/jp/ - Otaku Culture

"already filmed their performance"
hah
fucking
hah

>>8501561
>Has a /jp/ music act ever been on a US talk show?

On a major national talk show ... Nope.

Does Happatai count? They were on Jimmy Kimmel.

what if miku on SNL
...what if miku host SNL

Seriously, how shameless will this massive cross board advertising get?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG3rbcGWwdA

>>8501622
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG3rbcGWwdA

That is more comedy than a real music act. Has there been a 'real' /jp/ music group/singer on a US talk show.

I know in the past like in the 70s, there were a few Japanese singers who tried to crossover to the US.

But has there been recent ones like in the last 10-20 years?

>>8501561
Fuck you, Kimchi.

>>8501638
Wait, SNSD is a musical act? I thought it was about pretty girls.

>>8501649
There are Touhou games.

キムチ悪いｗｗ

>Has a /jp/ music act ever been on a US talk show?

Yatta! was performed on a US talk show.

>>8501608
>>what if miku on SNL.
>>what if miku hosted SNL

Now this sounds awesome. I'd definitely go meet Miku at the airport.

>>8501667
those are joke/comedy acts which isnt the same as Girls Generation.

The 'Pink Lady' were on tons of american talk shows in the 70s/early 80s. But I cant think of any japanese music groups/singers else besides them

>>8501686
what if they genetically engineered a person to look like miku or other 2D girls? would anyone else survive

>>8501750
Is that sexy bitch wearing a motherfucking Popeye shirt?

>3) Girls Generation will on Live with Kelly Ripa on 2/1. Howie Mandell will be co-hosting with Jennifer Lopez as the lead guest.

>4) SNSD will also have a fan-signing at the big BestBuy store in NYC on 2/2
http://www.facebook.com/BestBuyUnionSquare

>How will SNSD do on all these American TV shows? And if you are near NYC, why didnt you go meet them at the airport, or are going to the Letterman show, or see them at their fan-signing?

This does not sound like blatant advertizing at all. Are are a real dumb fuck huh, OP?

reported for advertizing and off topic discission

>>8501561

Mentioning K-anything anyway, anytime and putting it above anything Japanese is automatic faggoty. Have fun with your dicks OP.

>>8502056
maybe because that shit doesn't belong here

Miku and snsd are not /jp/ related, so... NO
Reported for your idol shit.

3d whores.
I hope some sad obsessed asian fanboy rapes and murders at least two of them.
The others can live the rest of their lives in fear of it happening to them.

>>8502073
>Miku and snsd are not /jp/ related, so... NO

Girls Generation has the #5 best selling album in Japan in 2011. To show you how popular SNSD is in Japan, they were invited to perform at Kohaku in 2011.

>>8502195

Do you see us talking about shitty Japanese bands?

No?

Why the fuck would we talk about shitty gook bands?

>>8502195
/jp/ - Japan/General

>>8501914
Taeyeon

Fuck off.

Who are these people?
reported.

>>8502195

>#5 best selling album in Japan

Zainichi Korean...OINK

Deal with it.jpg

>>8502195
>Girls Generation has the #5 best selling album in Japan in 2011
And? Lady Gaga was number 4 and Avril Lavigne was number 13. They aren't /jp/ related. Neither is your korean shit.

"Live With Kelly" is on right now on ABC. Stream below

http://www.stream2watch.me/live-tv/abc-live-stream

February is my favorite month

fuck off kimchi

>>8501561
...Sorry but I don't think this is /jp/ related stuff.
Maybe this is more >>>/int/ related.
So, please go to >>>/int/ .

The Worst Music I've Ever Heard!

>>8502073
Miku has doujin and herself was made IN JAPAN by YAMAHA and CRYPTON, both localised on JAPAN.
So, /jp/ related.

That girls generation is Korean-pop, so related on japan as Lady Gaga are related to Japan. So, not /jp/ related.

>k-pop

>>8503208
Howie: Your english is good.
Fany: I was born here
Howie: Your english is good
Fany: Thank yoooou I practiced sooo hard

Best Top 3 SNSD songs

1) Time Machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw0foIiqBBM
2) Genie (Japanese Version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDJXzBSxrIM
3) Run Devil Run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_gfD3nvh-8

>>8502080
Holy fuck dude, you're hardcore as shit. I'd hate to run into you in a dark alley! Watch out for this guy, everyone!

