/jp/ - Otaku Culture

i wish i could buy a doll but there isnt any good one in my country ;_;

those curls...
that mellow look ...
...my heart

I've always been pretty interested in these but I really don't know where to start with any of it. Any help/advice you can lend me?

>>8275940
what confuses you? cost? sizing? brand differences?

Excuse me, I just went on mandarake for the first time and these prices seem too good to be true. Am I guaranteed to have semen stains on everything? This is what I payed for one Nagato figure!

>>8276099
this is the doll thread, you need to ask in the fig thread: >>8276075

>>8276060
I really don't know anything about brands and sizes/types of dolls.
I'm pretty much in the dark.

>>8276142
Damnit I knew I should have included the longer pasta

The predominant ones posted here are Volks Dollfie dream: http://www.volks.co.jp/en/dollfiedream/concept.html They're about 56-60 cm tall and cost an arm and a leg. They're often based on licensed characters http://www.volks.co.jp/en/dollfiedream/list_ddl.html but as you can see Volks also released characters of their own design http://www.volks.co.jp/en/dollfiedream/list_dd.html you may see these referred to as 1/3 dolls

Volks also makes other doll product lines such as "Super Dollfie" but they're geared toward more traditional doll enthusiasts and cost even more. http://www.volks.co.jp/en/superdollfie/sd/index_sd.aspx

The 'second' large doll manufacturer that cater to our tastes in the form of original and licensed character dolls is Azone. http://www.azone-int.jp/ they're about 21-25 cm tall (also referred to as 1/6 scale dolls) but Azone also makes larger dolls similar to volks using Obitsu bodies.

Beyond that, it's all a custom racket. Obitsu is the main manufacturer of doll bodies but unless you need a new doll body or new parts you usually don't look them up. hopefully that will get you started.

>>8276274
Thanks so much.

Littlewitch of Flame Aika's hair is really... REALLY red. Can't wait to take some low-key photos of her tomorrow. oh yeah, new doll etc.

I get two christmas dollies this year. :D My Dollfie Dream on Christmas, and this girl showed up a couple days earlier than expected-- pardon the wig,she beat out her wig in the mail, too, it should be here tomorrow.

>>8278412
What doll is that?

>>8278467

Minifee Chloe, from dollfairyland.org // Fairyland

>>8278412
Uncanny valley.

The drawback to the vinyl dress and boots is they inhibit posing. Not that neemo's don't have limited range anyway... also, >dat mouth

Bampu pantsu­.

I got an email from VolksUSA last night. I'm getting the prepainted DD-H06-san sometime early next year. So now I'll have three girls in my house. I'm very excited. :)

>>8275347
Excellent photo!

>>8282985
>prepainted
how does that work?

I've been so lazy, I just changed Airi into her Santa outfit today... Nor have I been taking pictures of her. Oh well.

>>8283562
instead of getting a bare piece of vinyl, you get one with the makeup already painted on

>>8283956
Ok.
Did you ask volks to paint it?
what are the options?

>>8285065
>>8283562
At DD Gathering 2010, Volks sold a pre-painted DD-H04. She is my first DD girl, Kanade-chan (in the picture). I was super lucky to get her. It wasn't a lottery, just a regular item sale from VolksUSA.

http://www.volksusa.com/ddg2010ddh04.html

And I just got news that I won the lottery for DD-H06-san. I expect her sometime in March. I saw several DD-H06 in Volks showrooms while traveling around Japan a few months ago. She's very cute.

http://www.volksusa.com/news45ddhead.html

>>8285670
How the heck did I miss that lotto? I have a whole body that just needs a head. What kind of wig are you planning?

>>8285731
You had to order a copy of Volks News 45 to get a lotto ticket. I saw the details on the Volks website.

I'm not sure about wigs yet. I've got a pair of 24mm Wakaba eyes that I'll try out first, and see if I like them. That's as far as I've gone with planning yet. :)

I guess that's what I get for taking for granted what's on the front page and not following the blog :)

I'm stil undecided on what head to get anyway so no biggie

>>8285670
Thanks

Reposted from http://holoblog.seesaa.net/s/article/242381331.html

>>8280671
I wonder how Aika would look like with fire as back or key light.

I really feel like getting SDGr Nono but I'm too poor. Sigh. Might actually have to pick her up over auction later.

