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about DoD

>shamelessly borrowing from Pooshlmer

Base game:

http://www.mediafire.com/?twt3tdv6ddxfz7m
http://www.mediafire.com/?rqmcws0x7igiyad
http://www.mediafire.com/?rk3sbf90o7akgx9
http://www.mediafire.com/?szdrrv08oop824c

1.01: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_101.exe
1.02: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_102.exe
1.03: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_103.exe
1.04: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_104.exe
1.05: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_105.exe
1.06: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_106.exe
1.07: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_107.exe
1.08: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_108.exe
1.09: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_109.exe
1.10: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_110.exe
1.11: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_111.exe
1.11x: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_111x.exe (For patching from 1.00)

Manual: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/manual_maroku.lzh
Partially Translated Manual: http://www.mediafire.com/?2xr1cpwut878ucv (Thanks to Catharsis)

Japanese wiki: http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku
Google translated link: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku

Youmu can 1 shot anything. Give her the デュランダール and Kanako's メテオリックオンバシラ, and wiping out large mobs of enemies couldn't get easier. To bad her MP is so limited.

oh yeah almost forgot
>>8704496
is the last thread

who was talking shit 'bout my Kusanagi again?

Desperately need tips for those fucking birds in Yuuka's garden. They just keep spamming petra breath until my entire party is petrified. If I get the first turn I can use Sanae's RES up, then I get a slightly better chances, but they use the same breath attack every turn, so it's still only a matter of time until it goes through on everyone. I can use Aya's breath reflect to keep her alive, but that doesn't really do any good because I'm just forced to re cast it every turn while everyone else is petrified.

And then after dying for the 5th time in a row to the same set of enemies, the game has the balls to give me the tip, "When strong enemies appear, it would be best to escape." No shit, too bad it doesn't work when half your party is petrified on turn 0.

Also, how do Mokou's spells that have the grants reraise effect work, do they only just revive you at full health if you die the turn they're used?

>>8737254
do you have the Formation "Sonic Stream"? (use Aya scan on a couple enemies and go to your shrine circle). It grants you insane initiative in exchange for a big def penalty.

then put at least Marisa and Patchouli in that Formation and fry those fuckers before you're all stone.

By the way, your Satori needs to be 30 to learn that awesome Petro Breath. 1% chance is really fucking low, but they use it all the time anyway so...

I feel bad about never finishing this. I think the last boss I beat was reimu's turtle. the enemies were too frustrating and I felt like I couldn't advance without grinding a ton.

what is the new game like? I think I remember being disappointed about main characters not having their own abilities anymore. can marisa really not shoot lasers or anything?

>>8737274
Both games are grindfests. Although if you think stuff through, you can beat DoD without grinding much. And in DoD, all magic is done through Shikigami or Last Words, and some weapons do have magical attributes.

>people think GoS requires grinding and not correct strategy

If you run dungeons with the right setup, even when underlevelled you'll be okay. Grinding 5 levels won't make a difference when you're using the wrong party, skills, equips and growth tree.

Sanae carried my through the whole game with her buffs and healing.

the only point in maingame GoS where you might consider grinding is before the final boss. And that doesn't take THAT terribly long, it's not worse than, say, leveling up a bit in your favorite MMO.

>>8737367
I wanted the more powerful spells though and getting them meant grinding 10+ levels. I had been using the same ones for a long time and it was getting boring.

GoS requires almost no grinding.

I got to the final stage/Gorgon Barrier in the 49-53 range from what I remember. And beat Lithos close to that range as well. I literally used strategy to blast past through every boss fight and every dungeon was at least 50% juking mobs while collecting treasure chests.

But then I grinded like a fucker for the final boss which on second thought might've not been necessary since I beat her on my first serious try of a particular strategy. Actually might've been necessary due to how much power I needed to optimize Mokou's and Youmu's growth trees.

Just when I wanted to talk about this.
I FINALLY got out of Yuuka's garden. Those fucking birds with Petra Breath were annoying. And I had to walk around for what I think were hours until I finally realized where the path to Yuuka was.
Then I had problems with Medicine (no weakness) until I realized I could pulverize her with Youmu.

One thing is bothering me. Either I'm using a patched executable, or I'm getting too lucky. How could I check if I'm using the drop rate patch?

>>8737562
Are you being lucky with material drops or lucky with equipment drops?

Material drops are the only thing that's modified in the drop patch. Equipment drops all have a decent 5/10% rate from what I know.

If you're being lucky with equipment then that's not an indicator of using the patch.

>>8737613
Materials. I get an item every 5 to 10 fights, if not less.

What's your favorite BGM? Do you prefer one of the games in this aspect?
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB128BAC9F9FFEF67&feature=mh_lolz
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB128BAC9F9FFEF67&feature=mh_lolz

>>8737642
>http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB128BAC9F9FFEF67&feature=mh_lolz
posted twice, what a blooper.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAFAE2A1232D1EF2A&feature=mh_lolz

>>8737642
>>8737647
I haven't played DoD, but a lot of GoS's music is very, very good. I love the first boss theme, and the themes for Hakugyokurou are Inner Eientei are excellent.

>>8737660
it is. I sure would want a Music Room option or something like that...

>>8737642
I prefer DoD's music, but GoS's was pretty nice too.

>>8737666
Soundtracks to both games have been uploaded.

Im having trouble patching from 2.06 to 2.07. I direct the patcher to the folder my game is in, and I keep getting md5 checksum errors. Any ideas? Pic related.

>>8737690
Remove the English patch or drop rate patch first by using the backup files if you have any. Otherwise, you're going to need to reinstall the game and re-update.

>>8737562
Where exactly is the path to Yuuka? I pulled the lever to turn off the white steam/smoke, and have been walking in circles since.

Also, what do I get for beating Yukkuris? Youmu's yukkuri attack just misses every time.

>>8737769
You need to use the orange smoke from the first room to get to those orange flowers in the thin passages. Search every nook and cranny of the areas north of the white smoke.

You get a ton of experience from Yukkuris. Mash attack at them and hope for the best.

>>8737769
As >>8737779 said, you should use the orange smoke from the first room and go north through where the steam was. You should be able to solve this.

What I do NOT get is how the fuck was I supposed to know how to get out of Eientei's endless corridor.

>>8737098
I really don't like Youmu in DoD for some reason, she just feels like an inferior Remilia with more HP and even less SP for me. Maybe I should try giving the game another playthrough and using her this time.
>>8737198
>Reisen
Well.
>>8737254
Max Sanae's buff tree, that pretty much guarantees your wind spells are going to go first and reduces their cost so you can use them more often.
>>8737274
DoD is considerably less grindy than GoS, in fact just killing every enemy in a region will give you enough levels to always get a bit less from encounters because you're a bit overleveled. And then you get to the final dungeon and yeah, I guess you will need to grind a bit... and then the final boss and oh boy I hope you enjoy killing Yukkuri Kings.
At least you won't ever need to grind for items in this game - in fact, you can pretty much craft every weapon you find a recipe for and never run out of materials, at least until you get to the Orichalcum/Adamantite stuff, because there are only five of each in the game and you can't find more of them.

