/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Lossless albums:
Ar tonelico Music Collection Torrent: http://www.bakabt.com/153236-ar-tonelico-music-collection.html
All tracks are encoded in FLAC format and include scans of covers and booklets. Torrent does not include AT3's Drama and Hymmnos Musical discs.

Alternative set of torrents:
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

CADENA ~Atelier Series Jazz Arrange Album Featuring Mami Horie Vol.1~
http://www.sonixgvn.net/2011/06/cadena-atelier-series-jazz-arrange.html

Istoria~Kalliope, Akiko Shikata's latest album:
http://www.mediafire.com/?683lw3wgor7aaou
http://www.mediafire.com/?avz1a3afvjo6xzf
http://www.mediafire.com/?c55pz0qs0wh0i3x

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Mediafire Folder of Ar tonelico / Atelier goodies:
http://www.mediafire.com/?rddbnsio6dayi

Contents:
- AT1-3 OST, Hymmnos Concerts
- AT1-2 Drama CDs, Hymmnos Musicals
- Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ (Album)
- AT3 Artbook
- Offline AT2 Flash Cosmospheres
- AT3 Yokkora fan disc
- original /jp/ stuff

New GUST series directed by TOTAL COMMAND: "Surge Concerto"
First installment on Vita: "Ciel no Surge", JP release on April 26th 2012

Upcoming releases (JP):

New series "Surge Concerto", first installment "Ciel no Surge" (2012/04/26, PS Vita)
http://surge-concerto.com/
PV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUWSVcQS5vw
Additional Info
http://andriasang.com/objncj/surge_concerto_ciel_nosurge/

Atelier Asha: Alchemist of Twilight (2012/06/28, PS3)
http://andriasang.com/con0e7/atelier_asha/


Upcoming releases (NA/EU):

Atelier Meruru - May 2012
http://nisamerica.com/games/atelier-meruru/

>The game will have a command battle system with a newly added "cost" element. Enemy position is a central element to strategy, as it seems that attacking more distant enemies will require additional cost.

I wonder how that will play out.. either way I'm quite excited for a new Atelier title. More info can't come fast enough.

>Ayesha Artool (voiced by Marina Inoue)

All of my money. I wonder how much they'll change the game system. Kinda hoping the game will be similar to Mana Khemia.

>Staring 17-year-old Asha Artool, a girl looking for her missing sister Nio Artool. Asha believes her sister may be alive, and goes on a journey to find her.
Really guys

>>8763682
We'll have to see how it develops from there, and if the characters are actually likable

For the love of all that is good put an endless mode to the next atelier.

>>8764054
Don't tell us tell Gust!

THE MOST EXCITING VIDEO GAME GENERAL OF THE WEEK HAS FINALLY COME!

>>8763619
>>Ayesha Artool (voiced by Marina Inoue)
>>character designs by Hidari

Can't wait dude. Hopefully fanart on Pixiv will start appearing too.

Just failed the sixth assignment in Rorona because I was killing vultures in the wrong area.

I want to hang myself.

>>8765783
Saves are your friends, silly.

>>8765411
We had quality Ion rape on Pixiv within days of her unveiling. It will be here in moments I bet.

>>8765853

Can it really be considered 'rape'?

>>8765411
congrats on the marriage

http://andriasang.com/con0en/atelier_ayesha_modeling/

Looks like Gust is using 3D models for events in Atelier Ayesha. Hopefully they're pretty decent since it's hard to beat some 2D sprites/CG.

>>8767392

oh oh...

>>8767392
So who is the artist for this new atelier?

>>8767495
Have you read anything but the last post? Probably not...

>At the game's unveiling last week, Gust announced the voice actresses, but did not share the character names or the new character designer. Dengeki reveals the designer to be Hidari (known for the Fractal anime).

I know GUST want to keep their works fresh, but fuck them all, I really like Nagi's and Mel's arts...

Do they mean actual cutscenes or like Neptunia MK2?

So I've been playing mk2 and decided to do the ruler/bad end first as suggested in the last thread and... Oh god, what have I done? ;_; What heartless bastard put this scenario in the game?

>>8767536

We all do, good sir. But there's honestly nothing wrong with Hidari so I'm not that bothered.

Ayesha Altugle.

Gust's naming sense hasn't gotten any better, I see.

>>8771214
>Ayesha
I knew a girl called that. Although it was spelled "Eisha" not whatever the hell they've done there.
Altugle is quite retarded though.

>>8771214
http://andriasang.com/con0e7/atelier_asha/
Isn't it Artool?

>>8771291

>>8771320
Those backgrounds are looking gorgeous.

>>8771320
I would pronounce the Katakana as "Artool" but the side very clearly reads "Altugle". Shall we assume it's another case of the Japanese failing to romanise names correctly?

>>8771365
Altugle sounds a fair bit more European than Artool.

>>8771365

...but that's how it would be pronounced. The g is silent.

>>8771320
Oh wow, this looks great.

>>8771320
Not feeling for the character design. She looks like she's trying to be a Christmas Cake but failing at it.

Those backgrounds though. They're gorgeous.

>>8771587

Just what kind of Christmas Cakes are you...

Finally got around to playing through Art 1. Was rather enjoyable actually, I was worried because I'd heard people say you shouldn't play it after playing ArT 2.

Though it would have been a smoother play through if I could have a found a complete walk through instead of having to keep track of 5 different lists and I still missed some talk topics.

What's a big thing that speaks for Atelier games? Besides the beautiful art I mean. I've never played one before.

>>8771961
Spending hours in menus picking what items to make.

Seriously you'd better like menus.

>>8771961

I've only played Iris, Mana-Khemia, and Arland series.

Iris is pretty much a standard jrpg with a plot and item creation.
Mana-Khemia is school hijinks and item creation.
Arland is slice of life with item creation.

So basically, you go around beating up monsters and collecting ingredients and then make things with those ingredients.

I like Arland series best, especially Totori. It's nice and relaxing and I like the adventurer license system, which is a little ingame achievement/trophy thing. I'd recommend Rorona first though, but the system is a bit clunky.

>>8771961
All the new atelier games are time management games as far as I know, I don't play them because of that.

Played Iris 2 and Mana Khemia though and they were both enjoyable. And pretty much what this anon said>>8772006

>>8771923
> I was worried because I'd heard people say you shouldn't play it after playing ArT 2.
I can't even live normally without replaying both games every year. Of course AT2 is generally considered the best of this series (so far), but it doesn't mean you should skip any AT game just because you have played AT2. That's not even a fallacy, just plain stupid.

And if I remember correctly, there is a talk topic guide on gamefaqs.

>>8772026
Yea I was using that but for example...

>Expires: If you didn't craft the Ocarina while Misha was out of your party, or
if you crafted it while she was in the party.

This wasn't helpful at all given I didn't know when in the story she would or would not be with me and none of my saves were back far enough without being too far back.

And all the dialogue text was just in the way, I had to copy/paste/edit that guide heavily to make it useful. It also seemed to be missing a couple topics.

Hey guys is having Croix fall through the floor when near boxes considered a sprite glitch or is that just a quirk of using this undubbed version?

>>8772077
Don't mind it, it just happens.

>>8772079
You say that but it's damn annoying especially when I own the localized version, I'm not sure trading the raki bug for this box bug is very fun.

>>8772108
It doesn't happen much.