>>8503326
If this is the best this group can shit out, imagine their worst songs.
Good lord, it's the same garbage I'd listen on MTV every day for the past 10 years, the difference being that I wouldn't be caught dead gushing over them.
Then again, it's no secret that the whole "koreaboo" nonsense is still just a roundabout way of spiting "weeaboos" (see how every KPop thread is worded, you can feel the insecurity and the longing for self-validation in every word), so it's not like quality or talent ever played a role in this matter.

>>8503348
I think you're reading far too much into this.

You don't have to hate anything Korean just because your Nihonian overlords do, you know. It makes you come off as trying way too hard. Which you are.

>>8503365
Nope OP, unlike you I don't have the autism necessary to give a shit about either countries, which I why I would never glorify such throwaway garbage.

gtfo

SNSD astroturfing a shit

>>8503373
Not the OP, but feel free to keep making incorrect assumptions because you can't come up with a decent supporting argument.

I wonder how much it cost to buy the time on Letterman

>>8503348
Their songs are written by the same soulless American producers that shit out the stuff on MTV, so it's no surprise that you feel that way.

>>8503365
The points is Korean shit belongs on /v/

>>8503390
They just got to lip-synch one of their terrible songs at tail end of the show. I always call that part the "shilling part" since the slot is always rented out to a bunch obscure bands I've never heard of and in desperate need of self-promotion.

In the end, it probably costed them nothing.

>>8503400
>a bunch obscure bands I've never heard of

You a big music buff there, friend? If YOU have never heard of them they must be obscure and whoring for attention, right? Makes sense. They should get more good bands that everyone has heard of, like Linkin Park! I like the way you think.

>>8503400
>a bunch obscure bands

As this anon said >>8503415, Girls Generation is hardly obscure especially in the age of Youtube.

>>8503415
Actually, I'm in some way happy that David is paying attention to all those miserable hopefuls and their bad songs. I just feel bad that he has to feign surprise and interest when it comes to promoting their CDs.
Just don't think it's a honor to rent a throwaway slot that is generally used by country singers who are literally unknown outside of their state.

>>8503433
Wow, you sure do know your stuff man! I also like the sage, its a nice touch. Gives that whole "I don't even give a fuck" vibe to your post. Rockin'.

But now I'm curious - what kind of music do you listen to? You know so much about the intricacies of the industry, you must be a big music fan. What are a couple of your favorite bands?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGbwL8kSpEk

>>8503427
>specially in the age of Youtube

This one always kills me.
Since when YouTube freakshows being popular on the Internet (especially if thanks to intense astroturfing and botnets inflating YT views) do necessarily translate into real life popularity?
If this were true, we would've already had a Tay Zonday world tour and who knows what else.

>>8503449
Problem, gooky?

>>8503469
You sure told him good.

There is the smell of a garlic in this thread lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4-SxcCO5d0

>>8503469
Oh, so you only listen to Touhou remixes and in fact know nothing about music? You've been talking out of your ass this entire time? What a shock! And here I was, thinking I was talking to a real life internet music expert! What a letdown.

Also, cool insult! My awesome friends on /b/ use it all the time! Its epic!

>>8501692
Kyu Sakamoto had the Japanese-language song "Sukiyaki" that peaked at #1 (!) in the 60s. That and Pink Lady's "Kiss in the Dark" are the only two songs ever by Asian musicians to hit the top 40. Maybe Girls Generation can be the third. I wonder why it's so hard for Asian acts to break through in North America anyways?

>>8503507
>Sukiyaki" that peaked at #1 (!) in the 60s. That and Pink Lady's "Kiss in the Dark"

This was in the 60's and 70's.

It is the year 2012 and no Japanese (or Korean) music act has done anything since then. And I really dont see any Japanese music act doing anything significant in the future.

>>8503449
Ah, I see. That's the old trick of "tell me your tastes so I'll start insulting you based on them rather than addressing the argument".
Sorry, but I'm not falling for a childish logical fallacy like this one. Coming from someone who's trying to defend such a joke of a girlgroup I would just take it as a compliment anyway.

>>8503520
Oh the ironing.

>>8501647
>>8501659
>>8502056
>>8503045
>>8503263
>>8503291
>>8503297
>>8503469
ネトウヨまじきもいな

>>8503507
Asian musical acts don't really care about North American markets unless it's for some sort of self-validation like in this case: when taking this into account, it's really no surprise that the entire KPop industry has been reshaped to look like a piss-poor carbon copy of Backstreet and Pussycat Dolls. Now they are trying to break into NA just so that Big Papa United States can give South Korea a pat on the head and tell them what a good doggy he has been.

