/jp/ - Otaku Culture

THIS ONE

SUWAKO!

Nanoha

get teh reimu..............duh

Get Reimu.

Get Reimu and Suika.

Remiliaaaaaaa

All of them, good god.

>>8513980
that one with the silly hat

>>8513980
Hey OP.
Which Toranoana is that? I dont think the one @ Akiba has these shit.
I need to buy them before they run out.

>>8514283
Not OP, they do have them at the Toranoana in Akiba, you have to go the 4th floor iirc. Also I don't think thats the one at Akiba, the touhou floor should be all touhou only, also those should be back against the wall, unless they changed the layout since I was there. Also they might not have it anymore but they did have a Hakurei Shrine Donation Box piggy bank, I filled it with 567 1 yen coins, and a showa era 500 yen coin.

Nope that is the akihabara one, was there 2 weeks ago

>>8515123
>>8514662
Fuck. It is the Toranoana next to Taito?
How did I miss it all the months I am there. I am only getting back to Japan in a week time.
They better still have stocks when I get back.

Get them all.

Buy the touhou jewery hhahaaha fucking awesome, cant beleive i spent like 700+ there >_>

Why is it all in English.

>>8515177

Most Japanese have a decent grasp of English. It's part of the regular school curriculum.

>>8515177
That's like saying saying French is English

Wait, aren't those the shit-quality key chain figures?

If not, and what I saw was a pirate version, then go for angry Sakuya-san.

>>8515421
Ah, there seem to be some low-quality pirate versions on ebay.

Strawberry Shortcake

One of each.

None. These have been around for years. Go for one of the Nendoroids--better desktop material.

Get the Sanae. That's a famous Sanae.

>>8518623
>Nendoroids
Better than anything? You must be kidding.
Nendoroids are shit. They all have the same sculpt. Just different hair and clothes. There is a reason why they can mass produced 10types of miku nendoroids a year. They all look the same.

>>8518713

Look at the OP's pic, most of those look alike as well.

And yeah, there's a reason they can produce 10 types of Miku a year. Massive Chinese GSC factory and a fanbase larger than Touhou and Idolmaster combined.

Why is Sanae-san the only one with an honorific?

>>8518742
Is that a thinly veiled attempt at insulting Dioxin-sama?

>>8518742
Pixiv art wise, Touhou's bigger than im@s and vocaloid. There's also no Vocaloid convention in Japan nor does it dominate comiket nor does it have its own board on futaba.

I'd say Touhou's more popular in Japan. Abroad, it might not be as popular as vocaloid, then again probably the majority of any foreign vocaloid fans got that way by saving miku pics on the boorus and watching shitty miku vids on Youtube. Granted a lot of Western touhou fans are that way too, but not nearly as much so as Vocaloid (since there actually isn't a whole lot more to it than that). The other thing is Vocaloid's advertised everywhere because Yamaha has a vested interest in forcing it everywhere to be as popular as possible, while Touhou's popularity is basically completely grassroots.

>>8513980
my god get 2 of each

Get the Sanae. Those things aren't meant to be pretty like regular statues or cute in the same way as nendos, they are just goofy, and Sanae's takes the cake in that regard.

>>8515317
they don't have a decent grasp of english at all.

>>8521020
The dropouts that make eroge don't count.

>>8515317
It's part of regular school in every country in the world, and knowing verbs and grammar doesn't means that they can speak it fluently, and their language having no relation with proto-german and latin just makes it harder for them.
More at: bit.ly/wnCwT4

>>8518815
>Touhou's more popular in Japan
Nope, you don't know SHIT about Japan. Vocaloid is MUCH more popular because a lot normal people like it. Touhou is fringe bullshit for autists.

>no Vocaloid convention in Japan
Because conventions are for autistic neckbeards to trade fanfiction and fetish porn. Normal vocaloid fans just use NND, blogs, and other normal ways of communication.

>nor does it dominate comiket
See above. Also comiket is the holy grail of fetish porn and yaoi.

>nor does it have its own board on futaba
LOL Futaba. A fringe site with shitty, slow-moving boards, and known to be the gathering place of creeper otaku on the Japanese internet. /jp/ moves much faster than their Touhou board.

Your buttstatus: Mutilated.

