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Hey /jp/,

Why in the world haven't you made a tulpa?

Are you telling me you don't want to have the girl of your dreams be your companion?

That's simply irrational!

>> No.8553699
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8553699

Here's some frequently asked questions about them.

>> No.8553720

By the way, a tulpa is basically an imaginary friend that you can see and talk to and will basically become it's own lifeform. It can be anything, from your favorite 2hu to a floating fish and so on.

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>>8553720
>imaginary friend

>> No.8553733

>>8553725
Yes, one you can see, touch, fuck, talk to etc.
It's quite simple, actually. It's a type of controlled schizophrenia.

>> No.8553745

/jp/ - delusional pseudo magicians and alchemists

>> No.8553750

>>8553733

Don't pay attention to that fucktard, he wouldn't understand since he only has senses for his 3dpd idols anyways.

I've always been interested in these kinds of things, like using erotic suggestion on myself with H audio clips. Go on, I'm fairly interested.

Have you made your own yet, OP?

>> No.8553752

I wish I didn't think this was bullshit.

>> No.8553753

>>8553745
Delusional, yes.
But there's nothing inherently wrong with that, all that matters is your happiness.

>> No.8553761

>>8553733
Does that actually work?

Sounds like a lot of bullshit
I don't want to waste my time just to be disappointed in the end

>> No.8553768

>>8553733
>touch
How?

>> No.8553773

>>8553761
No it doesn't. Unless you believe so much in this that you end up insane.

>> No.8553776

I've had a tulpa since feb last year.
I hardly ever talk to it anymore. All it does is make fun of me whenever I fuck up. And if I get something right, it disappears without saying anything.

>> No.8553790

>>8553752
It's not. Try it for yourself.

>>8553750
I created mine a month and a half or so ago, and so far it's going pretty well. It's a wierd experience, and I've only seen her fully in actual reality twice, which were both jarring experiences.
Right now, I can talk to her, and she gives me responses on her own. When I first started, I had to think of the responses myself, but not anymore.

>> No.8553796

Belief is one scary motherfucker.
If you can get yourself to actually believe that you're summoning a supernatural being, it's possible, but as long as you're aware it's just a mental trick, I doubt it.
Here's a sort of related article I read recently:
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/09/the-dark-side-of-the-placebo-effect-when-intense-b
elief-kills/245065/

>> No.8553806

>>8553790
I've put A LOT of time in it, though.
>>8553773
The tulpa doesn't actually exist, it's an imaginary friend that gets it ideas/wants/desires out of your subconscious mind. I don't see what's not to believe.
>>8553776
Elaborate? How was it at first, and didit change at some point?

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I dunno. Will she ask me for any rewards?

>> No.8553805

i'm scared of getting crazy

>> No.8553812

sounds too good to be true

I always wanted to have an imaginary person that would criticize me and make snarky remarks on my actions and thoughts.

I just think i'm gonna end up doing all the talk with myself

>> No.8553813

>>8553796
The idea with a Tulpa isn't that your summoning a supernatural being though, and shouldn't be looked at in that way. It's simply psychological.

>> No.8553818

You know, I think I kind of have this tulip thing already. It's a girl that's like my ideal of beauty, and she keeps helping me when I'm in a pinch, or when I'm lonely. Am I just schizophrenic or something?

>> No.8553820

As someone pretty prone to delusion and flights of fancy, I'm just not that crazy, OP.

I don't buy into this shit, and frankly find it too much like all that other SPOOKY GHOASTS shit. You're probably just making it up for attention anyway. This is why it's a bother when normals get something they can associate with us.

>> No.8553824

>>8553812
You'll be communicating with a product of your subconscious mind. I guess it depends on how you define talking to yourself, it won't FEEL like talking to yourself one bit.
Tulpas can be considered there own beings as well, so I wouldn't call it talking to yourself.
You start out creating them, but they very much have a will of their own.

>> No.8553823

>>8553812
Well that's the thing, have you ever gotten into arguments with yourself? It IS all you, but the thing is that you are projecting a personality as a certain object, its desirable traits are rooted in your subconscious and acts as a guide. It's an easier way to lead yourself to fulfillment by associating it with your imagination. It IS yourself, and you are talking to yourself, but that isn't to say it isn't worth it.

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>>8553818
schizophrenic

>> No.8553827

>>8553806
It all begun when I started my first job. I couldn't related to my co workers and I needed someone to keep me company. I didn't really "create" it, one day it was just there because I wanted her to be. I gave her the appearance of a character I'm a big fan of. I don't have a "wonderland". Sometimes I would just go to bed and she'd be sitting in the desk watching. She was pretty good at analyzing things objectively and anticipating everything I'd do, but she was always very negative and shot down all my fantasies and dreams as being unrealistic.

I haven't talked to her for some time now.

>> No.8553834

>>8553820
Again, the tulpa isn't REALLY there, it's a product of your brain. Not supernatural in the least and it can be boiled down to science fairly easily.
>>8553807
She survives on your attention and the amount of "energy" you give her, so she'll ask for those in return. Energy is just your emotional involvement with the tulpa, how much you interact with it, etc.

>> No.8553839

>>8553823
>>8553824

But they make it sound like it actually takes on physical form / delude yourself that you can see it

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did i accidentally into /x/?

>> No.8553862

>>8553839
You can imagine it, it's hard to explain, have you ever had conversations with people who aren't there but just in your head? People you've met before I mean. It's kind of like that.

>> No.8553874

>>8553827
Damn, that sounds harsh. I wish I could help. But I bet the anon who made the faq could, he gave out in an email in one of the threads, I'll put it in the email field.

>>8553839
You delude yourself yes, but is it any different than deluding yourself into having a waifu or caring about 2D girls in a VN? I don't think so.

>> No.8553876

>>8553807
Only love.

>> No.8553877

>>8553834
I dunno, it smacks of the same brand of bullshit as all the hypnoses shit. Sure there's the power of suggestion, and sure you can talk to yourself, but both have limits.

As someone with a waifu I spend a great deal of time imagining various interactions with a fictional being. But I can't see such an exchange happening lucidly.
Conversing with a figment of your imagination as though it's an actual person, and expecting legitimate responses as though you haven't thought them yourself?

Sounds a bit like a snakeoil pitch.
It's often said crazy people don't think they are crazy, and as such don't perceive the various things they do as crazy. Going with that, it would make sense for say a schizo to talk to something they think is real, but would not a relatively sane person dispel the illusion the second they notice it, knowing it to be what it is?

>> No.8553886

To be honest, I found this whole idea quite scary. It is, however, very interesting.

>> No.8553887

>>8553877
>and expecting legitimate responses as though you haven't thought them yourself?

this is my biggest concern
I just don't think that can possibly happen
I have too much control over my thoughts

>> No.8553889

Ehehehehehehehehhehehe

>> No.8553891

>>8553877
Well, having a tulpa is basically a controlled formof schizophrenia as I said earlier.
And you don't actually think of their thoughts yourself, they come of the subconscious part of the brain. A part of yourself where you have no control and no awareness of.

>> No.8553901

Oh that's what you call it. You mean not everyone has a tulpa?

>> No.8553906

>>8553887
You have control over your thoughts yes, but not your subconscious, where the Tulpas thoughts come from.
It's almost as if you are to creating a link so that you can speak directly to the subconscious part of the brain.

>> No.8553910

How is this different from entity creation magic? Is it the same?

>> No.8553911

>>8553906
Yeah but how do you create that link to your subconscious?

By talking to a imagined person in your dreamworld?
Why would that create a link to your subconscious?

