/jp/ - Otaku Culture

No.
I have to interact with people everyday and I hate it.

>>8741263
I can't interact with people everyday.
Is hurts.
Get on my level scrub.

Once on a bus, some time ago, I witnessed two people finding each other. They sat two seats ahead of me and what started as small talk escalated into a promise to go out to dinner. I listened for 45 minutes to these two strangers telling each other about their lives and what interests they had and so forth. It was jarring.

Not really, no.
I already have to deal with my sisters.

I am normal.

>>8741278
I fucking hate this feel.
Fucking people, making me contemplate suicide.

I wish I was in Gensokyo.

>>8741292
HAHA PARTY TIME.

>>8741246
I wish I could be normal but didn't have all the normality obligations at the same time.

No, fuck people.

>>8741302

I wish you were in Gensokyo.

She hasn't responded to my message yet.
What do.

>>8741312
Thank you!

normals are the first ones to die to conspiracy's

Normals lead boring lives. They only do what people expect them to do and cannot survive a week without someone acknowledging their existence. Sometimes I wonder if they are even conscious.

No need to post that XKCD comic.

>>8741302
>>8741323
I wish you could be in Gensokyo too.
I wish we could both be in Gensokyo and take it easy.

>>8741326
but they dont think about themselves this way and they arent constantly depressed

>>8741334
Separate Gensokyos, right? It would suck if both of you went for the same girl.

I have to fake it on a regular basis.

So no.

Rather than being "normal" and live a boring life I just wish to be able to talk to and understand people . . . sometimes.

Then I'm actually around them people I realize what a stupid thought the above was and have me a couple anxiety attacks.

>>8741334
That would be great!

When will you realize that everyone out of normalfaggotry is a nerd?

Are you a nerd?

>>8741355
>just wish to be able to talk to and understand people
;_;
>fall in love with a 3DPD online
>it doesn't work out because I can't into human interaction.
I just want...Someone.

I hate normals, as people because I tried being normal. Back in high school I tried my hand at the social world and I had success. But I fucking hated every single one of them. I wasnt teased any more than anyone else or mocked or anything but jesus CHRIST. EVERY OTHER FUCKING SENTENCE OUT OF THEIR MOUTH IS A HORRIBLE UNFUNNY ATTEMPT AT HUMOR THROUGH BULLSHIT POP CULTURE REFERENCES AND MEMETICS AND LOADS OF OTHER BULLSHIT AND DEAR CHRIST
I HATED THEM /jp/
YOU ARE BETTER THAN THEM DONT EVER BE SAD YOU DONT GET TO SOCIALIZE WITH THEM, EVER
YOU PEOPLE LEAD THE GOOD LIFE WITH GOOD PEOPLE(far more so than them anyway.)
So no, I dont. You dont want to interact with them, to be normal.

>>8741365
I know, right? Like a relationship, where both partners can perfectly understand each other, and then you could still have a personal time, and you never experience jealousy or was concerned by your partner's appearance?

>>8741378
Being so far up above must be lonely.

>>8741344
Well I like to think that all of /jp/ would get to go to the same Gensokyo and we could all have fun together and be friends, but if two or more Anons liked the same Touhou, there could be a problem.

In a perfect world we would all like a different Touhou, but that's not always the case. /jp/ is small though and has diverse taste, so I feel it could work out in certain cases. Best solution would be a handful of Gensokyos where several Anons all with different tastes would get to go to and if two Anons share the same taste, one would get to go to a different one, along with the other Anons who shared tastes.

So there is like one first Gensokyo, and if a certain Touhou in that world is taken, they are sent to the next one, which will also have Anons sent there. This way everyone will be able to have their favorite Touhou. Each Gensokyo will only have one Anon per Touhou, with each Anon having a different favorite Touhou.

Hopefully me and the other person have different favorite Touhous so we can be together.

>>8741378
>lead the good life with good people
I can't interact with good people though.

>>8741384
She doesn't exist.[/spoiler
But you knew that.]

>>8741385
What?
>>8741387
I was complimenting you and the rest of /jp/.

Not really. I enjoy being alone and doing my own thing.
It's too much effort being "normal".

No, I have attained a level of pleasure in my hedonistic and delusional lifestyle that would not be possible if I was normal. I see these people pursuing what makes them happy and I want other people to be happy but my happiness is more of an internal force. I don't talk to people when I am about and I ignore people who ntry to start up conversations with me but that isn't because I think I am better than them. It is because I have a different way of enjoying life. The longer I spend as /jp/er the more I revel in this life style. I don't understand loneliness and being disenfranchised by my social shortcomings, that is because I have what I want in life and the only thing I want is to continue to live.

>>8741385
Story of Immortal Defence game was about something similar.

>>8741397
But I want something more than just...This.

>>8741365
i know that feel

-years of solitude-

>>8741384
>a relationship, where both partners can perfectly understand each other
It doesn't work that way Anon. The closest you can get to that is talking online anonymously at places like /jp/.

I wish I was more like my normal friends who could focus on getting things done, but that's probably something that could be solved by ADD drugs.

But by /jp/'s standards I'm already pretty normal anyway.

Also, to the person who's trying to subtly stir shit up, just stop. It's unsightly.

>>8741385
If youre trying to accuse me of some act then kindly suck my cock dude. I hate them but I like /jp/ and I especially like my best friends.

>>8741403
>because I have what I want in life and the only thing I want is to continue to live.
I went through the same phase
Shit will come crashing down one day

>>8741397
When you set yourself above others you tend to become lonely. Stupiiid!~

>>8741411
He is saying that gods don't have friends, because most of other creatures either don't see you as a person or don't understand you completely.

No no and no.
I hate normals.

>>8741415
I know I know
That is why this way of interacting, while being way less satiating, brings less pain than other social actions.

>>8741429
I don't know, making a well worded with all your effort post that no one responds is more painful to me than some normal being distant or not being my friend.

Honestly the world is evolving and we should role with the punches, you are more likely to find people you like online then at the grocery store or on the bus.

I think the key to happiness is not worrying about things like being normal or not.

I can't speak for the OP, but even fucking weirdos with all kinds of personality defects can have friends. You just have to expand your definition of friendship.

In our little subculture or whatever you wanna call it, electronic friendships are very common and more often than not are much more naturally occurring than trying to force a friendship with someone you don't really have anything in common with in real life.

>>8741419
>>8741420
I set myself above them, yes, but because I truly honestly cant bring myself to see them as anything higher than animals.
But I do have friends, I have 3 best friends who I love more than my family and mean the world to me. Im content in the NEET life because I can spend time with them.

>>8741437
I don't know.
I put my heart, and make a real effort into have relationships/friendships but they never work.
That kills me more.

That feel when people attempt to be your friend and include you in their little 'circle', but you've been a hikikomori for too long to know how to respond.

>>8741447
Fuck you mang.
Fucking normie.

every human is my friend
even that scumbag dentist

>>8741456
2 of them are /jp/sies. All of them I have never met in real life.

>>8741443
This 3D girl has been hitting on me this semester but she stopped after I somethings happened. She asked me for my phone number and I told her I didn't own one (lie) and she tried to hug me so I backed up and told her I don't like being touched. She hasn't spoken to since.

>>8741413
I don't think it is a phase, I am happy. If my life evolves then so be it. I am just going to take everything in stride and try to keep my happiness.

>>8741463
You're normal-er than me.
You disgust me.

I don't wish to be normal, although I wish to be happy, but, If I'm already happy I'll wish to be happier.. . . . . . . .

Fuck it.

>>8741464
Fucking normie.

