/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I like this idea, but I don't think it'd go anywhere. ;_;

OP is a fujoshi who wants to see Archer and Girugamesh.

I very, very vaguely remember something about a 4chan e-zine like six years ago.

>>8238681

Yeah but it was just a bunch of bullshit from /b/ and useless memes.

Anyway, eh, I don't know if I'd contribute, but I'd definitely read it.

The art will be utterly fucking horrible, and there's absolutely nothing you can do to prevent that no matter how hard you try.
If you're fine with that, go ahead.

Sounds good. I'd be interested.

But for the love of fuck, don't only take 4chan writing. Include stuff from people outside of here. Otherwise you'll have a magazine about maids, lolis, rape, etc.(not that there's anything WRONG with that)

Sounds potentially fun. If you can get it together you should definitely try.

OP here. If I make an email address for the mag would you guys mind emailing stuff there? Of course you should give a synopsis of your stuff here so other people can input/consider doing illustrations.

Sorry if I sound like a fag. I've never done this kind of thing before.

Let's here some ideas!

It could be an interesting medium to explore, just go for serials like in the old times of selling fiction to pulp magazines.
I would read it and contribute to it. Let me know if it ever gets off the ground.

>>8238800

*hear

>>8238802

The only issue with this is you'd have a lot of people who start novels and not finish them, having a lot of discontinued stuff. On the other hand, you could only accept novels that are finished/edited, or stick to shorts/novellas.

Synopsis: Time-traveling aliens that are actually ghosts try to take over the world but are stopped by a warrior of light and his band of silly furry comrades.

>>8238838

>>8238838

So original!

I'm working on a short story now, actually. It's about some slightly tomboyish girl who goes into the army so her life isn't completely meaningless and writes letters to this girl back home who has feelings for her. She mistakes her for a guy because of her androgynous name and comes back home. The bitch who wrote her approaches her. Turns out she knew the whole time but was too embarrassed to acknowledge it. They kiss. GOOD END.

It's not terribly original but it's short, concise and cute. Still editing it.

Idea (Warning I am terrible at writing and ideas please dont't be too critical)

A very beautiful girl loses hope in life after her fathers death she becomes a hikkikomori and gains 200 pounds but then she meets a local boy her age and he helps her lose weight and deal with her depression.

>>8238866

I like this. A lot.

>>8238881

The weight-loss part is disgusting and turns me away, but the rest isn't so bad.


I like this thread. Any more ideas?

OP, if you really want anyone to look twice at this you need a base of sorts. An email is fine for primary communication, but you need somewhere to regroup for this stuff. Start a blog or something. or a new cicrclejerk in an irc channel

Would read. My skill is far too shitty to participate though.

>>8238892
Ah thank you for the feed back!

Could you please explain why you think the weight loss is bad though it seems like a good thing to do.

Street Rats working for a magician in exchange for a place to stay/small amount of magical skill.

Still in the idea phase.

>>8238903

It's just, I can't picture a lot of people who would care about that or want to visualize it. I mean, especially in /jp/. We don't want to read stories about landwhales. Stories about people losing weight tend to be emotional circlejerks directed at middle-aged women in general, and I hope that isn't your target audience. Just some food for thought.

>>8238918
I actually wanted it to be emotional(But not super serious more like comedy drama) story would progress like this

Girl meets Boy

Boy earns her trust

They have fun outside even though she is scared
She starts to lose weight

They become closer as friends and he convinces her to go back to class

She is bullied by class bitch

Then the captain of the girl soft ball club protects her

They become fast friends and she starts to exercise with her

Thus losing more weight

She starts looking happier as she gets back to her old self and starts to notice the boy in a more romantic way

She wanted to confess but the class bitch does instead leaving her heart broken

And I'm kinds stuck here but It seems like something that /jp/ers would like.(They like Kimi Ni Tokode right?)

>>8238951
HOWEVER

Losing that kind of weight would be the process of YEARS. And as such the female lead would be fat during most of the story! This is unacceptable! And don't try to pull the whole "story was just her reminiscing thing either"!

Reading about far people is not up my alley. Not matter what it is,if I'm watching/ reading it I must be able to fap to it. No exceptions! I fap to browsing /jp/! I love you!

>>8238951
This is what would happen.

Girl meets boy

Boy earns her trust

They have fun outside even though she is scared
She starts to lose weight

They become closer as friends and he convinces her to go back to class

She is bullied by class bitch

Then the captain of the girl soft ball club protects her

They become fast friends and she starts to exercise with her

Thus losing more weight

She starts looking happier as she gets back to her old self and starts to notice other boys in a more romantic way

With boosted self esteem, she fucks the boys in the baseball team.

Original boy that helped her out of her despair gets shafted and friend zoned.

"You know it really hurts to have your hymen torn"

And I'm kinds stuck here but It seems like something that /jp/ers could envision as happening in a reality if they ever tried.

>>8238966
So what If instead of being fat she was a recovering teen prostitute?

This sounds like a reckless idea. I'm down.

I have some suggestions though:

1. Start quarterly first, and then if there's a giant surge of submitted stories you could bump it up to monthly.

2. As much as this might hurt your pride to admit, but don't keep this a 4chan thing. /jp/ and /a/ aren't the only places that would be interested in it, don't be afraid to market this to other forums. Sure there will be more shit, but there's a chance that there's something of passable quality.

3. Find someone with an excellent grasp of the English language to copy-edit. Nothing screams "half-assed project" like spelling and grammar errors. A little editing will go a long way.

4. Since this is going to be a Light Novel magazine, there needs to be artists. Hopefully you could find some committed artists, but if anything there could be a submission process like for stories. If the art isn't completely shitty they could have their pick of stories to draw for, and hopefully they could even work together.

Butts

>>8238980
Used goods are also no good! For me!

How about just make her really autistic or something?

>>8238981
If this isn't a /jp/ only thing I will not be assisting!

If you hide the outsiders from me I will never forgive you!

