/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Lossless albums:
Ar tonelico Music Collection Torrent: http://www.bakabt.com/153236-ar-tonelico-music-collection.html
All tracks are encoded in FLAC format and include scans of covers and booklets. Torrent does not include AT3's Drama and Hymmnos Musical discs.

Alternative set of torrents:
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

CADENA ~Atelier Series Jazz Arrange Album Featuring Mami Horie Vol.1~
http://www.sonixgvn.net/2011/06/cadena-atelier-series-jazz-arrange.html

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Mediafire Folder of Ar tonelico goodies:
http://www.mediafire.com/?rddbnsio6dayi

Contents:
- AT1-3 OST, Hymmnos Concerts
- AT1-2 Drama CDs, Hymmnos Musicals
- Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ (Album)
- AT3 Artbook
- Offline AT2 Flash Cosmospheres
- AT3 Yokkora fan disc

* Original /jp/ content:
-- originspuke.jpg
-- Vectors of Install Points (.png and .svg)
-- Misc. Ar tonelico Vectors
-- No-fun-allowed Raki

>"Waiting for Meruru~n" Edition
Yes fucks yes

Much sooner than I thought, maybe Totori~n has been doing well despite all the huge games that have been released this fall

From the last thread:

Atelier Meruru announced for Spring 2012 release

http://www.nisamerica.com/index.php?nav=n&article=pbomb/PrinnyBomb_Vol179.html

>>8115104
>"Waiting for Meruru~n"
This is kinda awkward to say, even for me.

Still haven't opened Totori though. Maybe by Spring I'll get tired of Dark Souls.

Hopefully the special edition comes with that 9k¥ keyboard. One can dream.

>>8115172
Play it soon so you can buy her figure, ponpo!

Just built my new PC, paid for quite a lot of games recently (Dark Souls etc.) and the Steam Christmas sales are around the corner... and now NISA are kicking me while I'm down announcing Meruru. Being a NEET is suffering.

>>8115717
Stop sleeping, seriously. I have lost weight just because of Dark Souls, Totori, and Skyrim.

I was ready to wait until September for Meruru but a Spring release is most excellent news. Hopefully they'll also do something about that thing where you wait an extra week if you order from the NISA store.

I was so surprised to see NISA announce Meruru so quickly. I may have to set at least $60 aside somewhere so that when it does come out I'd already have the money to pre-order it.

>>8117323
We all were, truth be told. And I, as well, am setting money aside for it. Hope the pre-order is up ASAP.

>>8118587
I hope Anon will announce when the preorders will go up again.

/jp/ was preordering Totori like literally 5 minutes after the preorder page went up.

We meet again

>>8118716
Well met!

I sure hope NISA packs something extra nice in the LE for Meruru this time around. I'd love a nice goodie to round out the collection of LE's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd-t8nJot2I

Average /jp/ poster.

>>8119208
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvODyRTE044

>>8119208
>>8119223

We really need a Totori puke.jpg.

Downloading the lazy pack.
Seems a bit weird to me that the undub is larger than the actual game; is it a whole prepatched version or do I still need both of them?

>>8118871
It'd be nice if it's a calendar, I've been using the one that came with AT3 for this year.

>>8120333

Well fuck, just realised that one's the sequel and they're two different games.

I guess that's how lazy I am.

>>8119551
Nothing wrong with the black guy.
Fuck off.

So, I finished the Ar Tonelico series awhile back and I quite loved it.

But now I want to find a good place to jump into the Atelier series. I have the Iris games, but I hear the PS3 Ateliers diverge from the Iris series and are better in some way from the Iris games.

So, should I just skip Iris and go on to the PS3 Ateliers?

>>8119208
This guy is retardedly awesome.

>>8119208
It's funny because Arc is black.

>>8120390

The Iris trilogy is a sort of cross between a "standard" Atelier game (such as the PS3 ones) and a more traditional RPG, so it's arguably a good place to start.

>>8120783
everything else, I meant.

>>8120390
AI1 is the best, I really enjoyed AI3 for its battle system, but everything about it is trash. If you're going to play the MKs (and you should), it's completely skippable since they're the direct descendants from that engine.

How is Mana Khemia 2 compared to 1? I thought the first was one of the worst games I've ever played so I never finished and just jewtubed the endings. I didn't really mind AI3.

>>8120838
You are a horrible person.

Started Atelier Totori today and I was surprised with Pamela in her humans form! Did I miss something in Rorona or will it be explained in Totori?

>>8121906
Rorona just made her a body, she's still a ghost

>>8120838
I normally respect the opinions of others. But in this case I dislike you immensely

>>8121989
Wasn't it Astrid who did?

>>8121906
It's explained much much later.
Astrid made Pamela a body/doll to inhabit so that she has a 'physical' body in the world, rather than being a ghost all the time.

For now, appreciate the fact that you know that she's a ghost, but everyone else in Totori's village doesn't.

>>8120390
Gust uses the various sub-series as a way to explore and experiment with various ideas and features as well as focus on the games. That lets them actually experiment and at the same time be unrestricted by having to implement or incorporate previous designs that can add up a lot of baggage.

In any case, The Atelier Iris and subsequently Mana Khemia series are adventure and combat focused. The Iris were an attempt to be more of a traditional RPG rather than being a strictly Item Synthesis RPG. Iris and Mana Khemia are great games to settle into the notion that item synthesis and use are very important, but be able to have something else to work on. Rorona is a hardcore step back into the management and schedule heavy pressure of the earlier series and has an extremely simplistic but functional combat system. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but for those who really like the idea of trying to tweak item synthesis to get specific results, it's good. Totori is more adventure oriented, but the combat system is still a work in progress and there is a risk of being overwhelmed as you have no hand holding on what you should focus on.

Dat figure. My poor wallet..

I know it was posted in the fig general but I thought it should be posted here too.

>>8122505
While that is true, the alchemy system actually seems more worth experimenting with in Mana Khemia and Ar Tonelico 1-2. Why? because most of the effects don't matter in Rorona/Totori due to the simple combat and weapon system. In Totori you hardly ever have to get a specific trait.

I actually liked the micro management in Rorona, they just could've made the combat a bit less mind numbing.

>>8123414
I don't say this often, but I am jealous.

>>8123414
Preordered. Should go out just in time for the end of tax season.

>>8125388
Buying figs with tax refund money is the greatest feeling known to /jp/.

>>8123414
I dunno if i buy this or Rune Factory + Agarest.
I don't like pirating console games for some reason.

>>8125531
If you mean Rune Factory Oceans, it's dub only so you may as well download and emulate the undub.

>>8125524
No doubt some of my refund will go towards it.
But I also work in a tax office during the season, and the end of the season brings in all the lazy fucks who couldn't come in the previous three months.
Which means a big paycheck.

Finally got to start Atelier Rorona a yesterday. It's really fun and addicting. One thing I don't understand is that bar on the lower left during battles though. What does it do?

>>8125537
Oh, thanks for the warning.
If i choose it, i'll pick the japanese version then.

>>8125617
Elements active. Raising it to higher levels allows you to use stronger elemental skills of those colors, and raises element type damage.

I was browsing around gamers and discovered ar tonelico has a light novel series. I wasnt aware of this... so I bought it.

I hope it doesnt suck

>>8125643
Ah, I see. Thank you, that was very informative.

Just started playing this kind of stuff yesterday.
Ar Tonelico may be the best RPG I touched since 2003.
I actually don't have that much time for video games, but I guess it can't hurt.

Thanks /jp/

>>8125711
I found AT2 to be much more enjoyable than the first

>>8125716
AT2 as a whole is my personal favourite.