So I just got to Eientei, where the game expects me to split into two parties, and I've only been keeping 5 characters leveled so far.

Welp, time to uninstall. Fun while it lasted, but I'm not putting up with bullshit of this caliber.

Reisen is destroying me. Any tips? Her party attacks just... kill me.

>>8737826
You need to always use the adjacent doors, or something like that... even though I beat that dungeon again less than two weeks ago, I seriously can't remember.
>>8738013
We told you, bro.
It's not like it's hard to keep everyone almost evenly leveled, too - and even if you really want to only use the same party for every dungeon, there's the commander slot so you can keep your level 1 characters safe.
I actually like how this is a RPG where you're required to use your entire party instead of just focusing on a few characters you like.
>>8738024
Most of her attacks target a column, so try putting your tank in a formation like Hinotori something or Poison Shield. Also, get Sakuya's personal weapon that has slayer effect on beasts and enjoy your bunny butter.
By the way, did you have no trouble with Tewi at all? I find it weird how both her and Komachi gave me a lot of headaches until I started betting on evasion and accuracy reduction.

So I played this for quite a while when it first came out and enjoyed it immensely until I got to this part.
How the fuck am I supposed to beat mindflayers, they either one shot a character or stun / charm my entire party

>>8738013

Advance with one party in one side, but with one or two underleveled characters either on the field or in the commander spot.

>>8738066
kill them faster than they can stun you

>>8738032
The exit of the corridor is actually pretty obscure. It's down through the door to the right, then down and down again. But there is no tip, you have to figure ir out through trial an error. It's three times through rooms with four doors, so that's 64 possibilities.
And thanks, I hadn't seen that Reisen's attack was one-column.
With Tewi, I just debuffed her with Byakuren's ACC down, and then Youmu took care of the rest. Maybe I was lucky, but with the debuff she didn't hit in three or more turns.

>>8738066
Sanae has a (somewhat expensive) RES spell, so use that whenever there are squids on screen. If you have 25 power points you can get it down to 6 or so MP, though, so abuse that if you can.
Also, they're pretty weak to instant death and stab attacks, so get a few spears, guns, or Sakuyas to help you. An Aya is nice too.
>>8738073
That's a nice way to do it as well, but keep in mind that both sides of that dungeon have completely different enemies, focused on either magic or physical attacks.

>>8738066
Equip death/paralysis resistant gear to a strong physical character like Sakuya and let her rip. Sanae can boost your RES, but it's pricy mana-wise.
Mind Flayers are weak to stab, for the record.

One turn kill them. Use Aya's Move First spellcard if your characters are too slow.

I sure do love walkthroughs outright lying and/or not telling you stuff. Fucking Tewi.

>>8738703
Yeah, the walkthrough on the wiki is a load of crap but to be honest you shouldn't use using a walkthrough for a game like this where the fun is in overcoming the challenge.

>>8737686
Can you provide download link for DoD's OST please, can't find it.
;_;

>>8738799
I'm sorry, I lied. DoD's OST hasn't been uploaded. I posted that without checking; turns out I mixed up DoD's OST with an OST for a different doujin Touhou game also released at C81. My apologies.

>>8738799
http://www.mediafire.com/?9ob99kocc3mc252

>>8738703
>>8738722
I used the walkthrough and it helped me quite a bit, though it is spotty in some areas. All the bosses seem to be more strategy dependent than power dependent so the walkthrough saves a lot of frustration in trial and error. With it I never had to grind until the final boss where I just didn't have some of the skills it recommended I have. For personal satisfaction I was proud of the fact that I was constantly underleveled throughout the whole game to the point where I was constantly getting bonus experience. It was somewhat enjoyable when I was at the Gorgon Barrier and was getting triple experience despite the fact I kept my party very evenly leveled throughout the game so nobody was lagging in levels.

What's the problem with Tewi by the way? I don't remember having too much trouble during that fight.

The most troubling boss fight in the game for me was Tenshi due to the walkthrough not having any mention of Sakuya's Great Maid at the time I was at that point personally though it seems to have that mentioned now.

Is there a collection of all the weapon sprites somewhere? Some of them have pretty neat looks.

>>8739059
>What's the problem with Tewi by the way?
Ancient Duper. Every now and them, bam everyone dies. Thankfully enough, it has low accuracy, and you can make it never ever hit with an EVA buff and by reducing her accuracy.
As for Tenshi, I had trouble once... because I gave Alice the wrong shield. In fact, getting Sakuya's Great Maid didn't even help that much in that fight.
>>8739125
I thought of making one and posting it on the wiki's weapon page when I got to the end of the post-expansion game, but laziness was stronger than me (and I never really got there). The sprites are probably in a sprite pack somewhere in the world, but I doubt it has the weapons attached to their users.

>>8739140
Actually no.
After checking the walkthrough, I figured that she was a gimmick boss and that low accuracy thing applied to all her attacks, and if I just had Sanae boost my dodge I'd be fine.
Well, I avoided her Ancient Duper just fine, but that didn't stop her from shredding my squishy mage party with her basic attacks, which never missed once.
Oh, and she has an AoE sleep move. Go figure.

>>8739125
I'm lazy, but have that machine gun since it was easier to find than I thought it would be.

Oh, no wonder Tewi lost, Marisa is invisible.

Or...or not?

Damn it, Marisa, stop it!

Posting while waiting for Byakuren to show up.
I'm on stage 4 and I haven't been grinding at all, struggled a bit with Alice but got her eventually. In the fire dungeon, that girl in the bucket (forgot her name) one-hit kills my characters whenever she attacks. Shall I grind more or do I need to mess around with Alice's skills?

>>8739739
Alice is the tank of the game so yeah, she'd probably help quite a bit.

Also you're only now getting Byakuren?

>>8739739
There is no grind in this game.
Try changing your formation.
Mokou formation is a good starting formation.
If you use Alice, just spam Alice shield skill using free formation.

>>8739739
No, that's pretty much all she does - charge up for a turn then nuke someone the next. Just keep attacking her until she dies, and if I'm not mistaken she's weak to Light as well, so try having a safe Reimu spam amulets and needles on her.

>>8739745
>Also you're only now getting Byakuren?
Yeah, I went in without reading anything about the game. Figuring out the battle system and how to heal MP took a while. I'm still not quite sure what causes field effects.

>>8739746
>>8739750
Well okay, back to the drawing board. Seems like I'll have to die to X boss once, then prepare a strategy for them.

>>8739752
field effects are skills which last a couple of turns. For example Sakuya's murder world. It's possible to overwrite a field effect with another one.
One of the boss battles you will face soon practically demands of you to activate a specific field if you don't wish to horribly die.

>>8738013

I've cleared the boss for that place with my alts at lvl 22ish. You can clear the entire dungeon with your main party if you want. Just use the in dungeon heal and go back to the start and then do the other side.

How do you get new formations in this game?

>>8739770
Never had a chance to get my hands on this game, is this Sanae's default portrait?

What is this pokémon x touhou?

>>8739869
would be funny.

>>8739871
>pokemon
have you seriously never played a turn-based JRPG before?

