/jp/ - Otaku Culture

we didnt pay the denbs and got kicked out of EU

>>8065643

>>8065643
Good night sweet Greece.

>>8065640
Hurray for living in America. USA #1.

>>8065651
>>8065649
>>8065647

>>8065651
>>8065653

an underage cartoon vagina is penetrated every 0.1 seconds. please think of the cartoon children

>>8065658

Damn, Europe, and I thought our E-PARASITE was bad.

>>8065666
nice trips
if i get doubles we all get laid next year

>>8065669

>>8065666

How do we contact the EU government on certain people viewing CP?(Legit CP)

the face of anti-loli

>>8065672
>>8065671
oh well maybe next time :D

eh, what if your'e underage yourself

>>8065673
The police ?

>2011
>not moving to Russia

>>8065672
>>8065677

>>8065673
Call 112

So wait, even though in Spain it's legal to fuck a 13 year old if you happen to see a picture of it you'll go to prison? Or if you happen to ask her by email beforehand you still go to jail?

How ... utterly stupid.

>>8065640
Well... Do they count guro without any sexual stuff?

>>8065679
>>8065685
But I'm in America though, is there any other way I could contact them anonymously?

>>8065686
Well if you go ahead and do it they can't do shit, but with images they can arrest you for an attempt to do it?

>>8065681
>>8065684

>>8065694

This won't actually change anything though. It's also illegal to blow balloons if you're under 8 years old and yet no one cares.

We all know who is responsible for this.

>>8065696

This is fucking retarded, they are going into your fucking personal space and are also using thought crimes, thank god I live in USA

Doesn't change much for England though.

Drawn depictions of child porn was banned here a long time ago. Fuck all has happened though.

Now Greece, they're the real thing that will fuck over Europe. They plan referendum-ing our bailout package for them.

Does this apply to Poland?
Is shota considered illegal now?

>>8065700

What about fucking.shota and traps? Femanazis are fucking retarded.

>>8065686
Not just a picture of them having sex, but a picture of them in a bikini would do it, according to the site. Or even a picture of them in a short skirt and a tight top. They'd probably even get you for any picture of a 13 year old not wearing a burka.

Has anyone got links to any other sites talking about this leglislation, or whatever official EU site this is from? If this really is true, then it's time to use Tor and disc encryption for everything. Details on the implementation schedule would be nice.

ENJOY YOUR POLICE STATE..
wait
>EU

ENJOY YOUR POLICE CONTINENT

basically you let the nazis win in the end anyway

>>8065700
New friend circle member or just changed your trip?

Why do you keep posting this nonsense? And why do you tools keep believing that shit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coroners_and_Justice_Act_2009

2009, it feels like only yesterday when that passed. Plenty of "Illegal in England" pictures were posted for a while.

Also remember that some law got passed in Tokyo banning the same thing? Fuck all has happened there as well.

Stop acting like americans. It's just a directive, and nobody knows its exact contents.

>>8065643
ΑΡΝΙΕΜΑΙ ΑΡΝΙΕΜΑΙ ΑΡΝΙΕΜΑΙ

>>8065708
Get a load of that guy, a slav and a faggot pedophile on top of that.

Wait, they are actually searching your internet for this? Oh wow, have fun living like in China now.

>>8065724

Don't those things go hand in hand?

>>8065728
Have fun living in america, believing every lie the jews feed you and knowing nothing about how the rest of the world works.

As much as I dislike feminism, I don't think I'd trust anything posted on a website called "theantifeminist.com"

I am so fucking ashamed of living in EU now.

>>8065732
Yeah have fun being controled and wacthed your whole life.

>>8065719
Hmm, all that happened in Tokyo was manga and anime with fanservice and shit needs to be rated 18+ for some ungodly reason and VNs can't have loli, incest, or rape or they lose approval by some VN coalition which has no legal jurisdiction whatsoever so it can safely be ignored.

So it didn't stop games like Machigurumi no Wana or White ~Blanche comme le Lune from being made so you're right about that but there was no legal reason they couldn't make them anyway.