>>8741437
I can totally expect noreplies, its common, but when you say something to a person (especially if you know each other) and see then a blank stare on his face.... Also, you have limited time to actually say something and cant prepare well. Phone calls even worse in that case, they perfectly combine disadvantages of internet talk and real life conversation

>>8741450
I have never done that so I don't know that pain. Any friend I have ever had I just quit being fiends with them out of the blue on a whim. I had a problem with getting bored with people and dropping them growing up, I changed best friends constantly and always acted like an asshole to girls even when they were nice to me. I realized that I am not cut out to be anyone's friend.

>>8741447

>>8741471
I cant tell if youre joking or if I should explain why youre the normal here for the attempts to fit in.
Im sorry, ive only recently graduated high school and my time with normals ruined my sense of humor. Like I said, in addition to lots of bullshit every fucking sentence out of their mouths was an attempt to be funny and I cant tell whats a joke and what isnt anymore.

Yes, every day. I have so much love to give, but I don't trust anyone and I am too afraid. ;_;

>>8741478
>I just quit being fiends with them out of the blue on a whim
You monster.

I'm not good with people.

One day, a girl started talking to me and she asked, nicely, in a way without malice, why I was alway alone, why I never interacted with anyone, told me that I should be more open to people trying to befriend me. I promptly told her to fuck off, and she went away. Moments later, I felt bad for acting like this. This kind of thing happens everytime.
So yeah, I don't wish to be normal. I wish to be alone as much as I can. They are better off without me and so am I.

furries call non-furries norms.
Do you want to be a like a furry?

>>8741487
Love me then, S

>>8741486
I've been isolated for 10 years get on my fucking level normie.

>>8741496
Youll always be ten years ahead of me. So when will I get my sense of humor back, hikkimori-dono?

>>8741486
well, school days are cool.
But when you finish the institute and end up jobless, you have no sources of having friends. Because adults dont actually have "new" friends, they hang out with colleagues, maybe childhood friends and maybe family relatives.

you know what? You have plenty of time to end up being normal.

>>8741509
Whenever you stop having assburgers.

>>8741511
Im afraid I dont fully understand you.

>>8741488
Yeah yeah, typo. People on an individual basis are just uninteresting in the long run. I figured this out at a young age.

>>8741527
Context, anon, the lines became blurred when I was constantly exposed to a horrible blend of constant irony, pop culture references, and XDSORANDUM every day~

>>8741492
...Good point.
Normie.

>>8741501

Sorry Anon, you will just get mad at me when I don't talk to you for awhile because I'm too afraid, and then you will tell me I don't really care about you and tell me that I've hurt you and stop talking to me. It's probably best you just stay away.

>>8741529
its okay. When I was at school, there was no internet, and there weren't any of such problems. I mean, a lot of stuff is going to happen in just a few years, so later on you could remember silly yourself sitting with together some losers on silly imageboard and have a good laugh about how could you even relate to them.

who gives shit faggot kill urself off lyfe retard gb cryin 2 /r9k/

>>8741541
This always bothered me about normals, they just can't settle down and only open their mouth when they have something meaningful to say. Sometimes I think people just talk to hear the sound of their own voice. Where are all the quiet normals?

>>8741492
I thought they called them "mundanes"

>>8741548
thats silly anon, internet people and relationships arent the same. Im not him but at the worst id just go on and off between trying to talk to you often and not.

>>8741553
Dont say that /jp/. ;_;

>>8741492
in "outcast" terms they are right, maybe. It would be funny to see them being disgusted about /jp/ as well, because they are much more social than this place.

>>8741548
...I...Hmm.
That's not you is it, S?

If /jp/ was only allowed to speak when they had something meaningful to say we would get one post a day.

>>8741560
The same place all the non-posting /jp/ers are.

You don't see or hear them.

>>8741560
I think they honestly find it funny. God only knows how or why, but they seem to.

>>8741564
It will hurt only for a while.
I had that feeling after quitting some mmo guild. I nearly cried while doing that, and I read about the guild later on, having urge to return. But now I can clearly say that absolutely nothing held me to them, or that terrible game, and I was wasting time pointlessly much harder than there, with a terrible normal community, to add.

>>8741588
pls go

That feel when someone you met online, who lives in the same area, asks if you want to hang out some time.

>>8741588
That feel when you will never know this feel

Today I went to CVS to get something but even after looking through every section I couldn't find it. I was to scared to talk to anyone. I walk out of the store and felt like crying.

No one but /jp/ could possibly understand this feeling.

Only when I need a hand and think "man I sure wish I had someone here to help out."

On the bright side learning and doing everything by yourself makes you stronger than a regular person would be.

Now that I think about it.. having a conversation with someone you're comfortable with face to face might be nice. Haven't done that in a very long time and anyone I talk to now leaves me nervous and jittery and I can't wait to get away from them.

>>8741593
I know that feel, but with the library.
Also, when I do find a book I want.
I'm too scared to ask to borrow it.

>>8741583
I...Well thats not really what I dont like the sound of...Id rather not explain it to a strange anon though.

>>8741592
But I do know this feel. I am a hikikomori though, so it's not going to happen.

>>8741593
I can even socialize okay if needed, but damn, I cannot ask for help in a store. It's scary.

Funny that I can imitate normal person to an extent. I don't have anxiety seizures at the store or at any usual encounter on the street, especially if I have to do something, not for myself. Everything sudden, unusual, casual talk or a perfomance will cause instant lockdown: nothanks, Ihaveotherbusiness, icantdothat. Getting back to the comfort zone as fast as possible. I don't know how its even possible for other people to flip out shit and look cool, I'd rather kill myself than try to do something out of standard protocol. Ironically, this probably makes me more normal than normals.

>>8741489
I used to go to a cheap pizza place every once in a while after I got out of college (back before I dropped out). Of course I'd always show up alone and one time a fat waitress asked why I always came by myself and lightheartedly told me to bring a bunch of people next time. I could do nothing but fake laugh a little and say ok.
I never went back

My female coworkers at a job I worked a few years ago said I always looked mad and I'd probably feel better if I had sex. I wonder if they're right.

>>8741670
At least you were polite.
Whenever someones talks to me, specially about this kind of stuff, I act like a cornered beast.

I really wonder what would a normal say or think if made to consider being two weeks (heh) without human contact. Because I don't know exactly how "far out" we are in that regard.
Does anybody know? Do they seriously think about it, or go "That's impossible, man", or even take it as a joke because it's inconeivable?

>>8741713
For some of them it depends on whether or not interacting with people over the internet constitutes human contact.

I'm sure anybody who's gotten into an MMO could easily envision it, even if it is 'far out' for them.

>>8741713

Loneliness is extremely painful for some extroverts, being easier or harder than a deeply introverted person to be in a crowd is up for debate.

>>8741246
No, if I wanted to be normal I would stop being a whiny bitch and become normal.
Instead I'm here by choice and lead a very happy life

>>8741343
That's nice for them and I'm happy for them, but such a life would truly depress me

>>8741246
oh /jp/ sometimes I really don't get you, were you guys severely bullied as kids or what?

>>8741822
Go away /k/.
I-It's not like I like you or anything.
Baka.

/jp/ lead boring lives. They only do what otaku culture expect them to do and cannot survive a week without someone acknowledging their existence. Sometimes I wonder if they are even conscious.

I don't care about not being normal. I mean, it isn't like I try not to be normal; I just am what I am.

I don't care for friendships very much, but I am bothered that I don't know what love is. I've had opportunities to have sex, but I'm not interested in sex in and of itself. I'm kind of cold and distant, for the most part, and that will keep me from getting what I want.

Sometimes I wonder: if I could go back in time to when I was 5 with all the knowledge I have now would I choose the path of success and love or become a comfortable NEET again. I ponder this frequently and I still can't decide for myself.

>>8741278

Thanks for typing that out, it moved me.

