/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Just can read it. Just to play video games like Xenoblade because companies like Nintendo are greedy fucks who don't want people to play good games.

Can't wait for Nintendo to die like they should have during the Gamecuba era.

>>8086209
Gamecube had a good selection of games you nerd. Of course, you had to have friends to enjoy them.

You wouldn't understand.

>>8086214
Any game that requires other people to be enjoyable is a failure.

>>8086214
>you had to have friends to enjoy them.
That's a lie.

I'm not fluent yet but it's coming along. I'm learning it just because i have a need to feel somewhat productive at times.

>>8086222
I can see that being true, from a social retard's point of view.

Besides, >>8086214 is wrong. There were plenty of good single player Gamecube games.

>>8086239
Did you start out learning the Hiragana alphabet, and then move on to words?

I only know a few words.

>>8086295
>Hiragana alphabet

I'm learning it, although when I actually converse with anyone I tend to forget everything I've learnt XD

about 1000 kanji, few hundred words, some basic grammar.
enough to understand the context on easy topics.

i can understand and speak basic japanese. i'm learning because i like it

A little. Hiragana + Katakana + ~300 kanji. My grammar is decent, but I suck at vocabulary. I'm doing my best.

Actually, I'm not. I'm really lazy and I hate myself for it everytime I see a new moege I'd love to read.

Only know a little, can't even speak it fluently. I like to think of myself as one of those interpreters during World War II.

Learned it mostly to play games in moonrunes, especially Super Robot Wars games.

I speak it, yeah. In terms of proficiency, I'd say I'm at about the level of a native high school student, but with a below-average vocabulary.

Started learning a few years ago, driven by the desire to consume Japanese media in its original form.

>>8086479
How did you go about learning it? Did you ever use Romaji at all? Can you watch most anime without subtitles?

I don't have an incrediblylarge japanese vocab, but cheat using knowledge from my high school mandarin class for kanji
silly west coat where I'm the only white guy

I'm learning Japanese because I hate my own country, actually.

I've read like 3 books of grammar and now i'm just learning kanji and vocabulary

I know hiragana and katakana but my vocabulary is awful, and kanji seems really daunting. Any tips?

>>8086493
I learned it through online learning materials and university courses (only for the very beginning). I found that listening to radio dramas and Japanese conversations (through podcasts, etc) over and over again really helped me pick up the language faster.

I created this a while back, haven't updated it in a while though:
http://pastebin.com/Y3eLSAqV

It should still prove useful if you're looking for learning resources.

I never used romaji when learning - my first step in learning Japanese was committing the hiragana/katakana to memory. Shouldn't take very long to do so.

Yeah, I can watch anime without subtitles. Sometimes I need a dictionary with me when I read VNs / light novels though.

For anyone who wants to learn: pretend romanji doesn't even exist. Your life will be easier later on if you learn hiragana and katakana right away, if you don't you'll end up like the retards in my class who expect to get by without any knowledge of katakana, hiragana, or kanji

俺の大学専攻は言語学、日本語が俺のメージャのため勉強した言語。時々ぺ
らぺらというけど本当にまあまあ。

／jp／でもっと日本語スレが欲しい。

I can't. :/ I tried learning and still dabble in it.

I plan on learning it one day to go to japan and attend the fashion shows there. Not clothing fashion, but the hair and nail industry. Especially the nail industry. *drool* Nail art is practically unheard of here so there's no where to learn it.

And to go shopping and rack up on gothic clothing and go to the goth clubs... because they surprisingly have a pretty big scene there.

>>8086532
you should move onto kanji as soon as possible. if you learned roumaji, you probably noticed it was a lot easier to remember vocab if you learned it in hiragana. well it's like yet another step up when you move onto kanji.

study the radicals you find in the kanji. they'll give you a better idea of what you're writing. you'll notice things like words that have something to do with water have a water radical in them. stroke order is also important. it is possible to ignore stroke order but it will definitely help. it follows the same basic pattern in all kanji and it helps you with your muscle memory. the more kanji you know, the easier kanji learning becomes.

don't just learn individual kanji and their readings. you should be learning vocabulary as kanji. note that not all words are written in kanji. some words do use kanji but are more commonly written in hiragana.

you must learn how to read and write kanji!

the most useful thing to learn kanji imo

How do I run Japan games on my computer?
Does applocale is a must or is there an easier, less intrusive way? (Win7 user)

>>8086591
What's wrong with applocale?

