/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>We pretty much surpassed them a good while ago in terms of traffic
lol no

Also, fuck yes. I haven't seen that picture in ages. So moe~

I would her stumps.

>>833760
I hate to say it to someone who's obviously not a newfag, but...
http://lurkmore.com/wiki/index.php?title=2chan

>As of spring 2006, 4chan has actually surpassed 2chan in traffic, though 2ch is still larger than both of them combined.

>>833786
Two years... I wonder how much has changed since then.

I remember that Kuma was lecherous, though not pedo, which makes the KnJ thing a little amusing.

Seeing that the few elevens I have talked to in /a/ prefer 4chan, I would say we have some significant effect.

One of them said he preferred 4chan since it moved faster...
Also, Nice Boat.

2chan is well aware of 4chan, but only in a "Haha, look at the stupid gaijin," sort of way.

2ch is also somewhatish aware of 4-ch, (as in, posters from 2ch show up every once in a while, or at least they claim to be) and to a lesser extent, 4chan, I'd assume, but they really don't give a fuck, it seems.

And we still take their memes. Hell,easily half of "classic" 4chan memes are just imported 2chan memes.

>>833786
>though 2ch is still larger than both of them combined.

What exactly do they mean by larger?

>>833821
large /lɑrdʒ/
larg·er, larg·est, noun, adverb
–adjective
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2. on a great scale: a large producer of kitchen equipment.
3. of great scope or range; extensive; broad.
4. grand or pompous: a man given to large, bombastic talk.
5. (of a map, model, etc.) representing the features of the original with features of its own that are relatively large so that great detail may be shown.
6. famous; successful; important: He's very large in financial circles.
7. Obsolete. generous; bountiful; lavish.
8. Obsolete.
a. unrestrained in the use of language; gross; improper.
b. unrestrained in behavior or manner; uninhibited.
9. Nautical. free (def. 33).

>>833829

>>833829
I mean, do they mean larger as in having a bigger user base, more servers to hold content on at any given time, etc.

>>833835
I would assume it's the amount of traffic

>>833835
2channel is most likely the largest site on the internet, seeing as it is basically what 4chan is to weeaboos, only for the whole of japan.

the biggest data miner (alexa) cannot accurately count 2channel's traffic, as most people who frequent 2channel use 2ch browser standalone software, which is impossible to track using alexa.

According to alexa 4chan has way more traffic than 2chan (in fact I run a forum with more traffic than 2chan)

2channel though is a whole other ball game

>>833845
>As of spring 2006, 4chan has actually surpassed 2chan in traffic

>>833835
Both. Just take a look at their board list; it's huge. Since 2ch's close to #15 in Japan, I'd imagine that would be a huge server load.

Taking a look at the Alexa page, I'm suprised that China didn't block 2ch yet. 2 percent of their traffic, eh?

>>833861 As of start of newfag summer 2006, 4chan has actually surpassed 2chan in traffic
Fixed

For comparison

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/2chan.net?site0=2chan.net&site1=4chan.org&
y=r&z=3&h=300&w=610&c=1&u%5B%5D=2chan.net&u%5B%5D=4chan.org&x=2008-06-16
T16%3A14%3A52.000Z&check=www.alexa.com&signature=1aITxw%2F5lkDBfOpPGYCfUKFJ8lQ%3D&range=
6m&size=Medium

That red line is 4chan

also, notice how the traffic has actually gone DOWN since summer started, proof of a massive influx of newfags sarcastic quip

>>833873 also, notice how the traffic has actually gone DOWN since summer started, proof of a massive influx of newfags sarcastic quip
Because /b/ totally doesn't make up most of 4chan.

>>833859
>According to alexa 4chan has way more traffic than 2chan (in fact I run a forum with more traffic than 2chan)

>Taking a look at the Alexa page, I'm suprised that China didn't block 2ch yet. 2 percent of their traffic, eh?