>>8739752
>how to heal MP
Wait, are there ways to get MP back other than the regen X per turn or convert X% physical damage to mana?

I'm completely lost on field effects too. I just want to get Mokou's 80 health regen to work.

Wow, mind flayers are bullshit. Paralyzed 3/5 members in one attack, and the other one Instant Death'd Sanae. This was all before I even attacked.

>>8739974
Use hakurei formation, Put sanae and Marisa behind and hey should attack first for some reason.
Otherwise use tengu formation.
Why do you have Mokou if you are on level 4?

What happened to the bro tying to solo as much of the game as possible with Mokou? Did he give up on Satori?

>>8739992
I went into the bamboo forest and moved in the Konami code.

>>8739962
Did you try those glowing circles on the ground? Those bring your characters back to full MP and bombs when you step in them.

Also land is different from the field. The field is basically a slot for one effect that lasts however long it does. If there is a field effect going on, you can see its effect and duration by canceling out of the first character in the action select queue. There can only ever be one field effect at any moment, if another is cast while one is going on then the previous field effect gets overwritten. Land has nothing to do with field effects. Though there are some field effects that affect land. Land is the general indicator of a particular element's dominance in any given battle. You can see it in the upper right corner of the screen when canceling out of the first action select. There are 3 meters representing the diametrically opposed fire/water, air/earth, and light/dark. If a bunch of fire spells are cast in a single battle, then the meter for fire/water goes up in the fire direction. It would then take a whole lot more water spells to cancel that out and bring it into the water side. There are spells by Patchouli for specifically affecting the land. Also some skills can only be used when the land is in a certain state. Enemy skills mostly so if you ever see insufficient land power when an enemy fails to do something it's because they tried to cast something that requires a certain land percentage. Also regeneration effects are common for enemies with affinities to certain elements if the land gets boosted for that element. So if you want Mokou's regen then you need to use fire spells or use her fire aligned skills when she gets them.

I love the amount of strategy I need in GoS. It's not even luck or brute strength or anything. One tactic can get you brutally slaughtered while another will make you invincible.

Every boss fight I redo growths, equipment and skills to try a more effective strategy that works and that's actually great game design if I had anything to say about it.

On a side note, what's Aya good for? Her skills, stats and growth bonuses look like trash aside from her speed and not-so-helpful support skills, but I'm only done past the eientei faction.

>>8740020
Breath reflection, turn-order manipulation and her dodge+ field spell. You need her later to fight against hydra or dragon enemies. Aside from that she's almost useless imo.

>>8740020
The fastest in gensokyo.
Always the first to start.
Good for hunting yukkuri and breathe reflect.
You can theoretically sub her with Sanae and use her breathe reflect instead of +res buff every turn.

Did anyone ever use Patchouli with a physical build? She has some growth for that, but it just seems like wasted points...

Also all of her weapons only have magic related bonuses.

>>8740049

She gets super strong in the early/mid game if you dump everything into that one skill, I don't know about late game.

Fuck yeah, no more after boss crashes, and when entering new areas. Time to play.

Whats up with equipping items? Like, when I pick up things weapons and charms or whatever they wont even show up in any characters options until much later. Is it stat gains? How can I tell what it will let me put on?

>>8740136
Please read the manual

how do i get the recipe for "Sun curtain IV"?

All right, now I've achieved Satori. Levelling all these characters and juggling their equipment is a bit silly.

You know what? Fuck this, I'm not wasting my precious(?) time hunting for 0.1% item drops from a 10% appearance rate monster. I'll just use the Silver Trays I got from chests.

Oooh, THAT'S why you'd want the tier three fist for Mokou. The faux Kaguyas in Inner Eientei are immune to confusion.

Oh, no, wait. I'm an idiot.

GoS doesn't even start for me, anyone know why?

What's the relationship between weapon procs and slayer effects and stuff and skills? I've noticed a lot of stuff not working like I thought it would with that, like Mokou's fists not confusing things when using her fist-tree skills, and Nitori's gun skills not picking up her slayer.

>>8740765
Get Direct X 9. Not 10, not 11, 9.
Also make sure you're in Japanese locale when you download and extract the game.

>>8740049
>>8740052
I tried it a bit in the midgame and she'll hit as hard as my Sakuya but she doesn't have any +Acc so she misses way too much to be effective for where I'm at.

Where am I supposed to go in Eientei after hitting both buttons and opening up the shortcut. Every hallway looks the same and I've been walking around in circles for an hour.

>>8740786
I think the second thing worked. Is there a way to play it without being in Japanese locale all the time?

>>8740946
For the left side, you need to figure out the eternal corridor.
The solution is Go into the upper door right next to the door with the lights next to it, then go down twice. I think.The wiki walkthrough actually gets this part right, if you need more help.
For the right side, you need to go back outside and search the forest more thoroughly. There's some fairly obvious hidden passages in the bamboo.
Both parties should search their area thoroughly, in fact. There's some very nice treasure hidden around the place. Be sure to check for hidden passages under the overhanging roof.

>>8740957
No, not really.
I've never run into trouble with other programs from constantly being in Japanese locale, though, so that shouldn't be much of a problem.

>>8740969
It shoes \ as ¥ on filepaths which is a bit annoying.

We need to patch those recruit rates in DoD.

>>8741013
Recruit... rates? How does that work?

>>8741036
There is a certain percentage that each Youkai has of becoming your shikigami after you kill it. As some examples, the chance of recruiting a Great Demon is around 1%. The chance of recruiting a Hagure Yukkuri is 0.1%. The chance of recruiting Yukkuri Sisters/King/Metal is around 0.4%. For the more useful and powerful shikigami, the recruit rates are frustratingly low, so all you can do is find them and kill them for hours upon hours until you get lucky.

>>8741080
Is the system like that of some TRPGs where you can recruit an unlimited amount of disposable faceless grunts into your party, or like in I'm sure I played an RPG like this but I can't exactly remember where you can get one of each monster from the bestiary and it becomes permanent (i.e. you could call it "unlocking" each monster, not unlike Blue Magic in FF).

>>8741116
Similar to it, I think. In DoD, you can only recruit one of each shikigami, so it's not unlimited. But once you recruit one, it stays in your shikigami list forever.

>>8741138
Great, thanks. That's the system I like best. I said Blue Magic from FF but I didn't realize that we have our Satori in GoS.

How do you get new formations?

>>8741345
get new members.
do Quests in the expansion.
various things, like talk to NPCs after a certain conditions are met

It's not like you will need any formations except Poison Shield, Hinotori Skydance, Sonic Stream and Attack/Defense Keystone/

>>8741080
Speak of the devil, Hagure Yukkuri recruited! Fuck Yes!

Hello.
I am relatively new to /jp/.
What touhou, and how do I get into the games?

>>8741425
I get the impression that you're looking for something entirely else.
>>8699709
is where you should be headed.

If you're actually talking about those RPGs though... read the first two posts?

