/jp/ - Otaku Culture

It may not be Christmas yet, but who can refuse the lovely black and white combo?

Lossless albums:
Ar tonelico Music Collection Torrent: http://www.bakabt.com/153236-ar-tonelico-music-collection.html
All tracks are encoded in FLAC format and include scans of covers and booklets. Torrent does not include AT3's Drama and Hymmnos Musical discs.

Alternative set of torrents:
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

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Mediafire Folder of Ar tonelico goodies:
http://www.mediafire.com/?rddbnsio6dayi

Contents:
- AT1-3 OST, Hymmnos Concerts
- AT1-2 Drama CDs, Hymmnos Musicals
- Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ (Album)
- AT3 Artbook
- Offline AT2 Flash Cosmospheres
- AT3 Yokkora fan disc

* Original /jp/ content:
-- originspuke.jpg
-- Vectors of Install Points (.png and .svg)
-- Misc. Ar tonelico Vectors
-- No-fun-allowed Raki

>>8054231
Transferring the equipped gear is a nice boost compared to Rorona just transferring the Cole... that'll help bypass some of the hurdles in powering through the areas since gear makes such a big difference in Totori

From the previous thread:

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CADENA ~Atelier Series Jazz Arrange Album Featuring Mami Horie Vol.1~
http://www.sonixgvn.net/2011/06/cadena-atelier-series-jazz-arrange.html
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Also, there's no point in creating a new thread when the old on is still on the front page ... just saying.

Anyhow, to balance out all the little girls, here's some grown men for your viewing pleasure.

>>8054282
hmmm... I'm never a fan for Jazz remixes... They normally end up being rather boring since they try too hard to be 'Jazzy' and end up sounding 'flat'.

>>8054289
This one's actually pretty nice, especially the Pilgrimage and Cadena remixes.

>>8054289
They are nice to listen, though they still have that exagerated feel of a jazz attempt that most japanese jazz remixes have.

For those who need help with Totorin's harder bosses, this is how I did it.

Shadow Bands on everyone, for double turns. Totorin gets triple turns if you used/Duplicate a Dimensional Egg on her.

Since endgame bosses like the OzeanKaiser has too much resistance, I pretty much stop using bombs but have a few with Final Attack+, Effect L around to duplicate with. Get your other characters Skill +X% and have them spam their attacks, while Totori on her turn duplicates regen items, mp items or an Elixir will all of those functions. Don't forget that max hp increasing item.

To make sure others go first and spend their mp/hp, give them items to tweak their speed. Have Totori move last to heal them. In case you have trouble against hard hitting bosses, with Shadow Band you can always attack on the first turn and guard on the second. Defend + guarding Totori while the enemy attacks cuts down a lot of damage. Don't be afraid to use the item itself and not duplicating it if you need it.

Since I have Dragon Scale made armor, I passively regen hp, steal hp from enemy when I attack and regen some due to the effect of the Elixir. You shouldn't die unless you have low max hp or you forgot to Defend.

>>8054387
Reminding me of Mana Khemia... I've been listening to all of the DLC songs you can get and I'm seriously considering swapping the normal battle theme with Verethragha but the intro is a bit long for normal battles...

I wonder if someone from this board works at the Ft. Riley PX. I'm always finding NISA games over there. Just got back from there and saw 3 copies of AT3, I was surprised. Sometimes I wish I had a valid ID card still.

Mimi just joined my party. And now I must choose between Gino and her since Melvia is the only character doing any real damage right now. Gino needs certain Adventurer Levels for his events and 25 for his last one and is on the same level as Totori while Mimi's is lower. He also has much higher LP. But Mimi is in dire need of FL, she has slightly higher HP and ATK and much higher MP. Though nobody except Melvia has learned any skills yet.

Which of those two did you guys keep around when you got Mimi?

>>8055312 here

Also, sweet, I just heard the The Enemy Is Too Strong For You battle theme for the first time and it sounds better than the normal theme, IMO. This time it happened much sooner than in Rorona. The one in Rorona caught me by surprise as I never heard the theme until near the end of my second playthrough.

>>8055312
Mimi needs level 50 for her end, so you should always keep her around (unless you don't want her ending)

>>8055339

Well I'm going in blind first playthrough so I'm not likely to be able to see her ending anyway since I hear she has a lot of missable events.

I guess I can put her in the party anyway once Gino's FL reaches the 60 cap.

>>8055339
But then you miss out on some scenes for Mimi if you always keep her around.

Any tips to get the "Do 9 quests before any are re-issued" achievement?

>>8055660
fill your schedule with infinite duration quests, complete them, but don't turn them in

then, when there are some gather/synth requests that you can complete, turn in everything at once

A few weeks back someone posted some english-translated pages of a Croix x Jacqli hentai doujin. Anyone have more information?

>>8055312
I dropped Gino. Melvia is really helpful to take down the Griffon early and Mimi does learn a useful skill earlier than Gino that will help a lot in minimising how much damage you take.

Fuck year, got my first license upgrade. I'm Iron rank now. Also finally I can synthesize equipment. Maybe now Totori and Gino will start actually hurting enemies now and not die in 2 hits.

Also met Filly for the first time. I like the new mix of Esty's theme.

I heard someone mentioned Esty Dee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8LSKDcsnO4

>>8055758
http://exhentai.org/g/420110/98dbc116d1/
this one?

>>8057462
You're an asshole

goodnight /jp/

>>8057031
A hunter must surpass its prey; a lightning-fast agility's what required to make a man interested in you. Poor Esty, she doesn't even look all that old...

>>8058142
And why exactly?

>>8055758
Just for you
http://www.mediafire.com/?a2ntikc3yiaanoy

>>8058176

>>8058188
Oh dear.

>>8058188
Get lost, gaylord.

>>8058188
Holy fuck its not like its the first result on google or anything.

>>8058188

>>8058188
Clear cache, cookies, the like, and log in again.

New Totori player here again.

Weapon Synthesis no longer tells you what materials are used. Since I have the feeling that two different materials can synthesize the same equipment like in Rorona, which materials should I focus more on crafting/avoid crafting?

Also, Mimi came to my workshop and she was pissed that I haven't used put her in my party and she left Arland saying, "don't bother speaking to me." Did I just lose her?

New Totori player here again.

Weapon Synthesis no longer tells you what materials are used. Since I have the feeling that two different materials can synthesize the same equipment like in Rorona, which materials should I focus more on crafting/avoid crafting?

Also, Mimi came to my workshop and she was pissed that I haven't used put her in my party and she left the village and went to Arland saying, "don't bother speaking to me." Did I just lose her?

This game is killing my nutbladder.

Is it worth buying a PS3 for this game (granted I would be buying other various JRPG's after, not just this one)?

>>8058275
There's FAQs on GameFAQs and it looks like the materials vary by quite a lot, so you can't just focus on crafting one type.

Mimi is tsundere so just go add her into your party. I think you can't really lose friendship by not recruiting people but they may complain to you.

>>8058365
I got this game first in Japanese, found it hard to understand. Borrowed an English copy and I'm having a lot of fun. Now that I have an idea I'll go back and finish Meruru in Japanese (with a little work).

Consider that certain JRPGs need Japanese knowledge to play (like Atelier Totori or Meruru), but others like FF13 not so much. I wouldn't recommend buying a PS3 just for this game, or any game even but PS3 does get plenty of JRPGs and if that's your thing then maybe go for it.

>>8058275
Why bugged me was why aren't you using Mimi in your party? She is made of Index and love.

>>8058428

I need to raise Gino to Level 25 in order to eventually trigger his last event, right? Then again, I'm going blind for my first playthrough (no walkthroughs) so maybe I shouldn't focus too much on his ending yet.

Also, an anon above stated that you may miss some Mimi events if she's always in the party. I don't think the one I just saw was crucial, but I bet some are.