>>8772111
It's happened on every single box I've walked up to. If I don't let go of the stick Croix wanders around in an abyss.

Oh well trying it with the latest svn version, will report back results.

>>8772140
Never saw this bug myself when I played the undubbed game a few years back.

>>8772146
Every time I walk into the corner of a box he falls through the floor.

And oh good the revision I'm trying to fix that is causing this.

>>8772167
Use native resolution in your video settings.

>>8772140
>>8772167

Update on that; it doesn't happen in r5135, but all dialogues have very noticeable boxes around the faces.

Kinda strange how finicky this is being while I had no problems with the first game...

>>8772235
No, seriously, use native resolution in your video settings. You don't need the texture filtering for Ar tonelico anyway, they're all sprites.

>>8772216
>>8772252
woops you're right forgot to change that.

Everything seems to work right now.

Guys I just found the turbo and slowmo commands in PCSX. I'm in love bring on dem grinds.

http://atelier-ps3.jp/ayesha/

My body is ready for Monday.

And here I thought Meruru would be the last game I'd buy.

Dontforgetyourehereforever.jpg

http://exhentai.org/g/478746/26dcbb888d/

It's happening!

>>8774591
>>Shurelia

I came.

>>8774605
congrats on the marraige

>>8774591
So lewd, so wonderful.

>>8774591
>Wedding dress Shurelia
I needed a mop for this.

Sup Shurelia.

>>8775546
The fuck is this from?

>>8775642
sword girls

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=TVG-PS3-1336

It's up.

Yup, definitely gorgeous.

Shouldn't this be on /vg/?

>>8776369
/jp/ stuff is allowed to stay on /jp/, even if it would fit on another board. These threads count as /jp/ related, so they're allowed here.

>>8774591

And yet the AT3 one still isn't up yet.. ;_;

>>8776382
so touhou anime would be on /jp/..

>>8776369
Yes, a mod even explicitly said so. However these have sort of been forced under the /jp/ umbrella, and mods have since said they can go in either board. It's one thread so just ignore it and move on. Don't treat it as a precedent for "video game generals are allowed in /jp/" (fuck people who do this).

>>8776382
Don't reply to these autistic trolls, just ignore them.

Anyway, NISA announced 3 games yesterday (fuck yeah giant tits witch). Now I have some hope that they'll announce Ayesha or Ciel no Surge in their next round of announcements...

Of course that means we likely won't see an English version for at least a year.

;_;

>>8779198
"Hey guys, video game generals belong in /v/. Actually, now that a Video Game Generals board exists, they belong i-"
"FUCK YOU YOU'RE AUTISTIC LOL LOOK AT THIS AUTISTIC FAGGOT BEING AUTISMAL AS FUCK! lolololol"

Nice try.

>>8779198
Plenty of time to never get around to finishing Meruru before it comes out.

Maybe I'll even be done when it ships!

Either way I'm not complaining.

Don't video game general threads belong on /vg/?

does someone have the mod's response about gust threads being /jp/ material, and reporting people who post the gb2/vg/ stuff so they can be banned for spam?

>>8781826

Here;

I created a summary of the three most important posts from different Gust threads

you are free to use it

>>8775794
I have to agree. As much as I love Kishida's art, the new style is a welcome change.

>>8783918
You got a lot of explaining to do.

My favourite video game.

>>8784016
It can be explained in two words: /vp/ drawthread

>>8784808

oh is that you, drawfag?

>>8783752
I don't like the idea of 3D CG for events. Is this artist lazy or something?

>>8785287
That isn't the artist's decision, you know.

>>8785471
How can you know that, huh, HUH?

>>8761979
Only if I can light up the night.

>>8784956
So yeah, I'm fighting a guy with a lot more experience fighting than I have.

>>8785880
>>8785978
What the hell is going on?

>>8785471
I hope so, that's a hot one :p

>>8785978

wait what?

http://andriasang.com/con0ge/surge_concerto_screens/

http://andriasang.com/con0gd/atelier_ayesha_screens/

>>8787681
>Time gauge
NOPE

>>8787681
http://andriasang.com/con0ge/surge_concerto_screens/images/23vd4/
Daaaaaaamn.

A question. Are the PS3 games being ripped and uploaded systematically? It has happened for almost every console before it, but I want to be sure. Maybe in the far future I'll be able to play all those games.

>>8787756
Yes, too bad Ciel Nosurge is for Vita.
Not all new games are immediately playable due to firmware issues. Also, I stopped using custom firmware, I find the online features of a PS3 far more worth than free games, I'm not poor anyway so why the hell not.

Amiami exclusive bonus on top of the preorder bonus if you buy this one http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=TVG-PS3-1340

I'm reminded why I love this game.

>>8788950
Doesn't Mir get a kick out of that one during bath time?

>>8788621
Well, unlike Ciel Nosurge, we know this one is getting a localization, so why import?

>>8789777
Just posting for those of us who can play it in Japanese. The Japanese LE's do have some very nice bonus items, after all.

>>8789803
I can play in japanese, it's just that importing is so fucking expensive plus is LE. I mean fuck, it's 9,520 JPY without shipping.

>>8784808
This needs to add the battle Maids.

http://andriasang.com/con0gk/game_over/
April Fools?

Cool SUPER ENGRISH site Gust.

>>8790300
To quote one of the comments:

"Weren't they supposed to be launching a teaser site for a new game today? Pretty sure this is just a [rather strange] tease for Neptune 3."

>>8792676
HYPERDIMENSION NEPTUNIA QOGA

>>8792821
Oh this reminds me, why was the word Qoga used for AT3, isn't it a New Pastalie word?

>>8792857
It certainly sounds like it, doesn't it?

But no, it's not attributed to any dialect.

>>8790300
It has to be, since Neptunia is Compile Heart's best selling franchise and to cancel it would be suicide.

Although in Noire's blog Neptune claims that she is quitting, then the blog got discontinued as well.

>>8793466

>janitor-kun.

So you, the guy who always argue against the AT thread, don't even know about the meido?

Leave /jp/ and never come back.

What the fuck, you moderate the GUST thread even when it's not on the front page? Why don't you give the same treatment to other threads? Or, y'know, pages themselves. Go look at page 5 you stupid faggot.

>>8793512
>Now that /vg/ has popped up, there's no reason to stay here.
How many of you have tried /vg/ threads? Oh right, zero, because "/jp/ is better xD". Better make some Ayn Rand threads on /jp/ too!

>>8793512
Why isn't this post getting deleted?

>>8793519

You can't read the text in the pic?

Stop wasting our oxygen and kill yourself.

>>8793533
Neither can you, apparently.

I wish moot had renamed this board to /dg/ when he mentioned it. These threads are only here because ZUN!bar liked them and newfags think he wasn't always a shitposter. Even AoC hated you faggots.

>>8793519
I post in /vg/. Discussion over here is better due to people not asking the same question that can be found earlier in the 800 post thread.

>>8793541
Don't put words in my mouth, I already told you people that I disliked having to deal with them because it was the same shit all the time. "this is not related to the board" every single day, and when I finally got around and played AT3, it was a visual novel with some gameplay tacked on.

How can you people still argue the same thing for years, specially after the mods were so clear about it, is beyond me.

>>8793553

>How can you people still argue the same thing for years

The fifth annual World Autism Awareness Day is April 2, 2012. Every year, autism organizations around the world celebrate the day with unique fundraising and
awareness-raising events.

