

EYE AM AN OG

no

Ask here
http://www.christiananime.net/

Depends on how you define christianity and otakuism really op.

But yes . just dont jerk off to touhous (read the story of Onan to see why)

It still baffles me that people in this day and age believe in the shit that Christianity propagates

Violence is okay, but not too over the top. Sex? Unless I'm watching very mature anime where that's involved, I don't think I'll be seeing sex. Touhou is fine since I'm not worshiping those Gods. Otaku don't need to be lazy, tight with their money, angry all the time and lustful. Some of the people here are not jobless, and not proud of it.

Pastor? Lol, I'm a Christian, not a Catholic.

>>8774571

It's okay to be a muslim and a touhou .

>>8774562
Is it okay to be an Otaku and Muslim?

Outside of shmups like Raiden I think EVERYTHING here is at least somewhat sexual, or sexually gratifying in some way. Most religions hate sex so I'd say no.

>>8774573
Reimu definitely couldn't show those armpits of hers.

>>8774570

OH LAWDY

www.christiananime.net

They do reviews about how different anime fit into christian values. I think most of them are honestly pretty fair but there are a few that were obviously written by hardcore autistic fundies. Cat Soup had a 10/10 in sexuality before the more moderate Christians of the site asked for it to be changed to something less harsh, because the only nudity in the film was a three second scene that featured the rapid progression and regression of a nude woman that was obviously there for the purpose of artistic experimentation and not fap fodder. Dokuro-chan is also apparently not appropriate for Christians under the age of 21; last I checked it had the harshest review on the site. Something else I think is rather unfair is that if an anime features characters going to a Shinto or Buddhist shrine it racks up a couple of points for immorality. I don't see how it's unchristian to simply acknowledge that other religions exist.

Xtians pls go

Who the fuck are you calling a false god?

>>8774583
>if an anime features characters going to a Shinto or Buddhist shrine it racks up a couple of points for immorality.
Hahahaha, oh the hypocrisy.

Yes.

To paraphrase what Jesus said, if you think of doing a sin to somebody, you've already sinned in your heart. So if you lust after a girl you've fucked her in your heart and thus it's a sin, same with violence, malevolence, and so on. HOWEVER, this can't possibly apply to fictional beings. In fact, the only christian logic I've heard against masturbation is that you're lusting after a certain girl either in porn or a girl you know in real life while you're jerking it. EXCEPT 2D GIRLS AREN'T HUMANS OR REAL THEY ARE FICITONAL. So fap to 2D all you want, imagine doing violent things to 2D all you want, it's completely sinless seeing as no actual people are mentally violated and sinned against.

Also the 7 deadly sins are a creation of the Catholic church and not biblical.

If you or your pastor think the big G can ACTUALLY feel angry/sad/disappointed with you because you're paying respects to Kanako-sama, or loving Byakuren (who was sealed for your sins - Th12 Rm6) then sure, you'll have troubles.

>>8774583
Why would you even read shit like that?

>>8774599
I believe that showing characters worshiping demons is worse than no depiction of religion at all in anime.

Byakuren is touhou jesus and she was sealed for your sins, at least show some respect to her you fucktard.

>>8774608
You are probably just trolling but in case you aren't, kami and Bodhisattvas aren't demons.

>>8774626
They're certainly false idols.

>>8774583
Blessed be God! That page is THE hunting ground! Just imagine, the kind of girl with the same interests as you (only derpier) PLUS the virginity factor that most christians try to enforce over their girls.

>>8774634
According to whom? That gay Jew who got nailed to a stick and didn't even know they exist?

It depends.

Is Otaku a tag you use because it's trendy so you want to be one and relate your persona to it as well as obtain personality due to being lost like 90% of our generation in the age of 19~2X? Then you should kill yourself or learn to play the guitar and write poems, people will like them in a couple hundred of years.

If you're not retarded and you just happen to enjoy this kind of shit because you just like its taste or for being socially retarded / crippled /
It can't be helped Oni~chan / etcetera then I think there's not problem, if there's someone to blame for being like you're it's "God", go to church, get mad at him and shit, as far as I know God is forgiving and full of mercy, that doesn't sound bad.

Why are you worshipping a dead kike on a stick?

>>8774640
I want to fuck the Phelps daughters from Westboro baptist churn. Imagine how lewd and kinky they will be after the years of repression.

>>8774597
>>8774622
Byakuren was not sealed for anyone's sins, she isn't anything like Jesus, why do people keep comparing the two of them?