Currently learning it in college. Mostly cause I was
curious to see what is was like. If you are learning it
then I recommend you use romaji as little as
possible. In fact, you really shouldn't use it at all.

>>8086591
if you play enough japanese games you might as well change your system locale

I can't speak it, but I can read it and write it just fine. Though, I am not good with speaking in general...

The reason is because I'm a weeaboo who had lots of free time a few years ago.

It would be a really easy language if it weren't for all the damn kanji. Although that would make some sentences hard to understand...

>>8086545
I just started learning Hiragana yesterday, so far I know and can write 15 characters, vowels + k + s. How important is Katakana. I thought after Hiragana I would be done memorizing and move on to the Rosetta Stone course.

What the fuck is with all these really bad outsider shitposts? Why ar you people even replying?
Why has /jp/ gotten so horrible?

>>8086610
>Rosetta Stone
0/10
>>8086612
Japanese threads are a /jp/ tradition.

>>8086612
Bumping a thread full of shitposts will somehow alleviate the issue, right?

>>8086612
>outsider shitposts
Like yours?

Because it's my first language.
>>8086612
Were you in a time capsule for the last few years or something? If so, may I join you?

>>8086610
It doesn't pop up as often as hiragana but it is still part of the language and shows up. You should still learn it but don't spend too much time on it.

>>8086619
Is there something wrong with Rosetta Stone?

>>8086631
It doesn't teach you anything.
Bose/Skullcandy of the language learning world.

>>8086626
>don't spend too much time on it

Take whatever time it takes to learn it. Once you have hiragana down, katakana is like a walk in the park.

I've picked up a bit from exposure to it and since I've always wanted to speak another language I taught myself kana and started remembering the things I heard and saw in efforts to teach myself. After a while I took a class to see how well I taught myself, and everything turned out much better than expected. Too good, actually. People came to me for help, my teacher praised me and always paired me up with the same person who was lazy and didn't even know the kana by the end of the class (in hopes that I'd help him somehow). That was the first class I had taken since I had dropped out in 2006 and I felt so out of place I told myself I'd continue studying at home. That was a year ago and I haven't even opened the book once. I know about 175-200 kanji and can form and read simple sentences.

It's not much, but atleast it's something.

>>8086610
Katakana is still important, take the time to learn it by heart early on so you don't run into problems later (e.g. reading speed)

I can't vouch for Rosetta Stone, especially when it comes to learning Japanese. You'd be a lot better off immersing yourself in real Japanese media (podcasts, radio dramas, TV shows, books, etc.) and picking up bits and pieces of the language that way.

it's kinda funny because i remember making a post about starting to read nip about a year ago, and how reading one page of welcome to the NHK took me almost 30 minutes to decipher

fast forward a year later i've played through amagami, been navigating through japanese web sites, been buying mango from bookoff - and things are getting easier.

having knowledge of chink runes helped A LOT in learning nip. that and having jisho.org constantly open also helps you. I still can't quite stray away from works without the furigana, but I have to say, it's fun, /jp/, you just need a manga or game that you'll be able to personally devote time into reading/deciphering

oh and reading a lot of porn helped too - can't say so much in the way of grammar. i totally would have taken classes at university, but i'm in vancouver, where the asian populace is 99% and saturated with faggots like me that all want to take nip

>>8086695
How helpful was the racism in the learning process?

I'm learning Mandarin here, going onto Chinese II next semester.

I plan on learning fully Mandarin Chinese up to the IV course then maybe take Japanese. Would I be at an advantage having learned a language that shares similar characters? I mean, I can't imagine it would help me THAT much, but it shouldn't hurt?

>>8086716
?? taiwanese canadian != nationalist chinese?