For me, the only weaknesses were NO JUMPING and THOSE SOULLESS SPRITE EYES.

>>8125725
Its hard to top misha, but mir and cocona do it for me. Also, cloche's hymns and replekia

The music fit the atmosphere better too, I think

are the AT ps3 games worth buying a ps3?

>>8125788
It depends how much you life the series and how much you can give yourself to pay for the games. That isn't a exact thing, really.

>>8125788
There's only one AT game for the PS3 though.

>>8125788
There's a ton of great /jp/-approved games out on the PS3 so I would recommend it.

>>8125788
Maybe /jp/ doesn't like this, but I personally think one should buy the PS3 for, amongst other purposes, Dark Souls. It is downright fantastic and completely worth it, though not everyone's cup of tea since it is fashions a very hard gameplay.

>>8125809

not hard so much as unforgiving.

>>8125788

AT3 by itself? Probably not. But there are a number of other games (/jp/-approvied and otherwise) for the system that make it worth getting.

>>8125841
It isn't really unforgiving after you beat the Taurus Demon, he is the only trial you have to really face in there.

>>8125809
>Maybe /jp/ doesn't like this, but I personally think one should buy the PS3 for, amongst other purposes, Dark Souls.

You should've been here for the all the threads we had. Great times. Also, JRPG so /jp/ related.

>>8125716
AT2 took every system that AT1 had and made them unbearably awkward.

>>8125716
While AT1 is far too easy and AT2 has really improved its battle system, AT2 is just so much less enjoyable for me. It may be because of the characters, or the story, or even the BGM. Anyway I liked AT1 as a whole a lot better.

Oh yeah, I fucking hate Lucka maybe that's why.

>>8127162
>lucka
>k

Lemme guess, she's too human for you, just like nearly everyone else who complains about her

>>8127162
>>8127530

Oh boy, prime opportunity for that copypasta right now.

>>8127536
Why? Nobody called her a slut yet.

I mean ... fuck.

I actually don't she is one, AT2 somehow managed to make me like all the girls

>>8127530

Lemme guess, you have NTR fetish, just like nearly everyone else who likes or defend her.

>>8128065
I may have a major NTR fetish but even i wont sink low enough to actually like Luca.

>>8128065

There's also the "girl pretends to fall in love with guy then winds up falling in love with him for real" fetish to consider.

>>8128105
Replace guy with cock, add another guy and you have NTR.

>>8128065

I don't have an NTR fetish and I like her. She's not my favorite, mind you, but I like her.

>>8128065
Not even that guy, but Luca = NTR?

What. What NTR.

GUST generals sure have dropped in quality lately, may as well go talk about these things on gamefaqs or some shit

>>8127530
Most people are too wound up in the mindset that "Oh my god she had a troubled childhood life and eventually wound up hurting herself and eventually having an emotional breakdown as a result" = FUCKING SHIT WHORE CHARACTER

Never change, majority of /jp/

>>8128194
Nah, it's her forcing herself on you just to stab you in the back. Then she regrets it and that's supposed to make it better or show that she's DEEP.
Slut? Maybe. Bitch? Definitely.

>>8128207
Huh, how is being more humanlike DEEP? If anything it's just more... human. She used him, but she wasn't entirely lying about liking him, she was just so bent on finding her sister after everything that happened; having her mother treat her like that for so long no doubt helped that mentality.


Also what the fuck, my captcha has a picture of what looks like "(ﾟ ヘﾟ)"

>>8120390 here.

>>8122505
>>8120783
>>8120754
>>8123431
Thank you for your input. No one said anything remotely close about skipping Iris. So, I'll go ahead and finish those up as I wait for Meruru and funds to pick up the PS3 games.

>>8128706
Ah, I almost forgot but I assume the answer is yes or at least a relative yes knowing GUST; Are the Iris and the PS3 Ateliers connected in some way or form (cameos and such) or even a direct squeal to events of Iris?

>>8125788

AT3, Atelier Rorona/Totori/Meruru, Valkyria Chronicles, Demon/Dark Souls, Ico/SotC/The Last Guardian, Tales of Xillia/Graces, Neptunia 1+2, Disgaea 3+4.. the list goes on. There's also 'normal' games like God of War, Uncharted, MGS 1-4 etc. if those interest you. There's plenty of good/exclusive games available that make a PS3 a good purchase. Most games are region free too so you can import whatever you want which I know is useful for me since I order my games from the NISA store to the UK.

>>8128180

>What. What NTR.

Well, when a young woman charge 60$/hour for a massage, she isn't a physiotherapist.

Luka's "therapy with happy ending" is pretty expensive.

Now just thing a bit about it.

>>8128726
The sub-series are for all intents and purposes, totally separate from each other. The games within a sub-series are normally direct sequels/prequels but that isn't necessarily a rule in itself. I'm not certain if the three Iris games are connected in any way other than being similar gameplay focus.

The only things that are common are similar item synthesis (Supplements, Zettel etc...) some common enemies such as Punis and of course, Pamela and Hagel. Almost standard franchise commonality conventions really.

Totori does have DLC packs which let you change the battle/atelier BGMs to ones from the earlier Atelier games (Nefertiti, fuck yeah!) which can be great for the nostalgia trips and just enjoying the earlier musics.

>>8128726
>>8129324

So yeah, unless you consider stuff like Chocobos and items named Potion/Elixir in the FF games to be cameos, there aren't any from Iris in the Arland series.

>>8129018
She never did anything though, it's even said in the game. Pretty damn sure the game is canon.

Seriously guys, Luca having smaller tits than Cloche is a more solid argument

>>8129368
Just to clarify, by 'anything' I meant 'anything sexual'. Then again if you actually played the game, or looked at the script, you would know that already

>>8129375
Because /jp/ really needs evidence to start callling characters sluts, right?

You know, the more time I spend away from AT1, the more I like Shurelia.

Despite bits of rushed writing and probably my least favorite cosmosphere, it feels right to put her even with Jacqli. Maybe even > Jacqli. (that still puts her below Cloche and Finnel, though)

>Luca

Luca is not a slut.

She is, however, a whiny, petty, self-centered, manipulative little cunt. And to top it all off, she's a heroine who's never fun to watch sharing space with two other heroines who very much are.

>>8129578
So, despite having a poorer developed characterisation as a result of rushed writing and having the least favoured cosmosphere, you find a way to like her?

That, my dear sir, is curious and as curiosity has it, I would like to inquire some more as to your reasoning...

>>8129676

The most enjoyable skits out of the AT1 heroines.

The best character design in the franchise. Actually, I'd go so far as to say that when I think of a videogame character who's "pretty", Shurelia is probably the first that comes to mind.

She had inconsistencies, but I remember her more for the good than the bad.

>>8129578
I actually agree with this, oddly enough. I didn't much for Shurelia at all when I played the game, but in retrospect I view her as one of the better girls in the series. Maybe I've just involuntarily glossed over the shitty parts.

>>8129740

I started liking Shurelia pretty quickly after she joined and I started watching skits. When I finished AT1, my solid ranking was Shurelia > Aurica > Misha.

I just initially hesitated to put her on par with my other favorites in the franchise. (played AT1 last)

I've grown to like Aurica more, too. She's one of the few things about the game that didn't really seem to suffer from any sort of bad writing. If anything, she's a rare example of a depressed, withdrawn, self-loathing chick made me feel sympathy for her. Its obvious that she's where the writers were focusing.

Misha... not so much. I really wanted to like Misha, but the writing surrounding her was the worst that the game had to offer. There was no connection between her and Lyner, and her character just came out feeling weak all around in the end. So much for "second reyvateil is always best".

