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make a better translation and show him whos the boss in here

Why are they using a non-existent quote function?

How often do you need to make this shitty thread

>>8444651
>Daily

please stop swearing and acting so hateful

>>8444618

Or how about translators stop fucking pulling shit like this?

I never thought I'd find a bigger faggot than Ixrec, but god damn.

>>8444708
cry more

>>8444708
>I never thought I'd find a bigger faggot than Ixrec
>implying that's possible

I don't really get it. The translation isn't even done, so even without JAST there would be no patch.
And JAST will still release it, and you might have the option to get a physical copy or whatnot.

>>8444782
The difference being the timeframe?

>>8444782
I'll get a physical copy, yeah.
In ten years.

>>8444782
Who fucking cares. I can get a physical copy from Japan if I really want one. Also, this is JAST. We all know it probably won't be released within the next few years.

Sumaga would've been done already if it wasn't for JAST

>>8444796

>>8444796
Even before JAST, gckc had already slowed to a crawl, I'm fairly sure.

>>8444796
>>8444802

It's true. The translator probably wouldn't have lost motivation on it.

>>8444782

The translation was done and fully edited by the end of last year, though. Blick just decided to retranslate the entire thing because of the JAST deal he told no one about.

>JAST's face when contacting Blick

>>8444810
it is delayed because of jast. they are retranslating it

>>8444634
It's a format not a function you pleb.

>>8444790
>Also, this is JAST. We all know it probably won't be released within the next few years.
And... we know this because? Because of what? One prior incident?

Yep, Blick is a faggot. Not really sure what else there is to discuss about it anymore, though.

Why are they still complaining so much about Chaos;Head? Its not even related.
Chaos;Head was never delayed because of JAST, heck, the very needed "official" beta testing was even done by /jp/ denizens here on /jp/, with active response and new beta patches as feedback was given. What now become the final release was from the end of that direct chain of beta testing. We got it as soon as it was done.

>>8444855
Stop trolling or kill yourself, whichever is applicable.

>>8444855

Every big-name VN they've ever released has taken far longer than it should have and, with the exception of OsaDai, was subject to numerous delays and broken release dates.

>>8444867

I want to make sure that everyone knows about it.

>>8444877

Chaos;Head never got a final release, though. TIPS were never finished and there were a ton of glitches.

You are a childish, self-entitled little prick. He's under no obligation to be a SUPER NICE GUY and release it for free or whatever.
Go join Richard Stallman and complain to all doujin/hobbyist developers that they're Nazis for making their programs proprietary, nerd.

>>8444818
>The translation was done and fully edited by the end of last year, though.
It wasn't edited at all.

>Blick just decided to retranslate the entire thing
Revise =/= retranslate

>>8444906

>"Hey guys, I'll bake some bread for you. No, don't worry about paying me, I'm doing it out of the goodness of my heart."
>"Oh wow, this bread is baking a lot faster than I expected. I'll be done with the bread real soon"
>The baker then disappears for ages without warning.
>"Oh sorry guys, I actually sold my bread to a bigger company, because I lied about wanting to bake it out of the goodness of my heart. You'll have to go buy it from them, although they haven't actually baked it yet, and it might take then a very long time to do so. What do you mean, you're angry? I didn't HAVE to bake that bread for you, you know! Why don't you try baking some bread, huh!?"

>>8444917
>It wasn't edited at all.

By the end of December, had Blick kept working on it, it would have been.

>>8444929
Blick had kept on working on it. He still is working on it.
Did you see the SVN log he posted?

>>8444922
what is the point are you trying to make

>>8444936

I should say 'had Blick not decided to sell his integrity, stopped updating, and retranslated/revised/rewhatevered the entire thing, it would have been finished by the end of December, and we wouldn't be having this thread right now'.

>>8444943

That Blick is a greedy faggot and that we have every reason to be angry?

I think a better metaphor is something like
>I baked you some bread! Eat up!
>...1.5 months later
>I'm going to rebake that stale bread so it's crunchy and tastier, but it'll take at least 6 months and you'll have to pay for it. But look forward to having that same bread again!

>>8444887
They haven't had many big names VNs though. They messed up big time on Family Project, but that was because they themselves were translating it, the work in question involving a whole lot of text, and them having had troubles paying their translators or not.
Sure that sucks, but their other translators still released their sub-par porn.

Other than that though, what have they really failed with so horribly so far?
From their new lineup N+ messed up and it broke JAST's intended schedule.
Otherwise their current lineup have been sticking to the schedule more or less, have it not?

And aside from Family Project, they now have a hired staff, and they haven't been working on these projects from scratch, and they have the help of fan translators.

Hate them if you want, but I just don't see any reliable statistics pointing towards them failing to release their lineup. What's there to base it on? In the past they mostly released random porn whenver they could and when it worked for them. That doesn't really say much.

>>8444953
what the fuck does bread have to do with anything. i mean this is what happened for the most part. what the fuck is this bread analogy for

>>8444982

If Sumaga, School Days, and the N+ short VNs are all released this year, I'll shut up about JAST from now on, but trust me, they won't be.

>>8444969

That doesn't account for all the whiteknighting from people who are probably Blick in disguise.

