/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Flutter of Birds 1 and 2.

The guys in those are doctors. Depressing games dealing with impending death, misery and disease.

Rance. About as far from average students as you get.

Planetarian

Get a different hobby

I Can't Believe These Characters Are So Terrible!

nearly all InoGrey games
most 5pb/N+ games
some of the blackcyc, I think, too.

Be-yond.

I was thinking about this yesterday.
As a follow-up to OP's request:
Are there any VNs where the character isn't 13-18 years old?

I always feel bad playing VNs where the student is in high school or whatever because it just makes me depressed how much I wasted my teenage years, and I can't connect to the character.
I guess I can extend this request to anime/LNs/manga/novels/whatever, since I really enjoyed all the versions of NHK ni Youkoso.

Oh look, it's the milf autist guy again. He's like our very own fhc.

>>8543873

>I always feel bad playing VNs where the student is in high school or whatever because it just makes me depressed how much I wasted my teenage years

>>8543887
Don't put words in my mouth.

>>8543873
Who the fuck actually relates to the protagonists in VN/manga/anime?

>>8543848
VN Protag:
"I am Takadatsu Honda and I am just an average salary man."

>>8543903
He was quoting me you nerd.

>>8543906
That's generally how stories work. At the very least you should understand the character and think, "Hey, I get what this guy is going for" in a given situation, even if you don't entirely agree with him. Whether you're aware of it or not.

>>8543917
I'm talking about his image you nerd.

>>8543917
>At the very least you should understand the character
That's pretty much it, I don't relate to the characters.

>>8543963

Those two things are different. But if you cannot relate to the character, or at least find them interesting, the story might not have much value for you.

I think most people, Japanese or not, read visual novels precisely because they missed out, and likely are missing out now. Despite the shitposting, /jp/ is mostly college-aged. We can never again be high school students. That world is closed to us forever. So maybe the only way we can feel any of it is through fantasy.

But that doesn't seem like the answer if it's making you sad and reminding you of it.

Expanding a little on the subject, are there doujinshi where faceless males are being raped or sexually abused by women? I mean, you always see faceless men getting it on with women, I wish I could have the opposite for a change.

I like Remember 11. The two protagonists are college-age kids dealing with a crisis while solving a mystery. The male comes off more as a smart college graduate, maybe he is one I don't remember.

>>8544094
The world doesn't have enough faceless females.

Wanko to kurasou, protagonist seems to be an average dickhead at the start but turns out to be an ex man whore and an all round badass. Also people fuck dogs and cats.

>>8544057
>But if you cannot relate to the character, ..., the story might not have much value for you.
I strongly disagree. Tailored self-insert protagonists make everything predictable, bland and annoying. I want a story, not an ego trip. Who the heck invented this shit?

>>8544198

>But if you cannot relate to the character, ..., the story might not have much value for you.
>might
>word indicating a lack of certainty about a conclusion

Nitro+ do the best protagonists in the industry. Actually, they do the best everything in the industry, besides H-scenes. Their writers just aren't cut out for erotic text.

Steins;Gate

>>8546670
Yes. Okabe Rintarou for character of the year. I started reading Chaos Head Noah after finishing Steins Gate and am already sick of Takumi by chapter 4. Does he ever... stop being such a fucking pussy?

>>8546682
Yeah, when Find the Blue starts playing.

I don't care about this "just an average high school student" trope. It can be a setup for a nice plot anyway. What bugs me is that they are more often than not total idiots. The stupidity of the MCs is astonishing.

Even worse, most of them are bland as it gets. Even stupid people can have a personality. Sadly, they don't. Give me a MC with some character, ffs.

>>8546697
Conquering the Queen
Suck my Dick or Die

100% alpha protagonists
Not even trolling

ITT: people who still have not read Muramasa.

Seiken no Inganock.

Soukou Muramasa
Ikusa Megami & Genrin series
Extravaganza
MinDead Blood
Artemis Blue
Venus Blood series
Aiyoku no Eustia
Rance series
Scarlett
Baldr Force/Sky (outside of flashbacks)
Utawarerumono

some stuff from top of my head

>>8546694
i hope you don't mean the very opening (*´ー｀) is it used as an insert somewhere?

