/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I don't have time for that shit.

>>8474013
I can't take anyone seriously when they post on 4chan about not having enough time. If you have time to be here, you have time for anything.

>>8474013

What are you doing that's more important?

I'm working on it.

My scribbles have reached the point where they don't have that "children's drawings" look anymore, and I'm trying out accurate anatomy, shading, perspective and all. It's an exciting time.

>>8474016

>My scribbles have reached the point where they don't have that "children's drawings" look anymore

How long did that take?

>>8474018
No I don't, I take a full semester of classes, work 40 hours a week and am learning japanese in my free time. The last thing I want to do is spend my time working on something else I'm not terribly interested in.

I have been drawing since I was born.
I should however, start putting some effort into learning technical skills that would make said drawing more fruitful.

>>8474007
Simple. I'm too lazy and unmotivated. Much easier to waste time on the internet than try and develop a skill.

>>8474020
Hard to say. My total number of drawings are small and scattered over time. I've taken to working at least an hour a day this month, and combined with a collection of .PDFs and some perseverance you make a lot of progress.

I have done as you asked! No more! Can you hear me!?

>>8474069

Any tips for someone beginning?

Because whenever I start I'd just realize how shitty I am and give up.

>>8474097
Draw every day.

Read Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain first, then branch out to other books. Loomis's are among the best.

Sketch a lot of nonsense and try out different techniques quickly. Don't try to make incredible cityscapes or other advanced pieces because it will likely look really shitty, your confidence will go down the drain and you won't draw again for ages. The things you learn from the quick, as-you-go sketches help you more when you have little prior experience.

At first you will probably be intimidated and feel like it's no use, but once you gather a little portfolio and you see your work develop it'll get fun.

Keep in mind, however, I'm also still a beginner. It takes years to get good.

Ima lazy nig

Whenever I do decide to draw I generally make a face or do a rough body sketch. When it's finished I'm usually disgusted with the abomination that I created.

>>8474016
It feels good right? I still am at the child's stage though.

I started practice my draws when I was 11

now they are pretty good already

It only took me 10 years

pic related, not mine but it was something like this

>>8474508
As nice as it is to see how much people progress from seemingly having no talent in the beginning, it's not as motivating when you realize it took 6 years before they started to not look like crap. I don't even want to think about how old I'll be in 6 years.

>>8474508
Oh man you did stalker-chan? I love you for that.

>>8474578
Take your current age (x) and add 6.

x + 6 = y

y being your age in 6 years.

>>8474508
This is real?

>You're never too old to start.

Nope. If you didn't practice consistently below the age of 27 then statistically you're fucked.

OP is evil for instilling false hope in old farts.

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Room:
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Posting more

>>8474611
Is this one actually real or just a joke?

I wish I had artist friends, it's easier to improve when you have someone to compete and share ideas and techniques with.

>>8474097
Boredom is a good catalyst for drawing. Draw whenever you don't have anything to do. It does not have to be pencil on paper. Just do anything related to drawing.

If you want to, invest in a cheapass drawing tablet. Does not have to be expensive, just something you can doodle on when you're wasting time in front of that screen.

Think of it as something you express yourself with at first, don't think of it as something you're working at. It'll make it less tedious. Hopefully.

>>8474620
Does Usotsukiya have one?

I don't have time for that shit, I need to browse jaypee.

I can only destroy! Not create!

>>8474642
I refuse to believe.

Why would I learn how to draw when I can learn Japanese instead?

If I had enough willpower to learn something like that I wouldn't be browsing /jp/.

Even trying to watch anime is pure suffering.

>>8474658
I cannot get myself to do anything. I just sit here and refresh /jp/.

2 year is actually a big thing

if someone wnat to try too

I just can't start drawing because you have to actually draw to get good at it.
Same with music.
If you can't play for shit, you're going to have to play shittily until you get good.

I can never find any good basics and more often than not I end up drawing an abomination.

>>8474665

I don't believe that

>>8474667
Hell no. I don't want to dig through my old art. That would be too horrifying.png.

>>8474665
This kind of image governs hope. If I just stayed at it and documented my progress I'd probably get a lot better too.

>>8474681
Do it. It's fun.

I was not born to draw in the same way some people was not born to sing. I'm scared of creating something like this at artistic level.

Here's my portfolio.