>>8238985
Another Idea then

Mimi is one of 5 prototype Androids sent around the world to try and imitate natural human learning she is sent to Japan to be left in the care of Kazuma a soft and kindhearted scientist she is sent to learn about pre-school-elementary school kids and once she has finished the program her data will extracted and her body recycled.

>>8239027
The ending will make me cry! I can live with this!

I'd write for it.
If it manages to last for a while.
And I wasn't so lazy.
;_;

I'd illustrate for it, if there is no greater artist to be found.

I'd write for it. Or at least I have short stories and longer works that I can contribute to help get this off the ground.

Beyond the light novel theme, is there anything else? Is this oriented more towards realistic or speculative fiction? Or does it not matter?

Like a blog? sounds pretty gay right?

Wow. An actual thread that sounds promising isn't getting trolled, and not devolving into a shitstorm.

I'm really impressed, /jp/. Now if you could just do this everyday, we'd be gold.

>>8239205
That's very quickly about to change now that you've brought it up.

And that was your very intention

If need be, I can try to write down a small story concept I've been playing with for a long time now, about a lamma (those are minor Sumerian goddesses tasked with arranging court formalities and managing the affairs between mortals and the divine) who decided to travel to Japan because she was thrown out of the Kaaba alongside all the other idols back when Mohammad did his spring cleaning. Since the Far East is one of the few places where polytheism continues to thrive and she still has a chance to get a proper shrine there, she grabs her belongings, jumps into the Tigris and starts walking along the river floor with the hopes of first finding the Persian Gulf and then making her way East on the open ocean (Since her body was originally a stone figurine, she doesn't need to breathe and can use submarine travel both as a convenient shortcut and a way to avoid undue attention.)

Obviously, she gets lost. Some 1400 years later and after many misadventures, she manages to surface in Japan and makes herself a somewhat unwelcome guest in the local shrine, maintained by the family of a no-nonsense class president type shrine maiden, who first reacts to the idol's claims to be a deity by calling an insane asylum and then attempts to mail her back to Assur once she is convinced that she's really dealing with a goddess. Sumerian mythology infodumps and various misunderstandings ensue (for example, the lamma would most likely think that old TV sets are gods, because Mesopotamian gods wear horned hats and are placed on raised altars with offering tables in front of them. Clearly, a kotatsu with a basket of oranges placed on it represents an offering table to the august TV-god with its horn-antennae sitting on his table-altar.)

Ideas are a dime a dozen. You can post as many ideas as you want, but this idea will stand or fall depending on how many people actually get any writing done.

OP, how long would stories be for something like this?

The protagonist wakes up and goes to school like any normal day but it's not normal and a monster breaks onto the school campus and corners the protagonist and kills him but as he dies he sees a girl attacking the monster and he doesn't actually die but wakes up in a bed in another world because the girl healed him but now he is indebted to her and has to be her servant and supposedly has some power which is why the monster sought him out in the first place but comedy will ensue because he appears to just be a normal boy and is found to be clumsy with each task she assigns and she is tsuntsun but then they are attacked again but this time the girl is overpowered and the boy is killed again but he's not really killed and after some internal dialogue he comes back to life and unlocks his latent abilities and kills the attacker but his powers part of a rising struggles with the forces of good and evil in the world and the girl and him are caught up in an epic battle and travel through many countries and his harem will grow through their various encounters as he assists random people or defeats antagonists that experience a change of heart or were misunderstood in the first place.

>>8239267
The Sumerian stuff reminds me of Snow Crash.

I've had a story idea I'd been trying to flesh out for a while now but haven't had a good idea for it in a while, so here goes - some of you might recognize it.

>In a post-apocalyptic future, where shelter and resources are scarce, a man with a special musical instrument known as an Ord tries to spread joy to the wavering hearts of the survivors of the great catastrophe. Along with him is his companion, a meek little mute girl, who is the only one able to play the Ord. They travel from place to place, and try to be accustomed to the lifestyle of the traveler in a harsh, dying world.

I've figured out how they'd meet and how the story would end, but I'm stuck in the "journey" part, on how to connect start to end. Maybe if we decide to do this thing, I might get some motivation to get the old juices flowing again...

Hmm? It looks like interest has already dwindled. Congratulations, /jp/! It only took you a record 3 hours and 1 minute to completely lose interest this time!

>>8239404
There was a post 6 minutes before yours, idiot.

>>8239390
A still active war mech encounters the girl and kills her. Cue tragic death scene. THE END

I had an idea for something a few days ago until I realized it was just Crank with a government conspiracy and "no falling sleep" instead of "have to keep your adrenaline up".

Unless you excercise quality control your magazine is going to be another medium for shitty fanfics.
However if you do exercise quality control your magazine won't have enough content to fill it up.

I don't think the idea is good or marketable, but try studying how actual literary publications deal with their problems and for the love of god, try finding authors outside of 4chan.

I don't know why we'd need to get authors outside of 4Chan, not to mention outside of /jp/. It's just a random OC generating event, much like the drawthreads which pop up every once in a while, so does it matter if it's up to par with other publications?

Basic proofreading and other grammatical corrections aside, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't OP's intention simply to get creative with his fellow anons and churn out something we call look back at and be proud of or laugh at.

OP here. I think I'm going to give this a shot, publishing stuff on a blog for now. If you guys are interested in writing or doing illustrations, email me. I'll ask a few people outside of /jp/ who are pretty competent if they have anything to contribute too. I want to make sure the product is good quality fiction so I'll be picky, probably limiting it to 3-4 stories for now. Illustrations are another story.

Feel free to submit (complete) writing or demo illustrations to jpanoneditor@gmail.com. I'm also lost as far as a name for it is concerned. I liked the Dengeki and Type-Ace magazine titles (the content inside them aside) but can't think of one for this.

>>8239390

>In a post-apocalyptic future

Stopped reading there.

I was thinking about writing something, but realized that the only decent idea I had for a story that fit the medium was depressing, pointless, and would probably be received as some half-hearted attempt at deconstruction, so I'll probably pass.

This sounds like fanfiction.net

>>8240836
This is more like a filter for it where you'll only be reading stories written by people on /jp/.

bump for interest

>>8239390

Hate to rain on the parade, it's been done. And filmed.
It starred Kevin Costner and a donkey.

