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Sooo.....Yume Nikki.

why did yume nikki spoilers: kill herself /spoilers at the end of the game?

>>8321136
To get to the other side.

>>8321136
She was tired.

>>8321136
she ran out of grape juice lol.....

There are many theories on why she did that at the end of the game. Maybe she thought it was a dream, maybe she wanted to escape, maybe she thought she could fly....or something.

>>8321147
You stole my joke you fucker.
And it wasn't even really a joke.
You're despicable.

maker couldn't think of an ending.

>>8321159
> maybe she thought she could fly
It's more likely than you think.

She thought she was still asleep

you made her do it

>>8321193
Witch Effect ftw, that area was one of the happiest places, until the end.

>>8321204
That really makes sense because we control her in the game, make her kill creatures and stuff. We could activate the ending by choice.

>>8321209
Yeah, I loved it. It was so pointless but it had nice music and scenery, and it felt like a normal dream. I just wanted to stay there forever.

>>8321136
You have seen every part of her former life in her dreams, but in the end nothing was solved, just because you explored everything (all 24 Effects) she didn't stop being a hikkikomori. Jumping was kind of her way of getting the control back from her life, leaving all her bad experiences behind in form of the effects. Well that is just my theorie and I heard that many people cried at the end, me included, cause we got just so used to the old "at the end you save the princess".

Anybody else notice that the more effects you get, the more the real world's weather gets worse and worse?

Anyway, I always assumed that the messed up dreams she was getting, whether they were caused by traumatic events, or simply being cooped up for too long, built up mental stress. At the end, she was so stressed and unbalanced, she found a way to fall asleep where she wouldn't dream.

Maybe she tripped.

>>8321237
> I heard that many people cried at the end
I don't have anything against those people (I'm not one of these jaded edgy folk) but I actually laughed at the end. Her death was so sudden. She just sort of...hopped. Maybe it would have been a little gimmicky, but some sort of fancy slowdown or zoom effect might have been good there.

>>8321272
Yeah, I was just kind of shocked when I found the stepping stool and I wondered what would happen. Then she jumped. Haha

And if they did something like a slowdown effect, I would've laughed, because I always laugh at things in slow-motion.

>real world's weather gets worse and worse

I didn't notice that, actually, this one time near when I got the ending, the sky was actually really sunny. Here's a screenshot. I took the screenshot because it was one of the calmer panoramas I've seen in the balcony area.

>>8321272
I usually laugh at the death of real people. I only get emotional over 2d Characters, kinda explains why I'm on /jp/. But I guess any other wouldn't do it, if nothing changes it would be stupid and if she would just walk outside her room it would be stupid too.

Since the game was so fucked up, I would've expected Kikiyama to make her grow wings at the end, but then instead of flying to safety, have someone shoot her or something.

>>8321357
> I usually laugh at the death of real people.
Why? Not caring I can understand, but I don't get why you'd actually laugh.
Sounds like someone has a case of the edgies!

>>8321328
I forgot how cool her apartment was. Seriously, it's perfect. Exactly the sort of place I'd like to live (as long as I had my own bathroom).

>>8321272
If only you could actually hear her think, read the diary, or stuff like that, you could actually establish a stronger connection to her, and therefore feel more out of the death.

It's like:
1. A girl committed suicide today, by jumping off of her apartment's balcony.
Reaction: Oh, okay.

2. Hi, I'm Madotsuki... I've been a shut in for such a long time. Some stuff happened in life that... Well, makes me scared to go outside. However, I've been having these dreams. They take me back to the worst times of my life, in awful, twisted ways. And they just keep playing, over and over again, until they're horrible, messed up abominations that I can't run away from. Every time I close my eyes, I'm there again. I just want to find an escape. When I am asleep, The horrible memories are there. I can try to stay awake, but I can do nothing, NOTHING, without making more horrible memories that I will keep seeing, over and over and OVER AND OVER AGAIN! I NEED to find some way to finally find peace, to finally get over all of the mistakes I have made! They keep twisting in my stomach like a wicked knife... How do I escape? The only way is to end it all... To finally sleep without waking up. I won't have any dreams then. I'll finally close my eyes, and not see the demons of my past torturing me... Yes... It's seeming more and more appealing... I'M GOING TO DO IT! *Jumps*
Reaction: ... Oh god.

>>8321409
Madotsuki: CRAAAAWLING IN MYYY SKIIIIINNN

>>8321403
Agreed

This game isn't really as DEEP as people make it out to be,

>>8321409
That would ruin it. I don't think it was intentional, but to me the point of Madotsuki was that you could kind of relate to what little you knew about her. It may seem backwards, but by keeping her open to interpretation, she becomes a much more interesting character.
I mean, she only has a name because RPG Maker requires that the main character has one.

