/jp/ - Otaku Culture

'sup Woxxy? Why do you feel the need to whore out your archive all the time? Advertisment income going down, or what?

>>8092918
>Woxxy
>Wondering why attention whoring
Dude, this guy plainly admit it, in a non-jokingly way, that he only does things (scnalatin, archive, etc) for attention.

>>8092940
>typos
Sorry, it's really cold where I am and I don't have heating. My fingers don't move on their own.

Is Woxxy hosting his shitty site from Italy? Must be why it loads so fast.

I think Warosu as Easymodo's shy little sister who has inherited her elder sister's job as the archivist but lacks self-confidence and isn't sure that she can handle the job.

Therefore, she's my preferred archive.

>>8092963
Same here, for now, ther's no reason to use foolz. Both have Sphinx backed searches, both are fast. But only one has ADS.

Bwaka is pretty redundant to the other archives, I don't think its even used or known about.

Whatever 4chanX redirects me to.

So easymodo.

>>8092988
>So easymodo
How stupid can you be?

foolz works with /b/ackwash reloaded. That's good enough for me.

>>8092988
Oh, not anymore.

>>8092979
So is the dyndns one.

>>8092990
I'm not here 24/7 and it's been a busy busy month, alright?

>>8092979
>>8092996
Redundancy is not bad. Who knows, maybe woxxy will drop the archive once he finds out that j-list ads bring no money.

>>8092998
Why haven't you joined the NEET master race yet?

When will the warosu devs stop shitposting? Only few circlejerkers go there, and need to advertise their shithole. This is worse than bun and that anontalk spam.

>>8093002
I'm just working for my NEET gold, so I can take it easy.

>>8093003
>warosu devs
You seem confused.

When I check the archives, I check foolz and warosu at the same time.

Arguing over who is better is really silly.

>>8093013
>Foolz devs damage control
I bet you also click on ads at foolz?

>>8093006
The image posted from Foolz is obviously used in order to invoke anger against it because it's a customization. Also, the spoiler.

You are the confused one.

Whatever the better archive is, I just hope people will agree to use just one. Don't want the ghosts to drift apart.

>>8093015
I'm not a Dev nor do I click ads.

I prefer bwaka even though its a little slower, it was the fastest to respond to the image server changes to it and seems to catch posts before 404 which foolz sometimes doesn't archive.

>>8093015
Why are you not using ABP?

>>8093028
It has a patchy favicon, that settles it. Patchuliou watches over that archive.

>>8093033
I don't like having too many extensions, also, ads is what moves the whole internet, but in case of foolz, they are there just because of GREED.

>>8093037
They shouldn't profit from something they didn't make.

>>8093027
You're not the same Prinny that works with Woxxy?

Why does easymodo's /jp/ address redirects to foolz anyway?

>>8093048
http://archive.easymodo.net/

>>8093033
You don't really need to click the ads.
As long as they get a bunch of visitors, they can then randomly click on the ads and it will all look legit.

>>8093046
Nope.

>>8093042
>profit
you don't understand what profit is.

They make a loss on hosting the archive, simply put the cost of hosting the archive exceeds massively any money they gain from ads.

http://twitter.com/#!/woxxy/status/133593423805550592
Woxxy's dick gets so hard whenever people talk about him.

Compared to him, Eksi was a quiet and humble modest little girl.

>>8093057
I don't think you understand how cheap webhosting is, when done right.
Foolz goons already have a server for their scanlation faggotry, it's not like they rent a 300€/m machine just for the archive.

I'm confused. I've spent a few months out of /jp/ and now something seems to have happened with the archive?

>>8093065
I don't think you grasp the resources the archive needs.

You can't run the archive decently on less than 4GB of RAM, it just won't work on a cheap $20/month VPS.

>>8093067
Just use patchy archive fuuka.bwaka.net, she's a little slow because she's sickly but she does the job for /jp/

I miss Eksopl's. He was modest and nice, unlike this attention whoring faggot.

>>8093073
Fix the speed issues first, then I'll use it. Anything is better than woxxy's jewness.

http://www.mediafire.com/?cu17cp18mtuqu8j

latest stable 4chan x that redirect to warosu.

Unrelated, but is there a way to make the "alternate archive links" at the headers link directly to the current thread?

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Bitch about it
on ???

I haven't been using the archives recently because I want everyone to read my complains, not just some of them. I'll wait for a few months and see how's the situation then.

>>8093108
whatever archive that supports ghost posting.

>>8093090
That's an interesting suggestion.