Real AoC here. I loathed these threads with a passion, but I had to protect them from spam like any other. /vg/ exists now, so I don't know what the staff are doing by letting them stay here.

Oh boy, here we go again

>>8793578
Like AoC writes like that.

>>8793329
Seriously?, I mean, it's on exec_over.method_Sublimation

>>8793676
Like what? Disagreeing with you?

>>8782414

fixed my old picture

Just ask the mods in IRC. Usually "It's not (primarily) a VN and it's not doujin" is enough for them to agree it should be deleted. Then the OP is usually banned for "videogames thread".

Wouldn't surprise me if he's ban evading, actually. If a mod is reading this, can you check the logs? He's been doing this for a while.

>>8793732
Please refer to >>8793717
Mods are not going to care unless it's some outsider that doesn't know about the games.

>>8793739
"They're so kawaii and otaku and have waifus" isn't a reason. Tales games have VN elements. Persona games are similar. The Final Fantasy series has a larger otaku fanbase than all the GUST games combined. Yet those are (rightfully) prohibited because they're off-topic.

JRPGs go in /v/. As of a few weeks ago, we have a board called Video Game Generals. Guess where a recurring, long-lasting JRPG general goes?

>>8793753
You would think that constantly having your posts deleted would be painstakingly obvious that you are the one in the wrong.

>>8793753
We must be using different definitions of otaku.

>>8793753

It's a complete farce. moot could make a /gust/ board and they'd probably still post here, because the 'userbase is better' or whatever. If I'd left 4chan for a year and someone told me moot made a Video Games General board but the GUST threads were still being posted in /jp/, I honestly wouldn't believe them. The fact that they're being PROTECTED is a joke.
/jp/ decides what /jp/-related is. When a thread meets with this much resistance (to the point where some threads have had more DELETED posts than active posts) then I think the staff should agree it goes elsewhere.

>>8793779
But the deleted posts are all one guy.

>>8793766
Are you saying otaku DON'T like Final Fantasy? Under any sense of the word, more otaku like Final Fantasy than GUST. It's a more otaku-appealing game, because *gasp* otaku like FF.

>>8793788
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S8647718
All of these people--often posting multiple times in the same minute--are all the same person.

>>8793789

>Are you saying normals DON'T like Final Fantasy? Under any sense of the word, more normals like Final Fantasy than GUST. It's a more mainstream game, because *gasp* normals like FF.

fix'd.

Now, go and die in a fire.

Everyone knows that the attempts to get /v/ and /vg/ threads out of /jp/ is a conspiracy all by one person/group.

>>8793793
It very possible.

>>8793779
You're delusional, and most of the troll posts were by one of the guys in the defunct SHITPOSTER group.

Notice how a lot of it stopped? He got bored because you other faggots picked up on his solo gig and it wasn't hip to trash anymore. Not to mention a mod got all up in it and made it popular.

You're like, a neo-hipster. Not even hipster enough to hate while the hating is hipster. Just plain late to the scene. Stay neo.

>>8793801
As a backup to my claim that it is possible

>6 days
>100 replies

Why does it need a general again?

>>8793819
People get bored because...well, people get bored.
A government could keep pushing for the same law or tax and no matter how much opposition it's initially met with, it will die down. Of course some people will always complain, and new people will join the cause, but eventually people will stop bothering. Yes this is a flawed analogy because it matters in the real world, but it shows even a large community of varied people do get tired of complaining. That's what happened. As a result, the janitor is now pandering to the people who like these threads. They used to get 2 or 3 regular posters, now they get dozens.

It's like the JBCS threads. Started out as spam/shitposting/off-topic to the point where scripts were developed to get rid of them, but now they're quaint and barely anyone complains, so the new janitors leave them.

>>8793819
Also, it's pretty hilarious how you some of you are seriously trying this two years after the fact.

I mean, it's one thing for a guy to troll around doing it because he's bored, but it's utterly hilarious to watch you neos try and imitate him while not even realizing you're regurgitating things he posted ad nauseum two years prior.

>>8793827
I don't doubt it. I myself could very easily queue up posts with different writing styles and proxies and whatnot. However it's stupid to think that it's all one or two people. A LOT of people hate these threads. They just put up with them. Hell, even a member of staff said this at one point. Then /vg/ was created, a mod intervened, they came out of the woodworks.
We have better things to do than complain all day (most of the time), but that doesn't mean we approve of your off-topic video games threads.

So the general stance of GUSTfags is that it's all one guy or the shitposter group?

...am I being trolled?

>>8793832
Everybody knows that GUST threads are crossboard content, but people only care to shitpost here when they are bored.

The funniest thing though is the OP, the dude absolutely wants his general, no matter how slow it is, no matter how few things there are to discuss. He just wants his own permanent thread. /vg/ is too fast (6 days, 100 replies, this can't work), so /jp/ is the perfect place for him.

>>8793863
You're a pretty pathetic bunch if someone you yourself are insulting had to make /vg/ threads for you (after a 4chan mod even told you to do so).

>>8793863
There's no "revival".
That's the thing, nobody cares since it's just OP obsessed with his 24/7 GUST thread.
But sometimes, when people get bored, this kind of drama inducing threads get covered in shit. That's what you get for trying to force "Me, Myself, and I" on a board.

>>8793849
It was largely one guy, some time ago. It isn't now.

Now it's neo-hipsters and whiny little bitches. Personally, I fucking hate general threads. They go against everything that moot said 4chan was intended for: spontaneous topics and discussions in an image board environment. However, I hate these neo shits even more than I hate generals.

I bet you can find nearly perfect replications of most of their posts in the threads of two years prior. It's not even amusing to look at. It's not even trolling. It's just disgusting.

>>8793880
I'm not the guy you're replying to or that guy, but I've been intermittently complaining about these threads for a loooong time. I just can't be fucked to do it every day.

>>8793541
But instead of making /dg/, moot said, "I'm not going to make /dg/ for you. Learn to ignore shit you don't like." Truly life in /jp/ is an unending tragedy.

>>8793880
>You're probably the autist that was making the /vg/ threads.
Typical buttmad GUSTfag: anyone who disagrees with me is a spammer and should be banned.

>>8793889
We shouldn't even have moderation. Let's see how far "ignore shit you don't like" gets us.

Maybe it would actually work, like Usenet.

>>8793893
Typical spammer: everybody who doesn't dislike my spam is a GUSTfag.

So why are the meta posts getting deleted except for >>8793533, >>8793543 and >>8793717? I kind of see the logic in having other people explain your actions as a janitor, but you're deleting one half of an argument, all of which shouldn't (by your apparent logic) belong.

Especially when you look at the screenshot in >>8793717. Someone was banned for pretty much the same thing--justifying themselves in a neutral tone. But now that people are fighting on the opposite side, their posts are to be left? My brain is confused.

>>8793903
Not him but the guy in the post (you? Who knows) is clearly a regular to these threads. Your argument isn't exactly witty...

>>8793914
And from yet a different guy: I frequent /vg/ since it takes a whole 3 seconds to look through the catalog and find what I'm looking for.

There's been a Gust thread once on /vg/. And it was precisely when it was linked from the /jp/ thread. There's been four or five Meruru threads but they never last long.

Someone made the thread specifically to link here and use, regardless of which side it was intended to detract from.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/02/atelier-ayesha-doesnt-put-you-on-the-clock-when-it-comes-to-fin
ding-your-sister/

No time limits.