1992-2012

I don't have time to pick up drawing because I'm trying to beat japan at their games.

>>8474667
I lost them ;_;

>>8474702
Wow, I thought I was the only one!

;_;

>>8474702

Anyone else been drawing for years but haven't improved much due to excuses?

I started drawing semi-seriously in 2001 when I saw a classmate draw shit anime and I wanted to become better than her. Been drawing on and off till today and I haven't gotten far at all. Sure I wasted the first 8-9 years on completely dumb shit and only tried proper self instruction recently, but it hasn't helped much.

I am the master of giving excuses and adhd.

>>8474765
>due to excuses
Did you just use excuses as an excuse?

>>8474667
Hell yeah, I found my old works, lets see what I should post...

Someone told me that drawing is the same as writing. Everyone can draw normally like they write, people just cant draw well because they weren't forced to learn to draw like writing

>>8474765

That looks good. You should go to the draw general in /a/ and have someone color that.

>>8474765
Draw me a Remilia.

>>8474667
After looking through all my old drawings I realized I haven't improved since 2008. This is depressing.

>>8474778
The excuses are too numerous! Do you want a list of my excuses? Sorry, I am not interested in making a list.

>>8474783
I hate the draw generals in /a/. It's full of stupid requests, bad art and cock slurping.

>>8474794
T-This is actually good!

>>8474791
I don't take requests. I'm only here because I'm interested in being somebody's art rival. I believe it does some good when you compete with somebody. It's what made me jump from ABSOLUTE SHIT pre-2001 to something decent post 2002, after competing with that girl who draws animu in my class.

Please be my art rival[/spoiler[

>>8474818
I got motivated when i'm competing against someone too!
sadly, you draw too good to be my rival ;_;

I lost my old pictures, but here it is. Never draw again.

Whenever I draw, I look at the finished product and realize: "I've been at it for 8 years, I've obviously hit the plateau". And then I stop drawing for a while. I've basically given up on that. Funny, since just a few years ago, I thought I could make some good shit. Turns out to be one of those dumb childhood dreams we all had.

>>8474888
>Turns out to be one of those dumb childhood dreams we all had.

Like being happy.

>>8474897
And successful, self-sufficient and whatnot. You know all that, I suppose.

>>8474869
>draw too good
NO. I'm not self-deprecating to fish for more compliments either. If you take drawing seriously and compete against a simpleton like me, you'd easily be able to reach my level and surpass it.

I'm not like one of the actual good artists here on /jp/ who seem so unreachable (like magister and the guy who draws things in the style reminiscent of miyazaki)

It could be fun if we rival, you know. What do you say?

I wish I had at least one skill I could be proud of. But no, I wasted my childhood and teenage years playing video games.

I guess I've already grown old and bitter.

>>8474914
What really sucks is when you realize that despite wasting all that time on video games and anime, you're still not particularly good at video games and your anime powerlevel isn't particularly high.

>>8474916
I'm sorry, but your level easily surpasses mine. Well, I suppose it helps that I'm not actually the guy you were responding to, but I like assaulting my hopes of drawing so I never start thinking about doing it again. I got too ambitious years ago and gave up when I couldn't draw what I had envisioned right away.

>>8474914
When I really think about it, I wonder how I'd have turned out if I wasn't introduced to video games and 4chan?

I'd be a normal, I suppose. But I reckon I'd enjoy at least some success in life compared to right now. And at that point wouldn't care about being a normalfag, since I never went to this place anyway. Man, I've made some really bad decisions and life destroying vices in my life... ;_;

>>8474928
Unfortunately, I did, and I do. I must tell you, they're two of the most useless skills you can possibly possess in this lifetime. Like splash. Only all four slots are occupied by it.

>>8474916
Don't you think would be more easy if both of us were tripfags?

>>8474972
What's the point of tripping? This isn't /i/, we'd be drawing in flock or on our own devices. Our drawing style are our own signatures.

>>8474954

>>8474876
why? you're pretty good

why you stopped?

Isn't drawing like..you know..sorta boring?

mine, nothing to draw in 2012, though

>>8475020
and yeah, sorry for low quality pics, i took them with my webcam

I refuse to touch the face and coloring, Im scared

>>8474999
Not enough motivation and too lazy.

>>8475026
>>8475020
The second 2009 looks very interesting.
Could you do a closeup?

