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8200555 No.8200555 [Reply] [Original]

Learner-fag here.

Just finished this shit.

Why the fuck is it so shitty compared to Hiragana
Most of the symbols are the same fucking thing with little dingdongs added

>> No.8200563

Get out.

>> No.8200561

Wait till you work on the kanji

>> No.8200566

>>8200561
Kanji isn't even that bad because it's understandable that things would look similar.

However, for a simplified alphabet-like writing system, this is fucking garbage

>> No.8200567

I think the most difficult aspect of katakana was how little of them I saw compared with hiragana while I was learning them. But don't worry, keep practicing and you'll get them down. It just takes a little time and patience.

>> No.8200565

Why the fuck is kanji so shitty
All of the symbols are just the other symbols with some parts swapped in or out

>> No.8200573

>doing katakana
>complaining already
You're fucked. Just give up.

>> No.8200578

i l j t

ITS ALL THE SAME BUT WITH DINGDONGS ADDED

>> No.8200583
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8200583

>>8200573
Sorry, but quitting isn't an option

>> No.8200593

>>8200578
>>8200578
Sorry, but anyone who speaks any other language that isn't swinerunes knows that criticizing the latin alphabet is useless - it was created by mongrels.

>> No.8200594

>>8200583
Then just deal with it. You can't change it with complaints.

>> No.8200591

You are hopeless. Sounds like you are just another faggot from /a/ who has no patience and is just rushing shit.

Get out.

>> No.8200597

>>8200594
FYI I was asking a question with my thread

>> No.8200602

>he can't tell the difference between シ and ツ

laughinggirls.jpg

>> No.8200604

>>8200578
d b p q
Oh god what.

>> No.8200605

>>8200597

fyi I fukd ur mom

>> No.8200610

OP you kind of fucked yourself on this thread. Better hit Warosu and search around for previous threads.

Oh, and delete this thread as well.

>> No.8200614

Why the fuck are Latin characters so shitty
Most of the letters are the same fucking think with little dingdongs added

>> No.8200612

>>8200597
That's funny, I didn't see a question mark.

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>> No.8200617

>>8200597
Good for you, doesn't change a thing.

>> No.8200624

ITT: everybody gets mad because OP pointed out the shittyness of your non-slavic writing system.

проблема?

>> No.8200619

>that feel when girls poop out they're butts
>ISHYGDDT
>who are you quoting D:<
>okay.jpg
>try to walk the dinosaur
>spaghetti falls out of my pockets
>mfw when i have no pokerface.png
>dinosaur turns into a dragon and starts flying
>holy shit i'm flying to O__O
>spaghetti still not done falling out of pockets
>flying spaghetti monster.exe
>mfw

>> No.8200635

>>8200567
Pretty much this. Not to mention that forming english words in katakana that you haven't seen before can be quite a pain.

Really though, katakana is nothing compared to Kanji, although similarities in kanji can actually be helpful (radicals etc)

>> No.8200636
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8200636

Stop letting yourself get trolled, /jp/

>> No.8200670

>>8200624
רוסית עדיין די דפוקה יחסית לשפות שמיות.

>> No.8200693

thisthreadは可愛くないだ。

>> No.8202294

>2011
>not starting to learn kanji at the beginning
>how fucking hard are kanji like 一二三口十田日丁

>> No.8202301

WHY THE FUCK IS LOWER CASE SO SHITTY COMPARED TO UPPER CASE, MOST OF THE SYMBOLS ARE THE SAME FUCKING THING JUST ROUNDED AND SMALL AND HARD TO READ

>> No.8202335

Katakana with its ツシ ソン is an easy level.
孑子 - now that's we are talking hardcore.

>> No.8202350

>>8202335
You'll never actually have to make a distinction between those two though.

>> No.8202352

>>8202335
Mosquito wriggler! I love finding non-Heisig kanji I didn't know existed.

>> No.8202357

>>8200693

>Implying this thread isn't the most kawaii thing ever

OP is adorable

>> No.8202456

Katakana is indeed fucking shit.

>> No.8202478

>implying japan doesn't need to adopt roman script like the rest of the civilized world
>no eastern europe isn't civilized

>> No.8202517

Where did you get your learning material?

>> No.8202539

I know a lot of kanji and read a lot but I never bothered to really learn katakana. Hate that shit. I can't remember like 70% of them and I just keep guessing and trying to write the word until I get it right.

>> No.8202544

シツソン are easy most of time for me.
Though I sometimes confuse サセ, because of hiragana せ, and シュ、ショ、シェ.
Also, rarely, ナノ, チモ and オネホ.

>> No.8202557

>>8202544
more like オナホ amirite?

>> No.8202571

>>8200619
You forgot your name check em ^_^

>> No.8202572

>>8202557
Damn it, you're buying me a new bottle of tea.

>> No.8202578

>>8202301
>>8200614
>>8200604
>>8200578
ITT: retards who deflect the criticism of their moon runes to another language as if it justifies your shit

Still learning useless languages, JP?
Why don't you learn the language of our new chinese overlords instead?

