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Are you scared of dying, /jp/?

>> No.8160422

No. I wish someone would sneak up and kill me, because I'm scared of killing myself.

>> No.8160420

>>8160411

Yes, and what are you going to do to help or discuss?

>> No.8160434

No, because i know i'll go to Gensokyo, or Sovengard, who knows.

>> No.8160427

>>8160422
Don't worry Anonymous. I'll probably snap and kill random people sooner or later. Maybe one of them will be you? :3

>> No.8160444

Why would I be?

>> No.8160473

Actually, yes. The idea that I'll someday simply cease to exist is extremely frightening. I kinda envy warriors of ancient times who were brainwashed to believe that an honorable death is eternally rewarded.

>> No.8160479

>>8160473
Religious people still think like that somewhat.

>> No.8160491

Is Youmu a human or what

>> No.8160494

>>8160491
She has a condition.
Qweef cloud follows her around.

>> No.8160506

>>8160479
There's a difference between thinking like that and truly embracing the idea. I doubt most modern religious people would be willing to die for their beliefs.

Other than warriors having conditioned themselves better, I think the main difference is that normal religious people tell themselves that the right kind of death is nothing to fear, while warriors tell themselves that the right kind of death is something to desire. They don't see going to the battlefield as risking their life, they see it as an opportunity to die the greatest kind of death.

>> No.8160516

>>8160506
Not most warriors.

The Romans were shocked to see the Gauls act that way actually. Fighting with no regard to their life, and acting like wildmen.

>> No.8160518

You know how people are portrayed on their deathbeds in films? Like, they're all satisfied and calm, merely greeting their coming demise with an "Oh well, I suppose it's time."?

I'd like to think I'll do the same, but in reality I think you're flooded with a wave of anguish and millions of different feelings that you've never felt before, saturating your mind with fear. It's probable a horrible feeling, completely alien and indescribable to us far away from death.

>> No.8160534

>>8160518
Research shows you get more positive as you approach death. Researchers interviewed people on their death beds and their children. The study found that the dying people would tell more positive false versions of old memories. They weren't intentionally lying, their minds just changed as the end drew nearer.

>> No.8160541

I used to have a casual approach "hopefully there is something after our death, and if there isn't I wouldn't be able to realize it, so there is no need to worry" before.
But then I researched a bit about how our brain works, what it is exactly and how neural network work.
We're nothing more than biomachines with good learning and processing capabilities.
It's horrible in a way, and already really good documented, how our psyche works, how our memory works, everything that is you and all about your mind completely biological, leaving no place for a "soul" or afterlife to be. It doesn't even matter if there is a supreme being "creator" of some sort. When neurons die it's over.

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>>8160534
>Research
Nobody does that anymore

>> No.8160538

>>8160516
Huh, I thought the Romans were known for their willingness to die fighting instead of retreating, even when it was obvious they were losing. Didn't Hannibal exploit that all the time, basing his tactics on the knowledge that Roman troops wouldn't retreat even if they fell completely into his trap?

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8160547

It's all so much simpler once you cross the Border of Life, why would anyone be scared?

>> No.8160557

Not really, in fact, I want to die more than anything in this world. When I tried to kill myself a few months ago, I didn't hesitate one second, I knew what I was doing, and I didn't want anything else that being nothing.

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8160568

Is this any kind of offer?

>> No.8160574

>>8160557
sure

>> No.8160897

I think OP was going to post how to open portal but then he forgot what was he going to write.

>> No.8160927

Yes, but I just drown it out with countless hours of playing video games and major sleep deprivation. As soon as I stop playing a game, the feeling of being afraid comes back, and I instantly feel like shit. But at least sleep deprivation can make me feel much better, as I'm not thinking nearly enough when I haven't gotten sleep in two days.

>> No.8160931

I'm more afraid of having to actually live my life out.

>> No.8160955 [DELETED] 

>>8160541
Link to these documentaries?

>> No.8160999

I wouldn't be in the military if I was

>> No.8161000

>>8160538
Only because of the incredibly humane concept of "decimation". Silly romans..

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>>8161000

>> No.8161048

>>8160473
>>8160541

This.

I'm lucky that my father is 85 and his health is great, talkative, active and all, if I can be like that when I get to his age I still have some good 60 years ahead of me, but fuck I still get chills from time to time thinking of the moment I'll pass away,

The things I would do to be immortal..

>> No.8161053

>>8160547
The problem is the pain. It looks very much painful.

>>8160931
This as well.

>> No.8161052
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8161052

It scares me half to death.

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8161056

You would think with the scale of the universe and what is assumed to be an infinite amount of time, whatever caused the phenomenon of one's self and consciousness would occur again at some point in time, in some place in the universe, regardless of anything supernatural.

Quadrillions of years could pass without your existence, and when it finally comes to pass again, that time would seem to be less than an instant.
You would be completely unaware if you had lived lives before that, as you likely had countless times in the past, and shall onto infinity.