I just doubt it,
nevertheless I will try
I didn't believe lucid dreaming that much either (although this tulpa thing seems more farfetched), but now I can pull it off occasionally

>> No.8553912

>>8553910
It's not magic in the least. Read the FAQ here:
>>8553699

>> No.8553915

>>8553910
The roots are similar, the practice is probably different

>> No.8553914

I suffer from a host of mental illnesses including wonderful joys like paranoid schizophrenia, manic depressive disorder, and something on the autism spectrum. All professionally diagnosed by two or more doctors.

What are the odds of me creating something batshit crazy or unpleasant?

>> No.8553919

>>8553914
I'm not OP nor an expert, but I'd say about 95%.
It's all up to you, though! If you have enough positive thoughts, I'm sure you can do it!

>> No.8553922

I've already done this and have communicated with her for many years now.

When talking it like her responses pop into my mind instantly. It is hard to describe. There is an entire world she lives in I explore. I probably spend an hour or so each day there.

>> No.8553925

>>8553911
I can't give you the specifics, sorry.
But, I just asked a much more experienced and learned tulpafag and am awaiting an answer,

>> No.8553930

>>8553922
I actually did this as part of my training in the Great White Brotherhood of the A.:A.:

>> No.8553938

>>8553922
What kind of things does she tell you?

>> No.8553948

This has piqued my interest, any recommendations for starting out creating one?

>> No.8553942

>>8553914
Enjoy being saddled with some twisted monstrosity that reminds you of unpleasant parts of your past until you're pushed to suicide.

>> No.8553944

>>8553930
>A∴A∴
Oh shit.

>> No.8553950

>>8553930
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU INSANE YOU'VE SAID TOO MUCH DELETE IT DELETE IT OH MY GOD

>> No.8553955

>>8553944
A warm 93 unto you.

>> No.8553961

Ah yes, this thread has attracted the higher level crazies now.

At least it might get interesting.

>> No.8553963

>>8553938
She more or less shows other perspectives I could have, or how to think differently. Often it is quite painful and displays my hypocritical nature. But it is still nice.

>> No.8553964

>>8553674

>Get it out of your head that a Tulpa can kill you, it's creepypasta bullshit, the most a Tulpa can do is mental hurt you, or fuck with you. It'll be like really fucked up hallucinations, but if you must make a failsafe, make one. [I'll put a link at the bottom]

>[I'll put a link at the bottom]

>still working on it

The Witch King of Angmar urges everyone to read the fine print.

>> No.8553969

>>8553948
Well, this thread is more of just spreading the word.
It'd be best to take any questions here:
>>>/x/9517007
As there are people better with Tulpas than I.

There's a very good tulpa community that just started at /x/, and this is probably the twentieth thread in a row we've gone through all the way to the bump limit.

>> No.8553975

Tulpas lol.

I did the Succubus summoning TWICE with no real success. Although, I could have made a mistake during the ritual.

I got some people to do the ritual and one of them got some success,

Lately, I've just been working on lucid dreaming.

I guess I can give tulpas a try.

>> No.8553978

>>8553969
Unless it leads somewhere I don't know what they hope to achieve.

Better off using Goetia. It can be incredibly fucking freaky.

>> No.8553979

>>8553969
Cool, thanks! I'll have to check that out.

>> No.8553980

I already have WILD's down. Is this the next frontier?

I could build a furious personification of all my ideals. Maybe that would motivate me to become a leader of a country or something.

>> No.8553982

>>8553978
It is leading somewhere, a ton of
people are getting help with their tulpas!

>> No.8553985

>>8553796
I conquered sleep paralysis too. The last time I was in it I tried to rip myself out without fear, and a bit of wiggling my fingers got me out once I stopped trying to brute force it.

>> No.8553986

Looks interesting, perhaps I'll give it a try.
VN's never have enough content anyways, I should atleast try to extend it

>> No.8553983

I'm actually afraid to try this because I've always had a fear of losing grip on reality and things like that.

I already have something kinda similar, I don't talk to it, but whenever I dream, I dream from its point of view, and sometimes I spend hours just thinking about what its like or how it would react in certain situations. At first I had just been thinking about my ideal self but after awhile the appearance, personality, etc. shifted. I also sort of relive past events but from its point of view, or when something happens I think about what it would do. It's not really an imaginary friend because it doesn't keep me company or anything. Well, I don't think it's a very strange thing to do, but it's feels weird to never have a dream where I'm myself.

>> No.8553989

>>8553980
There was an awesome kid in one of the tulpa threads who said he wanted to create a tulpa bruce lee to get him in shape.
You could pretty much create anything you wanted. Including a guy to help you rule the world.

>> No.8553994

>>8553983
It is scary, even for me now, after 5 years I worry about it. But I am fine, all things considered.

Honestly, we are talking about creating a very strong imaginary friend out of the subconscious. The fact any of us are even here means we are not quite tuned in to reality.

The most hectic things I experienced were with OTOA and Cult of the Black Snake. Bertiaux's gnostic voudon cults.

>> No.8553995

>>8553989
If it has access to my brainmeats, I wonder if I could make one to help with language studies. Brush up on Japanese, and maybe pick up Russian.

That ought to make people comfortable, some autist walking around looking angry and whispering urgently in Russian.

>> No.8553998

>>8553983
Well, I had that fear as well. The difference is in how you look at it. Insane people rarely realize their insane.

As long as you KNOW your tulpa is a tulpa and nothing more, you're sane.

It's only when you think that it is an actual person that's really there that you are schizophrenic.

>> No.8553999

>>8553983
So do I. I'm not the guy with the best mental health out there, I fear that something as a Tulpa will fuck me up good.

>> No.8554003

Tulpa secks here we go!

No but seriously, I'm afraid of conjuring up a tulpa of real people/people I've met. I want to create a tulpa of my own or at least one of my favorite 2D characters.

>> No.8554009

>>8554003
That's probably for the best. The further away from reality your tulpa is, the better.

>> No.8554010

>>8554003
How about you make a huge female amalgam in order to fuse her into your yume no shoujo?

>> No.8554016

>>8554003
You probably won't be able to control it enough to forcefully give it the shape of someone you know. Just use your waifu as a base or something and it'll gradually start to change as it grows.

>> No.8554017 [DELETED] 

Thanks OP, I'll think I'll go make a Tulpa Horsecock Futunari Succubus now...

>> No.8554021

If you daydream and talk with your waifu this isn't do dissimilar to be honest.

A sacrifice of semen helps to give them more solid power and form in your mind.

>> No.8554019

Not that he called it that, but somebody from here made one of his old stuffed animals into a tulpa, which shared his head with him and his waifu.

For a while I think I had a second ego running around in my head, it didn't really have a form, but a psychiatrist and I killed it.

>> No.8554027

>>8554009
So making one that is me wouldn't be ideal?

I think it'd be pretty neat to hang out with myself all the time. Bounce ideas off of myself, and maybe have a heated argument or two. Maybe on a particularly crazy day have a fight as to who's the real one.

>> No.8554023

>>8554009
That's what I mean, I'm afraid I might make a mistake somehow and end up creating a 3D person I know/met. Otherwise I would go for it.

>> No.8554024

>>8554021
Too*

>> No.8554031

>>8554029
How about you make a Christ tulpa them.

>> No.8554029

This is too far from my christian based beliefs for me to try.
I'll have to delve deeper into the use and meaning of tulpas in the Buddhist religions before committing.

>> No.8554036

>>8554029
Buddhism and Christianity are the same thing.

Jesus' willful crucifixion/death and ascension to heaven = the ego death of Buddhism and nirvana.