>>8742155
As a wise man once said, "I yam what I yam, and that's all what I yam."

Cutting down on attempts at interaction with people (even in the internet) and only talking to people on 4chan has been very good for my mental health, not even joking. So no.

Not one bit. Being alone is a thousand times better than being surrounded by people, no matter what.

No. "Normal" people may be some of the most fake and shallow garbage I've had the displeasure of dealing with. Beyond the useless chit-chat and smalltalk are nothing but lies. The only friends I've ever made were loners and socially awkward fuck-ups, but even they eventually left me because they wished to be "normal". I realized that the only thing that separated them from "normal" people was that they were bad at lying and creating a believable facade. Still, that didn't stop them from trying.

What I wish for every day is a 2D world, where everything is honest and beautiful. One where I can wake up without any pretenses of "doing something with my life", without worry of other people, and just lie in bed, hugging my waifu.

>>8742266
>No. "Normal" people may be some of the most fake and shallow garbage I've had the displeasure of dealing with. Beyond the useless chit-chat and smalltalk are nothing but lies. The only friends I've ever made were loners and socially awkward fuck-ups, but even they eventually left me because they wished to be "normal". I realized that the only thing that separated them from "normal" people was that they were bad at lying and creating a believable facade. Still, that didn't stop them from trying.

Well put anon

Someone sent me a private message on a forum I visit today. After reading it, and not being able to think of a reply, I logged out so I could continue browsing the forum without it looking like I'm ignoring him.

Why am I such an autist. ;____;

>>8742278
It's okay, I still love you.

>>8741246
Nope.
I have been a hikikomori for years now and live a happy life. I don't know nor care what normals do with their lifes as long they stay the fuck away from me.

>>8742278
You seem just timid.

>>8742266
a 2d world doesnt imply you wont be expected by some to do something with your life
but it is an honest world. Where when you find love, she truly loves you, and doesnt simply want sex or money, and where people wont constantly say things they dont mean in the slightest, and...ahh....excuse me, I have to go lie in bed and think about a better world.

>>8743018
>a 2d world doesnt imply you wont be expected by some to do something with your life
Ah, no it doesn't, you're right, it's just how I imagine it to be, which in the end is all this is. I've always imagined it to be a state of suspended bliss, like a slice of a pleasant endless dream.

Some time ago I found in a bus a guy I first met more than six (wow) years ago. We were in the same RO guild for two or three years, together with lots of guys from this tiny country and some foreigners. I was happy then.
He gave me his e-mail address, but I can't bring myself to contact him. I don't know how I would have to speak with him. Chat for some minutes and then never come back? Greet him every day? At any rate, what would I even say? I just don't know.
I think if I were more normal, I wouldn't be bothered by these things. That'd be nice.

You are already a normalfag by wanting to be one. True men are happy being alone and wish for it. People are scum.

I do fine when thrust into a conversation, but initiating contact with people terrifies me, online and off. I always feel like they won't be interested in what I have to say, I'll do something dumb and embarrass myself, or they'll just be too busy. Once I'm actually talking to someone those fears go away, but it makes it hard to take the first step towards making friends.

>>8742266
>>8743018
>>8743128
I've finally had a dream where I was self inserted into a 2D/anime styled world. I was seeing everything through a first person view point. I was even in school and it was pure bliss. I felt so calm and genuinely happy.

Of course I eventually woke up and when I did.......I just sat up in my bed staring at the wall for an hour or so replaying my dream in my head.

>>8743163
I'm basically the same, but even then, I don't enjoy conversation. I feel like I'm deflecting bullets trying to mentally come up with responses to what people are saying. It's very tiring. I don't mind listening, though, but no one talks to me.

>>8743168
That sounds so nice. Consider yourself lucky; I haven't been able to recall a dream in years.

>>8743158

>>8743163
Get out, myself.

>>8743172
I often feel the same way with online conversation. Offline surprisingly isn't as bad, as actually being with a person and having stuff around you to comment on makes things more natural. Less awkward lulls where you have to force a new topic.

obligatory.

>ITT

>>8743130
Have a drink with him sometimes and talk about good old times in the guild, and maybe about new games if he is a gamer or what new.

>>8741246

Beign "normal" as you say it's very overrated, because a normal person way of life it's something like this: "i need to buy newest technology, have to buy newest clothes, i must listen to the shitty pop culture music so i can be like every normal person, have to think of politics and religion the same way everyone else, have to be a fucking asshole with people around you (like a selfish prick, a backstaber, greedy, lier etc.).
So i'm gratefull i'not normal and instead a humanist, atheist, otaku and i'm very happy.

Friendship and interaction it's not a thing of numbers, but of how much you care for them and vice versa, even the most social restraint people have someone to care.

>>8743171
What? I'm conscious that as a human I'm also a piece of shit. That doesn't mean that I want to hang out with other pieces of shit.

Jesus Christ, you people are idiots. I can't tell if you're all newfags or just retarded, but seeing I'm on /jp/ probably the latter.

Just because someone is happy with their life doesn't mean they're a normalfag. They are only a normalfag if they have a girlfriend/relationship, lots of friends, social life, successful job, etc. This world is tossed around so much it makes you guys just as bad as Redditfags spouting memes in real life.

Find a new word to insult someone who's happy with their life of being alone with their waifu, cause normalfag isn't the right one.

>>8743225
No, I think being aware of how shitty you are necessarily creates a distinction between you and even shittier normal people.

It's like how being conscious of one's insanity is a sign of sanity.

>>8743210

Fuck you.

That scene made me tear up

>>8743163
Same here. I can't bring myself to contact somebody unless I have an actual reason to. It's too awkward for me otherwise. Thankfully, the guy I chat with regularly online is friendly, talkative and more outgoing than I am so I get spared those awkward feels.

>>8743242
Who the fuck is using the term "normalfag" to describe anything but normalfags? I can't find anyone seriously conflating happiness with being normal.

I actually never understood why people add the " fag" part to it?
Cant you just call them normals?
But actually its hard to say whats today normal and whats not.

Wanted to be normal is like wanting to be mentally retarded. Sure, sometimes I envy retards in their blissful ignorance. Sometimes I wish that I could believe in santa claus, or god; but deep down I know that its just fundamentally wrong.

>>8743267

Your new is showing.

>>8743251

See

>>8741416
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>>8741474
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>>8742155

/jp/ logic is, anyone who's not depressed and suicidal like me is a normalfag. At least learn the fucking term before spouting it.

If your posting in /jp/ anyway your not a normalfag, no normalfag would post in this shithole.

>>8743247
The couple people I talk to are like that too, but it makes me feel guilty, like I'm forcing the burden of making conversation on to them. I try to bring up stuff when I'm comfortable, but that's not as often as I'd like.

I've largely gotten over my fear of talking to people, but I still have trouble transitioning from "talking" to "being friends".

>>8743269
Judging by the repeat "normie" and typing style, I'm guessing it's the same two people or so shitposting.

As I said, I can hardly find anyone "seriously" using "normalfag" to describe anything but. Besides, I would say it takes a substantial degree of unhappiness to be a normalfag; for why else would a person so desperately seek the approval of those around them if they were content with life?

At any rate, I don't understand why you're getting your panties in a bunch. /jp/ is for taking it easy.

>>8743158

>You are already a normalfag by wanting to be one.

No that doesn't make you a normalfag, it just makes you ridiculously stupid for wanting something like that. /jp/'s can't be normalfags no matter how hard they try.

I'm engaged, I guess that's kinda normal. I wasn't ever on the dean's list in college, and i'm just "ok" with teaching. I just wish I could actually talk to someone about the things I like. my fiance doesn't give a rat's ass about I do in my free time, and the freshman I teach are all pieces of shit.