So to answer the original question; no.

>> No.8161061

>>8161052
LOL I GET IT

>> No.8161066

>>8161053
That depends entirely on how you die. There's a number of ways which are more or less painless.

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>>8161056
But will I be able to play Touhou again?

>> No.8161090

Dying scares me when I consider the feelings of the people I'll leave behind. I'm not afraid for myself.

>> No.8161102

>>8161090
If you're dead, you won't care about their tears. That's great, isn't it?

>> No.8161107

>>8161056
>You would think with the scale of the universe and what is assumed to be an infinite amount of time...
It's true that the universe is pretty big, but our current understanding is that it will eventually wind down and peter out. You, and the phenomena which brought you into being, are so complex that the probability that you'll be "reincarnated" is almost zero.

>> No.8161111

>>8161067
You'll probably be a normal with a six-figure job, loving wife, and kids in the next life. Won't even care about touhou or video games in general.

>> No.8161114

>>8161102
I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a comfort. I'm alive now though, and right now I care.

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>>8161111
NOOOO!

>> No.8161120

I want to become god ;__;
I've already thought everything out.

>> No.8161125

>>8161111
>a normal with a six-figure job

I don't think that's normal.

>> No.8161130

>>8161125
He never said it is. He just said Anonymous would be _a_ normal.

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>>8161056
>Quadrillions of years could pass
Well, fusion is estimated to end after 100 trillion years, and after that work will be possible for the next 10^100 years, but merely through decaying stray heat. When the last matter evaporates, it's unlikely anything will ever happen again, ever, because the universe will merely be an infinitely thin mist of elementary particles. Maybe it'll reform through some statistical probability, but then we're approaching ``ABSTRACT BULLSHITE'' that you will never comprehend.

The cosmos has a time limit, and it's calmly ticking along, so I have doubts about your consciousness reforming because if it were possible, there isn't enough time, even on the long (But finite) timescales we have ahead.

>> No.8161168

>>8161132
yukari will warp us to another universe

>> No.8161185

>>8161168
As much I'd loved to be carried in the old's hags slender soft arms, curled up with my face in her bosom and her carrying me off into one of her gaps like I'm a princess being rescued by her frilly knight, it's not going to happen.

;_;

>> No.8161214

I'm not fearful of death but that doesn't mean I can easily circumvent self preservation. I think of someone gave me the choice to live or die I'd choose to live, but if they didn't give me a choice I could calmly accept my fate.

However I really want to die alone, I think it's an important moment I want to savor. I lived alone for all this time so I think it's an acceptable request.

No funerals and just sprinkle my ashes in the ocean or something.

>> No.8161452

>>8160541
Actually, there are some studies as to how the electrical field of the brain lingers on somehow in one form or another after death, for a while at least. The researchers involved, among their research, did actually leave a claim that if this data connected to something, or if something captured it, then that could possibly be a hint to an afterlife.

All that aside though, quantum mechanics, is what is really interesting when discussing death.
We used to think that we understood most things of how the world works, that we had the laws etc worked out, and then we managed to find some proof to quantum theory, theory that is branded as impossible following classical physics.

With quantum theory we have found some pretty interesting stuff though, where it is possible for things to be in all possible states at all times, yet perceived differently depending on how it is observed. Or invisible links between pairs deep inside the fabrics of our very atoms. Where one part of the pair is always identical to other, despite of location or proximity to eachother. Where they can be lightyears away from eachers, yet change instantly if their other part is touched.

With how very little we even know of quantum mechanics, or how our world really works in general, I think it its fair to assume that there is far more we don't know about death, than what we think we do.

>> No.8161475

>>8160422
This. I'm scared of pain, not death.

>> No.8161483

>>8160427
Killing random people? Don't be stupid, you'll only get caught up and raped in jail for nothing.
If you wish to start some good stuff, plan on bombing several people away at once. Multiple times.
Get your shit done right, damn. I'd help you.

>> No.8161490

I have to visit my dying grandmother in hospital soon. I do care about her and I want to see her, but I have to go with my mum and cousin, neither of which I have seen in a while. Anxious as fuck.

>> No.8161503

>>8161452
Pretty much this. We have barely even thought of scratching the surface when it comes to understanding. There is simply so. Much. Shit. That would take a very -very- long time to understand and discover at our current pace.

If a scholar or some astrophysicist claim they say they got it all figured out then they are more than likely wrong.

>> No.8161526

>>8161132
But time is infinite and when the universe is no more, another universe can form, just like this one was formed.

And given the infinity of time, this will happen not once, or twice, but forever. And the earth will forever be recreated.

Well, that is if you want to believe this stuff.

>> No.8161531

Nope, I'll be kicking it back with my waifu when i die.

>> No.8164217

>>8161120
I understand your feelings man. Maybe we should rule together?

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