>>8739974
Once again, put a few points into Sanae's buff growth tree.
>13 Fast Casting 2 Status-increasing skill casting speed +100%
>>8740136
You need to leave a dungeon to add any items you find in it to your inventory. Dying doesn't count, it just makes you lose everything.
At least items in chests go back to them if you die.
>>8740392
That's the idea, hunting for character-specific synthesis items is not something you're really supposed to do in this game, at least before the expansion. The best rate you'll get for them is 1% with the most bullshit monsters in the final dungeon, too, so good luck if you want to try that. In the expansion, there are quests that always reward you with one of those items and have a 25% chance to give you an extra one, and a 1% chance of dropping a super crafting item, so don't worry about that too much.
>>8740762
The proc chance is obviously not 100%, but for Mokou's fists with enough points in her fisting tree it's pretty high. Just hope you get lucky.
As for Nitori's guns not having slayer effects... well, that's odd.

>>8741013
Actually, I'm okay with them. Sure, recruiting those guys in the last part of the final dungeon is bullshit, and recruiting Yukkuri is even more, but taking it easy is really overpowered in the game.
>>8741345
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Formations

Finally beat TewiReisen. Sakuya absolutely destroys them with the Arondight. I feel bad for using the Silver Trays, but eh.

>>8741755
you're so going to like the next stage and boss.

Assuming you're playing without a walkthrough.

>>8741760
I imagine Kaguya and Eirin won't be pushovers. I can't wait.

I seriously wonder how you're supposed to beat Kaguya/Eirin without using Byakuren, I guess technically you aren't supposed to even have her at that point. Are you just supposed to get lucky with Satori's Last Word, or is there a realistic way to do it without control?

>>8741824
I know that trying to beat Suwako/Kanako without petrify+instant death is like punching people until they turn into doors.

>>8741832
Apparently one guy beat them using Mokou and her Great Confusion gloves. They're not just vulnerable to instant death and petrify it seems. It may have worked for Kaguya/Eirin as well apparently, but I don't remember that well as the thread this was discussed in was quite some time ago.

>>8741824
She's not just vulnerable to control. You can charm or berserk her too.

Augh. I remembered everything about Inner Eientei and how to deal with it...except for the dragon maids. Whoops, 180-200 damage to your entire party, no fancy status effects attached.

>>8742135
Have Alice Little Legion and the rest of the party focus fire them while Alice takes the hit?

I don't know why, but I haven't played this game in a very long time after I got lost in the second forest of magic stage. I got too frustrated with not finding my way out that I just stopped playing... not sure if I want to go back now.

>>8742184
But then I'd have to use Alice, and to hell with that.

>>8741824

I just outdamaged the heals. Kagura only heals every other round or so.

>>8742135
I found it rather easy to take them out using Youmu and Marisa. Its those HDD things and Moon Race that give me the most trouble with their stop and remove status.

>>8742187
>But then I'd have to use Alice.
I am going to be ponderous on how you tackle the rest of the game with that attitude.

>>8742238
Forgot to explain that I have Youmu with a dragon slayer sword and Marisa spamming elemental spells. I'm planning on getting Youmu's character item after beating Kaguya and Eirin.

I want to use Satori but I can't get her to learn anything even with150% learning. Her status moves never land too and she has 53 IND.

>>8742244
I'll use her when I need to. But here, I don't.
Their really vulnerable to paralysis, apparently. On to Kaguya/Eirin.
Is there any treasure in the dark maze? I forget. I'm kinda wary of searching the place; that's where the 9-man rape squad lurks.

>>8742252
I've got Sanae in my party buffing my resistance at the start of every battle, Mokou for confusing the moon maidens, and Marisa can usually kill the hard drives before they get attack, or at least weaken them so whatever Sakuya and Satori do ends up killing them.

>>8742255
I thought those squids were pretty easy. Use Sanae's Sky Serpent (or something, the one that attacks in a narrow row) and it takes care of those alien squids in a single hit before they can even attack.

>>8742244
Tank with Mokou.

Dump all my power into the her hourai and IN trees. Use patchy to raise the land fire power, and then have Mokou use Xu Fu's, and she regenerates about 150 health per round. Then stack her with death resist and res up accessories and she pretty much never dies, and keeps the rest of the party alive with her last word.

>>8742252
The very basics of using Satori at the beginning means going to the Magic Forest and getting her some elemental spells off the mage fairies.

The most basic stuff to get are single target elemental spells of all types as well as multi target ones as well.

She's useful in that she's capable of carrying all elements like Patchouli into battle.

Satori's use ultimately depends on which spells you're willing to grind for however. If you don't have it, get the learning patch. Some skills are a 1% chance to learn and that only gets boosted to 3% if you max out her learning tree. If you don't want to spend several hours doing essentially the same mind numbing task of waiting for things to hit Satori then get the learning patch.

Also, Satori only has a chance to learn a particular skill once per battle. If she doesn't get it the first time, she won't get it no matter what during that specific battle so you have to run away. Also keep in mind, you have to finish the battle if you do learn a skill to actually learn it. If you die or run away it doesn't count.

Satori can cover a wide range of uses. From status inflicter, elemental caster, support, and debuffer. She can do all of these depending on what you spend the time to learn.

For status inflicting, start off with mind blast from mind flayers.
For elemental casting, start with mage fairies and foreign gods.
For support, start off with mass heal from the priests in the netherworld.

>>8742267
Did you get ambushed by a group of nine of them? I'm assuming no.

>>8742255
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=
http://www26.atwiki.jp/touhou_souzin/pages/124.html
Use the JP wiki for treasure checking. You've probably missed a few already. You can check how many treasures you have collected in records. By Kaguya and Eirin you should have a total of 197.

Also since you're in Eientei, consider learning Acid Storm for a cheap multi target water spell that causes -PDEF. It's also possible to learn time stop, but that requires Satori to be level 30.

Also Alice just simply makes life a lot easier in this game. Though I reckon she isn't absolutely necessary for normal mobs until the Gorgon Barrier. There, you need her or you will get wiped unless you use Byakuren as commander, go all out every single battle as fast as possible and head back to the healing circle to replenish bombs repeatedly. Some mobs are still capable of screwing you over right from turn 1 though like queen flayers, machine dragons, and any of the rare spawns. But that's a long ways away.

>>8742314
Oh, I've already got acid storm, and yeah it's prYOU CAN LEARN TIME STOP!?
Oh. Oh man, that is going to be FUN.

>>8742283
And then someone attacks your whole party, you're not using Marionette Parrar on the Poison Shield formation, and everyone but Mokou dies.

>>8742325
>and keeps the rest of the party alive with her last word.

>>8737026
Yeah but what are the chances of that happening on turn 1?

>>8742334
And then they die again, you revive them again, they keep dying, and everything ends like that one Anon who had Mokou alive but everyone dead with 0 lives.
Also, buffs don't carry through death, you know.