>>8743287

How are you engaged to someone like that?

>>8743299
Normalfags gonna normal. That shit is the DEFINITION of normalfag.

>>8743299
I love her to death, and she says nice things to me. that's pretty much all I ask of her. also, her parents are loaded.

>>8743306

No kidding, it's like they get married only for the status of being married.

>>8743315
This. Normalfags are all superficial.

Well you know. Even when being normal you might not find happiness. Then you'll just got to deal with cruel world. Instead trying to close yourself from it in your delusional one.

Then you'll be poor, your friends die, you get heartbroken, be misunderstood, suffer of racism, get beaten up.

But such is life. And i wouldn't trade away not even piece of shit it gives to me.

>>8743323
If you want all of that shit, you can have it.

About all you'll get in return is the knowledge that you acted normal.

>>8743287
>my fiance doesn't give a rat's ass about I do in my free time
The whole post is clearly troll/shitposting, but I just wanted to say that that is one of the things that make me absolutely disgusted with the world of normals.
It's one of those cases, you know, where you realize that something you consider inconceivable is actually not uncommon, like if somebody told you they don't remember what they did one night, or that they haven't read a book in years.
I know (or I think I know) that's how relationships are nowadays, but I more or less refuse to acknowledge it. "She doesn't care about what I do in my free time"... that's not a world I would like to partake in.

>>8741246

Were more "normal"? What is your definition of normal? You mean the mindless sheep in this world, that live with lies and deceit? Fuck no.

I realized that there was no way I could possibly be normalfag and I don't know if my fellow /jp/ers realize that some of them will never as well, but I've come to terms with it. I know I'll never be financially successful, get a lover, or any other stupid shit like that, but you don't need that shit to be content with your life.

All I have to do is put up a fake appearance, take care of my hygiene and health and make sure I don't stand out too much, and no one will ever recognize me. This is how I go through Uni without any trouble, without any problems, so when I return home I can enjoy the peace and comfort my waifu will provide me.

Honestly /jp/, just give up, accept your lifestyle and be happy with your waifus. If you don't have one, indulge in your hobby. It's much better than deal with shit like this guy >>8743287

>>8743329
In my view it is better to live in world which is not delusional. Better to be awake and do stuff than dream forever.

Because when you finally die there will be nothing left for you to treasure.

>>8743341
When you die you're dead and unless you're particularly spiritual, it doesn't matter what you did.

>>8743341

Hah, implying we're delusional when you're deluding yourself thinking you have a better and happy life. Get out faggot. Normalfags are just as delusional as us thinking their lives are so swell and perfect.

>>8743338
>Uni
I'm not the kind of anon who likes to shout things like "No NEET? Filthy normal!!", but I find it strange that people who share some factors from my situation can go to a university. I guess my inability to study (or do anything productive) is an irregularity even for people "like me".
If I could work, even for a shit pay, maybe I could be happy the rest of the day.

>>8743348
That is why you must treasure every breath you take.
>>8743353
You could think it as choosing red or blue pill thing.

>>8743358

It's fucking easy to go to a Uni, probably easier to get a job. I was a total lazy ass faggot in highschool, and I still managed to get into a four year university despite my shitty ass grades. Granted I'm still young, so that might change when I get out of Uni.

On another note, how the hell do you NEETS even support yourselves? If you don't work, how do you pay for your electricity and internet bill? Where I live MERIKKA if you don't work then you are essentially on the street begging for cash.

I dont mind leading a delusional life in my fantasy world as long as I'm happy.
I mean without delusions I'd already be dead
Even if I was normal I'd delude myself into all kind of things, for example could I follow a religion

>>8743367
Parents.

>>8743367
I live with my parents like most NEETs. Sure it's looked down upon in America, but the truth is, I think America's obsession with individualism is downright stupid. It's natural for family to stick together, but all throughout high school all I ever heard was "I can't wait to get away from here and go to college", as if life magically gets better when you're by yourself. Of course lets not forget that the majority of these kids live "on their own" off of their parents dime anyway.

I do the same shit these kids do, but without the pretense.

>>8743385
>>8743392

I thought that would be the case, but I don't think that's true for all NEETs though. Shit sucks for me then if my future is being a NEET.

My parents kicked me out and practically disowned me.

>>8743242
You are Kyon.

I have completely lost all interest in the external world. The only thing I have left is my mind and it is the greatest tool that I can have.

Want a friend or a girlfriend? Make a tulpa.
Want to go on an adventure or do anything you could ever imagine? Lucid dream.

There is nothing for you outside. Whatever normal people have is just a poor substitute for what they could have had if they took the time to understand their mind. Relationships with other humans are inherently inferior to a relationship with your subconscious and reality, with its rules and limitations, is inferior to lucid dreaming in every imaginable way.

Don't go outside. Don't even think about anything that occurs outside. As far as you should be concerned those people don't even exist. Everything you need is inside of your head.

Complete delusion is the only path to a life of endless bliss.

>>8743413

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWcTk0YBvkU

Read the statement at 1:22 and tell me one more time that the outside world is completely useless.

>>8743348
In this case, it seems logical that the only meaningful choice is to be particularly spiritual. Unless you just don't want that sort of thing, which is fine. Some would rather just become fertilizer when they die, and there's nothing wrong with that. But if you want something more than nothing, then you can only become "delusional." Which, by the way, is a really ridiculous way of putting it, considering nothing about these "delusions" were ever proven wrong.

>>8743441

>So then, how?

...

>>8743447

The one right after that you stupid faggot. You can't go directly to 1:23 because it'll skip to 1:25 and you'll miss it, at least, that's what it does on my player. Stupid YouTube and its inability to be accurate.

>>8743450
Not that guy, but you could have just not been a faggot and quoted the phrase you were trying to get him to read.
Just saying.

>>8743441
i don't even want to try and understand the context behind that video...

>>8743441
>that symbol

>>8743413
Get your head out of the dirt already, man!

Just follow your style and don't worry about the crap that goes on outside. There's nothing wrong with holding your head up high in pride of pursuing what you want, so you don't have to shut yourself up in your mind like that.

>>8743457

But then people would have asked who I was quoting.

>>8743413
I agree with you completely, Anon.

>>8743439
Because it is pretty hard to catch an idea. But i think it was pretty nicely put in one novel. That god would exists but everything in universe would be part of god. And system of universe a god itself.

So to say, god doesn't exist as separate being which you couldn't even call a god in any case. Well, if you aren't into monotheism. But Shinto would practically support the theory.

>>8743335
>>8743338

What about me then? ( >>8741498 )

Am I a normal fag now? I sure don't think my life is so swell and perfect. I'm basically satisfied with it, but I would be just as satisfied if not more being alone. The thing is, now that I've gotten this deep into a relationship, I've developed an emotional dependency on my wife, as if she's a family member. Therefore, I can't just "break up with her", nor do I really feel like I want to. What I want to do, I think, is go back in time and prevent myself from ever having met her. There's a part of me that hates myself for saying that and makes me feel like I'm a horrible person, but still, I love 2D more than anything and I'd prefer, if I could choose any life, to still be living alone.

I still want to belong here, but what does /jp/ think?

ITT, people to buttfrustrated with my autistic talent to understand the deeper meaning in the video I posted.

Do I REALLY have to explain it in a condescending way for people to get it?

>>8743478
you could be 100% right. i would rather live a life of pain and despair than take your advice and live happily.

>>8743441
Do you mean "Imagination is only as creative as your perception"?

In other words, I think the point is that each human has their own imagination and this makes them interesting? If you stick to yourself, you're much more limited, or something of that sort?