>>8475016
Only if you draw while 100% conscious. Most people draw while in a type of trance where time seems to move faster.

>>8475036
sure

I just don't know where to begin, every time I try there's no sense of progression and I'm also afraid people are going to look at my note book and think I'm a faggot for drawing shitty anime pictures.

For one, I can't even draw a consistent stick figure, two I get bored of things rather easy, so if I tried to draw it would go like

1. Practice/learn to draw
2. Draw a few things, get a bit better
3. Get bored, move on to another hobby
4. Eventually might go back to it and have to restart from 1.

I've been wanting to start drawing for a while now, but at 26 years old, I really worry about not ever being able to produce anything worthwhile. I'm willing to put in the time, and I know it would take me probably a decade of constant practice to be able to make anything good, but part of me wonders if >>8474606 is right.

There are some things I think you can learn at any point in life, like languages and most academic subjects, but things like sports, drawing, singing, etc. don't seem that way.

Any artists here start at a late age?

>>8474897
emofag

>>8475055
What am I looking at here? I can't make sense out of anything.

>>8475055
Looks pretty cool.
I wish I had a better picture, or possibly a scan.
If you can provide a picture good enough, perhaps I can up the quality so you can try your hand at digital faces.

>>8475096
Ahaha, I gave this to 10 people, and only one can tell what it is. that person is my best friend.

when I draw this, I was like "FUCK, FUCK EVERYTHING, Lets throw every shit that come into my mind". So I went too far with the detail, and it became this.

Enjoy Cancer. Enjoy aids.

>>8475096
OH, and i forgot to say, its actually an armor, with fancy stuff

>>8475114
Nah, my webcam is the only thing that can capture pics around here, sorry

So did anyone want to be my drawing buddy? I'm getting a little anxious and embarrassed dragging this question around.

>>8475118
Is this a spambot or something?
Would a real person really take the time to say this shit in every damn thread.

>>8475127
Are you the one that drew the ultra-cute cat?
It's very nice, keep on drawing.

I can't be your drawing buddy, because I don't wish to bear an identity on the web, sorry.

>>8475127
I would be, but how do internet people be drawing buddies?

>>8475127
what is a drawing buddy?

But OP, drawing is my job.

I can draw if i put my mind to it, but i find it hard to get in the mood.

>>8475151
How am I supposed to put you in the right mood?

>>8475134
Somebody who has fun drawing with you. We don't necessarily have to work on the same picture simultaneously, but we'd actively encourage each other to draw and stuff like that. Fun isn't the only goal though, we can't just draw dicks all day. Both must engage in constant self improvement but be there for each other when things get rough, that is the basis of a drawing buddy.

>>8475138
Well... that's a good question. It was easier on /i/ since every thread is a draw thread. We'd pick a topic and draw every day.

I'm not really sure about that. Maybe we can't be drawing buddies after all. Unless of course you'd be willing to make some compromises to the security of your anonymity. Or migrate to /i/ from time to time, use a trip and draw in a thread.

>>8475096
alright
red: arms
blue: the body and armor
yellow: er... weapon
the last thing is the lock

I dont feel like telling about stuff on his back because I myself dont even know what they are, LOL

Isn't there any good, streamlined, hold your hand, step by step, learn to draw shit guide anywhere?

>>8475157
If i knew that, i'd be drawing something right now.

>>8475163
Looks like a clusterfuck of shit that belongs in the back of a 15 year old's school-related notebook.

>>8475168
How about you exchange emails and send each other drawings from time to time with commentary.

>>8475179
That won't do. It's such a strange way to communicate and it'd pretty much be "here's my drawing" "here's my drawing". If you have to exchange emails you might as well exchange something more convenient.

>>8475177
you are somewhat right, and I stopped doing that kind of shit. Its embarrasing...

>>8475185
Set up an IRC channel or something.

>>8475207
I don't know the first thing about that.

>>8475168
>Maybe we can't be drawing buddies after all
That's a shame, There's really no way I'm going to trip, let alone go to /i/. I mean, I haven't even been able to motivate myself to contribute to /jp/ OC threads in years.

>>8475207
wait... you mean...

real time chat ?

>>8475230
Everybody knows IRC is for idling.

After realizing that my pics still look like shit after 5 years of drawing, I gave up.
And you should too, anon.
You will never be good.
Never.