>>8742283
See, I'd just use Alice and have my party never die at all. Also the party can eventually run out of lives, it does happen. Ironically on my battle against post game Alice. Mokou can tank, but isn't really meant for it. She has no skills that allows her to take a hit for somebody else. And against enemy multi target skills like breaths, she doesn't do jackshit to help keep anybody from dying unless she casts XuFu's on other people which is honestly a bit of a waste. Her party autoraise skill is nice, but costs two bombs and has a long cool down which prevents her from using Fujiyama Volcano for a bit. Resurrecting people is nice, but ultimately isn't a thing that needs to be done in the first place if nobody ever dies. It's also better because cooldowns don't move while a person is dead, so they still have to wait even after they've been revived. There's also the matter of all buffs disappearing even if the character was under the effect of an auto raise skill.

If you ever want to field Patchouli, Satori, or Marisa late game, you have to use Alice or they'll very likely get taken out by the first multi target enemy skill each battle. Patchouli gets some stuff to help deal with magic attacks, but the breaths still destroy her.

What does the Divine Barrier 「神霊結界」 ability do, in DoD?

>>8742324
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Characters/Satori_Komeiji#Recommended_Learnin
g_Skills
Here's a list of recommended skills.

>>8742324
Oh wait, time stop is level 50. Sorry for getting your hopes up. You can get petro breath at level 30 though from cockatrices in the Garden of the Sun though as well as mind blast from mind flayers which is pretty much the same thing thinking about.

>>8742252

Satori is godly with poison. Up her ind, the status tree and equip +poison gear. It has a fairly high chance to proc and does like 500 damage per tic. Make sure she as +ind accessories. You should have a +15 and +30 one by the time you clear entei or whatever reisen lives.

Geez, I don't remember Kaguya and Eirin being this hard. I'm not even getting close to beating them.
I figured I could just control or charm Kaguya and I'd be fine, but then I realized...I don't have any control or charm spells. Like...at all.

I was interested, but then
>difficult

If it's not piss-easy, I'm not gonna bother.

>>8742492

I used alice in a line formation and a very good shield that I found. I also had reimu healing almost every single round so they couldn't kill everyone. Kagura only healed 800-1000 hp every other round, so it wasn't hard to kill eirin eventually. My party did about 1k damage per round.

So when does Satori get better? She's level 12 now and she still gets one-hit killed by everything because her HP is so low.

>>8742545
What the hell do you play? Mario Wii?

>>8742569

Protect her with alice. She doesn't get good until she gets poison and some +ind gear.

>>8742721
Or ind and any good status spell, really.

I sure like how the game gives you Byakuren, the character with most of the mental status spells you can use, right after a boss that practically NEEDS mental manipulation to beat.

>>8737034
Is the 1.11x patch link not working for anyone else?

>>8742793
The latest patch is 1.12 so they took down 1.11x.

http://www.gensoukyou.org/category/update/

>>8742737

You start the game off with her if you wait in her house.

>>8742282
>mass heal from the priests in the netherworld.
How would you get them to cast that on Satori?

>>8742903
Use charm.
Control doesnt work.

>>8742912
Awesome, I got it first try. Thanks.

Is there any progress on the translation of DoD or devil of decline?

>>8743033
In process. It got a thread some days ago.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12287.0.html

>>8742282
>mass heal
sucks, too expensive and low healing power. Area Heal from the monk giant dudes in stage 11 is way better.

>>8743690
Yeah, but stage 11 is 5 stages after the Netherworld. It's for starting off with.

>>8743927
I say it's a waste of time, both getting it and using Satori for it. Ooh, you healed 100 hp for 36 MP, ain't that something. You're seriously better off benching Satori until the mentioned heal is available. Until then, Mind Blast / Petro Breath, nothing else is really needed. Not that there is much use for those either, because you don't really have the necessary POW points at that point.

I wasted two hours to get Mass Heal and regret every minute of it. Same for Energy.

>>8737647
>>8737642
Anyone got a DL version for both OST?

>>8744567
you mean download link?
GoS OST is in the first post links
DoD OST http://www.mediafire.com/?9ob99kocc3mc252 (mod cunt deleted my post it seems)

How are you guys using Sakuya? I really want to use her with knives instead of some sword, but at this point, it looks like switching to the 2h would give her a lot more power. I use Sakuya primarily for ridding the field immediately of any hazards such as vorpal bunnies using misdirection.

>>8745872
I gave her a two-handed sword and never looked back.
She's just so damn strong with them. She hits like a truck, often twice, and most of her swords have excellent slayer effects.

>>8745872
2h for inaccurate power. (in time stop, everything hits anyway)
knife for using weapon effects. Or mambele 6 slayers.

>>8745872
Why use knives, when everything >>8745932 said is true? Even the accuracy problem is not a problem at all with a few Headshot Goggles anyway.
The only use I've ever found for a knife-wielding Sakuya was in the last boss, because the Mambele has slayer on reptiles, and her first 2-handed sword is just too weak for that point in the game.

>>8744378
It took you two hours to get mass heal? Mass heal is a support skill, it has a base learning chance of 50%. That's a guaranteed learn with just the first learning boost. And it's an all targeting skill so the first time the priest casts it on your party under the charm effect, it hits Satori.

How the hell did it take you two hours to learn Mass Heal?

>>8746045
getting those guys to cast mass heal the same turn when I get them on my side. I'm exaggerating, but it still took me far longer than I would like.

Can Satori not learn spells that hit her if Alice is marionette parraring her? Death zapper is not being cooperative.

>>8746083
She can, as long as it's either missing or dealing at least 0 damage to her. If Alice covers her with that other doll or Little Legion, however, learning is impossible.

>>8746083
She can. Skills only have one chance to be learned during battle. If she doesn't get it by the first death zapper, you need to run and re enter the battle.

>>8746090
I figured.
Been doing that for a while, but no luck. Strange.

>>8742244
I beat the game without alice no problem by using Aya in hinatori skydance forever. Even had her using the +drops axe or something for nearly everything.

>>8746158

It's much easier with alice though.

>>8744378
>>Mind Blast / Petro Breath

What's the accuracy and mp cost of those spells? How good are they against really strong foes?

>>8746301
about 15 mp with learning tree.
Depends on your IND; fairly reliable I say. Also, cockatrices drop Cockatrice Crest which apparently increases your petrify rate.

Satori, Byakuren, Cirno and Reisen are best buddies in the expansion.

>>8746301
Mind blast is a magic attack and petro breath is a breath so both their accuracies are pretty high. Satori has very little problems with MP honestly. She has quite a lot and she has MP use reductions in her growth trees.

Those two skill's main use is in inflicting status. Paralyze and petrify respectively. However Petro Breath won't inflict much damage due to Satori's lack of strength and the fact you'll likely go staves on her due to her eyes taking iron.

>>8746332

Killing normal enemies aren't a problem. The problem are the strong enemies like those angels or fully armored guys. Also doesn't using petrify on something prevent you from getting loot from them? And using petrify lower your dps? How does mind blast compare with the paralysis aoe skill that satori naturally learns?

>>8746365
No, petrify does not mean you don't get their loot. You still have to kill them, they just can't do anything but sit there and take it.
It does "lowers your dps", but that doesn't matter if the enemies aren't fighting back.
I think mind blast is more accurate. It also does decent damage.

For the big, tough enemies...well, where are you in the game?