>>8503520
I'm not trying to defend anybody. I just thought you were making broad, baseless claims about how the music industry works and that perturbed me. I was interested in what someone that claims that bands who perform on Letterman are obscure (lol!) listens to. It would give me a little more insight into where you're coming from. I didn't intend to insult anything.

But go ahead and dodge the question, interpreting everything I said in a way that makes me look foolish and you look right. Thats how you generally win silly internet arguments, right? Who am I to burst your little bubble?

Heard a few of their songs. Not sure why this is a big deal, they seem no different from any given american pop idol, except cuter.

2ne1 > BYG >>>>>>>>>>> Shit > snds

>>8503556
>Not sure why this is a big deal, they seem no different from any given american pop idol, except cuter.

Then explain why the Japanese love Girls Generation so much?

>>8503569
How would I know?

>>8503569
Japanese people love Korean dramas
If you ever went to tsutaya you would see 1000 of korean dvd dramas
but its kind of going away , they arent that popular anymore

>>8503547
That's not how the music industry works, dearie, that's how the music segment of David Letterman's show works. Obscure publicity-craving groups rent that slot for what I can only guess is a flat fee and they get their marginal two minutes of attention in return, provided that the viewers don't switch the program sooner since the segment is thrown at the end of the show as a mere afterthought.
How many unknown soul singers and country musicians have passed on that stage? More than I and David can possibly remember, that's sure. I would say this is more than enough evidence to firmly state that it's not a place of honor but just an empty space for lesser-known bands to get some shameless plug from an old codger, in case they lack a more prestigious platform that would give them the time of the day.

>>8503569
see >>8503147

>>8503574
>Japanese people love Korean dramas

Except that the target demographics is old ladies who have hit menopause many years ago.
I wouldn't even say they "love" anything. At that age you would just watch anything the TV airs, as long as it fills your day.

>>8503607
there are many old women who love them , but you would bu surprised how many young girls are crazy after korea , because of the dramas , 2011 was the korean boom in Japan, but its fading slowly

>>8503544
>piss-poor carbon copy
Loled at monkey ignorance.

Seo Taiji started the modern boy band thing WAY before the USA.

>>8503617
>Trying to show the truth to a stupid monkey
It's useless.

>>8503626
You're right, the whorish imagery, the in-your-face swagger, the gratuitous autotune, the brain-numbing electronica that became a staple in literally every KPop band in the last 5 years clearly aren't inspired by bad American pop music from the early '90s. It's just my impression, Koreans are so original and innovative, nida.

Also, what you are namedropping is a rock composer. By that logic, I might say that Johnny Kitagawa created boybands back in the '70s but I'm not that stupid. Korea was an underdog country back then and it still is nowadays, nobody ever heard to this guy before now or at least not the world at large, saying that the Korean music industry is not a victim of foreign fads is outright delusional, period.

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/101east/2012/01/201212673348120626.html

A short documentary about the K-pop scene.

Even Korean music execs recognize that K-pop is basically a commercialized, factory industry, however disciplined and skilled their performers may be.

Japan used to be like this until the international J-pop appeal started to die down. New genres are being explored, and Japan is practically the only country outside of the Anglo-German sphere that has a substantial post-modern music scene. The likes of Merzbow and Japanese math rock is highly recognizable in the most hipster of music communities. Korea might follow this path, but the pop sensation has yet to die down so it might continue for some time.

Also, idol threads, regardless if they're Japanese or not, is always not /jp/ related.

>>8503687

meant to say

>[idol threads] are always /jp/ related.

>>8503687

I'd say J-pop is becoming more and more obscure and unmarketable outside of otaku culture. Loli-voice is extremely popular in doujin circles but it would make normals cringe.

How come no one has called them out on their viral marketing?
Am I the only one who notices the copypasted comments from youtube in the 200 reply threads that get posted each time this bands releases a new song, not to mention the botted viewcount in their videos?

>>8503722

ステマ：'ステ'ルス'マ'ーケチング
Sutema: 'Stea'lth 'M'arketing

Next time you want to call out viral, you should spam the thread with 'Sutema' so it's at least /jp/ related.

>>8503699
jpop is ONLY popular in Japan and no place else. jrock is somewhat popular outside Japan but it is still very niche.

say what you want about kpop, it getting more 'notice' in the US/West than jpop has every gotten (blah blah, in the 60's some Japanese song made it #1 on the US).