Still, haven't seen blatant mother/son brother/sister incest from Swan anymore which is bullshit but what can you do?

Not a single fuck, etc.
Seriously guys, who the fuck cares? It's just another pointless law.

This will just get selectively enforced or used to extend sentences on actual CP possessors.
Still is terrible law.

>>8065741
Come and live in the us, land of the free.

>>8065688
Probably not.

Do you have a source for these claims aside from this questionable blog? I'm concerned, but I cant find these details anywhere besides this blog.

>The definition of child porn will include any cartoon or virtual image of a person appearing to be under 18 and which is in a sexual context

I GUESS OUR TELEVISON STATIONS HERE IN CZECH ARE FUCKED WITH HALF THEIR REPERTOIR LOLOLOLOLO

This is the same shit as our "bigger than small amount of weed". It won't actually fuck anyone over, because nobody will know what to make of it.

It would be fun if we got kicked out of EU for this or something else, and suddenly, we become an economically booming country.

>>8065743
So is mother/son,etc aloud in hentai still or not?

>>8065758

I think we have arrived at the step where the EU needs to be declared a failed experiment. It was a nice try, but it just doesn't fucking work anymore, if it ever really did.

>>8065704
Word. They've passed what is essentially this law in England already, hasn't made a difference.

The site is fake. Shut up and go home, retards.

>>8065763
Pretty much. The Eurooptimism, it's in the drain.

The only thing that happened is that the corruption accelerated because more money is in the game.

I don't live in EU but here's what is going to happen. Nothing, absolutely nothing. Until you do actually fuck up something, they aren't going to actively search for shit. Don't go around parading the fact that you have a 3tb hard drive full of loli and nothing will happen. Though if you get caught doing an actual crime they'll throw that one year on too, so don't commit crimes.

GoGOGOGOGOGOG Greece.
Break the EU apart.
Our I will need to emigrate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU&ob=av3e

commencing loli dump

>implying we haven't been fucked since Britain opened the market in exchange for America's help

Sorry Saten, it's not your fault but we can't be together anymore.

;__;

That feel when the only Mimi-based doujin you can find is that one with her having a dick and you have only ever found one Kuro based doujin.

>>8065835
You're not looking. At all.

>>8065835
Many faps were had

I'd rather go to prison than stop watching Shota. It's the only thing that I like sexually.

>>8065846
>lolis with dicks
My favourite sort of loli.

This looks like bullshit, show some actual proof. OP link doesn't work.

I'm not living in the EU but goddamn.

mfw when I've seen OP's dick

>>8065874
..Was it big? did it look tasty?

>>8065860
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&reference=P7-TA-2011-0468&format=XML&a
mp;language=EN

Remove "amp;"

>>8065879
why don't you see for yourself? ;)

>>8065860
Link works for me but I'm not sure if "theantifeminist.com" is the most unbiased, reliable site (same would go for thefeminist.com).

Post the rest of the doujin already. I'm waiting.

The US government chart below proves the majority of physical, emotional and sexual abusers of children are biological mothers. I’m not holding my breath in anticipation of the proactive laws which will be passed in order to target the perpetrators (single mothers) and to protect these vulnerable children as opposed to their busty 16 year old counterparts.

chart: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm08/images/fig3-6.jpg

A 21 year old man is gaming an attractive 16 year old at the mall, you say? Arrest the sicko, it’s “for the children”! Meanwhile, behind closed doors, single mothers everywhere are…

It’s a sick world we live in, and it’s only going to get sicker, because the majority of men cannot and do not have the capacity to unite under a common banner and demand their rights like women do. Even as feminists run ramshod over our civil liberties, men are too busy throwing each under the bus to seek the approval of bitter, aging, and loose pussy that’s been passed around the block.

>>8065891
I bet most /jp/er's dream of being molested by their mother.

>>8065883

"Furthermore, the concept of child pornography also covers realistic images of a child, where a child is engaged or depicted as being engaged in sexually explicit conduct for primarily sexual purposes."