I don't know how to draw animu, I generally just do fantasy stuff.

i have and it's HELL on the eyes

>>8475185
>>8475207
I hate to admit this but the only way this art rivalry will work is if both parties joined pixiv, deviantart, tumblr or some other website that allows users to publish art.

I'll link to my account if anyone is interested?

I do draw. Granted I've been going through artblock. Finding time whenever to just sketch out crap on SAI.
Not sure if I want to post anything since this is /jp/ and I draw more original stuff and things from other fandoms.

>>8475264
Definite no for me. I've only ever had an account on CGtalk, and I don't think I'll ever make one again. Especially not on those sites.

>>8475272
What do you have against pixiv? Not like anyone here knows enough about moon to read pixiv comments.

>>8475264
I was thinking about that. I have a dA account but I dropped that shit so long ago and I don't even remember what the user/pass/email i used for it was.

Might make a pixiv account since they have english support now.

I try to draw something and then I see how shitty my drawing ability is and how despite knowing in my head exactly when and how to do the strokes I need to do my fingers only produce crap and I get frustrated and quit and never save anything.

>>8475264
Link your pixiv.

My friend made that one

I jelly as fuck ;_;

I have a disorder that means I can't even write by hand properly, drawing is out of the question.

>>8475272
Are you opposed to a private, password protected irc channel?

It'd just be me and you pretty much. Unless of course somebody else wanted to get into the drawing buddy thing.

omg, I like, so wanna draw, so, everyone add me on Facebook and tell me you liek my drawings everyday <33 ilu guyz~

>>8475288
Have this instead:
http://moedo.tumblr.com/

>>8475245
That is some amazing sprite work.

>>8475312
The fuck

Are there any good tutorials about drawing with a pencil and paper?
Most tutorials seem to work with those fancy tablets and I don't want to invest in such a expensive thing as a total beginner.

I feel so lost... how did you guys start drawing?

>>8475324
here's some more if you want.

I'm currently working on a jrpg/dungeoncrawler type game with a small indie studio, you guys can all pirate it when it's finished.

>>8474667
1387189271827 hours on MS paint

>>8475352
Super fucking sugoi. I can't wait to play.

>>8475330
buy or pirate an Andrew Loomis book, for figure drawing.

That way you can learn to draw correctly, and if you want to, still do anime style stuff on top of it or whatever.

>>8475330
http://www.drawspace.com

I stopped using this site due to laziness. They got plenty of lessions for beginners I believe

>>8475352
Its not pirating if you give it for free

>>8475352

Why not release it for free and ask for donations? If it's actually liked people will pay you.

>>8475366
But it is when the game is being sold for profit.

I had so many good quality drawings, but I lost almost everything, and I stopped drawing... I used to be so good when I was a kid, it's kind of sad now...

>>8475364
the hell? did you get worse going from 2010 to 2011?

>>8475371
certainly that's the approach I'd take for any other kind of software, but that's not really how it works with indie games, people can always pirate them anyway. if they want to buy them, then they'll spend money on it, it's not like it's more than 10 dollars.

>>8475401
2010 might not be OC, but a trace/copy.

>>8474667
I want more /jp/sies to fill this out.

This art rivalry thing won't work unless you're all willing to forgo your anonymity and hangout on websites you're not comfortable with. In my opinion pseudonymous posting is just as good as anonymous posting when it comes to protecting your identity.

Only one website as far as I know forces its users to use real identities and that's facebook. I had the misfortune of having to make an account there for a class project. Try entering a weird username in facebook and they'll automatically lock your account and force you to verify it by phone.

>>8475416
As far as I remember, this wasn't the case when we did that artscow mousepad shenanigan back in 2010.

>>8475411
Once I make a 2012 drawing i'll upload mine as well

>>8475405
Yep, that's right

I copy that

So are we going to do this art rivalry or not? If you're in:
-Start posting your art under a pseudonym so that you can be tracked.
-Give us a link to your pixiv account. If you don't have one make one.

I honestly don't think this would work if we tried to do this anonymously. Is it possible to track someone from their art alone. A beginner's art? I doubt it.

>>8475469
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1667725

I don't have anything posted yet
But i will work on it

>>8475352
I know your stuff from pixeljoint! like anybody cares ;_;

Quite interested into this art rivaly/buddy stuff, can I be the lazy slack who never updates?