I'd illustrate for it, sounds fun but it depends on what content the stories will have...

>>8239390
do an Inganock or Kino-style thing, a few chapters where they reach a new city/settlement and a simple, short story to the point each time. Think about funny/depressing dystopian quirks for each city. Build shit along the theme you want the game to have.
The story no tbeing that original shouldn't stop you, it's better for a writer to start on established genres tropes at the beginning.

>>8242527

Going to try to stick to darker material with a little comedy here and there and go light on the sci-fi/fantasy (tons of magazines for those already).

Why not use Wiki software for this? It seems like the best thing to do. There's a lot of sites with free ones and plenty of dead ones you could hijack.

I'd love to help if I could.

I'd like to draw comics for it, if that's okay. I'd also $10 per issue if the whole thing is put together very nicely and professionally.

No mentions of /lit/'s e-zine?
Not sure if they still do it, but it was pretty entertaining.

>>8242906

So what kind of illustrations are you looking for? Darker, grittier stuff?

>>8242933
>No mentions of /lit/'s e-zine?
I was going to, but I decided it was for the best that I didn't.

Has anyone else submitted anything to jpanoneditor@gmail.com ? Sent some sketches but that's about it, hoping some good writers will submit....

>>8243001
Trying to write a full thing for submission rather than just loose ideas. Hope that it will be alright to send it late in the weekend.

>>8242211
Yeah, but it won't necessarily be better.

At first I thought you meant like a news article relating to LNs. I could see /jp/ maybe doing it, a /jp/ related news magazine.

>>8243171
Ｔhis done properly would be so useful I'd think about donating to it. Latest news and information on all sort of /jp/ interests would be great to have since no one would need to dig through mountains of shit for it here anymore.

It might also convince VN translation guy to come along after this place is gone.

Why don't you guys just cooperate with the OC thread?

so what do you guys call 'light novels' im curious

>>8243609
okay

>>8243507

Illustrated novels that don't detail every blade of grass in the story.

>>8243507
Dialogue-driven stories with short paragraphs, usually containing manga-style illustrations. You can call pretty much anything a light novel nowadays though.

Hey guess what this sounds like a FANTASTIC idea.

You should get a trip and come up with a NAME for this project. I propose 'Anon Creative Outlet', for example. People interested in creating stuff can keep that name in mind, even if they're not going to write now. One day though, if they feel adventurous they can just submit their writings.

There have been suggestions of writing stuff on IRC before (don't know if those guys are still around, if they are, ask them to join this one), but IRC requires some commitment and communication, and /jp/ers are known to be terribly shy. While with this, you should let people post ANONYMOUSLY to encourage them. When there are enough stories for an edition, publish it on /jp/ and let people rate the stories. That way, the good writers can become encouraged, while the bad ones can work on improving themselves without the humiliation. Really, it's the first edition that is the toughest part. Once you get over that, if the stories are good, chances are people will become a lot more interested.

But since it's something new, start with short stories (preferably <5000 words). People have short attention spans on the internet, it's easier to hook them with unique and interesting short stories than a series of novels by a complete amateur.

Report in a week with an update, OP.

I'd participate with what I have, but it's not quite right in its current form.

I've got several ideas, but I'm still cutting them down and working with them. They're still just a plot and character summary, which is everything needed for a story, but nothing as far as anyone's concerned.

They were also originally VN ideas, which means that they're a bit too open ended for the LN style.

I'll see if I can come up with a writing sample if you need more writers.

How about those hentai short stories I get to see once in every blue moon. Then again, most of them have already been immortalized as pastas... but I reckon there's nothing wrong with putting them in the magazine to make them unofficially "official".

>>8243807
I'd prefer just original stories unless we are struggling to fill some space. At least that's what I'm writing for right now instead of sending in old pieces.

OP here. For lack of a better title, I'll call this the "/jp/ Light Novel Group." If someone can think of something better let me know. As a trip, uh... I guess this works.

Lets see some rough drafts/concepts, /jp/. The email's already in the thread. I'll bump this occasionally and see what we have in a week, then see if illustrators want to work on anything in particular. First "issue" will just be /jp/ stuff, and once again, I'm going to try to pull talent from places outside /jp/.

Bookmarked. Hope this is still here in the morning, OP. 'Night guys.

Short stories are fine right OP?

Also, how about previously published works (in blogs or other site) but not in english yet?

So you are going to start a blog where you talk about the VNs you played? How original... good luck with that.

>>8243962
Did... you even read... ANYTHING in this thread?

>>8243950

>how about previously published works (in blogs or other site) but not in english yet
>(in blogs or other site) but not in english yet
>but not in english yet
>not in english

.... What?

You should title this whole thing /ln/- Light Novels/General. Seriously.

>>8243980
Like if I published my work in my personal blog before, but in foreign language. Technically it's not a new work made specifically for this project, but since it's not in English, it's a "new" work for /jp/.

This is a horrible fucking idea, on par with that Another Dream shit from a couple of years back. Go to fanfiction.net if you want an audience for the abortions you people think pass as writing.

>>8244252
Fanfiction by definition needs to be based on an existing body of work.
There is nothing that guarantees high quality so far, but there's no reason to dismiss it just because a lot of original fiction is shit.

Another Dream was shit because it had no barrier of entry and it was all around touhou and nothing more. That restricts what you get already. As I see it, this is just an attempt of doing something like those prose magazines with a lot of short stories, hoping that something in all of that will attract the reader.

That said, I hope there's strong editing and no fears to hurt some feelings by rejecting objectively bad content. It's the only way to keep a semblance of quality, even if it takes longer to get enough pieces for a release.

>>8244252

So mad.

Thread necromancy.

Light Novel Club - Cute girlstranssexual men doing cutelewd things

How are your submissions coming along?

age for night

Well there certainly seems to be interest in this project, which is nice. What you guys need is a sample magazine cover with cute art--you know, like Dengeki Whatisitcalled and Type-Ace. The cover will draw people in. You should put generic trope characters on the front, not particular characters from any stories but the kinds of people you'll expect readers to read about, since you aren't deciding on stories yet.