Manga art is far from realistic, so doesn't that make it okay?

>>8065897

What's "realistic" is completely subjective and could for a prosecutor needing a case mean simply being drawn well.

And no matter what, acting like drawn kids should have the same rights as real kids is not okay. It's utterly brain damaged, especially since it's only regards to sex and not all crime (funny how none of these lawfags actually care about violence, just sex).

>>8065897
I don't think the jury will agree on that after they see your collection of hardcore bestiality lolicon ass-to-mouth penetration.

>>8065901
>funny how none of these lawfags actually care about violence, just sex

That's because the purpose of these kinds of laws has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with protecting the adults from seeing something that offends their sensibilities.

>>8065897
I should think so. Anyway, as I understand it, only retards get caught for this shit, by seeking interaction with an actual child, paying for CP with their credit card, or posting CP on /b/, or whatnot. Eurofags shouldn't have anything to worry about as long as they don't try, say, to host a loli imageboard if such a thing is illegal in their country (as it is in the UK, in France, etc).

>>8065910
>I should think so. Anyway, as I understand it, only retards get caught for this shit, by seeking interaction with an actual child, paying for CP with their credit card, or posting CP on /b/, or whatnot.

The same people behind this directive call for monitoring of all internet activity.

reminds me of that thread

>>8065913
Some do, but not all. The EU is actually pretty good privacy-wise.

>>8065759
Well, yes and no. There's some coalition of VN sellers sort of like the comics code authority from the 1960s that tries to tell VN companies what they can put in their games. Problem is they control what gets put on the shelves in stores or so I hear. But they're not the law.

So there's no reason a company can't make loli eroge like Sakuranbo Shougakkou which reminds you often that the girl you're fucking is 10

And there's no reason a company can't have mother/son incest like Inraku no Ketsuzoku ~Kindan no Jubaku~ where not only do you fuck your mother, your aunt, and your two sisters you can get them pregnant too. There's even an ending where you MARRY YOUR BLOOD RELATED MOTHER.

That silly coalition of VN makers just won't give you some approval sticker or something but that's the worst of it.

For some reason though ever since that shit rule was agreed on Swan decided to ditch their incest games. Fucking Swan.

>>8065926
have you heard about ACTA?

Did anyone even get arrested for lolicon alone in the UK?

>>8065937

No, the UK might look like a retarded shithole to most outsiders, but they would NEVER convict people for possessing lolicon/shotacon.

>>8065933
Yes.
>May or may not have been negotiated by the EU — we don't actually know who negotiated it
>Issues raised by the opposition seem somewhat unclear and overhyped, and not to follow from the text of ACTA itself

>>8065937
It's almost as if they just passed the law to keep mouths quiet, but they won't bother actually trying to catch people.

You hear about pedophile rings every so often, but they're molesting real kids, so yeah.

why there's only one fucking link to this law, show something else than the link from theantifeminist.com

>>8065969
See:
>>8065883

>>8065969
This.
I know /jp/ is intelligent enough to know that you should always demand proper sources and citations (And read them, obviously) before getting upset.

>>8065975
>school drop out NEETs
>intelligent
Oh come one.

Time for revolution !

>>8065979
Oh come on yourself. I don't ever think I've ever met a dropout who bailed because school subjects were too hard.

I hope all you degenerate otaku fucks rot in prison.

This is great news!

>>8066005
Jokes on you, you are going with us because you were in this thread

>For the purposes of this Directive, the following definitions apply: ...
>(c) ‘child pornography’ means:
>(i) any material that visually depicts a child engaged in real or simulated sexually explicit conduct;
>(ii) any depiction of the sexual organs of a child for primarily sexual purposes;
>(iii) any material that visually depicts any person appearing to be a child engaged in real or simulated sexually explicit conduct or any depiction of the sexual organs of any person appearing to be a child, for primarily sexual purposes; or
>(iv) realistic images of a child engaged in sexually explicit conduct or realistic images of the sexual organs of a child, for primarily sexual purposes;

These are blasphemy laws, with children as the deity.
You can't reason with people who support them--they're the same as Muslims outraged at drawings of Mohamed.