>>8093090
why? theres no point in that.

What do you need an archive for? To maintain a record of all the shitty threads you morons post every minute of every day?

That's some dedicated autism, right there.

warosu

>>8093187
yeah, need to pick up all that contact info for normalfag sex parties.

Might as well post it in here, I finished some speed ups on bwaka (for until I can figure out why sphinx is being a bitch), and implemented cross-archive links as its only fair since warosu linked my board.

Will write up a native quick-reply and thread watcher later.

>>8093346
Mah nigga!

>>8093072
That's funny, my archive runs on a slow single core 3 GHz with only 1 GB RAM. And the archive isn't the only thing it hosts.

>>8093379
That's because you're not running Sphinx.

>>8093346
What do you think about >>8093090 ? I'm thinking of implementing it.

>>8093379
You aren't hosting many boards are you, 2gb recommended per a board.

warosu or bwaka

>>8093417
Not sure what you mean, I've put thread links for the foolz and warosu, as in [Original] [Foolz] [Warosu] if that is what you mean?

>>8093422
Why would you archive anything other than /jp/?

>>8093436
Most people visit multiple boards. Sorry to have to break the news.

>>8093435
why link to foolz?

>>8093422
>2Gb recommended
Stop spouting bullshit.
I won't comment on how shitty Perl is or how overbloated fuuka might or might not be, but 512MB per board is more than enough.

>>8093459
For /a/ mostly, its the only board hosting /a/ besides myself .. I think there was a no.ip archive that had a load of boards, I forgot the url.

>>8093072
If only you knew what kind of shit I manage to host on a ghetto 20$/m server...

>>8093438
Not true /jp/sies.

>>8093435
Yes. Forgot that the [Original] links are there; that should make it fairly easy to implement.

I like warosu the most because its simple and there are no fuckhuge graphics on the front page

I use warosu and bwaka. Please don't let your archives die; I don't want to use foolz.

>>8093464
2GB recommended for a+jp+m+tg all together.

>>8093497
That's much more believable.
A 2GB server with unlimited traffic costs like 20€ a month.

I use warosu.

>>8093482
oh also I like the changes they added, navigation a the top and bottom and next/previous page buttons

Fuuka needs 1.6gb ram to run 5 boards, with Sphinx set at one minute. We're running 6+6 threads each board, 6 cgi-perl instances, and we set stupidly fast refresh time.
That's not considering the MySQL, that if set for performance, will very fast spawn a dozen of threads and occupy more RAM.

In other words, you need 2GB to avoid swapping and ending up in a lockup. In the end, 3GB+ if you have other things on the server, like PHP running and a consistent site.

I'm now working at making the fetcher threads go to sleep when they are not needed, but that's in Java, so nobody will like it.

>Search speed
>Cirno

What?

>>8093531
>Switching from Perl to Java for daemon writing

>>8093531
You want to be careful about the refresh rate, moot said on Aim, he will ban ips that hit the index too hard.

>>8093537
Once you finish Perl code, you won't be able to understand what the hell you wrote anyways.
Should be written in Haskell.
No surprise these faggots are incompetent though. I bet they haven't even read SICP.

>>8093543
Not that hard yet I hope, but quite faster than the original values.

>>8093546
>wants to write a state-polling daemon
>Haskell

>>8093543
>too hard
Did he say anything else? Like, how hard is too hard?

It would be nice to ask to get whitelisted or something.

>>8093549
Well he settled on the original values when i told him them, not sure what you can get away with, he does watch the archives though.

Can someone recommend me a cheap dedicated server/VPS for Share and PD that's not kimsufi or ovh?

>>8093564
I'll step back then. The issue is when threads that hit reply limit get mod-deleted, because the further pages get by default fetched really rarely.

>>8093570
>http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-sc.xhtml
Omelette du fromage

>>8093061
But Eksi was a non-virgin slut, or so claimed to be.

>>8093570
virpus.com
hetzner.de

As far as stats go, foolz is the best archive up at the moment. It's also made by someone not from /jp/ so we have no chance of him going emo and deleting it due to drama.

>>8093608
Cool pasta woxxy.

>>8093613
Cry more faggot. Enjoy your pygma-level drama.

We need an archive for /fk/.

>>8093608
Who are you shitting?
Foolz is made by one of the biggest attention whores on /a/.

>>8093623
I never heard of him before this and I've heard of lots of /a/ tripfags so this can't be the case. I also don't care as long as it's not a /jp/ attention whore. Those are the worst types.