>> No.8202581

>>8202578
i like japanese more

>> No.8202586

>>8202578
What would I do with Chinese? Watch Chinese news?

>> No.8202606

>>8202586
You'd be able to communicate with a few billion more people, that's for sure.

And FYI, just because the Latin alphabet sucks dick, doesn't mean it justifies Japanese sucking. That's like saying "I don't have to do any better than people with down syndrome, since they exist and we're all equal XD XD"

>> No.8202615

>>8202606
Check this, OP:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sour%20Grapes

>> No.8202613

>>8202606
Ni hao ma, wo ai ni, xie xie.

Am I doing it right?

>> No.8202618

>>8202606
I'd be happy to be able to communicate with people other than my parents but they don't need to be Chinese.

And spoken Japanese is so easy, I don't even want to think of the tonal Chinese

>> No.8202625

>>8202539
Same. Can read almost anything but still have problems writing Katakana by hand. Think it's because they mess with the Kanji radicals. I associate ネイホ with 示人木. So when I try to remember the Katakana for NE, I or HO(for example) the kanji or the Hiragana blocks the association with Katakana off. In other cases they are just so fucking arbitrary when compared to the other two systems.

>> No.8202636

>>8202615
I'm not OP.

きさまはせいはくです
I know the language.
That doesn't excuse how fucking bad it is.
Just like the concept of having no spaces between words; whoever thought you would be easily able to differentiate words based on the particles between them was fucking stupid

>> No.8202643

http://www.donmouth.co.uk/web_design/javascript/kana_test_002.html
http://www.easyjapanese.org/kataquiz.html
http://www.realkana.com/

I used these to help remember katakana, you could easily just use an SRS like Anki alongside, or put the katakana in your kanji deck or something to help, I don't know.
Fuck you find your own ways to learn the language you bitch.
namasensei.jpg

>> No.8202652

>>8202636
Had you written 精薄 using Kanji I wouldn't have had to look it up.

>> No.8202654

>>8202643
>namasensei.jpg

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But seriously, I watched some of his videos after I had a basic grasp of grammar and started learning Kanji.
He's fucking garbage
Half the shit he teaches you is wrong
He blatantly forgets rules but brings them up later, etc.

He's good for learning moonrunes, that's it. Learning grammar from him would probably get you killed if you tried to pull shit on japanese people.

The one that kills me most is when he writes the particle "wa" as わ, which is such a fucking rookie mistake that I feel like slapping his narcissistic drunk ass.

>> No.8202676

>>8202654
>"wa" as わ, which is such a fucking rookie mistake
Whats wrong with that? I just learned my kana yesterday, so haven't picked up any grammar rules yet.

>> No.8202687

>>8202676
The particle は is always pronounced WA but written with the Hiragana for HA.
Same with the particle を pronounced O and with the particle へ pronounced E.

>> No.8202692

>>8202654
Just like anything you should at least cross check with other sources to make sure the information is 100% correct.
It was just at least a little humorous with his drunk state to begin with although got quite annoying when wanting a fluent 'lesson'.
Branched off after 100 nouns and started learning on my own etc.

>> No.8202708

>>8202676
First, may as well stop using Namasensei if you are

Second, you use わ in words and は as the stand-alone particle.
Good example to use is "Watashi wa shindoi desu" (I am tired)

わたしはしんどいです is written properly.
わたしわしんどいです is not.

は is the "wa" particle. Normally you'd pronounce it "ha" but as a particle it is "wa"

わ is a letter noise. You do pronounce it "wa" but you only use it in words (like Watashi). This is kind of similar to how you often get SU at the end of a word but you just say the S, like Desu (you can say the U if you're a retard)

>> No.8202710

>>8202687
Thanks anon.

>> No.8202735

>>8202708
>わ is a letter noise. You do pronounce it "wa" but you only use it in words (like Watashi)

わ is a sentence-final emotive particle for women that stands on its own. You find it on its own all over the place.

Also, as Japanese doesn't use an alphabet, there aren't any letters in Japanese.

>> No.8204354

wo is pronounced wo but sounds like halfway between o and wo most o the time. In songs you sometimes hear them say wo. The u at the end of desu is whispered but it's there. Romaji is used in Japanese which counts as letters and somebody here doesn't like namasensei's lessons but probably learned the word shindoi from his 100 adjectives.

>> No.8204360

>>8204354
was this shitty post really worth bumping this thread

>> No.8204369

>>8204360
suck my cock dude

>> No.8204411

>>8202606
>You'd be able to communicate with a few billion more people, that's for sure.
Too bad that they produce even less pop culture than Slovenia.

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>>8204369

>> No.8204429

>>8202654
That kimochi when you learned better Japanese from Hokuto no Ken than from professional instructors.

>> No.8204435

After two years of studying Jap I've forgotten the struggles I had learning katakana during the start. Now that shit seems so easy..

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