>>8066026
But these active anti-pedophiles or whatever you want to call them don't all sit in one country with tulbans and stone people to death for getting raped.

>>8066058
Neither do Muslims. Haven't you heard about the newspaper office being petrol bombed today in France?
>>8065952
>>8065967
I haven't heard any stories of people being arrested for it, but bear in mind that Britain has laws allowing people to be tried in secret without juries for "national security" reasons now.

Do you idiots seriously not know the difference between a directive and a law

>>8065758
>It would be fun if we got kicked out of EU for this or something else, and suddenly, we become an economically booming country.
Like the netherlands, only with loli instead of weed.

Hey, faggots. You do realize that the EU cannot dictate such laws?

>>8066070
>France
What one country did you think he was talking about?

Does that mean I can't fap to my lolis anymore, as long as I live in Germany?

The fuck is this blasphemy. I hope I can move out and look for shelter elsewhere. Instead of caring about financial crisises, they keep on taking anon their rights - this sucks so much.

>>8066202
Of course you can. You just can't show it to others anymore. You know, like you used to call the neighbors to look at you while you're masturbating to loli, just to offend them? Now you just have to fap in silence like the rest of us.

>>8065982
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po09lcDxXIA

Lets do this

I'm game

>>8066206
I don't think that would change anything, if they'd really search for your secret loli collection they would find it.
Just recently there has been a scandal about a trojan made and spread by the state.
They are probally watching me write this very sentence

That means that they would have to improsion, dunno...10 million people ?

>>8066223
>>8066223
fuck, i meant imprison*

>>8066223
Read it carefully. As always, there is no obligation for a EU state to implement it completely, most of the points being optional.

Jesus. My heart goes out to you, Eurobros, but nothing can stop the global initiative for the defense of imaginary jailbait.

It's way easier to defend them than, ya know, actual children in sweat shops or the seedy underground sex industry.

>>8066216
Hey i like this kind of music, i want more !

>>8066230
I think in most countries it won't become illegal.

>>8066230
Even if there is no obligation, laws against cp are basically free appreciation for governements so I can't see many countries not adopting this.

>>8066256
They aren't braindead.

If eurofags were truly concerned about their morality, their would target the ever growing slave/sexual tourism industry.

But noooooo. We must worry about drawings and not actual persons. Idiots.

>>8066264
But drawings are only a small part of it.

I know some sickfuck who actually owns CP, how the fuck do I report them?

>>8066297
Your dad fucked you in the ass and took pictures again?

>>8066297
Who are you to judge them, Anon-san?

What about people like me who carpet bomb download doujins and simply delete the blatantly loli ones (not even puberty age) when they come across them?

>>8065640
>unenforceable
>not in spirit of preserving peace, just another appease the masses bill
>last sentence only applies to real pedos

>>8066297
You tell that sick bastard to send all his pictures to this e-mail; double11@hotmail.com

>>8066307
Why would you delete the best ones?

I'd like to see them stop me from getting my lolicon! >:(

legalize it

I'd like to make an announcement.

KILLING PEOPLE IS WORSE THAN RAPING A KID.
Period.

Ban games like GTA. Ban movies with gratuitous violence. Oh, so you say they don't make us want to pick up a gun and go kill actual people ? So why are you saying these Chinese cartoons will make me go rape 3DPD children ?

>>8065640
So what, it's like that here in Canada too but you know what? No one gives a fuck, not even the police. Even though the law doesn't dictate that it has to be a real kid and shit the law really only cares once the person either does have real CP or if they have loli and show it off (ie have it as your background on a laptop that you are using everywhere).

So... am I the only one who's totally disgusted and getting suicidal? Seriously. What comes next? Going to jail for posting gore images? For insulting someone over internet? For not being a COMPLETE FUCKING CATTLE?

>>8066297
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself.

It's pretty high and mighty to be wanting to report people for thought crime when you visit /jp/.