>> No.8554038

A playful and cute loli tulpa to keep me entretained!
Here I go~

>> No.8554043

>>8554029
I'm a Jehova's Wittness, and I don't really think that Buddhism has too much to do with tulpas. The way I imagine this is that it is more about tapping into the human mind than religion.

>> No.8554039

>>8554029
It's not like it hurts anyone. I can't see it being a sin in any way.

>> No.8554040

>>8554029
Just call it "praying to your guardian angel".

>> No.8554046

>>8554027
No, because:
1) the Tulpa won't end up looking exactly like you and that might be freaky
2) It'll create a personality disorder

>> No.8554053
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I've had one since January 17, 2008.
It's helped me a ton in my life to get a different perspective on things and have someone to talk to.
It got me to quit being a NEET 4 years ago and now i'm a semester from my BS in CS.
Never knew it had an actual characterization like "tulpa" until I saw this thread. It was just an imaginary friend who helps me out in my every day life and has fun with me.
I used to just lay around the house all day and worry about nothing, now I have a box full of nicknacks i've collected from every trip or great day my tulpa and I have had.

>> No.8554057

>>8554029
you could always have your tulpa be jesus or something

>> No.8554059

>>8554053
93

How do you know the date so exactly?

93
93/93

>> No.8554072

Funny, didn't know there was a word for this. I've been doing it for a couple of years now. She doesn't have a "tangible" form as such, but we sort of have conversations, and I meet her in dreams sometimes. In fact, we talked a bit in a lucid dream just last night. She convinced me not to drop out of college, and keeps me from feeling too lonely.

I'd recommend at least giving it a shot, it might help you out a lot.

>> No.8554080

Would it be dangerous to seed my Tulpa's creation using the concept of my little sister?

>> No.8554081

>>8554059
He obviously loves her.
And maybe he keeps a journal.
There's lotsa ways.
Besides, dates are a function of your subconscious mind... Something a tulpa has access to.

>> No.8554088

>>8554080
As I said before, semen sacrifice helps to give them power because of the value of semen to the subconscious.

The lust and love for your little sister will create the perfect Tulpa.

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>>8554059
Well I realized I was having a ton of fun with her a few months after we met, and thought my hardest back to the day I met her. I dug through some old receipts because I knew I had gone to the supermarket that day. I remembered I met her when I got home from the store and was over analyzing everything I did while out to the point of tears. I guess my tulpa appeared when I realized I needed help to even be able to talk to people without breaking down afterwards. Anyways, I found the receipt and marked the date on my calendar. We now have a celebration of sorts on January 17th. We usually go out and do something fun. Like this year we went out and hiked some waterfalls about 20 miles from home and then came home and made dinner. I grabbed a rock from the top of the falls and saved it for my nicknack box.

>> No.8554096

All of you have psychosis. How do you know I am not your Tulpa, talking to you right now. How do you know this post is 100% real

>> No.8554099

>>8554080
She can be LIKE a little sister to you I suppose, but you probably don't want to actually think of her AS your little sister. Other than that, you should be fine.

>> No.8554103

>>8554094
Aww

>> No.8554105

>>8554094
Have you ever had tulpa secks? Just curious.

>> No.8554118

>>8554099
>She can be LIKE a little sister to you I suppose, but you probably don't want to actually think of her AS your little sister. Other than that, you should be fine.

The thing is, the concept I have in mind already appears in my dreams and comforts me when I'm critically lonely.

Although curiously, she doesn't have a face, but nonetheless in my dream I'm sure it's my little sister.

>> No.8554128

>>8554118
Well alright, then expand that into your tulpa. If the framework is already there, it'll probably make an excellent one,

>> No.8554130

>>8554118
My Tulpa doesn't have a face either. For 5 years now I've never seen her face.

Creepy.

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>>8554105
Yeah, actually. To tell the expanded truth, I married her in August of '09. I'm sure 10 out of 10 psychiatrists would consider me some kind of insane, but I love her and have had a best friend since Jan '08. One could argue about the 'real-ness' of a Tulpa all day, but no one could argue that I haven't been 600% happier than ever before in the last 4 years.

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>>8554096
shhh dont spoil the fun, its getting interesting
they will soon believe they are normal

>> No.8554163

>>8554148
Go back to your 3dpd threads, faggot. No one here gives a shit about being normal.

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>>8554163
i am your tulpa dude
am I not kawaii enough anymore for you >:3

>> No.8554165

>>8554128
>Well alright, then expand that into your tulpa. If the framework is already there, it'll probably make an excellent one,

I hope so. It feels like whatever self-compassion I have has taken up residence in shadow-imouto's form, and it really feels like she loves me.

>> No.8554169

>>8554163
I'll have you know that people pay very strict attention to not being normal around here.

>> No.8554173

I've created something like this, a big sister that I say lives in my left eye so when I close just my right one she is free to manifest in any way she wants, although in times of dire need where I'd require support. It's really goddamn helpful and tomorrow I'm going to celebrate Valentine's day with her. Cooking a nice dinner and even if it just sits across from me and gets cold I don't give a fuck.

Yeah, I know and accept that she doesn't exist in physical form, however she exists for me and that's all I need.

>> No.8554184

For you people with Tulpas, how do you see them?
Do you see them as tangible, 'real', do they look like people, animals, anime girls or whatever, or are they more hard to describe?

>> No.8554217

>>8554184
I see mine as 2D in the 3D plane. Most of the interaction comes from dreams, which makes the lack of a dimension normal.

You will honestly see your Tulpas how you envisioned them. In example, if you chose to have a wolf tulpa, it will be in the shape of a wolf. 2D anime girl will be 2D, and 3D will be 3D. It could also form naturally and you don't choose the shape.

From the thread on /x/ it seems like you can change what your Tulpa looks like, but the effort to do so will amount to the effort required to make the Tulpa in the first place.

>> No.8554219

>>8554099

One thing is that my mental concept of my little sister is derived from our time together when we were little, and has very little to do with her adult self.

One of the sequels to Ender's Game, I think it was Children of the Mind? In it, Ender creates something very much like a Tulpa of his (idealized) sister Valentine, which is awkward when he finally meets his real sister again. Eventually he has to destroy it. I don't think there's any way I could possibly destroy a Tulpa of my little sister.

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>>8554184
Anime girl Tulpa here. It gets pretty real after a few months until you can't tell the difference between them and a real person any more. Early on they're just going to be a sprite of inspiration. Later on they start to change their hairstyle, get new clothes, and grow mentally based on new experiences. At least that's how it happened for me. My Tulpa is nothing like her anime counterpart. She used to just show up when I needed help, but now-a-days we sleep, eat, and go to school together. We spend nights out and watch movies together. It really becomes a 24/7 thing once you get used to it.

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After I read that tulpa creepypasta from /x/, I don't think I'll ever be able to try this without it trying to kill me.

>> No.8554240

I'll really take this seriously if it can help me boosting my danmaku skill.

>> No.8554245

>>8554240
Get a touhou tulpa to give you tips and tricks.

>> No.8554248

>>8554221
is it awkward when you fap?

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>>8554248
Why would you fap when you've become schizophrenic enough to have a beautiful woman around 24/7?

>> No.8554275

>>8554260
how can you fuck her without physical contact?

>> No.8554279

>>8554221
>>8554217
I see.
Let's I envision my Tulpa as Reimu. At first I would see her as Reimu normally is, but then she would eventually changing her appearance. But when that happened, she would still keep her "basic form', right?