>>8513980
Every time I see a picture of a weeaboo goods shop in Japan I get beyond butthurt.

>>8515317
>Most Japanese have a decent grasp of English.
Who told you these lies?

>>8521109
... you do realize that 1/3 of every Comiket is dedicated to Touhou, right?

You must be trolling.

>>8521109
Don't be stupid.

>>8521145
And lets not forget that Touhou has its own fucking convention at least once a year.

>>8521145
Okay...? Does comiket represent Japan? FUCK no. Vocaloid is much, much more popular than Touhou in Japan because of normal fans.

If you wanted to argue that Touhou is more popular than Vocaloid among the autistic neckbeards that attend doujin conventions, then yes, you are correct.

I already said these things, can't you idiots read?

>>8521166
Very well. Take a look at Pixiv and NND. See the trends. A colossal amount of art and videos is made for Touhou, and even though Miku gets her fair share of effort, it just does not equal Touhou.

I understand if you like Miku, but take a look at the numbers.

>>8521166
Look, why are you even comparing the two franchises ? You say it yourself, they don't operate around the same mechanics, do not have the same fanbase and abose all emerged at different periods. As we are right now, it is useless to make a summary of two markets that are still evolving.

>>8521175
Touhou 6- 2002
Vocaloid 2- 2007
5 years difference man

>>8521217
You might take into consideration that Pixiv and NND themselves didn't exist before 2007 either. Not saying that that timelapse is completely negated, but the trends have stayed remotely constant since then.

>>8521175
>Pixiv
Fringe site. Doesn't count if we are talking about Japan as a whole.

>NND
Half-fringe site, but both Touhou and Vocaloid have hundreds of millions of views total.

Vocaloid was even featured on NHK recently. Touhou will never achieve that popularity because it is only liked by a (vocal) group of autists on the internet. Deal with the fact that Vocaloid is much more popular than Touhou outside of fetish porn enthusiasts.

When I studied abroad in Japan I met a number of people at school who liked or at least knew about Vocaloid. No one knew about Touhou, however.

>>8521244
Next you will tell me that 2ch and 2chan are fringe too.

>>8521244
NND may be "half-fringe" but it's also the only thing that allowed the Vocaloid franchise to go that far due to its very solid community, something you will never be able to see on YT.

>>8521248
>2ch
Appeared on the news as a haven for drug dealers, underage prostitution and such. Basically the same way 4chan is portrayed as a CP site. Normal people don't go to 2ch.

>2chan
Bottom left of this pic is how Japanese netizens view 2chan.

You obviously don't know SHIT about Japan, so stop talking.

To be honest I don't think Vocaloid will surpass Touhou popularity.
Yeah, i get it, vocaloid also popular with normal people, but they will do what normal people do, forgetting the old hype and start into another one.
Also Vocaloid got popular mainly because of NND, the same thing happen with touhou for their secondary fans.

I wish they make more doujin game for Vocaloid outside of the casual VN and MMD videos.

>>8521306
Touhou relies almost entirely on the doujin culture, and if the system no longer becomes profitable it will most certainly stagnate.
Vocaloid has the chance to be supported by big companies but I can only wish they know what they are doing

>>8521321

The doujin culture mind is what wrong with all touhou, but also the only one that makes them strong as a community.
While in other hand we got that westernize car ads for with muscle Miku picture on it.

I'm pretty jealous

>>8521306
>I don't think Vocaloid will surpass Touhou popularity
You mean the other way around.
Miku = On national Japanese TV, newspapers, advertisements.
Touhou = On my computer for me to masturbate to.

English obviously isn't your first language, so I'll leave it at that. If you still insist that Touhou is more popular than Vocaloid, then keep fooling yourself. I put out enough proof.

>>8521358

>Miku = On national Japanese TV, newspapers, advertisements.

Yeah, for how long?
I love Miku, but seeing how they blindly advertise her feels like she won't stay for long.
I rather seeing the community grow up instead of seeing her getting take down by greedy jews.

I don't want Vocaloid turn into some fad just lady gaga.

>>8521376
The core fanbase is here to stay though, that's enough for me.

>>8521267
bottom right looks awesome, what is it??

>>8521421
Mobage Town, a site offering cellphone games with a community built around it.