Objectively speaking, I think Aurica was the best in the series in terms of character development. You can really see the difference between the annoying wet blanket Aurica you first meet, to the funny, wacky Aurica she becomes by the end. If you listen closely, her battle dialogue changes progressively as the game goes on from a "I don't want to do this..." to "ALRIGHT LETS DO THIS!".

And then you have Tokousphere Aurica where she is all sorts of crazy, non-canon notwithstanding.

10/10 on the part of the writers, wish they had put as much effort into Misha's writing but hey, guess who's on the cover of the game?

>>8129767
Fucking Lyner, why you let Misha suffer. She doesn't want to sing it, so at least say something nice to her.

>>8130352

I never found Aurica annoying.

The writers pulled off the quiet, sad, and feminine thing really well.

>>8130371

Lyner really doesn't seem to give two shits about Misha, does he?

>never compliments Misha on her appearance like he does with both Aurica and Shurelia on several occasions; avoids the topic when prompted
>gladly throws her back into her cage
>constantly disregards her
>never really seems to enjoy her company

AT2 and AT3 handled a lot of things better than AT1 did. Interactions between the main character and his love interests was one of those things.

Especially AT3. Aoto played off of the girls really well. The hidden option in Finnel's ending was DAAAAWWWWW.

Wait, you can have Shurelia join your pary in AT1?
How the hell did I manage to miss that part?
I guess I should pay more attention when playing videogames.

>>8130427
How the hell can you miss that?

>>8130430
...pretty sure he just pretends that he actually played the games.

>>8130427

Continue the adventure at the end of Phase 2.

Move on to Phrase 3.

>>8130427

If you choose not to live happily ever after with Misha after you beat the final boss in phase 2, the game continues to phase 3 instead of ending.

>>8130441
>>8130449
Oh fuck, I had totally forgotten that there was a choice at that point.
I guess that's what I get for playing like 5 games at once and not paying attention whatsoever.

>>8130469

>not paying attention
>with RPGs

Why bother?

Just go play FPS or sports games or something that doesn't require reading.

Has anyone beat mir in chronicle key?
Couldnt figure out a way to beat her regen without a massive ass one shot spell. I used all the mana pots I had and blasted her for a shit ton, took her down to like 3%. Next turn, regen.

>>8129767
>but the writing surrounding her was the worst that the game had to offer. There was no connection between her and Lyner
When people here kept repeating how much of an idiot Lyner was, I had no idea what they were talking about until I started to play Misha's route. I mean, he was playing disinterested in the innuendo but he had decent plans and leadership qualities. Honestly, Misha's route makes everyone look horrible.

I maintain that there is a connection between Misha and Lyner, but it doesn't really develop, so much as become revealed. My personal gripe with her is that her cosmosphere resolves itself. With Aurica, Lyner becomes the cause of her inner conflict and he resolves it by personally reaching out to accept all parts of her. With Misha, Hama swoops in at the last moment.

That said, I think that Misha is still better written than anything I've seen out of AT2's phase 1-3 so far. At least romantically. AT1 has an air of coziness about it with all of the heroines. AT2's talk topics are too short, its heroines don't open up their Cosmospheres until you commit to them (and you only really get 4 short levels to see their surface issues), and its crafting topics are more about the RT's relations with other people. They barely talk to you when you take their route and then they get pulled out of your party for an entire phase, and when they finally come back they are raging lesbians. AT1 had dozens of subtle little touches that make you feel closer to your choice.

>>8130495
Try again with more mana pots? Alternatively youtube it.

>>8130512

wat

Lyner never seemed to care much for Misha, at least not up until the very last second where you choose her over Shurelia, at the very end. It was too late and too sudden. It never had a chance to go anywhere. And he downright treats her like shit throughout Act 3.

Croix at least seems like he enjoys the company of all of the girls.

I would kind of agree with AT1's and AT3's synthesis skits seeming a little more "personal", though. The shop keepers (awesome as Skycat and Cynthia were) cut in a lot.

I have no idea what you're talking about with any of the AT2 heroines being pushed aside, ever. Both Cloche and Luca remain relevant throughout, as does Jacqli once she joins up.

>comsospheres

AT2's cosmospheres were fucking intense later on, though. That's when they got good. I played AT2 first, and was disappointed that the others didn't reach the level of intensity.

For AT3's cosmospheres, Saki's kinda sucked, but Finnel's had its moments (and fuck yeah, Soma), and Tyria's was a nice little side story.

I really didn't like AT1's cosmospheres very much. The mind guardians here were the most memorable of the lot, but beyond that... they were just underwhelming.

>>8130495
>charge child of light to 12.5k
>1-shot mir

Alternatively, My Ryner alone can kill her with 6 attacks.Yes, that means he 2-shots each incarnation.

If your characters aren't stupidly overpowered by that point in the game, go to Spica and buy a few of her 50k valued gems. You should have more money than you know what to do with by that point if you haven't.

>>8130574
What the feck is up with those stats?!?!? Over 9000 (sorry, had to do it) attack, 6 attacks in a round with 100% extra f/i/l/w damage?!

>>8130574
>>8130610
Oh and 100% crit just in case there wasn't enough overkill

>>8130612
>He thinks that's enough overkill

>>8130540
I didn't say they were pushed out of the plot, but they were lacking romantic presence in that phase.

I'll take your word on AT2's cosmospheres getting better but I think I would still take AT1's design over AT2's secretive exclusiveness.

>Lyner never seemed to care much for Misha
I don't think that he was uncaring so much as ignorant and focused on duty and long term fairness. Since Misha is only my third or fourth favorite I'll refrain from arguing more out of my element. I will maintain that her route brings the worst out of everyone.

>>8130631
...
Screw it! Go ahead and bathe the world in fire and brimstone. You win in the sheer ludicrous firepower stakes. I was happy enough maxing out def and all the resistances so that I could not possibly die unless I got overzealous with spamming skills but you have decided to pack the power of the Ar tonelico in Lyner's hands, and what a mistake that is.

>>8130574
>>8130631
So... so sharp! ;_;
I wish I had a faster CPU.

>>8130658
I think you mean GPU. Visual enhancements such as Anti Aliasing and increasing the screen resolution is handled by your graphics card.

>>8130574
version 2,
Since with the suicide attack set up, the aerial cage isn't needed so I had two extra node spots to fill up. Sadly, attack power stops adding once you reach 9,999.
>>8130656
>I was happy enough maxing out def and all the resistances

With one grathnode, you can max out all the stats aside from hp, attack, defense, and agility. Sadly, once you get to phase 3, there are no enemies worth mentioning that even use elemental attacks.

Otherwise, my Radolf is the only char that can legitimately solo any boss monster. A few auto-regen crystals and two diamond defenses mean that his auto-regen out-heals Mir's damage. Hell, it can out heal 3 mir's attacking him. Seriously. He also has enough damage to barely out-do mir's auto healing...but the fight takes a while.

If you're still having trouble with mir,
another thing to do is to use the genuine IO's to have all your craftables to S-rank, and then make a few S-rank high end equipments, which can then be grathnoded into the overpowered S-rank grathnodes that you can only otherwise find from Spica.
Lastly, you can farm the relics from the random fights near the child of light, and then turn those into special grades.

At that point, there should be no way in fucking hell that you should ever have any trouble with anything.

>>8130697
>version 2

forgot to attach it

>>8130668
No, actually I mean CPU. The problem is that I can't run the emulator at full speed even with barebone graphics. My GPU is pretty decent (HD5670), I need a better CPU (Athlon 64 X2 5200+ @2.70GHz).

