/jp/ - Otaku Culture

what, so you want to be demoned away anytime soon?

Speaking of japan and small towns. Apparently there is no demand for furusato houses and you can buy one for a few grand. You could technically own a small town worth of houses for a years worth of work. Id like to do it, problem is visa and stuff.

You should look for a country with mountains where they build houses close like that in the valleys.

I live in Europe, but in my country it's the same, basically no villages like that. The people in the countryside here tend to live quite far from each other as well. Maybe some middle-European country?

Well I'm sure there is some in US, it's a huge place.
I'm in the UK and we have some pretty nice little country towns.

>>8537250
Haha, I knew someone was gonna make an Onikakushi or Hinamizawa Syndrome joke.

But nah, I'm just sick of this concrete jungle bullshit. I want to live in a place where I can walk outside and see trees that weren't planted solely to make the city less grey looking. A place where it's quiet and the air is fresh. Nature, y'know?

>>8537261
Quiet? Have you HEARD those Cicadas?

>>8537261
You could come to Hawaii but all of our beautiful country areas are populated by big dumb Hawaiian bums.

>I want a small, but closely-knit village.

Add "affluent" and I lived in a place like this. One thing stands out now: the people were terrible. Gossipy, small-minded, insular and a bit creepy. That's what happens when your entire world is shaped by a tiny village.

Since I'm a loner the beautiful scenery made up for it, but you said "closely-knit" so I guess you're looking for community...

>I want a small, but closely-knit village.

Add "affluent" and I lived in a place like this. One thing stands out now: the people were terrible. Gossipy, small-minded, insular and a bit creepy. That's what happens when your entire world is shaped by a tiny village.

Since I'm a loner the beautiful scenery made up for it, but you said "closely-knit" so I guess you're looking for community...

I feel you, OP.
When I was little I lived in one of the farming areas of Indiana. I fucking loved it there. I looked up the area on Google Street View recently and I cried from how much I missed it.

Now I live in south Florida, near Miami. You can't see a single star here. Ever. The whole goddamn city is lit up at all times and you hear cars and trains and all that shit even in the dead of night. Feels bad man.

>>8537287
Not necessarily looking for community, but I generally like the whole "everybody knows your name" thing. Like, I could walk into a restaurant and they would immediately know my order. Really, I just like the whole "less people and noise pollution" thing.

>>8537287
>Gossipy, small-minded, insular and a bit creepy.
funny, people in big cities are like that as well.

>>8537302
If the world is smaller and the attention gets focused on you. I think the experience would vary greatly from city-life.

There's loads of these in the UK, everyone knows everyone so they're all friendly, it must be nice.

>>8537302

Yeah but in a city it's easier to ignore, and you don't have people gossiping about you other than your social circle. In a village it's the whole fucking town, even people who don't know you personally. The amount of people in cities means that no one really cares about you, which suits me.

>>8537302
Dude. I live in an apartment building with THE most gossipy people in the fucking world. Recent example:
- My neighbor came over to borrow some tea bags.
- This one neighbor who doesn't like me or my mom gets all nasty with us, insisting that we were dealing drugs (we don't).
- Someone overhears this, tells another neighbor, who in turn tells the woman my mom babysits for that we were dealing drugs.
- The woman calls up my mom, and asks if this is true. We tell her it's bullshit and everything is fine.
- Mom tells her friend about the situation.
- It comes back to my mom that her friend had told someone, who told someone, who told this other friend of my mom's that she was fired from babysitting because she's a drug dealer.
- We insist that no, this is entirely bullshit.
- That person that we just told it was bullshit to tells the person who told them about it that it was bullshit.
- Somehow this gets back around to us that our friend (the last person we spoke to) said that we were drug dealers.
- We call them and they confirm that they said no such thing.

ALL OF THIS SHIT
OVER FUCKING TEA BAGS
AND NONE OF IT WAS TRUE
Fuck I hate this place.

Are you kidding me, OP?

There are fucking hundreds of those all over America.
You probably just don't know about most of them. Try to guess why.

>>8537344
Pfft, that's nothing. One time there was a stripper living in my apartment building. Some old bitches found out about it and put up fliers around the building about how some whore was living there and she was a danger to their children and shit. One day, one of them passed by her, smelled pot on her, called the cops and had her arrested for possession of pot.

And then they deported her because she was an illegal immigrant. All because some old bitches didn't want a stripper in the building

Outside of the big cities, Scandinavia is seriously full of that stuff.
Though I know there is a bunch of smaller settlements like that in the US too. Some of them even look like Scandinavian towns due to the Scandinavian settlers.