>>8093627
he shows up when people start posting torture pictures of his waifu and starts attention whoring

pygma-chan drama is best drama

>>8093479
Implemented. The damn template compiler kept trying to recursively compile my inline HTML or something because I decided it was a good idea to map over the list of other archives

>>8093716
You are trying to do dangerous things.

I was using warosu, but they are pretty slow with archiving. They've missed a lot of threads.

Bwaka or jparchive seem to be the best bets.

>>8093745
What threads did you note as not having been archived? The dumper is now monitored and restarted automatically. I know there is an issue where thumbs don't get fetched for some reason.

>>8093763
>thumbnails issue
Looks like it was fixed http://code.google.com/p/fuuka/updates/list

>>8093763

They seem to be back now, but at the time, threads that were quickly deleted by the meido wouldn't show up.

>>8093793
No, not that one, some thumbs are not fetched for some reason. The change on 4chan's thumb server url was resolved quickly.

>>8093800
well it doesn't fetch new threads until every 16 minutes so you are going to miss quickly deleted threads, not that they will matter much for archiving since they won't of lasted long enough.

>>8093716
oh wow, all the archives have those links now, except foolz.

>>8093874
They're probably all different implementations, too.

>>8093886
Yes, and Woxxy's PHP CodeIgniter propulsed API enabled WebApp doesn't allow adding external links, unfortunately.

Trust me, I work for FoolZ Inc.

Will you keep mantaining the Fuuka code? #
Yes and no.

Fuuka is written in Perl, that while it's not a dead language in general, it is for web development. Who has tried installing Fuuka, surely noticed how precarious is the support by webservers for Perl. That reflects its popularity in the field.

Therefore, we won't mantain Fuuka, and we'll go on creating a new version from scratch, that we'll call "FoOlFuuka", licensed under Apache 2.0. This new version will have a PHP interface, and a Java fetcher.

We are positive that using PHP will drastically lighten the processor use through the much more flexible and stable PHP-FPM, and the use of Nginx – that most Fuuka's are using. We'll be able to implement caching very easily, and we already have a very mature framework based on CodeIgniter that we'll use to provide comprehensive administration panel, exotic services as autoupdates and an API for userscript developers.

We are also positive that using Java for the fetcher will help reducing the need of RAM, by having variable numbers of threads, and a single controller for all of them.

There will be also user-interface enhancements, but nothing that could be called "Web2.0". These will be very discrete or opt-in. Notably, it will feature a complete clone of the Fuuka interface, not to break userscripts.

Copy even a comma from this page and we'll sue the fuck out of you.

>>8093915
but It has external links though to 4chan?

>>8093928
Your going to get sued dude.

>>8093940
Sue my cock, dude

>>8093928
Basically: Perl is shit, fuuka is shit, but since we only know PHP and Java, so we will rewrite shit into other shit.

>>8093874
It's exciting to know people actually liked your suggestion.

What about styles, the green isn't too easy on my eyes.

Just remove the links to foolz.

ITT: everybody knows 8 programming languages and thinks sane programmers code in Perl anything more than init scripts.

>>8093976
Can't you use userscripts?

>>8093988
Why isn't there anyone from /prog/ around to rewrite Fuuka in LISP?

>>8093993
Better yet, why isn't someone implementing it in APL? MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY.

I will make coffee machine run the archiver and link it up to a toaster that prints the threads and draws thumbs on pieces of toast.

Those that want to view a thread will be mailed the toast.

>>8093993
>Perl
>64GB RAM to archive a single board with no thumbnails and no ghosting
I have an archiver written in ruby, runs in a VM with 256MB RAM, green threads, restarts dead workers itself, reloads configuration on the fly, no need for cron jobs, no need for watcher scripts, single file, 1600 loc.

>>8093806
Now fixed, wrote another script to fetch thumbs that don't look appear to be images locally.

>>8094324
Why is it doing that for you? Is 4chan somehow returning incomplete content for you when downloading thumbs too often?

Warosu, because I dislike the idea of someone from /a/ running the archive that I use.

I've been using VDZ's archive but seeing BETA on foolz makes me want to use foolz.

Because I like Beta a lot.

>>8094382
You are the beta

>>8094332
Don't know, it seems to save the generated HTML of itself (hitting cgi-board.pl). It's quite odd behavior and I don't understand why it's happening. Nevertheless, my script seems to be working, so thumbnails are back.

>>8094031
> Ruby

Nice joke.

>>8094393

I don't want to be beta. I want to jam it inside beta.

>>8094409
But you'll never jam anything inside anyone if you are beta

>>8094410
A beta can't even fuk other betas?