OK, I'll play along.

>>8475513
Those rapid fucking improvements. Did you school it or just work your ass off?

>>8475513
woah! I remember you from OC thread

Do you have a pixiv or anything?

>>8475481
From this day on you and I are rivals.

Pixiv: http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3996591
Tumblr: http://moedo.tumblr.com

>>8475498
If you're going to do this your rival will need someway of finding you. A pixiv account would help.

I hope everyone is using this pixiv translation script:
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/65644

Make sure you only have one translation script enabled, multiple scripts will conflict with each other.

>>8475533
>A pixiv account would help.
Okay.

>register
>pixiv ID and nickname

Fuck this pressure. I have ocpd about what names I use for myself online.

>>8475570
The new thing that most websites are doing these days is allowing users to change their username. Just go with a placeholder name for now and change it once you find a better one.

>>8475592
Does it apply to both ID and nickname? What's the difference between those anyway?

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3199340

>>8475533
So you suggest that these will be one on one?
What do you think about group rivaly?

These ones browse /jp/ too:

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=367529
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=500023

>>8475646
forgot ID:
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3958086

>>8475646
Too hard to organize and there's potential for large scale dramashit. The goal here is to just get better at drawing, not host tournaments. If it's just between two people it's easier to deal with.

>>8475646
Group rivalry is cool. After all, it's possible to have more than one rival isn't it.

sorry for my stupidity, but what is the difference between "add to favorites" and "request pixiv"?

I would like to draw but I have extreme lethargy even with anti-depressants and benzos. The only way I ever get things done is asking my mother to force me and nag me to do them. I'm trying to get some Adderall prescribed since I have no connections but no luck so far. I'll try drawing once I get an upper hand. I would so love to participate in this.

>>8475730
Request for Mypixiv is a friend request.

just drew this, do you like it?

>>8475774
No.

This is not a very fair comparison, but whatever. The first picture is me testing out a tablet for the first time in my life, the second is me trying to draw as fast as possible. The rest mostly demonstrate how I like to try different styles.

I'm trying to upload a drawing on pixiv and it's asking me about tags. Are english tags okay or should I find appropriate translations?

I just draw Yuri.

>>8474611
Zun?

>>8475811
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Use reference and copy paste until it becomes muscle memory

>>8475498
Oh wow, I'm so flattered. :3

So I made a pixiv account but nobody drew anything or uploaded anything. What gives?

I'm ready to draw something when you are. We can upload our works as our first submission.

>>8475853
It seems the anxiety caught up.

>>8474765
>>8475299
This is basically me.

I practiced for years, and now I'm decent at best. Still can't handle anything more complicated than simple pen sketches. I used to have a huge complex about this because I've done a bunch of art classes, but now I've more or less accepted that I'll always suck and I keep on drawing once in a while simply because I think it's fun.

Meh, I can draw fine if I use a reference, but any time I try to draw something original it looks like total crap.

Heres my progress of 1 month of on-and-off drawing on paint with a mouse.

1st one is my first drawing ever, then the 2nd is the one i think is my best so far

good?

Here's my attempt at one of these.
2010 was a slow year.

I only trace stuff.

Any attempts at OC turn out as complete shit.

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3993441

I'll start uploading once I get a tablet.

Bump

>>8476001
And when would that be?

>>8476001
I'll remember you and start mass-rating your drawings with 1☆ after you upload them.

>>8476005

Hopefully soon

Any tutorial for drawing anime style?
I have a lor of problems with the body

>>8476259
>a lot of
sorry...

I do good

9000 hours in MS Paint.

bump

>>8476658

Is /jp/drawan still alive?

>>8476259
Learn proper anatomy and then start breaking the rules.

thanks op u ispire me to pick up brush/

>>8476698
Nevermind I checked, it's still dead. By dead I mean everyone are just idling there.

>>8476259
Anime isn't a style. Even if it was, it's no excuse to ignore anatomy.

Draw human bodies until you get the hang of it. 3d porn is good source of reference material, if not much else.

>>8476750
why only 3D porn?

why we can't copy 2D porn ?

>>8476755

>>8476750
Ok I think i'm gonna try
But i don't want to draw 3D porn ;_;

>>8476755
Same reason you don't save the same jpg several times over, only with anatomy instead of artifacts.