>>8746425

I'm fighting tenshi now. Even if the enemy must stand there and take it, it means less more mp need to kill them if i'm wasting mp using mind blast. It's quite expensive at 20mp a pop and there's a lot of stuff it doesn't work on. I haven't tried petro breath yet, but so far it seems easier and faster to just kill them.

>>8746576
I don't think you understand the benefit of the enemy not being able to do anything. As soon as he's paralyzed or petrified, you can consider him dead, because you can just basic attack him to death with no danger.

>20 MP
PLEASE tell me you're not using Satori without 20 points in learning.

>>8746587

She has 25 points in her status effect tree. Even if I did have it, 15 is also to much mp. She only has 200 or less mp and mind blast is too unreliable. What's important isn't that mindblast works, but that it works on dangerous enemies. Which it tends to not.

I dont know about you guys.
But I use Satori exclusively as another elemental mage.
For me, mindblast and petrobreathe are too chance base.

>>8746602

You might as well use marisa.

>>8746608
I do.
I have Nitori/Patchy/Marisa/Satori most of the time in the same team.
The AOE attack like tsunami/earthquake and stuff are great
They do high elemental damage + status effect.

What party do you guys like to use? Surprised no one asked this yet

>>8746623

Reimu, sanae, patchy, marisa and alice. It can deal with anything. Alice and Reimu has shields/barriers for when I meet something dangerous. Sanae for matk/res buff and patch/marisa for damage. If something is weak to an element, marisa and often one shot it.

>>8746623
Mokou, Reimu, Sanae, Marisa and Patchy
Mokou tanks and does heaps of damage, reimu and sanae can Tank a bit and provide nice party support (and in some cases, deal nice damage too). Marisa and Patchy just spam magic
I also have Sakuya as my commander, it's pretty bad, but I like Sakuya, so yeah.
I also use Hakurei type as my formation, Hitonori skydance is too mainstream.

>>8746646

How do you deal with aoe spam?

>>8746623
I made it a point to keep my characters evenly leveled throughout the game until I couldn't do it any longer at the Gorgon Barrier.

I pretty much just whipped up a team combination using my lowest leveled characters even if it meant a somewhat mediocre team combination.

My favorite characters overall for the regular game would be Alice, Youmu, and Mokou now I guess. I like ludicrous burst damage and tanking.

My favorite formation was Hinotori Skydance, I very rarely used anything else and even those occasions were just for boss battles.

When Gorgon Barrier farming, the best party components seemed to be Alice, Mokou, and Youmu. Whoever's in the last three spots doesn't matter much as Mokou and Youmu are capable of killing everything in the dungeon.

Can someone link to the drop rate patch?

>>8746726
>>8704579

>>8746750
It's gone.

>>8746763
Either open it in a new tab so 4chan X automatically redirects you to the archive or search for the post number in the archive.

>>8746766
Cool. Thanks, I got it.

What does Exorcism do?

>>8746906
Breaks through divine barriers, aka the reason why those big angel and demon monsters take so little damage.

How do I update GoT?

When I run the .exe file I select the game folder and then nothing really happens.

Any help?

How are breath attacks "affected by HP?"
Do they do more damage to high HP targets? Do they do less if the user has low HP? Are the physical or magical?

>>8747026
having similar trouble, it says 100% on the bottom bar and it gives me some message but idk what it says since I cant read rune. My GoS is in my main computer and im on a laptop that overheats fast. anyone can help me?

>>8746917

So you're suppose to use characters with high exo against those angels and demons? Any other ways?

>>8747044
Use Byakuren's light sword or dark sword buffs on your heavy damage dealers.

Even then it's best to use those on physical attacks with exorcism anyways. With Byakuren and Youmu, foreign gods pretty much get stomped.

I love bosses like Suwako and Kanako. Brutally impossible until you figure out what to do, and absolutely hilarious after that.
Suwako just got pummeled to death by Satori. By SATORI.

You have to update the game from the Japanese version. Use the paks in the backup folder to make the game japanese. Then you can update to 2.09

>>8747143
This worked but now the game crashes. Should I just stay with 2.06?

>>8747221
You need to convert your save.

>>8747261
I would like to just say that I truly appreciate you. I never thought of converting my saved, and I was so close to throwing my laptop out of frustration. Thanks man.

How do formation stat changes work?
I generally avoid anything that debuffs because I'm paranoid of losing characters even if they do have multiple lives.

>>8747304
They do what they say. People in particular spots get percentage bonuses and penalties to certain stats depending on the formation. As well as some specific effects for some other formations. You can check the wiki for specific numbers.

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Formations/Bonuses

Also, everybody's going to die a lot, but you'll never see a character out of lives most of the time since you're likely to run out of bombs or MP much faster and end up going to a healing circle due to it. Also you can't permanently lose characters in this game.

I'm mostly too lazy to read the thread for an answer if one was posted, but is there any way to get items back if you lose them via getting every member of your party KOed in a fight?

>>8747409
For items from chests, go back and get them. Dropped items are gone for good, unless you're lucky enough for them to drop again.
There's a way to mess with the save data if you've been to the dungeon's healing circle, but it's more trouble than it's worth if you ask me.

Also, god damn it, Iku, just cast thunderclap. Just do it; just once, that's all I ask.

>>8737026
Go into the backup folder of the game. The files in there should be all backup###.sav. Go down to the last one in there that has a long japanese filename and copy it to your current save location. Remember to backup the save you are about to replace it with. Rename the new file "TSD000.sav" and open the game. The save should start you off in the dungeon, moments before you died. Word of caution, the same enemy party you died to will still be the next enemy mob you encounter. If you fight a mob different than you one you died to, the mob will be randomized again. Sorry if this made little sense, I'm willing to reexplain.

>>8747458
Sorry, the quote thing messed up, answer is above.

So what would be a good level for the Remilia fight? I got my ass handed to me when I just got there exploring the mansion

>>8747494
Do you have Byakuren and Mokou? Byakuren helps since she has a light spell.

>>8747494
Also level is nearly irrelevant until the final boss. Power allocation is a lot more important and strategy is king.

>>8747506
I do not, I figured this game was pretty linear and I was supposed to clear the mansion and Remilia would join or something. I'll look around and see if I can get them, thanks.

>>8747508
The game's mostly like that. It just allows you to get Byakuren and Mokou right at the start of the game otherwise they'd be the last two characters to join your party storywise.

For Mokou, navigate through the bamboo forest using the konami code.

For Byakuren, go to her temple and wait for her. She'll be back like Murasa said in an hour.

>>8747038
They seem to be considerably affected by the percentage of HP their user has when it's casted, but I've only really noticed that it really changes the damage you deal in DoD. It most likely works the same way in GoS, too, it's just that I've never used those skills with Satori.
Also, they're physical, I guess... check the bottom left of their icons, if there's a little fist there they're physical; if it's a wand they're magical.
>>8747494
Anything should do, just remember to set Sanae's RES buff up to stop everyone from getting charmed and just spam Reimu's bombs, with a few points in her growth things to make them stronger.
>>8747508
Sadly enough, Remilia is only available in the post-game (but boy, does she kick ass). After her fight, you'll get Nitori.