>>8129578

I started gradually disliking Shurelia more and more the moment she woke up in Phase 3. I guess I was just disappointed.

>>8130540

>Lyner never seemed to care much for Misha, at least not up until the very last second where you choose her over Shurelia, at the very end. It was too late and too sudden. It never had a chance to go anywhere. And he downright treats her like shit throughout Act 3.

I felt like the game punished and mocked me for choosing Misha's path. Phase 3 was like a big "F U" sign from the writers. I really don't understand what the hell was their intention.

>>8130886

They basically wrote themselves into a corner in that phase 3's plot is entirely dependent on Lyner asking Misha to do something that he wouldn't ask her to do if he really gave a shit about her, be it as a friend or a lover.

Though thinking about it they could easily have made it work by making it Misha's idea- ie "I don't want my freedom to be at the expense of someone else."

>>8130391
>Especially AT3. Aoto played off of the girls really well. The hidden option in Finnel's ending was DAAAAWWWWW.

Yeah, AT3 was the best in the MC-heroine relationship department. AT1's problem was that since you could max out all CSes and the choice of which girl you end up with is literally at the last minute they had their hands tied as to what they could do in those scenes, while AT2's problem was that Croix's relationships with the heroines (as well as Croix himself) becomes completely irrelevant to the main story after he gets them to the point where they stop hating each other.

I think if Lyner had openly assured her that it was only temporary to say goodbye or come up with Plan C then it would have come out better.

The whole Star Singer thing never looked well thought out to me. It would have been more logical from a engineering and a humanitarian perspective to produce multiple Star Singers at once and rotate them out.

>>8130941

It would even have been better if they made Lyner have a clear stance on this, if he flat-out said "I don't really care about her", or if he was established as being indifferent or an asshole. Instead, it was as if Lyner/the writers were just screwing with me, and having a blast, too. Things like Lyner expressing his eternal gratitude and complete devotion at the end of Phase 2, and the stuff written in the characters status screen only made it so much worse. I nearly ragequit at one point, even though I enjoyed the game.

>>8130856
person who posted ryner pics here,
I use an E8400 and a HD4850.

Screwing with the EE cycle rate and VU cycle stealing should make pcsx2 playable, even for you. (90% of the time, standard 60 fps and with minor audio fuck ups every now and again) with one of the latest 0.9.9 beta builds. Just keep the internal resolution at native.

>>8130952
As far as maxing out more than one girl, AT1 didn't bother me in that regard because the Cosmosphere marriage was symbolic. If the Talk Topic acquisition wasn't so squirrelly at times they could have tied it in with that, since you can only max one girl per playthrough.

Barring that, they either needed to bring in Shurelia's branch earlier or at the very least not have her intrude once you finally pick the other girl's ending.

Overall, I think that a harem end where you strongly and clearly favor one of the girls would have been the best there.

>bought Ar Tonelico Qoga dayone, finished
>3 weeks ago bought Neptunia, currently playing
>last week bought Atelier Rorona
>today bought Atelier Totori since the price lowered on amazon uk

feels good man, now i only need a couple of free months to finish them all.

Apologies if this has been asked before but is there any way to remove the lines that appear over cutscenes and character portraits?

>>8131023

Set internal resolution to native, iirc.

>>8131031
Aside from that.

>>8131038

That is the only way.
In addition to that, certain versions of pcsx2 will have lines over the character portraits regardless of the internal resolution.

>>8130886

You forget that Lyner is incredibly dense. It was a pretty bad move but considering the circumstances it could have gone a lot worse.

>>8130966

While that is the most logical I believe it's not possible due to the fact that the song must be maintained for a set number of hours at a time in order for the seal to keep its strength so by constantly switching out people the seal would slowly allow Mir to break out. There's also more technical stuff to keep in mind like each reyvateil having different levels of strength (depending on their age) which means the seal would fluctuate. There's also development costs to keep in mind.

>>8131007

And this is how backlogs begin.

>>8132002

It's been a while since I read up on that stuff, but aside from there being one Chronicle Key (the hymn crystal can only be installed in one RT at the same time), wasn't there also something about the star singer using the first Lune's D-Cellophan as some sort of requirement for the hymn?

Or was the Cellophan the hymn itself? Considering the whole "turning into a loli when the hymn is uninstalled" thing ...

>>8132002

Oh I don't believe he was dense (at least in this regard), he was just playing dumb most of the time, the way I saw it. I thought he didn't want to be bothered by all this relationship stuff and whatnot. The only moment where his true feelings/thoughts/character shone through was, if I remember correctly, in Misha's cosmosphere where he said something along the lines of "Sorry, but I won't be bound by anyone" (unless of course he really was completely dense and meant that strictly literally, and I read too much into it).

Which is why I was so confused by his few sudden outbursts of emotion and supposed 'care'. It's like the writing for this character was inconsistent.

Regarding Misha's situation, he also wasn't oblivious to that. There's a time in the game where you begin to realise that Misha will have to go back to that room and stay there forever, and yet no one ever says anything about it, not even Jack - until finally Lyner, of all people, tells her he's sorry that he can't help her escape that fate somehow.

>>8132388

The song itself is inserted into their D-Cellophane and only a descendant/clone of Lune would be able to sing Chronicle Key.

>>8132483

I think 'treating her like shit during phase 3' is mainly due to Lyner growing up and having more respect for Shurelia, which is completely understandable when you consider that she's an administrator and she was also very close with Lyner and his father when he was growing up. It was a shitty move to ask Misha to sing again but unfortunately that's her role as a Star Singer. Lyner could have certainly handled the situation a lot better but that's just him being dense.

As for the lack of emotion towards the girls you have to remember that the game never truly locked you into a girl and apart from which story route you take the game doesn't really know who you really like. You could max out all of the cosmosphere's so it's kind of hard for them to put emotion towards the girls. This is why AT2 has you locked into a reyvateil when you go past level 5 and the other two accept that. The last second decision in AT1 is a pretty dick move though, I have to admit, but it was the only way for the game to know who you actually chose.

>>8133015
>As for the lack of emotion towards the girls you have to remember that the game never truly locked you into a girl and apart from which story route you take the game doesn't really know who you really like. You could max out all of the cosmosphere's so it's kind of hard for them to put emotion towards the girls. This is why AT2 has you locked into a reyvateil when you go past level 5 and the other two accept that. The last second decision in AT1 is a pretty dick move though, I have to admit, but it was the only way for the game to know who you actually chose.

Yeah, pretty much. They were kind of forced into that by the fact that Shurelia joins the party so late, though, if she had joined at the start of phase 2 they could have had you lock someone in by phase 3.

AT3 had a slightly better solution to the "third girl joins 2/3 of the way through" dilemma by giving you the option to lock a girl in before Tyria even joins or friendzoning them until later. Though having some of the two-point scenes happen and then going Tyria or Cocona could be a little awkward.

Overall I don't think any of the games did as good a job as they could have integrating CS progress/girl choice with the main story. It wouldn't have been to hard to, for example, have certain bits of main story dialogue play out differently if you had seen certain CS scenes/talk topics, or if you had committed to a girl by that point in the story (such as the bonus scene in 3's phase 3 if you had 3-pointed a girl, which is basically the only example of this happening in the series outside of the endings.)

>>8133116
Wasn't there a storyline event where everyone is shocked over something that was already revealed in a character event, leading to some odd reactions?

>>8133116

>Overall I don't think any of the games did as good a job as they could have integrating CS progress/girl choice with the main story.

Obviously.

Unless you somehow magically guess exactly when you should clear a cosmosphere level, there's always going to be inconsistencies between what's going on inside the cosmosphere and what's going on outside.