>>8066320
I just don't find them attractive. They look like little transvestite boys at that age, and I'm not a faggot.

I can already imagine normal people like you and me being depicted as sick child molesters by society because they had some drawn loli on their PC. Seriously, going to prison for possessing (or only viewing) drawn underage porn images is a bad joke.
I just hope that they won't go this far. Prisons are bursting nowadays because they're so full; they don't have space for these kind of people who didn't even commit a crime.

I don't get it. I can't find the articles on the directive that says what OP is quoting.

It only pretty much says that child molesters should have a EU-wide minimum sentence, ability to block out child porn related websites, criminalizes online predators, and bans these criminals from work involving children.

It says nothing about possession, distribution nor drawn loli.

Seven proxies etc.

>>8066326
Don't worry bro, it's just a troll. No such directive exists.

Are you allowed to browse the internet in jail (watch anime)? Then I wouldn't mind. I heard they even give you vegan food if you want to (Germany).

>>8065756
http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/2011/october/meps-back-eu-wide-rules-on-child-abuse-/72476.aspx you fucking moron

Come on Denmark, we're the only country in Scandinavia where child porn is legal when animated, don't let EU take it away.

>>8066346
>Bro
I've seen people use this word a lot recently. I don't like it.

>>8066349
Okay fuck Sweden I'm going to Denmark

Its not like this matters, people will just use freenet or TOR to download their CP instead. Which is what real pedos do anyway, so it increases lolicons chances of coming across CP and discovering their true power.

>>8066326
>What comes next? Going to jail for insulting someone over internet?
http://www.eutimes.net/2011/10/new-york-democrats-argue-free-speech-is-a-privilege-that-can-be-revok
ed/
>“abusive” speech that they feel should be banned includes:
>1. Leaving hurtful messages online:
>“LEAVING IMPROPER MESSAGES ON ONLINE MESSAGE BOARDS OR SENDING HURTFUL AND DAMAGING MESSAGES TO OTHERS;”
>2. Flaming people online:
“”FLAMING” (HURTFUL, CRUEL, AND OFTENTIMES INTIMIDATING MESSAGES INTENDED TO INFLAME, INSIGHT, OR ENRAGE);”
>3. “Happy slapping” (a 2005 meme that the befuddled Senators appear to mistake for a current problem):
>“”HAPPY SLAPPING” (RECORDING PHYSICAL ASSAULTS ON MOBILE PHONES OR DIGITAL CAMERAS, THEN DISTRIBUTING THEM TO OTHERS);”
>4. Trolling online:
>“”TROLLING” (DELIBERATELY AND DECEITFULLY POSTING INFORMATION TO ENTICE GENUINELY HELPFUL PEOPLE TO RESPOND (OFTEN EMOTIONALLY), OFTEN DONE TO PROVOKE OTHERS);”
>5. Exclusion of people:
>“EXCLUSION (INTENTIONALLY AND CRUELLY EXCLUDING SOMEONE FROM AN ONLINE GROUP).”

Wait, what if I disable caching and only view shit online? Could that get me sent to jail or what?

>>8066349
Wasn't it completely legal there not long ago? Was that Denmark?

>>8066348
But there is nothing written about drawings.

This thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA

>>8066362
>“EXCLUSION (INTENTIONALLY AND CRUELLY EXCLUDING SOMEONE FROM AN ONLINE GROUP).”
I will report 2ch to the US government.

>>8066335
>I can already imagine normal people like you and me being depicted as sick child molesters by society because they had some drawn loli on their PC.
>normal people
Normal people? On /jp/? Surely you jest?

>>8066367
I think that's bestiality you think about, and as far as I know it's still quite legal here as disturbing as it is.

>>8066376
"Get out of /jp/" images will be outlawed. Possession of them will be punishable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0K1v_74lhE&feature=related

>>8066387
Man, I'm always equally confused by this clip.

>>8066383
It's perfectly legal to produce it in Germany as well.

>>8066392
>thirdteen in september!

mmm...

So I have been able to find nothing about drawn lolis regarding this directive. I'll just disregard it.