>>8747545
>Remilia is only available in the post-game
That's a tad saddening, I like Remilia. Can I get Wriggle to join my party? She's my favorite Touhou. Thanks for the tips too.

>>8747554
Nope, although I would love to see her being playable in this game. She doesn't even appear at all until the past game, too...
By the way, here's the list of characters:
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Characters

>>8747554
Sorry, but Wriggle never joins ever. I don't think she even appears.

I've finally gotten to where I lost interest the first time I played; Bhava-agra. How exciting~

>>8747559
>>8747568
Yeah I didn't figure she would be recruit-able, people don't seem to like her for some reason.

>>8747570
It's not that people don't like her, it's that people like other Touhous better.

>>8747570
It's because she's had very minor relevance in canonical works. To people who've played the game, Wriggle's most notable features are the fact you stand a good chance of being hit by her directly when she flies onto the screen and the fact she's a tomboy.

Marisa-playable character
Reimu-playable character
Sakuya-playable character
Youmu-playable character
Sanae-playable character
Aya-playable character
Patchouli-Marisa aide
Alice-Marisa aide
Nitori-Marisa aide
Byakuren-stage 6 boss
Mokou-extra stage boss
Satori-stage 4 boss, but makes a perfect blue mage.

>level 1 Mokou
>nearly every enemy in the mansion (including Remilia) does 0 damage to her
This seems legit

>>8747642
Yeah, you're not supposed to have Mokou or Byakuyren yet. At all. They're going to break the early game in half.

>>8747646
Oh well. I only have Mokou right now, I'll get Byakuyren later I suppose. How do I use these recipes I keep getting?

>>8747694
from Akyu? Go pay Rinnosuke a visit.

>>8747698
Where is he at?

>>8747707
in Kourindou, right next to stage 3 in the forest. Go there for the cutscene, you can start crafting after that.
I strongly recommend you to be ultra stingy with your materials, though... I would leave crafting for much later and just use the weapons you find elsewhere.

>>8747707
Next to the forest of magic. You'll know when you can get to him.
Be careful with synthesizing. Materials are scarce throughout the game. Go for effects and slayers you like before higher numbers, and don't bother crafting the non-character specific weapons at all. They're not worth it.

>>8747717
Yeah, I figured out where after I posted that, it wouldn't let me enter the place from below and I accidentally ran into it from above and I got in so whatever. Thanks for the tip, I don't think I could really make anything with just 1 iron and 1 bamboo anyway

>>8747723
>>8747724
keep some Iron in yo pocket

Do we have any recommendations for some particularly good synthesis equipment?

>>8747731
Bah, worry about that at the end. You're going to need to grind levels anyway.

>>8747732
The melee DPS character weapons(Sakuya, Mokou, Youmu, and Nitori).

Weapons of note for other characters are Byakuren's +IND and +MDEF scrolls, Aya's +EVA fan, and Alice's all elemental resistances greaves.

That's about it besides for Kusanagi.

All the magic users make due with staves just fine.

>>8747747
>Alice shoes
I have yet to buy some. Brunhilde and Tefla Sword are good enough and look cool.

I haven't finished the game yet but I want to know how powerful Remi is since she is my favourite and I'll be dissapointed if she is not broken as fuck as in the fighters.

>>8748116
I guess she's alright... pretty much what Aya would have been if she had some damn attack power. Quite accurate, fast hitting.

But still overshadowed by the craziness of Reisen and Yuugi.

>>8748116
You can easily get 500+ PATK with her at level 1.
Still, just like pretty much all physical attackers, her accuracy is piss poor.

>>8748116
Guy who recently started post game here. Looking at her growth trees, she looks pretty fantastic. However I've grinded her up to level 60 while farming Lithos's kedama quest and she doesn't seem to have any really decent damage skills. Red the Nightless Castle is decent and spammable, but overall isn't that accurate unlike Mokou's Fujiyama Volcano.

Reisen, however is ludicrous from what I've seen of her. A couple of screenshots to follow.

>>8748225
She only has 387 PATK, as well as a physical attack buff from Byakuren here. She is level 59. The upper left most kedama did not have a status effect unlike all the others so he did not receive Reisen's slayer against enemies with status effects. This is using her two bomb physical spell card.

This is Reisen using the same skill again on a now berserked kedama, however this time she also has Byakuren's amplifying scroll buff and a full power buff from those enemies earlier. By the way, Reisen only has 4 bombs total base, but a total of 10 extra is possible through her growth trees. 6 of them being in a single tree which is also the one that gives Reisen slayer to a fuckton of enemy types.

I'm kind of awed at how OP Reisen is and I haven't gotten Yuugi yet so I'm kind of worried on what she's going to be like by how >>8748119 grouped them together.

>>8748248
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg_gE4qBjVU

>>8748248
Wait, I got the bomb numbers wrong. She starts with 7 base. For a total of 17 including her growth trees.

>>8747732
now that the guy above mentions bombs... Cute Soul and Awakened Soul are probably the best piece of accessory, next to this baby. Not sure about those two items which either increase/decrease physical/magical damage.

>>8747732
Since we're on the topic. Nitori's, Youmu's, and Sakuya's armors are fairly decent since they also aid their offense. However, with defense not being that relevant as an actual stat since most characters can be categorized in dies in one hit or doesn't die in one hit and most actual hitting being done to your tank optimally, better armor isn't worth being crafted simply due to its defenses being better most of the time.

Alice's armors are also the only heavy armors that give any notable amount of MDEF however you can simply just put a MDEF bracelet in one of her accessory slots for the most part. Even if she takes normal damage from magic, her HP is huge enough that she can still take the hit for the entire party and live in most cases.

>>8748225
>>8748120
>>8748119
Well this is dissapointing.
I expected the most powerful character of the game.
Anyway until now (just beat komachi ) I have used almost every character aside from Nitori and Aya since the firstt ability, chasers, is not that useful in most cases, since it´s expensive for using against dungeons and too weak for using against bosses.
And Aya's evassiveness ability is good but I prefer Alice defense by far.
Average level is 26 going for the garden of the sun. Should i grind before going? I´m already bringing Sanae to not get petrified to death.

>>8748400
just look how much XP your characters get after each battle... there's the set amount of XP from each kill, which is then increased or decreased depending on the level of the battling touhous.
There's no need to grind Satori up to 30 yet (for Petro Breath). As mentioned, at this point Satori is not very useful anyway.

>>8748408
forgot to mention - the Cockatrices only appear in certain areas. You don't need Sanae elsewhere. Still, beware those elephants and earth rocks.

>>8748261
Hakurei Ribbon does everything High Ribbon does even better

>>8748481
of course, it's an upgrade of the High Ribbon after all. An unnecessary one if you ask me though. Adamantite&Obsidian are better spent somewhere else. 50% are good enough.

>>8737026

Someone mind helping me with this? I try to install the patched and translated version of the game, but everytime WinRar gets to part 4 of the bunch it just tells me something about "unexpected end of the archive". I've tried to download the part 4 multiple times, but it just doesn't work.

Is the file perhaps broken, or something similar?

