/jp/ - Otaku Culture

If you're white = Racism
If you're black = Double racism

What if I'm French..?

>>8634619
What If I'm handsome and cute as fuck? I thought they like cute things.

>>8634624 What if I'm French..?
On s'en fout.

It's snowing like mad in Tokyo right now.

I have some Asian ancestry, but its so far back that I don't look Asian at all, still expect racism?

>>8634619

Nah, its not heavy racism.

Like yeah, people will be like "lol dude wtf, its some white guy" especially if you're just some tourist, but the japanese people are really nice.

So long as you don't do something stupid they should at least treat you with some consideration.

But expect store clerks and ticket ushers and such to think you're just some stupid fucking foreigner.

By which I mean they'll automatically assume you can't speak japanese, if you try to order off a menu, they'll try to jesture for you to "point" at what you want, and instead of telling you the price of something, they'll type it into a calculator and show you -_-

If you simply show with a quick word exchange that you can speak Japanese it makes things easier, though.

>>8634640

They don't like Asian foreigners.

>>8634660
>think you're just some stupid fucking foreigner
And why do you think that? Because EVERYONE in japan thinks that regardless if they are store clerks or not.

>some consideration
Key word here is some.

>-_-
That was not necessary. I knew the feeling you were conveying without the need of some gaia level emote

>>8634689

BAWW I ACT LIKE A NIGGER AROUND NIPS DEY BE RACISS!

>>8634689
XDXDXDXD THATPOST SO FUNNY

LOL OMG XD

>>8634697
Never been to japan. But I know enough about them that they will always and forever will be racist and think lowly of anyone and anything who is not of pure japanese blood and a born and raised japanese citizen.

>>8634707

then act like Hideo. Oh man, they'll be pissed.

>>8634707

This guy hasn't been to Japan but he's read a thing or two in his time on the internet (which is considerable, lemme tell you), so you better listen to what he has to say.

I was thinking of making a trip to japan here in the future myself.

Think I should learn some Japanese before going? And if so how much?

Do you speak Japanese?

If yes try not to talk to salespeople, they'll talk your ear off.
The ones behind the counters are okay, you might have a 1 minute conversation but seeing as you're already buying shit they won't bother buttering you up.

If no expect everyone to be really awkward around you, some people take this as racism but I find they're just trying their hardest to find a way to communicate with you... Most Japanese suck at this in my experience. My host mother would rather just change the topic than try to explain a word I didn't know. NOT VERY HELPFUL.

Once I spoke english to a girl at '7&iholdings' (7/11) on accident and she just froze. I asked one of my Japanese classmates about it and he said she was probably trying her hardest to remember the english she was taught in elementary school and freaking out because she'd forgotten most of it.
I experienced very little racism as a tall white male. Only note worthy thing was that even though I'm considered 'skinny' in my own country and am of the perfect weight for someone of my age and height I was considered fat by the Japanese, some students made a game out of pinching anywhere I had a little bit of pudge, it really pissed me off but they apologised once they realised it actually bothered me.

>>8634723
Damn right you better listen to what I have to say. I have read thousands of reputable sites and articles and studied their culture and their society long enough to know they they do not give two shits about anyone but themselves. They make the french more welcoming than them.

>>8634707
>Never been to japan.

Then you're talking straight out of your ass.

>>8634731
How much more welcoming can you be than the frogs? They let hordes of mudslimes and outright niggers in, and the country's decay shows for it. An outright travesty, I say.

>>8634725
>some people take this as racism
Because it is.

>>8634731

This guy hasn't been to Japan but he's read a few Japan Times articles in between playing the many eroge which helped him develop a deep understanding for Japanese culture and society despite never having experienced said culture or society.

In other news, if you guys need any dental work done send me an email. I read a wikipedia article about teeth a while ago.

It's kind of like being a black person in a nice neighborhood. People will do an unconscious double-take when they see you, but it's not like you're a space alien or anything.
Japan's xenophobia/philia is overstated on the internet.