>>8774634
I suppose they are from a Christian perspective, but I still don't think it's immoral to depict fictional Eastern characters worshiping Eastern deities. A lot of Japan's religion is inseparable from their culture. However, I can definitely see how anime that use Christian religious icons like angels purely for cosmetic use could be offensive.

>>8774649
Because He rose from the grave and overcame death itself proving that He is God almighty.

>>8774640
Last I checked their "post your picture" thread almost everyone was fat and unhygenic. You'd have to be really autistic to be a regular on a forum like that. A lot of them are anal about pirating anime as well.

Why are nuns so hot?
Is it the purity spirit attached to their image?

And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
Matthew 5:30

Does anime make you do something immoral or against the teaching of Jesus Christ? No? Proceed.

What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.'"
Matthew 15:11

So you hear something immoral. Do you partake in it? No? Proceed.

However...

Do not be misled: "Bad company corrupts good character."
1 Corinthians 15:33

Simply stay away from obviously offensive people.

Hope that helped.

>>8774653
Because people love references, give them references and they lose their shit, start to put references to pop-culture, videogames, religion and shit in things and people will like them.

>>8774541
>Touhou depicts many false gods (little g) which take away from God's (big G) glory.
Youkai = Fae
Fae are not biblical creatures but have been a part of Christian mythology.
There used to be a lot of nature spirits that were worshiped all across Europe far after Christianity had rooted out all other religions.
As long as you don't worship them as gods but respect and celebrate them as creations and servants of God there is no problem with them.
It's basically old school Celtic-Christianity.

>>8774595
>Also the 7 deadly sins are a creation of the Catholic church and not biblical.
The 7 deadly sins are from the old testament and are repeated in the Galatians.

I think it's time to talk about everyone's favorite series.

I'm a Jehova's Wittness, and I fap to hardcore eroge, play touhou, watch hentai, etc.

There is a difference between not following a principle, and breaking a law.

Example: Fapping to eroge does not equal you actually going out and raping someone.

>>8774670

Damn it, then why do I keep coming back to /jp/?

Kami aren't gods. Buddhism can actually coexist with christianity pretty well. Shinto has a bunch of shamanism mixed in but you can just see it as culture if it offends your beliefs.

>>8774664
I think Jesus' real power wasn't in the miracles described in the Bible, but that He could spread faith and rekindle love, hope, peace, etc. in people's hearts. The talk about His miracles were just a way to get people to listen to what He really wanted to talk about. You would have to be a dummy to think that He really did make tons of food and cure incurable diseases. What I'm saying, is, the events associated with Jesus are clearly metaphorical.

>>8774670
So being a hikki is sort of like being a hermit from the early times of Christianity.

>>8774684
I like you anon.

>>8774677
Are you implying that youkai weren't originally monsters who terrorized humans until they were finally exterminated?

>>8774684
epic win/troll dude 0/10

If you're not hurting anyone I don't see why a God would hate you.

Oh wow.
I don't go on this board, but I'm fucking amazed that OP got so many serious responses. I'm a Christian by the way.

You guys seem pretty mellow and chill.

>>8774683

>Jehova Witness

'sup bro

Thelemite God-King here, you are all foolish.

>>8774670
What about Jesus' parable of the master giving his servants coins? The one who wisely used his money to make more money, and the one who invested the money in a bank to earn interest were both rewarded when the master returned. However the one who buried it and did nothing with it was rebuked.

This is often attributed to the talents and abilities God gives us, and that if we use or invest them even a little there will be rewards, but God despises us burying our potential away and doing nothing with our lives. So isn't shutting yourself off from the world as NEET seen as shameful to God?

>>8774692
Possibly. But even those hermits did something for others.

One of the pivotal teachings is that one cannot exercise christian love on your own. You must congregate or do good. Churches are simply a way to satisfy that condition, but all of Christianity could, at any moment, demolish all the churches and temples, and go back to congregating in houses like before.

In short: The churches are expendable.

>>8774664
Here, have a handy chart.

>>8774701
I honestly thought I was the only one here. What congregation do you go to?

Wait, some of you actually religious?

How do you explain to god when you masturbated to fat bald man raping loli doujin?

>2012
>believing in a "higher power" that gives a shit about what you do

>>8774683
>implying you haven't committed a sin in your heart

http://danbooru.donmai.us/pool/show/457

Probably the only Touhou doujin with religion as a main theme. It's like reading a Christian Touhou manga.

>>8774721
I'm sure god has better things to do than care about what loli doujinshi someone just jacked off to or whatever.