>>8503730

>jpop is ONLY popular in Japan and no place else

Firstly, I'm talking solely about the Asian market.

And no, J-pop is/was extremely popular in the East Asian hemisphere. Fashion trends for young Chinese women used to come from J-pop culture, I thought everybody knew this?

Secondly, the Japanese market is not otaku culture. I'm talking about the viability of loli-voice in the mainstream Japanese market.

>>8503730
k-pop sounds exactly like the shit US churns out, maybe that's the reason?

besides koreans like to inflate the popularity of these shitty girlbands

>>8503734
I would normally just laugh at you guys for hating Korea for nonsense reasons and their feuds with Japan, but I've noticed this is true.
They have their own internet defense force on the level of the JIDF I am sure.

>>8503730
>jpop is ONLY popular in Japan and no place else

If you consider the whole eastern Asian sphere as Japanese.

>say what you want about kpop, it getting more 'notice'

No wonder, Koreans pretty much shove it down your throats if you like it or not. The whole Youtube fiasco is exemplary for that.

The whole 'boom' died pretty quickly after Youtube banned thousands of bots.

>>8503734

>besides koreans like to inflate the popularity of these shitty girlbands

Koreans are extremely prideful of their increasing prominence on the world stage, especially after being culturally emasculated by China thoughout ancient history, and Japan throughout the 20th century.

The South Korean government even has a Ministry dedicated to increasing the brand value of Korea. Meanwhile, the "cultural mascot" of Japan is Doraemon, a character that is absolutely unmarketable outside of Asia.

South Korea has more international awareness, or depending on your point of view, panders to their US masters more than the Japs do.

>>8503743
you forgot to link this video
its always funny to see it :3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOCQ9AQyP0

>>8503738

>nonsense reasons and their feuds with Japan

The only people who have "feuds" with Japan are the following:

- Old people
- Korean emigrants who are not aware of the cultural/economic interdependence of Japan and Korea
- ultranationalists who would sacrifice doves to express their hatred for Japan
- internet tough guys

>>8503747
>the "cultural mascot" of Japan is Doraemon

Japan also has Pokemon and Hello Kitty, you don't get more marketable than that.

>>8501686
People would turn it off once the robot started singing

>The whole 'boom' died pretty quickly after Youtube banned thousands of bots.
Knowing lying monkey is common sense.

>>8503747
>South Korea has more international awareness
To be fair Japan doesn't really need to market itself or its culture as can be witnessed by the sheer volume of popular references. Ninja or samurai crap are as popular as ever amongst normalfags to name a few. S-Korea on the other hand is a country no one has heard of culturewise, so it's no wonder that it has to market itself and even manufacture fake shit to compensate for its lack of culture and history. The result of all this is S-korea's unoriginality in everything they make.

>>8503762

Speaking from personal experience, a larger percentage of Koreans are more nationalist and ethnocentric than Japanese people.

Not to say that there aren't any good-hearted Koreans who lead well-integrated, balanced lives in the West.

I'm just pointing out the fact that the Japanese supremacism is pretty much a domestic phenomenon exclusive to Japan, unlike Chinese/Korean nationalism in the Western hemisphere.

>>8503776
Sorry monkey but the MK has no culture.

Samurai and ninja are monkey fantasies that never existed.

>>8503783
>Japanese supremacism is pretty much a domestic phenomenon exclusive to Japan
I'd go as far as to say that it's exclusive to 2ch. The huge majority of Japanese people don't give a fuck about S-Korea or its people according to BBC polls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOCQ9AQyP0
1.Copying a thing
2.Adding some alterations
3.Changing the name
4.Claiming they they invented it

>>8503776
>Ninja or samurai crap

But everyone knows Glorious Corea invented all those things!

They also invented Pizza:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiLA6Bk_ivs
America: www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEba68tEuFw&feature=related
and Jesus: www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEba68tEuFw&feature=related

>>8503776
>The result of all this is S-korea's unoriginality in everything they make.
The monkeys sure are criative aren't they.
No wonder their country is overaged and has learned for twenty generations to do nothing but looking up to the Western models and copy them.

>>8503736
>I'm talking about the viability of loli-voice in the mainstream Japanese market.

