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Is it possible for humans to become youkai? It seems that most of youkais are born.

>> No.8763876

Youkai is just a plot device.

>> No.8763873
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8763873

Yes. Usually through long use of magic, like Alice. Or special-case circumstances, like Mokou.

>> No.8763883

It is possible for some, but not for you, OP. I can tell from your aura.

>> No.8763881

And what religion might you be from? Hmmm?

>> No.8763885

>>8763873
>there's no replies
>there's
>replies
>there is replies
>is
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>> No.8763891

>>8763885
There ARE no replies.

>> No.8763894

>>8763883
That's good to know.

>> No.8763898

If I kill and eat other persons, will I become a youkai?

>> No.8763907

Known methods to become a supernatural creature (not necessarily youkai, immortals too) include turning into a demon out of excess lust (Kiyohime), anger (Taira no Masakado), covetousness (Mugenyama temple bell, Raigo Anjari), religious zeal (monks turning into oni to protect their temples from evil), pride (tengu) and presumably any other emotion in its extreme, dying with regrets (a lot, for example dorotabo), dying with a single purpose in mind (a lot, for example inugami), starving (itsumaden), eating mermaid flesh or liver (Yaobikuni), stopping blood, air or semen flow for 1000 days (Taoist monks), straying from the Buddhist path or living a sinful life (most youkai), stealing money or oil (dodomeki and abura-akago), being a slut (sazae-oni), being wronged in some way (tenome), living or existing for long periods of time (many animal-base demons, for example nekomata, also tsukumogami), special rituals (ungaikyou), killing a certain demon or a number of demons (ushi-oni), being killed by certain demons (funayurei), somehow fusing yourself with an object (biwa-yanagi, but there's no ritual or anything for this, dude dropped his biwa into water, a whirlpool sucked him up and when he came to himself he was half fucking lute.), excessive dieting (futakuchi-onna), dying without fulfilling a promise (zashiki-warashi) and so on. You can also be born that way and not know it (rokurokubi).

>> No.8763910

>>8763907
What a fucking autist.

>> No.8763917

>>8763907
How much of a hubristic asshole must I become to turn into a tengu?This is important, I must know.

Also, if straying off the buddhist path and living a sinful live turns you into a youkai, then /jp/ is guaranteed to be reborn as youkais in Gensokyo.

>> No.8763921

>>8763907
...out of the blue, something interesting.

>> No.8763925

>>8763917
But not many of us are Buddhist.

>> No.8763932

>>8763917
You must be at least a lvl. 16 asshole.

>> No.8763941

>>8763907

>anger (Taira no Masakado)
what's superntural about this? the flying head?

>> No.8763944

>>8763907
Thank you for posting that. Do you know more about becoming yokai?

>> No.8763949

>>8763907
cool

>> No.8763991

>>8763907
>dying with a single purpose in mind (a lot, for example inugami)
my only purpose in life is to become an eternal loli god.
>straying from the Buddhist path or living a sinful life (most youkai)
i was never a buddhist, and i wouldn't call the neet life the most virtuous.

also
>being a slut (sazae-oni)
sanae confirmed for youkai. it even sounds kind of like her, just replace z with n.

>> No.8764012

>>dying with a single purpose in mind (a lot, for example inugami)

What about suicide with intention of opening portal to Gensokyo?

>> No.8764022

>>8764012
You will become Yukari with the ability to make portals.

>> No.8764043

>living a sinful life (most youkai)
What is Youmu's sin?

>> No.8764047

>>8763941
Yeah, yukkuri Masakado was pretty supernatural. He even has a bank account opened in his name to placate him, thus being the richest ghost on Earth.

>>8764012
Inugami creation involves burying a dog with only its head free, placing food just outside its reach, letting it starve and then killing it in the most painful way available (beheading by bamboo saw usually) just before it dies from hunger, so that its vengeful spirit can return in search of food. If your desire to become a demon can beat the starving dog's base instinct to eat, see you in Gensokyo.

>> No.8764061

>>8764043
Being soft

>> No.8764075

>>8764061
Youmu is a softy?

>> No.8764077

>>8764075
Only if you stick her with a knife, she's like butter then.

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>>8764061
So soft

>> No.8764093

>>8764077
W-Would she be interested in a live demonstration? I happen to have a `knife' right here.

>> No.8764110

>>8764047
>yukkuri Masakado
okay I giggled, but its not that I know more than before

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>>8764093
Take a shot.

>> No.8764122 [DELETED] 

>>8764110
Well, he's essentially thought as a demon because scary shit happened repeatedly whenever people tried to fuck with his grave (his head's grave, rather) so he's thought to hang around his small shrine even now. He's more of a ghost though.

>> No.8764128

>>8764110
Well, he's essentially thought as a demon because scary things happened repeatedly whenever people tried to fuck with his grave (his head's grave, rather) so he's said to hang around his small shrine even now. He's more of a ghost though.

>> No.8764136

>>8764116
DeWd, that's hot.

>> No.8764142

>>8763907
Stop semen flow for 1000 days?
I'll start tomorrow. If by the 1000th day I am not a youkai, I'm gonna be so mad that my desire to become a youkai will exceed my baser instincts and hopefully I will turn into one anyway.

>> No.8764146

>>8763907
I'm pretty sure that most youkai weren't originally human, dude. In fact, a lot of the stuff you're saying here seems to be misinformation. For example, a Sazae-Oni has nothing to do with being a slut. It's a turban shell that turned into a youkai, not a human.

But you're right about things like, for example: excessively strong feelings turning you into a youkai. It's a well known fact that humans were said to turn into Tengu due to their pride and arrogance, etc.

However, we're not just talking about your everyday dude who thinks he's better than everyone else. A babby like that will never ever become a Tengu. If they could, then everyone would be a Tengu. Therefore, it seems logical that for all "excessively strong feelings" transformations, you'll need to break the scouters with your feeling level. Take, for example, Black Star from Soul Eater. With his level of pride, you might be able to become a Tengu.

>> No.8764156

>>8764146
Sorry, I meant to say that a Sazae-Oni is a turban SNAIL, not shell.

>> No.8764166

Watch Hotarubi no Mori e

>> No.8764202

>>8764146
Sazae-oni are sluts who died near the sea, turned into turban shells and lived for 30 years in that form before becoming sluts again. They're human fair and square, though I guess there are a bunch of variants on the story. It's true that most youkai aren't originally human, but there are many who are, and if you count the preta as youkai too then there's an awful lot of them.

>> No.8764214

>>8764166
That was sad.

>> No.8764242

>>8764202
...Alright, well I have no idea whether there's really a story like that, so I guess I'll just take your word for it. At any rate, you do seem to know a lot, which is really interesting to me. Where did you get all of your information?

>> No.8764298

>>8764242
Internet. Most of the more obscure information is in Japanese, and possibly Chinese for things like Hundun and friends (well, those aren't really youkai though) but I know jack about Chinese. Obakemono Project forums is probably the best for English information. Also, Mizuki Shigeru's books and Toriyama Sekien's illustrations. Lafcadio Hearn for English stories. Journal of Asian Studies. Kojiki, Nihongi, Heike Monogatari, Uji Shui Monogatari.

There's probably a lot more but I'm not really knowledgeable on Japanese mythology and don't want to recommend things I haven't read.

>> No.8767764

>>8764214
What was sad?

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