>>8537353
Because Alaska isn't America.
I hear its a nice place, i'd like to live there.

>>8537399
I hear the mosquitos are fucking horrible in the summer.

>>8537392
There are lots of those Scandinavian towns in Minnesota.

But there are small communities all over America outside the cities. America is made up of them.

>>8537399
Why isn't it? If not America, then what is Alaska?
I hear it's a nice place too. I would also like to live there

Alaska is a very boring state. The free handouts are nice but aren't going to amount to much more than a month's salary. No taxes are alright, but it really doesn't matter given how much more expensive everything is here(according to many of my acquaintances). Still, it's a hell of a lot better than nothing.

But there really is nothing to do. Competitive online gaming is bad due to lag, competitive offline gaming is lame because the communities are small and there's nobody good besides one player, the internet is monopolized and there is nothing faster than a slow DSL which has unlimited bandwidth. GCI has a complete monopoly on fast internet here.

That being said, if you like the outdoors or and/or are OK with either being gouged for internet or dealing with slow speed and bandwidth caps, it's not a bad place to live.

>>8537427
>if you like the outdoors or and/or are OK with either being gouged for internet or dealing with slow speed and bandwidth caps
Well that killed it for me.

I like the cold weather, but not a very outdoorsy person, unless everything is dead and covered in snow.

The best part about little towns like that is that nobody can hear you scream.

>>8537430
I'm sure there's no shortage of Alaskan places where everything is dead and snowed over.

Anime might give you the impression that rural japanese towns/villages are like that, but they're not really. You're only looking at a small part of the town, there rest is inevitably dominated by ugly farm/industrial buildings, roads, and other shit.

>>8537450
Agreed. I can console myself in the fact that nobody came because nobody heard instead of knowing that people in this garbage world just didn't give enough of a shit to do anything.

Learn to fucking expression ffs what you mean is Merikuh. America have plenty of places like that both in canada and whole central and south america.

>>8537427
The internet thing can be a deal breaker for me.

Why must it be like that?

When I lived in Canada I lived in one such village, OP. They're all over the place. Just drive ~50 km north of the US border and you'll almost definitely happen upon one.

Also, as a side note, I currently live in the bible belt and I really don't understand why everyone thinks it's such an awful, backward place filled with hicks and ignorant religious fanatics. In fact, the only difference I've noticed is that people around here are generally more congenial and helpful. Unless you actively search for controversy or fights, you're probably not going to find them.

>>8537459
>Why must it be like that?
Because shit country.

Meanwhile, even rural mountain areas are getting Fiber optics in Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp-f_3ztcMs

>>8537452
There's certainly lots of places in Alaska where it's dead, but you're sure as hell not getting halfway decent internet there.

As I said, if you like the outdoors, it's great. Plenty of small, isolated towns to live in, although many of them are largely native in population. And the winters are really beautiful no matter where you live, but they can be somewhat scary in some areas(some places had enough snow to partially bury houses this year).

>>8537466
Are you white or look white? That could make a big difference.

>>8537464
A mountainous area in Japan is a hell of a lot different from Alaska. We're an entire nation's distance from the rest of the nation, and we have the lowest population in the entire nation despite having the largest area last time I checked. That's also part of why things are more expensive here in general. I might also mention that a large percentage of our population is natives who don't know and don't really care about the internet.

Japan being able to wire itself well everywhere is a matter of course by comparison. Not that the US is a good country.

>>8537466
The REAL problem with that place is that it's literally flooded with niggers.

>>8537468
I am, but I have plenty of friends who are part of minority groups (black, Asian, and a Guatemalan) who also really love it here. Perhaps I just came to a nice part.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecovillage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commune

>>8537464
Well durr, you can fit the entire country of Japan in Alaska.
They have amazing internet and phone service because the country is so small in comparison to the US.

>>8537478
>An eco-house at Findhorn Ecovillage
Oh wow, I've been to Findhorn a few times, my mum used to go there just for their bread.

>>8537484
So then why can't a state the size of Japan have Japan quality internet within itself?

>>8537489
You're are mum is an faggot, nerd.

>>8537478
Dude, this Ecovillage thing sounds boss. Where do I sign up?

>>8537459
Moderately fast internet exists here, but as I said it just costs a lot to get the speeds other states can get for much cheaper, partially because we're so far away. And I'm fairly sure GCI removed their unlimited bandwidth program.

As a random thought, an Alaskan /jp/ mansion is an entertaining fantasy. Something could probably be done about the internet.