You mean singing in falsetto? Scaring away casual listeners?
Nonsense.
It used to be greatly popular among idols and female singers alike, at least until the early Nineties. All you need to do is take a song from the Showa age and it'll be instantly evident what I'm meaning.
Mainstream idol groups still do it to some extent and this fact alone doesn't result in a contraction of the fan base (incidentally, what happens is the opposite - an expansion into young and young "adult" demographics).
Although those that could are fleshing out their repertorie with many other genres (ballads, enka, rock, electronica) which of course employ different vocal ranges.
Not a deciding factor, honestly, unless your casual listener is a braindead jock who judges songs according to how "so gay" they are.

>>8503803
>Jesus: www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEba68tEuFw&feature=related

Sorry, wrong link. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHtJ8pzz27Y&feature=related

>>8503807
>Ranma 1/3
Hahaha holy shit, are you serious?

>>8503772

I was referring to Doraemon's official recognition by the Japanese government as its "cultural diplomat."

>>8503776

>compensate for its lack of culture and history

Korea does have a longer history than Japan. The thing is that Japan had a two century headstart in marketing its traditional culture to the West, due largely to the Meiji regime's international ambitions. Anything with an Asian aesthetic is pretty much either "Japanese or Chinese" in the Westerner's point of view, so Koreans are very much limited to K-pop to market their culture.

>>8503807

What's your point? I can post videos like this too >>8503803, but I don't because everybody knows that it's a strawman that belongs on /int/ or /pol/.

If you want to continue being a quality /jp/ poster without having your idol threads sagebombed, please start acting more civilized.

>>8503823
lol

>>8503799
Yeah I'm sure knights and vikings didn't exist either. Protip: look up the word romanticization.

>>8503827
>>8503806
Glorious nippon is way ahead on the pakuri.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u4kNEvp7xA

>>8503738
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VANK

>>8503820
Name one big cultural achievement S-Korea has gotten. One thing that has made the world aware of Korea's presence. And before you say Samsung or SNSD, oh fucking god let me laugh at you.

I can't think of any famous Korean person.

>>8503835
No seriously, samurai were just peasants and ninja didn't exist.
Now go back to suck your glorious nippon cock.

>>8503828

>Anything with an Asian aesthetic is pretty much either "Japanese or Chinese" in the Westerner's point of view, so Koreans are very much limited to K-pop to market their culture.

This. I feel sorry for Koreans. Look at the tripfag KING OF /jp/, he spams nothing but Korean idols because that's the only thing internationally recognized as "Korean." Even if Korea starts exporting manhwa 50 years from now, it will always be recognized as "manga from Korea."

>>8503828
whats wrong with the videos is pretty funny if you consider Korea is claiming they invented Pokemon and Samurais lol

dont take me wrong, but its funny to see how far a country can go with claiming that they invented 99% of the world.


Whats next ? Obama is Korean? Korea should join Europe Union , because Korea belongs to europe?

>>8503854
Such a bold claim you made there. I'm sure you have all the evidences backing up those claims? Burden, proof, lies, you, etc.

>>8503848
>I can't think of any famous Korean person.
Maybe because you are a monkey?

>>8503854

I'm not even Japanese and I know that the samurai class were of a different caste than the peasants.

>>8503848

>I can't think of any famous Korean person.

I bet more people know about the Kim regime than Lee-Myung Bak.

>>8503854
No, ninjas were just peasants and samurai were just like their western knight/caste counterpart: dirty, gross, self-involved classist dicks.

>>8503828
>Korea does have a longer history than Japan.
Then why the fuck do they have to claim that some things are originated by them, when they're clearly not?

>>8503828
>that it's a strawman

Eh, sorry, but those things are 'common knowledge' in Korea. Their real culture would flourish if they'd put the same effort into it as in claiming foreign things.

>>8503870
>Lee-Myung Bak.
Who the fuck is this lol. Well actually the only one I know is Ban Kim Moon.

Why are gooks so full of hate for anything they cannot understand ?

>>8503803
>>8503807
It's nice to the monkey trying to bring down the Korean image with FAKE or distorted videos.

>You can easily know that how eagerly, systemetically Japanese are doing something 'Dirty works' to put down images of Korea on youtube when you see some threads related Korea on 2ch site of Japan. Even they were so glad of making a Kpop music clip of ten million views deleted. Surely they have a special team for youtube and I've even heard that they have supported some money from some right-wing companies
>They are doing anyting they can do with any sauces can make Korea depreciated. Korea's football,politics, plastic surgery, Kpop..etc..They've disorted everything. Koreans call this acting "HUMHAN"

>>8503874
Japan's distortion of history does not really mean to think properly taught. Japan is worried about the future.