Some generic ideas:

>Girl with a sherlock-holmes Fedora and bunny ears smoking a pipe.
>Yandere maid with empty-eyes.
>Dude in a suit with a chainsaw.
>Classy bitch in a trenchcoat and meganne.

Etc. You guys seem to be going for thought-provoking/scary/gruesome themes so eh.

Best of luck.

>>8247677

>>8249554
I've got like 1 chapter of a story I've been writing slowly along.

I wonder if that would be enough? It's like 6 pages in Microsoft Word. I'll definitely not finish anything more that's very significant till the deadline.

>>8248760
get mugen to draw the cover. it'll sell like hotcake

>>8249648
You mean onions.

>>8249648

>Mugen
>Onions

>89 replies

Oh boy.

So anyway, so far we've got:

- Two stories
- Two offers to help with technical aspects
- Zero illustrations.

I submitted an ad to a different writing website so hopefully I'll get more writing submissions later today.

Which would you guys rather see this as? A blog or just a PDF on a website? Doing both is an option, obviously.


>>8248760

These sound adorable. If anyone wants to draw them I can shop them into a magazine cover.

Thanks for the continued interest, guys.

>>8251321
A PDF.
Blog for releases/teasers is fine, but not for content.

>>8251313

That's a tomato, you moron.

>>8251321
A pdf release is better

Are you looking for assistance with editing?

>>8251321
Hey, editor anon, did you receive my email to you? It's from jpanonloliwriter@yahoo.com. If you didn't, I'll probably mail you using a different mail server.

You have my interest. I'm not too confident in my writing ability but if this actually gets off the ground I might submit something.

Godspeed. We need more original content around this place.

I want to contribute. My art is terrible, but I have something I think is an okay idea for a story..

A boy knows the exact amount of days he has left in his life, and has utterly given up hope on achieving anything. He thinks nothing matters to him since he has no time to change anything about the world, no time to get married, have a job, or whatever it is normal people do.

Then he meets two girls, one who attempts to change his mind, and one who lacks hope just as he does.

>>8254387
It could be an interesting exploration, but I'm afraid it will thread on a dangerous line of making the protagonist utterly unlikeable. It will all fall on how good you can execute it.
Don't worry too much though, good editor work can help you polish it and show its full potential.

Way I see it, instead of going hopeless it makes every day all the more precious. Many live because they think it will last forever, everything you put off today can be accomplished tomorrow. But seeing a very real counter go down whenever you go to sleep and realize you wasted a day that won't be compensated in any way, well, you either learn to seize life, or go hopeless and waste time until that arbitrary number ticks down to 0.
I like this idea, go for it.

>>8254387
I really, really, really don't like to do that.
But this idea is shit. It's pretentious, unimaginative, and sounds like something a teenager would come up with.
To make it work in any way, you'd have to be a good writer, with a fair amount of experience.
Are you, anon-kun?

>>8254456
It does sound pretentious, which I guess is why I posted the idea here. I've written a bit of it, and maybe if I share a short bit of it with someone, they could say if it was shit or not. I'm not experienced, and I'd be lying if I said I was great, though I don't think I am particularly bad, I guess.

I don't mind hearing if it is awful, I just wanted to throw something of mine out there. There isn't any harm in it. If it is terrible, just don't include it in the magazine.

>>8254456

Not everyone's good at pitching their ideas. He should just fucking write it, edit it and submit it and get critique.

>>8254507
As somebody said (don't remember who), don't write a story unless it's your own journey in which you have discovered something and wish to impart something to your readers.

Sure many writers love to portray angst, introduce unnecessary drama for money. But you aren't that kind of writer. I hope you will write something poignant, and leave the readers something to think about instead of predictable drama.

You have my support.

Just give up. Not only would it be horrible, but it would be a waste of time. And you don't have enough motivation to do it.

You're completely pathetic. You can turn to dust and die now!

>>8255488
Sorry mate, don't have the motivation to die, either. Maybe, if you'll be willing to put in the effort, you can come here and choke me or something.

>>8255488
It's not like I don't have plenty of time available anyway, using some of it to try to create something would be better than any other option.

I will read it OP.
Just make sure you spam it in /jp/ every day because I'm going to forget about it otherwise. Bookmarks and stuff are too much work~

>>8255478
Welp, project is ruined.

>Several days since the beginning of this thread
>Still no title for magazine/blog in progress

>>8256997

'/jp/ Bunko NEET'

>>8256997
Monthly PDFile

If op is still doing this, I got an idea. Forgive the names, but I couldn't come up with anything more generic.
A girl, named Rin has just move in to the city after living in the country. She is out one night after late club activities when she see an incident. A mugger assaulting a young women, that the protagonist recognizes as teenage internet idol Alice. Rin rushes to save Alice by pretending to call the cops. After the mugger flees Rin discovers that Alice is actually a boy, and she is hired by Alice as "her" partner. The two work together to make it in the city.

>>8257397

Ideas are cheap. Write the godamn story.

>>8256997
Who are you quoting?

I wish I could write something that doesn't come out like shroom trips.

Bumping before bed. Hope you guys can come up with a title soon.

>>8257022
I think this one has an interesting ring to it.

I'd read it. I might even help edit it if you want.

Me again. We really need more submissions, artwork and (as others have pointed out) a title for the damn thing, so feel free to email anything of interest. For everyone who's already emailed me, the email now lists a name instead of "The Editor," but they're coming from the same place.

>>8259674

Get a Tumblr or something. It takes less than ten seconds.

I am a fairly talented writer and would be willing to contribute short stories. However, my stories might not even contain moeblob cute girls. The horror. How would the magazine feel with some non-traditional works--maybe even seinen-type writing?

You should get at least one longer story that can span over more than one issue, to get people excited for the next one.

Question, isn't there something like this on the net already?

how about making a simple first issue, and then recruit more people afterwards when people realize it is actually a real project. otherwise we are just discussing another dead project.
RIP touhoumoon.