>>8058365
>This game is killing my nutbladder.

>Totori's idle pose
>Totori's victory pose and quote
>Tiffani is actually cuter than she was in the previous game
>Filly Dee being all shy moe
>Mimi's dere moments


This game is NOT good for the heart.

Do the the translated Atelier games have a Jap dub option?

I might buy a PS3 for games like these one day.

>>8058506

Almost every NISA-localized game has dual-audio.

>>8058506
yes

I'm playing Ar Tonelico 2 right now. How much of the story will consist of Luca's drama queen shit? I don't think I can find this tolerable if it continues too much.

>>8058823
Where are you?

>>8058850
Going to Ironplate Desert.

>>8058472
>This game is NOT good for the heart.
Hopefully Meruru will stack up as well in the heart attack department.

>>8058853
Then you need to finish chapter 1.
Just choose Cloche to express things up, it blocks Luca's end, but whatever, because if you don't like her now, you'll just hate her even harder when you arrive to Pastalia.

>>8059011
Then I guess I'll go for Luca end first to get her out of the way, because I feel the need to get every ending.

Why aren't you in AKI Dan yet?

I'm honestly surprised this wasn't posted.

>>8060704

>>8060745

>>8060758

>>8060680
>>8060704
>>8060745
>>8060758
>>8060808
Are you guys having fun yet?

>>8060704
>>8060758
Saved for future posting!

>>8060808

Someone's suffering posterior harm

that visual book looks interesting, might be getting it if I can find it.

>>8061198
I have both, and they're terrific. Huge, lots of pages, ect.

If only Totori was included in the Atelier one...

>>8061205
where did you order yours from?

>>8061205
I'm in the process of uploading the Rorona and Totori art book... it'll appear in the Mediafire share folder when Mediafire bloody responds and lets me upload it... 159 pages of glorious 2430*3480 .png goodness

>>8061215
Art book uploaded. It's in the Artbooks/Atelier folder. Whoever creates the next thread make mention of it in the 2nd post.

Speaking of artbooks, are there any scans of the (recently released) Rorona + Totori + Meruru artbook yet?

Where is my fucking Ar tonelico 1 & 2 HD Remix Collection, Gust?!

>>8061577
I haven't found any scans for it yet.

I'm sorely tempted in importing it for the sole purpose of scanning it, but I would be doing a destructive scan method (debind) and my scanner won't be able to do it justice. It's an office quality scanner so the best it'll do is JPEGs.

>>8061589
That's a shame. I too would import it, if my funds allowed me to and my scanner did the artbook justice.

Time to wait, I guess.

Hey, if Furia Model I antibodies drop Nyo? Guts, does that mean that Nyo?s are antibodies?

>>8061636
You're not wrong, I think this has been mentioned in the Toukousphere before.

>>8061578

They could make me spend a metric shit-ton of money if they ever decided to release remakes of those games using the Meruru engine & (adjusted) style.

What's with Luca? Maybe I'm getting delusional or it's because I already disliked her before, but my bitches and whores instinct is telling me that she's just pretending and using Croix. She didn't even give two shits about Cocona. What's the truth?

>>8062821
Luca is a whore and a slut and has no qualms about betraying people for her own needs. If you're like me and disliked her from the start, you'll only hate her more as the game goes on.

>>8062825
So I was right then. I'll need to prepare myself, because I'm getting her ending out of the way first.

>>8062825
And just when I thought you'd finally disappeared. I was a fool to expect good things.

>>8062825
Luca is fine you wanker.

>>8062841
Oh, I'm not the one who posts that in every thread. I just threw it in for laughs.

Please tell me the protag in AT2 is at least a little bit less of a faggot than Lyner.

>>8063535
Yes he is. Also breast somelier.

>>8063535
Croix is the manliest and most mature JRPG protag I've ever seen. Not visually, but personality-wise.

>>8063583
But that's not Raze.

>>8063583
I wouldn't call him the "manliest", and his personality type sadly shoves him off as nothing but a side-character in the main tale. The supportive role, to be more precise.

>>8063588
He is like alto between Ranka and Sheryl.

>>8063588
I'd go with manliest, because pretty much every other jRPG protagonist I know of, with maybe the exception of Lyner, acts either like a 12-year-old or like a 12-year-old's ideal of what a 'cool' character would act like

>>8063587
Raze was way too forgettable.

>>8061577
HobbyLink hasn't even shipped my copy yet. It's still listed as preorder on their website.

>>8063960
Same here.

>>8061589

If you do decide to go through with it I will love you forever. Personally I was hoping Udon would publish it since they did a great job with the Atelier Chronicle and Ar tonelico books.

>>8063583

I always liked Yuri from Tales of Vesperia. He clearly didn't give a fuck, it was such a nice change.

>>8064907
I'm also hoping that Udon will publish it in english. 3800 yen is also not exactly a 'disposable' amount for me at the moment and unless I know what would be the best way to remove scanning raster artefacts, such as the stuff you see in the image, I'm not going to commit to scanning it myself.


Yuri wasn't a 'don't give a fuck' character. He's got more of a cynical outlook in life and has been through some shit before so he rolls with the punches rather than whinge about the bad hand he's been dealt. I guess that's one of the reasons why I also liked his character because he wasn't a wide eyed naive newbie, but he's had a few years worth of experiences and while he may not know exactly how to do something, he'll approach it in a sensible manner.

Croix knows all the girls around him are completely fucking insane (and they clearly are) and deals with it as best he can.

Better than Lyner.

If someone who knows more about the mechanics of Song Magic could answer this for me, I'd be very appreciative:

Why are hymns sung with a mixture of Hymmnos and Japanese? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to be straight Hymmnos?

>>8064957
I'm fairly certain it's a compromise to allow the target audience to actually understand what the song is trying to convey.

>>8064943
Croix has Cocona which would be a fairly good grounding. Lyner on the other hand usually has his head stuck in la la land

>>8063535
Croix is hands-down the best of the AT protags. His only problem is that after phase 3 or so he basically gets demoted to side character in the main story.

Play more J-RPGs.

Is it just my imagination, or is this thread seriously lacking Mimi?

>>8064907
>>8064938

Ok, double checking on the artefacts with a friend confirmed that those visual flaws are to do with the actual printing process. Examining the Atelier Chronicles and the Ar tonelico art book has full solid colours, so there shouldn't be any scanning artefacts. The question is now am I willing to fork out ~$50 to import an art book only to willingly destroy it via unbinding just to scan it and upload it? Hmmm...

>>8067451

I'd say wait a while for the price to go down but I'm not sure what the availability would be like on it or if the price would even go down.. Either way I look forward to it if you do decide to get it.

>>8064957
I think it's probably a mixture of desire to conveying meaning to the audience, ease of lyricizing (writing in an artificial language ain't easy), and that the Reyvateils know two languages so both get drawn on during the crafting of the song.

>>8068251
Highly doubt the prices will come down much if at all. It's not like there's a continuous print run for those sort of things. I'll reconsider it when the local currency hits a stronger peak against the yen/usd.

>>8066512
The last thread had a lot of Mimi. Consider it as a break to guard against fatigue.


Anyhow on Totorin gameplay, I could kiss Astrid for leaving behind a single particular item which solved all my money worries in an instant. The moment I saw it, my Rorona memories were triggered and I knew I was in the money pile. Sure it takes ~2 minutes to cash out two spring waters, but at 5k cole per round, that's my definition of breaking the economy. Process a batch of 10, go back and synthesise a new item, repeat... meanwhile the Chims are busy manufacturing/duplicating particular ingredients or stuff that can't be wholesaled. I might need to go back and redevelop my bomb lines to incorporate the higher quality ingredients I have access to... That is, if I can afford the time to do it because I royally bootched making the ship (Didn't realise you had to speak to Cordelia to start the last chain of events to get the ship recipes... The bloody ship is made out of S ranked parts without trying)

>>8066512
Quite a bit of Mimi.
Obligatory.

