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I'm still looking for sources other than 4chan confirming that this works before I commit to it.

Think I can manage without intentionally attempting to produce a peanut-sized crystal cavern in my brain, thank you very much.

>tulpa

Isn't it just an imaginary friend for schizoids?

>>8647506
why dont you try it anon? the worst that can happen is you get trolled. which is what wont happen.

I've been working on a tulpa for about a week now. I recommend listening to white noise with the lights off when you meditate. You can enter your dream world much more easily. The way to interact with your tulpa at first, the way I see it, is to slip into a trance. It's kind of like lucid dreaming. You know that you're not in the real world, but it feels real.

Jesus Fuck, this is creepy.

tulpa wants to kill me

>>8647512
100 hours is several VNs. I don't want to waste my time if it turns out the process doesn't work for an otherwise sane person.

Oh, yeah, and my tulpa at first was hard to see. I'd always catch glimpses of it, and they felt really sketchy. It was like it was always trying to run, just out of my site. I couldn't look directly at it. With time, though, she began to get more of a shape. I can now almost see her in a trance state.

>>8647530
anon, you are here on /jp/ youre not sane anymore, why not take it to the next level and actually be happier?

Don't mess around with tulpas man, sometimes they turn evil...

Hey OP, what do you think about sigils? Do you know how to make them?

>>8647525
Please stop posting my homu summoning her persona image

>>8647550
sure i know, but i dont use them because i dont think they actually work.

I rather stick to lucid dreams where I can actually have sex with my lolis

>>8647510
I'm schozo and the only people I talk to is myself. This tulpa business sounds scary.

>>8647581
theres no need to be scared of yourself.

I wish I could do this, but I feel like I'm in a constant state of lethargy. Thinking is difficult...
How do you muster up the energy to do this?
How would I even begin?

>>8647581
How so?

>>8647595
you begin by reading the guides, silly~
if you'd like, come to our irc chat. its on irc.rizon.net #tulpa

>>8647595
It's fine I was under the same cloud many moons ago but ever since I made one life has been better

Wasn't this a trolling joke after the inception movie?
I am maybe wrong but , I think I read this somewhere

>>8647613
It's not a joke, but it obviously does not work.

Why can't everyone just stick with lucid dreams?

>>8647613
no, they are perfectly plausible constructs of your mind.

>>8647613
No, it's not.
Think "imaginary friend at the next level".

i should create a trap one. can't wait to suck his cock.

>>8647622
why do you believe in lucid dreams and not on tulpas? they are perfectly explained by psichology

>>8647626
How does it differ from an imaginary friend?

>>8647622
>>8647621
but the whole tulpa concept would make a very interesting movie.

>>8647633
Because with an imaginary friend you have to actively feed them responses.
A tulpa puts its own words in its own "mouth".
Along with other reported benefits.

>>8647629
Jesus christ, lucid dreams and tulpa are two different things.

A lucid dream is when you are being aware that you are dreaming.

Tulpa is not.

18:55 < thatmanisaman> unhealthy in what way
18:55 < tablecat> Skepticism is a weak philosophy
18:55 < thatmanisaman> unhealthy in what way
18:55 < Graywolf> Say what, Dylen?
18:55 < tablecat> ``everything is to be doubted"
18:55 <@Irish_> Xen0m0rpH: >trolled softly
18:55 <@FAQ_man> See? Why did you guys have to open the flood gate for newbs? You know I fucking hate them.
18:55 < Dylen> what's your tulpa going to be/
18:55 < thatmanisaman> unhealthy
18:55 < thatmanisaman> in
18:55 < thatmanisaman> what
18:56 < thatmanisaman> way
18:56 <@Irish_> FAQ_man: deal with it nerd
18:56 -!- mode/#tulpa [-o Irish_] by FAQ_man

>>8647633
didnt you read the next level part? its basically an imaginary friend that has a mind of its own.

>>8647589
>>8647598
Feeding off my energy like a parasite isn't something I want.

>>8647641
True, but with anything Hollywood, they'd have to spiffy it up and make it more interesting. This would result in a lot of misunderstandings for those looking to get into it.

>>8647652
Try walking around or standing instead of lying down. Just walking around downtown or in the woods with no aims in mind is a great form of meditation.

>>8647601
I'm way too autistic to talk on IRC.
And I read the guide, but I'm terrible at meditating. I end up falling asleep, not remembering anything.

>>8647605
Thanks Anon, that gives me some motivation.

>>8647650
if you see it as a parasite, then you clearly are not cut out for this.