Nigger = Pimp
White = Get out of white pig
For Asian, just keep your mouth shout, nobody will know.
Also it is snowing like fuck now.
Also why are you visiting next month, just wait till May for Reitaisai. There is only some shitty vocaloid event next month.

>>8634748
I have read more than just a few articles. I have research thoroughly and extensively to know that the japs are nothing but nationalistic filled people who do not care about anything outside of their island.

>>8634755
>overstated on the internet.
No, it is quite perfectly stated.

>>8634743
Because if someone came up to you in your own country and started speaking a language you could barely understand you totally wouldn't be taken by surprise and have a hard time helping them out, right?

>>8634748
this made me laugh thx anon


anyway OP the most useful thing I can give you if this is your first time in Japan
Never use a taxi
Learn the God dam subway/train map
at night if you go out to a club/restaurant,bar be expected that some will ask you to pay for your seat.

>>8634748

It's funny how those shut-ins always go on about how racist Japan is, yet everyone who actually went to Japan keeps saying that they're nice people.

Guess what, you're sticking out in Japan. They can't smell how well you're accustomed to the local culture. Try to think for a moment how the opposite party feels.

You want a racist Asian country? Visit Corea. People there will scream at you if they see you with a Korean girl on the street.

>>8634766
No they arent nice people. They are only being "polite". There is a difference.

>>8634633
Really?
I heard snow was quite rare in february/march

>>8634766
North or South?

>>8634769

Of course, you know it better than people with experience. You are the expert, after all.

>>8634773
The japs arent nice people. They are racist. Anyone can see that

Expect Japan that's pretty much it.

This board will be able to help you out further >>>/trv/

なぜ　みなさん　きちがい？

>>8634778
from my personal experience they aren't
ofc there are a few retards , like in any other country

Why people who already had a experience in Japan say japanese people are nice, and those who hadn't keep saying they're racist?

>>8634787
Last time I was there was like almost ten years ago during a high school trip. I can confirm that the Japanese are all goody good.

>>8634787
Because they are trying to make it seem like japan is better that how it actually is.

>>8634784

Dude, he has read stuff about it. He knows it better than you.

>>8634794

Except for the police. They don't fuck around even with tourists and I got yelled at for jaywalking.

>>8634798
Damn right I am you little shit

Show of hands for people who don't trust niggers the first time they meet them.

What about a show of hands for people who are pissed off that they're country get's swamped with Mexicans and or Muslims who don't assimilate?

It's almost like being "racist" is perfectly warranted and natural.

>>8634762
Cherrypicking 'waito piggu go home' videos is not an accurate statement.
Nobody will give half a fuck about the OP after the initial two seconds of surprise wear off.

>>8634807
Whereas if he was an actual japanese they would welcome him with open arms

>>8634787
because they see a few bad news /videos and assume all Japanese are like this.

Its the same how some people think all americans are fat and cant live without a gun next to their bed

Is there racism outside Tokyo?
I mean in those small cities with few gaijins

>>8634823
Yes

>>8634823
Do you really think anyone on /jp/ has experience with this kind of stuff?

>>8634823
not racism , but I could never imagine to live in Tokyo, I like Osaka much more they people are more friendly.

also when you take a subway sometimes you will notice older people are afraid to sit next to you, dont think instantly they are racist its just some are afraid you will ask them something in english and they cant answer/help you

Some might be racist, some might not be, at the end of the day you aren't likely to get WHITE PIGU GO HOMU. Regardless of their personal feelings who gives a fuck? As long as they're polite.

In any case, statistically someone's bound to genuinely like you, I'm sure.