But I assume that there are places that have already banned drawn lolis.

What you guys do not realize is that such laws are basically about THOUGHTCRIME and setting a precedent for such laws in the future. No actual crime has been committed. And you'll start to wonder how George Orwell was right after all. Some of them are even proposing installing a blackbox and monitor your internet activities for CP. Yes, even those who have nothing to do with CP. Do you NOT SEE that while you're perhaps laughing at these jerks, you are losing your own liberty for REAL ?

>>8066401
>Do you NOT SEE that while you're perhaps laughing at these jerks, you are losing your own liberty for REAL ?
I'm too busy posting on /jp/ to do anything.

>>8066401

It can't be helped.

Thank god I was able to figure out the trollness, I was just about to have a panic attack.

>>8066380
Oh, right. I might have used the wrong term.
What I meant was people that don't have anything to do with child porn or anything that hurts children.
I think /jp/ sure matches these criteria.

>>8066401
I've been telling people that this was going to happen for years, that the internet will become sterile and barren by 2012, since about 06/07. Yet nobody listened, they just laughed. And now it's all coming true, and there's nothing that can be done any more. The proles aren't capable of understanding what is happening, so long as they have their facebook they're happy.

10 years in the future after lolicon is outlawed.

>>8066417
Yeah, and you sure are doing loads to stop the "Internet Armageddon".

The main problem I have with this is the fact that they are trying to ban an artistic expression (that is drawn or CG lolicon or whatever) because most people dislike it. How the fuck has it come to this? This whole pedo obsession the entirety of society has gone way too far, the truth is sexual offenders and ESPECIALLY those who commit crimes against children are a ridiculously tiny fraction of the population. And most of the tiny fraction are actually "normal" working people.

>>8066417
I've always known that one day we'd look back on the beginning of the internet like it was the wild west or some shit, before business and government "civilized' it.

>>8066362
Looks like some people got a little butthurt after being trolled.

>>8066418
What a sad, bleak future we face.

>>8066387
What movie is this from and when was it made?

Jokes on you OP it's already illegal in Sweden.

>>8066437
What the fuck is Mio doing there? Goddamnit Miura.

>>8066348
but it mentions no lolicon...

>>8066448
I thought you could do a 15 years old in Sweden, when did they change it?

>>8066465
You still can. Lolicon and such is banned though as far as I know.

I can't find the legislation on http://eur-lex.europa.eu/..
Any second independent source?

>>8066465
>>8066471
That isn't even logical within a distorted world view.

>>8066465
It's some old law from the 80's, haven't heard any case where it's been enforced tho. It's still legal to plow 15+ year olds.

>>8066465
You can. You just can't look at pictures of her. Or drawings. Also if her mother doesn't like you then you risk being prosecuted for rape by one of our friendly feminist prosecutors anyway.

EU will probably break apart soon anyway, as will the money system.
I think lolicon will be the least of our problems in the future.

>>8066491
Yeah everything's going to come apart in the next 10-20 years. I advise to stock up on loli and get a sturdy laptop and a hand generator so you can keep on fapping even after society collapses.

We already did this thread over on /a/, conclusion was it was fake /new/s anyway, and that you shouldn't care what nonsense laws they pass or decree overseas, because you don't have to live there with them. Thank fuck.

>>8066503
>Society collapses
AND THEN /jp/'S TIME ARRIVES!

>>8066559
Is everyone on /a/ American or what?

>>8066570
That would explain a lot

Wrong. As society collapses, decadence becomes prevalent. Once people grow fed up with decadence (yes, it actually happens), religion, in whatever flavor you like comes in and saves the fucking day. Again.

Prepare for Christianity MkII.

>>8066559
>We already did this thread over on /a/

Now stay there. Otaku Culture.

>>8066570
No, there were a few snooty little euros in that thread (or else people from india pretending to be euros or something, I guess they do that.)

Anyway, if you're european and this story seemed likely to you, your shit is your own damn fault so hey. Congrats, guys, you still suck. Pic related.