1. Characters that the heroine hasn't met yet will show up inside her cosmosphere.

2. The protagonist will witness a revelation inside the cosmosphere, but when its brought up outside, he won't know anything.

3. The protagonist will learn something outside, but when he sees it inside the cosmosphere, he'll act as if he doesn't know.

4. Character changes that take place inside the cosmosphere are meaningless everywhere else.

5. Character changes that take place outside the comsosphere do not always reflect inside, especially if you've waited a long time to complete a level.

They're like two completely different universes that have no impact on one another, except for rare instances.

>>8135011
Which is the reason why AT2 at the very least had conditions on when talk matters will unlock and hence when a Cosmosphere scenario is allowed to be accessed.

Not only does that impose a 'level cap' for song magic for the sake of game play, it also synch locks the cosmosphere with the actual main storyline so that certain revelations and scenarios won't occur before they are meant to occur. There is one slight mess up from memory which was a minor spoiler with Cloche.

AT1 was a total mess because it didn't lock off access to the higher cosmosphere levels based off the story progression, which meant weird things such as you've mentioned, NPCs that haven't appeared yet and even Adult Misha before that major spoiler is released.

>>8135192
>There is one slight mess up from memory which was a minor spoiler with Cloche
She has few if you actgally do her cosmnosphere, espcially relatdto her 'mind guardian'.

>>8135192
AT2 has its fair share of those exact same problems. It doesn't have AS MANY, but the ones that are there are significantly worse. Two examples from recent memory:

If you finish stage 5 and choose to protect the heroine, you can then finish the final boss and then have the rest of the cosmosphere spoiled for you by the ending epilogue conversation. It's most apparent with Jakuri.

In addition, if you wait until the final ascent before doing much with Cloche, you'll be asking yourself "uhh...why are we having a friendly talk here when you are two floors above me trying to kill me, Infel?"

>>8135249

I guess the intention of the cosmosphere restrictions were to prevent the main story from being spoiled and the assumption would be that you'll be progressing with your 'chosen' reyvateil as quickly as possible. It'll be rather difficult to have multiple scenarios based on where in the actual story you were.

>>8132483
>Oh I don't believe he was dense (at least in this regard), he was just playing dumb most of the time, the way I saw it. I thought he didn't want to be bothered by all this relationship stuff and whatnot.

Reminds me of the theory I have about Infinite Stratos, that Ichika is pretending to be dense because he'd rather just be friends with all of the girls than fuck things up by trying to date one of them.

Hell, that might explain a lot of excessively dense harem protags.

>>8135837
Raze also pretend he don't know that Lily likes him.
Actually i believe no one in this world is dense. It just MC doesn't have any feeling toward the girls, even the girls want MC's cock. Sorry for off topic.

>ガストカレンダーの俺が描いたロロナさんは33歳です。

http://twitter.com/#!/mellco/status/137928378928988161

>>8135921

I'm throwing money at my monitor but it's not doing anything.

>>8130631
Lyner's face there is like
"I'm totally going to grope her and claim it was an accident".

>>8129018
She's not a slut, and there's no evidence she ever did anything like that. She's able to treat IPDs using therapy, so there's even more evidence she's not a slut and actually knows what she's doing.

>>8137276
She charges higher than a self admitted whore.

>>8137342
Doctors charge higher than self-admitted whores. Are they prostitutes as well?

>>8137371
Most doctors don't work in the same places whores do.

>>8137273

Is it even possible to avoid groping her? I think any person in that situation would slip in a quick squeeze of Shurelia's delicious buns.

From NISA's Twitter:
Neptunia Mk.II scheduled for Feb. 2012

Trailer: http://t.co/QGtwt6dg

>>8138666
It's going to be an expensive month with that and the Vita.

>>8138685
And a little while later, Meruru...
Thankfully, I'm not looking at a launch purchase of the Vita. I'll wait for the first hardware revision before jumping in on that. (then clean up the ensuring backlog...)

Neat. Finally able to pick up AT3's DLC on the cheap when I have time to play it again. Yay for Thanksgiving week sales.

Mana Khemia PSP also on sale. Is that worth a buy?

>>8138823
MK PSP from what I recall has longer load times, no new additions/features. It's probably better to grab/play the PS2 version unless you cannot do that.

ok, im kinda lost in totori. it feels like ive accomplished nothing but walking around wasting days. im now on year 2 2/15 with bronze level

>>8138842
Hmm... bronze. That means you've ranked up once, right?

You can still finish the game without a bad end from your position. As posted before in previous threads, Totori doesn't shove deadlines in your face at every step, but it can be brutal since you are tossed out into the world without an inkling on what you should be doing, so it's pretty much understanding how to rank up quickly and effectively.

The biggest tip I can give really is check the license details and aim to clear those objectives as efficiently as possible and do as many quests as possible. You should always aim to do the 10 requests per rank since those are miss-able. You will get a number of random points, mainly for defeating x number of y monster type, or just by adventuring by itself. Stack up quests, and clear those in one huge batch. I was planning circuits to clear a whole set of quests and sometimes ending up moving from Arland to Alanya/vice versa in the process.

>>8138823

Thanks for the heads up on the sales. Does anyone know of a decent EU site to purchase American PSN cards and get them emailed?

>>8138666

God damn it, this does not help my backlog at all. I'm actually looking forward to Neptunia 2 for some reason, despite the first game being mediocre.

>>8135921
is that some cougar Rorona?

want.

>>8138241
The most hilarious part of playing AT1 was when my sister (who watched me play it) predicted where Shurelia's install port would be several hours before that part.

>>8139106
She wants to have you insert your crystal into her port.

Hey guys, what do you people think of the artbooks? I have been looking at the Totori and Rorona one for a long time now and completely love it. Is there any other artbook or scanlated oficial work of the Atelier series than I should get?

>>8139128
There was this one Rorona+Totori+Meruru artbook that released a while ago, but so far no scans...

atelier totori is so much better than rorona. really loving this game.

If Rorona, Totori, and Meruru had install ports, what would they look like?

>>8139298
gems, to which to "upload" to them by smearing alchemic solutions over, the crystals then absorb them.

I've been watching Totori playthrough lately, the cuteness is overwhelming.

Kinda sad to see them cutting corners on animations, since the character models are so well done, but most of the time you only get portraits talking.

>>8138831
It's just that MK PSP is on sale for ~8 bucks, while MK2 is 30 on NISA's site. That's what made me wonder if I should get one over the other.

Damn NISA's sales, by the time the next round comes up I'll be dirt poor.

>>8140038
MK PSP is a really shitty port.

hey... i don't understand how to get the true end. I was following a very poorly written trophy guide that implied I only had to get the holding flags for each character. I can now see this is wrong.
I was wondering, do I have to complete every single route in order to get this ending? I mean, do I need to get mimi and totori to level 50, alchemist level to 50, 500,000 cole, and all other points in between? I was hoping for some conformation on this, I would hate to redo all that work for nothing.

>>8140236
yes, you need to trigger all the different endings in a single playthrough
here's a guide, read sections 3 and 4 for the endings
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/991771-atelier-totori-the-adventurer-of-arland/faqs/63157

>>8140038

You could just emulate MK and then throw some money at NISA elsewhere (Limited editions and such). The PSP port is pretty bad apparently and the original game is quite overpriced since it's old so you might as well just emulate it, assuming your PC isn't 10 years old.

Tilia is love.

Come on, /jp/, no love for Ar_ru?

>>8143043
I'd prefer to call her Arru.

Is there any Artonelico as flat as Arru? I think not, and it's awesome.