When you write your blog OP. Make sure you mention how Kanade is the best girl.

>>8260192
Yeah it was Karui Shosetsu and they only had one issue.
>>8238981
I'll add:
Schedules: Abuse them to the max, make sure everything's done two weeks in advance so that if last minute things need to be adjusted, you have time to do it.
Editors: Get them as well as content filterers as that will help to "up" the quality.
Diversity/Niche: See where you want to go with this and then execute accordingly (although you're going to aim for diversity first).

Make sure that all Copyright is retained to their owner, OR you have some setup where you can't be liable for Copyright issues.

Finally, FINALLY, if money is involved (as in paying people) make sure to aware the parties immediately and to act according with the distributions (As well as tell people that money is involved).

>>8256609

>>8260310
I don't know about the other anons and the OP, but I'm not inclined to get money rolling around in this little project. Makes things quite complicated. Though it would be like a dream to actually earn something form this, I'd rather not bother with all the kinds of shit involving money talks, in any way or form.

Besides, if money isn't involved.... it makes it more... pure(?). Like, from the heart sort of shit. Rather than it degenerate into something that tries to please the paying crowd and whatnot.

>>8260460
Agreed but I'm saying that make sure that it's clear NO MONEY IS INVOLVED. When producing this..

>>8259716
If it's good no one cares what it's about. Even electronic brain pancake crystal elderly.

I'd love to draw something like an illustration for a story, even though my skills are terribad.

>>8260524
I have a friend who may want to get in on this: Can you have an official site so we can get this started?

I could help in Illustrations.
Although my art is in the mediocre / mid tier / average, I could at least do it for experience or something.

Just tell me who to contact for anything.

I could make fanime for you guys

This is promising, but as >>8260214 said, we need to get something tangible or it's going to die.

I suggest starting an IRC Channel, more fast paced and open than an imageboard, and fleshing it out more.

Oh wow, this thread has been up for about 5 days and I didn't know it existed.

I haven't made a real effort to write a story in well over a year, but I think I have enough time to knock something out for this first issue.

>>8260709
Shut up.

Started a blog for the project. Name kind of sucks but whatever, it's a working title.

http://nocturnesonline.blogspot.com/

I'm quite handy with Illustrator and reasonably well versed in typography, so if you need any of that sort of help, I'll be glad to assist.

Yeah, the name kind of sucks.

>>8261811

I like it, actually. Assuming it's an intentional shout-out to John Connelly's short story book.

>>8261803
You should have a post that tells people how to submit things.

>>8262125

Working on it now.

>>8262283
Good, keep up the good work.

>>8262283
I have shit to do this week then, fuck yeah.

How long do you want writing submissions? Or is it completely up to the author?

>>8262458

There's a submissions guideline page now. I'll be accepting submissions to the end of January, just so I've got a good amount of material to choose from and everyone can submit their best stuff.

>>8262494
Okay I told my friend and he should send you stuff in a bit

You guys should try looking for artists in this thread.

>>>/a/58627920

I don't think you guys are going to attract a lot of attention unless you at least put up some cute generic anime drawings and pull a few (on the internet) notable writers. Right now you just look like a failing fanfiction circlejerk.

>>8248760
You reminded me about this. Something posted in the drawthread a while back.

>>8263566
>I don't think you guys are going to attract a lot of attention unless you at least put up some cute generic anime drawings and pull a few (on the internet) notable writers
>a few (on the internet) notable writers

So if they went and said "Hey, here's a story by the guy who did Misha's route in Katawa Shoujo" people would flock to this?

Bullshit.

>>8263623

>>So if they went and said "Hey, here's a story by the guy who did Misha's route in Katawa Shoujo" people would flock to this?

Actually, that would probably catch SOME people's interest.

Who the fuck does the writing for that game, again?

>>8263634

I am doing it in an alternate dimension where everything is fine and nothing is wrong

>>8263566
> I don't think you guys are going to attract a lot of attention unless you at least put up some cute generic anime drawings and pull a few (on the internet) notable writers. Right now you just look like a failing fanfiction circlejerk.

I beg to disagree with getting a notable writer since that would mean actually getting someone to vet the idea. That's not necessarily possible. Just getting an issue out should be the key.

Plus it seems like people are attempting original content.

Would this be a short story only project, or would you consider publishing chapters for a bigger story?

>>8263764

The submission guidelines say 3000-5000 words, I think.

>>8263799
5000 words is awfully short for quality OC

>>8263810

5000 words is actually a decent sized short story. I'd rather read shorter good stories than longer fluff. Plus just about every good novelist ever start off writing short stories.

>>8263799
http://nocturnesonline.blogspot.com/p/submissions-issue-deadline.html
It says 1000-3000 now.

I propose changing it to 1000-5000. There is no need to put such strict limits when we're trying to encourage people. And 'The Japanned Box', the length of which is about okay for storytelling, is approximately 5000-word long as well.

>>8263836
>implying that you can only be a good author if you start with short stories.

Well, there goes my dreams...

>>8263900
There is a huge leap between what he said and whatever you quoted.

>>8263900

Full baka, anta.

>>8263879

Done.

>>8263879
There shouldn't be a max limit at all, just a minimum to prevent zero effort submissions.

>>8263926

No, because then faggots who expect someone to critique and review their entire fucking novel will submit shit just for the free input. Jesus.

>>8263810
A short story is typically something like 1-7k words and it's not like there's a shortage of quality short stories.

Anyways this sounds interesting and I've been wanting to write another short story while I struggle with writer's block with a novel. However I'm looking at the guidelines and see
>Stories which are purely Romance, Sci-Fi, Fantasy and Comedy will be rejected. Having elements of any or all of these is fine, however.
Which I don't get. By that I mean I don't get the reasoning for this restriction and I also don't get what type of fiction you are looking for. You should describe what kind of writing you want, not just what you don't want.

>>8263950

I assume that means they're trying to shoot for the mystery/horror/drama range, since they don't discourage those genres and the description does say "grittier."