That's a pretty big forum you've got there.

Blue line is 4chan Red line is 2chan.

>>833912
He's Gaia's admin.

>1,000
>10,000

sage myself for potential stupidity

Surpassing 2chan really isn't a big deal, and as people say it happened quite awhile ago.

2channel is an entirely different matter, and it's not really realistic to even consider 4chan ever becoming bigger than that.

>>834052
Ah, it's just a mixup of terms. 2chan is Futaba and 2channel is the much bigger monster site.

>>834052
>realistic
In terms of accessibility by language, an English board has a much larger potential (more people speak English on the planet). Thankfully, I don't see anything surpassing MySpace in terms of written human filth collected in one place at any given time. 4chan isn't that bad once you take out /b/ and when the kids are asleep for tomorrow's school.

man, i hate it when futaba is flooded with baby cp.

>>834099
Well, compared to Gaia, it's wonderful. I've never been on the site, but what people have posted... it's hideous.

>>834091
Precisely. Futaba channel is still pretty large, but nowhere near the size of 2channel which is where 4chan has taken most of its glorious nippon memes from.

>>833916
Wait, does this mean 4chan is falling, even though summer is upon us?

Futaba and 2channel... fuck those bastards. At least our mods are relatively fast in cleaning up the cp.

>>834124
It means that summer might actually be a low point as far as traffic. Makes no sense.

>>834099
>n terms of accessibility by language, an English board has a much larger potential (more people speak English on the planet).

Yes, but 2channel just appeals to a much broader audience than 4chan does. It has several hundred more sections than 4chan and is generally not so much looked down on by others. With the way 4chan is they're not really even competitors.

>>834105
Imagine MySpace with less suicide and more emoticons, fully powered by the Inefficient Low Power Weeaboo Core ™ (now outputting less than 9000 Watts) which translates every second word into a Romanized Japanese equivalent, chosen from a predetermined list of weighted words where the highest weighted are more commonly selected. I hear the highest weighted term is 'kawaii', but I wouldn't know, for I have never been.

>>834145
>generally not so much looked down on by others

Japanese still consider Otaku to be freaks.

>>834131
Try harder.

>so you might think that some of our memes and such make it over there.

I'm sure that 2chan would find shopping Makoto heads and using bullshit words like "GAR" drop-dead hilarious. The only memes that we share with them are the ones that we brought over here in the first place. That, and "nice boat."

>>834154
2channel memes are just as fail as ours.

tannasin is glomping weird

>>834131
Probably because they have to, and for a large number of reasons too, not just the FBI at moot's door. I suspect that most people don't care enough about cp on Japanese boards that would warrant their removal as quickly as possible (mainly because their law enforcement don't have enough resources to even bother).

>>834152
>Japanese still consider Otaku to be freaks.

Well sure, but only a very small part of 2channel is dedicated to talking about anime and stuff like that. Which is why I say that it's not much like 4chan at all, where like half of the sections are for anime/games, or pictures related to that.

>>834152
Lurk more.

2ch is much more than otakus; many everyday Japs go there.

>>834154
All anime fans are losers. All gamers are also losers. These rules apply even moreso to Japan. The main difference is that their userbase is even more introverted than we are.

>>834178
>>834175
Then why bother? Nerds and freaks are the only groups that have enough dedication to produce anything interesting. Also, perhaps you assume otaku refers to 'anime fan', as opposed to obsessive hobbyist.

>>834152
I don't think all the users of 2ch are otakus.

>>834152
Your average shitty japanese salary man visits 2channel thats why it's so fucking xBOX HUGE

>>834196
You are aware that Otaku does not mean anime nerd, right?

>>834190
Because discussing things is what people do. And to state that people besides us can't produce anything entertaining or useful is just retarded; perhaps you're not interested in their musings, but they certainly are. You may not like discussing sports, but somewhere, some freak in Japan wants to talk about some baseball player's balls and somewhere, some other freak in Japan wants to agree with him. And that's what the internet is for.