>>8793990

Finally!
Thank you gust!

>>8793990
Fuck
Yes

>>8793990
Glad they finally decided to get rid of that. The time limit looming over your head the entire game really sucks out a lot of enjoyment. Rather feel like I'm having fun than trying to meet deadlines like I'm at university.

>>8790300
April Fool's joke or teaser for the next game, doesn't matter to me, but that sad Neptune makes my chest hurt.

;_;

>>8793990

Glad we are getting back to the Atelier roots.

>>8794718
Right, because some of the very first Atelier games didn't have time limits.... OH WAIT

I just want another Mana Khemia ;_;
Or another Atelier focused on combat. They did it so well in MK and even in AI3/Proto-MK (aside from the lack of challenge). The last three lost all that battle fun, mostly by making every single attack that five times as long and dragging battles out to fuckall. Sigh.

>>8794781
My opinion, AI3 is not that good, but i remember when i win against time mana, fucking awesome boss battle.
Take me almost one hour to beat it.
The final boss, in the other hand, so easy to beat.

Gust is able to make some really awesome battle systems. I sure wouldn't mind them doing another game with better battles and.. better battle music. (Rorona was so damn lackluster in that department, haven't played Totori or Meruru yet though)

But I doubt it will happen in the next game, given how long they needed to develop their system on the ps2. In Atelier Iris it was still relatively standard, it took 3years till Mana Khemia. Although Atelier Iris 2's battles were also quite fun. Just a lot worse looking than Mana Khemia's.

>>8794787
AI3's was definitely on the side of far too easy to be interesting, but aside from the party mechanics, it's practically identical to MK's. You can even see what attacks directly became what between the two. You could solve some of AI3's issues just by bumping the difficulty up, but it was still too simple to be great. Seriously, a 100% auto kill attack that worked on most bosses? What the fuck were they thinking?

>>8794787
But did you ever defeat the Vengeance Puni?

Atelier Ayesha feels and looks too dark. Listened to the sample BGMs and there's this eerie feel in them. A change of pace? I'm sold for this game, but I'm not really sure for those who are used to the light-hearted Arland world.

>>8795350
http://youtu.be/9H1-So_1goY

Still sound eerie to you?

Please post video game general threads in >>>/vg/ in future.

>post with capcode
>janitor deletes post

Welp, looks like I'm going to have to have a talk with moot, young man!

>>8795883
I can practically hear the tormented screams of children in the distance.

Hey guys, this should go in >>>/vg/.

>>8796321
It can go in either board, we've been over this.

>>8795350
Track B on the site is pretty good, though. I could listen to that one for hours.

>>8796321
Thanks, I'll move it over there once this one dies.

>janitor deletes our /jp/ threads
>posts shitty /vg/ ones instead

>>8796937
It used to be only Ar Tonelico. But when people made other threads with the other games, people begged them to post about it in the Ar Tonelico threads for some reason. And here we are.

Ar Tonelico is also unquestionably /jp/ material. It's hard to be more of a galge.

>>8796937

>janitor deletes our /jp/ threads

What /jp/ threads? Flying Flan, JBCS and wch 2ho wld yu fuk?

>>8793990

>No time limits.

.. Is this real life?

>>8797577
The only time limit will be the end of the world.
Probably you'll see everything dying if you don'ty end fast enough.

For those who haven't seen this yet.
Little system details and story information.
http://digifreaks.tumblr.com/post/20114229373/summary-of-atelier-ayesha-information

>>8797760
>The story takes place in a world where a brilliant civilisation is coming to an end and people are slowly living out their peaceful lives in this period of dusk.
>[A/n: Bad translation here…but it’s really hard to translate that line and it’s really not that important]

Makes it sound like some Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou style end of the world. No big deal, I'm sure.

I'm saving this thread.

Shouldn't this be on /vg/?

Pardon me for asking, I'm new here. :)

>>8797760
>>8799042
Makes it sound a bit like Majora's Mask.
I never liked time limits in RPGs, because it's like tedium², but if Ayesha has no true time limit this might be the first Atelier game I play.

>>8799892

It needed saved with only 3 hours from the previous post? /jp/ being raided again?

I guess I am the last person to realize that Meruru is up for preorder on NISA. I am expecting it's going to be a mess just like MK2 to get stuff out on time

>>8797760
"It is an evolved form of the Development System in Meruru and will be closely related to the development of the story as well."

I am still not sure how this works still.

>>8801430
The day they announced that they will be packing t-shirts with the LE's, I bunkered down for an inevitable shipping delay.

>>8801512
Delays for the disc printing, delays for the t-shirt printing, delays caused by the delays.

I'll be happy if I'm playing it before June.

>>8801600

MK2 limited editions were delayed like a week. If I had known that NISA has such a horrible and long history of shipment problems I would have paid for express delivery but they wanted $20 for something domestic which was completely out of the question for me.

>>8801600

Poor NISA, I wonder if they'll ever get it right.

And let the Ayesha fanart begin.

I got the Kara Cola Orgel album and while I am loving it, some of the song choices are... weird, to say the least. Misha's Purger? Method Metafalica?

How come we don't have Reisha's Lullaby? That one seemed fairly obvious for an orgel version...

>>8806914
Shikata Akiko didn't sing it.

>>8806914
Ishibashi Yuuko was the singer for Reisha and Frelia, as well as for Claire in AT1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuuko_Ishibashi

Don't these threads belong on /vg/?

>>8807786
That's kind of a given. They get a free pass here because our janitor likes them. Don't like it? Tough shit.

>>8807786
Sometimes I suspect the OP posting these messages to save the thread from auto deletion.

I really need to find a subject to make a General Thread on. Something I could bump once or twice a day and have my very own permanent thread on /jp/.

how can we add voice sounds in the game? the only damn clue I know is there's file a-ar2undub.sfv here -_- sry if this is a silly question I'm still new using this 'PCSX' thing

>>8805366

Well at least alternative options for buying the standard game still exist like before. Amazon is listing it.

My money, and my soul, take it!
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=CGD2-27865&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3
Dmeruru%24pagemax%3D100%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1

>>8810083
Why aren't we getting THAT with our preorders?!

>>8811207
I'd imagine something like that is a bit more expensive to make than the barrel shirt.

And though a lot of the target demographic for Meruru has little to no shame, a barrel shirt is more likely to actually be worn than a shirt of a little girl in a cleavage-revealing outfit.

Tonelico a shit.
Totori a shit.

>>8811256
>Tonelico
Full retard

>>8811228

In my opinion a barrel shirt has a LOT of style. It pretty much embodies what Atelier Iris is. Very similar to a "prinny shirt" (or simply everything prinny) for NIS/Disgaea stuff.
It's superior to a shirt with one hero/heroine in any way. (Especially because you don't even know if you'll like her and so on)

I'd personally LOVE to get my hands on a barrel shirt, but it's way too expensive. (I'd assume around 40Euro or so, given that I'd need to import the limited edition and stuff) I'll probably just buy the game from my local amazon, will be a damn lot cheaper.

>>8811228
>And though a lot of the target demographic for Meruru has little to no shame[...]
[citation needed]

>a barrel shirt is more likely to actually be worn than a shirt of a little girl in a cleavage-revealing outfit.
Yeah, they really should have had Meruru wear a burka so it's socially acceptable. Showing skin? Unfathomable.