I personally do believe something of that sort, but that doesn't mean I want to go out and talk to them. Sometimes, I'm fine with just listening to the stories they have to tell, but I don't really want anything more than that, as it would be a pain.

Also who are you quoting?

>>8743478
fag

>>8743477
Enjoy your life and be happy.
Honestly , ignore the guys who tell you to leave or call you a "normalfag", if you enjoy /jp/ stay, its not important if you have a wife or if you like only 2D.People who tell you you should leave are the same people who cant be happy for others.

Guys, don't become normalfags, it sucks. ;_;

>>8743323
>>8743341

So basically what you're saying is that it's better to live a life of endless suffering and sadness because it's 'real' than to just live a happy life of delusion and fantasy?

What's so great about this reality thing anyway? If I have a dream and I can touch, taste, smell, hear, and see things just as vividly as if I was awake then what about reality is superior to that dream? Everyone is so fixated on this idea of living a 'real' life, as if that actually matters, that they're willing to live a life that's basically torture and this is somehow desirable and a life well spent because it was real.

What in the world am I reading? It's even more insane than I am. You should do what makes you happy, whether that means living in fantasy or reality is irrelevant, but getting hung up on what you see as the worthlessness of delusion is just silly when the life you live in reality has no more meaning or value than a life spent inside of your mind. Can't you see that none of this matters at all? There is no inherent value to a life spent in reality. The only thing you can try to do is be as happy as possible with the time that you do have while you're still alive, even if that requires living in a world of delusion and fantasy.

>>8743498
My problem isn't with /jp/ers telling me to get out, this is an Anonymous image board so none of that matters.

What bothers me is that, from as far back as I can remember, I always thought the exact same thing as >>8743335. I never wanted a relationship unless that meant I could have a perfect understanding with my partner, and I started to realize over time that that is impossible because of the separation between human minds. That's why I like 2D. But the thing is that now I'm in a relationship just like the ones I once thought were inconceivable, and I don't want to get out of it, despite the fact that it goes against what I've always thought and still think to be my own beliefs. It's that contradiction that bothers me.

For those of you faggots who actually watched the video, let me spell it out for you:

The Stussy was floating in empty space all by itself with nothing but the stars to entertain it. With the stars all looking the same from a distance and repeating endlessly, the only thing the Stussy could do was repeat the patterns it saw and duplicate itself endlessly. Cirno, being an ice fairy who defeated countless enemies, was able to easily defeat the Stussy because of its limited imagination.

There is nothing wrong with sitting in a room all day staring into a computer monitor and lying in bed daydreaming your life away. If that's the life you want to live, nobody is going to stop you. However, to delude yourself into thinking that you have a "good" imagination by restricting your physical self is proposterous. Your imagination is limited by your personal experiences combined with your perception.

>>8743511

In a perfect world, you would be correct. The problem is that if you do nothing but live a life of paradise inside your mind and refuse to work, SOMEBODY is going to have to live in reality for you and give you money to survive. Until the monetary system collapses or commit suicide, you're stuck dealing with the realities of reality.

I don't want to be at all normal, I like my solitary lifestyle. I wish I wasn't completely socially crippled though. It sucks knowing I have no other option than killing myself once I can't leech off my parents any longer.

>>8743526
So I was basically right then.

Well, I do see the value in the imagination of others.

The thing is though, that as you can see in this topic, many of them have such a limited imagination. Just look at those people who are saying that we should cling to reality for the sole reason that this is what we can observe, and who are so convinced that nothing other than that reality exists. It's truly so narrow-minded that it is a sight to behold.

>>8743511
But none of that is real. It is like being a heroin addict.

>There is no inherent value to a life spent in reality.

Now this is a good one. You pretty much must make it up for yourself. But neither there is value for life spent in delusion.
For most it is to get rich and famous. Sure. Why not. It is good if you can do great things. But that doesn't mean your life couldn't be just as good as theirs or as meaningful in the end.

>>8743242

I tried to do all that stuff, but it all ended miserably and made me want to be a shut in forever. I think maybe I was just born not a "normalfag" and tried to be one my whole life to no avail.

I think my life should personally be grounded in reality because I personally think I should have to earn the things I want. I'm playing the game and I want to see this through to the end without gaming the system (my own mental machinery).

Or maybe I'm just scared of retreating into my own head.

You live however you want yourself, though. Sky's not even the limit.

You assholes are just as superficial as "normals." You're trying to fit into a stereotype of a hopeless loser in an attempt to seem cool to anonymous people on the internet. You are pathetic. You shouldn't give a shit, not a single shit about anything. This post shouldn't even phase you, because you don't care.

>>8743529
My personal opinion about this is.
People should stop searching for the perfect girl/boy.
I am engaged too, and my biggest hobby are games, but my girlfriend doesn't even knows how to download a torrent file or anything about games.But that's no problem for me, if I want to talk with someone about games I can always go on steam or 4chan.I would say you should stay with your future wife together, remember if she loves you and takes care of you when you need and listens to your problems, its dam worth to stay with her together.Its not important if you don't share many hobby's together.Whats important is you found someone who takes care of you.When you feel sad or sick, there is no 2D girl who can hold you and talk with you or help you out.I hope you could understand what I did mean.Don't be afraid of the future and don't be afraid that trough your life you change your view about what you like and what not.

>>8743559
Not the Anon you were arguing with, but I just have to butt in.

>But none of that is real.
That doesn't matter, the person you're arguing with is stating that it doesn't matter whether something is real or not. So your statement has no meaning.

>But neither there is value for life spent in delusion.
If it gives one pleasure, then there is value in it. The whole point of the discussion is that one can derive more pleasure, and thus more value, from a delusional life than one can from living in reality.

>>8743562
This isn't about fitting into /jp/ you fuckwit, read the thread.

>>8743559
"But none of that is real."
You have limited yourself to the world right in front of your eyes, and thrown away all of your imagination and dreams, because you happen to think it's cool. Okay. Have fun with that.

And by the way, when did anyone ever get the idea that dreams are inherently not real? When you're actually in a dream, they seem perfectly real. And in fact, your only reason for thinking that it might not be real is "the world of my dreams does not follow the laws and common sense of the world I'm in when I'm awake." Which is only natural, because they are two different worlds. Why would they follow the same rules in the first place?

Now you tell me, between dreams and 'reality', which is actually real? Are you a human or a butterfly? You cannot know.

You assume you know, but that is merely you being incredibly narrow-minded.

>>8743546

Despite my broad imagination, I view myself more of a perspectivist. My understanding the perspectives of others, I can widen my own imagination. What you call "narrow-minded", I call "sheltered." It's not their fault that that was the way they were raised. The more sheltered somebody is in a certain subject, the more shocking the revelation has to be in order to sway the person's opinion. Not everybody has the ability to lucid dream or astral project.

>>8743559

You need to understand that the people who choose to spend their lives in delusion/imagination only do so because reality is undesirable. To some, it is painful to live in reality due to multiple reasons: Unable to live your life to its fullest, knowing "too much" about how the world works and how you know that no matter what you do, it is next to impossible to live your dream, not being able to accomplish what you want in reality, etc.

>>8743562

Shh

No tears

Only dreams now

>>8743563

Who is the being that dictates when you have officially "earned" something? Yourself? Your boss? Your parents? Do you need to do a certain amount of something before your moral code will accept the "reward"?

>>8743526

>The problem is that if you do nothing but live a life of paradise inside your mind and refuse to work, SOMEBODY is going to have to live in reality for you and give you money to survive.

That's true, but fortunately it doesn't take much to survive.

All you need to survive and nurture your mind is a studio apartment, food, a computer, and enough to pay for whatever expenses and bills you may have. As you said though, your imagination is limited by your experiences and perception, but the most efficient way to expand your mind and introduce yourself to new ideas is to use the internet.