Christmas bump for the doll thread. Love you guys. Happy Holidays.

>>8289415
Love you too Anonymous.

Didnt even have a proper christmas meal... just desserts

nom nom

>>8289445
I like your thinking. I should have brought a dollfie down to join me for Chrismas dinner as well. Would of had some interesting looks.

>>8289776
Now isnt too late to crack open that wine and have a good time

>>8289795
Saber would like that, but I’m actually flying to Japan in a few hours to attend Winter Comiket and need to pack but I’ll think about having a Dollfie Xmas dinner next year.

Merry Christmas doll thread

Look what was waiting for me under the tree! Too bad I forgot my camera at school. I apologize for the poor picture quality.

"come on. it's cute"

"... come on it's cute"

>>8296392
"...no"

>>8296395

>>8296401
I thought the aspect ratio seemed a bit taller than normal.

>>8296419
Yup, got a E-PM1 late November. The 17mm prime was a x-mas gift.

This seems interesting and I wanted to ask a few question.
-Is there a significant difference in quality between dollfie and azone to justify the extra 30,000+ or is it more just the size difference that increases the cost? Perhaps a different material that feels different or something that may not be apparent from photos?
-How do you deal with the social consequences of being an adult male who is willing to spend $500 on a doll? Have you ever had success trying to explain it to a more typical person? Not that I ever have any social contact outside of work at the moment, but I don't want to be alone forever (would like to raise a child eventually). I don't like the idea of starting yet another hobby I will have to hide whenever I get motivated and force myself to socialize.

>>8296401
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>>8296392
I've never paid attention to these threads but now I want a cute doll.

Bampu pantsu.

>>8297453
I don't know who you are, but you're cute. I like you.

>>8297168

Okay, now, you seem confused.

>-Is there a significant difference in quality between dollfie and azone to justify the extra 30,000+ or is it more just the size difference that increases the cost? Perhaps a different material that feels different or something that may not be apparent from photos?

Dollfie is a line from Volks. Azone is a different line altogether. As far as I know, Azone makes anime-based dolls with doll parts from other companies, like Obitsu. Obitsu is also a vinyl doll maker, but their products are more realistic and... uglier, but personal opinion.

The price difference you're seeing is between the 25ishcm dolls and the 60cm dolls. All three companies make both.

Azone dolls are going to be cute either way, more or less. They sell many sizes, like

http://www.hlj.com/product/AZNOD502LST
compared to
http://www.hlj.com/product/AZNPND049MDK

They're often anime characters and come with clothes and already styled. Hair is rooted (not a wig) which could be good or bad- no wigs to mess with but also less styling options as well as if it gets fucked up you can't replace it easily.

The difference between these two dolls are consistent across companies though-- the 1/6 dolls, the cheaper ones, are only about 11" tall. They are literally the size of a barbie. The 50/60cm are... big. like 24" tall. They're more customizatable and... just have a bigger presence. They are certainly more expensive material-wise.

I don't have a lot of experience in these, so I'll talk about the ones I do:

>>8297555

Volks:
There are several lines offered by Volks under the label "Dollfie" --EB Plus, Dollfie plus, there are a lot of them, but generally they're all about 11" tall. These are just... barbie sized and closer to the quality of a barbie. Their joints are, depending on the line, more noticeable and less attractive.
They're a lot cheaper, too. Some are anime-styled, some aren't.

like http://www.flickr.com/photos/msgeek/3216246720/

Dollfie Dream are what you see here more. They range from $350ish to build your own, to a fuckton for a limited. Limiteds are MUCH more expensive, especially on the aftermarket. Part of this is for liscensing, because volks pays people to use their characters, and the other part is because Volks hates its buyers and want you to pay. Most in these threads are usually Dollfie Dream.

I just generally think obitsu are cheaper and uglier, no matter what size. But that's just me.

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These are all Dollfie Dream, or 50/60cm dolls.

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These are 1/6 dolls I think. I know the first is an Azone Pure Neemo. And I believe the last one is too, but Xodrox needs confirm

>>8297571
Yes, the last two/three you linked are all Azone Pure Neemo

>>8297785

Woops, I got those links confused, it was the red head you posted that I wasn't sure about. 1/6 dolls just aren't my thing-- they're so very small. Pure Neemo are probably the cutest of the 1/6 dolls though

>>8297793
>1/6 dolls just aren't my thing-- they're so very small
I tell myself no all the time but their HNGGGG factor is through the roof.