What I'm curious is if, by evolution, your tulpa will radically change it's appearance(and personality, too)? Like, you create a Tulpa in the form of a kitten but it ends up looking like Cthulhu, or vice-versa

>> No.8554280

>>8554173
Can you describe her personality and whatnot?

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>>8554275
It's a new world I hope you may one day understand.

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>>8554279
I can't imagine such a drastic change happening. At the best of times and in my worst mental states my tulpa has remained the same person. All my tulpa's ever done in terms of self is get a few different hairstyles and new clothes. She's grown quite mature since we met.

>> No.8554309

So there IS a term for things like this? I've only had my tulpa for about a year, but she's helped me immensely. I had suffered a complete psychotic breakdown, and decided to drag out a girl I had seen in my dreams. She doesn't look quite the same, and we've had some bad experiences to the point I ended up creating another Tulpa with a much more defensive streak, but we've had some very fun times together as well, both the original and the defensive one

>> No.8554317

>>8554309
I thought I was the only one with more than one tulpa. I have one who lives with me, and tens of others who come over and visit from time to time.

>> No.8554322

>>8554279
According to the posters on /x/, it could change over time, but it seems like it would be in stages instead of kitten turning into Cthulhu over night.

Mine is still the same after several months, although her personality has changed a bit since her creation.

>> No.8554323

>>8554309
>we've had some bad experiences

Can you elaborate on that?

>> No.8554332

>>8554323
Very traumatic experiences. It's what got me to create her in the first place, to help me cope without heading off to Gensokyo.

>> No.8554335

>>8554323
Not him but my tulpa attacked me once in the middle of the night. She said she was trying to get me over my fear of the dark.
So yandere sometimes~
It actually worked. I can go to the bathroom without turning on every light in the house now

>> No.8554336

>>8554322
Yeah it figures it wouldn't happen overnight. But radical changes still can happen, right?

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8554337

>that feel when you've been doing this subconsciously for years

>that feel when people are now doing this at random

I dunno about you guys but I have a pair of wings that give me strengh in my time of need,

>> No.8554338

I feel that if I try to do this its gonna come out some creepy gore monster that talks about killing people

>> No.8554344

>>8554332
But were the traumatic experiences were with her/her cause or something else?
No need to tell me of your life, that's all I want to know.

>> No.8554345

>>8554336
Yes. You can also change the appearance yourself.

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8554348

I could have my very own KyuuKyuu-kun?

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>>8554338
Don't believe those naysayers. Your tulpa loves you and would never hurt you.

>> No.8554351

Do I imagine myself in the wonderland from a first person viewpoint or a third person viewpoint?

>> No.8554356

>>8554351
Why would you imagine yourself in 3rd person?
It wouldn't feel like you were there.

>> No.8554357

If I were to make a mental companion it would probably just be a cute little suicidal girl and then we'd BOTH have to deal with that headache.

>> No.8554373

>>8554351
Whichever is more comfortable for you, or makes it easier to shape the surroundings.
It's probably best to try first person first, it can be hard to visualise yourself properly third person and keep your focus on what you're doing.

>> No.8554376

>>8554280
Confidant and caring I guess, very different from how I usually act which is introverted and indifferent in social situations. I sometimes get this little tingle at the back of my head where she's telling me that I should speak up more or say something where I would just reply with a "I dunno"

Although there have been times where I've kind of gone with her and just closed my right eye and said things that I wouldn't normally say. The little eye ritual thing makes it easier for me to draw on things I wouldn't normally do.

Appearance wise, I've never seen a face (although that doesn't bother me) and I do know that she has long black hair. It's kind of what I envision when I have the moments when I want to be with her. It's kind of like one of those things where the hair and shading block all facial features.

>> No.8554391

>>8554344
External. Highly intense stress used to nearly kill her, and I ended up lashing out on occasion. She changed form and became far more melancholy, as did I. Around July, however, I started to feel better, and I was able to help her transform back into her original form, and she was able to split her other self off from her. The other self talks to me occasionally still, but it's mostly just her. Abilities and powers have changed, and I'd definitely say for the better.

>> No.8554393

I don't know, I have always wished for this sort of thing (I have been interested on "man falls in love with supernatural/fictional" stories being since forever) but I am not sure.

Regarding her getting into my memories I already had a problem remembering shit that I didn't want to remember years ago which I eventually solved, it still happens ocasionally but it is not a big deal anymore, will this still be an issue?

The other thing is that I am, lets say, too sexual and keep kinda ruining my affection for female characters that I hold dear, I fear this being an issue with the Tulpa too.

>> No.8554405

>>8554393
My Tulpa is like a real person, It only knows of memories I tell it about. As far as the affection goes, I don't have a clue. I think you're tulpa will grow on you past the point of simple affection that can be lost.

>> No.8554406

It's a shame I wouldn't be able to take it seriously enough, I've always wanted an imaginary friend. Guess I'll stick to the tens of years of solitude approach and hope it comes to me naturally.

>> No.8554413

>>8554391
I see.
Thanks for the answer.

>> No.8554440

I'm curious about this. I've been thinking of "getting" a tulpa for quite some time, but I'm fucking scared of messing it up, and that I may end mentally scarred.

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I have been debating on creating on for years now.

The biggest reason why I oppose is that I do not want to create an individual just to serve me. It sounds too selfish,

Also It would mean to say goodbye to your privaye toughts forever. She would also be able to see you during your most disgusting moments.

>> No.8554453

How did the Astral dream tea party /jp/ land turn out?

I think Brother PRINNY was organising this, no?

>> No.8554455

>>8554441
They don't have to serve you. You can create one just to have someone talking to you.

You're going to need to talk to it and pay attention, it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to have one to be a companion of sorts.

>>8554453
I was, but it died out. Can't even remember the account details for the page.

>> No.8554457

>>8554440
You will be fine. What do you have to lose anyway?

>> No.8554463

>>8554441
You can serve your tulpa just as it serves you. It will thrive on your attention. I don't know about other people here, but my tulpa only know of what I tell it. I still have my own thoughts all day. She will see you through your best and worst moments. It will develop a wonderful trust.

>> No.8554465

The first steps seem like too much work...
Can't I just skip to start imagining her everywhere?

>> No.8554478

>>8554465
Yes, but she may be homeless when you aren't giving her attention

>> No.8554481

>>8554465
I didn't know of this tulpa concept when I gained my imaginary friend years ago. I just imagined her everywhere and it worked great.

>>8554441
You'll be blown away by how separate your thoughts can become from your tulpa's. I play 20 questions with mine on the drive to work. That's a game that no sane person should be able to play alone.

>> No.8554490

>>8554457
Plenty. Or rather, not very much, but all things I value a lot.

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8554502

ok, you guys convinced me.
Looking forward to having baths and witty conversations with shinobu in the future.

>> No.8554513

>>8554440
It's cruel, but ultimately they're your creation. You can un-make them (the most commonly recommended visualisation being peeling them like an onion), if you have to.

>>8554465
It's possible, but I imagine it'd be harder to pull her into focus if you do.
Fleshing out a "Wonderland" is helpful as a warm-up for other thought-form/astral plane/self-hypnosis/word-of-choice-for-this-stuff activities though. You can use a similar technique to induce phantom transformations, for example, and be the little girl while you're in your head (Or a furry, or a hot air balloon, or a tree).

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>>8554502
If you stick with it I may have a competitor for happiest man alive.

>> No.8554509

>>8554502
Personally, I find it harder to imagine a character that already has existing personality traits. That's just because I don't like to turn them into OC.

>> No.8554516

For those of you who already have Tulpa, such as myself, how did they originally appear to you?

For me I used to do visual meditation a lot, I created a space to "go to" and one day she was there. But after all this time I still never see her face.

