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Touhou is a deconstruction of the magical girl genre. Discuss.

>> No.8242179

Magical girl genre is a deconstruction of the magical boy genre

>> No.8242184 [DELETED] 
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8242184

> deconstruction
What is this word even supposed to mean?

>> No.8242189

>>8242179
Magical Boys? Like wizards?

>> No.8242186

I know it's what the whole thing's about, but I don't like their silly hats.

>> No.8242193

>>8242184

To simultaneously exist within a genre, and to defy the established norms of that genre.

>> No.8242197

>>8242184
When you deconstruct a work of art, it means that you're looking at the various aspects that make it unique or ``define'' the piece. When you deconstruction a genre, you look at its defining traits but use them in a different way.

>> No.8242207

>>8242193
>>8242197
TV Tropes definition, then.

>> No.8242210 [DELETED] 

>>8242197
> ``define''
Please don't use so-called faggot quotes outside of world4ch. We already get that you visit world4ch. The ASCII specification defines ` as an opening quote and ' as a closing quote for single quotes only. Please use the dedicated " character if you want to use double quotes.

>> No.8242217

>>8242197

No one said you could talk.

>> No.8242247 [SPOILER] 
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8242247

deconstruct this

>> No.8242266

>>8242247
Well, the focal point would most likely be her hair. There is an implied line from her eyes and arms to it. The colors are more flesh toned. The girl stands out the most as the background is simple and one color.

>> No.8242274

We get it. We're not allowed to enjoy Madoka. You can leave now

>> No.8242279

>>8242266
That's not deconstruction. I hope you made that post ironically.

>> No.8242281 [DELETED] 

>>8242274
This is /jp/--you're not allowed to enjoy anything.

>> No.8242286

>>8242279

I only ever post ironically

>> No.8242289

>>8242281
That goes for the rest of 4chan.

>> No.8242291

>>8242279

An alternate meaning of deconstruct is to analyze.

Also, you are an idiot.

>> No.8242301

This thread is a deconstruction of shitposting. Discuss.

>> No.8242309
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8242309

Considering the word "deconstruction" was pretty much made up to substitute for whatever literary process its inventor wanted to refer to bu couldn't isolate by name, he would probably be very happy with the confusion and arguing as it suggests the word is used exactly the way he intended it.

>> No.8242311

>>8242301
If Tokiko is posting, it's pure shitposting.

>> No.8242318

No one cares.

>> No.8242328

Touhou is just something shitty like Naruto or furries that people convince themselves they like to fit into a subculture of misfits to feel accepted somewhere.

>> No.8242333

>>8242207
>TV Tropes definition

Which should be enough for you to tell that it's incorrect and anyone who uses it that way is an idiot, shouldn't it?

>> No.8242335

>>8242328
Why don't we convince ourselves that we like something popular? I don't understand us.

>> No.8242343 [DELETED] 

>>8242328
That reminds me--when did furries become accepted on 4chan? I've been out of the loop for a while, but a few months of lurking and it seems everyone agrees they're fine now.

>> No.8242346
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>>8242328

Sure, I'm far from up to date on Naruto, but I'm still not making the connection between Naruto and furries here...

Also, yes and no, Touhou may or may not be deconstructing anything. ZUN just wanted to make a game with miko and witches for his own personal entertainment, and happened to strike gold.

>> No.8242360

Touhou is just a pile of shit like other subcultures, I meant. It's just a generic scrolling shooter with some shitty 2D girl sprites.

People don't really like it, they just think they do because of wanting to fit in with a clique.

>> No.8242363

If the magical girl genre is so popular, why are the most popular and long running annie mays predominately about boys?

>> No.8242365 [DELETED] 

>>8242360
Pretend that I have autism and answer me this:
Do you really believe this?

>> No.8242366

>>8242363

Because shounen appeals to the lowest common denominator.

>> No.8242370

>>8242343
/co/ trolled /b/.

>> No.8242372

>>8242365
Yes. Touhou is only popular because it's popular. None of you would care about this shit otherwise.

>> No.8242375

>>8242363
Because the only men who watch anime are children, and they care not for female protagonists.
Of course, the other group are middle-aged men. But they watch magical girl shows.

>> No.8242397

>>8242372
Samidare isn't particularly popular, and is of the same general gameplay as Touhou, yet I enjoy it greatly. Your logic is flawed, you've come undone.

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>>8242372

>Touhou is only popular because it's popular.

Is that a koan?

>> No.8242418

I don't even like when NGE is called a deconstruction, let alone Madoka. And I liked both shows.

>> No.8242426 [DELETED] 

>>8242372
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
Are you suggesting that I wouldn't like Touhou unless I had become aware of it, due to its popularity? Because that applies to everything anyone likes...

>> No.8242451

I just realized that by perpetuating the joke and applying the word "deconstruction" to anything and everything, our friends from /a/ have actually thoroughly deconstructed its recent gimmick usage.

It makes me happy, in a way.

>> No.8242460

It definitely is different than the norm.

They are crazy bitches and eat people after all.

>> No.8242482

>>8242426
Touhou is just a pile of shitty fanfiction.

Doesn't anyone else think it's strange that people latch onto these generic characters? People only do it out of group consciousness.

>> No.8242499

>>8242482
>generic characters

Yeah, insane man eating monsters with crazy powers disguised as little girls in frilly clothes is such as overdone cliche.

>> No.8242512

>>8242499
Are you seriously implying Touhou is original? Oh man.

>> No.8242514

>>8242482
>>8242512
It's like I'm on /v/.

Ignore him and carry on, folks.

>> No.8242518

>>8242499
>insane man eating monsters

Umm, what?

>> No.8242521
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8242521

Someone in this thread is not acting with honest intentions.

>> No.8242526

>>8242514
The second guy isn't me.

>> No.8242547

>>8242372
How ironic that Touhou used to be non-mainstream not however long ago and was the sole reason that /jp/ was made, along with VNs.

Now people just think it's popular senseless gaia bullshite.

>> No.8242552

>>8242547
But it is mainstream and lower common denominator. Look at the comiket sales figures.

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