>>8503873

Please, you WISH you could beat some dirty peasants for my not providing their crop.

Why everyone looks up to the pathetic proles in history instead of the awesome upper classes now a days boggles my mind.

>>8503876
Just like the Monkey island?>>8503799

>>8503874
because Korea invented everything

Koreans landed on the moon first and they will be the first to land on mars

Are we really having a Korea vs. Japan thread?

REALLY? Stop fucking responding. Hide the thread

>>8503882
Why monkeys always make a lie?

Not sure why gooks even bother visiting /jp/ if they hate Japan so much. Oh wait..

>>8503895
Why make gooks always an Engrish?

日本　パクリ大国

＞In 1932, a controversial plagarism was caught and condemned by an article in the Japanese magazine "New Young Adult", Gouga's "Sakewa Namitaka Tameikika" was blamed for copying off the work of Korean composer Su-Lin Jeon, which his version was named "The Calm Jang-Ahn". This event triggered a wave of Korean musicians to flourish with talented composers such as Nan-Pa Hong, Gyo-Sung Kim, Yong-Hwan Kim, Joon-Young Kim, Ho-Wol Moon, Mok-In Son, Shi-Choon Park , and Jae Ho Lee becoming the very foundation of Trot music in its early stage.

>>8503899
>>8503902
>monkey forcing "gook" as perjurative for Koreans.
Monkeys sure are pathetic.

>>8503874

>Then why the fuck do they have to claim

I'm not a Korean apologist, I'm an ethnic Chink/Jap. And to answer your question

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VANK

>An About.com spokesman, relating his company's decision to use the name "East Sea" to refer to the body of water, stated that they chose to use the name "not necessarily because it agreed with the South Korean geography activists but because the e-mail bombardment was annoying." It was reported in the Asia Times Online that they received as many as 20 e-mails per day regarding this issue from VANK.

Koreans naturally have a strong opinion about these things because the social environment of South Korea fosters fierce competition.

>>8503877

I know you're being rhetorical, but that doesn't really excuse your need to ask "who is this" on the internet.

>>8503884

>Japan's distortion of history

1. The Chinese, specifically the Communist regime was the first to censor Japanese war crimes from academic curriculum. Mao wanted everybody to forget the war and focus on building a lasting relationship with Japan.
2. The Japanese liberal movement for the recognition of Japanese war crimes far precedes similar movements in China or Korea, mostly because Japan was in a better economic condition to foster academic growth.
3. People like Iris Chang are the reason why Westerners see all Asians as racists. Her movement was based entirely on emotion and basically flew in the face of legitimate dialogue. She didn't even have the guts to learn Japanese and communicate with Japanese academics because she harbored the age-old beliefs about Chinese-Japanese rivalry and the oriental victim-complex, all the while disregarding my point number 1 and the fact that the Chinese people were single-handedly more responsible for more Chinese destruction of culture than any other nation.

I don't know why I'm replying to this thread.

>>8503917
At this point I can't even tell if the guy is trolling. I feel like it's a troll but I'm never sure with these Japan vs Korea arguments.

>>8503917
>perjurative

You English very good speak.

mk vs gooks , hehehe. Well It was fun

>>8503923

Also, I'm not defending nationalist revisionism of the Japanese hard right. I'm saying that Japan, like all countries, has a more diverse academic opinion on these things than what regular /jp/ers think.

>>8503762
>>8503807
Hyundai was conceived first. The one who made the video also claims that all the examples he showcased were called by Korea as their own when only 2 were proven. He also cherrypicks like hell. I mean seriously, taking crappy bootlegs that nearly every country produces and using those as examples? The worst part is the comments. Piece of shit blind nationalistic pigs.
The Japanese also owe their having language to the Koreans and the Chinese, I think. It's a great country with its own merits but that faggot needs to take his head out of his ass.

>>8503924
Gook was never a pejorative for Koreans, monkey.

>>8503937
>trying to refute someone by pasting some youtube comment that didn't even refute the video
My lil gook can't be this silly

>>8503950
How it didn't refute?
Stop using fallacies, monkey.

>>8503937
Hyundai != Hyundai Motor Company
Honda = Honda Motor Company

Hyundai Motor Company was founded almost 20 years after Honda.

>>8503807
>Apple iPhone
>one of the most innovative electronic products in human history

Is that some reverse troll trying to make Korea look good?