Personally I feel that the ideal life is spent working for the absolute minimum amount of time required to sustain your existence and then spend the rest of your time consumed in delusion and fantasies. Most people stay in reality for 16 hours and sleep for 8, but you can just as easily flip that around. Work for around 8 hours and then live in your dreams or delusions for the remaining 16 hours.

>>8743582

>>8743526
I don't need to meet or talk with normalfags to improve my imagination nor do I want to use anything from the shitty world and people I left behind in my own little dream.

There is nothing of value to learn from interaction with them besides unpleasant things.

>>8743598

If it wasn't for those normalfags, you wouldn't have the shelter you are currently residing in, the food you are eating, the computer you are browsing on, the bed you are sleeping on, etc.

I'm not saying to go into a bar and socialize with niggers and their slutty white whores. I'm saying that going out of your room once or twice a week to take a walk around the block for a half an hour would do a lot to clear your mind and refresh your imagination.

>>8743569
Of course it has meaning, for crying out loud.

>it doesn't matter whether something is real or not.

It is like saying if day was night. Nothing matters if it isn't real. It is all in your head.

>If it gives one pleasure, then there is value in it.

Sure, i would pump myself full of heroin if i could. But isn't there something weird in that? Like nothing to be proud of?

>>8743607
"Like nothing to be proud of?"

And that's it right there.

There is absolutely no reward for a normalfag other than pride.

And what good is pride? Can that alone really make you happy?

Good day to you, KoG. How is that depression coming along?

>>8743618
Not just pride. But all things behind it, from where you could feel it.

>>8743607
And here you see a perfect example of someone who cannot conceive of any way of looking at the world other than their own.

>>8743627
I'm afraid I cannot figure out what you mean here. All things behind what? From where you feel what?

Why is this thread still going? Everything has been resolved already. You faggots keep repeating like a broken record.

>>8743642
>Why is this thread still going?
Because the janitor doesn't do his job.

>>8743646

>>8743607
> Nothing matters if it isn't real. It is all in your head.
Nothing matters if it IS real, either.

>>8743611
I do that occasionally.

>>8743640
He means things like.
You help someone in need and you feel proud about it and happy that you helped someone.Or finishing university to make your parents proud and to show them respect that it was worth to rise you up.

anyway you guys should stop arguing about peoples life's.If someone enjoys his life and he isn't damaging others.Let him live and be happy.Forcing different opinions on others is never good.Accepting how others life without insulting them is much better.

>>8743669
Sure, live and let live.
Only applies if that person isn't a normalfag though.

Ugh, I'm tired. Time for sleep.

I wonder which lead-in dream of Cirno I'll have tonight...

>>8743607

>Nothing matters if it isn't real. It is all in your head.

Why does this matter? None of your real world achievements matter either. You've deluded yourself into believing that things that you have worked for and accomplished in reality have some kind of meaning to them, but they really don't. Normal people live in delusion just as much as we do, only in a different way.

Life has no meaning or purpose. You live and then you eventually die, but if you want to then you can try to be as happy as possible along the way. Happiness is the only thing that has any real value, it makes no difference if you get that happiness from heroin, dreams, hallucinations, or reality.

Any sense of pride that you might require is just the result of deluding yourself into believing that happiness needs to be earned through hard labor and suffering, which is coincidentally exactly what someone would want you to believe if they wanted you to waste your entire life working for them and chasing after meaningless material things.

Sure, you could work real hard and achieve many things in reality, but would any of it actually matter? At the end of your life you will just have realized that you spent the majority of your life suffering and working hard to grasp at the few scraps of happiness that reality has to offer. There's no meaning to it. You might as well just live completely in fantasy and delusion, it's easier to feel happy there. Both fantasy and reality is equally meaningless, so why bother with the hard one?

>>8743640
Pride. From doing thing that you thought was right or good.

normalfaggotry
There is so much more into that. Every wound you take reminds you of being alive. Every mistake you do. You learn from it. etc

>>8743681
I posted a comment on your page with your games and you didn't reply

This thread made me peaceful. Thank you /jp/ ;_;

>>8743683
Exactly, it's pride. You don't really get much more than that from it.

But to be honest, you sound like you came out of a shounen anime, and that makes it a little hard to take you seriously.

>>8743685
You sound deluded. But well, let's say you are physically in reality. From that you are part of it. No true escape except becoming a vegetable.
Happiness is important. Common happiness even maybe more. And those few scraps. Those were blasted real. Those make you appreciate your life's joy and misery.

agreed

>>8743727
>You sound deluded.
Finally, you've grasped what he's been saying for half an hour straight.

no.
i do not like people.

>>8743727
> You sound deluded.
Oh no! Now his arguments are completely defeated!

> No true escape except becoming a vegetable.
Or ignoring reality and focusing on a fictional world in your imagination.

> Common happiness even maybe more.
Why would common happiness be more important than your own happiness?

> And those few scraps. Those were blasted real.
> Those make you appreciate your life's joy and misery.
Not nearly as much as living in fantasy.

>>8743746
But he got good dilemmas. Abstract questions that are hard to answer to and so, idiotically thought to be true.

Like; "Does god exist?" "what is meaning of life?" "what is true happiness?" "Does sun orbit the earth?"

Someday i hope i come up with fine copy paste to answer those all.

>>8743756
That was more like opinion that should cover whole picture.

That doesn't necessarily stop feeling your fat.

Well what you think psycho?

Well if you don't know nothing else.

I think i have won the game.

>>8743683
>>8743727

>Every wound you take reminds you of being alive. Every mistake you do. You learn from it. etc
>Those were blasted real. Those make you appreciate your life's joy and misery.
>misery

I'm genuinely confused by this strange sense of masochism that you seem to have. Why do you keep mentioning suffering and pain as if it's a desirable feeling and somehow one of the pleasures of reality?

You act like happiness needs to be wrestled and beaten from life or it has no value, as if life is some kind of sadistic gladiator match and you're only rewarded with happiness once you've been appropriately brutalized and wounded. You keep mentioning the value of 'real' happiness and associating the level of 'realness' with the quality of the happiness, but this makes no sense to me.

Happiness is happiness. Whether or not this happiness was attained by forcing yourself through some trial of misery and pain is irrelevant, it's all the same feeling.

Life doesn't have to be as combative and grueling as you make it out to be. Happiness has no cost and it can just as easily be experienced to the same degree within dreams and delusions, but without all of the misery and battle wounds that keep mentioning.

>>8743772
When I read that, here's what I'm seeing:

"I'm just so proud of how narrow-minded I am that I'm going to look down on all of you who actually have imagination."

The sheer arrogance of what you said... Wow.

>>8742243
I have to agree. In the last year what I did was have a daily activity to do, in a science lab, working on some project. Being forced daily to interact with people- and they're not the common trash, they're like postdocs and PhD students, so they're smart people, but all it does is send me into bouts of self-induced misery.
Usually after the many points where I need to talk to one of them, and just don't ever muster the confidence. Even if it's about something completely mundane and ordinary like "need a new B29 1neck RB flask".

The things that hurt the most is when they're talking about loved ones, and then they gesture at me and say something like "I bet you've had your fair share, eh?" And I just laugh along and reply "yeah".

Anyway, to get the main point, it feels like I'm in the wrong world for someone with no ambition and complete lack of social skills. Well that and it's hard work so I have a lot less time to distract myself from my own misery.

I am normal OP.
I'm 19 have friends, a job and a social life. Just because I browse /jp/ sometimes doesn't mean I'm a useless piece of shit like the shitposters.
Being normal is great and healthy.

>>8741492
Risa-chan's cuteness is a miracle.