I don't understand why society would collapse now, and not during the many earlier chances for it to happen.

It's sort of arrogant to think our problems are more severe, and more valid.

>>8066604
I just remembered the age of consent in Spain is 13, that makes me wonder why it is not a pedo paradise

>>8066585

>saves the fucking day

I'd rather see it go away completely, but sadly people still like imaginary feel-good crutches.

>>8066604
Why are /a/ posters so terrible?

>>8066624
It binds people though.
Without religion we wouldn't exist.
Not like I care anyway.

>>8066640
>Without war we wouldn't exist
FTFY

>>8066624
>>8066640
People become disgusted by debauchery and whatever else they don't like. Religion is, more than law, a reason to behave. Call it whatever you like, but without it a good bunch of people would not share your pity, remorse or even some basic honor.

Ah, now I don't feel as bad living in Australia. The European continent is more of a police state now.

>>8066640
>>8066647
I sort of see Astronomy as root of reason and civilization, myself.

>>8066491
Can't wait for that to happen. The few benefits the EU has for my country (Germany) are way too insignificant compared to the billions of Euro we have to pay to countries like Greece (who, as thanks, dish out them Nazi insults in return).
Also, our own, elected politicians are already fucked up enough, ignoring the constitution left and right, so that we don't need some EU shitheads (looking at you, Cecilia Malmström) who haven't even been elected by the people deciding on some pointless laws.

>>8066657
Did you mean spiritualism? Because that gave rise to religion, which game rise to philosophy, which game rise to laws, which gave rise to science.

>>8066647
War is pure competition
So it should be without capitalism we wouldn't exist.

>>8065643
>Greece
kontrackt?

>>8066649

That's what scares me more than anything else about hardcore religious people... If they're only behaving themselves out of fear of being judged, they're truly scary people, especially when you consider that the book they so fervently believe is written by ignorant, fallible men...not Gods.
For most people who haven't had their brains polluted by religion, altruistic behavior comes naturally.

>>8066672
To some extent I suppose so. They're all interconnected, aren't they? I just suspect that Man's early attempts at understanding the heavens (No matter how sucky their attempts were) formed all sorts of human phenomena that made order, logic, and all that stuff.

>>8066652
>continent
More like a small inordinately self-important region, just sayin'

>>8066672
>derp

so glad I don't have to live there

europe is a miasma of skullfucking

chinese cartoons characters have rights too

If you want to read the original text, google for this: "P7_TC1-COD(2010)0064"

It's a mess, but at least Germany should be fine. The directive reads like they had made sure that it complies with existing German law. I refer you to article 5, (7) and (8) for why.
Still, this is a typical example of oppressive legislation, that only can go through, since "no one can advocate child pornography". Well no shit, but your definition of the term to extend to purely fictional characters is pants on head retarded.

>>8066668
Hi kraut, greek pig here, you're a fucking idiot. The Nazi insults are not directed towards the Germans, they're directed towards our own government.

>>8066698
Shut up and go join the general strike.

And meanwhile here in Neaples we have just now discovered some rom kids were being prostituted for about 5 euro in a cinema, near the fucking central station and must've gone on for years.
I fail to see how this witch hunt for lolicons and closet pedos protect any children.
Let's torch also rape and bondage fans as well, they might be real rapists !

>>8066686
>altruistic behavior comes naturally.
No it doesn't.
The only people a person really cares about are people close to him, friends and family.
Altruism isn't something that happens maturely, it's seen almost nowhere in nature.

>>8066719
The German law is rather in a grey-zone. It's not clear at all what's legal and what not.

>>8066728
moot & time magazine overestimate their own influence.

95% if the people on 4chan might be /b/tards, that doesn't mean that 95% of everybody is a member of their local v-mask-wearing leejun chapter.

>>8066771
In regard to fictional porn:
-13: illegal
14-: legal (to own)

If you have a friend in Japan, and he (with no compensation) sends you porn featuring fictional characters of age 14-18, that's completely legal.
-13 is illegal, but apparently the Zoll (customs) doesn't give a fuck about loli.