>>8811207

Cheaper to make a barrel shirt and it'd at least be usable to most people as I doubt many people would be seen walking around in public with Meruru on their chest. I can only imagine the delays if NISA used the Meruru shirt instead..

I seem to be having this problem.. How can I fix it?

>>8813090
>Facebook

After almost two months I was able to finally unwrap MK2 and start playing it for real. I really love the combat system so far but the guild quest stuff is tedious and boring. I really wish that they could have come up with something more than "kill 10 of these monsters or collect 5 of these".

Music is surprisingly upbeat as well.

>>8813090

Config => Video => Plugin => Original PS2 resolution check it.

And the next time look first in the archive.

Fuck, i can't fin an Ar Tonelico pic with someone pointing into the upper right.

>>8813172
Careful when doing Lastation sponsored quests. You can lock yourself out of recruiting Noire on the first playthrough if you aren't careful. You can't take shares from Planeptune or Leanbox in Lastation until a NG+ unlocks the quests.

>>8813207

What is the point of no return (feel free to spoiler tag it if you have to)? I have done a few of them but not all I think and I still haven't finished Chapter 2/

>>8813336
All the guild quests are repeatable, but depending on your desired ending, you may want to grind shares up in Chapter 5. Chapter 2 is the longest section of the game, everything after that is just a couple of a boss fights a chapter. Goddesses need 50% of their city's shares in their capital in order to join.

Just make sure that before you turn in quests that have a Lastation Sponsor, you only turn in either -Arfoire or -Lowee. This is only relevant in the first playthrough. Once you get an ending, you can go onto NG+ which will have everything but story related items or skills cross over. If you don't have the Lily Ranks for a specific ending, it is easier to do an entire playthrough and skip the cutscenes than it is to grind up the ranks through combat. Spam the chirpers whenever possible, although some unlock whenever you do a story related event.

>>8813418

So are you saying, there is no way to push shares around so that Lastation gets some?

Can't I just push shares from Planeptune to Lowee and then from Lowee to Lastation? Or something like that? There doesn't need to be a direct way. It's enough if there is one quest available, which deduces shares from a land, which can also get shares from other lands.

Note, that I only know Neptunia 1. But even there I already took not direct share-pushing instead of direct ones. Not sure if every land had the right quests or not, but each one had easier quests then others and sometimes it was simply better to do things differently.
I think I remember it was particularly hard to get shares from Lowee (or was that leanbox..) to Lastation, so I made a detour over Planeptune. I basically always had all shares on Planeptune and Lastation because those were the goddesses I was using.

This is a bit of a long shot, but I'll ask anyway. Did anyone here by chance play Mana Khemia on the PSCX2 emulator and have a save file around chapter 10? I was playing it slowly for the past couple of months, and had my HDD fail this past Saturday. Like a dummy, I didn't have a back up. If anyone has a save file like this and would be willing to upload it, I would really appreciate it.

>>8813203

>>8814292
No, there is just a chance you might get locked out of the 50% shares needed to recruit Noire your first time around if you put Planeptune and Leanbox into the Lastation capital because there is no way to regain those shares until you unlock the NG+ quests.

>>8814462

Thanks man, now I only need other chance to be a jerk.

>>8814956

And that's what I don't understand. Why only Planeptune and Leanbox?
I'd understand it, if you couldn't get any shares out of Lastation anymore. (or do you mean that?)
Because, even if I can't get the shares back from Planeptune and Leanbox, Lowee is fair game, right? So I can get all those Planeptune shares to Lastation, then to Lowee and from there to Leanbox and/or Planeptune.
Or is Lowee completely locked out as well?

This whole thing sounds very very strange to me.

>>8815049
Share quests go by their sponsor. If the sponsor is lastation, all share change rewards will go to their capital. In the first game, there are no quests that change the shares in the Lastation capital from Planeptune or Leanbox into Lastation so you have to rely on Arfoire and Lowee drains into Lastation.

Once you beat the game and do another playthrough on the same file, you will unlock 2 new dungeons and a series of quests that add in Planeptune and Leanbox drains in Lastation.

>>8815072

Ok, and there are no Lowee Quests (meaning, sponsored by someone from Lowee) which take Planeptune and/or Leanbox shares? Afterwards Lastation could draw shares from Lowee.

If that doesn't work, it would mean you could also lock yourself out of Blanc. If you can't get shares from Planeptune or Leanbox to Lastation AND Lowee, with Lowee only being able to get shares from Lastation, it would mean: Locking youself out of Noire implies no Blanc. Or are those "-lowee +lastation" quests limited?

>>8815097
The way the shares work is that the Sponsor city is the only city that has the changes. For example, when you do a quest in Lastation that subtracts Lowee but adds Lastation, with a Lastation Sponsor, the share change only happens in the city that the sponsor is in.

For example, if you are hired by Lastation to kill 10 rats, and are awarded +10 Lastation -10 Lowee, and complete it, it doesn't matter where you turn it in at because those changes will only happen in the Sponsor city (Lastation)

>>8815157
Whoops, there should only be one example.

Whoever sponsors the quest, the shares changes happen to. Just because Lowee disappears from Lastation, that doesn't mean that the shares in the Lowee capital deplete at all. What happens to the Sponsor, stays in the sponsor.

>>8815164

Ah, so basically, every land has now its own shares, unlike the old system, where the whole world had one.

That means it doesn't matter at all what I do "in" the other lands, because only lastation quests count. And those might also put points into Planeptune/Leanbox, which you couldn't get back. I think I get it.. and don't like it a lot, but oh well.

>>8815168
There are both City and World Shares. World shares display what faction has what percent of the over all shares. City shares are directly influenced by quests, World is influenced by the all of the cities, not just the capitals.

The only ending that requires world shares to be a certain percentage is the ruler ending.

A lot of people thought that where you turned it was where the changes took place. Myself included.

This lockout isn't that bad, your first ending will most likely be Planeptune Forever if you aren't gunning for a specific ending.

>>8815200

Given that I wait for all DLC and the skillpack, I'm most likely only playing it once. In other words: True end. And of course I'd like to have all characters.. and especially Noire.

>>8815231
Get Lastation's, Lowee's, Leanbox's, And Planeptune's GLOBAL shares to at least 15%

Everyone at lily rank 4 or 5.

Recruit all of the goddesses.

Lastation, Leanbox, Lowee, And Planeptune's shares at 80% in the cities (Y'know, when you hover over the city with 8-bit Nepgear.)

Arfoire's GLOBAL shares at less than 40%

Also note that there is one DLC event that happens during the true end. From what I understand, it is either the maid or cosplay one. NISA screwed up the descriptions.

>>8815286

So that chart isn't accurate? Good to know the other conditions then. Sounds like a lot of work.. and I'm really not someone who likes to go through a whole game again, just for an ending or something.
Saving at certain points is fine, but otherwise I'd rather start a whole new game, with characters on lvl1.. although I guess that wouldn't give me the bonus stuff either. New Game+ with "level keeping" is kind of useless if you want to play the game again, and not just rush through to get some scenes you couldn't get in your first playthrough.

Alright that clears things up a bit. For reference the last thing I think I did was Delivered the treasure gem and hammite to Lastation and I am still on chapter 2.

I have done pretty much all but a few ones that I still have active but have yet complete.

This is pretty cute.