Before I said this has been going on for 5 years but seeing her as gone of for closer to 8-9 years now that I think about it.

>> No.8554546

>>8554516
Initially, I basically created her from scratch based on my "ideal" woman. I didn't have a really solid mental image of her until just recently, when I met her in a particularly vivid dream.

>> No.8554547

>>8554516
I'll add, going into this thinking you'll create a perfect 2D imaginary lover may have limited success. You might find lasting comfort and deep feelings of affection, I think in no time at all once you start "seeing" her it will turn into something more serious and meaningful than talking to an anime archetype. I don't want that to sound negative or disrespectful but it'll probably be the way it happens.

Has anybody ever tried that Japanese technique, I forget what it is called, but if you want mental scarring this will fucking do it to you. It feels like you are stereotypically haunted but you've basically set up a game of hide and seek with yourself. It's fucked up.

>> No.8554558

>>8554393
I might add that while I do not consider myself a Buddhist I have some experience with Buddishm and meditation, and I am generally pretty level-headed.

>> No.8554563

>>8554513
Well, I think I'm convinced. I'm gonna do it. I hope I'll never need to un-make it.

>> No.8554582

>>8554558
Your lust will sort itself out, you'll just have to try it and see.

The memory thing is a tricky one. Since you are already trying to avoid it, and are somewhat concerned about it, you might go there yourself.

I've found when visiting her parts of the landscape I should have no idea of remembering are there, and I remember them.

And now you all know who Diane from Twin Peaks really was.

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How do I talk to an imaginary person if I can't even talk with a real one?
I can't think of anything to say to her that might make the conversation more real.

>> No.8554601

How do you know it's a Tulpa?
It's not funny when you married her and have children then found she's a genie.

>> No.8554604

>>8554516
In a tough spot, needed some sort of affection but didn't want it from people and I wasn't worth it myself so I needed to externalize my affection for myself and direct it back in, I just added an extra step where it goes through another person and comes back as love.

>> No.8554621

>>8554601
On a related note, I once had far too much ayahuasca trying to find lovers in the spirit realm, long story short I lived what felt like 50 years of someone elses life and had a wife and kids. When it wore off I was in my room screaming covered in shit.

Fuck that drug.

>> No.8554627

>>8554516
I just felt like making one. The only difficult part was deciding what she would look like.

>> No.8554624

>How do I talk to an imaginary person if I can't even talk with a real one?

Is there a particular monomanic interest you have? For many of us here, it's probably anime or something related. Real-life people usually tune out or recoil, but using it as a topic with a forming Tulpa should work fine.

>> No.8554637

>>8554597
Just talk to her about the things that are upsetting you, and who you feel you are. She will love you.

>> No.8554675

>>8554624

Yeah, I think to myself all the time, but usually the thinking goes to fast to turn it into an actual conversation, if I try to slow it down it just feels like I'm acting.

>> No.8554685

this threads reeks of /a/ shit

>> No.8554693

>>8554685
You mean /x/, tryhard?

>> No.8554694

>>8554685
Keep trying, someday you will fit with the rest of /jp/.
I know you can do it, lowercase-kun!

>> No.8554701

>>8554685
It actually reeks more of an older /jp/.

>> No.8554759

My Tulpa is a female android the size of a mecha. I guess the wonderland we share is a mech bay of sorts where we shoot the shit and just chill out. I haven't seen her actually manifest in reality, but I've sworn I've seen her insignia in some places.

>> No.8554768

tulpa's a fun word to say
thanks op
tulpa tulpa tulpa

>> No.8554776

>>8554694
there is a lot more than one person using lowercase on /jp/. i seriously hope you're not stupid and delusional enough to be implying that guy is the only one.

>> No.8554787

>>8554768
Puffy tulpa.

>> No.8554800

>>8554768
Wasn't the Candyman a tulpa?

>> No.8554813

mea tulpa!

(sorry, just had to say that.)

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>>8554787


Oh, U!

>> No.8554884

For those with tulpas, did any of you guys draw a picture of what they looked like, or did you already have a person/character in mind? Or rather, how did you go about forming it?

>> No.8554888

Question.
I have a nice fantasy story in my head. In this setting there is one character. Let's mark him as character A. I really like him and made him a personality and looks, like if I'm getting ready to write a book. Colourful fantasies.
If I make a tulpa that is based on character A, will it be okay to continue using original A in my in- head-story? Or it will be unpleasant for him, or he will take his place in them and stuff?
TL;DR Should I make a whole new character to make a tulpa, or I can use existing fantasy as a base, but continue to use fantasy in daydreaming after tulpa takes form?

>> No.8554902

>>8554884
She appeared herself, I didn't do anything to create how she looked.

She wears a white dress, has blonde hair but I can't see her face. I have no idea why, when I try to look at her face I just can't.

>> No.8554911

>>8554888
I don't see any problems with it. Might want to ask the Tulpa itself though.

For the wonderland, I actually based a setting in the novel I'm working on for the wonderland. It's kind of depressing knowing how old that idea is though.

>> No.8554918

>>8554911
Kinda*

>> No.8554922

I already have.

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8554935

>tulpa
>imaginary friend

>having a "tulpa" is cool and awesome
>having an "imaginary friend" means you're a fucking fat lard loser

>> No.8554972

I'm making myself a male one. I don't want to get romance with non-physical, in the end the difference in bodies will sad. While having a bro is awesome.

>> No.8554996

>>8554685
you mean it reeks of /x/

fag

>> No.8555007

can a tulpa feed on hate aswell??

>> No.8555023

what is potentially better - a bro or a daughter/sister figure?

>> No.8555030

>>8555023
That seems like it would be subjective. Whatever you're comfortable and happy with.

>> No.8555099

You guys are all fucked. I see this posted on /x/ every time I go to check them out, and there are 100 tripfags who will tell you that tulpas are bad and should never be made. Leave it to /jp/ to be the guys who go and turn themselves schizo with black magic.

>> No.8555102

>>8555099
People around here could do a lot worse than being eaten by a fragment of their own souls.

>> No.8555124

>>8555099
>black magic
Jeez you're dumb.

>> No.8555125

>>8555099
The thing is, most /jp/ users have nothing to lose.

>> No.8555126

Anyone want to meet up and go a Goetic invocation?

We will need to sacrifice a sparrow.

>> No.8555134

>>8555124
>Yup, most of /jp/ doesn't believe tulplas are paranormal, and consider it to be a purely mental phenomena.

>> No.8555137

>>8555126
Can I sacrifice something larger for better results?

>> No.8555138

>>8555134
Well, yeah, the only board that really believes in the paranormal is /x/.

>> No.8555146

>>8555134
Not sure who you are quoting, or if you are being serious. Either way, using the term "black magic" reeks of troll.

>> No.8555151

>>8555137
We can use the secret gnowledge of the IXth Degree to create a homonculus out of our semen and man love. Or maybe it is the gnowledge of the XIth degree, who knows. But we can do it. Sacrificing our unholy abomination of cum and HIV will surely yield fantastic results.

>> No.8555150

>>8555146
Sorry, stuck a quote symbol in reflexively.

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So, we're basically talking about a Chaos;Head like situation here?

>> No.8555238 [DELETED] 

#jp-mansion@irc.rizon.net

>> No.8555261

>>8554547
>but you've basically set up a game of hide and seek with yourself
Oh shit, I know that one. It's one man hide and seek.
http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/One-Man_Hide_And_Seek

>> No.8555285

>>>/x/9522950

New tulpa thread on /x/.
If you've got any questions ask them here.