>>8444953
>that we have every reason to be angry?
Except for the fact that any of you faggots that care already have a perfectly readable copy as it is?

>>8445009

I don't care, I already read it. I'm pissed that ANOTHER translator sold out, especially one as good and fast as Blick.

>>8444953
>retranslated/revised/rewhatevered the entire thing
You mean skipping very needed and necessary steps of translating?
All translations are to be edited. Its generally recommended for the translator to revise his own translation prior to editing too, if the time and or money allows it. That's how things have been translated since for the longest time already, be it books or whatnot.

S;G's translation as it is in the released patch, is, notably sub par. This revising and editing should make for a vastly better product.
Do you remember when the project started, and everyone sort of laughed at the claims that were made and the speed at which the translation supposedly was going? Yeah, that was basically because of just this.

No, Blick didn't break the fan translation scene's translation speed record. He underestimated stuff and now he needs to continue. Just like people called the project out on when it all started.

>>8445034
>good and fast
If he has to redo all of his work, then he's neither.

drama = bad

just translate and shut up goddamnit

>>8445051

He didn't have to at all. I simply think he wants to buy himself time.

>>8445031

The unedited patch is fine; it just needs, well, editing.

Blick did not need to go and revise the ENTIRE thing.

>>8444969
You forgot this part: "But you're more than welcome to continue eating the stale bread for free if you'd like!"

>>8445068
who cares about translations. drama is the only good thing about vns

What's with all the people telling the complainers to learn Japanese?

>>8445068

Fucking this. Why is it so hard to just translate and then release? Why all this fucking drama?

>>8445091
I don't think any translators are participating in these discussions, really.

>>8445034
You might as well go cry about the evils of Capitalism then.

>>8445102
I'm a translator. I'm about to finish Baldr Sky, but now I'm going to go back and revise it.
And then sell it to Jast.

>>8445076
If the translation is half assed, then the editing suffers even further problems from having a foundation not up to par.

And no, the patch that's released is rather awkward. Even more so given how some things are just wrong.

Fairly amusing all this "I wish translators stopped the drama and just translated" is coming from the ones actually stirring shit up and not being useful themselves.

Chaos;Head's engine was a mess to work with. And the patch works. There was never going to be anything else. Honestly, Jast has nothing to do with that. Its just that none wants to mess with debugging and rewriting their entire engine just to make a slightly altered patch.

No one on /jp/ cares about this kusoge, take your self-entitled faggotry back to /a/.

>>8445285
Uh, no, people on /jp/ do care about it.

>start translating something
>find a way to exploit your skill for money
>laugh at the fools who already bought legit copies
>call anyone who complains a 'pirate'

sounds vaguely familiar...

>>8445171

It's good enough for a non-professional translation. In fact, it's better than most so-called "professional" VN translations, before they started stealing buying fan-tls.

>>8445181

No, I think disappearing for two months "because JAST might have told me to" and not even trying to contact Steiner is definitely stirring up drama.

>>8445636
No, the translation is really sub-par generally speaking.
Now other translations aren't always exactly paradigms of great translations either, but this is sub par relatively speaking to that.

>>8447844
Flyable Heart, Edelweiss, Dark Translations, and any number of shitty doujin translators have shown just how low the bar is. Not to mention practically everything on Baka-Tsuki.

>>8447853
>Flyable Heart, Edelweiss, Dark Translations, and any number of shitty doujin translators have shown just how low the bar is.
That's not where the bar is. Its simply way below the bar.

the guy is a huge troll and asshole,but there really is nothing that we can do. im just gonna pirate the game when it comes out either way. Also i really hope gundamace wont start selling games or turn to the faggot side now...

This is all because you refused to submit to the Will of the Proleteriat and fulfill the quotas mandated in the Five-Year Plan.

Ignoring N+'s mishaps. How do you think it would have gone without an official release?

Why is anyone upset about this? Shits;gayte is /a/-level babby material that any true /jp/er already finished reading and discussing well before it was translated or got an anime.

I don't really understand how companies should exist without selling their games. Hypocrites/General?

One thing's for sure; I will never buy JAST's official localizations of any games.
This means that any kind of profit they could have made from me is null.

>>8448605
Why should they exist?
What do they bring to the table?
Do they pay for more translators? Do they motivate the translators to work faster? Do we get more games translated with them around?
BIG NOPE.

>>8448663
>Do they pay for more translators?
yes
>Do we get more games translated with them around?
yes

you sound retarded

>>8448681
The first response is an outright lie, and the second is more a possible result of an action, not the action itself. For a bit of a butchered analogy, it's kinda like those 3DPD sluts who walk around nude in nigger infested areas late at night.

Ignoring N+'s mishaps. How do you think Demonbane would have gone without an official release?

>>8448724
are you seriously trying to tell me that everything they released in the past 15 years would have been translated anyway? REALLY?

>>8448733
im sure same mysterious hero who waits for mg to drop kiminozo and for strato to drop baldr sky wanted to translate it. if only it wasnt licensed. what a tragedy

>>8448773
Yes, really.

>>8448724
The Sumaga project hired another translator like 3 months ago.