>>8068473
Make sure to always keep your Mimi close to a Totori~n.

Bump since this thread shouldn't be on page 10

And so there I was, wondering if Totori's attire wasn't unfitting for the Forgotten Village and its surroundings. Next I talk to an NPC, which thinks the same, stating: "Aren't you cold in those clothes?"...oh, GUST. You never cease to amuse me with your self-acknowledging of tropes and archetypes.

I do wonder how Totori~n would look in winter clothing, though.

>>8070676

She'd wrap herself up in Mimi's cloak/coat. Oh Totorin, why are you so moe?

On a Tonelico note, is it bad that I think Luca has the best english voice in the series?

>>8070794
>Not avoiding the dub like the plague
I sure hope you guys didn't do this.

>>8070794
pukingfrelia.jpg

>>8070794

It's good, but I wouldn't say it's the best.

I always had a soft spot for Aurica's English voice, personally. I know that makes me a little weird.

>>8071111
Aurica is a good girl, but her voice falls a little flat.

I hated the japanese Aurica's nasally voice but the english one isn't much better.

Never tried the dub for AT2. Tried AT3's for about 10 minutes before switching back because all of the girls sounded the same.

>>8070806
>>8070807

The AT dubs are fine, stop being weeaboo faggots. You only like the Jap voices better because they mask the shittiness that the writing can occasionally have.

>>8071202
No, I'm pretty sure I dislike the dub because it's terrible.

>Sterk telling Gino that if he (Gino) doesn't get his act together, the person he was trying to protect will go and end up stronger than he is
>Then says he had a similar experience as that

Either he's talking about Gio or Rorona beating Sterk in the arena is canon.

>>8071485
Rorona beating Sterk AND Gio in the arena is canon. Sterk already knew that Gio was way stronger than him and is one of the primary motivators for Sterk to keep on training. Even when getting the advantage of an ambush Sterk gets his ass handed to him by Gio. Astrid End is considered as the 'true' end for Atelier Rorona.

Sterk also tells Totori after a few outings that she's a lot better than he expected and expresses disappointment in that fact (because yet again she's not someone who'll rely on Sterk to protect her). He's got a serious knight complex...

>>8071726

>He's got a serious knight complex...

If only the internet existed in Arland.

>>8071726
>He's got a serious knight complex...
He does. It shows when you take him and Mimi out together.

Why is Mimi so lewd?

>>8072496
That just might be my favorite scene in the whole game.

THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE

>>8072463
With homunculi and such running around, it's just a matter of time before a crafty enough alchemists invents some form of crude internet made out of chunks of graphite connected with magical catgut or something.

>>8072743
Not puffy enough.

Holy fuck, I know I'm late but I just finished Totori. Why is the boss theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWqRwXW0ICs)) so good? I mean, it's insane how good it is!
An arrange of the title theme as the boss theme? That's fucking genius.

>>8073869
Now get True End.

Meruru should be in my hands tomorrow...my body is ready.

>>8073869
Terminus is a nice song, but I still like Cyclone from Rorona more.

Also, speaking of great remixes of opening themes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdEp1WKiKqk

>>8073869
Terminus is a nice song, but I still like Cyclone from Rorona more.

Also, speaking of great arrangements of opening themes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdEp1WKiKqk

>>8073869
I swapped from using Nefertiti to the default for that boss fight. I was a little disappointed in that fight because it was easier than the Black Dragon and the Glass Spirit. Those two kicked the living crap out of me./ I guess that teaches me for fighting optional bosses without getting the top level accessories. I'm still using Runestones, Spirit Necklaces and Gibate Anhks as accessories for the resists.

Guess it's time to buckle down and custom tailor some new accessories and if I can manage it, optimise the weapons and armours. Not that I'm disappointed with my current weapon/armours.

I'm probably going to make Mystic Rings as the 'primary' accessory once I set up the production chain. I'll need to produce a brand new high quality Arland Crystal, aim for a near 100 quality Polish Powder and then concoct a Sylph Breath with the traits I want on the rings then spike the trait points pool with a Spirit Stone to replicate the traits from the Sylph Breath to the Blessed Coin. From there, I can use the Blessed Coin as the base for the Mystic Rings, tack on a +10 all stats with a Dragon Tusk that'll also negate the Muscle Atrophy effect then use another high quality Spirit Stone to spike the trait point pool again to set the traits and get the Block L effect. Phew... That accessory is going to take a good 2 weeks to manufacture...

>>8075076
No words can express my jealousy right now...
Then again, I probably wouldn't be able to fully appreciate the game when I won't be able to understand a large portion of the effects/traits.

I swapped from using Nefertiti to the default for that boss fight. I was a little disappointed in that fight because it was easier than the Black Dragon and the Glass Spirit. Those two kicked the living crap out of me. I guess that teaches me for fighting optional bosses without getting the top level accessories. I'm still using Runestones, Spirit Necklaces and Gibate Anhks as accessories for the resists.

Guess it's time to buckle down and custom tailor some new accessories and if I can manage it, optimise the weapons and armours. Not that I'm disappointed with my current weapon/armours.

I'm probably going to make Mystic Rings as the 'primary' accessory once I set up the production chain. I'll need to produce a brand new high quality Arland Crystal, aim for a near 100 quality Polish Powder and then concoct a Sylph Breath with the traits I want on the rings then spike the trait points pool with a Spirit Stone to replicate the traits from the Sylph Breath to the Blessed Coin. From there, I can use the Blessed Coin as the base for the Mystic Rings, tack on a +10 all stats with a Dragon Tusk that'll also negate the Muscle Atrophy effect then use another high quality Spirit Stone to spike the trait point pool again to set the traits and get the Block L effect. Phew... That accessory is going to take a good 2 weeks to manufacture...

>>8075076
No words can express my jealousy right now...
Then again, I probably wouldn't be able to fully appreciate the game when I won't be able to understand a large portion of the effects/traits.

All these girls are so soft, fragile and cute.
I want to mercilessly rape them.

>>8075206
A good number of them are alchemists who will kick your ass using a bomb and a smile (or Mimi will impale you for daring to touch Totori)

>>8075206
You're horrible, and most of them would kill you for your loot.
I wonder what you could make out of human with alchemy or grathmelding?

>>8075201
Urrrk... The Mythical Rings that I spent about a month to manufacture are not what I expected. yes, it transfers HP and MP that's consumed into a random stat, but those random stats mean HP or MP. No appreciable increases in Atk or Def during a 14 turn battle against the bosses in that stupid tower. On the plus side, taking damage = charging MP, using skills = small heal and using the Dimension Egg on Totori gives her a nice HP boost. The rings do appear to soak a lot of damage due to the Block L and I was noticing that Mimi with the rings was simply not dying while Sterk who was still using a Gibate Ankh for stupidly high resistances and has more Def was hitting the deck.

For all you OCD synthesisers, the elemental Dampens/Cloaks are not applicable to accessories. The only real way to get meaningful resistances would be to use the Spirit Necklaces or the Gibate Ankhs

I'm thinking of playing the Atelier games. I think I could emulate ps2 ones and then buy the ps3 ones. Should I play every translated games?

>>8076792
if you have enough time, sure. the ps2 games are about 25 hrs each and they aren't really difficult.
just remember the stories aren't related.
i also recommend you play atelier annie, you can emulate it.

>>8076825
Alright then. Now all I have to do is find the games.

>>8076825
Atelier Annie? Seriously?
I found that game to be far too simplistic for my synthesis urges and the combat results can sometimes be rather counter-intuitive.

The play times for the Atelier games are variable depending on how long you stay stuck in a rut researching and developing a new item synthesis. Basically, how nitpicky you are in making the absolute best you can make at that point in time, or if you can ignore that urge and just 'make do' with quickly slapped together crap.