>>8647650
But it isn't feeding off of your energy, the tiredness from the creation process is more like being mentally tired from intense focus.
After they're up and running they only need attention for sustenance.

>>8647652
you dont need to meditate, instead of imagining about your dbz fights, or self inserting into your animes, imagine yourself talking to your tulpa, seeing as people in /jp/ have great potential, in a few weeks you'll get actual responses from it.

>>8647647
I could easy imagine a story about a guy who is working at some shitty job and has no friends.1 day he finds something on the internet about tulpas and starts doing it for fun , until he managed to create a tulpa.

Then he would start to enjoy hes new life with hes tulpa , until he meets a real girl and start having interest on the real girl.

Like a love Triangle, Real Girl , Guy, Tulpa

and slowly the tulpa is fading away the more time he spends with hew new real girlfriend.


meh sorry for bad english, but I think the movie would work, I would just need some popular actors

>>8647667
how are you supposed to imagine it? seeing the tulpa in front of you and thinking of any words to say while it sits motionless and stares at your dick? seeing the conversation in your mind, with it talking? seeing it from a 2nd or 3rd person perspective?

>>8647562
Teach me your ways. I've only had accidental lucid dreams. I can't stop swallowing saliva whenever I try.

>>8647678
if you read the guides you would have known, but i'll be a nice person and help you~
You first imagine a nice place to chill (commonly called the wonderland), then you imagine it doing anything in it. You also talk to it about normal day to day stuff, like what you are doing, what do you think of something, read a book to it, etc. Remember to not make up answers for it.

well, now I'm sitting in a half-lotus. I hope you're fucking happy with yourself, OP.

>>8647708
if it helps you get a tulpa, then yes.

>>8647680
Pick your method, I would suggest DILD.
It's the easiest method if you don't have good dream recall.

>>8647673
where's the tension and climax though? it wouldn't work as a movie without that.

just having it fade away and then the end sounds boring. make the tulpa fight for the protagonist's affection indirectly. make the girlfriend notice the guy's behavior, and eventually threaten to send the guy to a mental hospital. have the tulpa start suggesting the hero to leave, then harm, then kill his girlfriend, going all psychotic obsessive over the guy as his attention to the tulpa slowly starts to slip.

have it bring the hero close to a mental breakdown, and eventually at the end to make a decision.

either listen to the tulpa, kill the girlfriend and become a fugitive, just him and his tulpa or listen to the girlfriend and begin a long therapy where he tries to ignore the tulpa who gets increasingly violent to get his attention, trying to show him crazy images, even as far as to torture him for attention. the hero eventually manages to put the tulpa away and make it disappear, and then you'd see him recovering with his girlfriend.

then right before the credits start to roll, the tulpa manifests in the corner of his eye and he gets freaked out, turns his head in that direction, fade to black.

>>8647487
omg this is like giving a gun to /a/non

>>8647726
nothing wrong with people killing themselves, the world has enough people already. and if you're on /a/, you're not going to amount to anything anyways. so whats to lose?

>>8647716
Yeah something like that just without the horror elements or killing more like a Romantic drama with happy and sad moments.I mean the tulpa would try to fight for hes love and in the end he would have to pick the tulpa or the real girl.

>>8647758
i wanted to make the tulpa a yandere though.

>>8647487
so you create a woman in your mind, and you will fuck yourself as a woman? omg isnt that GAY? why I would like to rape myself? sorry guys but I bet that this can explain why there are so many faggots in the world.

>>8647715
I remember this picture. Well, I didn't believe that methods like DILD worked, but if you say it does...

I always tried WILD with no success so I'll give it a try, thanks.

>>8647758
I just like romantic tragedy/drama.
Hollywood would portray it only as the guy being insane and the tulpa being a villain, with some elements of killing or violence worked in, though.

>>8647805
WILD is probably the hardest method, if DILD does not work out for you, try MILD.

WILD always scares the shit out of me because I get sleep paralysis everytime.

>>8647806
>>8647780

I would make it a 10 episode drama

The first episode could be about the guys life and how lonely he is and depressed and at 1 very awful day he is thinking to jump from a building but in the last second a hes tulpa became real inside hes mind and stopped him from jumping and that would be the first episode in short.