>>8321431
The suicide was clearly intentional.
That is why the game is so good.

>>8321423
Yes, because on Kikiyama's website he said, 'There is no actual story, just wander around' or something like that, I suck at japanese.

We just like to over complicate things. Maybe Kikiyama just added whatever was going on in his life into the game. Maybe he just wanted to fuck with our minds.
And I really like his Picasso-like style in-game.
>>8321431
Also going with that, it's made for interpretation.

>>8321456
Well yeah, that's why it's suicide, dummy!

What a boring game.
It's like everyone plays it, hates it while they're playing it, then afterwards they mentally block out the seven hours of holding the same arrow key.

>>8321136
She became Youkai and went to Gensokyo. Mummy man from Futae no Kiwami entered Gensokyo too after he died and became Youkai.

>>8321486
I actually didn't hate it when I played most of the time. It was weird and interesting. I was expecting something to pop out any minute, but it never came (excpet for Uboa and Takofuusen. Only the Takofuusen scared the crap out of me).

>>8321409
>>8321486
These people clearly missed the whole point of this game.

>>8321486
I like just walking around and exploring and enjoyed it.
I sort of want to believe that Madotsuki was enjoying these dreams because and no point she seemed to be terrified, just apathic.
I sometimes wonder why she killed herself too but I can never find an answer

>>8321486
Because she opened the portal to gensokyo while the rest of here are still here.
Dont you feel embarassed that a little girl like madotsuki has more guts than your usual spineless /jp/ anons?
She is a yukkuri now.

>>8321486
>Seven hours of holding the same key
Did you use the hyperspeed glitch?

I lost interest in Yume 2kki, because it goes on and on with a billion effects to gather.

Yume Nikki and .flow were short and sweet.

>>8321542
I think he didn't

>>8321551
I agree. Yume 2kki was the game where we spent hours exploring but not finding anything. I find only 3 effects before they release a nearly useless update.

>>8321502
But it was all the SAME weird and interesting. Holding left and going through the same scenery to the same music and sounds. Snore.

>>8321520
I get that it's an exploration game. It's just a very dull one. As if they padded everything out for the sake of longevity. I don't dislike exploration games. Here's another freeware one I really enjoyed:
http://autofish.net/clysm/art/video_games/seiklus/index.html

>>8321524
I liked walking around and exploring too, but only in a few areas. Again, holding left to walk through the same shit isn't fun or exploring or whatever. It's just an artificial way to make the game longer.

>>8321542
I did after a while. I also noticed a few people use programs to speed up the game's cycle rate.
If you need to do that in your game, then it's pretty poorly designed. In fact I think a lot of it was. Stuff like, "Exit the room then re-enter twenty times for the next effect!" is what I would expect out of some 12-year-old's Mario "hack". There are no hints and there's absolutely no reason for it. Experimenting is fine, but I shouldn't need a walkthrough just to play your game properly.

>>8321578
The sounds were actually pretty good, so was the music, it gave off a mysterious vibe. I love working with and making music. I can let you trash everything BUT the music in the game. I actually like it the most out of all the fangames (besides a few tracks from LcdDem)

>>8321537

>>8321602
I just noticed that they were dogs. The thumbnail makes it look like a person with a weird mouth.

Bump

>>8321891
They are scary.

Posting in a Yume Nikki thread while listening to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFQRxqHXMb0

Perhaps she was a pokemón trainer. The Toriningen are the trainers that challenged her, Poniko is her former self and Monoko and Monoe were her friends.

Her pokémon died in a battle which caused her such stress the only thing she could do was confine herself in her room. Now even in her dream the past memories haunt her endlessly.

>>8322311

>>8322311
I love that song! Really! And it's very joyful sounding. I always thought that this tower was newspaper office and tombstones were writing machines.

What think /jp/ about Yume Nikki?

>>8322329
>The Lavender Town Syndrome (also known as "Lavender Town Tone" or "Lavender Town Suicides") was a peak in suicides and illness of children between the ages of 7-12 shortly after the release of Pokemon Red and Green in Japan, back in February 27, 1996.

>Rumors say that these suicides and illness only occurred after the children playing the game reached Lavender Town...

http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Lavender_Town_Syndrome

>>8322440
i dunnooo

what do you think about yume nicky

>>8322497
Fucked up but awesome!