>>8077116
Annie at least is lovable.

A lovable jew.

Just got Platinum Rank.

I notice I haven't really synthesized much. I guess I just felt I haven't really needed to. I might need to it again to upgrade my armor but otherwise I've synthesized a lot less than I did in Rorona. I spend more time just running into different gathering areas and doing some quests to get my rank up or fulfill the Rank Artisan achievements (also finally did the do-9-quests-before-any-refill achievement... only for the 12 one to appear right after, dammit).

Anyway, is this bad? Has anyone else not synthesize often?

>>8077845
You might want to get your alchemy level up so you can eventually make good Elixirs without failing them, plus you need Rorona's end for the true end, which needs alchemy level 50.

>>8077862

Well I'm not too worried over Rorona's End since this is my first playthrough and I'm doing a blind one (i.e. not consulting walkthrough for true end).

I do need my Alchemy Level up so I can synthesize better items and such, the problem is deciding what items to waste my time synthesizing on. And I only bought a few recipe books since currently no quests required the items from the books.

>>8077875 here

And now I am Diamond Rank. Now that I'm saved from Bad End 2 and can do what I want until the end of Year 3 (I'm on 3y5m16d), I wonder what I should do. Just synthesize random stuff to get my Alchemy Level up? Explore all the areas? Grind? There's so much more to do compared to Rorona.

>>8078150
You should definitely synth stuff to get your level high enough to make the items that speed up travel and gathering if you're not at that point already. They're really good.

>>8077845
I initially thought I was synthesising a lot less items, then 'something' happened and I was synthesising like crazy updating my consumables and setting up chains to get particular results on ingots/cloths or just items in general. I think that something was just the realisation that the initial batch of items I had wholesaled and was using were well past their prime. Bombs were doing less damage than Totori's basic attacks, healing items were nigh pointless in that they couldn't negate a round of hits, not having MP or LP recovering items etc...

Since you've hit Platinum Rank, you should really look into getting the Traveller's Shoes made. Those are a massive time saver (They cut the travel time on foot between Alanya and Arland to ~14 days from 21) and relieve a lot of time pressure especially when you get into the last two years because you'll need to travel a lot.

Just finished Iris 2, so I am now only four games behind.

I have to say, though, the one thing a video game can do that pisses me off more than anything else is when the game is easy for the first 99% and then you hit the final boss and suddenly the game starts fucking you in the face. I don't mind games being hard, mind you, nor do I mind games starting easy and then gradually gaining difficulty, but putting a huge spike right at the climax, thus potentially forcing you to go back and grind/minmax (thankfully I just had to do a bit of synthesis and shuffle some equipment around in camp in AI2) and completely fucking the momentum of the game, is pretty shitty.

>>8079653

Could be worse. Could be playing a game where you can't grind. Thank you very much, Bloodlines.

>>8079653
Iris 2's gameplay is not that good, but Iris 2 is better than the other 2. Heck even storyline are better than MK for me.
Iris 3 is shit, i do what you do now last month.

>>8076792

I wish I had your motivation. I have Rorona and Totori sitting beside me along with 30~ other games sitting in my backlog and instead I browse the internet all day every day.

>>8081606

Same... I have a mountain of games that have never been touched. I should really do something about that... And remove the DVDs I bought four years ago from their shrink wrap.

I ordered totori almost a month ago and when DHL lost tracking of my package i thought I'd never get to play it. guess what they've finally found it and it's arriving to my house this afternoon! I'm so happy.

>>8079653
Did you find all of Lilith's tablets? I don't remember well but doing that allows you to summon the unicorn from Iris 1, it's the ultimate healing spell. I had to use it about twenty times during that fight

>>8079653
>>8081654
The final boss was a difficult fight, but I still won the first time around. He had some nasty attacks, but wasn't that much harder then the rest of the game.
I really was happy, that he wasn't a pushover like the endboss of AI1, which hit me once during the whole fight, while the red dragons in the dungeon before almost insta killed me

Just be sure to set AI3 to Hard immediately to make the battles not a joke. I still wish the game was harder in general, or at least that they thought far enough in advance to make midbosses immune to the auto-kill skills. Particularly when there's one with a 100% success rate.

>>8081796
AI3 final boss is not that hard. Boss for time mana on the contrary, take forever to beat.

>>8081804
Time mana's annoying just because it punishes the normal RPG strategy for dealing with multiple enemies. Besides that, it's not really any harder than the rest.

>>8081816
I was underleveled at that fight. Just won, because I threw bombs at them, until they died.

I started playing Ar Tonelico last week because of this thread. Got through 3 endings. Even I like the game all together, it was just far too easy. I wish at least the boss could have been a little bit challenging. Oh well I am off to play 2 now.

Also, stupid question, I suppose there's no way to play totori without a ps3? I really wish to play as a little girl if that's what it is about.

Is this game any good?

I didn't want to play it because of it's popularity on /jp/, but today i heard some soundtracks while browsing youtube.
holy fuck fuck why didn't i know about this.

>>8082334
>I didn't want to play it because of it's popularity
People like this really exist?

>>8082354
>"because of it's popularity on /jp/"

>>8082334

If you like mild perv humor and drop-dead gorgeous female characters at every turn, AT won't let you down. The battle system and 3d aspect of 3 is a bit clunky, but it's tolerable for the girls, humor, and overall story.

>>8082370
>mild perv humor
Mild? I could've sworn like every third conversation was about diving deep into girls or inserting big hard crystals in their ports.
Or maybe I just paid more attention to that stuff, being what I am.

>>8082386

Well, 1 and 2 were mild compared to 3. The first two games were chock full of clever innuendo and laugh-out-loud pervert moments, but 3 is more in-your-face "let's fuck" style humor from what I've seen... Not that I mind... it's all good and it floats my boat quite well.

>>8082386
Oh yeah, I really love sticking my big ass crystals into the girls.

>>8082408

>ass crystals

Wat?

>>8082334

well about half a year ago I was in the same situation as you:

while browsing on /a/ someone posted the youtube link to METHOD_REPLEKIA/.
and I kinda got interested in the franchise.

today, half a year later,
I have bought all origna playstation games,
AT3 as limited edition in fact,
bought the art book,
and
cleared every single route for the girls,
cleared all the extra content in all games
(100 IPDs, all talk topics etc)
and listen to my favourite hymmns on a dailys basis.

so I guess I kinda like the game.

if you are as fascinated by the music, like myself,
then you should definitely play the games.
the whole concept of music/songs and the story surrounding them is really something which makes the games so special in my opinion.
and you should also read all the lyrics and translations for the hymmns.

I really love the links between the songs itself, their context in the game and the meaning of the sometimes really "different" lyrics.

the best example for this is EXEC_with.METHOD_METAFALICA/.

if you listen to EXEC_METAFALICA/. and METHOD_METAFALICA/. and read the translated lyrics, (And know the context in the ar tonelico 2 game)

and then hear/read/know the combination:
EXEC_with.METHOD_METAFALICA/.
= nerdgasm.

I loved that particular scene in AT2!
my favourite game of the series just for this song/scene/story

another interesting example for the "story within story" aspect of ar tonelico is EXEC_FLIP_FUSIONSPHERE/.

the story which is told in the lyrics is really noteworthy and doesn't fit the context of the song in the game at all.

hmm let's stop the discussion about music here.

the game itself is your typical jrpg with sci-fi, post apocalyptic, fantasy elements, the story is rather good, especially AT2 imo,
All 3 games are linked together and create the great finale with the end of AT3.

oh and the best girls are Misha, Cloche and Tyria!

>>8082386
I've played through the first one and about half of the second. Most of it was on the "if you know what I mean" level. Except for the Life Extension scenes.

>>8082627
thank you, i've just ordered the first two games

too bad i don't have a ps3 for the 3rd part

>>8082700
Oh boy, who do you plan to bypass the Reki bug on AT2 and also get a proper undub?