>>8634849
No matter how well accustomed you are and how fluent you are. even if someone thinks of you as their "friend" they will always ALWAYS consider you an outsider. you will never be good enough for them. Never forget that

>>8634787
How do you classify nice?
No muggers on the train, people dont steal, people dont scam you, if you dropped your wallet or passport somewhere they would still be there on the next day and etc? A good example of this, when I bought these touhous, I also wanted to buy Eiki and Keine but the staff told me that they are actually not painted. If this was anywhere but Japan I would have only found out about it until I got home.
You will only feel the "racism" if you actually live here, they make it pretty hard for foreigners with all the red tape that you have to go through.

>>8634863

Yeah, I'll be certain to take your expert opinion to heart. I'm gonna start reading blogs by cultural marxists and niggers post haste to better understand Japan thanks to you.

>>8634881
Make sure to read news articles and read up on their history while your at it.

I visited Japan. My command of the language was limited to a few words and phrases. People were polite to me. Maybe deep in their secret hearts they thought I was disgusting, inferior Asian trash, but the Japanese never show their secret hearts to anybody, so I don't give a fuck.

>>8634863
I think it's the same in every country in the world.
You will always be an outside, you are born as japanese, not become one.
However you can treat someone as an outside and at the same time treat him nicely, they're different things.

>>8634863

It's pretty funny that most of the people who say things like this are expats who left their own country because they weren't loved and accepted enough there either.

As someone who has gone to Tokyo over the course of my life for family visits, here are some tips.

If you don't impede on anyone else life, they won't to you. It's more or less a mutual respect. Keep to yourself unless you NEED to bother others. People are willing to help. Japanese people are not as xenophobic as the internet says. Just don't be fucking obnoxious.

If you go to Akihabara, go to the backstreets, that is where you will find various doujin shops. Tora and Melon Books are on the main street. White canvas, Mandarake, and a lot of the ones which i don't know the names of are in the back streets.

Enjoy the arcades, it's a rare chance that you get to play someone you don't know then peer around the corner to see the guy who beat you. (Or vice versa)

In Tokyo, expect packed streets, use trains as your primary source of transportation, you will be getting a lot of looks, but that's because you look different, not because people have an underlying hate for you.

OP, more specific information would be nice. Where exactly are you going/ how many people are you going with? I might be able to suggest a few things which might be of itnerest

>>8634949
I feel sorry for them. Luckily I am excepted in my own country whereas in japan I am not a citizen or even a person in their eyes

>>8634963
>Japanese people are not as xenophobic
Yes they are

That's right, guy's jjokbari.... I mean Japanese people are horrible, you can trust me.

>>8635000
Go back to /int/, shemale thai.

>>8634963
Going with two friends, one who is going to school to be an English teacher in Japan. Going to be in the Tokyo area mainly, we plan on maybe going out of the city to check out some of the smaller times.
And we are going to be there for a month so, any places or spots you would recommend going?

>>8635031
Not the guy you're responding to, but I spent about 8 months in Japan over the last year. Are you going to be buying a JR rail pass (you can only do this on a tourist visa)? If you are, I'd recommend trying to use it as much as you can and traveling a lot, because you can save fucktons of money (domestic travel is wicked expensive) while still seeing a lot. Tokyo is definitely really exciting, but it's good to get out and see places that aren't so crowded. There's plenty of very cool places around Kyoto/Nara that are worlds apart from Tokyo, and in that area you can also see Osaka and even go down to Kyushu and Shikoku if you feel like it.

>>8635031
Roppongi Skydeck is somewhere you want to go to. Google it. It's a great photo opportunity to capture the beautiful city at nightime.

As I said, Akihabara is somewhere you really want to go to. Don't be afraid to
venture into small stairwells which are beside shops in the back streets. Most of these lead to small second store shops which sell erogae, figures, and sorts. If you;'re a tall person, watch out. Many stairwells are short.

Shibuya has the first ever kaiten sushi restaurant. (The sushi places which rotate around the restaurant on a conveyer belt). Pretty cheap prices, 113 yen/ plate, and it had good quality. I don't remember the exact street, but it's on the street past the scrambled crossing, in between the baskin robins and HMV. If you really want to be a brave man, go inside 109. See what obscure fashion is popular in Shibuya at the moment. It's not really relevant to otaku culture, but it is an interesting experience.