>>8086721
At the very least, writing kanji should be cinch for you by the time you're finished with Mandarin IV, which is a pretty big advantage

>>8086728

And I actually find that to be the funnest/easiest part. I'm good at making associations between radicals and certain hanzi and memorizing words/phrases, atleast written (speaking is a bit harder for me than it is to read and write)

Such as in Chinese, 学 means student. I see this in Japanese here and there, so I look it up and it means "studies" or "research" from what I can gather.

>>8086754
You're on the right track. It's part of the word for student, 学生.

I just started using this to learn, I like it, but it mostly focuses on conversation. Any one got any recommendations for learning to read?
As to why I'm learning, I like japanese music, and I'd like to understand the lyrics, and of course the usual anime, manga and games

>>8086721
Mandarin characters are reduced to simple spelling to boost the Chinese literacy rate.
i.e. to fly 飛=>飞,teeth 歯=>齿,width 広=>广
You will have to memory two Kanji for one word.

>>8086566
Honestly you're Japanese sounds very unnatural >.<
>Saw this on the front page. first time in /jp/ or 4chan for that matter.
>Also Japanese :)
Sorry for bad english

>>8086922
> >.<
Stop that.

>>8086960
Huh?

>>8086922
Whole thread reported. Better luck next time, though.

>>8086981
Honestly i do not understand. I cant post here?

>>8086968
Emoticons aren't tolerated here. Please lurk plenty before posting, or ROM if that makes you understand any better.

I grew up overseas and learned to speak the languages in the places I loved. Japan was one of them.

>>8086981
Reported for illegal content.

Racism is illegal in my country.

>>8086998
I'm also Japanese, though, so racism doesn't apply in this case.

>>8086991
You need to understand the culture and habits of the board thoroughly or your posting makes it obvious how new you are and you'll be called out for it.

>>8087009
I have reported you already, you should leave before you get banned.

>>8087006
get out nip only corean here

Ok i didnt know that. Like i said I havent been here before..... At least now i know. Anyhting else i should know? What is lurking btw?

>>8087024
0/10

This is probably the same guy from earlier complaining about how /jp/ has gone to shit or whatever.

>>8087024
ROM

>>8087009
>You need to understand the culture and habits of the board
ahahah
I'm going to spam 50 reaction images in honor of that marvelous display of faggotry.

I don't like to wait for translations, especially when most of the games that I want to play are never even translated.

That's the only reason I bothered to learn this shit.

I want to, but I don't have enough motivation to learn it.

>>8086695
>oh and reading a lot of porn helped too

I've only just learned the kana and I've been doing a bit of this. Reading out all those ああああs in a monotone while fapping has been enriching, to say the least.

eroge everyday

>>8087080
You'll never see lewd pictures of メアリーさん ;_;

>>8087154
Been done. Where were you for that?

>>8087165
I don't know, probably playing some shitty MMO or VN. But the fact I missed that thread will haunt and torment every atom of my being for as long as I live.

>>8087080
lol, mearii saaan.
I took a year of college Japanese wit Genki when I was a high school. I aced both semesters, but in retrospect you don't learn shit. Finally started learning forreal back in March briefly, and then nonstop since June. Hundreds of vocab words, 1500+ and counting kanji, kana (already knew from college), and quite a bit of grammar. I can get the gist of most of what I hear and read now, but often miss off on important nuances at anything above a children's level of reading, due to my weakest point being grammar.

>>8087183
Since you keep count, what is considered 'knowing' kanji? Reading it once? Can you read all 1500 out of context? Could you write all 1500?

>>8087182
It'll come up again, it used to come up any time the Genki books got mentioned.

>>8086847
dude it's ok if you an read traditional you can figure out almost every character in simplifed, and besides you'll get used to the system of what each radical and part of the character looks like in simplified
and quite a few words look the same in simplified
also, if you're not learning both I assume that you are doing it wrong

I'm a half, so I have to deal with relatives that don't good english, if you know what I mean. My family also lives like 5 blocks from SF Japantown (read: holy fuck how many koreans, chinese, weaboos and tourists can you have in one place) so I used to go get weekly stuff from Shounen Sunday since it was cheap and easy to read. Now you go though and holy fuck a copy of Hayate no Gotoku that was 440 yen is now priced at $8 when it used to be like $5-6.

I learned it for the eroge. It was totally worth it.