>>8263764

I meant more like a chapter or two with each release, rather then a lot of chapters in one go.

Feel free to ignore this if you understood and answered.

>>8263986

Written Metal Hurlant?

Considering this post has over 150 replies, I REALLY hope the OP managed to create a website and draw some interest.

>>8264231

He did. >>8261803

>>8264231
I also hope you never post again. Contrary to what you might think, we don't need someone who has not read the thread.

so writebros, how goes your stories?

>>8264915
"Workin' on it"

>>8264915
Still getting some well needed advice from editor anon. I'd like to make sure I'm set at a well thought out path before I write anything.

>>8264915
Stuck on idea phase. Got nothing worth telling at the moment and it's making me anxious.

>>8264915
Sucks. I can't do short stories for shit.

Anytime I try coming up with an idea, I can't help but make it bigger.

>>8265751

You can't think in terms of simple plotlines? That's really going to come back to bite you. Just saying.

I'm making a thread about this on a forum I often go to, is this okay?

>>8266680

Do it. Worst thing that happens is that no one is interested.

I'm still not entirely certain about what kind of stories OP wants.

>Light novel
What elements does a story need to have to qualify as a 'light novel'? Is it just any story as long as illustrations are added to it? Would the quarterly bundle of short stories - the future of which has not yet been ascertained at this point - require a more elementary writing style than the literature of current time, which oft is riddled with superfluous phrasings, the effect of which is sometimes said to hamper storytelling yet is loved by many readers? Or is more complicated writing okay as well?

I wonder if there are any suggestions/requirements regarding writing style as well.
Could the story be written in a more passive third person past tense, or was the first person present tense more preferred, the writer wondered.
But as I was writing this, I also thought of the possibility of having the protagonist directly tell the story to the reader. You know, the kind of style where it feels like the character is talking to you, the reader, directly? That's the kind of style I'm talking about here. It was just like that.

>focusing on grittier fiction
What is 'grittier'? A lone warrior killing hordes of zombies in a post-apocalyptic wasteland? An organized crime ring which nobody wants to be part of, but nobody dares to leave? A person trying to run from his past, only to be faced again and again with the life he tried to leave behind him? Cynical and sarcastic comedy? Are non-gritty contributions even allowed?

>>8267393
>What elements does a story need to have to qualify as a 'light novel'?
Short paragraphs
Concise, down-to-earth language--no flowery, excessive description, no adverbs
Driven by character and dialogue, as opposed to plot and description
Motivated primarily by entertainment, easily digestible, no scholarly pretension (ooh lookit im using metaphors)
Novella length (~200 pages, maybe 30,000 words.)

Basically a light novel is a novella without the literary merit, and about ten times as entertaining. But then again, a light novel is different from a short story. It seems we are submitting the latter.

>I wonder if there are any suggestions/requirements regarding writing style as well.
Literature is written in past tense.
For entertainment value and engagement of the reader, 1st and 2nd person are probably preferred.
It's better to stick to some level of realism.

>What is 'grittier'?
real deal stories for real deal readers like myself
>Are non-gritty contributions even allowed?
disney shit

I just want to add that a good short story is short, condensed, and self-contained. It should be a complete story in its own respect. The reader must be motivated to continue at every instant and rewarded--you cannot stagnate with boring, arduous development when you are at risk of losing interest at every second.

I support its choice as a submission format. It's better practice than cranking out a 50,000 word shitstain that no one wants to read. The people who are able to create stable, competent stories with transient, likable characters are the ones whose Japanophile LNs I might actually be inclined to read. It's easier to edit, too.

bump for the closest thing to an OC thread currently on /jp/

OP would you be interested in my dream diary?

>>8267715

You could make a story out of your dream diary?! Mines full of random shit.

>>8267677

>Driven by character and dialogue, as opposed to plot and description
>Motivated primarily by entertainment, easily digestible, no scholarly pretension (ooh lookit im using metaphors)

Tell that to Urobochi.

>>8267677

>>8267677
>no scholarly pretension

Despite the fact that you managed to skillfully cram enough pretentiousness into that one post to equally match 10 short stories worth of delusions of literary merit. You surely deserve a medal.

>>8267918
You're right, because I was totally writing a short story with that post, not answering a legitimate question in detail.

Here's a question: why are you such an idiot?

>>8268025

>I have a bachelor's degree in Useless Literature, look at me use all these long pretentious sentences! Surely I must be a fantastic writer.

Faggot.

The chief editor for this thing is an asshole.

>>8268129
Oh, good. Editors are supposed to be ruthless.
I was afraid we'd get someone afraid of offending anyone and get in the end something that could have been better, but wasn't because the editor wasn't forceful enough.

Now I look forward to finish my submission even more.

>>8268129

You mean he actually does his job and doesn't give a shit about hurting your feelings?

>>8268110
>frustrated greentext sockpuppeting
shh baby there there

Why don't you wipe your tears and explain to me which parts of my post were too 'pretentious' for you to understand? I'll get a dictionary and we can go through it together, word by word, I promise.

We'll even review what "pretentious" means, so you won't apply the word to everyone smarter than you like a confused tard from now on, ok?

Whatever happened to posting politely?

So if I want to submit an ilustration...I draw whatever I want? Or it has to be part of a story?

>>8248760

Haven't posted on here in a bit. Nice to see there's a lot of interest in this, still.

Initial illustration submissions for the pilot issue can be whatever, the ideas in >>8268512 aren't bad for a start. After the stories come in you can pick and choose what you'd like to draw for, or you can just do a generic drawing for the cover.

>>8268578

Sorry, posted the quote links in the wrong order.

>>8265428
>>8265719
>>8265745
>>8265751
So, we've got at least 4 writefags, who are now "working on it". Who knows how long that'd take. How about drawfags? I heard we need at least a colored cover. How many drawfags are also "working on it"? Any drawfag/writefag pair collaban?

>>8268789
I'm aiming for a first draft this weekend. I think I can get an artist I know interested in a collaboration if the story is good enough for them.