>>8774725

http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/1039091/blonde_hair-blue_hair-bow-cirno-cloud-english-frog

whoops, wrong link

>>8774721
Because there's a difference between fantasy and reality. I would never fap to CP because real children have been hurt and traumatized in the process, however 2D lolis aren't real and neither are the fat men raping them, and thus I'm ejaculating to a mere illusion, and so I am not lusting after anything real.

I only support Christians in their misogyny and their hatred for the filthy homosexuals.

>this thread

Don't know about Christianity, but there seems to be nothing wrong with being an Otaku in Judaism.

And to my knowledge, going to Gensokyo after you die works fine in the Jewish belief of an afterlife and The World To Come. True story.

>>8774721
I don't. I only like happy sex. And dream of dating Alice.

And it's not as if Jesus said anything against masturbatio either.

>>8774653
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys4A6suaAH8
Love thy enemy? Check
Heal the sick? Check
Turn the other face? Check
Save the lost? Check
Sacrifice yourself to save the world? Check

QUESTIONS?

>>8774732

No, he already knows. In fact, he already knew before the guy actually did it.

>>8774541

What anime is this from?

WAITO CURISTUNS GO HOME

>2012
>Still worshipping a dead jew on a stick.

>>8774541
>>Milky Holmes - a very positive and uplifting show

It's very surprising how one of the funniest cartoons/anime in recent memory doesn't even have a penis joke or celebrity cameo. Animation creators worldwide should take notes.

>>8774742
That's a not very christian thing to do.

Matthew 7:15-20
15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her

>>8774740
No god would think of ideals. In the realm of ideals you are getting off to child abuse and rape.

There is no such thing as "God". "God" does not exist. Man created "God"; he is an idea. We created "God", "God" did not create us.

>>8774748
Yozakura Quartet

>>8774740

You believe that Jesus created miracles 2000 years ago because everyone says the stories are true, but then you suddenly decide that these characters can't be real? How does that work?

Of course, I do believe that Jesus is real and that He created many miracles. But I also believe that Gensokyo is real.

>>8774760
Except He's not dead, He's in Heaven with God the Father.

>>8774764
That's just, like, your opinion man.

Is it possible to be a Christian AND a huge faggot?

Judging by your post, apparently. and here I was, thinking that jayzus had gays

>>8774747

I've always wanted to read a doujin where loli Byakuren meets Jesus, teachers her a bit about the ways he viewed life (but ultimately couldn't teach her everything), forced to leave. After many years, Byakuren would hear of her old master's end from the far west.

Then at the end of the doujin, Byakuren would contemplate her life as she is sealed, and sent into "hell," thinking, "Sensei, I wonder if this feeling is the same feeling you felt..."

Something along those lines.

Then she gets sealed away.

>>8774772
>had gays
Hated*

>>8774766
Illusions to illusions

>>8774769
Gensokyo is also not real. Neither is any superstition about anything. There is no such thing as a "spirit" or "essence". It is liberating to think in this way because it is the truth. Once you do things actually seem sort of more beautiful.

I never understood religions that tell you to be ignorant about everything and not to question anything.

>>8774772
Nope.

>>8774769
Because I believe the people in the bible existed, whereas I know that 2D characters are fictional.

>sloth, greed, wrath, and lust
>no pride, gluttony, and envy

You don't know us very well. We've got pride in our turNEET lifestyles/sexual deviancy/collections of plastic crap, we eat without regard for whether or not we gain weight (when we're not neglecting our bodies by forgetting to eat), and are envious of others who are even more NEET and aspie than us.

>>8774759

>Ephesians 5: 22-24
>Wives, be in subjection unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, and Christ also is the head of the church, being himself the saviour of the body.
But as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives also be to their husbands in everything.

The Word of God. We praise You our Lord.

oh shit, this is /jp/? I thought this was /a/
wow.

>>8774779

No, it's encouraged so that the person can know more about the religion.

>>8774776
Too bad she ultimately and completely betrayed her Master's teachings, saving monsters and demons when her Master would have thrown them all into Hell.

You see, this is the difference. Jesus does not teach equality. He teaches equality for humans. There is a difference.

>>8774779
1 Thessalonians 5:21. Your move.

>>8774779
This seems to be a common misconception.

But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good
1 Thessalonians 5:21

And please do note where it says to be ignorant. This is not warhammer 40k, you know.

>>8774782
I have been eating healthy and trying to get 30 minutes of exercise a day in since I joined the /jp/ fitocracy group. It is hard because there is lots of snack food all around the house. I want to eat Fritos.

>>8774786
But both are just stories from your perspective. You've simply made this huge arbitrary distinction in your mind.