Want a true Hinamizawa experience? Well then come on down to the rural areas of West Virginia! Once you're here, you're here for life.

>>8537491
The external links have networks and lists of ecovillages. Though they're generally planned by the initial population, so I'm not sure if you can just waltz in there and get a house.
Make some friends with hippies. Live in a commune. Build a shack and live for free. Work your way up.

>>8537383
>didn't want a stripper in the building
I don't see the problem with this. As far as I'm concerned she is the same as a prostitute and deserves to be deported. Fucking scum.

>>8537490
Because Alaska has 0.7% the population of Japan.

>>8537494
Satellite internet? That's a thing.
Or use the idea I had for the /jp/ mansion: make a weekly trip to somewhere with internet, download your cartoons and a few 4chan threads, and reply to the threads you downloaded the week before (if they're not around any more, they weren't worth it to begin with).
There's surprisingly little you need a constant connection for.

>>8537497
>West Virginia
Nope.jpg.

From what I've heard, it's one of the worst places in the country. Plus, Chris-chan lives there.

Fuck the /jp/ mansion. Let's start a /jp/ commune!

Or someone who was born rich should buy a few NEETs into their home, like that British guy planned to do a couple of days ago.

http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/jesus-of-siberia-part-1

>2012
>Not wanting to live in some huge, noisy city

What about mediterranean villages?

>>8537490
I shouldn't even respond to this, but
-Not independent; we have to pay taxes to America and abide by its rules
-Incredibly low pop density
-Very low population; you seriously think Alaska's population compares to Japan's?
-Ethnic mixing, mixed cultures, mixed interests, no unity
-Cold weather makes for high upkeep on infrastructure of any kind
-All talented people go out of Alaska for work and school because that's naturally where the opportunity is; the people who stay are either lazy, stupid, or have family

I hope that answers your question sufficiently.

>>8537512
Wait.
I've got it.
/jp/ VILLAGE
Japanese-style houses.
A kotatsu in every home.
And then, wait for it, wait for it!
AN IMOUTO MAID IN EVERY HOME!

>>8537494
Just think about it.

Alaskan real estate must not be too expensive, we can get a nice mansion overlooking some beautiful landscape.
We could live off the free Alaskan money and autism bucks, or maybe have some work in an oil refinery nearby. You can make good money in those, it's just being far away from civilization that gets to people. But that won't bother us.
We could take morning hikes throughout the beautiful landscape whenever we want. There are also long nights and we aren't even that far from Japan.

Alaskan /jp/ mansion would be a wonderful thing.

I miss good pubs. They're all scary now.

WAIT
WAIT
I'VE GOT IT!
/jp/ MANSION ON A SMALL ISLAND IN JAPAN!

>>8537518
The only problem is, it would also be perfectly isolated enough for the one murderer among us to kill everyone and get away scot free.

>>8537518
If moving to America isn't complicated, I would happily emigrate and give you guys a hand.

Of course it's a pipe dream, but it's fun to pretend.

>>8537525
We'd lay out ground rules first like in a traditional commune.
"No murder" can be one of them!

But what about rape? Maybe some sort of opt-out system?

>>8537526
It's extremely complicated. Don't even bother.

>>8537531
No lewd allowed.

>>8537302
At least here in northern Europe it's MUCH worse in little places. Compared to villages, cities are like symbiotic oases of understanding.

>>8537532
Oh, never mind then.

Funny how I'm against long term effort like moving country, but I'd be totally fine with back-breaking physical labour.

>>8537526
By posting on 4chan, you are already on 20 different American terrorist watch lists.

WAIT
WAIT
I'VE GOT IT!
/jp/ MANSION [spoiler]

>>8537539
back breaking physical labor is nothing compared to moving to america, where you have to break several american laws just to get in.

>>8537525
That's a very morbid but relevant problem.
Sad to say it but, as much as I want to insult you for shitting over our pipe dream, that could very well be a good point. But I like to think that /jp/ would be above such a thing.
Obviously we would all need to own guns for defense. Should not be a problem, we could even go on hunting trips.

But look on the bright side, one could slowly kill us off and stay hidden. Then we can have /jp/ murder mystery and it would be just like our visual novels.

>>8537556
You'd give a shit if you died?
I mean, obviously you wouldn't, but why care?
Even if the /jp/ mansion is great and cures your depression, you're going to die anyway.

>>8537556
All we have to do is not hire a butler and everything will be fine.

>>8537556
I doubt a /jp/sie murder would actually kill other /jp/sies. Unless it was a shitposter, but we'd probably get annoyed with him and kill him way before he got around to killing us.