The station right beside Akihabara called Okachimachi has a few streets of side shop markets. Really nice to pick up odds and ends, some clothing, and some street vendor food.

Ramen shops are everywhere. Most of them are pretty good. However, I'm posting my favorite one. It's not too out of the way, it's one station down from Akihabara, and a 10 minute walk from the station. This place specializes in using heavy tonkotsu broth. Disregard the search term, I just needed to use that to find the store.
http://g.co/maps/nkwf2

Sorry for the vague bits and pieces of information, I'm quite tired. Feel free to shoot any questions.

I'm not op but does anyone know what are some good hotels in Tokyo?

>>8635162
http://www.hostels.com/hosteldetails.php/HostelNumber.13590

I stayed here for three nights. It's not too far from the Yamanote line (probably about 30 minutes or so to get to Akihabara for example) and the prices were reasonable. You get free wifi, the owner is nice if a little creepy (there are signs on the walls and shit that remind you how nice his hostel is...)

But, if you're looking for a hotel and not a hostel, I'm afraid I can't offer any advice.

>>8635162
http://kshouse.jp/tokyo-e/
3000yen/night hostel.

>>8635162
Go to booking.com and book the cheapest hotel you can find. If you are there with another person, a twin room will always be about the same price as some cheap run down hostel.

fucking spicard

>>8635172
Yeah I would never stay in a hostel. I'm not poor. And I could not masturbate properly.

I had to look up what a hostel was, but they sound scary.

>>8635275
Eh, it's a place to sleep, and most are just fine. I was a little worried at my first one, but after a while you realize that the only possible thing you might have to fear is other travelers stealing your things. Which honestly really isn't that likely.

I won't deny that a hotel is nicer, but often you'll end up paying an extra 30-40 a night, minimum for a hotel room.

>>8635284
But won't people, you know, talk to you and stuff?

>>8635291
Uh, no, not really. At the place I stayed, I was out all day until like 11 pm, when I crashed, woke up at 9 the next day, and did it again. People will only talk to you if you seem approachable/you hang out in the commons area. Even then it's not like everyone's just constantly socializing or something.

Wish I could live there just to escape this Judeo-Christian based society but I'd probably end up homeless then get deported.

>>8635377
I'm sure a nice Nigerian will adopt you as a pet before you get deported anon.

>>8634689
I've been living in japan for 5 and a half years, i'm swedish, and I don't see racism at all.

you americans see what you want to see.

>>8635291
so what if people talk to you?
it's nothing bad really.
nothing wrong happens when you meet new people

>>8635476
For one, Americans are used to Americans. Swedish people are relatively reserved and soft spoken compared to Americans until they start drinking. They are also less confrontational. Sweden is much like Japan in that aspect, and an American may find it rude or stand off-ish. Not arguing which is better or worse though.

>>8635490
but for example, some american friends complain that "look, that japanese girl was scared of me"
"she's racist!!!"

and after living here, I now know that yes, some japanese people are afraid of foreigners, but not because they hate foreigners.
They are afraid of being spoken to in english

another girl I met said she was a little scared of how tall foreigners are (she was kind of tiny really)

the only real racism I've seen, was from a 90-year old looking guy, he wasn't rude or anything, he just gave me the stink eye

If you're in somewhere like Tokyo and someone stares at you, I can't see why you should care, to them your just 'that white guy' or 'a foreigner'. In the largest city in the world you're not going to be seeing them again and they won't care anywhere near enough to remember you. It's very easy to ignore.
I've lived in both Bangkok and Beijing (prior to the Olympics) and never felt any racism towards me as a white person. And I'm sure in Beijing they've seen far fewer white people than in Tokyo.
My point is just enjoy doing everything you want to do, even if you do end up look stupidly out of place.