>>8297168
>I don't like the idea of starting yet another hobby I will have to hide whenever I get motivated and force myself to socialize.
eBay. Lottos or resorting to deputies can be enough to make any new potential doll owner change their mind. Unless you're overpricing them like a scalper you're guaranteed to offload them should the time come to join the normals.

Anyone try this out yet?

How does it feel?

http://www.dollho.com/

>>8296395
>dat lighting
If only I could take you out to lunch and talk composition and gear

Christmas is over, spring is a long time away. Its that worst part of the year again.

>>8298601
>dat lighting
Yeah the color's a bit on the flat side too. That was just using the PEN with the flash bounced off the ceiling. Not my weapon of choice but still a fun camera.

>If only I could take you out to lunch and talk composition and gear
I'd love to hear your thoughts. Despite the insane amount of gear I have, I'm obviously no pro and wish I got more feedback

>>8298601
Hopefully this is more to your liking, and it looks miles ahead of >>8296395 ... at least it does to me. Would definitely like your feedback in more detail though.

>>8297168
The people I know in real life have no idea that I like dolls so much. They don't know a lot of other stuff either.

>>8298797
I disagree

>>8298797
The worst part of the year is Summer. The days are so long and hot. Even the nights are hot.

>>8299233
It's really the smooth lighting under the hood you managed to capture that drew me in. The exterior may seem flat, but for what looks like a "peeking under the hood" shot it worked out pretty well with the overall dimness. Perhaps a crop would explain my perspective.
I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

>>8299379
A completely different shot all together. If she's hiding, why blast her face with a flash? Less harsh shadows may just do the trick. just my 2c

Oh Noumi. What am I going to do with you?

original

>>8300169
The recompose definitely makes a difference. like I said, playing with the PEN, not my weapon of choice, composition wasn't in the forefront of my mind, though it should be.

> Less harsh shadows may just do the trick. just my 2c
Presently I'm using two remotely triggered 430 EXIIs with small softbox diffusers. I guess it's time to back them up and adjust the power?

>>8300187
I'd like to know more about your light source(s). I'm getting the feeling that strobing in a dimly lit office just isn't cutting it anymore

>>8300971
About composition: the point was really to just point out what you've captured. After all, it was a part of a series that had an overall purpose rather than a composition in mind for each.

About your lighting: if I went with soft shadows I'd aim for the way you did >>8296395
Although on further thought, another idea with hard shadows is to position your flash above her to give her a hoodie shadow similar to the way bangs of hair work.

About these lighting: just good old fashion sun light my friend. Although that will be in scarce supply in this season especially for me in the great white north

>>8297555
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Thank you for the replies. I'm going to go search around on the volks website for a while and hope I can figure everything out. I've got extra money after the holidays and I need something to spend it on before I end up wasting it on food, bills, and savings.

Where do people get so many customized dollfies?

I'd love to order one, and I do have the money for one, but as far as I know, all I can get that is new is Aoi and Yukino-- the only thing about these two is that they don't have much to offer. Aoi has a nice face but the body and hair are lacking in my opinion, Yukino has a nicer body but her face really holds no emotion.

Would love advice on customizing/switching out cause my plan is to buy either Aoi or Yukino and really customize them to my liking.

>>8301904

Volks offers character dolls at every Dollpa. It's like once a fucking month anymore.

Either way you can choose from 5 optional heads, whether or not they are in stock is anyone's guess. They just need to be painted.

The thing with Aoi and Yukino is they have the same body, just one has a Medium bust (yukino) and one has a large (aoi) -- Aoi is a DD02 and Yukino is an DD03. You can get any of the 5 heads and paint yourself or have someone else do it.

With eyes and wig, really, you just switch them. Buy Aoi a new wig and she's got a different hairstyle. Yukino has new eyes and she has a different emotion

pic is repainted Aoi with different eyes/hair

>>8302042

Another repainted Aoi with different eyes/hair.

You just take off the doll's hair and put different ones on.

>>8302055

repainted Yukino, diff eyes/hair

>>8302066

Repainted DD03/Yukino with diff. eyes/hair

>>8302077

This is actually a default facepaint Yukino with different eye/hair. I don't think I have any default Aoi

I am currently trying to get a manly job in construction. One of the first things I am going is buying a doll so I can dress it up.