>>8066778
>durp de derp hurpity durr

I'd say I can't begin to describe what is wrong with your post, but I digress; if you want to assume everything that's happening right now is part of a LULZ GUY FAWKES IS LEEJUN XD movement, you're pretty sad and you have my pity.

>>8066740
>rom kids
Who cares about them anyway ?

>>8066744
>Altruism isn't something that happens maturely, it's seen almost nowhere in nature.

But that's wrong.

The statement is factually false, I mean.

>>8066785
Below 14 is sort of legal too. Because it's not "close to reality". But it's still illegal to provide or purchase such material.

>>8066789
yikes, man, I had like one typo thar

go take a pill

>>8066686
Sorry. No. Feral children, if you have ever witnessed such a horrid thing, do not show altruistic behavior.

Altruism, despite what transhumanists might say, is not natural. It is a doctrine. You teach it to your children, lest they become selfish little monsters.

>>8066802
Calm down, guy, I wasn't talking about any typos. Typos are the least of your worries.

GEE, IS THIS THE CREEPY THREAD??

>>8066740
Moralfags only care about what they can see literally, not what is actually going on.

dude you suck at trolling, just sayin'

There are no cars...in Imboca...

>>8066740
>>8066826
It's not some either/or scenario. They can both root out underage prostitution and stop "Internet pedophiles" at the same time, and that's exactly what they're trying to do. (Even though I don't like getting caught up in it for having 2D loli on HDD.)

>>8066849
I doubt arresting a bunch of virgins who like 2D loli and old men who enjoy talking to children is gonna solve any real problem.
Other than feeding the public the stereotypical shit they want.

>>8066849
They can't both root out underage prostitution and stop "Internet pedophiles" at the same time

fixed

Thats the thing about people, they generally dont stop just because someone made a law about it.

>>8066892
They want to prevent an outbreak of pedophilia.

Which I cant blame them. DFC is highly superior and the only excuse for liking old hags is ignorance.

>a thumbnail of a ‘barely legal 18 year old’ college girl video passes through your browser,
I don't know about over there, but in the U.S. there's a little concept called "mens rea."

"In criminal law, it is viewed as one of the necessary elements of a crime."

And, here's the thing, I thought a few of the euroshits specifically were the ones who first invented this idea. Maybe I'm wrong, but this thread smells like bull to me.

>>8066899
>euroshits
>>>/v/

BANNED!

>>8066918
/jp/ - Insatiable Jerks

Anyway, laws are supposed to make sense, not just be arbitrary impositions you can accidentally run afoul of. Putting aside putdowns I could make about the "old country," I'm under the impression that's pretty much true everywhere there even are laws, with a few exceptions like Saudi Arabia or North Korea.

Great, maybe the unlawfulness will scare a normalfag or two away from the chans. I suppose some people want to roleplay as some kind of a lawful good character IRL, but personally I'll ignore all laws that forbid a victimless act.

>>8066955
>Anyway, laws are supposed to make sense, not just be arbitrary impositions you can accidentally run afoul of.

Hark.

>>8066955
That was fine 50 years ago but not anymore. They hardly ever remove old laws, so we just keep making new laws and stacking them on top. They dont stop making laws, so there is no way to only make laws that only apply to criminals.

>>8066962
Today's lucky item: a big bag of dicks

>>8066955
Yeah, think of crime as a mine field, 50 years ago it was nice and neat, it was fenced off and signs were posted.

Now, theres no room anymore, the fields are busting at the seams, the fence is crumbling and everyone who supported it is in the same danger. Kinda ironic really.

>>8066963
>6
Has that been scanned?

>>8066990
>50 years ago it was nice and neat
No, law has always been a clusterfuck. Dumb laws just weren't enforced back then, and neither are they now.

>>8067018
Granted theres always been dumb laws but they were never at near the quantity as they are now.

Even with a nice and neat mine field, there was always the chance of hitting a stray mine if you got to close. Now is more like the line is begining to be so blurred you cant even walk in your lawn with out risk.