>>8537573
>>8537569
>>8537562
I think I found the murderer.

>>8537582
69 here...
I only dislike the lewd...

>>8537556
Just imagine it,

Amongst the beautiful landscape of Alaska, nestled in the snowy mountains lies an isolated Victorian mansion. It's occupants are a quiet, friendly bunch from a place called /jp/ who like to keep to themselves and talk about their favorite visual novels and Touhous.

But during the 30 days of night that comes by every year in the northern plains, as the soft blue night blankets the landscape and the beautiful stars and aurora borealis dance in the sky for an entire month on end, a scream is heard and a dead body of one of our dearest friends shows up in the foyer. One hidden among us has gone mad and plans to bring us all to a one way trip to Gensokyo!
Not only that, but they have cut all outside communications off, cut our internet cables, and slashed the gas tanks of our cars. We are now stuck, isolated in our own little world. Even the maid is suspect.

Will Anonymous team up and find out the killer in time before everyone gets murdered, or will they find out that they were the real killer all along?

>>8537603
Dude.
Wait a second.
Cut out all the /jp/ stuff for a second.
>Amongst the beautiful landscape of Alaska, nestled in the snowy mountains lies an isolated Victorian mansion
>But during the 30 days of night that comes by every year in the northern plains, as the soft blue night blankets the landscape and the beautiful stars and aurora borealis dance in the sky for an entire month on end, a scream is heard and a dead body

DUDE
That is an AWESOME idea for a murder mystery! A murder mystery that lasts for thirty days of endless night!

>>8537603
[ ]Go crazy and kill people
[ ]Team up
[x]Rape the maid

>>8537595
So in order to keep the illusion of a pure, little fantasy world, you killed off any Anonymous that performed any such lewd act? As no lewd Anon would defile your little /jp/ mansion dream?
THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, WASN'T IT ANONYMOUS?! YOU ARE THE KILLER! JUST ADMIT IT!

Knowing /jp/, all of us would be killed at one point with your delusions! It is only a matter of time until lewd thoughts gets to us.

>>8537609
Submit it to that one VN magazine project thing /jp/ is doing.

>>8537609
Why thank you, I just thought it up right now after googling the days in Alaska.
It did sound like a really awesome idea.

We should make our own VN from it. Or you could do something productive with the idea.

>>8537609
It's been done before.

>Read Agatha Christie's "And Then There Were None"

The only exception would probably be the indian part, but since it's basically a closed circle mystery. The only other variation would be..eh, too arsed to think of one.

>>8537635
Was the 30 days of only night thing there?

>>8537630
>>8537635
Then again, literature is derivative of several experiences and other works. So while it won't be original, it can be perceived as original with skillful writing.

>>8537616
I-I wouldn't l-let you do lewd things anon...you'd need control of your hands to do lewd things after all...and the freedom to leave my room...

>>8537641
Wait, literally thirty days of night?
Like some sort of prolonged eclipse?
That would be interesting. I mean, what would happen?
Would people live their lives as normal? Would the cops do anything? Would I NOT murder people?

>>8537641
Something similar to it as everyone is stranded in the middle of nowhere.

>>8537619
[X]Go crazy
[X]Team up
[x]Rape the maid

>>8537643
Nothing is original. Look at all the people who think "fantasy" means "rehashed sequels to Lord of the Rings."

>30 days of night
Nigga what? BRB moving to alaska.

>>8537648
>everyone is stranded in the middle of nowhere
Well that's like a majority of every murder mystery in existence.
Even Clue.

It's not stealing from anyone. Don't try to ruin our new idea.

>>8537646
How about this? There's an earthquake and it causes the ground around the mansion to separate and drift away from the mainland into the sea. Then people start to die. Of course, it would later be revealed that There wasn't an earthquake at all, it was intentionally done with explosives.

Oh and how about this? There would be 30 people, and one would die each day, except for the next-to-last day, where all that would remain are the detective and the culprit... but who wins?

>>8537651
Well, of course not, hell, Jung even said it himself that humanity has somewhat of a shared unconscious of shared images and thoughts.

Why would anything in humanity be perceived as original when seen through objective eyes?

However, it is because we exist as a constant state of being that we tend to observe things as subjective as possible.

So back to the topic, it'll be fun for you /jp/er's to write a closed circle mystery in the middle of Alaska, but at least take a couple of notes from people like Agatha Christie, Ellery Queen, or any other famous mystery writer before you attempt it.