>>8743777
Yup

>>8743775
>Masochism
You are so right about that. I really feel like it. But there is absolutely no other way to get up after getting down. And happiness kinda has to be wrestled out. An endless gladiator match. But once you get your reward it is darn good. Though it must not be like this for everyone. As they get their reward from handshake. But hell they know of achieving anything.

>>8743789

>doesn't mean I'm a useless piece of shit

Why do you care about being useful? When I hear someone say the word useful they're usually referring to something like a wrench or a hammer.

Humans aren't tools that are either useful or useless and to define yourself as one just dehumanizes yourself. Your worth as a human being isn't based upon how useful you are. No one is better than anyone else, regardless of the life they choose to live.

>>8743775
Beyond that, I'd like to point out that one can obtain happiness by being satisfied with what you have.

Under no circumstances is masochism necessary. If you want to live in the real world and be happy, you either need to be rich or cut off your desires.

But even then, there is no reason to act like everything that we haven't observed are just delusions. You have no guarantee of this, but I guess it makes you feel more in control.

Even though, in the first place, you're just listening to stories regardless. "Everyone believes X, so it's definitely true." Whether X is 'no one has ever witnessed something supernatural' or 'the supernatural exists' it doesn't matter, because you can't verify it, so you're just sticking to the one that feels more comfortable for you.

Otherwise, it might be frightening, since we're just mere humans right? And on top of that, because so many people engage in this faggotry, you get the added bonus of being part of the crowd. At that point, all manner of circle-jerking becomes possible.

Since when did humans becomes so arrogant and foolish anyway? When did we get the idiotic idea that this world is supposed to belong to us? It's unbelievable.

http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html
Paul Graham might slightly be kind of a dick in real life, but his essays are mostly valid and sometimes very inspiring aside from some of his deceptive startup-masturbation essays

A refutes B's point of view because, to him, pleasure needs some external negative force in order to balance it and give it meaning. However, B cannot understand why A would choose to experience negative emotions rather than simply being happy all the time.

Because A needs this negativity in order to perceive pleasure, his pleasure needs to be derived from an external source, "reality". ("Reality" being defined as the collection of our best guesses about the world around us, based on observable phenomena. This is what most normal people assume to be "real".) Even though A may logically understand that there is no way to completely prove that reality is "real", he feels that it is real in his head, and thus it is the only thing that can provide "real" pleasure. A's pleasure comes from accomplishments within this reality. In order to enjoy these accomplishments, he must also go through the negative aspects of reality. If A won the lottery, he would probably put most of the money in savings or donate it to charity, and continue working because he "needs something to give his life meaning." This act, which he would probably be proud of, would make him more content with his life than he was before.

[2/3]

Okay /jp/, here's my best shot for now.

This is what I see happening here. We have two viewpoints, A and B. Both seem to agree that there is no absolute "meaning of life", and that the main objective of living should be the pursuit of pleasure and happiness. However, they cannot agree with each other over the issue of whether it is better to seek satisfaction in reality, or to indulge in delusion. I believe that this disagreement stems from a fundamental difference in the way that each viewpoint perceives "pleasure."

A perceives pleasure as relative. Without some kind of negative emotion to offset pleasure, pleasure itself becomes meaningless to him.

B, on the other hand, perceives pleasure as an absolute. He can experience pleasure constantly without the need for any negative emotions to put the pleasure into perspective.

[1/3]

However, since B has no need for negativity to balance out hapiness, he is content to remain inside his own world, his pleasure being derived internally. Like A, he understands that there is no way to prove "reality", but unlike A, he also feels this emotionally. Therefore, B's life revolves around minimizing the amount of pain that he feels, and maximizing pleasure. If B won the lottery, he would quit work and indulge, and probably be more content with his life than he was before.

Both A and B are valid viewpoints. In order to reconcile with each other, they must understand that each of them perceive pleasure in a different way, meaning that what may be an incredibly satisfactory life for one may be a living hell for the other.

Personally, I am of the B type, and I suspect most /jp/ers are too. However, I understand that most people in the normal world are of the A type, and I respect that without those people, our species would have died off long ago.

[3/3]

Thanks for reading
Please respond

>>8743917
>>8743920
>>8743921
you did a good thing

Are you even fucking trying, /jp/?

Do you even know what it's like to communicate with another human being.

And here I thought I was a loser.
I bet you're the biggest fucking fagget of them all.

If anybody wants to come to a FAR BETTER board, just stop by /tg/.

>>8743921
And there's me, who is basically a B with the additional ability to believe that these "delusions" are real.

Even though I'm hardly normal I often go outside and wander around towns and explore unknown areas while I should be at uni.
Most of the time I try to ignore humans while doing so.
Funny enough I was really cheerful and friendly to everyone on the first day at uni where we played games to get to know each other better and I even took the job of the teamleader.
I can be social and normal if I want to

The day after this people tried to approach me but I just couldn't keep this lie alive and ended up not giving a damn and eventually forgot about all of them.

Pic related, my favourite touhou.
I often imaginate that I wander around with her

>>8743921
I'm mostly B, though some external sources can give me happiness too.

>>8744523
>I often go outside and wander around towns and explore unknown areas while I should be at uni.

I used to do this, but the region I live now is fucking ugly, it drained me of the motivation to do this. I used to imaginate my favorite touhou wandering with me too.

>>8744540
Well I often drive around in trains and busses to drive to other towns.
It will take many years to explore my whole state so I'll be fine for a while

>>8744523
I like you, Anon. You're an interesting person. Tell me your stories.

>>8744548
Well I could post some pictures I have taken on my travels.
I have thought about this today and I wish I would have a Koishi plushie with me at all times so I could take pictures with her like in that fumofumo thread.

Anyways, /jp/ is not my blog

>>8744554
Post pictures.

/r9k/ shit

My own cocoon and endless pleasure. My safe haven.

>Do you ever wish, that you were more normal /jp/?

No. The opposite in fact.

>>8744592
You don't want to be normal, seriously.

I'd wager that 80 to 90 percent of all social interaction is just two or more parties bullshitting each other until someone gets what they want. Why anyone would want to be willfully manipulated and used by other people I can not understand, since I've been living that life for close to three decades and it's awful.

I can give the illusion of being normal. I can talk to people and generally get along with them, and I enjoy some "normal" things, having a drink, going out to dinner, going to see entertainment etc. But the majority of the time I just don't understand them. I don't know why they want the things they want, why they care about the things they care about and I end up feeling more isolated than I did before.

Having said that, to get to this point was surprising for me. When I was 15 I had therapists visiting my house because I was too scared to leave.

>>8743917
>>8743920
>>8743921

Interesting premise and conclusion, although the manner in which you reach it is flawed. Merely from a different view on whether pleasure is derived purely positively or whether from the contrast between positive and negative, wouldn't necessarily imply that a person would indulge internally any more than externally or vice versa.

If person A happens to be of the type that is more internal, then they could very well fashion their own inner world that has its own drama of interplay between positive and negative (perhaps the real world is much too positive or too negative for their liking). Conversely, person B, if they found the external world quite positive and devoid of negativity, then they would given their temperament indulge in that, only indulging internally if the presence negative of the real world threatens to impinge on the positive.

Also, consider the factors unaccounted for if one chooses to indulge in either the inner or outer world. If B, given his temperament for seeking positive without the negative, were to indulge in his fantasy world wholly, then his external reality would suffer as a consequence (viz. the forgoing of real life responsibilities). In fact, this situation would probably favor A more, since this would provide A the necessary interplay between positive and negative (his internal world vs. his external world, respectively).

Given that B realizes he cannot fully indulge in his fantasy without incurring a negative (real-life responsibilities neglected), B, given his temperament, would rationally decide to better his real-life circumstances in order to reduce its misery according to that precept--if B cannot truly stand the negative.