>>8749068
it's not really hard to get those in the postgame though. Especially since the Quest boss that drops Adamantite is vulnerable to Petrification.

>>8749098

Bumpan, I'd really want to give this a go.

>>8749098
Are you in Japanese locale when you extract it? Were you when you downloaded?

>>8749098

mediafire servers are probably fucked atm since I dl'd all the parts just fine two days ago.

>>8749270
http://www.mediafire.com/?a8c1by6btaid7

this is the game patched to 2.09 and on english already. Try this one out. I did the same since i had problem with the patching.

>>8749098
Try 7zip.

Does anyone here know how many official shrines there are in Nishinomiya? [pic unrelated, albeit awesome.]

>>8749288

This helped, thanks guys.

>>8746655
Well, I've never had any problems with anything
Of course I switched my party accordingly to beat bosses, though

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IF YOU DON'T POST THIS TO FIVE OTHER BROS YOU ARE NOT A DICK

I'm stuck in the Garden of the Sun.
I've hit the lever about 75% in but have absolutely no idea where I'm supposed to go next.
Anyone remember where to go after you've removed the thing that removes your "color"?

>>8749615
Bring the orange smoke from the first room to the area past the white smoke. Search carefully; the way forward is tucked away pretty well, and there's a ton of treasure chests hidden in nooks and crannies behind color flowers.

Argh, Bhava-agra is a navigational nightmare.

>>8749630
Alright, thank you!
I'll look more carefully. Getting bombarded with status ailments has made this place horrible to get lost in.

How the hell do I handle these guys? They're the only enemies here I really have a problem with.

>>8749742

Why not put them in a line formation so alice can protect everyone? I never had problems with that guy with my all magic team so I don't know.

Albino team only master race.

>>8749774
I guess I could try that.

This place really has me stumped, though. I cannot figure out how to bring down this barrier. I've backtracked through the preveous level through the shortcuts and found the gold key you unlock earlier, but have no idea what to do next.

>>8749823

>>8749829
tip: you can reach this place from two ways.

I sometimes see people with spells that have Last Spell in them. What does it mean? Master spark and patchy has some spells that has it.

>>8749829
Yeah, I know. But neither of the two switches I can get to do anything to this barrier.

every day until janitor apologizes to me for deleting my creative threads

>>8749900
It means they use two bombs. I think they also mess with your other spell's cooldowns.

>>8749908

Nah, it only uses one bomb.

>>8749897

The switch a bit south of that lowers that barrier, however it also prevents you from going back up. Keep going south after you switch the switch and go back into the previous stage. Than circle around and get back there.

>>8749934
I just did that, and it worked. I'm positive I did that before, but...

>>8749934
No, last spells definitely use two bombs. It says so right in the spell descriptions.

Does anyone know how the gamer fan works? Do I need to attack with it for it to work? How much does it increase drop rate?

>>8749994
One post on pooshlmer said that it increases drop rates by 0.1%. One of your party members just has equip it and as far as i know it even works if the commander holds it. I never heard anything about the Pro Gamer Fan increases though...

>>8749774
Because Poison Shield with Alice at the front using Parrar on everyone at the back is better?
>>8750132
>Pro Gamer Fan
0.2%, most likely. That's what I've seen somewhere at least.

>>8750181

How do you get poison shield?

Also does it add .2% or does it multiply? Like if the base chance is .1 does it go to .3?

>>8750181
How do you get that? I didn't understand the wiki and moved on.

>>8750187
You need to inflict Toxic status on one enemy and then go to the healing circle in Garden of the Sun. Alice will talk for a bit and you'll get it.

>>8750205

Don't you not get toxic until end game?

>>8750240
Toxic just means poison with high enough IND.
Pump your satori's IND with POW points, Hyper Trigger, Launch Earrings and Poison Art / Hand some poor monster.

>>8750187
I think it's +0.1% to everything (1% + 0.1% = 1.1%)

>>8750258
0.2% i mean

derp herp

Would toxic be similar to venom? Using a specific spear on Alice and attacking inflicts poison that hits with 300 every turn. Regular poison for me is around 100.

>>8750284
I think Toxic is 600 damage per turn. At least that is what Sanae's High Tier weapon does.

Is using Satori essential? Gathering enemy abilities is a pain, I'd rather just smash shit.

>>8750240
You can actually get it right before the fight again Yuuka/Medicine, which makes it much easier.
If you're having trouble reaching a high damage with your poison, try crafting Satori's Green Eyes (+25% poison damage) and find a Poison Lily (+10% poison damage, IIRC) lying around somewhere.

>>8750327
She's a good and fun character to use, and the drop rate patch also boosts learning rates. You don't NEED to use her, but you probably should.

>>8750327
probably not essential. My Satori was quite mediocre overall even with stuff like Starlight Barrier and I made it quite far.
She has some broken spells in the expansion - or so I heard.

>>8750327
Her poison build is pretty amazing for the first 16 or so levels, if you don't want to waste too much time grinding her skills.

>>8750324

I never knew where to find poison lily.

Are elemental weapons and attacks elementalized by Byakuren effected by land? Do they effect the land themselves?
If a attack with Sakuya enchanted with fire, will fire levels get boosted and water levels lowered?

Killing an enemy with toxic was easier than I thought, but nothing happened when I went to the healing circle. Why?

>>8750378
I think you need to go there with Alice as your Overworld character.

How do you find diamonds?

>>8750349
Forest of Magic 1, 西部北西-I .
>>8750378
The one in the Garden of the Sun? That's weird.
>>8750410
Lucky drops, some chests here and there, I guess, and a post-game quest.

Alice also needs to be in the party when you kill the foes with toxic.

>>8750403
It worked.
God that's obtuse. How are you supposed to find that on your own? Would it be to so hard for Medicine to hint at it or something?

>>8750412

Are any of those quest repeatable?

>>8750350
Still want an answer for this. It's important.

>>8750420
Yes, you can do them over and over again. But there are only a few quest available at the same time and they always change after you finish a quest, so you might need to do some other quest before you can do the same one again.

This can actually be very annoying...

>>8750423
Attacking with weapons that are enchanted with an element will not raise land. When you attack with a Dark Elemental weapon and the land is on maximum light, you will still do normal damage. Land does not influence weapon damage.

I just tried that out using Dark Sword on Youmu and using Reimu to get max. Light.

>>8750423
Yes, no, and no.
Well, actually, I have no idea for the last two questions, but I know that their damage gets stronger with favorable land/Patchuland.

Oh...oh my. This is going to be hard.

Or not.
What the hell? I was all psyched up for a nightmarish, intense fight. That was pathetic; once I figured out how to deal with her stone shower she never hit for more than 50 damage, and Sakuya and Patchy tore her down in, what, 10 turns?

I am so fucking disappointed.

Oh, and we're autosaging.

I'm about to start stage 10 and I decided to collect the treasure I've forgotten to get with the help of the Japanese wiki. God, some of those are in horribly dickish locations, like some of the ones in the Forest of Magic.

Made a new thread at >>8752437, but I guess it's way too late for it to get any replies. So it may have been made in vain. I should have waited until tomorrow.