For example, do you think that magic doesn't exist? In fact, if you believe that what the Bible says is true, then you have to believe that magic exists as well.

>/jp/ pretending to be fundagelicals

>>8774787

Whoa a second there, Jesus would have completely sided with Byakuren during her plight. If Youkai's existence was known, Jesus would very likely support them as well.

>>8774764
I always felt that man created God as the ultimate idealization of himself. Also something to comfort himself, like a fluffy dakimakura for the mind and spirit.

I still don't think religion is a bad thing in general though. It can still inspire people to do good. But I guess it can also inspire people to do evil as well. But everything in life is like that pretty much.

>>8774571

>MFW i'm a Muslim and also an Otaku
>MFW i separate both entities and never mixed it together

Learn some decency. Not everything you do in real life need to be religious

>>8774802
And what makes you think that?

Are you implying that youkai weren't originally monsters who terrorized humans until they were finally exterminated?

>>8774797
Why do you think we care so much about purity in women? Most of /jp/ is deeply religious.

>>8774795
But we do have archeological evidence for people like Peter, Stephen, King David and the like. We know where their graves are, and fragments of texts that tell us of their actions. Most of the NT are nothing more but letters sent from a church to another. Unless these churches were also a myth (which they aren't).

As for Jesus, we are not gonna find him, for obvious reasons.

>>8774775
But in order for forgiveness to happen through prayer, it has to come from the heart (ideal) not empty words. In your heart, you get off to these things which is the same to god as committing the act yourself, because it is from the heart.

In any case, god doesn't exist and even if he did, I'd go Maldoror on the fucker.

>>8774811

They find the blanket where his body had once rested though.

This thread has recieved a KOTOMINE SEAL OF APPROVAL

Musical group? lol

>>8774807
Good people will do good and bad people will do bad no matter what.
Religion makes good people do bad stuff, without making bad people do good stuff.

>>8774809
Muslim weeaboos are really cute.

>>8774795
I'm actually a Christian Qabbalist, so yes I do believe that magick exists. And according to Agrippa's definition of magick that includes all fields of science and theology.

Also if you equate both the bible and generic rape hentai #3377222 as being equal in validity then I can see why you'd have trouble seeing why I consider one based in historical truth and the other in fetish fantasy. However I think differently then you, you can consider it dissonance if that makes you feel better.

>>8774807
Good things happening is a good thing. But ideally it shouldn't be forced. Or humanity is just a cruel hypocrite.

>>8774811
So, we have evidence that these people and churches existed. Fair enough, but does that actually say anything about what they did?

What I'm saying is simply that this is not conclusive evidence of Christianity in any way. We're free to believe in Christianity, but it must be taken on faith.

>>8774819
Yeah, and fragments of the cross were he was crucified too, that are stored in many churches over the world.

And if they gather all of the pieces together they can make 20 crosses out of them.

>>8774827
There is no historical proof of Jesus outside of the Bible. None. Same for many other of those nerds.

And Agrippa is small time. Go read Levi.

>>8774807

There is nothing good about it. At its (theoretical) best, when a person believes in "God(s)" it is a waste of time and energy. Practically, it usually is extremely harmful.

>>8774793
Not ignorance in general. Ignorance as in accepting and calling a certain sets of teachings the absolute truth and claiming that all other teachings are false without even learning about them.

(Note: I'm not talking about physical proof. It's obvious that things of this nature are impossible to prove.)

>>8774808
ｗｗｗｗｗ~

Why do half the people in the world turn off their reasoning when it comes to religion? Does anyone take people who believe in the tooth fairy seriously? Or time cube?

>>8774825
Nice black and white thinking, buddy.

>>8774827
>generic rape hentai #3377222
That's obviously not what I mean. I'm just asking why we don't keep an open mind, and instead are so quick to conclude that entire worlds like Gensokyo can't exist, when we have no indication one way or the other.

>>8774838
No.

If anything is "god" to humanity it is the sun and nature. The things that actually have relevance to us, support and sustain us.

Can you be a christian and still believe in aliens?

>>8774838
Here's a spin, why do you turn off your reasoning when it comes to religion? You use the words of others to justify your own laziness and lack of motivation to look into the reasoning of religions and call it fantasy.

>dat feel when Muslim master race

>>8774838

If you don't produce anything but blatant trolling, you're even worse than the people you seem without reason.

>>8774845
It's funny when religious people try to pretend with the half of their brains they don't turn off that the other half's ridiculousness is justified.

>>8774842
I could take Gensokyo as a valid religious belief people have if ZUN himself presented it as such. However he considers it fiction and discusses how he invented certain characters.

