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8098624 No.8098624 [Reply] [Original]

Why didn't Kiritsugu give Avalon back to Saber from the beginning?

>> No.8098638

Because PLOT HOLES

>> No.8098668

Because Kiritsugu didn't really give rat shit about Saber in the first place.

>> No.8098671

Dude needed an ona-hole.

>> No.8098676

did he even know it could be used as a Noble Phantasm?

>> No.8098677

Because he wanted to protect his wife.

>> No.8098680

That only works when you have an actual plothole OP. Shit was explained. Must have not tried at all, those are easy to find in TM.

fucking embarrassign you smegmanugget.

>> No.8098686

I have a better question.
Why Shirou after having sex with several girls in different routes no one of them got pregnant.

>> No.8098687
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>>8098668
Aww hell...Why is he so mean to Fate...?

>> No.8098688

>>8098686
He shoots blanks.

>> No.8098691

>>8098686
Shirou has no balls.

>> No.8098701

>>8098686
Saber -We don't even know if Servants can get pregnant.
Rin - Probability was not on his side
Sakura - Penis worms.

>> No.8098716

Are there tiny swords swimming around inside of Shirou's semen?

>> No.8098728

Why would Nero and Arthoria look the same?

>> No.8098737

>>8098728
Arturia is of Roman descent.

>> No.8098759

>>8098716
Yes.
How else do you think he managed to not have his dick mangled by the penis worms swimming in Sakura's cavernous vagina?

>> No.8098802

>>8098737
>Romans
>Blond
Blond hair is for barbarians only.

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>>8098802
>Blond hair is for barbarians only.

Untermensch.

>> No.8099218

>>8099205
Yes, because hitler was so blond right?
Retard.

>> No.8099225

>>8098686
I have an even better question.
How come we never see the protagonist fapping in the span of the weeks when it's stream of consciousness? Shirou lives in celibate and jackhammers, but Shiki is the kind of a guy who would first feel awkard in the new house, but would still start fapping into the bed after a few days.

>> No.8099235

>>8098802
Arcueid is blonde, and she is stated to be the Original One. So no.

>> No.8099247

>>8098802
except these barbarians who are blond were Skyth and they were assimilated into the roman empire for most part durin Nero's rule already.

>> No.8099262

Can anybody explain what happened to Sabre and Shirou in the canon ending. Did Sabre actually die in the true ending.

>> No.8099300

>>8099262
If she was satisfied with the conlusion of the war and gave up on the Grail, she went to Avalon. If not, she would propably get a chance to look for the Grail elsewhere, since another war is not happening. I am not even sure if she is cleansed after heaven's feel though.
After she goes to Avalon, she would spent her time there leisurely.
Except in Fate routes, where she is waiting for Shirou.
Who might and might not know.
And might and might not trace and use the scabbard as a key to get to Saber at the end of his life.
Actually, this happened in ONE universe for all we know.

>> No.8099311

>>8099300

>And might and might not trace and use the scabbard as a key to get to Saber at the end of his life.

What game was this in, I forgot which Fate games I played to completion.

>> No.8099323

>>8098624

By giving it to Irisviel, he facilitated his other-Master trick, and also made his wife nearly immortal while letting her be a healer for Saber.

He probably thought that as a healing item, Irisviel's healing magic would be a sufficient replacement, as it's shown he didn't realize HOW gargantuan the regeneration capacity of Avalon is until he uses it himself. And he probably didn't know its activation ability as a Noble Phantasm at all, and he never listens to Saber.

>> No.8099331
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>>8099262
>>8099300
>>8099311

Realta Nua - Last Episode shows a prophecy by Merlin reaching a conclusion, that "one must strive forever and one must wait forever" for another to enter Avalon.
Shirou gets there too after the Fate route, after a long and toilsome life similar to Archer's.

>> No.8099335

>>8099331

Fuckkk. Now there's a legitimate excuse to not have a 3D waifu -- Saber is waiting for you in Avalon.

>> No.8099338

>>8099311
It's sort of given.

Saber goes into the Avalon after her wish is fulfilled - after that, she also quite likely finally becomes a counter guardian.
Avalon opens door to a pocket world and this is used as a defensive measuer - this is why when Shirou first traces it, it is actually Gilgamesh who is hurt and blown away, and has a piece of his own armor damaged even, because all the energy from Ea didn't have anywhere to go. It is even noted in the description that it doesn't withstand or owerpower the enemy attack, it just closes you away from it.