>>8082768
thanks, i didn't know about the bug
i hope it runs at least properly on pcsx2 then

>>8082827
It does work well emulated.
Also who→how.

>>8082827

Because it's a 2D game it runs very well emulated, even on older hardware. The EU version of AT2 doesn't have the Raki bug but the undub version is still superior.

I beat Atelier Rorona last week and got the normal ending.

Should I replay it and try getting the true ending, or head straight to Totori?

>>8084003
Personally, I would recommend a run to get the True/Astrid End. The techniques and pressure the true end places on you will serve you extremely well in any Atelier game since you'll learn/have to use efficient techniques, go through how to maximise what you do, and how to run rings around the synthesis system to get what you want, for the lowest cost and how to tailor traits to make very effective equipment and items. If anything, it'll show you how you can do things faster.

Although it doesn't have the same 'tick tock' of Rorona's 3 month intervals, Totori can be just as brutal on the time front because you do not have any easy time posts to help you calibrate yourself if you're on track, or if you've just wasted a month for nothing.

I've just about finished my first playthrough of Totori and I've got a huge list of stuff that I will do better in my 2nd+ play through as soon as I'm done collecting and collating all my data for a synthesis reference.

>>8083788

hmm what exactly do you guys mean with "the undub" is superior?
is the emulated version better translated than the original game?
I guess there isn't much difference between the japanese dub of the original game and the emulated ver.?

>>8084129
The officially localised version of AT2 cut out about 40-50% of the voiced dialogue. The undub removes the english track and implements the full JPN voices.

how come my Totori premium edition doesn't have the poster? I just got it yesterday and it sucks

>>8084299
Where did you get it from?

The poster is a NISA store exclusive.

>>8084147
http://www.at2.metalbat.com/?page_id=2
Waiting...

>>8084375
Well that sucks. I bought it at gamestop

>>8084409

You could return the game and buy from the NISA store if you really want the delicious poster since it looks like there's still some in stock.

>>8084679
Or just hang onto the extra copy and sell it on ebay in a few months when the game is sold out everywhere.

"Cannot read data, please remove game card"
Any idea ?

>>8084987
which game, which console/emulator?

I just started playing Rorona. It's my first Atelier game, and was just wondering if there any tips you guys have for new players to the series?

>>8085207
Don't rely on Iksel or Lionela for healing, items are better.
Bombs are overpowered, abuse them

When it's available, use wholesale whenever you can (for bombs, friend requests, front quests)

>>8085268
Real adventurers do everything without bombs.

>>8085268
>Don't rely on Iksel or Lionela for healing, items are better.

Don't tell him that, Iksel's healing is pretty much unlimited once you get his levels/HP up, even better if you can get him to learn his second-tier healing. I don't know how Lionela's healing is, I never used her much because her element clashes with Rorona's and Cordelia's and she's the weakest attacker in the game. So, it might not be a bad idea to keep Iksel in the party all the time. You'll need him, anyway, to reveal his special ingredients in each dungeon.

The only real good healing items late in the game is the Elixer and the Healing Bell, which you should try to wholesale.

Well, I just got the recipe book for the ship. And daaaaaaaaamn, that's a lot to synthesize and look at all dem ingredients. I sure got a lot of work to do. And I'm on 4y3m2d.

I'm guessing if I don't build the ship and get wherever I need to go in time, I get Bad End 3. I wonder if I'll make it...

>>8085319
>I don't like Iksel's healing, because if you use everyone to deal damage, the fight should be over before anyone dies...and then you can just heal out of combat if necessary.

The exception are bosses, but those die to a single Tera bomb with the right traits

>>8085319
I don't like Iksel's healing, because if you use everyone to deal damage, the fight should be over before anyone dies...and then you can just heal out of combat if necessary.

The exception are bosses, but those die to a single Tera bomb with the right traits

>>8085330
The quality of the ingredients doesn't matter, buy Eiche from Pamela for the wood

>>8085354

I was just about to ask if quality matters. That's good.

Still gotta buy recipe books for the items I haven't heard of yet, which will take a while because I hardly have any money and quests don't give you crap. And then I have to actually make them. Man, I shouldn't have neglected synthesizing too long.

>>8085330
>I'm guessing if I don't build the ship and get wherever I need to go in time, I get Bad End 3. I wonder if I'll make it...

The game ends on 6y6m30d (or 6y7m1d?...something like that)
When the boat is finished you need like 30-45 day of travel time (go east, leave the island to the south for later) + one boss fight to reach the place where you need to go
Once you have done that, you get the normal end. The fight against the final boss and everything else isn't necessary for the normal end

>>8085409
>The fight against the final boss and everything else isn't necessary for the normal end

Really? That's interesting to hear. Wonder if it really counts as a Final Boss then.

>>8085416
You need to defeat it for Mimi's ending and Melvias ending(and the true ending, obviously), but to get the normal ending you just need to reach the Frontier Village

>>8085416
He certainly didn't feel like a final boss to me.

Possibly that was my fault for spending way too long making ridiculous excessively powerful bombs though.

>>8085435
>>8085464

I haven't gotten there yet but I'd say the Flautwhatever (taking a good guess that's the boss you fight on the way) is probably the actual "Final Boss" of the game since he's in the way of the ending of the game and has been a huge problem for the village.

So I decided to take a break from Rorona since the game wore me out (second year, vulture assignment, zero motivation to continue). Instead, I decided to backtrack in the history of Atelier games and started Mana Khemia.

After a few hours, the game already made it on my "wtf how did I manage to miss out on this great game all this time?" -List, kinda similar to back then when I stumbled upon the Ar Tonelico series. It has taught me that this whole alchemy stuff can actually be fun, when you do it for a reason (upgrading your party)!

Also, whenever I hear Nike talk, I keep imagining a catgirl Dalian in her place. (<3 Sawashiro)

I was beginning to play Rorona when I took a look at the guide to help me get my desired endings.

What the hell am I looking at?

I don't understand how the endings work in this game. Should I just play and hope for the best? I don't want to spend too much time on this game, I have a lot of VN, anime, and other games I need to catch up on...

>>8085977

You could do what I'm doing and aim for the Astrid End. AFAIK, you'll see everyone's events except for the endings. I plan to look those up on youtube.

>>8086000
If you're getting the Astrid end then you should easily be able to see the others. Just put off doing the final Tantris and Lio events.

>>8086002
This is what I understand.

What I don't really understand is when that point comes, exactly. Some ends have priority over others, so if I hold off until on those two events, will I be able to branch off to all the ends? Or will it require more complex save-setups and such?

>>8085882
Yes, Mana Khemia is awesome. The music is awesome, the synth is awesome, the characters are... good, the story is nonexistent, and the battle graphics are best tier. I enjoyed it very very much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9uiN6Cgp2g
もはやとめられはしないのです!

>>8086043
MK gave me Kaworu 2.0, alchemist version, and I can'ty ask for more.

>>8086043
Oh, and I forgot to mention:
Dat Muupe ending. And his theme. God, his theme is incredible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqym4pW6eHg

>>8086042
Just keep a save at the beginning of the last assignment and a month or so before and you'll be fine.

>>8086043
As awesome as Hey is, Nefertiti is the best song that MK gave us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2guiRH2FsSk
I lament that they haven't followed up on the combat system too because it's one of my favorite JRPG engines. Massive party action, flows very quickly, actually evolves and changes in non-trivial ways as the game progresses, etc. Why'd you abandon it, Gust?

>>8086090
One of the best parts of Nefertiti is that its awesome opening syncs up great with the boss battle itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJQmEZGzk88

>>8086108
>English voices
That brings me back. The battle system really was fun. Time to go play MK2, I suppose.