>>8322537
what makes you say that

Though it could very well be possible that Madotsuki made a contract with Kyubei and the game just captures her last days before despairing and turning into a witch, triggering the start of the Walpurgis Night.

>>8322456
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcxmDvjRsUg

I think Yume Nikki is something that I can relate to. Not the whole thing, but the symbolism and vagueness of it makes some aspects very relatable. Like the Toriningen that could be the bullies to traumas to Poniko (who doesn't pay attention to you and eventually becomes Uboa which could symbolize her stabbing you in the back or something.)

It's also nice to be fucked up in the head every once in a while.

>>8322649
>I think Yume Nikki is something that I can relate to.
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>>8322669
2deep4u

Why have this game no good or happy ending? The ending is sad as fuck!

>>8322706
there doesn't exist a fanon worse than the one given to yume nicky

>>8322733
That's the whole point.

>>8322733
But it IS a happy ending.
Besides, you could always get the alternative ending by never entering the bed and just closing the game, leaving Madotsuki to live out her days as an insomniac in relative peace.

>>8322669
I meant in some aspects, not the whole traumatized girl or being suicidal aspect of it. Just the bullying. And you do not get that there is a whole lot of symbolism in this game.
>>8322743
This is true.

>>8322456
>back in February 27, 1996

my 5th birthday

>>8322906
It always blows my mind how young you are. I can never shake the image that you're some sort of 40-year-old trap.

>>8322906
I find it funny that there's a bottle that says 'Success' in the background.

>>8322906
GTFO UNDERAGE!

>>8322906
And it isn't even YN related in the slightest.

they should make nikkibound

wouldn't it be neat

>>8323562
It would. Especially since some things from YN might've been derived from Earthbound.

>>8321136
She doesn't kill herself, you make her jump through your keyboard

>>8323611
Neon World = Moonside.

>>8323673
Which I said earlier. You control her, she might not want to even do all this stuff. Also, the ending is optional.
>>8323655
Wow, I didn't know that.

The coins were very useless.

Bump.

>>8323655
deep

Bump one last time.

>>8324356
> Menu Color Scheme Changed!
No it wasn't, vending machine.
No it wasn't.
;_;

What's actually wrong with Yume 2kki, in some places I walked minutes and was not getting anywhere. In some places there are dozen teleporters to fuck knows where and there are just too many dead ends, it's just like you walk half an hour for nothing. Why did they make the game so big?

>>8325755
Wha-?
>>8325624
I think because there's a shit load of people working on this game and each and every one of them has an idea on what to put in the game. More than 2 or 3 people collaborating on a game like this doesn't really end well in size (or ideas, things are jumblred up) terms.

I get what you feel, I remember getting to this place with these orange blocks and I could find anything except for a building that only has an effect on the top ugh

>>8322669
Well, if you are a little girl who has weird dreams I don't see how you can't relate to it.

>>8322899

>>8325916
>in SOME aspects
And I do have weird dreams sometimes with fucked up creatures and weird scenery. But most of them were when I was younger.

http://goods.surpara.com/yumenikki/

Has anyone bought any official merch?

So, lucid dreaming thread?

I've been getting better at remembering and revisitng my persistent dream worlds again, though I still cannot meet persistent characters, nor link up and travel between said worlds. Probably for the best though.

>>8326209
Wow official, that means that Kikiyama gave them permission to sell that stuff, cool. No, I didn't buy any. But I bought an UBOA plushie from etsy and it stares at me in my sleep. I wish I could get stuff from there, but I'm out of money from Christmas shopping and such.

>>8326229
Lucid dreaming? Sure...maybe but this thread is about the game Yume Nikki. Though lucid dreaming is vaguely on topic. So feel free to discuss.

>visit /jp/ out of a whim
>Yume Nikki thread

>>8326319

>>8326327

>>8326340

>>8326319
Which is a good thing

UboaaaaAAAAAAあああああああああ！！！

>>8321136

She had to go deeper into the pavement

>>8326594
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5zip4QGnmA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUP4PzkhJjQ

Do not read the comments before listening through the song.

madotsuki s a dotsuki for a yume nikki and i like yume nikki for madotsuki and there is a lot of madotsuki and dreams the entire game is based on dreams nightmares i get a lot nightmares a lot of my nightmares are pretty bad yume nikki i can relate to it because it's scary and so i am the madotsuki and this is why i love yume nikki

>>8327973
Amazing song haha

>>8327933
>Dotsuki (Dokutsuki)
Nice to see someone has heard about this game

Though most of that post is not understandable, I get the message.

Greetings from uboachan.

>>8329407
Hello uboachan

lol, birds are so lame

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