>>8635513
this
take off all your prejudice about japanese racism, and enjoy yourself.
try to meet japanese people if you can.
It's actually pretty easy to get a conversation going, they want to know where you're from and such, so that gives you some 30 minutes of talk... problem is getting to actually get a deeper relationship with someone

>>8635509

Westerners in general are so hypersensitive to "racism" that it's scary. Just about any exchange between another race is racism, if you acknowledge race exists then it's racism, if you have a disagreement with someone of another race then it's racism. And of course being a racist is worst that being a serial child rapist.

In all honesty, I thought Sweden would be far worse is this regard.

anyone who lives in the meguro area wants stuff?
I'm leaving so I'm trying to get rid of everything. II got a nice pc, and a nice table, chair...
got a wii, microwave, rice cooker, "hot pot" thingy, and 3 extra futons oh my god I hope someone takes them from my hand.

>>8635542
For free? I dont see why not.
I am like 3stations off Shibuya.

>>8635569
The futons are free for sure. But then I first want to try to sell everything else.

Anyways if I sell the stuff it will be for cheap, and you would need a car for the big stuff:
futons, desk, and chair.

microwave/oven, rice cooker, hot pot thingy, wii, wii fit...
those I would let go for like 20% of what they cost
nice desk, and a nice chair

free books, some for japanese, some for computer stuff...

if you want the futons, do you have a way to take them with you? they are huge, in my luggage I can only fit one piece, as in, one cover only, so you would have to make a few trips.

Also, I live kind of far from meguro station so a bus trip is also necessary (or walking for 15 minutes)

>>8634772
Note the guy you replied too but I did a year of teaching at an English school in South.

Some people would literally just stop and stare at you like you were an alien. Mostly the older generation though.

On a whole it's not that bad at all.

>>8635587
When are you leaving exactly where?
I stay somewhere around 35.633471,139.661702
I can probably cycle if it is less than 30mins away.
Do you have a LCD monitor? That is the only thing that I would actually want and I guess a spare futon would be good as well. Cant stuff the futon into a bag and carry it into the train?

>>8635612
futons are heavy... by bag do you mean like luggage for travel? then yes, you can fit it there, but as I said, probably only one part, and you would need to come back again for the other part.
I got 2 monitors, 22" and 26.6"

I want to sell the pc too, so I want to keep one of them to sell with the pc (people don't want a pc without the monitor)
the 22" one has a little scratch.

i'm leaving on the 9th, but I want to get rid of stuff already.

I live here
http://g.co/maps/pzs6h
I'm still throwing stuff away (clothes I don't use and stuff) so if you could come tomorrow and take a futon, it would be perfect, and then we can talk about the price of the monitors

my info: strombergman2@hotmail.com (I use messenger)
and my phone is 090-1729-1337

>>8635642
Ok cool. We can probably work something out for the monitor and I am only free to do any transaction or take the stuff off you during weekend.
I will shoot you a mail later tonight and please be gentle. This better not be some trap.

>>8635661
I'm not a trap, and weekend is ok too.

>>8635661
>baka gaijin found dead in a maid costume
>more news at 11

>>8635642

I delete my address and phone number caus eI don't feel comfortable leaving it out in the open in 4chan.

It's the "ugly american" reputation. Heck, even President Bush vomited on the Japanese prime minister at an official meeting. Instead of turning away in some different direction, he turned to the prime minister and barfed. Hoah!

>>8635712

Well it's readily available in the archive, I'm gonna call you so hard! You better be prepared!

>>8635712
you're a foolz

hahaha, get it? XDDD

>>8635712
Your blog is the most autistic thing I've ever seen: http://tokyomassage.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/why-reviews-massage-tokyo/

>>8637816

>The places I will visit are NOT sexual, just therapeutic or relaxing.

There goes my interest, fortunately I can go get a happy ending by driving to a place only 20 minutes away if I want.

>>8635642
Just ordered 50 pizzas to get sent to your house
Get owned nerd

The Japs have every right to not want disgusting foreigners in their country. Keep out.