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>>8744624


The difference between indulging in the internal or external would be B's determination. B, with his neglected real-life responsibilities, since he cannot stand this negative, thinks that if he believes this external shell isn't miserable, then it mustn't be. He would only withdraw into his internal world anyway if he really was that miserable outside. Whereas B that wants to actually change this misery and achieve their paradise would actively apply themselves in the real world to eliminate their misery.

On that note, perhaps person B, if they really were devoted to achieving the utopia of B, could perhaps temporarily assume a transient A-personality, in order to better banish the negative from their life.

The thing is, B's delusion isn't really sustainable because, as I suspect, most of us who are still capable of conversing on this imageboard are likely sane enough to still recognize reality as it is, and consequently, recognize this misery and fail at our aims at B.

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>>8744615
I have to share your sentiments a fair bit, since I'm not a neet, and infact I perform fairly well in my science course. Problem is recently as part of the course I've had to work pretty hard all day every day, which reduced the amount of time I spend on ignoring my own misery and lonelyness. And because of that, 10 or so years of misery and lonelyness hit me all at once.
I think, anyway.
There's no way I could tell them, because I just think they would not comprehend it. "Why don't you just go talk to someone?"
People in the normal world I don't think will understand.
For example, I would not be able to admit that I spend the last 5 hours wallowing in my own misery with my head between two pillows, because it's pathetic, and embarassing.
I think I like to believe that I lie upon a thin line of cruelty between two worlds at the moment; the one without hope that I was in previously and was perfectly happy in, and the world of actually interacting socially with people, sharing intimacy with other people, and generally having a life with other people.
I'm handsome enough that I could step into the world of social interaction and do fine, but only /jp/ would understand why this is the single most difficult step to make.
And stepping back in the world of the hopeless is difficult, because I'm constantly reminded of how people who are perhaps even more pathetic than myself finding companionship of a desireably variety.
Anyway, I apologise to anyone who actually read this.

>>8744631
I stayed on that line through high school and a good part of college. I was never very happy and could never achieve any meaningful relationships. After giving up on the normal world, I have been much happier. You just need to realize that despite what the world would have you believe, your life can be meaningful without having a wife and family. There are plenty of other things you can life for and in the end, if you are happy, that is all that really matters.

>>8744631

>apologise
>s

Britfag confirmed.

>>8744722
Wow you should become a detective or something!

>>8744722
Thanks.

>>8744668
The highly appealing nature of some of the stories I hear does not help. But then again, they are from people who are significantly less socially retarded than I am.

My goal in life has pretty much sunk to becoming a functional alcoholic.

>>8744574
I wouldn't call it like that.
I would actually like to get rid of the people who just cant be happy for others or if someone enjoys something different he is a " normalfag".No more 3DPD and no more "stop living inside your dream go out she is 2D "

/jp/ would be a much better place if people would accept that we all have different opinions what we like or what makes our life happy and stop forcing our opinions on others.

I dont like 2D and I cant even remember if I did watch any anime in the last few years except for some miyazaki movies.But I kind of respect the guys who truly love only 2D girls , at least I dont see them spaming 3DPD and they dont do any damage towards me if they love only 2D, its mostly the guys who cant love 2D and feel cheated with 3D girls that they have to spam the bullshit.Or guys who are happy to have a normal life and try to tell people its the only way to live happy like that.

>>8744876
You need to leave.

>>8744882
Cant leave all my haters alone.

>>8744893

we give you an inch to have you idol boards and yet you take a mile to infect other threads. Stay in your pen please.

>>8744876
Thank you for being so kind, anon. I legitimately believe this place needs as much love for each other as possible. Moreso than any other board, because we are [arguably] the most saddest, dejected group of individuals on 4chan. Only the unloved hate, and judging by the overall atmosphere of this board, many are unloved.

So let's be kind and respect each other, okay?

>>8744911
More like /jp/ is a bunch of drama queen faggots who blow everything out proportion and then create shit threads like this.

>Do you ever wish, that you were more normal /jp/?
If I was normal, I'd be an utterly different person. Probably nothing like I am currently. My entire outlook on life would have to change, I'd have to feel a desire to get a job and go to school and all that, and genuinely feel like this was important and something I wanted to do with my life - a mindset that is and always has been entirely alien to me. I'd also have to regularly leave my apartment, interact with normal people, and not just find it mildly tiring. I'd have to care about an entirely different set of things to what I've cared about and wanted to do my entire life. My instinctive reaction to seeing other people would have to change from what it is right now (go the other way, move out of sight, etc.) I probably wouldn't even have the same hobbies, and I sure as HELL wouldn't be on /jp/ right now. I don't even know what I'd look like if I was normal.

Reported for British people posting.

>>8744987
More like i samefagged it up and now you're sucking my cock dude respond quoting

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>>8744911
>So let's be kind and respect each other, okay?
Indeed!
Make sure to give your fellow Anon-kun a smile and a hug from time to time, he sometimes feels a little lonely!

If you make sure to give the world a smile it may one day smile back at you!

>>8745022
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>>8745046
If only i could hug you over the internet. one day when technology is advanced enough im going to hug everyone on /jp/ all the time

>>8745107
You sound like a disgusting landwhale. No thanks.

If you want to be normal and social, why don't you just go out and do it? I seriously don't understand this.

I have to make an effort to avoid people and be unsociable. In general, people try to communicate with you and if you're quiet and unsociable it just makes them try harder to involve you. It takes quite a while before it sinks in that you genuinely don't want anything to do with them.

>>8745115
It's one thing that normals don't understand.
You do your thing out of choice, but we push people away though our own social retardation and awkwardness.
When we ignore people and don't really talk to them it's interpreted as that we don't like them, so they stop trying after a while.

>>8744523
I like to wander a lot too! I also use a lot of city communication and I already managed to get lost few times when I was younger but I have no idea about my social skills and other things. My biggest hope is to have a lot places to see in Gensokyo.

>>8745115
I agree. I'm actually not socially retarded or anything, I just go home after my business is done and chill with /jp/ and play games or watch anime. Why would I want to do anything else? As for "being something in life", I learn just fine from the internet. Piracy is the miracle of the universe.

>>8745529
What will you do when piracy/the internet goes to shit thanks to shitty laws?

>>8745799
They're called VPNs.
Piracy is impossible to kill now.
Even if every single country in the world had the same draconian laws as iran when it came to file sharing and internet, we could still pirate. Tor would be good for small files and information, but other anonymous networks more suited to large files would pop up all over the fucking place, and piracy would live on, just being impossible to stop.
And all other illegal activities would also be impossible to stop. Law enforcement would grind to a halt.

>>8745799
Not the same person, but as long as humans and general purpose computation exists, it cannot be prevented. You'll have an easier time destroying all electronics on Earth than preventing that.
In practice, people will turn to darknets more, if things actually do get bad, but so far they've only been widely used in Japan (PD/Share/etc) and of course by those seeking more privacy.

>>8745805
If all else fails, there's always sneakernet.

Why haven't you established connections with your local back-alley eroge dealer yet, /jp/?

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>>8741246
I don't wish to be more normal. I don't usually think of myself as not normal.
I do wish I could have a normal job where I could interact with people more. I don't necessarily know if its more companionship or anything like that that I need. I just want to interact with mankind, and feel more useful than how I am now.
Feels OP pic, man.

>>8741443
Someone tried this on me once. They reeked of pity and condescension. They only really try to pull off shit like that to show each other how good-hearted and well-intended they are. Like the hot chick and her token fat friend, parading her around to show people she likes people for more than just good looks.

>>8749532
Are you fat by any chance?

>>8749544
I'm slightly underweight.