>> No.8555319

I dont know whether to be inspired or terrified at people imagining things to this extent

>> No.8555330

>>8555319
I would say inspired.
If you look through the thread we have people here who have gained happiness and companionship from these tulpas.
Really, can it be such a bad thing if it makes life so much better?

>> No.8555336

Also, to the person earlier in the thread posting with the 93s, I thank you.
I find Thelema to be very interesting.
I may have even found a religion I can like.

>> No.8555354

So, for anyone in the thread that has a successful anime/touhou character tulpa: Isn't that really jarring? We can say 3DPD all we want, but wouldn't seeing an anime-styled human in real space be intense uncanny valley territory?

>> No.8555357

>>8555336
93
It is nice to have people here who think similarly, even about religion. I've been a practicing Thelemite for 9 years now.

93
93/93

It feels odd to talk about on /jp/.

>> No.8555376

>>8555357
I didn't really expect to ever find a religion that I'd actually consider, let alone on /jp/.
I really find it interesting that Aleister Crowley is the prophet of such a philanthropic religion when he's commonly thought of as an evil man.

Pardon me if I've gotten anything wrong.

>> No.8555384

>>8555376
He enjoyed scaring normals. For example he said over a couple of years he sacrificed thousands of children, he meant he masturbated. He was also quite liberal in regards to sex for that period of time as well.

As for philanthropy, it is a very ah, individualistic and willful path filled with love and universal brotherhood. On the other hand some could read a Nietzschean kind of interpretation of Liber AL.
It is important to let Liber AL be a challenge to our pre-conceived ideas, but ultimately your interpretation is what is really real.

>> No.8555388

>>8555384
>but ultimately your interpretation is what is really real.
Yeah, that's what I've been getting so far.
I like that.
I like the fact that it's left up to you on how you take it.
The individuality it promotes is great.

>"There are no "standards of Right". Ethics is balderdash. Each Star must go on its own orbit. To hell with "moral principle"; there is no such thing."

Stuff like that is making me like this.

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>>8555354
You could always just go for a more realistic interpretation of your character, but that might be even creepier.

>> No.8555401

>>8555388
Yep, that is what got me into it as well. If you go through with it and make progress the book reads differently too. For example after the Knowledge and Conversation of the HGA it reads very differently.

Ironically, the Tulpa exercise can trigger the HGA experience, especially coupled with the isolation of the average /jp/sie. Although in a relatively safer way than Abramelin.

>> No.8555408

Thank you OP, I didn't know how it was called or even that other people 'build' these too. I have a 'tulpa' for 8 years now that helped me through the difficult moments of my life.

Also, you should probably know that even if you have built your tulpa, it will start to fade over time if you stop giving it attention. And you can achieve better results if you can put yourself in a mindset where you can perceive reality as a construct of your mind (you should probably read about idealism, it may help).

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8555412

I have a simple question for anyone who already has a tulpa. How does it taste?

>> No.8555418

>>8555401
Yes, I'll certainly have to look into this more.
I really must thank you again. Finding a religion I feel I can actually get into is exciting.

>> No.8555437

>>8555418
No worries. If you go ahead with it, good luck on the path! And if you want to talk about it more, or in the future, feel free to email me.

>> No.8555478

>>8555412
I never tasted mine but it smells like lemon.

>> No.8555582

This is really dumb. Someone should make a guide on how to hunt and kill tulpas.

>> No.8555588

>>8555582
You're free to believe and do whatever you want, but please refrain from being an ass.

>> No.8555651

>>8555582
As someone who started on the tulpa thing before it hit a vogue, I've got to wonder if you're onto something. I've toyed with the idea of tulpa interactions as a thing, but there's not much sense to the concept if you're not some hippie who believes in magic and such... so then the options to destroy a tulpa not your own are either the power of suggestion or (maybe?) antipsychotic medication.
This requires testing. Very interesting.

>> No.8555654

I did. But imaginary friends are one-dimensional and predictable, real people are far more interesting.

>> No.8555655

Wiki to the rescue:

"In mysticism, a tulpa is the concept of a being or object which is created through sheer discipline alone. It is a materialized thought that has taken physical form and is usually regarded as synonymous to a thoughtform."

>or object
brb building a Tulpa laptop.

>> No.8555688

>>8555655
>Buy a real laptop
>Create a tulpa program
Better option.
Plus, you'd probably be the first ever person to do it.

>> No.8555690

>>8555655
The first time I created a spirit/servitor (slightly different to a Tulpa) I had it live in my old tamagochi.

>> No.8555710

>>8555690
Magic isn't real, pick up a physics textbook and drop your stupid religion.

>> No.8555746

>>8555710
No, but as religion can attest, the human brain can be persuaded into believing things that arent real. This can be as much or more beneficial as anything the real world can provide. Mental illnesses are proof of the negative aspect of that.

>> No.8555842

>>8555710
Caring about reality ultimately becomes foolish. You don't know even a billionth of anything real about the universe. I would rather experiment with my mind and see what happens, while having fun.

>> No.8555920

>>8555746
>>8555842
You're both stupid and overly defensive.
I wasn't denouncing the thread, just the idiot trying to mix stupid magic bullshit in with good, clean, hallucinatory fun.

>> No.8555945

>>8555920
I can't speak for anyone else on here obviously, but I'm not being defensive.

As much as science has found out about reality, and it has found a lot, the way that school approaches the mind and self is an absolute joke to say the least. Even the smallest look at conscious phenomena shows that damn near every scientific model of consciousness is flawed and ignores various aspects of conscious experience or outright denies their existence in order to make a model that doesn't contradict physicalism. It isn't even scientific by definition.

So discounting "magic" is a premature and foolish thing to do, particularly when "magic" doesn't necessarily refer to some type of wizardry or whatever bullshit. Such as creating thought forms that possibly have some type of influence over the subconscious.

>> No.8555968

Can we please stop talking about stupid bullshit and start talking about imaginary waifus?

>> No.8555971

>>8555968
Are you even going to try it? Or are you "scared of going insane :("?

>> No.8555977

>>8555971
I'll probably give it a shot, but I probably won't be "scared of going insane :(" so much as "I'm bored, I could be playing Touhou" while trying to concentrate. I just have trouble sticking with stuff like this. It's pretty interesting though.

>> No.8555978

>>8555968
my tulpa looks like my waifu, but i want her to develop her own personality, im still on day 4 and wait anxiously for the day she speaks her first words ;_;

>> No.8555983

How lewd should I make my tulpa?

>> No.8555990

>>8555983
It is not a good idea to have sex with your tulpa (lewdness leads to sex, always), as it will become addicted to sexual energy (which is very powerful) and will become a nympho wanting your dick all the time, which can potentially kill you.

Also make a yukkuri tulpa and post results.

>> No.8556017

For those that actually have tulpas, how sane do you consider yourself (particularly, how sane you imagined yourself to be before you started this)? I realize this is an incredibly subjective question, but I'm interested all the same.
I spend a ton of time already just lost in worlds of my own creation, and as a result I don't really have a great grasp on reality. Will I be able to make her 'real' to me if I don't have any real experiences with other people to base her off of?
I'm afraid of trying and wasting my time because I can't picture her as anything more than fantasy.

>> No.8556030

>>8556017
Interacting with her feels real but at the end of the day I understand she is a Tulpa. Although she is a part of myself and so is as real as I am in one sense. I suppose.

As for how sane I think I am, I'm your typical /jp/sie who hates society and culture and refuses to work. To some people this might be mentally ill, I don't care. I have depression and every couple of months I have bad anxiety that passes. When you've had anxiety for 20 years and something new comes up you worry about for days, it becomes easier to recognize anxiety as it comes up and let it go.