>>834203
You don't think 2ch has it's fair share of normal people?

In before something derogatory about Elevens.

Nice boat is the only meme I'm aware of that started on 4chan and got popular in Japan. Most everything else we stole from them.

>In modern Japanese slang, the term otaku refers to fan of, or is specialized in any particular theme, topic, or hobby.

>>834190
>Then why bother? Nerds and freaks are the only groups that have enough dedication to produce anything interesting

What are you even talking about? We were talking about the fact that 2channel-users are not looked down on in the same way since the site is fairly normal by Internet standards.

4chan is much more niched than 2channel. Lots of everyday people go to 2channel on a daily basis whereas there are very few such people on a site like 4chan, which has profiled itself to the rest of the Internet as being about anime, videogames, disturbing pictures and invading other sites.

>>834212
>Nice boat is the only meme I'm aware of that started on 4chan

>>834212
Didn't nice boat start on one of the japanese boards as well? The original comment was from there at least.

>>834228
READ THE WHOLE FUCKING POST

JESUS CHRIST

>>834235
The Nice Boat meme never started on 4chan. It started as a meme on 2ch.

The term Nice Boat came from 4chan however. But it was not a meme till Japan got a hold of it.

>>834235
Considering that was a popular troll line when that episode aired instead of School Days - I don't need too.

>>834212
What about that Suzaku spin? I think it started in /m/.

>>834244
>It started as a meme on 2ch.
I'm pretty sure that it was futaba

>>834225

>Lots of everyday people go to 2channel on a daily basis whereas there are very few such people on a site like 4chan

I would give anything for this to still be true.

What about that Suzaku spin meme? I think it started in /m/ and then bled over to /a/.

>>834225
I had thought 2channel was just a much bigger version of 4chan with a much more extreme user base. As I understand it now, it might as well just be a forum or chat client.

Just another way for people to communicate. Fuck that.

>>834260
everyday people refers to people that are normal productive members of society

i think we can both agree that newfags fall nowhere near this definition?

>>834266
Was it? My bad then. I knew it was either futaba or 2ch. Just didn't remember which one.

Nice Boat started on 4chan.

>>834269
Newfags that are called newfags (i.e. don't know much about the community and don't lurk to learn more and think they know everything) = normalfag

>>834269
Normal 'productive' members of society turn into dicks when given anonymity. It's the same with nerds/freaks, except they get shit done.

>>834277
So what's a newfag? I'm tired of these hip new terms you guys come up with.

You know what 4chan needs - another Raspberry Heaven

Pretty aware but I don't think many browse us. Certain jap memes have been spawned from 4chan stuff like nice boat.

>>834269

Oh wow. It was like Socratic irony, but completely accidental.

The good news is that I now feel zero need to risk visiting 2channel. Finally, the last piece of weeaboo in me has died.

>>834265
>I had thought 2channel was just a much bigger version of 4chan with a much more extreme user base

This was 2chan pretty much for the first years of 4chan before we grew past them. Both 4chan and 2chan is kinda built on 2channel (anonymous posting, saging and all that) but 2channel is really more like 4ch or the 4chan BBS than the 4chan imageboards.

The names are similar and they share some stuff, but 2channel is more a ridiculously large discussion forum while 4chan is an image board for well.. otakus mostly.

(And this is why I was saying that 4chan has no realistic chance of ever competing with 2channel)

>>834293
...

You don't deserve to be here if you did not already know about 2ch.

>>834299
I'm actually kinda surprised that there are apparently so many people mixing 2channel and 2chan up, I thought most people had that one figured out by now

>>834297
You are correct, then.

>>834306
They are the newcomers who refuse to learn the very basics.

>>834306
>>834315
Futaba is incorrectly referred to as 2chan as a result of the url. Those who had no reason to check or care often assume 2chan is short for 2channel.