>>8537659
>There's an earthquake and it causes the ground around the mansion to separate and drift away from the mainland into the sea. Then people start to die. Of course, it would later be revealed that There wasn't an earthquake at all, it was intentionally done with explosives.

That's stupid. Just have the mansion up in the mountains. Communications have been cut and any vehicle rendered useless. And there is a snowstorm, so leaving in the dark would be suicide.
Maybe a crazy Anon could try to leave to get help, only to freeze to death.

>>8537660
>Jung
>knowing shit about anything

>>8537659
The fucking culprit since it took so long for that dumbass detective to find out.

>>8537646
That kind of thing happens up North in Sweden and Alaska and such because of the Earth's tilt.
That's probably why they are all depressed.

>>8537667
I remember this one Conan episode where the same thing happened.

It turned out that the fat guy actually wasn't fat, so he was the murderer.

>>8537659
>>8537667
Why not just make it an island? Have the only boat off the island get sunk by the culprit and set up the story so that there would be no reason for anyone to assume that people were on the island.

And then after like 2 people die, some dumbass tries to jump off the island and swim to shore, but because it's fucking Alaska, he dies of hypothermia before he can even get out of their sight, much less make it to shore.

>>8537666
Eh, yeah, he's outdated, but I like his ideas about humanity as a whole.

btw, wasn't Jung a disciple of Freud?
>>8537659
That is a good idea. I kinda get Umineko vibes from it though since it involves explosives and killing people in a certain manner though, but it is a good idea.

Or you could go with the first one if you want, I'm just saying that what matters the most is if it was fun writing the mystery for you.
>>8537657
I'm not trying to ruin the idea, I'm just saying a little something here and there.

Feel free to ignore me.

>>8537670
WHAT IF THE DETECTIVE WAS THE CULPRIT ALL ALONG?!

>>8537678
That's a good idea, except make it so that the guy who tries to swim to shore was actually the real murderer (he committed suicide or something, I don't know). The rest of the murders happen out of paranoia and self-defense.

>>8537656
You're not getting that anywhere but possibly the far north where there is no internet(as far as we're concerned).

Also, it comes with a good 30 days or so of daytime around June, and that happens even in southern Alaska. Winters have long nights, summers have exceptionally long or unending days(only go to dusk, not night).

>>8537670
Oh but wait, then it turns out that the last person that got killed was the culprit, they survived and ran away, leaving the detective to kill the guy that defended himself against the murderer. Or the detective was killing people in his sleep all along etc etc.

I HATE CIRCLE JERKING THREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

>>8537684
4. The detective himself, or one of the official investigators, should never turn out to be the culprit. This is bald trickery, on a par with offering some one a bright penny for a five-dollar gold piece. It's false pretenses.

>>8537691
Are we knox or dine?
More importantly, does the writer want to follow these rules at all?

Sure, a set of rules would be able to streamline the creation of a story very well, but does it restrain the writer's creativity in any way?

I would hope that you guys do not write a third-rate MYSTERY.

>>8537696
Knox and Van Dine had a lot of good points. I think that anything that violates their rules (except maybe the whole uh, Chinaman thing) is probably not a good idea.

>>8537691
I won't say whether I think it's a good idea or not, but I think such things are acceptable with proper foreshadowing. The pretenses shouldn't matter as much as whether there was enough information for the audience to figure it out by the end.

weeabum maximum thread

>>8537698
A cop being the culprit is fine, provided there is foreshadowing.
The DETECTIVE being the culprit is complete bullshit though.

>>8537701
Okay then, if anyone agrees with "no detective being culprit" for the story. Quote, plox.

Talking about murders in a /jp/ mansion? What are you, 15?

>>8537704
detectiveculprit a shit

>>8537666
>implying Freud isn't even more outdated

>>8537909
i'm sure you showed him by age'ing this shitty thread while using greentext implications
Even if you're right.

>>8537919
Shut up faggot.

an given place in Montana or West Virginia

>>8537289
>You can't see a single star here. Ever.

I feel your pain. I used to live a few hundred kilometers away from an astronomical observatory, so the sky was almost always clear and beautiful. I even bought a telescope. Now I can barely see venus.

I'd love to live in the countryside some day

bump

Spain here, we have a lot of small towns like Hinanamizawa, the problem is there aren't so green like.
They are quite yellowish.
I'm sure there are places like Hinanamizawa in America, just search OP.

I lived in such a town. All other children my age were girls, too, including my sister with whom we were frequently mistaken as twins. That's the reason I grew up so feminine, I guess.

Those were good days, during spring I could pick maybe half a kilogram of various fruit and nuts from nearby trees while walking home from school.