I'm so bored and lonely my autism binds me to this meaningless troll discussion

>>8774832
Watch out folks we've got an edgy atheist rebelling against his parents on our hands.

Let's conveniently forget that religion was one of the fundamental building blocks of civilization, the start of science and reasoning.
Yeah, fuck religion.

>>8774850
He isn't trolling. Religion and the religious don't deserve respect of any kind. You've proven yourselves hypocrites in this thread multiple times.

>>8774857
Yeah because /jp/ fucking loves the society we live in.

>>8774857
We've got a deluded theist who lashes out against the people who won't be tolerant of his nonsense by calling them teenagers on our hands.

Lesser mammals were building blocks for humans, but we don't exactly include them in our society on any meaningful level. We just parade them around as our property.

>>8774820
I think she just really likes cake.

>>8774776
While I love to say that she was sealed for our sins, Hiriji learned all she needed from an independent, 400 years older faith that also preached living a virtuous life of selflessness and non-violence.

But then again, there exists the following line of thinking: http://www.jesusisbuddha.com/

So, whatever, let's all be friends.

>>8774833
Please respond. I'm really interested in this.

>>8774860
Did he really say it was just fiction?

>Be religious
>Demand that everyone respects *your* one true god
>All other religion but your one is obviously false and anyone that belives in other things are obviously crazy and needs to be put to death

Religious people are the masters of double standards/hypocrisy.

>>8774858
I may believe in Christianity, but I understand very well that I'm not a very good example of it. In the same way, I understand that the majority of Christians aren't a good example of it either, using their religion as an excuse to stop thinking and look down on others.

I also fully understand that this is all taken on faith. For that reason, I don't automatically disregard every "fictional" world as being false either. You may call it delusional, but that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Is this the way this thread has gone? Oh, okay. Then I have a question for you:

Does Touhou promote religiousness or agnosticism with the way divinity works in its settings? Not trying to start a shitstorm here, I'm just curious about how its fans perceive its effects on religous beliefs.

On one side of the coin, Touhou promotes religiousness because in its settings, the gods are real, they're active, and believing in them produces tangible results. It conveys a message that believing in your religion will be good for you and that the faithless have less to rely upon. No one religion is more "correct" than the other, so have absolute faith in whatever you pray to and follow the tenets of.

On the other hand, Touhou promotes agnosticism because it lumps in gods, the servants of the divine, and holy miracles with magic slinging wizards, shapeshifting druids, mindwarping psions, fire breathing dragons, the living dead, and other creatures that are out of this world. We think to ourselves "This is so silly and unbelievable that this couldn't possibly exist in the real world", and after being exposed to this over time, we might subconsciously think that the same applies to religion.

Has Touhou affected how you think of religion?

>>8774869

That's what I like to hear, and that's what I like to see.

>>8774864
You faggots don't get it do you all of your precious humanism and science and atheism is build on religious ideals.
Mostly Christianity.
So going "BAWWW all religions are stupid and people who believe in them are stupid and religion has done nothing good and is a waste of time BAWWW" is fucking retarded.

>>8774867
She's a lolita.

>>8774876
I was involved with QBL and western mystery tradition. I had weird experiences, and I'll leave it at that. But my brain does everything and I have no evidence that any of it wasn't happening inside my skull from changes in the brain. You could look at it solipsist in a way, that owing to our entirely subjective experience it would be erroneous to place much trust in any "truth."

Satenism is the only religion that i need because my goddess is the one true goddess~

>>8774878
Touhou promotes the idea that legends (spirituality in general) are real on a conceptual level, and thus, in a conceptual world, they exist in plain sight. That's about it, really.

>>8774872
Well during the old testament times pagan religions often involved things like child sacrifice, orgies with strangers, and other lewd things. You have to understand that in comparison, all the old leviticus stipulations were designed for survival for a people in the midst of all that.

So now thousands of years later when western morality took over all the GRIMDARK elements got omitted from the pagan religions that still exist where western influence reins supreme and now it makes it seem like YHVH is a bully picking on the kind little buddas and cute shinto frog gods.

>>8774571

>You faggots don't get it do you all of your precious humanism and science and atheism is build on religious ideals.
>Mostly Christianity.
THINGS ARE TRUE BECAUSE I SAY THEM!

>>8774884
I'm not a humanist, and you are fucking wrong about all of your other points anyway.

Religion is stupid, fictional bullshit that does more harm than good to the world. Quit getting upset people acknowledge you're a retard with a childish belief system.