>>8086145
MK2 is a step forward and a step back. I love the tweaks they made to the combat engine, like everybody having a variable strike, defensive supers, and even further streamlined harvesting/synthesizing. But on the other hand, the characters are pretty weak and the character balance is done along elementals instead of their roles in combat, so instead of MK having every character be very useful in different ways, MK2 is most characters are very similar in usage barring a few incredibly broken skills and you can only modify your party in the single post-game dungeon.

>>8086145
This is instant! This is instant! This is instant! This is instant! This is instant! This is instant! This is instant! This is instant!

oh hey, look what someone over on /vp/ drew

>>8086503
scary

>>8086043
I could listen to that song all fucking day.

>>8086232
MK2's synthesis system feels like cheating in a way. They bloody list to you all of the possible effects on an item in the library so you don't even need to experiment. It's just a matter of looking at the effects, deciding on what you want then nailing them.

I will agree that the characters are flat. I'm seriously suffering through Ulikia's route because almost every single character in her group are... urrk and their combat prowess is just horrid. Raze's group in contrast is much more interesting combat and personality wise.

>>8086090
Nefertiti is just unfairly awesome. It's probably my favourite boss battle theme outside of the AT series

>>8086951
Yeah. Goro and Pepperoni are just pointless despite being probably the only amusing ones of the group. Mech boy's pretty pointless too. At least Ulrika and Chloe are strong, but compared to how broken Puniyo and Lily are along with Raze as a powerhouse... they just don't compare.

>>8087072
IMHO, Ulrika's group almost seem to be the foil to Raze's lot. Et's quirks are far more pronounced and amusing when Enna is around (the 'duel' in the first of Enna's character events between the two of them is rather amusing) while Chloe's snarky perspective adds companionship to Raze's rather 'oh shit, here we go again' attitude to things.

>>8087123
Yes, they're obviously meant to play off each other. Ulrika's group is just lame and has no chemistry with the other members in it, nothing really going on with it, and they're boring in combat compared to Raze's. Both groups are flat compared to the MK1 party though.

I think I might be the only one who dislikes MK1 and prefers MK2.

>>8088041
Well, I like both but I do prefer 2.

>>8086503
Heh

>>8088556
Anon instead of redlining stuff that the original artist will never see you should instead draw us some naked Totorin or Mimi.

>>8089287
Sorry ZUNbar, I won't draw lewd stuff.

>>8089313
F-fine, clothed Mimi then.

>>8089287
>>8089313
>>8089382

You know... we could really use some more mature Rorona...

>>8089382

Keep in mind that if you fill his request he will only undress her with his eyes.
Do you want such a lewd man laying eyes on such purity?

>>8090391
I'm sure we're doing that all the time regardless

Physics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPWnn0yQTBc

>>8091188

I love that part. Especially Finnel going "Yeah yeah, the boobs, they are bouncing. Not like it concerns me, though ;_;"

Blind-first-playthrough player here. Finally crafted the Traveler Shoes, Speed Gloves, and Warp Gate. That should hopefully cut the amount of time I use immensely. I guess now I should focus on the ship. Problem is it's so hard to make money in this game and it's hard to KEEP that money. What with me either having to buy ingredients to synthesize again or buy healing items or buy bombs or buy the recipe books or... You get the picture. I don't know why quests give such a low amount of money.

Current time is 4y9m1d, at Cobalt Rank. Let's see if I can make the last rank and the ship before the end.

>>8092820
Do you still have dark dew Sterk gave you? Make a Spring Cup with the dark dew and register it a couple times. You won't have to worry about money after that.

>>8092949

Yeah, I still have the Dark Dew. I don't have the Spring Cup, so I guess the recipe is in a dungeon I haven't explored.

>>8093007
The recipe is given to you by Rorona, actually. Craft a fish pie at Atelier Rorona, and a few weeks later the recipe should be yours.

>>8093022

Ohhh, thanks.

>>8093390
You've got to make the pies in Atelier Totori, Ceci will give you the recipe.

>>8093163 here

How do I get the fish pie recipe? I made sure all the pies from Rorona's Pie Notes were Homemade quality but nothing happened.

>>8093394

God dammit

Gust are such bastards. Chim needs pie to work and now suddenly you can't wholesale pies anymore. What the hell.

>>8093821
Ceci sells pies, buy all of them whenever her store restocks

>>8093846

Yeah, sometimes I forget that. Still, though.

At least I have the Warp Gate now, would have been a pain if I still had to walk back to Alanya.

>>8093821
Have a Chim on pie making duty.

I'm surprised no one has made vocaloid hymns yet.

Woohoo, crafted the Spring Cup and registered it and all the stuff that were suggested.

... Oh man. I've never seen so much money in this game. I don't think I've ever made more than 5000 before having to spend it.

I listen to Full-Bokko and Ultimate Rondo whenever I go for a walk or drive. Rorona may not have the best music but it has excellent crusin' tunes.

>>8082334
Needs more pictures.

>>8094433
>vocaloid hymns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_3oxegqRkc

>>8095914
NOPE

>>8095914
That has the feeling of a song, a good theme, but it just doesn't feel right. What does the song perform? Anything? It doesn't sound like it.

>>8096026
I personally think it's a total mess of noise. I'd rather make my ears bleed with Cuttypump or Xaaaci at max volume than listen to that crap.

Personally, I don't get the popularity with using the Hatsune Miku et. al synthesised voice packages. They're horribly artificial and simply cannot create a clear enough sound for any song with a degree of complexity in its tune or lyrics. I will agree that the character designs are charming, but it'll be like worshipping Ragnarok Online even though the only good thing to come out of it are the fap material doujins.

>>8096119
I am okay with vocaloids. There are some I like such as Miku or Megurine, but ones I can't stand like Teto.
But I think the voice sounds like it would work in a song, it just feels like the song is lifeless and has no purpose, no reason.

>>8096137

If I had to guess it'd probably be due to the fact that the vocaloids don't sound "right" outside of japanese, so the hymnos bits weren't as good.

>>8096146
I think it might be overuse of only a few pieces of hymmnos. There's not a lot of range of different words and it feels constricted when using hymmnos.

I think Luca would fair better singing hymmnos.

>>8096879
Well she IS a slut.

I'm new to Atelier series, so Should I start with PS2 or PS3 games?

>>8097684
Haha, you funny guy, I kill you last.

>>8097745
PS2, definitely. As mentioned above, I'd recommend starting with Mana Khemia.

>>8097745
As great as the PS3 Atelier games are, ultimately they fall under the more advanced category for players familiar to the series. It is certainly possible to, as I did, jump right into them, but you may appreciate the experience much more if you play the PS2 ones first.

>>8097745
>>8097791
Yeah, the Iris trilogy at least (I haven't gotten to MK yet) is basically what you get when you cross the PS3 ones with a more traditional RPG.

>>8097816
Except 1. Which does something weird.

>>8097791
Ugh, 1 was fine, but then I tried to play 2. The generic and the poor art (my opinion, etc.) managed to put me off after a few hours. I got rid of the disc.
Should I try 3? Or is 2 worth it after some hours?

>>8097920
Do you mean iris series? Iris 2 better than 1, and far better than 3 in my opinion. Also has best girls. Viese and Fee.

>>8097935
Strange. Well, maybe I'll give 2 another chance.

>>8097935

Neither of those are Veola.

>>8097966
Dammit why you reminding me. ;_;

>>8097966
Cannot have ;_;

>>8097966
>>8097970
>>8097990

That feel, man. Damn it.

Got a couple questions to Totori players here:

Does it really matter what gem you get when crafting the Arland Crystal (topaz, sapphire, etc.)? And which of these two accessories is more useful: The Gibate Ankh or the Runestone?

There's no better/faster way to make money than the Spring Cups trick, right? Been doing it since yesterday and even more today and I still only have 86783 cole. I'm glad that players discovered it for everyone and it allowed me to buy the more expensive recipe books. I just wonder how the devs expect everyone to get 500k for the Store End legitimately without doing a crapload of playthroughs.