>>8268789
I'm on the fence. Considering submitting something already written, considering writing something new. I'll probably submit either way.

time for a thread revival

>Hey /a/ I tried writing a light novel so can you please tell me if it's shit or good? I'm a 25 year old with no job so I thought I should start something if I was just going to sit here at home all day.

>http://zettaanon.blogspot.com/2011/12/obsolete-potential-chapter-1-iminonai.html

>And I thought /a/ would be the best person to ask for opinions from. Thanks

>>8271660

Saw that thread, earlier. Here I was thinking I'd finally purged it from my memory.

Pitched my current outline and got interest from an illustrator. This should be good. Now to actually write down a draft.

>>8268578
I will try drawing one of those then

What happened to that IRC of writefags and their little wiki?

>>8272360

Nice. Make sure to post it here when you're done.

>>most replies among all the /jp/ threads, even GUST

Are dese niggas serious?

Debating if I should send in the outline while I work on the first draft to get early comments.

In regards to possible magazine cover art...what will the dimensions of the magazine be?

>>8273731

Just work on the story until you get something you're happy with, then send it in/

is OP still here?

>>8275531
Try looking up him on the website.

>>8275531

I don't know about the rest of you, but he answered my email pretty quick, so shoot him a line I guess.

>>8274109
You guys should draw a cute mascot for the cover

>>8276987

Seconding this. The publication's name is "Nocturne" so why not have it be a goth loli playing a violin or something? Sounds pretty suiting. Then I can write a short story about her.

I'm actually very interested in this. I've been writing a novel for some time now and it's pretty light novel-esque since there's a lot of conversation. There's a bit of description but that's only because I never considered there to be any art for it.

>>8277084

>I've been writing a novel

No one cares, and OP's guidelines specifically ask for shorts. Out of, /jp/, get, etc.

I picked 2 stories from my dream diary that could be kinda interesting to read. where can I post them? does the email address posted earlier still work?

>>8277195
A novel could easily be a series of short stories, you know. There's no need to be so discouraging.

I'll just have to ask a few questions to OP, I suppose.

>>8277228

Yes.

/jp/ - Fanfiction.net

well I just sent the editor a email. is there a blog or site i can follow? this thread is dense

>>8277497
spoonfeedbabby.jpg

http://nocturnesonline.blogspot.com/

>>8277497
http://nocturnesonline.blogspot.com/p/submissions-issue-deadline.html

Here you go bro - this is a blog that the OP created.

>>8277226

If they're all individual stories that don't rely on each other for things to make sense then it's fine I guess. Otherwise you're pretty much ignoring OP's guidelines.

In b4 no one's submissions get accepted.

When's it due to be released, anyhow? I have a Tsukihime BGM playlist all ready.

>>8277523

Deadline is January 28th, so around Valentine's Day maybe? Way to be ironic, OP. Heh.

I was writing a novel and wanted to release them in chapters over the course of many PDFs.

But I guess that's a no-go seeing the responses and guidelines.

>>8277639
I spoke with the Editor and he said that he might consider it if you can prove you can write good short stories and be a competent writer overall. You'll have to be making consistently good publications and such.

>>8277658
You mean, write a few short stories before doing the novel chapter submissions?

>>8277661
I suppose so. Start small and prove you can write a good short story that's good and memorable. Then if you're good enough you can bump up to bigger publications. That's what I'm getting, anyway.

If you want any more info/clarification/etc, just send him an e-mail. It's on the blog.

>>8277666
Eh. That doesn't sound too appealing to me. But I suppose I can write mini-prologues concerning the main characters of the novel.

I really didn't want to give too many details away about the characters and their motives though, so they'd probably end on cliffhangers or unresolved.

>>8277750
>BAWWW IT'S A SHORT STORY ISSUE BUT I DON'T WANT TO WRITE SHORT STORIES BAWWWW

I know I'm probably overreacting here, but it really pisses me off when someone talks shit about short stories but is always "working on" a novel or book or something. If you can't write something short and sweet and self-contained you're a weak writer, or even just a shitty one. Enjoy writing fifty-thousand words of fail that will never go anywhere.

Also

>they'd probably end on cliffhangers or unresolved.

In other words they aren't even short stories.

>>8277795

So mad.

>>8277795
>I know I'm probably overreacting here, but it really pisses me off when someone talks shit about short stories but is always "working on" a novel or book or something. If you can't write something short and sweet and self-contained you're a weak writer, or even just a shitty one. Enjoy writing fifty-thousand words of fail that will never go anywhere.
I'm not "talking shit" on short stories. I have a story I want to tell, and it's too long to be a short story. There's also a difference between wanting to, and being able to. Stop making assumptions in your blind anger and bias.

>>8277865
How about just submitting something else then, rather than giving people vague glimpses of your magnum opus

>>8277865
His point was: it's a short story serial, stop crying that you want to submit something that doesn't fit the criteria.

Stopping by to check up on you guys, as some of you emailed me I got back to you guys as quickly as I could. I'm glad to see this thread has generated so much interest, even if people are only just now starting to write. Illustrators were my biggest concern, but apparently one or two people are already considering it. That's fantastic, and I'm glad to see some of you doing your best.

Right now I'm tinkering around with the website and editing the actual magazine structure, formatting the pages for the pilot issue. As opposed to just making a PDF with a ton of text I'm rearranging the text on the page so it looks more like the inside of an issue of Dengeki Bunko. Granted, since English isn't read vertically it's going to look different, and I'm putting white spots where illustrations will be.

I'll keep you guys posted. Keep writing, drawing, and taking it easy. I'll be making a new thread tomorrow.

>>8278488
Do link the new thread from here, since this is the ony page I've got bookmarked for this project. Better yet, post a link in the blog for the most recent thread.

>>8278488
So...about the dimensions of the magazine so one could figure out how to properly draw a possible cover...

>>8278488

Speaking of which, does anyone still have those raw scans of Fate/Apocrypha from Type-Moon Ace? I'm interested in taking a look at those, myself.

>>8278488
Also, can we do something about that title? I can't say I'm quite fond of it. It sounds.... well, I'm going to use a buzzword now, but I hope you'll get what I mean anyway - pretentious. Not to mention it severely implies deepness of the contents, which, I think, would severely hamper more light-hearted themes.