>>8302091

This cute girl is one of their optional heads you'd have to paint yourself, but she is cute. (DD04)

>>8302114
Here, I found you a default Aoi in a different wig/clothes

>>8302128
fuck, dropped my pic

Okay, so after seeing those, I think I will just get Yukino along with a different face and hair. I have no clue as to how I will paint it.

>>8302189

If you intend to paint Yukino, I would just get the body, head, and eyes seperate. The image character, you're paying for the wig, eyes, and face painting that you'll have to wipe. There are lots of places that sell wigs, but personally I like Volks anime eyes best. Obitsu sells some eyes, but not many.

in parts, it should only cost about $350ish

http://www.volksusa.com/dollfie-dream-dollfie-dream.html

There's also a Dynamite body, if that's what you're into, I hear its posing is a bit worse though

http://www.volksusa.com/dollfie-dream-dollfie-dream-dynamite.html

If you buy eyes, head and body separate you don't get the little slip. But you save money and can put it towards a real outfit.

If you have an idea of what hair you want I can point you in a direction. Volks wigs are nice but expensive with limited colors.

leekeworld.com
http://www.cancan-jseries.net/
http://monique.com/MoniqueGoldCollection.html

all have good wigs

ps I own a DD03, good choice

>>8302307

Oh, and I also forgot entirely that DD are in the middle of a revision. If you want the DD2 body, go ahead and buy from Volksusa, but the DDIII is coming out and it's available on

http://www.volks.co.jp/en/dollfiedream/list_dd.html

only through character models. Or you can just buy the head, which has a soft headcap, and a body over at the www.volks.co.jp website. International, shipping is more of course

here's a DDII/DDIII comparison

http://www.figure.fm/post/en/33807/body+DDII+vs+DDIII+comparison.html

just some quick lightplay

... under the bokeh tree.

I'm starting to become more and more interested in dolls. But what I'm wondering about the most is what it is going to cost.

For the 1% of photogs who don't know the secret behind the stars, and the everyone else interested in the stars in >>8302379 and >>8302377

>>8302393

A lot. Depends on size though. The little 11" ones are like $30-100~ but the big ones are usually at least $350 for build-your-own basic, up to several thousand

>>8302417
>up to several thousand
you are talking about those life-size dolls then right?

I kinda fell in love with this doll, I'm assuming if I want a custom made doll like this it's going to cost me around let's say, 380 euro? (about $500)

>>8301335
>About these lighting: just good old fashion sun light my friend. Although that will be in scarce supply in this season especially for me in the great white north
Yup, some dark months ahead. I'm in Michigan so it sounds like we're practically neighbors.
As for sunlight, the largest windows in my house unfortunately face north. Though I guess i could explore the ambience in the other rooms throughout the day. pic related.

>>8302445
>pic related
now with pic

>>8302439
>>up to several thousand
>you are talking about those life-size dolls then right?
I'm not the other poster but I don't think they're referring to life sized ones.
On the second-hand market, some of the older, highly desirable ones like Tamaki Kousaka and Sasara fetch some extremely high prices I've seen them start at over 200,000 yen and more / which is roughly $2600 to start

Go outside and take some pictures with snow, or just pine trees.. or something

>>8302439
Custom dolls naturally have collector value to them.
That adds a heavy human component to each doll's price. Boild down, prices all comes down to "How much am I willing to pay for it?".
Dollfies never reach life size; their largest size is 60cm.
>thousands
http://www.volksusa.com/nagoya4sasara.html
At last check this doll was auctioning for 3000+ USD.

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>>8302439

I'm not good with naming limited models. Is that her?

http://www.volks.co.jp/en/dollfiedream/dd_erika.html

>>8302462
Ya beat me to it.

>>8302463
Doll maintenance increase dramatically if you take them outside. Clothes and hair must be maintained (yes they can be washed just like their human counterparts). Keep in mind that vinyl slowly change color in direct sun light.
Of course, these are for people who either dont give a fuck about attracting attention or mitigate by carefully selecting venues and times.

>>8302593

Vinyl, unlike the resin of most BJDs, doesn't yellow NEARLY as fast. It could be decades before you have a notable difference dude. It's the ABS plastic of the internal frame and where it is visible (like elbows/wrist) that you should worry about when it comes to yellowing

>>8302628
my mistake, in my hurry I mistyped vinyl for resin

>>8302639
That's fine, it's just not a real worry for Dollfie Dream owners.