>>8097966
Wasn't there a theory saying she was supposed to be the protagonist, but was switched for Klein towards the end of development? Given how much character development she has, I think it's possible.

>Visual Book 3

Does this book have landscapes artwork too? Just curious.

>>8098151
I think the type of Arland crystal influences the traits of some items/accesories that use them as ingredients.

I prefer Runestones because it's easier to get stat boosting traits on them iirc. The only thing the Ankh is really good for is the exp boosting ability.

>>8099345
looks good! Any more for 2 and Qoga?

>>8098428
Players who came off Rorona would have their eyes light up the moment they saw the Dark Dew in Sterk's bag of gifts. The devs would expect that people would not be able to get the 500k for the store end unless they knew how to exploit synthesis and wholesaling. That's kind of the point of having that 'reward' ending.

>>8098151
Some items that require Arland Crystals would have different effects depending on what kind of gem you had as an effect. I personally preferred the Runestone because it was easier to manufacture initially. The Spirit Necklace is great when you get the opportunity to make it for the resistances it gives plus the ease which you can slap traits onto it and finally the Mythical Rings are god like in their defensive capabilities if you get good effects and traits.

>>8101413
I still don't get how people are able to experiment with different items and bonus dungeons when trying to get the true ending, especially due to all the exact date requirements.

>>8101420
You don't. You'd tend to aim for the True ending once you've got all your gear pre-synthesised in earlier runs or you know exactly what you want to do and cut out as much of the extras as possible and know how to minimise time wastage. New Game+ advantages of having the best equipment lets you ignore the level requirements for any zone up to the 4y+ areas, which gives you a lot of extra breathing space to work on your alchemy levels so that you can get those traveller's shoes and the like the second you get the recipe. Also knowing that you can get the boat speed upgrade before you actually make the trip across the ocean cuts off a good month or so of travel time compared to a near optimal run and multiple months if you've stuffed things up big time (like on my first/current run), PLUS, being able to get through the earlier areas without relying on bombs means that you can afford to have your chims feed themselves with their own pies because you don't need them to duplicate ingredients or items for adventuring.

I've 'resigned' myself to the Mimi end for my first playthrough and I'm spending the remaining 4-5 months just synthesising optimal equipment and cataloguing synthesis info such as allowable traits, cost level contributions and the like and finally filling out the library as much as possible (and making the Chimpie). While building up a ludicrous bank balance of course.

>>8101469
You can get the upgrade before getting the ship?

>>8101475
You can get it shortly afterwards, before you make the huge ass voyage to the outer isles. Just make a short trip across to the land mass south of Alanya and by the time you get back after your little trip you should be able to trigger the event to get the speed upgrade for the ship.

>>8101049

I was playing around in photoshop (total newbie with it) and I felt like doing that after seeing this thread. Check it out, it has some gorgeous shit but not much when it comes to ps2 games.

>http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442713

>Any more for 2 and Qoga?

The bad news are that I haven't played the sequels (at 2, at 3) so I don't know where's this landscape from (got them from the mediafire account from the OP)

>>8101503

Not person you replied to, but I sure wish I knew that before I actually went sailing across the ocean.

Also, not what I expected when I finally landed on the continent to that village. Damn, that hurts...

>>8101674
I made around 4 trips across the oceans before I found out... That's pretty much the reason why I had to bum-rush getting level 50 and grabbing the Mimi ending because I flushed 1.5+ months down the toilet in unnecessary travel time.

And now I have defeated Evil Face. What is it with Arland super demons and dressing all snazzy?

Well as Totori said, there's really nothing left to do but random adventuring. I guess I should try to craft optimal equipment, get to Galaxy rank, and try to set off or come close to set off as many ending flags as possible so I don't have to worry about them in the second playthrough.

Although the latter two may be difficult. I'm starting to run out of time - 6y2m27d - and I haven't triggered any ending flags yet. Probably the only ending flags I may have time for are Gino's, Chim's (depends on how fast they eat the pies), and maybe Melvia's. Unsure about Sterk (didn't complete the beer quest and walkthrough mentions he needs to drink), Rorona (FP not high enough, events take a long time to trigger), and Marc (FP nowhere near high enough). Mimi's impossible since I missed some of her events. Oh well, I'll see what I can do with this playthrough and do the others in the second playthrough.

Oh, when you guys are optimizing equipment, what are your preferred traits? Element Power/Enchant Element, Convert Damage, Element Dampen/Cloak, Enemy Repel, Attack/Defense +, etc. etc. Element Power is very tempting due to extra damage, Convert Damage would be nice for recovering HP on the easier encounters, having strong element resistances is great for survival... But always doing criticals against enemy types, gaining extra stats, regen, inflicting status (especially sleep) are also pretty nice. I find it so difficult to choose.

I'm having trouble getting sterks ending. as I understand, I need complete gino's route and then do the guardian event with Sterk. Am I missing something? because after I did all that, I still got gino's ending.

>>8103813
never mind, looks like sterk's relationship needs to be higher than gino's

>>8103838

Was about to suggest that but thought you might have already known that.

>>8103204
+10 to def, atk and all stats. I'm not going to worry too much about +speed as speed only really makes a difference if you're evenly matched with the monsters. I'll be using Mythical Rings as my primary accessories so for the most part, I can ignore resistances except for special cases (The Terra Bomb Squirrels and the first Dragon need high fire resistances to take down early). +30HP would be handy to kick start the beginning but best weapons + convert damage L would negate the need to heal for most of the game. Skills +30, MP Cost -30% are standard. Holy Power to resist Instant KOs and Healing Power to have regen on the accessory covers all 5 traits on the accessory. Atk +10 and Convert Damage L on the weapon will cover pretty much all the needs for the early parts of the game where you just brute force past stuff without needing to worry about status effects. Slapping Repel Animal, Beast and Demon/Ghost would cover the remaining three traits on the weapon and give you a massive advantage over the stuff you'll find in the early game.

+30 HP, MP and LP, especially LP on the armour would help immensely in the early game as well. +LP is nearly vital for Mimi at the beginning since she has very little LP and if you spend a month out on the roads, she's going to be exhausted. That puts 4 traits on the armour when adding +10 Def, so if you move the Healing Power from the accessory to the armour, then put +10 speed to the accessory, that'll cover all your major stat boosts.

If you need specialist equipment, might as well make that per-run but keep the general quick start gear as default.

>>8104587

I'll keep all them in mind (I've given the game a rest for a little while). I guess elemental resistance aren't too important, then?

It's funny that for a game that doesn't have a strong focus on combat, it allows quite a lot of customization on your equipment.

>>8104777
I found it incredibly difficult to get meaningful resistances on gear outside of using the Spirit Necklace or the Ankh because of their effects. TBH, I only had problems with the Dragon and the Terra Bomb Squirrels that resistances helped in a significant way. I'll be making wholesaleable versions of the Spirit Necklaces and put them on Cordelia/Iksel/Ceci so I can replicate them on new games for the cheap and easy resistances.

I use the Mythical Rings, which do a great job in reducing damage via their Block L effect, which also appears to reduce elemental damage since I had Mimi with the rings, lower overall resistances and defence take more of a beating than Sterk who had a good 10+ more def and +20 resistances on average. That's not including the endless MP stream from taking damage.

>>8104989

>Terra Bomb Squirrels

I need to start playing Totori.

Which walkthrough do you guys prefer to follow when trying to get True Ending for Totori?

This one: http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/991771-atelier-totori-the-adventurer-of-arland/faqs/63191

Or this one?: http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/991771-atelier-totori-the-adventurer-of-arland/faqs/63157

The second one is familiar to me as it's structured the same way as the Rorona walkthrough I followed.