>>8546752
Yes. It's actually a pretty awesome scene, and I'm not going to spoil it for you. It reminds me of that part of the Steins;gate anime when Sky Clad Observer starts playing (I haven't played the VN yet, I'm waiting for the re translation)

kara no shoujo

>>8546765
Ah you must mean towards the end of Steins Gate huh. Yeah that was a great moment so I understand you not wanting to spoil it. I'll wait in anticipation.

>>8546781
Don't expect to much.

>>8546682
thats his fucking character, I like him, he was different.

>>8546682
Not everybody has to be a white knight and perfect as fuck mc, thats why people are getting tried of this normal but clean headed and cool protag, its fucking just not realistic.

Are the Japanese at least getting tired of the same protag over and over again? Have they had threads about this before? Or is it just us westerners that feel this way?

A lot of Lilith soft nukiges don't have an average student as protag.

>>8546814
Okabe is spastic, cowardly and somewhat insane and I loved it. But I don't find Takumi likable in his difference because he's just as annoying as those kinds of people in real life.

>>8546818

They like repetitive things. I still can remember a 2ch thread where they found an article about repetitive JRPGs on some western website. Rage was ensured.

Maybe autismal is a critical national trait of them.

>>8546834
Thats why he was a breath of fresh air, he was realistic, Okabe came off as corny for me sometimes.

>>8546705
but I read Naruto, isn't that the same

I really enjoyed the strangeness and the whole attitude Okabe had but what made me like the character even more was how fast he dropped the mad scientist act once things got really serious and how much he really cared about every single character and how hard it was for him to erase their memories.

He is really such a good-hearted guy, which is revealed through the flashback to Mayuri on her granny's grave and all the crises he has to deal with.

When I saw how he had to put up the Hououin facade when erasing the Dmail from SERNs server just so he could be able to pull through it really broke my heart. Especialy when Mayuri says "It's okay, you can stop now" in the β world line.

I think the similarities between him and Dr. Nakabachi are also really interesting, although Okabe is ultimately not such a crazed maniac. It's funny how Faris and Kurisu pick up on that in the Drama CD.

>>8546818
They like predictability.

>>8546854
Why? Dont they get bored sometimes? I mean they are not as bad as hollywood or western media when it comes to predictability but they have to have gotten bored of the 15 year old mc by now..

>>8546871

Eroge/VNs are mostly focused on the girls. I think they make the MCs bland on purpose, so a lot of people won't have problems with them.

>>8546871
>Dont they get bored sometimes?

They wouldn't have widely accepted proverbs like "The nail that sticks up must be struck down" if that were the case.

>>8546871
I'd rather have the 'usual' bland mc I can work with than something different I might not like, since a horrid mc pretty much ruins the whole game.

>>8546891

True, but that doesn't work if the game is heavily focused on the MC. That's what killed a good chunk of MLA for me.

>>8546871
It works, so why fix what isn't broken? Of course there are some deviations, but it's a winning formula. Kind of like the Monomyth or whatever. It just works.

We need more adults like college students who chill and stuff and actually have fun conversation , it worked great for steins gate and remember 11.

Demonbane?

>>8543873
I spent mine doing exactly what I love and enjoy, videogames.

If you were too much of a pussy to do what you loved, I feel bad for you.

>>8543848
>Immortal Wrestling Federation

Roster's a bit lacking but damn if they don't take their bumps well.

>>8546941
>If you were too much of a pussy to do what you loved, I feel bad for you.
I really wanted to date Sophie Andrews from Class 3C but she was way out of my league ;_;

>>8547081
The faces and heels go well together, don't they? Too bad there aren't many tweeners, though.

>>8546705
>>8546737
This. Muramasa and Baldr Sky.
This is a fucking troll thread, though, unless OP is English-only peasant.

>>8546880
100% this. You see the same ikemen protagonists in the majority of eroge because of this.