>>8774857
>start of science and reasoning
I know some Greeks who would take issue with those words.

>>8774888
Love is the basis for every human belief. That's why it is love that gives birth to faith. If you want to believe in something, you will, and if you want to think something is likely to be the truth, then you will. There is no truth that we can be 100% certain of, if you think about it. Even science is, by its very definition, full of things that are falsifiable, and may be falsified in the future.

In that way, all atheists and followers of science are the same as those of us who believe in a religion.

>>8774898
Oh you mean the guys who had hundreds of various philosophical and spiritual beliefs that affected the way they viewed humanity and civilization?

Isn't the jesus god all brimstone and fire?
Crusades and stuff? Violence would be right up his alley.

>worried about sex
>on 4chan

Even /jp/ which isn't that bad compared to some of the boards, has nude chicks all over the font page right now.

Violence and sex I can't help you on other than not every series has such content, but as for gods, as long as you aren't worshiping them and view them as works of fiction there isn't a problem, is there?

>>8774910
I find this hilarious. Above ALL ELSE, Jesus preached love. Love one another. Love your enemies, and your friends.

Want to know how to tell a follower of Jesus apart from a fake?
"By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
John 13:35

>>8774910
Jesus was the one who said turn the other cheek, the crusades were a political and military movement announced by the pope in response to the Muslim invasions and were designed to set up a buffer zone to protect Europe from the being invaded.

Religion offers nothing but conflict and trouble.
If only people could put away their silly beliefs and take to common sense the world would be a better place.

>>8774910
Brimstone and fire, crusades and murder.
That is not to say most other religions are any better with their demands to kill non-believers and those of other religions.

>>8774890
>That's about it, really.

>>8774903
I'm not one of the people claiming science is god.

I prefer to think that since I can't be sure of anything, all I have left is to love and also knowing that everything I experience is interpreted by myself and not entirely representative of "reality" outside of myself. So "letting go" and letting emptiness fill me with love and gratitude for conscious EXPERIENCE of anything is how I take it easy.

These things are too hard to put into words, let alone on 4chan.

>>8774919
We already know religious people are shallow hypocrites who pass the buck. Try again, nerd.

>>8774910
Something people like to forget is that the first crusades were self defense against invaders.
Jesus never said that you aren't allowed to defend yourself.

>>8774926
The boundary around Gensokyo is stated to be the border between dreams and reality, if I recall correctly. Also, read Reimu's speech in WaHH 9.

>>8774895
>fictional bullshit that does more harm than good to the world.
Saying something over and over again doesn't make it true.
Religion is the one of the main reasons why humanity advanced as far as it has.
You should really study history and anthropology before saying something as silly as "religion is evil and doesn't do any good".

>>8774898
The Greeks didn't start the sciences and most of those scientists/philosophers were heavily influenced by the beliefs of their time.

>>8774945
I've found the evidence of my statement about the barrier:

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Yukari_Yakumo
"Until then Gensokyo was merely an isolated mountain town, but she planned to create the boundary between illusion and reality around Gensokyo, thus logically creating a new world."

>>8774944
I'm sorry but no. It isn't. You forget Galileo and all those things throughout history? Science and mysticism were at one point united AGAINST religious institutions and were persecuted. Stop listening to your pastor and actually think.

Another thing, the psychological fallout of religion is still being effected and is as poisonous if not more so than culture. It suffocates who someone is with guilt and represses the self. So it should be purged.

>>8774944
Religion is also the reason we dont have houses on the moon.
Turns out religious people fear science and anything else that takes away the blindfolds from the sheep herd.

Why dont you go eat shit you gaylord?

>>8774958

>Thinks Christianity is just Catholics and pastors

You can't be an otaku and be a christian. Anime, Manga, VNs, touhou, image boards... all that shit is sinful.

Here is another thing, you fags are denying the crusades as religious and talking politics. It was still Xtian scums who were killing, torturing and ruining Europe. Let alone the murder of women in the witch trials stuff.

They said it was done in the name of religion and even if it was majorly politically motivated it still means the church is filled with hypocritical, murderous swine.

>>8774968
YOU SURE SHOWED HIM

>>8774892
That doesn't really answer my question. It's certainly a way to keep people believing in it but there is no real justification for it.

Sure, it's the lesser evil compared to small generic cults promoting violence but that does not answer the question why someone should simply accept that religion as truth.

>>8774962
Get off of /jp/, Newt.

>>8774975
see>>8774968

>>8774975
No, I do not believe that people who lack love so much as they do are Christian.