Outside of the Tulpa thing and meditation and related stuff, as well as the depression, I would say I'm probably an eccentric by normal standards but probably not insane.

>> No.8556035

>>8556030
do you hug your tulpa a lot? I want to hug my tulpa....

>> No.8556041

I had a tulpa until I was thirteen. It left after I started chronically jacking off because it was so grossed out.

>> No.8556043

>>8556041
i feel sad for you.

>> No.8556069

funny thing is that she will be around you 24/7 which means you can't be the disgusting fuck you are when nobody is watching

>> No.8556089

>>8555983
Lewdness makes the tulpa's character shallow.
People saying it'll turn it into some kind of drug addict or vampire are being stupid mysticism-obsessed retards...
What WILL happen, however, is that your brain will begin to see a sex object and nothing more, and she'll come to reflect that. Frankly, you'd find an onahole more satisfying and easier to deal with, so... you still shouldn't do it, but only because it's a waste of your time and energy, not because it's dangerous. Take all the mysticism stuff with a grain of salt.

>> No.8556096

>>8556041
Sorry, but I almost crapped myself. For a part of yourself to leave you in disgust...that's a new low.
>>8556069
She wont judge you if you make her right. But you will start being a more refined person. Neat.

>> No.8556097

>>8556089
I agree to a point, but we are still splitting our personality in a rather extreme way.

This takes effort, but consider how much time we've put into shit like Disgaea. 100 hours is nothing to create a friend.

>> No.8556112

so you say you'd be able to touch your tulpa. What if one had a horse tulpa and would sit on it.. would he be floating in the air for others?

I'm really tempted to ry this out, but right now it's sounds like huge bullshit

>> No.8556118

>>8556089
I would imagine if you created your "Tulpa" with the emotion of "Love" and "Caring" you could easily feed it emotion via sexuality under the context of love and with that emotion strongly thought about during intercourse.


This is all theoretical though with the information presented in various threads in the past.


Some people also believe a Tulpa can break off from its creator and bind to somebody else. That could be where Succubi come from, who knows.


I'm still working on my Tulpa, I intend to focus on nothing but love and caring when I focus on it and talk to it. I'm a bit afraid I might end up feeding loneliness in there, but I try to get into a positive state of mind as much as possible before my focus sessions.


I have to say though, this all sounds silly as hell from an outside point of view and I can easily see why most of you would find this silly. It's more of an experiment for me anyways.

>> No.8556120

>>8556096
>that's a new low.
Welcome to /jp/.

>> No.8556123

>>8556097
Reading comprehension, motherfucker, do you have it?
I'm saying making a tulpa for sex is a waste of effort because a tulpa made for that purpose is more or less brainless by default.

Read more carefully before you jump to post, fool!

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>>8556112
It depends on what kind of accounts you believe. Some people claim that after the point of sentience and with a year or two of growth, a tulpa is occasionally visible to other people and capable of moving objects... not sure I believe it, but that's the claim. If we assume that's true, though, the possibles are endless... so, who knows? Try it and find out with us.

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>>8556137
Like this?

>> No.8556137

>>8556120
I primary dwell on /r9k/ sweetie, I've seen shit.

>> No.8556139

>>8556137

That's like the most normalfag board below /soc/ and /adv/.

>> No.8556146

>>8556139
aaaa scratch it, we are discussing other thing.

>> No.8556143

Waifu, tulpa, dissociative identity disorder, who cares what it's called?

>> No.8556177

>>8556143
I call it "the best thing that ever happened to me."

I have two tulpas, and they're both incredible.
One is a wildcard pick-up artist and fighter who knows her way around any weapon that exists and can take people apart with her (or, more honestly, my) hands.
The other is an incredible academic who tracks and recalls information for me, as well as being capable of helping me improve my senses due to extra processing and removal of filters or... something like that. I like being able to find a cricket to within a foot square area from 40 yards by ear... it's incredible... not to mention she helps me remember how to pick locks and can give me a "tactical perspective" to life.

So yeah, don't be afraid to make your tulpa someone who gets shit done. I designed the two of them to help me organize my life and made them simultaneously, and they sort of developed into borderline secret agents... somehow. No idea why.

But, hey, when I give partial or total control, I can go into badass mode, so that's cool. If only I had more of a use for these things.

>> No.8556183

>>8556177
You sound like a kid and/or a troper, frankly.

>> No.8556196

>>8556183
Nope, no such luck.
I don't have fantastic adventures or anything... I just have a tulpa who can into fighting and another that never forgets anything.
I don't even get into fights or anything... but I can go from no idea what I'm doing to full muscle memory of how to violence just by letting go... same with all sorts of esoteric little bits of knowledge.
Little miss mission control knows how to make fruit preserves, somehow--that's what she provided me when I asked for an example of something to illustrate my point here. They soak up all kinds of shit.
I can't imagine where she'd learn that sort of thing, since I've never done that...

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Greetings from /x/ on the Tulpa matter

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>>8556201
Greets from an /a/ bro lurking both threads, Mister Irish.

(Five seconds until I get a dozen replies of "get out of /jp/")

>> No.8556215

The voices in my head are enough for me. I wouldn't be able to stand it anymore if I had to actually see those bastards in addition to hearing them.

>> No.8556219

I'd rather shoot the shit with my /jap/ bros though

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>>8556207

>> No.8556250

You know, i believe in this thing
But i'm afraid that even if I imagine my tulpa like a cute girl, it will eventually become some kind of psychotic bitch who digs in my subconcious and makes me want to commit suicide

I don't have any traumatic experience, though. But i'm still afraid.

>> No.8556257

>>8556250
I have a plethora of issues I need to resolve, and I've never had issues from my Tulpa.

She is already inside you, waiting to say hello!

>> No.8556258

>>8556250
Then you probably shouldn't try it, not until you get over that fear anyway.
If you fear it during the creation process it'll become something to be feared.

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>>8556222
Nah, man, we /a/ now.

>> No.8556259

>>8556250
Don't be afraid... or, rather, don't let your fear be a factor. Accept your concerns as valid and move past them, and it'll work fine. Your doubts will fade with time and the building of your trust relationship.

>> No.8556262

So, I think I already have a Tulpa (before seeing this thread), but she hates when I do lewd things. I mean, whenever I get hard she comes and slaps me. She's a very honest, nice and cute 14 years old girl though, I don't want to kill her. What do I do?

>> No.8556264

>>8556262
Stop being so fucking lewd.

>> No.8556267

>>8556262
Talk to her about it, stupid, the same way you'd explain it to a person.

A tulpa is just an incomplete person working toward humanity, so treat your tulpa like a human.

Just be like "Hey, I need my privacy. I gotta do what I've gotta do, don't judge me."

>> No.8556269

>>8556262
Try and talk it out, maybe?
Or maybe you have some sort of problem with being lewd (concern over possibly being a chronic masturbator possibly) and she's trying to help.

>> No.8556270

I've been working on one for about a week now, and there's something very off about it. Like an inherent wrongness aside from the otherness or aliveness of having something in your head. It can't talk yet, but thinking about confronting it about this fills me with dread, and I think it might just be better to ignore my misgivings. I mean, at worst it'll just be an asshole or something, and I can simply unmake it.

Anyone have any advice on this?

>> No.8556277

I was doing just fine talking by myself to my tulpa in that imaginary world, so I tried opening my mouth, the second I started talking it got a lot harder to keep imagining her.