>>8815322
The chart is accurate in some cases, such as the ruler and city ends. For the Maker end, you just need to have the Maker Characters at Lily Rank 5 to unlock it without fulfilling the needs of other endings.

Ruler end is the worse grind out of all the endings. I would have gotten the true ending my first time if I didn't have a few characters at Lily Rank 3.

I'm saving my 9th playthrough of the game when all of the DLC events are released.

>>8816056

Someone sure is a fan. Do you actually HAVE to keep all character-levels and stuff on new game+? If it actually offers some bonus-content, it might be worth checking out at some point, but I really don't want to need to get through all kinds of storydungeons with a way overleveled party. I'd rather take a nice break and then start on lvl1 again. (Although I guess, certain boni are nice to still have. For example those "Lily Ranks", as far as I understood it.)

>>8816088
You could just make a new file. Whenever you complete the game you can either go on and complete everything, or make a new file and go through it all again as a regular NG. I don't believe that there is an option for what gets carried over and what doesn't. I wish for a Tales like system in that regard where you get points throughout the game, then can purchase perks for a NG+ or a new playthrough.

I believe the only bonus content for NG+ that isn't offered without game completions for the file includes two dungeons and a work around with the Lastation lock out.

As for being a fan, I really enjoy the Neptunia series and eagerly await the rest of the "Year of Neptunia"

http://www.compileheart.com/game_over/ is the teaser site for MK3, by the way. That April 2nd announcement was apart of the teaser.

So right now Lastation has about a 17% world share. Am I doing this correctly? Planeptune has about 15% so roughly the same. I am still trying to figure out the whole Lily Rank thing. I managed to increase a relationship or two at the start of the game using the Chirper thing but every time I check it nothing happens anymore.

>>8816142

I hope the next one is for the Vita. I think it would make a strong fit for it.

>>8816142

I'd guess it's some high level stuff in ng+, eh? (Nothing else would make sense..)
I still remember Atelier Iris 2 being awesome in that regard. It offers some additional arena challenges, which are simply awesome. The only battles which ever make you use items, which have a nice difficulty.. and where you can actually see your characters dieing. (Especially because enemies can deal more than 1000damage.. max hp was 999) I really don't know why Gust locked first timers out of it. I'm glad I liked it enough to replay it. It's still the only Gust game I replayed.. which doesn't mean too much, because I'm not a huge replayer, not any more at least. (I do have my 3runs and thus around 270hours in star ocean 3..)


Also I'm actually one of those few people who thoroughly enjoyed Neptunia 1. Even the gameplay was fine. Nice difficulty, fast ending random encounter, which also only appeared rarely. And of course a very very good cast, easily the best I've ever seen in an rpg. (And I know a shitload)
So looking forward to mk2, whenever everything got released. Although I still doubt it can get close to Neptunia1 with character interaction. (Especially because NISA half-dubbed... something really unnecessary)

>>8816176
You sometimes have to just spam click a character until new dialogue comes up. You won't have much at first, unless you are doing the ruler end, a good time to spam chirpers is the moment you move onto Chapter 6 or the very end of Chapter 5.

Chirpers unlock through progression, so if you don't have any after a few minutes of mashing, you should be fine. Just check every once an a while for new ones.

>>8816186
Vita seems like a good choice for a game. I wonder if the Noire game will be multiplat in regards to Vita/PS3.

>>8816199
The dungeons that come out after completing the game are actually pretty hard if you go at it with low level characters (I had problems at level 30 when I first attempted it, it was slightly difficult at 50.) I also couldn't pull the dungeons off with just Nepgear, Iffy, Compa and Nisa.

I didn't like the healing aspect in MK1 and the animations were a little too long, but since I was able to skip them, I did when there was a guard break up. Neptunia 1 had great writing though. I switched to the Japanese voices in both games because I thought they fit the characters better. Also they match up with the lips when the characters talk.

>>8816258

Neptunia1 had also the english voices lip-synced. I'm pretty sure at least. Also, yeah, animation skip was something I ALWAYS used. Guess you could say, that was bad gamedesign, but oh well.
Healing was mostly not needed, so I didn't care. And in those 1on1 battles it was actually kind of nice. Anticipate the next turn of the enemy, what damage will it do, how do I adjust my healing-skills to survive and not get into a danger-zone (i.e. barely over 50% health).. and so on. Landing under 30% hp, but not having the <30% healing spell active was pretty much your defeat. Just like not landing under 30% and having that healing spell active as well. So, constant changing.


And as for the vita thing. I'd be disappointed. Don't want to buy a Vita. Also, Noire is the embodiment of the ps3, at least for me.

>>8816258

Alright. I was under the impression that the Lily Rank thing corresponded with just progress in the game. I thought the whole world share thing was just for show until you brought it up.

>>8816293
I liked some combat of one, and most combat of 2. I wish there was a way to incorporate HDD into a combo in MK2.

I personally don't have a Vita, nor the cash for one. I'd much prefer a PS3 game again, although I will not deny that the game shown during the credits wouldn't be out of place on the Vita.

>>8816316
Nope. Best way to go about endings is to pick which one you want when you are very early on in the game, and just focus on those requirements. Lily Ranks aren't a huge problem, you should get around 2-3 ranks based off of chirpers per character.

Also, as a recommendation on endings, don't get the Ruler Ending last.

My first playthrough of Mk2.
You don't even get anything special for doing this ;_;

>>8817437
At least you managed to stamp out Arfoire completely.

>>8816353

I am guess I am confused about how the shares factor into recruitment and other things. I guess I should have paid more attention when I first started and didn't think twice about things affecting getting new members.

>>8816353

I wasn't really paying attention when I first started. I knew that the outcome of the endings could be affected but that was it. Hopefully it won't be too late to change things around since I am on Chapter 2 (just got the information on where to find the mascot)[/spoiler.

As for the combat in the original, to my better understanding it suffered from a really high encounter rate and a lot of grinding. So far though as I have said before I just love the way the combat is structured and it's fun.

I wasn't really paying attention when I first started. I knew that the outcome of the endings could be affected but that was it. Hopefully it won't be too late to change things around since I am on Chapter 2 (just got the information on where to find the mascot)

As for the combat in the original, to my better understanding it suffered from a really high encounter rate and a lot of grinding. So far though as I have said before I just love the way the combat is structured and it's fun.

>>8818780
You just need 50% of the nation shares in their capital to recruit their original goddess. 50% Leanbox shares in Leanbox will unlock Vert through an event.

The candidates are unlocked through story elements.

Is it easy to get the true end on the first play through, or is getting the lily ranks up too much of a grind? I am towards the end of chapter 5, and haven't turned in any quests because I'm still not sure which ending I want to try for.

>>8820278
People have gotten it their first playthrough. No idea on the amount of grind needed until you do all of the chirpers to see who still needs to get their affection up.

>>8820278

It's possible but it'd be faster to do another route then NG+ just to use the chirper events again.

>>8820278
Got the True end and got all Characters to 99 in one play through. Used that free DLC lvl to grind and got this games platinum last month.
Also Nepgear in the Ruler ending reminded me of someone pic related. What a bitch good thing it wasn't canon.

>>8820553

>What a bitch

Eeeh, I felt sorry for her. She suggested a good plan and the attitude of everyone else did a complete 180 to the point where they wanted to kill each other. She never wanted it to come to that but at that point most of the CPUs had it in their head that the only way out was to accept death or kill off Nepgear/Neptune. Underling honestly deserved it though.