>>8476756
http://www.posemaniacs.com/thirtysecond

Fine too. You'll get a clear view of the muscles as well.

I have absolutely zero artistic ability. I bought a tablet to try to start drawing and instantly regretted it, it's been gathering dust ever since.

>Hey /jp/ why don't you start drawing?
i will anon, some day i will

>>8476770
Just so you know, this'll only take you so far. Learning anatomy isn't copying what's in front of you. It's understanding how every single body part relates to each other.

And try and be as loose as possible and don't get caught up in details to begin with. You'll seriously be hampering yourself otherwise, and a lack in progression might kill your motivation to carry on.

>>8476777
>some day i will
Start now, or you'll be telling yourself that indefinitely.

Because I feel that as an American I can not draw my favorite things without looking like a 12 year old Deviantart weeaboo.

I've tried OP, believe me I've tried, I've been trying since I was ten. I've never been able to produce anything even worth glancing at.

So what kind of tablet is good for starting out? I began doodling a couple of days ago and all the paper is starting to pile up, which ticks me off since I'm a neat freak.

>>8476894
Buy some cheap Wacom Bamboo, like everyone else.

>>8476772
What kind of tablet is it? Depending on your answer you may have to resell it to me. Been looking for a new tablet since 2009.

Here you are /jp/. This is about the extent of my ability with a laptop touchpad.

>>8477174
impressive

What should I draw, /jp/?

>>8476894
Go buy a sketchbook.

>>8477233
Anything with Saten-san and i would love you~

>>8477241
Who said I'll post what I drew?

>>8477265
God spake unto me and said you would

I need to draw more :/ It has been a long time. I could of been pretty decent if I continued practicing.

pretty interesting captcha I got...
drawen some

>>8477272
God don't know shit.

>You're never too old to start.

If you don't start when you're 6 years old you'll never develop the skills necessary to be a good artist.

>>8476855
>You'll seriously be hampering yourself otherwise, and a lack in progression might kill your motivation to carry on.

Why didn't anyone tell me this years ago?

>>8477346
Because back then people only saw your potential and thought your skill was only going to grow from there.

>>8477358
Sadly, you'd be right. Now my skills have atrophied to the point that I'm a little worse than I was before I took drawing classes.

Those timeline progression images in this thread are hilarious. I really hope you guys don't find basically no improvement over the course of a decade inspiring.

Love, /ic/.

>>8477410
/jp/ doesn't progress. We stagnate in our comfort zone.

>>8477410
>artwork/critique
So, do you guys actually draw?

Mainly because I have no idea where to start, but I'd like to learn.

Maybe now would be a good time to ask, "How do I create drawings the computer?" been drawing in trusty pencil and ink for 8 years so I think it's time I learn this. Really, I haven't gotten any cramps but "Computer Drawings" just seem more refreshing.

>>8477454
If you asked in 2006/2007, I would have said yes.

Now, however...

And, just to be clear, I don't mean to shit on anybody in this thread. I didn't really read the whole thing, but just noticed the first several progression images at the top of the thread. If you really do want to improve, don't stick to ugly animu, because you won't get anywhere. Slowly.

>>8477461
Just bought my Bamboo Connect. It's like U$100 in my country, maybe less. It's pretty cool to use, just download Photoshop, get a serial from Google-san and doodle.

>>8477410
Took some time for someone to say this
If you really gave it your all, it should take less than 2 years to learn to animu

>>8477470
Don't start with photoshop, start with SAI.
You don't need brushes/effects/bullshit for a long time anyway.

>>8477470
How does the connect feel? Thinking of getting one.

>>8477466
I don't have the motivation to draw or paint anything that isn't animu. I only want to learn shortcuts and tricks to produce acceptable mass production grade animu.

>>8477466
But I just want to draw animu.

>>8477480
What if I just do stupid shit on PS? Is it bad?
>>8477483
Like drawing with a pencil, I don't know. It's not that different.

>>8477483
Connect doesn't have a pen eraser. Fucking garbage if you ask me. Neither does Capture. Decent bamboo model starts at $199 called Create. It's pretty much better now compared to the old $199 model line. My old shit tablet is fucking tiny, designed awkwardly and cost $199.

Anybody who created a new pixiv account draw anything yet?