>>8143160
Ar_ru is the best flat chested Ar Tonelico

>>8143160
>>8143096
>>8142234
Why are AT/Gust threads filled with pedophiles? Also Finnel is the best heroine in the series.

>>8143096
She looks like a shita in that picture.

>>8143479
Pedophile? More like lolicon, and Ar_Ru is fucking old.

>>8143479
>implying i would ever do something lewd to Ar_Ru

>>8143485
Yes, and?

>>8143479
>Why are AT/Gust threads filled with pedophiles?

Gust's target audience has a strong overlap with that demographic.
Which should be rather obvious from the official art alone.

>>8143654
I quite prefer the ones filled with excessive womanliness.

>>8143479
It's not AT/Gust threads so much as 4chan overall.

Though honestly I think that if you made the DFCs into cowtits and vice versa character popularities wouldn't change much.

>>8143901
>Finnel with big tits
Dumb bitch
>Flay Saki
So moe, she is perfection!

I guarantee this would be the case.

>>8143932
>DFC Saki
no.

>>8143654
Hey, Soma's not pedo. I think.

Am I the only one who had to skip Finnel's purges due to finding them kinda disgusting?

I love Finnel (she's actually my second favorite as far as AT heroines go), but seeing just the nipples spring...

>>8144208
I don't remember anything of the sort, but then, I'm pretty indifferent when it comes to breasts.

>>8139034
http://www.hdmoviesource.com/product-p/1629.htm

I've used them 3 times before with no issues, seemingly the cheapest I can find.

>>8144208
Hey, screw you. I found that hot, not to mention you get to see her cute little butt.

>>8144218

$20 card for $22? Is this standard? I can get a £25 card emailed to me for £20 or less at any given time so having to pay more just strikes me as odd.

>>8143932

Finnel would act completely different though since she's insecure about her chest. It'd certainly remove a lot of her charm though if she actually had breasts. As for Saki she's a retarded moeblob, disgusting tumours or not. I'd still hate her regardless of her chest size.

>>8143479
>Surprised
>Pedo instead of lolicon
Me thinks you're new here.
>best heroine
That's not Jakuri.

Still playing Rorona, at Year 2 12/15, and might go for Cordelia first. My trust level's at 47%, can I still make it to 80% before Year 4?

>>8146180
Yeah, it's pretty easy to raise her friendship so long as you have the right materials.

>>8146180
Have you already taken the 25% hit from doing Cordelia's front requests? Should be fine either way, but might need to do some hefty request grinding if not.

I think the requests are biased towards items you currently have in your basket, so find a few requests you like, wholesale the items, and keep some of each on hand.

Who has the biggest chest?

>>8146202
Reisha

>>8146360

I would have said Ayano ... but I guess they're about the same.

>>8146360

Saki, Cloche and Spica have pretty huge breasts too. (Adult) Misha and Aurica are also pretty big, at least according to Nagi's art.

>>8146202
Saki.

>>8146360
>>8146202
>etc.

What about Sarapatra? Or do personas not count?

>>8146202
Reisha's are the biggest, from what I remember reading in the Tokousphere.

>>8149920

I'd be concerned for Reisha considering Croix is a breast sommelier.

>>8150805
I don't think she'll be too worried. Both of her daughters will ensure nothing happens out of pure jealousy or for the sake of pride

>>8138823

So I'm a bit confused here. Is the AT3 DLC sale for the US PSN Store only or am I doing something wrong if the DLCs are still normally priced? (EU PSN Account)

And if it's US only, why they hell do they advertise it on their EU Twitter account?

>>8150868

The NISA website states the holiday sale is from the 28th until the 5th, whether that includes the EU or not I'm not sure but I imagine it does.

>>8150968
Yeah, the holiday sale starts on the 28th. I was referring to the DLC sale though, which supposedly started on the 22nd.

http://www.nisamerica.com/index.php?nav=n&article=pbomb/PrinnyBomb_Vol181.html

>>8150977

Oh, my mistake then. The EU PSN store takes a while to update though from personal experience so that may be why, I believe changes on the EU store only occur on Wednesdays so you may need to wait until then. I don't see anything on the EU twitter though.

Imagine:

You're at the cinema, waiting for a movie to start. The lights dim, the trailers for some boring film you don't care about passes, then the next trailer starts and suddenly
>RRHA KI RA TIE YOR INI EN NHA
>WEE KI RA PARGE YOR AR CIEL
>WAS YEA RA CHS MEA YOR EN FWAL
>MA KI GA KS MAYA YOR SYEC
hits. What is your immediate reaction?
Those are the opening lines of Harmonics Eolia if you can't remember

>>8151465

"Oh dear god, no please."

Nothing good will ever come from a hollywood adaption of Ar Tonelico.

Heck, I don't even know if an anime adaption would work.

>>8151542
>I don't even know if an anime adaption would work.
The last try didn't work well AT ALL, but that's because they tried to cram it into an OVA.

A full series for each game would probably work a lot better, as they'd actually have time to cover shit and follow the plot better.

My reaction would probably be the same, because as much as I'd love an AT movie, Hollywood would fuck it up BIG TIME.

>>8151465

>>8151542
>>8151575

An anime adaptation would work perfectly, as the game is so linear.

The only toubling part would be the ANIME ORIGINAL VERSIONS of Ryner's choice for the phase 2 heroine and combine them both, as well as never diving beyond phase 4 for either girl, and then followed by an ANIME ORIGINAL ENDING involving Misya going on a song tour, Orica making a music box shop, and Eolia returning to her tower administration job and leaving Ryner all alone with only his father to comfort him in the hotel at night.

>>8152614
So no Ayatane asking his mother for freedom just to live happily ever after together with Lyner?

>>8152614
but you're forgetting that Third Girl Is Always Canon

>>8152614
>as well as never diving beyond phase 4 for either girl
You can dive till phase 9 just fine.

>>8152614
It seems you hate Lyner huh?
>>8153003
Is it? Isn't it harem end for lyner?

>>8153010

For AT1, you could even finish all the Cosmospheres since - assuming I remember them correctly - they never seemed as absolute as those in AT2 or 3 and would allow for a non-conclusive end where Lyner doesn't choose a girl.

>>8153021
Well, there's the argument that Aurica end may also be canon due to the fact her and Shurelia's endings are practically identical, and also the fact that Shurelia is one of the two reyvateil origins that Kurogane didn't get his creepyness involved in the development process and therefore doesn't have genitalia

How about an anime adaptation of Arpeggio?

>>8153050

Sasha could fix that little problem though, probably.

>>8154790
I..uh..what.

>>8154790
Rerequesting someone draw Sasha chasing after Shurelia trying to fix her while Shurelia runs away tripping and crying.

>>8154888

Sasha is a prodigy - a born genius. Even if the technology is lost she could probably do something about Shurelia's little problem. If Sasha can make a satellite to transfer power across the world from nothing but scrap I imagine she can install a fleshlight.

>>8155818
She should take Lyner as her assistent, as he can work miracles with the proper instruction/recipe.

>>8156174
Actually, they should both team up and try to figure out how the fuck most of the stuff Aoto makes works, maybe harness his powers of physics-breaking stupidity for good

>>8155818
Physical alterations to origins would involve modifying their H-Cellophanes, which are 'Read-Only' (which is also the reason why her personality is static)

Yes, Sasha is the greatest mind since Infel and most likely has the technical know-how to be able to build her own SH-Server. So sure, fixing something as minor as the bug in Shurelia's locational awareness would be possible (if Shurelia lets her) but modifying the H-Cellophane in an Origin reyvateil?

Infel is love.