>>8302628
on the contrary, decades could be an exaggeration. Color shift happens faster than that. Kotori came to me in her santa outfit complete with a heavily stained torso which I promptly replaced. As you can see to the left there's a notable tonal difference between her face, torso and shoulder.

>>8302683

Color shift is different than yellowing. Color drifts from a substance and stains an item from leftover dye.

If you purchased new pieces and that's what you mean, well two things could be happening--one, sealant that colors the face yellows through UV light. I see she still has a default faceup. Often, it isn't UV resistant.

OR it could merely be that the torso you bought wasn't made in the same color exactly-- like dye lots on fabric, while all red fabric from a company is sold as the same color, it's all dyed separately, so some variation can occur

However, if you have just a naked doll, you likely won't notice variation in color from age for a very, very long time

>>8302445 >>8302448
If there's one thing I always wanted to do with my dolls, it's to make a "small doll living in a big world" themed series of photos. Taitan (of http://www.taitan-no.net/ ) might have something like that already done if I recall (I miss his cat).
The biggest challenge I've run into so far is the ability for these dolls to hold anything of any significant mass. I might just make a pulley prop for practical reasons and the HHHNNNGGG

>>8302704
perhaps color shift was the wrong term. The point I was making was that while they won't yellow, they're still vulnerable to other elements that can affect the overall skin color, which may not be noticeable until a fresh piece of vinyl comes along and forces a comparison.

>>8302746
here

>>8289445
>>8289553
>>8289795
are great examples of how well this perspective of doll photography can be done

>>8302769
Glad to see at least one person likes my photos, haha
Do it for fun anyhow

>>8302439
I just bought my first custom piece. 99,000 yen + deputy fees/shipping/customs for a custom head with wig/eyes/clothes. Add the price of a body to that and you get the rough idea of what a custom can go for.

Of course there are cheaper ones... and some that are stupidly expensive (537,000 yen, hello ¬_¬)

>>8302414
Can I do this with my plastic fantastic f1.8 50mm?

>>8302577
Yes that should be Sendo Erika. Not sure if repainted head though.


>>8302439
Realistic estimate:

Pick one
1) Limited Edition Image Character DD (licensed characters from anime and eroge) - $700 - $3000 (price range of direct from Volks to Aftermarket prices)

2) Custom made - about $400 (some work needed, such as face-up making)

Add:
- Clothing - price varies greatly, and you will probably get more than one set. Estimate around $100 per full set of clothing.

- Accessories and other tools such as doll stand

- Camera gear - not really directly related but if you admire dolls you would probably eventually fall into photography too.

As you can see you can go from as budget as around $500 to a bottomless pit of cash drain. Clothing for example can be periodical and you'll just buy more. Don't forget the fact that you'll probably get lured into buying more in the future.

My advice is to stay away from this hobby unless you are very serious and committed, otherwise you will end up selling like some people who jumped too fast into it.

>>8304066
>Can I do this with my plastic fantastic f1.8 50mm?
I shot it with the 50mm F2.5 macro on a subframe so your results should be similar

>>8304186
Alternatively, instead of strapping your "filter" to the front of the lens, you can also insert it if the space is available..

>>8304186
Alternatively, instead of strapping your "filter" to the front of the lens, you can also insert it if the space is available

Doll of a boy who's a trap. Does that make it an action figure or a trap doll or a doll trap or a trap action figure ....
mindisfulloffuck.jpg

>>8302414
Reminds me of that DRTV episode when they tried out bokeh patterns.

bump for photography trick

>>8305216
I didn't think anyone in /jp/ watched this.

>>8306404

> /jp/- Photography

>>8306582
Just occasionally in the doll and figure threads. Also occasionally when Iiniku Ushijima and other gravure photos are posted.

>>8306404

how is the expression? bumpu pantsu?

repost bump

*yawn*

good morning, doll thread!

>>8313884
>Bumping your own thread

How rude.

>>8313887
Not starting a million threads and keeping a niche topic in a single meta thread.

how polite!

>>8313906
wwww

Raise the roof... Dawg...

>>8320118
Bump with HHHHNNNNGGGG Mama Chapp dolls