I'm just looking through the equipment I am able to make. shadowband is the best, right? It sure seems that way.
Also, am I supposed to be losing health each round while wearing it, or did I just add a terrible trait without realizing it?

>>8106118
First time I got to those was the first time I got kicked back to the Atelier. They don't mess around.

>>8107387

It has HP Degen by default and I don't think you can remove it. That's the trade-off for having 2 turns in a row.

>>8107406
you can "remove" it by having the hp regen trait (from the dragon scales) on two other items

>>8107406
If you're willing to spare a slot for healing power on all your equipment then you can just overpower the degen that way, though.
It's a pretty good deal, especially since you're probably gonna be trying to find 0 cost traits to put on the shadow band anyway since its cost level is so low.

Good evening, gentlemen. The first time I played this, I didn't put Mimi in my party immediately and eventually she came into Totori's workshop complaining about not using her help and she moves to Arland. If I invite Mimi into the party the moment she appears and use her all the time, does she stay in Alanya?

>>8107649
She normally relocates to Arland regardless.

So, I got this MAx Factory PVC figure of Cloche on an impulse for 38.67875 USD (converted with google) at a convention today. How did I do?

>>8109064
I would kill to get it at that price
I jelly

>>8109064
If Amazon is to be believed, it costs 255 USD

>>8109083
>>8109075
Oh wow oh wow, not only I watched Kalafina live today, I actually made a good purchase on impulse. Awesome, this weekend is just freaking awesome

Blind-first-playthrough player here.

I finally beat it. But unfortunately I was wrong about when the game ends. It ends on 6y*5*m30d, not 6y6m30d. So I only had time to get the normal end, even though I could have also had Melvia, Gino, and maybe Chim if I had more time. Oh well, looks like my second playthrough will be busy. I'll be following a guide this time.

This game was pretty good, better than Rorona. I noticed it had more serious/dramatic moments, too, whereas Rorona was pretty light-hearted all the way through with only a couple exceptions. I wonder how Meruru will be.

>Find out about Totori's DLC
>Ceci as a party member


FFFFFFFFFFFFF and I thought the game was just cockteasing with her sidestory.

Also, I am really horrible with the time-managing. On my first playthrough I wasn't able to reach the last adventurer rank (or trigger any ending flags) so I got the bad ending. Now I'm at around y5m11 and still need 800 points...

>>8109874
The story acts like she isn't in the party, sorry.
Also, no battle pantyshots. Covered up by monsters.

>>8109874
woah woah woah... y5m11 and you've got 800 points to go for Galaxy rank?

I'll assume you've been to the remote village so you've cleared the Normal end flag. What's your Adventurer and Alchemy levels?

General time management tips:
Synthesise in batches. Supplements take 0.2 days each? Make them in lots of 5. Something else takes 0.4 days each? Again, lots of 5. 0.7 days? Ideally in lots of 10 (7 days) but that'll come down to a judgement call on whether or not you have the materials, need that many, can duplicate the item via Chim/Wholesale and can get the traits/effects you want with a lower count. 0.9 days? Do the same with 0.7 day items.

When adventuring, the game always advances by one day when you leave an area. Try to leave a little bit of time left on the gauge so you don't get hammered by a day when you can avoid it. This may mean you don't pick up a gather spot(s) or avoid that last enemy fight. An exception would be if an area has an 'achievement' for grabbing all of the gather points. If there is such a thing, get it in one hit because normally that means those places have a LOT of gather points. If you're in a fight, fight it. It's not worth running away because you get the time deducted regardless (unless you'll get KO'd in that case, run and try to get away). You can look in a gather spot before you commit to taking anything in it without a time loss.

Don't over-synthesise. Wholesale and the Chims exist for a reason. Use them, abuse them. Don't be afraid to hot swap a wholesale item if you really need to duplicate an item quickly. Do your own synthesis or adventure while you're waiting for mass replication from chims.

Good enough is good enough. No need to keep hammering quests when you've got all the points possible (do 50 of each type, get S rank in 15 of each type). You don't make a lot of money from quests in any case.

Make the Traveller's Shoes, Gathering Gloves, Warp Portal, Backpack ASAP.

>>8109092

Sounds great. That figure is pretty much sold out everywhere so I'm surprised you managed to get one randomly, especially for so cheap.

>>8109881

Does it even add anything other than the ability to use her in battle?

shipping now

>>8111214
Waiting warmly for peasant download link.

Some OC, since I really wish for a Maintenance Droid route in AT.

>implying you wouldn't want to take a nap with MeiMei

How is the translation for Rorona/Totori? While working through my backlog I've recently completed AT3 and I'm playing Neptunia right now and some of the translations are either downright wrong or they've just thrown in extra stuff for absolutely no reason. Having stuff like 'bro' thrown around kind of irritates me too. Why do NISA keep doing this?

>>8111573
The localisation for Rorona/Totori are perfectly fine in most cases. Probably the only really annoying thing is the unnecessary name change from Esty Erhard to Esty Dee ROTFLMAO STD get it? So funneh /sarcasm which unfortunately had to be carried through to Totori where the attempt at a pathetic joke hits a brick wall with Filly. My understanding of Japanese isn't advanced enough to pick out any major issues with the dialogue translation but it seems to be fine/acceptable for the most part.

NISA is NISA. Wouldn't be right unless they made an unnecessary name change or slip in dubious lines here and there. The optimist in me hopes that they get enough of a profit with their Bleach licensing to put more money into the localisation and QA staff. It certainly bugs me to no end that the Library in Totori has a big fat typo with 'Category' being 'Cateogry'

>>8111372
Dat sleepy-eyed robomoe.

Okay played AT2 after some recommendation by a friend

>Dove into Cloche's cosmosphere for glorious Sawashiro olev
>Stayed for Infel instead

>>8109064
>>8109083
Wow.

I really am glad I got this last month right away for $25 US

>>8112895
... wow... it really is ~$250. Just as well I don't particularly like the way the faces have been modelled... My money is reserved for comp upgrades and Totori already taxed my budget

http://www.nisamerica.com/index.php?nav=n&article=pbomb/PrinnyBomb_Vol179.html

Just take my life, NISA.

And so, Meruru got announced for localization already.

It's a fine day, DDoS and all.

>>8113215

My body was not ready when I saw the news

>>8113215
Nice to see that they're turning these things around a little faster (14 months to ~9.)

>>8113258
It's actually more like 6 months. That's insane especially considering that if GUST were to release their own game mid-year this falls right in the middle of their crunch time. If you look at the credits, GUST dedicates a lot of their staffing resources towards the localisation.

I recall reading an article on Siliconera that NISA said in response to requests for faster releases behind the JPN releases that it's difficult because of GUST's schedules, the fact that GUST likes to help with the localisation in the first place and they've released Totori ~1 year after Rorona and in doing so, raised the question if it would be hasty to release the next soon after a previous one.

Last I heard, GUST was co-developing an Atelier Otome game with Compile Heart or someone like that. They probably have less of a stress load as a result of that. Question is: is anyone here going to take a serious look at that or give it a miss?

In any case, I threw my money at the screen when I saw the localisation news and the release time frame. I'll be spamming F5 on the NISA store page and THIS TIME I'm going to grab expedited shipping. I've got local and imported copies of AT3 and Totori now and my wallet isn't going to hold out for much longer like that.

>>8113438
Standard shipping normally gets things from there to me on the day they come out or before. Do they not ship before release date for everyone?

>>8113723
First thing, Australia. Second thing is that my shipments have typically never been in the first few shipping batches. For Totori, I put in for the Priority International Mail, which has a estimated shipping time of 6-10 business days. I got it at the very end (10 business days) which was nearly 3 weeks after the release date. The Express Post with guaranteed delivery was only a few dollars more than Priority. As for the AT3 CE shipment? First Class, took 6 weeks.

New thread:

>>8115104