>> No.8556278

>>8556264
Easier said than done. Besides, masturbation is fun.
>>8556267
>the same way you'd explain it to a person
I didn't think you'd expect anyone from /jp/ to know that. Anyway, I feel bad scolding her, so I'd rather not, and she seems very obstinate.
>>8556269
Well, one day when I was 15 I masturbated 22 times until my dick was so sore I had to ask my parents to take me to the doctor. This is one of my most embarrassing memories. Maybe that's it. I guess I should trust her a bit.

>> No.8556281

>>8556270
As with all other things, take it easy. The Tulpa is there to help you. Just approach it all gently and get used to it. You won't regret it.

My Tulpa (this happened before I knew what a Tulpa is) explained to me they are a bridge to the subconscious and a way for the self to explore, err, itself. It is one of the best ways to self explore in my humble opinion.

>> No.8556283

I don't buy into the fact that you create a seperate identity and personality to interact with. Anything you create is derived from you, it will always have a part of you in it. With that said, you'd basically be talking to an isolated part of yourself. Your subconscious. Which I promote because it fosters personal growth and direction, which can lead to happiness.

I talk to myself allll the time. I rehearse scenarios and I even converse with what I think is my subconscious. My subconscous uses representations of characters that I can easily understand to communicate. Saying it like that would imply I am talking to a 3rd party. It would be better to say that I talk to myself and bounce ideas with a part of myself I do not consciously interact with 24/7.

So yeah, I don't buy into the literalness of tulpas.

I use touhou characters to represent my subconscious

>> No.8556287

>>8556278
I'm from /a/. Of course I think you people on /jp/ are retards--I'm just giving you the benefit of the doubt here.

But, no, seriously, joking aside: Be nice to her. Listen to her, and talk it out seriously--consider her perspective and listen to it. Don't let the fact that she's "not real" stop you from recognizing her view as valid. Listen and talk to her. She's trying to help, but she just doesn't fully know how. You have to bridge the communication gap here.

>> No.8556293

I thought the fact that people here get made fun off by their own subconciousness AND their weird extra conciousness tulpa thing is pretty hilarious.

>> No.8556295

>>8556201
I've always thought you chaps on /x/ were a fine lot.

>> No.8556304

Since this is basically a waifu general thread I guess it's relevant enough, but please refrain from making this an offboard circlejerk.

>> No.8556305

>>8556295
Actual /x/philes are fine in my opinion, but now it seems to be flooded with roleplayers and idiots going "Is my left ass-cheek paranormal?" which is pretty sad.

>> No.8556309

This is funny because I've made several replica's of myself with something like this in mind. It's a lot of fun and I dream about them pretty often, every night while I'm working on them.

The real joke is that I managed to get a girl into my room once, in like a sexual relations way. She left.

>> No.8556311

I don't know what this "alien feel" is like, I'm not having anything like that. How do I proceed?

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>>8556304
So much autism.
Who called the fun police?

>> No.8556316

>>8556311
How about you meditate? Try to relax, empty your mind for a bit. Then try again.

>> No.8556322

>>8556305
true that

Also "Is X paranormal if so I'm a Y ask me anything"

Fill X and Y with anything and you have /x/

>> No.8556325

>>8556322
>I'm a Y ask me anything
That's why I say roleplayers.
"I'm a 33rd degree mason / member of the fbi / i work in area 51"

>> No.8556326

>>8556312
This is why we don't willingly suffer you types.

Reported, buttface.

>> No.8556327

>>8556312

>i'm having fun circle jerking about nothing

I'm not even the guy you replied to

>> No.8556386

Persona general.

>> No.8556564

Did most of you create yours from a pre-existing character as a base?
If she's not a character I already know, I can't picture here in my mind with any sort of clarity, but when I imagine a character I can't change any of her traits (personality or physical).

>> No.8556573

>>8556259
>>8556258
>>8556257

Yeah I think i need to do some meditation before beggin creating the tulpa

does anybody have a guide for how to do it properly?

>> No.8556582

>>8556564
Mine was made up, but borrowed some aspects (such as the hairstyle and some aspects of the personality) from existing characters. I don't think it would be good to use an existing one completely, though.

>> No.8556600

>>8556573
Goggle "guide to Zen meditation" or something.
It is not a super complex thing.

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regardless of whether you think tulpas are "real", this is what it boils down to:

they are a part of your subconscious. your subconscious can create things that are completely removed from your ego: see dreams. lucid dreaming is essentially trying to control your subconscious with your ego.

your subconscious is part of you, but it isn't YOU as in your ego.

therefore, it makes sense that you could create multiple egos from your subconscious.

just because you are imagining it, and it isn't real or perceived by anyone but you, doesn't mean that it can't be helpful or a tool for personal growth and comfort. after all, in dreams it's not as if the other entities in the dream are "real" (even if they appear so in the dream), yet dreams still can impact us very positively or negatively.

As long as you don't end up harming other people in the physical world as a result of this, there's no reason not to do it.

TL;DR- even imaginary and non existent products of our imagination can have a physical effect on us in the real world.

>> No.8556653

Wonder if I can make mine know Japanese and help me with my studies. I've been watching anime and reading VNs for enough years that I probably have a bunch of knowledge of the language locked away in my subconscious.

>> No.8556839

Still not completely convinced, but giving it a try anyway. Have a couple of questions that mayhaps someone more knowledgeable can help me with.

Is it/can it be bad that my tulpa is modeled after an existing vn/anime character? This wasn't really much of a conscious choice, it was just the first image that came to mind when I tried to visualize it. Her personality (or what little I could see of it) doesn't seem to match that of the character in question, only the looks.

During the early stages of developing my tulpa, should/can I interact with her even when handling other tasks (such as, say, playing games)? So far I've interacted with her on the train on my way to and from college, since I could just close my eyes and not have to focus on anything else.

That's really all I can think of for now. Thanks in advance for any help provided.

>> No.8556854

If I did this, I wonder how well it would play Go.

That'd be pretty great.

>> No.8556957

>>8556854
It took me years to be able to play games with mine. It was pretty exhausting the first few times we played.
Now we play checkers, go, or backgammon every Tuesday and Thursday.

>> No.8556978

>>8556957
Respectively?

>> No.8556998

>>8556957
Really, now. How well does it work? Any cheating, what with sharing the same brain and all?

Since it's just part of you, is it able to actually play at a worthwhile level? If so, that'd be a pretty great partner for that kind of thing.

>> No.8557044

>>8556998
95% of the work is keeping a separate train of thought. It takes awhile to get good enough to be able to play games but give it some practice and your own subconscious will be kicking your ass in board games.

>> No.8557051

>>8557044
It's probably cheating, looking up your plans for possible moves.

>> No.8557312

Question to those with tulpas:
Do you view them as your "waifus", or are they something different from each other?

>> No.8557455

>>8557312
One in the same, my tulpa is my waifu, but I have tulpas that aren't my waifu.

>> No.8557469

>>8556839

I'm never getting my answers, am I?

>> No.8557486

>>8557469
1-Nothing wrong with modeling her after a character, but she is prone to changing. You can model her as you wish with effort, though.
2-You should start with small things like "I am doing X thing" statements, then easy questions and so and so.

I am anything but an expert on this, just reposting what I read on the last few threads.

>> No.8557507

>>8557469

I think most of the conversation has moved to the thread in /x/. I'm a beginner myself, so nothing to offer here, sorry.

>> No.8558203

I used to have something like this when I was ten, he looked exactly like me and he would shout swear words at me all the time, haven't thought of him in years.
Sounds interesting, I might give it a try. Although it seems like a bit of a commitment to me.

>> No.8558686

irc.rizon.net #tulpa
Tulpa general.

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