>>8822936
They didn't even humor her, or even give it a shot. It went from "Nepgear, you decide" to "You even take one share we'll consider it a declaration of war".

She had to die sometime. Underling was pretty much asking to die when she attacked Vert

Newfag here, can someone tell me why Neptunia is in the Gust thread? Is it just because Gust has a character in there?

>>8823838
Gust Co. helped with the series.

>>8823854

I see... does anyone know exactly what they helped out with?

>>8823891
They are listed as both publisher and developer. I'm not sure on this, but I think they were in charge of the Euro release as well.

>>8823891
Guess I answered my own question by checking out the credits... they had 2-3 people on Production Support. Doesn't sound like something I'd consider Gust-worthy but whatever, I suppose. Thanks for the response.

>>8823908
Where exactly? I'm seeing Compile Heart as the publisher for Japan, and Tecmo Koei for Europe.

>>8823940
After roaming around the internet for a bit, I see that my reading comprehension was utter shit when it came to reading the devs. According to wikipedia, Compile Heart/Idea Factory were the true devs/publishers for Japan, while NISA is being credited for the non Japan releases. Gust Co., 5pb, and Comcept are credited for minor assistance.

My mistake, I could have sworn reading somewhere that Gust helped with the Euro release, but I cannot for the life of me find where I read that.

>>8823995

How about Gust = Tecmo Koei ?
Also p15... that's too low.

>>8825308

Oh and by that I meant Tecmo basically owns Gust, so maybe you confused something there. (So, in a way, it's not Tecmo = Gust.. given that in Tecmo, there's more than just Gust)

>>8825308
>>8825326
Ah, I did not know that.

>>8826544

Well it hasn't been that long since Tecmo bought Gust. Which is why we still don't know if NISA will still release future Gust games, or Tecmo will do that, or nobody will.. or whatever.

>>>/vg/

>>8826606
Does Tecmo do NA releases? I have only seen the name once or twice outside of this thread, and those were on Gamestop websites.

>>8826642

Yes, for example Warriors Orochi 3 or Ninja Gaiden 3 to name some newer games.

>>8826758
Well then, guess we will have to wait and see what their publishing plans are then. Although, as long as I get the games, I don't really care who is on the label.

>>8826789

Provided they'd do a similar good job at them. And some Gust games have a whole lot of text. NISA screwed up a few times, but by now they more or less know how to handle things. (AT3 went a lot smoother than AT2)
Although it's sad how much NISA half-dubs, I'm pretty sure Tecmo-Koei would still do a worse dubbing job.

And then there's translation. NISA does by now quite a good job with their localization efforts. Their biggest problems are by now only somewhat minor stuff, like Atelier Rorona having inconsistent editing. You easily see that after exactly half the game, Rorona would stop calling Esty by her first name and use her last name in the Sub. Aside of that being kind of wrong, "translating" esty-san as mrs. last name, it's a simple editing error I'd assume. Two editors, and that part became inconsistent and sort of wrong.

Now that we have an active mod, can you please delete this thread (and possibly ban the OP)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ar_tonelico
This is a JRPG with a wide Western release. It is not a doujin game and it definitely belongs in /vg/ (several staff members have already said so). However a small group of people keeps making these threads over and over.

There was already enough controversy when there was just /v/, but now that /vg/ exists it has gotten to be a farce.

>>8827641

Shut up nerd

>Playing AT1
>Misha's route
>Scene in the park where she says she doesn't want to find the song
>Fade to black
>Text box saying "...Thanks"
>Text box says it's misha saying it
>Audio is Lyner saying it
...what?

>>8828733
Typical /v/irgin who regularly posts in these threads when he's not shitposting.

Thanks Gustfriends for making /jp/ such a cool place for kidz to hang out! :-)

>>8828733
Yeah. NISA doesn't tend to fix things like that for some reason. The final parts of Tyria's route in AT3 had the JP dub sync off by one or two lines resulting in everything becoming like what you just described.

>>8825308
Yeah, but the acquisition didn't even happen until waaaay after Neptunia 1/2 were out.

>>8829230
God, don't remind me. That bug soured the experience for me to the point that I've never replayed that part after getting her ending. It would've been such a simple thing to fix, too, but nope.

>>8826859
New Neptunia is confirmed as NeptuniaV, which is set in the 80s.

News and picture is courtesy of /vg/

>>8830520
Yeah, saw the news. Fuck yes.

>>8830676
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/09/next-neptunia-game-set-in-the-80s-coming-to-japan-this-summer/

Guess Japan is getting it this summer. Wonder how long until we get it.

>>8830685
There are too many games I need to import coming up. This is rough.

So no Noire game? Hm, at least ps3. That said, let's see where that goes. I'd say 80s are worse than 90s, but oh well. 90s could've featured Noire getting born as Blanc's little sister, but then Blanc throws her out, and Noire proceeds to found Lastation. Would be perfect for the Noire game.
Historically Nintendo ordered a CD-drive from Sony for one of their consoles. (I think an extension for the Snes, though I don't remember that too well) But when Sony was ready to deliver it, Nintendo said "scratch that, we don't want it". Then Sony thought "well fuck you! We just make our own video-gaming system" and born was the Playstation.

It's funny that Nintendo practically made one of their biggest competitors themselves. And, again, it would be perfect for a Noire game story. Although.. I'm not sure how happy Nintendo and Sony would be about that.

>>8831337

And if you really wanted you could even extend on that story and make Noire semi-evil. The playstation got only popular, because you could pirate games so easily.
Or, of course, make her all helpless and try to go against that.

There are a whole damn lot of possibilities in the 90ies. And of course, "Neptune" would have nice possibilities as well. She'd die. Poor Noire. Maybe Neptune could help her found Lastation, but then gets sick and the tragedy unfolds.

Lot's of drama in the 90s.

>>8831337

And if you really wanted you could even extend on that story and make Noire semi-evil. The playstation got only popular, because you could pirate games so easily.
Or, of course, make her all helpless and try to go against that.

There are a whole damn lot of possibilities in the 90s. And of course, "Neptune" would have nice possibilities as well. She'd die. Poor Noire. Maybe Neptune could help her found Lastation, but then gets sick and the tragedy unfolds.

Lots of drama in the 90s.

>>8831337
>>8831343
It could have Noire as the main heroine. If it is based off the 80s then she doesn't have a console, so she can't be a CPU.

>>8831343
>The playstation got only popular, because you could pirate games so easily.

The Playstation got popular because it was piss easy to program for and ZOMG 3D.

The Saturn was a pain in the ass because it was build from the ground up for 2D and got a 3D co processor tacked on at the last minute. Not to mention sales were slow due to the lost consumer trust from the MegaCD and the 32x fiasco.
They get all my respect if they actually made a Megadrive-tan with 2 huge tumors in the game...

And while the n64 did not bomb completely the insanely expensive cartridges and the retarded controller held it back.
Over here a n64 game costed ƒ180~200 bucks compared to the ƒ100~120 for a PSX/Saturn game.
(The euro did not exist back then. im feel old... ;_;)


The 80 is a strange choice though. The 90 were a bit more vibrant IMO with the mario vs sonic war in full swing.
I hope the character designs from the scans are not final. They look way too modern. IIRC 80 were all about "futuristic" geometric designs like the huge Master System. Oh and lots of wood grain of course...

http://www.mediafire.com/?edgilnw2vxnaja5
isshouni pittanko, pururun pittanko, zutto pururun pittanko nyamo~

>>8831545

Pause button is on the console and not the controller? Gaming in the 90's must have sucked dick.