>>8503937

Taking a youtube video seriously is like trying to prove a point on the Opposing Views forum of Stormfront. Also I sincerely doubt that anybody on /jp/ is truly sympathetic to either cause. You're preaching to the choir.

Things everybody on /jp/ should have known:

*Japan owes a lot of its culture to China and Korea
*Japan is responsible for more exportation of Asian culture than Korea, and as such, the Japanese brand is more valued and recognized than both China or Korea
*Like the Japanese copied American designs when its auto industry was in its infancy, the same is happening in Asia; Chinese/Korean companies are not particularly known to respect patent laws, and their respective governments really have no incentive to enforce such law because it would be detrimental to their booming economies
*People should start ignoring nationalist trolls both IRL and the internet

>>8503966
you missed the point of the video

Monkey is an ethnical slur invented by Germany for inhabitants of the British Islands, particularly for the English.

Stop stealing our slur words, Korea.

>>8503968
>Japan owes a lot of its culture to [...] Korea
Haha, what?

>>8503968
>*Japan owes a lot of its culture to China and Korea
I agree with China.

>>8503968
ofc its just a few trolls.
But the fact that Powermon exists makes laugh hard lol

>>8503977
>Gook is a derogatory term for East Asians which came to prominence in reference to enemy soldiers. U.S. Marines serving in the Philippines in the early 20th century used the word to refer to Filipinos. The term continued to be used by American soldiers stationed around the world to refer to non-Americans. It acquired its current status as a racial slur at the time of the Vietnam War
Stop stealing American words, monkey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lu8RwvnJpM

Korean animation at its finest. Damn those Japs for stealing Gundam from Corea!

>>8503978
They exportet ceramic amphorae to Japan. Imagine Japan without ceramic amphorae.

>>8503977
>Monkey is an ethnical slur invented by Germany for inhabitants of the British Islands
Hahaha
Once a island monkey, always a island monkey.

>>8503979
Lets stop the trolling for a second and the jokes

yeah we could agree China and Japan do share many things together from ancient past.

But to claim Korea did ever invent something is just pure trolling to make people laugh.
Its becoming allready a country joke that Korea invented everything

>>8503978
>>8503979

Korea was highly influential in the transmittance of Chinese culture to Japan, as it was in a geographically advantageous position to do so. I have no comment on how the culture UNIQUE to Korea was responsible in influencing Japan, if at all, because it's a dumb point to argue.

Anyway, my point was about transmittance. Like how the Muslims are responsible for paper-making in Europe-- the Chinese technology that proliferated the Arab countries, making its way to the Maghreb, then to Europe, is directly the result of the Muslim civilization.

>>8503985
So, monkey is a slur word for Germans? Shit, make up your mind.

>>8503987
Stop being such a hypocrite, jjokbari.

That animation was made almost at same time as the original Gundam.

>>8503994

refer to my post
>>8503999

>>8504000
>hypocrite
how was he hypocritical in his post. do you even know what this word means?

>That animation was made almost at same time as the original Gundam.
your point??

>>8503987
my sides lol

this is now a Korea joke thread


>We space now

>>8503972
Yeah, well, the point basically falls apart if you know Koreans were actually making iPhone-like touchscreen phones before Apple - how can you trust any other example in the video is factually correct when it fucks up like that right at the beginning?

>>8504010
You are really stupid aren't you?
No wonder you are called monkey.

>>8504021
>ad hominems when he can't argue for shit
Humor me more loser

>>8504024

You're also a sore loser for arguing with him.

>>8504024
Fucking retard, it's hipocrisy because AT THE TIME japs had the same quality of animation.
Just die monkey.

>>8503685
>nida
IT'S MIDA YOU RETARDED MONKEY WITH PIG FEET.

Aikawa Kozue replied to my comments on stream and now I can't take this smile off my face. Goddamn.

>>8504029

I really dislike people like you. It only takes a few people with strong opinions like yourself to destroy the efforts of Japanese and Korean academics who have dedicated their years of work to intercultural understanding.

What have you got to gain? Westerners are never going to see Korean animation as "Korean animation," they'll simply see it as anime made in Korea, or manga made in Korea. Westerners are never going to recognize Korean culture on the same level as Chinese or Japanese culture as long as extreme people like you exist.

The more you push your point of view, the more isolated and insular Korean culture will become. It's like you're some Korean JIDF trying to reverse troll your own culture. I seriously don't get why you have to do this shit.