Nenesha is a bitch.

...why do i imagine Sasha with pic related.

>>8156252

Could her memories be exported to another body? I'm sure Sasha could probably make her a new one if her current body can't be altered. It would be identical, of course.

>>8156573
I could see shurelia wishing for an older looking body and being disappointed, as it would be exactly the same, still stuck "inbetween"

>>8156353
>Infel is love.
ISWYDT

>>8156414
No, that's Aoto's style of modification. And it would somehow turn out perfectly

>>8156779
Nonsense. The self-proclaimed eternally 16 year old doesn't want an older looking body, she just wants a bigger chest; but that's impossible since the mark of a true Origin reyvateil is their washboard profile. Even Tilia could only fake it via her Linker suit.

>>8159668

>The self-proclaimed eternally 16 year old doesn't want an older looking body, she just wants a bigger chest

Nope.

Her big gripe is that her body is neither that of an adult nor a child. Its stuck at that awkward stage in between. She keeps her face covered because she doesn't have the look of an adult otherwise.

What she REALLY wants is to experience childhood and adulthood as regular people do.

And given a choice, she'd probably prefer a body that appears to be in its early-to-mid 20s.

>>8159668

>the mark of a true Origin reyvateil is their washboard profile

I love science.

On another note, does anyone have the in-game version of METHOD_METAFALICA?

God, Ar tonelico gives me such a music boner. I just started a second playthrough of AT2 (Japanese audio and Cloche route as opposed to dub and Jacqli route) and I noticed how in the opening video version of Reisha's Lullaby they leave out the latter half of the song's one hymmnos line:
Was yea ra sonwe infel en yor
Which is a really nice subtle bit of foreshadowing you'd probably only catch in replays.

Also, the translated lyrics for METHOD_REPLEKIA/. for the bit they use in the anime scene before the Ryuju fight fitting really well with the actual scene itself was brilliant.

Also the Tower of Harvestasha leitmotif (Azure Land/All Things In Nature/Memory of Tower/Welcome TO The Guide Tour) has been stuck in my head all week, and I keep catching myself huymming it.

THIS SERIES.

>>8161118
AT2 really has the best hymmnos.

>>8161144
+9001
I did believe hymmnos couldn't get any better than what was done in AT1, and then AT2 made me realize how wrong it is to take supposition as fact. A miracle like that didn't happen a second time with AT3 though. No, I mean, they're still awesome, Harmonic Tilia is still AT's OP tier, Ec Tisia defines the whole new Ec Tisia tier for me, and stuff like EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE and EXEC_COSMOSLIPS are some of the best hymmnos ever written, but what's with the red side, really? EXEC_FLIP_FUSIONSPHERE and XaaaCii are ok, but for fuck's sake most of them don't even sound like a hymmnos Also it's kinda sad that the original hymmnos singers didn't contribute as much as before. Seriously, the fuck was that, Yuuko Ishibashi even completely disappeared, and Mitose Noriko had like only one song.

>>8161635
It's called progress. ;_;

>>8161118
Nakagawa/Achiwa/Tsuchiya's notes must have some kind of goddamn magic on them. It's the only explanation.
I won't even post examples, because we all know what I'm talking about. No, wait, I have to post examples.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Ux3CbV-BI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldg9tvlPDW0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UwEutxA17c

Even Atelier Iris had some terrific tracks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObN0ydUF4S8

Man, now I'll have to listen to all the soundtracks again.

>>8161768
What, but I thought Lost Performance was Shikata Akiko's?
Tsuchiya Akira's and Shikata Akiko's compositions sometimes share a very unique taste in common though, to the extent that I've always thought they must be bro musician to each other, not just some mere fellow co-worker.

>>8161862
The booklet annotations for that track only credit her for the chorus, see pic.

>bro musician
That sounds like it would be awesome.

>>8161899
On second thought though, as far as I know that doesn't state who actually composed the chorus. Of course Shikata sung it, but she may or may not have composed it.

The NISA store has started their thanksgiving sale http://store.nisamerica.com/Sale

>>8161635
I don't know, i liked Cutypump - while it deviates from usual AT style it is still very good in its own way.
And ViiBaCi_MjiiRa is one of the best AT songs ever (again, in my opinion). chmod was very good too.
But i can't hate AT music, even battle theme from first game.

>>8161768

I think AT1/2 are the only games I know where listening to a BGM track instantly makes me want to hook up my PS2 and start up the game. Not so much for AT1 - the Cosmosphere tracks and the Nemo / Startup themes are awesome, the others are "only" good - but listening to a AT2 track would equal to something like an "instant boner" (a somewhat weird comparison, I know ... but words are failing me here).

>bro musician
See, that's the thing I really missed when I compared the Atelier Chronicle artbook to the AT artbook: while the former has two really interesting interviews with Shimotsuki and the GUST Soundteam, the latter only has some general hymnos talk in the interview.

I would have loved to read more about the songs and their creation process, especially from Shikata/Shimotsuki/Mitose.

Also, best BGM track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVSbBeULas
you are now doomed to play this on loop for the next few hours

>>8162028
I never said they were terrible or anything. As stand alone songs they're enjoyable at the very least, but shit sure had gone down hill when compared to the predecessors red side.
They also lack, you know, the Ar Tonelico charm.

>>8162118

It's the bath music, isn't it?

... God damn it.

>>8161118
>Welcome to the Guide Tour!
God dammit, now I'll be hearing that song in my head for the next few days.

>>8161635
exec_Vienna is one of my absolute favourites in AT2 because how it was used in the game. Fuck it, virtually all of AT2's hymmnos were brilliantly used in-game and have so much more impact because of it.

>>8161768
The Atelier Iris track. Dear lord that is beautiful.

>>8163856
>exec_Vienna is one of my absolute favourites in AT2 because how it was used in the game. Fuck it, virtually all of AT2's hymmnos were brilliantly used in-game and have so much more impact because of it.

Honestly, I'd say AT2 had the best soundtrack overall, including the hymms and how they were used.

>>8162118
> for the next few hours
Hasn't gotten out of my head since 2007

EXEC_REBIRTHIA=PROTOCOL came on right as I neared home.

Seriously, I don't think any of the other ingame Hymmnos can top it for me, everything else is just below by like a nanometer in my heart. Its fantastic instrumentation and Kokia's amazing delivery blows up my entire tier-list every time I hear it and I forget about all the other AT songs I love.

http://shop.salburg.com/product/sikata_fes_2011/

>>8164562
2012 GUST artwork calendar. I want it soooo bad but I need to translate that darn shop site...

>>8164576
I don't think Salburg ships internationally, anyways.

>>8164562
> vocal music score of EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY
BUY IT NOW FAGGOT, BUY IT NOW

>>8164562
I wish to upend my currency at them as well, how do I receive goods?

>>8164562
It feels good having all of that (minus Istoria ~Kalliope~, obviously), at least in digital pirated format.
I'd like that gift score to be scanned, though.

>>8164562
Hoooooly shit

>>8164622
Proxy services, lots of them.

>>8164801

It'd probably feel better if you could support an artist you like by buying their CDs / legal digital copies. I mean, without paying close to double the retail price for importing / proxying or other workarounds like JP iTunes gift cards.

Up to this day, I fail to understand why Japanese labels actively refuse to take my money.

Also: have a random Jakuri.

>>8164629
For the love of god someone please buy this and make scans

I really wish I could spare money

I just recently bought Atelier Totori (first Atelier game, relatively new to the Gust/NISA world of gaming, upset I didn't get into it earlier) and my ps3 decided to only run for the first 10 minutes before over-heating... at least I hope it's only an over-heating issue. Still, so upset ;_;

But I do have a real quesiton: The manual says that Rorolina was the protagonist in another game (I'm guessing Atelier Rorona); am I going to be missing part of the story because I haven't played it? Or do the Atelier games stand alone, with character/world overlaps?