>>8831727
oops, wrong file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?zvikxv42xk1uwv9

>>8831492
Clearly she's a Walkman.

>>8833055
Then she should look like a 80's version of Miku.

Oh god DAMNIT Ar tonelico, I'm fucking sick to DEATH of the Tenga base in FireflyAlley, all this backtracking is making me MAD. I swear, if it kicks me out and tells me to come back later AGAIN now that Misha's out of my party, I think I may break my controller.

>>8833084
You are gonna love AT3 if that makes you mad already.

Imagine a even bigger dungeon with 4 floors, build like a maze and no map. they send you to that place about 6 times.
oh and the no encounter item has been nerved into uselessness.

the clustania district is the sole reason i never bothered going for the other endings.

>>8833103
Oh I've already beat 3 (and 2), and yeah, nothing will top Clustania District for frustration, but at least it didn't make you go to the deepest point, kick you back out to the entrance, then immediately make you go back to the exact same place in the dungeon, but this time without a reyvateil

>>8833084
Good thing the BGM in Tenpa is awesome.

>>8833084
We need a Bourd Rade trollface up in here stat.

Also,
>Tenga base
made me grin far too much

>>8833104
>but this time without a reyvateil

Why would you ever be without a Reyvateil? She should always be by your side. You promised Misha you'd never leave her behind, right?

Right?

>>8833135
...I think I need to take a break from the series. I'm in a bit too deep. That should not have made me feel as guilty as it did.

>>8833104
At least you can just pop a no encounter item and book it in AT1.

iirc the only time you have to go back is for an optional quest that allows you to switch between adult misha and annoying brat misha.

>>8833154
Nope, he's still going to have to go back again after getting the Power Cylinder from the Hexagonal Plate

>>8833154
Tthe fact you had to do it ten times was incredibly annoying.

Oh gods, now that Misha's singing again, I'm stuck with Aurica who's like 10 levels lower than the rest of the party... Is there any quick way to boost her up?

>>8833084
God, that pissed me off to no end too.

>>8833467
That's the one thing I like about AT2; all your reyvateils are the same level, no matter what. Not that it matters as Jacqli is just flat out more powerful than Cloche or Luca.

And in AT3 it just didn't matter what level they were because you could just hit max purge and then run away from enemies until the burst was high enough to one-shot anything

>>8833055
But Walkman weren't gaming consoles.

>>8834128
Sure they were, you played music in them.

>>8834301
Dohohoho Maybe Noire will be a traveling bard this time around while Lowee gets invaded by Leanbox.

>>8830685
>>you can now see Neptune's navel

My p0n0s can't handle all these costume upgrades dude.

>>8834440
Not to mention her increased breast size as games go on. Although, if the game is set in the past, wouldn't that mean that Neptune's bosom shrank at some point?

I'm disappointed, GUST thread. Buncha talk about something they're barely involved in (Neptunia), and yet nothing about the new Ayesha characters?

>>8834128
in the 80s same games came on cassette so a potential portable gaming system could in fact be a modded walkman.

This game can so much cool stuff with "what if" ideas like the Fallout games did. Sadly this is idea factory we are talking about.... ;_;

bumpu~

>>8835359
umm... gio with glasses?

>>8835357

Gradient hair. Delicious.

>>8835357

Mmm, dat gradient. Hidari's character models so far are really nice.

>>8834461
>increased breast size
I hate it already.

>>8840388
It's mostly visual. Purple Heart has always been an E size according to the measurement chart

>>8840868
>E size
Too big ;_;

>>8840882
I'd like Purple Heart even if she was a loli, or had Vert-level chest endowments

>>8840978

Now that picture is just weird. At least the official artworks all looked fine, as far as me looking over them for a second goes. I probably wouldn't even realize that the breast got bigger. Well, except Nisa or Blanc had suddenly boobs of course.

Although I still dislike the whole "breast pimping". The "bigger breasts = sexier" part of society isn't exactly good. It doesn't matter in 2d too much, but.. it still reflects how things are nicely.

>>8841035
Neptunia V has great artwork so far

>>8841122
But does it have great gameplay?

>>8841170
No.

>>8834312
God those tits. Thats why verts my favorite shes got them tits in both forms.

>>8832642
Oh wow, awesome.

New Atelier Ayesha scan.
http://i.imgur.com/1U4tp.jpg

>>8842130
>miners

if Tecmo won't let Nisa publish ayesha but do it themselves, will it include jap dub? I hate that about the tales games...

>>8843074
I swear to god I'll sue their asses if they don't include the undub.

>>8844809
They'll sell the undub as DLC.

Atleast NIS got to finish the Arland trilogy.

How is Koei at localizing games besides Dynasty warriors/Spin-offs or is it more likely that there will never be another GUST game in English.

>>8842932
The pick axe is a violent and gory as hell weapon, why would a cute girl be carrying one?

>>8843074
Tales is Namco-Bandai and Tales games have excellent english dubs. dont be a weeaboo.

>>8844858

Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 had Japanese tracks and so did the DOA games for as long as i remember. Of course this was before that magnificent bastard itagaki left them.
But i dont see why they would not include them on other gamers.

>>8845312
>excellent english dubs
You might want to see a doctor.

>>8845315
>>>/gaia/

>>8845325
>Liking dubs
Get out. Games, movies, anything voiced, should always be in their original language. Dubs are beyond retarded.
>Implying someone from gaia wouldn't love dubs
Fucking stupid.

>>8845449
Whatever you say weeaboo.

Hayao Miyazaki must be retarded as well for thinking people should watch his work in their own language because its the most natural experience.

>>8845869
>Hayao Miyazaki
Seriously now? how low level can you be? Get the fuck out of /jp/.

>>8845928
how about you go back to your weeaboo friends at the nisa forums instead kiddo.

Alright, let's try and ignore the dub trolls for once.

ooh now I remember why I opposed the AT threads before aoc forced them on our board

>>8845928
>>8845449
Calm down, you will stop caring about "powerlevels" and game settings when you get older. Chill.

the simpsons just aren't the same without Dan Castellaneta in the dubs. doesn't help that every other dub misses some of homer's signature catchphrases like d'oh.

>>8843074

Is there anything to suggest that NISA wont be publishing it for NA?

/a/mericunts get out. Take your exceptionalism and hardon for your terrible strand of english with you.

>>8849715
Tecmo Koei has their own companies in the west,
so why would they want to lose money by giving it to NISA when they could just do it themselves.

>>8849742
Risk aversion and pareto efficient distribution of resources. I'm sure they'd rather utilize their western distribution and publishing resources marketing games that you could consider low hanging fruit. Can't be bothered giving examples, but its fairly basic micro economics.

>>8849742

I know they do but that means little. They've been publishing the games in Europe for a while now but that hasn't stopped NISA from working on the NA side of things. I doubt very much that'll change.

Tecmo-Koei publish their own games in the west, don't they?

I think the most desirable scenario would be if NISA handled localization and TK publishes. You'd still get that close connection NISA tends to have with their fanbase, and maybe a slightly larger budget that can go towards more bugtesting and less things breaking.