And maybe that's what you're going for all along, but since this is a free OC-generating activity, I suppose we shouldn't constrain the creativity of te other spectrum of writers. I, myself, am more fond of light-hearted stories, so I can at least speak for myself, that it'd be hard to write such a story in a magazine called Nocturne. Maybe something general, like "The Quarterly /jp/" or, quoting to a previous post, "The PDFile"

>>8278796

>I can't say I'm quite fond of it.
>I, myself, am more fond of light-hearted stories
>I can at least speak for myself, that it'd be hard to write such a story in a magazine called Nocturne

Way to make it all about you, dude.

The title's fine. If OP wants to focus on darker material there's nothing wrong with that as long as it's GOOD. If you can think of a better title, tell him that. But really, I think you're the first person in this thread to say "I couldn't write for a magazine with that title, it's just horrible." OP's jumping through a lot of hoops even though this thing I going to be nonprofit as it is, so just deal with it.

Or submit something somewhere else I guess.

>>8278834
Though I must amusedly say that you're wrong about me, it doesn't matter since I'm posting anonymously.

Still, the focus of my post is whether or not the creative potential of all writers here are being met. Given the population of /jp/, it's surely a given that most submissions will be deep or grimdark. However, most is not all, and that is what I am trying to make OP notice. Of course whether or not he gives a damn about the minority is none of my concern, so long as he notices it.

>>8278872
Aside from the title, the blog states:
>"Nocturnes" is a light-novel magazine focusing on grittier fiction
>Stories which are purely Romance, Sci-Fi, Fantasy and Comedy will be rejected.
It's clear that the editor doesn't want that minority. Which is well within his rights.

I normally don't write gritty stuff and the story I started writing for this has turned out not as gritty as expected, so I probably just won't submit it. But I don't hold anything against the editor for wanting a specific type content.

>>8278941
You know, as cool of an idea as I think this whole project is, I can't help but imagine that if someone had suggested creating a VN with a plot that was "deep/grimdark" or "gritty", their project would've gotten laughed at/ trolled into oblivion.

Actually, we've been using the word gritty for a again and again now and I just stared wondering, what the fuck does gritty mean anyway? Based on what I've read here, it seems to meed deep, dark and emo shit, but when I made google look for it, it told me this:

>1. consisting of, containing, or resembling grit; sandy.
> 2. resolute and courageous; plucky.

or, less elegantly,

>harsh, coarse, rough and unrefined, as in film depictions that portray life as it truly is, without false distortions, stylizations, or idealizations. Often, the realism is exaggerated such that the culture or society being portrayed appears more coarse than it really is.

so what did OP mean "gritty"? Does he want dark dark shit? Or does he want realistic type shit? Because my /jp/ biography seems a candidate for the second definition. Just as well, the second definition roughly crosses out fantasy wholesale.

Wouldn't you feel kind of bad and a little alienated if your story is not published, but several of lower quality are?

This is what prevents me from participating

>>8279093
Hmm... Given that your work was indeed of higher quality than the rest, why wasn't it published? Clearly, your work wasn't as high a quality as you thought. Or it just didn't fit the theme.

At least with the latter, you can have confidence that your work wasn't shit.

>>8279074
That's the thing.
A collection of short stories by several people is a much more viable goal than a decent length VN with all the necessary assets.

Everyone is their own boss here and if one person doesn't step up or disappears it's no big loss.

While with a VN you'll always have that one prick who wants to be the "leader" or the "manager" and does fuck all.
And if your artist vanishes or something you're out of luck.
Assuming you can even get an artist.
Not to mention people will likely bicker over the story and what not.

>>8279169
The last time I checked there were huge chunks of the SICP VN written already.

>>8279077
I've been asking for a while now. Editor, just what kind of stories do you want? You clearly state what you don't want, but I still don't know what you DO want.

>>8279169
Uh, yeah, no. Much more than any other project I've seen on /jp/, this one has a clear leader, the editor. Unlike VN projects where people decide on things together, here the editor is the sole person deciding what gets in the magazine and what doesn't. I'm not saying it's a bad thing (in fact it'll probably work a lot better than our other projects), but it's pretty clear this project is over once he loses interest.

I am still confused over the themes wanted for this. I'm afraid that my piece might be deemed too fantastic and lighthearted

Me again. Sorry I haven't been around as much as I could be, I actually had to do a lot of editing for someone else this week. Nothing to do over the Christmas weekend so I'll be here.

I meant for the prerequisites to be pretty broad. By "gritty" I meant stories that are a little more serious or even have a dark twist. They don't have to be grimdark. One story I was looking at was a somewhat funny story which takes place at a funeral, which is a good example of what I'm looking for. But it doesn't necessarily have to be that.

Basically if romance isn't the focus of the story, it doesn't take place in a magical kingdom or the 28th century you're probably fine. Those are the ones I get a lot of submissions from other times and when it's amateurs writing they're usually pretty awful. I'd love to get some short mysteries, a few scary stories and maybe some down-to-earth pieces, but I don't know who writes what.

I'm giving everyone who submits a full draft feedback and advice, so I hope you guys don't get discouraged.

If you have any more questions feel free to email me or post here. I respond much quicker to emails.

>>8280908
>Basically if romance isn't the focus of the story, it doesn't take place in a magical kingdom or the 28th century you're probably fine.
What about works that focus on more dark romance (such as Saya no Uta), are clearly fantasy while still very serious (such as Puella Magi Madoka Magica) or clearly take place in the future while not light-hearted or cheerful (1984 and lots and lots of post-apocalyptic science fiction)?

If you just want the stories to be serious, that's no reason to exclude entire genres. With enough creativity, any genre can become serious or even dark. Hell, even comedy, the genre that's all about lightheartedness and fun, has a dark variant (black comedy).

>>8281751

If you think it'll be a good story and relevant, submit it. The worst that can happen is you get some useful feedback and "It's not a good fit for this issue."

Also, new thread:

>>8281950