>>8513980

Remilia & Reimu get.

>>8521376
Miku is mainstream as fuck in Japan.
Touhou has got zero presence outside of comiket or reitaisai. Even in Akiba it has zero presence unless you go to the doujin shops.
Meanwhile Miku is like everywhere. It has posters everwhere even in train stations. Sapporo even has a small section dedicated to it for their yearly Snow Festival.

>>8522180

I already know that, do you want me to repeat my question again?

>>8522180
That's because Yamaha pays for and sponsors their shit everywhere.

Just for frame of reference, at least online, they are are pretty similar in popularity by Japanese rubrics. A google.jp search for "ボーカロイド" yields 15.5 million hits with the quotes, 3.2 mil without. The same search for "東方Project" yields 14.2 million with quotes, 28 million without. For quick estimates of how many people are actually talking about something that's about as best I can do with the couple minutes I'm interested enough to compare these. Pixiv wise Touhou has at least double (or triple) the amount of vocaloid work, I forgot how much, but on NND Vocaloid has about twice as much stuff as Touhou.

Even so though, for online distribution/discussion/works, Touhou is nearly even, if not far more popular in certain ways, despite not getting millions poured into it through advertisements / concerts / commercial appearances due to Vocaloid being the mascot and pet project of a 124-year old multinational corporation. Vocaloid may be better-heard of, but that doesn't necessarily make it more loved or popular; just more forced. Everyone's heard of Mickey Mouse, but that doesn't mean he's still the hot ticket item, he's a mascot. Which is exactly what Miku is, a successful corporate venture that in this case is what's called a halo effect product, as can be so clearly seen from the ultra-buttmad vocaloid fan(s) in this thread rabidly lashing out for little reason. For what it goes up against, Touhou's popularity vs input/effort given is elder god phenomenal; if it was incorporated Touhou could become Pokemon-like in ubiquity. Of course though that'd be the antithesis of what ZUN wants.

>>8525069
>if it was incorporated Touhou could become Pokemon-like in ubiquity
This is what autistic Touhou fans actually believe.

Pokemon-like? What the hell is wrong with you? Touhou was made by and for comiket dwellers. Disgusting, socially maladjusted nerds and NEETs. The game is a shmup, a genre that no normal person likes, and there is so much porn of Touhou. The music is some strange neo-classical blend with Japanese folk influences. Why the fuck would it get mass appeal? You even seem to think that it would be a mass hit among children, which is a LOL.

You think Vocaloid only has "forced" popularity due to sponsorship? No, it skyrocketed to popularity due to normal people enjoying the catchy pop songs and cute characters on their own time. It has a bit of mass appeal in Japan, to the point that many young people know about it, as demonstrated in the NHK special. I posted a screencap earlier.

You haven't even been to Japan. If you have, you would know that >>8522180 is true. Touhou has zero presence outside of its little nerd gatherings. Touhou also has manga and figures sold by legit (non-doujin) companies, and even has concerts, but still hardly anyone gives a shit outside of their fringe (but very vocal) fanbase.

Deal with the fact that Vocaloid is more popular than Touhou. There's so much proof from people who have been to Japan in REAL LIFE, but you still pull up pixiv and google searches like they refute reality.

>>8526099
>No, it skyrocketed to popularity due to normal people enjoying the catchy pop songs and cute characters on their own time.
No, not really, the only people that do that are masochists.

>>8525069
>Pixiv wise Touhou has at least double (or triple) the amount of vocaloid work

Almost five times, to be exact.

>>8526099
Kids dig Touhou, didn't you know? You've seriously never witnessed all the jokes about grade-schoolers buying Touhou doujinshi? Quite a lot of people bitched (still bitch?) about them in Japan, "raiding our mature elite doujin community" and such. Almost half of Touhou fans are underage. Blame Niconico. You know, the same mainstream online video site that made Vocaloid into what it is now.

>>8522180
>Sapporo even has a small section dedicated to it for their yearly Snow Festival.

Haha I've been to that shit, I live in west Hokkaidou.

As for the debate, this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Who cares? Miku sells through mainstream while Touhou sells through derived works. I bet at least 50% Vocaloid fans are fans of other vocaloids and not Miku, and over 50% of Touhou fans don't play the games.