I have poor control over my hands. I don't know why. My handwriting is absolutely horrible and very inconsistent; I sometimes have a hard time making some of the movements of certain letters. When I try to draw it comes out looking no better than anything I drew when I was 5 years old.

There is no way I will ever be able to draw.

>>8477967
thats actually a very serious condition anon.

>>8478009
What's it called?

How's this? Drew it a long time ago and even then, it took me the whole year.

>>8478009

Being retarded.

>>8474798
If it makes you feel any better, I just did the same thing and I realized I haven't improved much since 2005!
I also drew less than 20 pictures in all of 2011.
feels bad man.

>>8478409
pretty good
also, you're already in a good level since 2005

>>8477410
Most of my non-animu stuff I draw with a pencil. Drawing 3d people digitally feels clumsy.

Neither is it really relevant to the board.

I will start attending drawing course in few days or maybe next week.

>>8478409
It doesn't really make me feel better.

>I also drew less than 20 pictures in all of 2011.
Shit, me too. I think I actually got worse in 2011 because of it. 2012 shall be the year of drawing more and improving. I won't have it any other way.

Does anyone want to do something similar in regards to remixing music? I know I'd be more motivated to learn FL Studio if I had some buddy rivalry with another person.

Because no matter how hard I try my best still isn't that good. I admire those that can draw well, but I'm also kind of jealous too.

>>8479555
>remixing music

Where'd this come from?

>>8479726
Out of an interest of making arrangements.

>>8479743
But this is a drawing thread.

Have none of the drawrivals drawn anything? Oh well, kind of expected that. Guess I shouldn't been too excited.

here i go
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1402313

If I could draw I'd end up drawing some 2D girl who would constantly give me pep talks. Everyday she would say exactly the right thing to cheer me up. She and I would eventually fall in love. After my death, all the drawings would be collected into a series and would sell for millions.

One of my works...

What about some kind of /jp/ art blog challenge thing? With weekly challenges like "Draw your favorite Touhou drinking tea" and "Draw the heroine from the last game you played cooking in an apron" or something like that, and at the end of the week all the submissions are posted?

>OH BOY TIME TO KNOCK OUT 10,000 HOURS OF DRAWING, I HAVENT EVEN PLAYED FALLOUT 3/NEW VEGAS FOR THAT LONG!
>WOW YOU KNOW I REALLY SUCK AND BECAUSE I HAVE SUCH SHITTY SELF ESTEEM IM GOING TO START CRYING NOW
>YEAH FUCK THAT ILL JUST NEVER LEARN TO DRAW EVER

>>8482805
We should make OC threads with a theme like that

>>8482808
How'd you know?

>>8476411
Those who have been in flockdraw know your secret.
Don't be a dick.

>>8482805
I support this motion. It'd give me motivation to draw.

>>8482805

Sounds like a good idea to me.

Maybe I should get to learn something too.

Anyone knows how to learn to color shit?

>>8482805

Just what >>8482820 and >>8482845 said

>>8482892
I don't have the resources to run it, unfortunately, as I don't have regular access to a computer. (Posting from my phone now.) It was just a proposal. Would anyone else be interested in setting it up?

>>8479525
>2012 shall be the year of drawing more and improving. I won't have it any other way.
Let's give it our best.

because i have a writing disability
(my wrists are basically fucked, but work well in their regular functions

I will stick to photoshoping even though i suck at that too

>>8483631
I think it looks good and sexy, except for the super slim waist. That could use fixing.

>>8474007
Im drawing
its just too shitty for anything but those shitty threads on /jp/

i never made a full one but here's this

someone make a /jp/ wordlist on isketch

>>8483722
You need to have like 2000 words minimum for an isketch list if i remember correctly

>>8483727
and?

I'm too lazy to draw

i want in on this pixiv thing
my drawings suck and i have no motivation but maybe ill start working harder in a group
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3380758
currently empty but i'll do something sooner or later

>>8482805
>"Draw your favorite Touhou drinking tea"
She'll drink it after she finishes warming it up.

>>8483849
Cute.

Is it okay to trace pictures to learn proportions? I just started to learn how to draw and most parts of this picture I've traced from http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=18309161

>>8484035
You dont learn effectively while tracing. Its as effective as learning japanese with karaoke.
Its better just to draw from reference. That way you will make a bad picture, but you could see what you did wrong and how its supposed to be drawn in right way.
but, well, whatever works, is okay.