Fuck off.

>>8504029
>it's hipocrisy because AT THE TIME japs had the same quality of animation.
Ahaahahahahah... ahahahah, ok. Firstly let's ignore the funny fact that Koreans shamelessly plagiarized Gundam by making that animation short, secondly the first Gundam was made 1979

And this is sally the witch, a japanese anime from 1966: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F0xAFaJApk&feature=related

How the fuck is the animation on the same level? It's miles away. There's even a 13 years gap with Gundam being later. Oh wait you're pulling shit out of your ass like usually

>>8504062

I can't even watch old anime like LoGH or Hokuto no Ken because all of the women look extremely masculine. KyoAni and moe has spoiled me.

I really hope they remake LoGH with moe eyes.

>Westerners are never going to recognize Korean culture on the same level as Chinese or Japanese culture as long as extreme people like you exist.
Monkey typical retort:
Projection.

When you will learn that the world doesn't turn around yourself?
When you learn that, I will then finally respect you.

>>8504073

But it's true. There's a reason why we don't have a /ko/ - Korean Culture board.

Tae Kwon Do is a world Korean brand because it is highly standardized. Korean food is also internationally recognized because Kimchi and Bulgogi has a uniqueness to it.

Korean pop, both musical and visual, will not reach the same level of recognition as Tae Kwon Do or kimchi because they are far too deviant from traditional Korean-ness and excessively panders to American musical sensibilities.

>>8504062
>How the fuck is the animation on the same level? It's miles away.
LOL

Stop nitpicking monkey, are you REALLY that hyprocrite?

>>8504083
Put some more effort into your trolling man.

>>8504073

Got job for not getting what he was trying to say. Have fun to be the buttmonkey among the nations without ever realizing where this unpopularity comes from.

And know give me some more monkey insluts without making a valid point. It's the only thing you can do, after all. Just don't expect a reply anymore.

>>8504081
SNDS doesn't represent K-pop as a whole.
It's sounds too Americanized.

I only started to like K-pop when I listed to 2ne1, 3 days ago.
And I know Kpop since it was born.

>>8504090

K-pop by definition heavily utilizes American musical sensibilities. I'd say the only Korean uniqueness in K-pop comes from how disciplined the idols are.

>>8504085
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSRhajnCRc0
Try harder, monkey.

>>8504103
Oh fuck dude you're the best troll ever!!! How did you even manage to find that laggy video for this occasion? Also thanks for bringing that nostalgic opening up, it's time to appreciate godly animation once more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djfL4DS155I

>>8504101
This sounds american?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lsIvYLzzNw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2vFWsRgRrc

>>8504071
>I can't even watch old anime like LoGH
Your loss.

>>8504103
Oh fuck dude you're the best troll ever!!! How did you even manage to find that laggy video for this occasion? Also thanks for bringing that nostalgic opening up, it's time to appreciate godly animation once more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfpx64u-6RA&feature=related

>>8504111

My bad, meant to say "Western," not just necessarily American.

Anyway, as a person who minored in ethno-musicology, anything composed in the standardized Western scale sounds "Western." Nevermind the fact that both videos you listed are heavily influenced by house/dance sensibilities that developed in the Amero-European club scene.

>>8504124
I see nothing godly about it.

>>8504135
>Nevermind the fact that both videos you listed are heavily influenced by house/dance sensibilities that developed in the Amero-European club scene.
You are fucking retarded.
If the first video sounds like anything, it sounds like samba.

>>8504150

I was going to say the first video sounds nothing like samba but I realized I copied the wrong URL.

My bad.

>>8504140
My intention was to make you look like a clueless fucking idiot, and I did just that. My win, bye nerd.

>>8504124
Nice remastered version.

Gooks. Get out.

>>8504168
Thai nigger trying too hard.

>>8504161
show us the original one then

I hope the Koreans get banned from 4chan.

>>8504180
>>8504201
>us
I hope lying monkeys with IQ lower than 80 get banned from 4chan.

>>8504201
there are no koreans in this thread

>>8504259
>>8504259
>>8504259

You do know Kpop stuff belong in /v/ right?

>>8503390

ummm....
Sexual favors?

I stopped caring about SNSD a long time ago. To me their fifteen minutes has already expired.

>>8503293
Vocaloid is a software, you talk about vocaloid on /g/
They are the ones that like miku anyway.
Now get the fuck out of my board, you fuking idolfag.

>>8505512

>my board