>>8774975
That's the human condition. You can blame religion but it's no more to blame than atheism is for the atrocities committed by Mao or Stalin. In truth twisted people will do cruel and evil things, some just use religion as an excuse.

>>8774984
But when Xtians do "good" things by your interpretation then you will claim them to be Xtian. You can't pick and choose, it's the history of your religion and the things your people did. Deal with it and stop passing the buck.

>>8774983
You aren't helping your case at all. What you are saying is irrelevant.

Your love for god is supposed to be absolute. Otaku are usually creeps that stay in all day and beat off to little girl cartoons who they love more than most things.

>>8774995
It is human condition apparently, but Xtians should be held accountable for their crimes.

I suppose you will be comfortable still saying that if a sandnigger kills your family for Islam too.

Maybe it's possible being a pure Christian and having this hobby.
>>8774541
>Violence and sex play big roles in anime.
It isn't prohibited to watch Violent things, and about the sex part, the prohibition goes to having impure thoughts guided by your lust.
>Touhou depicts many false gods (little g) which take away from God's (big G) glory.
As long you don't recognize'm as true gods you're doing it right.
>The Otaku lifestyle is one of sloth, greed, wrath, and lust.
- Sloth, study by yourself in your home something you can probably find interesting like Japanese, Programming, Drawing, etc...
- Greed, download only the things you're interested in don't be "Copy all links, download" and watch or use only the 1%
- Wrath, Do you really need to be angry for being a Otaku? Just, take it easy! like me, I don't even care if you're a possible troll or what the cooments about this post would be.
- Lust, That's probably the worst of all the things, this demands a lot of will, but luckily there are a lot of great non-H mangas without lust inducing scenes, you just need to search a little.
> Not only are members of this board jobless, they are jobless and proud of it.
You don't need to be proud of being jobless, as long you're not really proud you're fine with being jobless and Christian.
>Is anyone else on /jp/ a Christian?
Yes, me.
But I can't deal with the lust part, sometimes I feel horrible it would probably cost me some time in the purgatory, but I don't really care.
And I'm going to say something. The actual Church is bullshit, they are corromped by power and influence, and it isn't something new, at least it comes since The Middle Ages. Jesus was a great man whose actions are an example of how a Christian should try to be and the Church forgot it long time ago.

>>8775001
I didn't say that if they do "good" things they are Christian.

I said that if they lack love, they certainly are not.

On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. "Teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
"What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?"
He answered: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"
"You have answered correctly," Jesus replied. "Do this and you will live."
Luke 10.

All humans make mistakes and have sin. What's important is that they also have love.

Looking at the actions that those people took, I can say with a fair amount of certainty that they did not have love.

>>8774936
That's topical, given how Pearl Harbor was self-defense again the warmonger Roosevelt.

>>8775001
Really? I don't see the Pope applauding the charity acts of the KKK.

Christianity promotes purity in women and traditional wholesome family values, why do you guys hate it so much? If all girls were devout Christians who followed the lord, we wouldn't have so many sluts or half-breed children.

>>8775025
So does confucianism.

>>8775025
Muslims do that part even better to prevent sluts and whores and to keep females "pure"

>>8775012
In general, I don't like to generalize period. So I think each and every person should be accountable for their individual crimes and the majority should not be punished for the wrongs of the minority. If someone kills my Mom or something and they happen to islamic I'd hope that person would receive their due justice and probably do everything I could to make sure that would happen depending on my level of ANGST, but that doesn't mean all muslims are evil mother-killers.

>>8775034
Yeah but they are also savages.

>>8775020
No, they didn't, but they still did it under the banner of Christianity. And the church should be held accountable.

We aren't ever going to agree on this, our ideas on love would be too different. I'm an idealistic pacifist and at the end of the day religion segregates and divides so, I would like to see it go. Which puts me in a contradictory place but I'm not sure how to resolve that.

Any form of dogma makes me feel so sick I can't stand it.

Deceitful bullshit.

>>8775030
Confucianism promotes moral values that make a lot more sense than christian ones and don't force you to believe in some deity. Why don't you convert today?
Just kidding! You don't even need to convert or do stupid rituals.

>>8775047
Get out of /jp/, you filthy demon-loving heathen. I bet you worship the Gaian cult too.

>>8775045
Liberals are so repulsive. Today it's religion that's dividing the world, next it will be race, then it will be economic background, then something else.

Face it nerd, the world is never going to be a perfect place like your chinese cartoons.

>>8775059
Why is left dad gnashing?

>>8775055
I would rather live idealistically even if it is futile than give up and be a hypocrite who stops caring, then claims to be a Christian.