>>8482805

That'd be pretty awesome, please take the initiative and do it.

As someone who's horribly unskilled at drawing I know that I won't be starting it.

Here's my Totoro.

>>8484094
You did that Kid fanart? Holy shit.

>>8484094
Loving that Soul pic 2009.

I started drawing serious about a year ago and I have improved a ton.

Online paintchats are the best way to get better.

I'm dysgraphic. I can't read my own handwriting sometimes.

>>8484094
2010 is better than 2011 and 2012...

I used to draw, but I gave up because it's too time consuming.

>>8484188
Need as much time as you can to post on /jp/ and sleep!

>>8484110
What if you don't have a tablet?

>>8484209
Get one.

>>8484209
you will have to adjust to mouse painting then. Some people manage to do great job with it.

>>8484217
I can't afford one.

>>8484244
Get the money to buy one, cheap ones can go for 50$.

Or >>8484227, I've seen really good mouse artists. Just set your mouse sensitivity to the lowest setting.

How different is drawing on a tablet v. traditional art?

Also, how does one go about properly self-teaching themselves how to draw? I've been trying for a while (07), but it's barely improved, and I still don't know how the fuck to shade.

>>8484253
>cheap ones can go for 50$.


What the fuck? 50 bucks? Sorry not all of us have ultra plush lifestyles where that's easily affordable, and I have other things I want to get. Maybe by June...

>>8484268
Well, screw online paint chats then. How do you think people learned to draw before the dawn of computers/internet?
Even without a tablet, you're at an advantage here. You have literally millions of pictures online for reference.

>>8484267
you can redraw, scale and rearrange everything without going through a billion of paper sheets. On the bad side, its not good for the learning probably
multiple layers make coloring very easy.

Learning is going faster when you are trying to do things you dont know. Like, try to shade without having a clue, or try to repeat some image or pose you dont have an idea about. Though, art and anatomy theory helps understanding as lot, without practicing you certainly wont advance.

>>8484267
> I've been trying for a while (07), but it's barely improved, and I still don't know how the fuck to shade.

Requesting that one link about how anatomy matters a fuckton.

>>8484267
>How different is drawing on a tablet v. traditional art?
Ctrl+z.

>>8484267
You should start with traditional art and after you have improved a ton you can start with digital art

Also start here:
drawspace.com

>>8484339
>You should start with traditional art
And why would that be? You can study all the same basics on digital medium just as well.

Are there any good left-handed drawing tablets?

>>8484447
You're probably kidding, but I haven't seen one that doesn't allow changing the rotation yet.

>>8484447
Most tablets I know of have settings for left handedness.
Be sure to check it.

>>8484459
I can't be the only left-handed person on /jp/.
>>8484460
Alright, I better start looking then.

How are figma for using as models? I'm thinking of adding a couple of figma to my collection of figurines not only because I think they look nice, but their ability to pose seem to be decent.

It would be a waste of time now that the end of the world is nigh.

>>8484506
you aren't but I dont feel any problem with a tablet so far. Am I doing something wrong?

>>8484094
Wow... awesome

>>8484175
Thanks
>>8484097
well, that Kid was drawn with an reference, and tried to draw Serge with the same style as in Vision of Escaflowne ova - so there's only coloring that make them good looking for me
I don't feel like I've improved I'm still bad with proportions - but I still learn

>>8484542
Oh no, you poor soul.

>>8484542
This is pretty much my worst nightmare.
If that is really your image then I am so sorry.

>>8485172
>>8485812
...Sorry, I'm joking. I can't draw to save my life.
Wish I could, I've always been jealous of that ability.

Anyways, being an artist or not doesn't matter, as a wise fellow /jp/er said once: "Without our sense of sight our kind has no reason or purpose for living".

I think the same applies to manual dexterity. I'd rather lose both legs than even one hand.


I'm sorry if I made you feel bad.

This was more fun than I expected. For anyone wondering I was a huge gaiafag in 2006, and it devastated my art and creativity, or rather my enjoyment of both of those things in whatever measure you could judge them by. Afterwards was when I discovered MMOs and spent my time playing them instead of anything tangibly constructive. I'm trying to pick up the pencil again.