If I wanted to get to Avalon where Saber is, the first thing I would do is tracing the Scabbard.

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8099340

We will never have a vn or Light novel about future Shirou. ;_;

>> No.8099343

>>8099331
Last episode is as canon as Sakura sucking blood.

>> No.8099348

>>8099331

>Last Episode

F/N anime is more canon

>> No.8099358

>>8099343

They're both canon, and so is you sucking my cock.

>> No.8099359

>>8099340
points of interest:
Archer had a close friend who betrayed him in the end.
Archer died pierced by a lot of his own swords -how would that happen?
Archer's teammate shown in Fate/Extra isn't very visible, but whoever it is, he has blue hair.

Ciel fucking killed Archer. I fucking know this. This is exactly the kind of shit I would expect Ciel to do. She is the greates living mage after all and possibly might have acces to Roa's RM. Ciel could totally beat Emiya and doesn't even need to be immortal. Ciel killed Archer. Fuck.

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>>8099343

Incorrect. The replacement scenes aren't canon, but Last Episode is not a replacement scene.

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>>8099348

The only thing from the anime that got included into canon is how Archer's swords look like when he does Kanshou and Bakuya Overedge.

Last Episode was written by Nasu to give Saber a happy ending. It's not non-canon by any measure.

>> No.8099361

>Why didn't Kiritsugu give Avalon back to Saber from the beginning?

To answer this question -- we wouldn't have the franchise if Shirou didn't have avalon

>> No.8099365

>>8099360
Last episode was written by Nasu to appease saberfags after she turned out to be the most popular girl.
Fanfiction-tier.

>> No.8099368

>>8099365

Saber was always the main heroine of the series, what are you talking about.

I'm a rin fag btw

>> No.8099366

>>8099360

Not the guy you're replying to; I'm pretty new to type-moon, what's considered canon and what isn't in the fate series? I never read secondary sources other than the novels or games themselves.

>> No.8099367

>>8099359

>Archer's teammate shown in Fate/Extra isn't very visible, but whoever it is, he has blue hair.

Emiya Shirou and No-Name are not the same people, despite similar appearances and abilities. They're alternates.

No-Name is not a Counter Guardian, he is how "the boy who would have been Emiya Shirou" grew up and lived in the Fate/Extra universe (where magic dies and the Holy Grail Wars imploded).

>> No.8099374

>>8099365

>Nasu
>fan-fiction

Okay, so SSiB is Touhou fanfiction too right

>> No.8099385

>>8099367
He still is the result of the 4th war's aftermath. He has a few of Archer's weapons, though none are from Gil's vault. He still presumably practiced Kyudo. But yeah, it is someone very different.

>> No.8099382

>>8099365

It's not fanfiction, just him kind of grasping at straws to give King Arthur a happy ending when King Arthur's tale always ends in tragedy.

>>8099366

First order canon: Visual novels. (Realta Nua is a second-order VN, being a rerelease of F/SN)
Second order canon: supplementary material. (Character and world materials)
Third order canon: anything else. (Manga, anime, games other than Melty Blood)

>> No.8099386

>>8099367
That can't be right. He clearly knows the characters from his original world.

>> No.8099389

>>8099382

>(Realta Nua is a second-order VN, being a rerelease of F/SN)

It's like you really hate Saber or something.

>> No.8099394

>>8099386
Presumably in copying EMIYA's abilities, he also copied his memories.
So he's a faker of a faker.

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>>8099389

You realize how orders work?

"If it doesn't contradict a higher order, it can be accepted as canon".

Last Episode contradicts NOTHING from Fate/Stay Night proper.

>> No.8099405

>>8099382
>Second order canon: supplementary material. (Character and world materials)
When they're written by the original writer, why would they be "second order"? Realta Nua is about as canon as the original FSN

>> No.8099413
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>>8099405

They're just Nasu saying a lot of disjointed stuff with Takeuchi's doodling to get some extra money.

>> No.8099428

>>8099413

So, exactly the same as FSN itself then.

>> No.8099434

>>8099406

>"If it doesn't contradict a higher order, it can be accepted as canon"

Holy shit, I don't... like even... what

>> No.8099440

>>8099434

Probably some kind of Star Wars forum bullshit.

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