>>8167498
For the most part, world/character overlaps. There will be a fair few references which while not important to the actual story, will be enjoyable if you understand them as it does build on the characters from the events in Rorona.

I posted a quick and dirty run down on the different character events in Rorona in the previous threads (http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/7987571#7996765))

>>8164562
Well ... here's to hoping that the proxy service doesn't mess up. Oh yeah, apparently, you also get some Meruru Washcloth / Handkerchief as bonus item if you order for more than 2500 yen.

>>8167498
Same deal as playing Rune Factory 3 before the first two, if you were around for that. You play RF3, you'll never be able to go back and play the earlier ones.

>>8168619
As a matter of interest, what proxy are you using?
I've never needed one before, but I sure as hell do no.

Finally found atelier iris 2 & 3 for a good price
now I just need the mana khemia games and the first tonelico

are any of the games before iris translated or worth looking into?

>>8168854

I didn't have any previous proxy experience so, after some Google-fu and checking out a few of the services, I went with fromjapan.co.jp.

So far they're making a good impression, my request was processed shortly after I placed the order and the proxy order was made about 10 minutes after I finished the first payment (first payment is for the item itself, second payment will be for shipping).

On a different note and from the NISA twitter page:

Product Page for Neptunia 2: http://t.co/uJo8njtM
Release date is 24th February 2012

>>8167498 ps3 decided to only run for the first 10 minutes before over-heating.
Oh, I understand it completely.

>>8168922

How bad are the additional costs? Delivery outside of Japan, especially through proxy services, usually costs a ridiculous amount.

>>8169337

Not bad at all, at least so far. Shipping fees are probably gonna suck though; insurance usually means EMS or DHL which costs like 1000 - 2000 yen. You can choose that you prefer cheaper shipping (probably air mail) when you place the order.

>>8169893

Keep me updated on that, I'm curious to see what the grand total comes to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWKSfdo9DT8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1GtMiKXE_E

I had expected that by now I would be sick of listening Hymmnos, but this is not the case. It's the first time this has happened to me with anything and it's been years now.

>>8171017
I hear ya. Hymmnos concerts have been mainstays on my mp3 player since I bought them.

>>8169893
What mediator is that? I was thinking of ordering from Gust and I wanted to ask them by email but it seems like they denied gaijin emails.

>>8169893
> 2011
> Mio
bump

>>8166289
Yeah, I foolishly wanted to buy a certain 26,250円 box set when it came out, but with shipping fees and importing taxes (herpderp 60% of the item's value) it would have gotten to an astronomical sum. And there's always the chance that the guys from my shit country's customs liked the item and made it disappear.
It would be nice having real CDs and merchandise, I would gladly give them my money, but it's not going to happen.

>>8169893
Wait wait wait, you're ordering Mio through a proxy?!

... You do know you can get that from amazon.co.jp, right? And they do ship worldwide (that's how I got my AT3 OST and LE hymmnos concert box set). As of this post, it's 2,804 yen plus shipping.

>>8173082
Amazon's shipping rapes some countries for no apparent reason.
For example I'm an Ausfag and I tried ordering Kara Kola and the LE version of ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ from Amazon.co.jp. I got to the checkout and what do you know; the shipping fee was 100% of the combined cost of the items.

I thought I was insane when I contemplated buying 2 CDs for $50. With the shipping cost included right there that's $100. For 2 CDs.
Fuck that and fuck Amazon.

>>8173082

I'm fully aware that it would have been cheaper to order directly at amazon, cdjapan or whatever. Or I could have tried a local store that does imports, though they tend to overcharge like mad, depending on what you want to buy (and Mio happens to be one of those things).

The whole point of my order is getting the bonus item (chronicle key score), though, so I kinda have to order at the GUST shop, which doesn't do international orders.

See also:
>>8164562

>>8173168
I'm an ausfag too, and the last shipment I got, which were said CDs, cost me 9,581 yen in the goods themselves and 2,800 yen in shipping/handling.

>>8173197
Oh, you were after the bonus printed score. Carry on then. And BTW, I have to say I am damn proud that a rather notable portion of us in this thread are buyfags even if the objects of our desires cost us a significant amount of moolah

>>8173197
Y-you'll be kind and scan it and upload it for us, right, Anon? Can we count on you?

>>8173200
Interesting. I just re-added my order and the shipping has been reduced since last time. It used to be ~3600円, now it's 2600.

Still pretty ridiculous, but less insane.

>>8173200
>bonus
Wait a minute. I can't into moon, and neither can google translate apparently.
Is it that if you pay for an order over a certain amount you get the printed score as a bonus? I thought the Meruru Handkerchief was the bonus? If so, how much do you need to buy?

>>8173264
An arbitrary Shikata Akiko's CD to get the score, and over 2500 yen or so to get the handkerchief.
The moon is not exactly strong within me so I'm not quite sure myself.

Hai GUSTfags.
I have received my copy of Atelier Series Official Chronicle and I got this uncontrollable urge to play all Ateliers from Atelier Marie to Atelier Violet but for life of me I can't find any downloads for that. Did it go extinct or I am looking in the wrong places?

>>8173486
You're looking for PS1 and untranslated PS2 games. Have fun!

>>8173492
Hmmm. I guess I will first play what I can play right now and then start digging for old stuff. Seems like a hell of a journey looking for that.

>>8170884

I still love EXEC_PHANTASMAGORIA/. as an ending theme. There's just something about Sol Ciel coming together and singing that just gives you a 'Fuck yeah' feeling.

>>8168958
Oh god why do I want a loop of Totori doing this for a few hours?

So fucking adorable.

>>8175405

Don't do it, Anonymous. Your body will never be able to handle it.

>>8175710
We'll never know until I try.

Someone find me a loop!

Gust thread with no barrel? I think not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nyweMh5ltQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHRUGlpXBEE

And the best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJR4FO1nYFc

>>8176842
How did it all start, and how the fuck can a barrel inflict sleep? Was it loaded with sleeping... poison?
And full-size map models? I must play Totori. I wish I were a bird rich like the people on /jp/ with PS3s.

>>8176148
I wanted to make one from this, but the scene switches to another shot before a full loop is done.

>>8170805

As I thought, the fees for the proxy service itself aren't that bad, but intl. shipping is gonna rape my wallet. But it's gonna be worth it! ;_;

>>8177157
That's not too bad considering you now know you can get 'Japan only' stuff.

>>8176941

Why not leech off the government or something?

>>8177057
Yeah I know what you mean. Almost none of the points in the game where she does this last very long. The model viewer is fucking useless and doesn't let you do more than one animation.

I'll find a loop some day. I hope.

>>8175405
I hope your body can take it.

Oh boy, Atelier Totori avatars on PSN

>>8176842
I just realised, you never get BARREL! in Ar tonelico. Is it just an Atelier & Mana Khemia thing? Or is it actually in AT and I just never found it?

>>8180228
AT is too cool for that.

>>8176941

More importantly, living barrels work really hard.

>>8180025
I think the K-ON! avatars were better.

>>8181669
Are they on the Japanese PSN or are you joking around?

>>8181672
Japanese PSN. I want that Azunyan avatar but my main account is the US one, so yeah.

>>8181679
God fucking dammit Rest of the World, give me K-ON avatars

>>8181760
No Azunyan for filthy gaijin.

New thread:
>>8182580