>>8775045
In the end PEOPLE divide and segregate naturally. You will never have a united humanity that thinks exactly alike, and diversity is what makes humanity interesting. Being open-minded also includes accepting dogmatic people.

>>8775030
We're talking about Religions. Also no one hates confucianism because is a good philosophic thought.
>>8775034
But Muslim is generally stupidly strict with the womens, I mean.
It's outrageous that a woman can be lapidated by being raped. Also the burkas and similars are offensive for the rights of a human being.

>>8775059
Well atleast the liberal father seems to have evolved arms. That's enough progress.

>>8775045
X claimed to be Y, so Y should take the blame?

I'm afraid I do not follow.

Why do humans look for someone to take responsibility for every single perceived wrong that is done to them? Even though many of the people they point at actually have nothing to do with it, they're so convinced that it's the truth, and they waste so much time pointing fingers. It's completely counter-productive, and yet, nowadays people have just learned to bend over and take it.

It's so foolish I can't stand to look at it.

>>8775061
Christians are the most caring people on earth, they give astronomically more amounts of money to charity than the average person. How much money to "realist" atheists give? Around nothing.

The world would be significantly better if everyone was a caring christian.

>>8775059
Why is the dad wearing a pleated pencil skirt?

>>8775065
I don't want people to think exactly alike. At all. I want people to be able to express themselves naturally without dogmatic guilt and non-sensical shit poisoning them.

Obviously my ideals are naive, I don't really mind. I'm not going to aim low to appease a Christian on 4chan. On /jp/.

>>8775080
Try harder, nerd. Feeling compelled to give to appease god is different than actually caring.

>>8775085
So you admit to being a naive idealistic child , then proceed to say you don't want to stoop down the our level? Bahahahahaha.

>>8775080
The world would be so much better if everyone wasn't a greedy, selfish asshole.

The only reason christians do those things is to feel better about themselves and a chance of being in heaven.

>>8775083
Crimes committed by an organ that has members that deny those people were a part of their organ, doesn't make the organ free of the burden of their past crimes.

>>8775093
Yes, I look down on and pity you.

>>8775090
"Y-yeah so they do nice things and live nice l-lives but they only do it for god!!!"

Edgy teenager logic at its finest.

Just give up. A good deed is a good deed. I don't think that the starving children who currently have food because of Christian generosity care about their reasons for donating.

>>8775097
Did you read what I said? This whole discussion on who is to take the blame is a complete waste of time.

>>8775101
So you want to live in a world where every is happy and united but then you look down on people that hold a dissenting view?

Liberal agenda in a nutshell.

>>8775102
No. You really are foolish. Replace god with ego in this case, it's the same fucking thing.

Doing good to pat yourself on the back, or to appease god, or to look good to other people makes you a disgraceful, selfish person.

>>8775104
The church that declared the war should take the blame though. Just as America should be held accountable for it's current crimes.

>>8775101
"I pity you" why does every internet argue devolve into someone saying this? Someone's gonna bring up Hitler soon.

>>8775047
SMT games are made by the devil, idiot. They're just trying to make you stray from the path of god. Haven't you noticed how idiotic, untrustworthy, and greedy the make angels and god out to be in those games?

>>8775094
We don't.

Grace implies undeserved mercy. Nothing we say or do will save us besides faith in Jesus. However, faith in Jesus demands that we emulate him to the best of our abilities. Thus comes charity.

Frankly, I would still "worship" God even if he didn't promise Heaven. Heaven is here, where people get along like brothers.

YHBT

>>8775094
refer to >>8775102

Are you atheists even trying? You're making this a little too easy, children.

>>8775102
And do you think that rich people are automatically good people because they donate huge amounts of money to charity just to keep society from looking down on them?

It's really strange in my opinion, that society these days looks down on people just for being rich, really. They apparently have to donate all this money just to make up for this supposed sin, and no matter how much they donate, nobody will believe they are good people.

I'm fine with what religion does.

I'm still wondering how anyone could believe in heaven, hell, god, angels(?) etc

It's literally the same as believing in Santa Claus

>>8775111
If you're so intent on blaming people for what happened centuries ago, then go find the Catholic church, rather than the Christian one.

>>8775114
No, they were made by humans. How narrow-minded of you.

>>8775107
>people who do good things and help people in need are selfish assholes because doing good makes them happy

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. So because they get a sense of happiness and feel closer to god by helping those in need , they are somehow in the wrong?

>>8775123
You're a good man and I agree, I'm thankful to God just because I can kick back and enjoy cute girls. If Heaven has more cute girls, the better.