>>8094449
Not without headchomping.

>>8094030
Are you working with Message?

>>8094030
Are you working with RMS?

>>8093928
>Java
>reducing the need of RAM
How the hell does that work? That's like making something more compact by making it larger.

>>8094030
Will you deliver the toast to me by holding the toast in your mouth? We can even run into each other when turning a corner.

>>8094527
>Java
>We're Prinny and Woxxy. We're Engineering students that like developing web applications during our free time.

Does /b/ackwash work on Warosu yet?

>>8094550
>web applications

>>8094553
Nope, only foolz

>>8094553
I haven't personally used it, but I'll look into why it's not working.

>>8094555
That's what they call the custom wordpress theme they made for their blog.

>>8094553

Go to the greasemonkey extension manager

options for backwash

add http://fuuka.warosu.org/*

>>8093928
>support by webservers for Perl
>precarious
are these faggots remotely serious

>>8094553
It works, you're the same guy who STILL doesn't know how to into your script and prefers to spread lies instead.

>>8093988

Init scripts are coded in sh, not Perl.

I never knew 'sane' in programming terms meant 'community college java-school dropout'.

>>8094527
What I plan to do is having variable number of threads, because most of time the threads of Perl are just idling there, keeping the RAM busy. For the slowest boards we could keep 2 threads the most of time, and spend the extra on faster boards if needed.

Just because it's Java it doesn't mean it will be heavy. I would rather be worried about the execution speed, but this is just about regexing a few pages, so it won't be about performance.

>>8094577
No, I just asked a question. I had heard that it didn't, so I thought I'd check to see if it did yet.

>>8094609

>>8094570

>>8094606
>What I plan to do is having variable number of threads
And of course you can't do that in perl?
Come on, say it, say it that you only know how to write shitty java and php code.

Strange, why am I seeing deleted posts. I haven't touched my scripts for months.

>>8093988
Your retard is showing.

>>8094606
>For the slowest boards we could keep 2 threads the most of time, and spend the extra on faster boards if needed.
Are you talking about the "*-threads" settings, oniichan?

>>8094606
Eh, but you can do that in perl, you only need a few modifications for checks and such to improve the script.

Bwaka's perl scripts runs fine. I'm digging through the perl modules for now since I want to write a native "backwash" type system. I could do it in javascript though I suppose, but might as well learn more about the modules.

>>8095084
If /b/ackwash is a postref hover script (assume it is), you can't really implement that without... Javascript.

>>8095105
I meant as in everything within a .js file instead of a javascript statement to deal with that, I know I can get it to do a equality check for op backlinks and such features without having to use javascript.

I will write it in javascript, since that'd be best, but I still want to play around and properly understand how the system works so I can quickly adjust the system and do improvements if anything should change.

I was actually looking through the modules when the image server was changed so I knew what to change quite quickly.

>>8095121
You mean 4chan's image server? Shouldn't changing that be as simple as changing the URL in the config .pl?

>>8095128
Not saying it was hard just knowing where it was handy in quickly fixing things.
Its shoved away in Yotsuba.pm, it isn't too obvious where it is, unless you already know what perl module the url is in and while I could probably of taken time to look at code to find which perl module to change, I found out quite quick meaning I lost very few thumbs.

I most just touch the board-config.pl, cgi-board.pl and templates.pl more than the modules since you hardly need to do anything with them really.

>>8095147
Mind specifying the change? I just realized I'm losing thumbnails after a day or so.

What happened with the thumbnail server? Didn't see any changes personally.

>>8095157
You want to go into Yotsuba.pm and change
the img_link to:
img_link=>"http://0.thumbs.4chan.org/$1",

>>8095164
just what the red notice says server migration, they moved the image server, the only change on 4chan is faster uploading apparently and when it was being migrated a short time where the thumbs didn't appear.

>>8095172
I still don't get why you need to edit fuuka if nothing 'really' changed

>>8095238
for the thumbnail? because the old url points to the old images server, it won't grab the thumbnails if you don't change the url.
for any other edits I mean in the case of changes like migrations that might mean i need to do more than just change a url and then just general improvements.
Is Eksopl still maintaining the code? I'm just wondering since the bug reports go there and if ekspol or anyone else isn't maintaining the code it won't be much use sending bug reports.

>>8095172
Thank you, thankfully the only thumbnails irrecoverably lost were just the usual advertisement spam that gets deleted.

>>8095254
Uh, he committed a fix for the image server bug shortly after it first occurred.