Second episode could be more about the tulpa and her character and next episode would be the tulpa and main actor having fun and he is starting to enjoy hes life. later he would meet a nice cute co worker

>implying I am not going to to Fuji TV and sell them the script and hire Shida Mirai to act the tulpa

>>8647862
be sure to pitch the title as mea tulpa

>>8647877
not bad or "The girl inside my mind" but its too long maybe , should be a short name to remember easy

Maybe this is a stupid question.
But for the people who managed to create one (or for the people who are still in the process of doing so), do you imagine her/him in 2D or in 3D form?
Because this is /jp/, I'd say that more people would try to imagine them as cute 2D characters, but wouldn't this be very difficult?
You know, imagining a 2D character in a completely 3D world.

And wouldn't your subconscious just transform them into 3D later on because it's more realistic and known to you?

I'm sorry for these kind of questions, but I'm highly interested.

>>8647946
In response to your question:
[17:51] <Pronas> mine is 2d
[17:51] <Pronas> and it works
[17:51] <@FAQ_man> It'd be difficult but not impossible if you have a strong imagination.
[17:51] <@FAQ_man> Your mind will constantly want it to be in 3d
[17:51] <@FAQ_man> and you'll have to keep reverting it until your mind accepts the habit
[17:51] <@FAQ_man> plus if your wonderland (if you have one) is anime like
[17:52] <@FAQ_man> then it won't be an issue until you go to impose it
[17:52] <@FAQ_man> in which case your mind is already so used to the 2d
[17:52] <@FAQ_man> that it won't try to change it
[17:52] <@FAQ_man> note that this is a theory

Meditated for 40 mins to white noise, got a feeling like needles across body, and had to stop for a bit. Now my right tricep is contracting spasmatically.

Fuck.

>>8648049
Enjoy your night terrors tonight.

Bullshit goes in /x/.

>>8647819
I will, thanks bro.

So, Tulpa is other word for waifu, right?
Why inventing a bicycle?

Because I want to chat it over with my psychiatrist and therapist first. I want to know what people with experience in this area think.

Because my mind is a mess and the result would most likely be horrifying.

>>8647819
>>8647805
>>8647715
My method was WILD without even knowing the actual term for it for a long time. I didn't realize there were other methods for a lucid dream(or that term either, for that matter), I just knew that when I fell asleep this way, I could control my dreams.

Anyway, the sleep paralysis scared the shit out of me for the longest time, but somehow I knew I was onto something when I started to make it occur on command, so eventually I just got used to it.

Likewise I was totally oblivious to this tulpa thing until this thread, but I'm willing to try it.

>>8648412
I've been working on the WILD method for awhile now, maybe a month or so. I have no problems with staying still and keeping away the urge to itch myself or swallow the saliva build-up. The main problem is actually getting into the dream in the rare occasion that I end up in sleep paralysis.

My tulpa is still faceless and it feels hollow.

To those who have Tulpas: Did you have an interest in Tibetan Buddhism beforehand i.e. meditation, mandalas etc.? If not do you feel that you do now?

>>8650217
I find Tibetan Buddhism interesting, but I haven't studied it all that closely. I'm going to pick up some more books on it today, I'm thinking, but having a tulpa isn't going to make me adopt a new religion.

>>8650211
The FAQ in the OP mentioned that the face is one of the last things that will be achieved, so I don't think you should worry.

>>8647629
>psichology
Yeah, okay.

I'm going to call bullshit on this /x/ crap, until I see some peer-reviewed material. Because /x/ is the WORST board on 4chan. Perhaps its uselessness is eclipsed by /r/, but at least /r/ doesn't spread bullshit and superstitious fear-mongering non-science.
Next, you're going to be telling us that we ttly shudent do demen sommoning ritule, guiz yull go cracy!

>>8651869
eh, at least this still makes a little sense (kids do that all the time with their imaginary friends, i bet at least some of them don't have total control over those), it's probably some sort of self suggestion combined with a mild self imposed did lookalike.

now demons, that's pure bullshit.

>>8651869
/cgl/ is the worst by far nigga

My tulpa is Patchy and she mostly just grunts at me and sometimes makes sarcastic remarks, and while I may have picked a rather antisocial character to use as a base form I also didn't put as much time and effort into creating her as I probably should have.

So what exactly is this? A guide to developing something like a multiple personality "disorder"? A mental construct similar to one's own stream of conscious thought/imagination? What puzzles me most is if you would have access to the inner thought processes that go in this new mental construct... I tend to keep my mind very open with myself (I try not to keep any secrets from myself, and avoid fliching from thoughts, even if disturbing) and am very reflective. Making such a mental construct seems like it would be making a black box inside my mind, which is ... strange, unless of course I would completely understand that mental construct... It also makes me wonder if such a construct could have subjective experience different from mine, but if that were possible, wouldn't that make it close some dissociative personality disorder?