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798053 No.798053 [Reply] [Original]

hentai game = eroge
Eroge =/= Visual novel (with or without porn)

Is that the above true? I heard many people referring to Tsukihime, Utawarerumono and Wind with being hentai games, but I think it's not right. Like the way you can't call Bible Black and Genmukan visual novels.
In my opinion visual novel means something that has an extensive story which has a bigger tone than the porn.
On the other side, eroge/hentai game is a game with bigger tone on the porn and less on the story.

What do you think /jp/? Are visual novels a seperate category inside the eroges? How do you use these words? Does the therminology clear about them?
Do you give a fuck about it?

>> No.798064

It's semantics, who cares. As long as the word isn't painfully retarded or patently wrong, I don't care. Visual Novel is fine, eroge is fine. Galge or bishoujo game makes my teeth hurt.

>> No.798073

What the OP describes is where the Porn with plot/Plot with porn thing came from.

>> No.798074

>>798053
your original equations are correct, but your justifications are not.

anything in the all-clickan-and-no-gameplay category counts as visual novels. if it contains H-scenes, it's also an eroge, which is just a shorthand for 'erotic game'.

Eroge, however, includes other genres, such as SLGs (Alicesoft did a few good ones, as did Softhouse Chara) and card/mahjong games.

>> No.798086

Visual novel is just a good word. IN JAPAN VISUAL NOVEL MEANS ONLY THE TYPE OF GAME WHERE THEY HAVE HUGE WALLS OF TEXT COVERING THE ENTIRE SCREEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? But we are not in Japan and visual novel sounds nice and it works fine.

>> No.798089

Do you like horney bunny girls 2 was the best VN i ever played. Non linear and very witty.

>Your shift is over.
>You stand in the hallway
>go to tearoom (leads to fucking Madoka)
>go to bathroom (leads to fucking Shiori)
>go to bosses office (leads to fucking boss)
>go to kitchen (leads to fucking the pinkhaired chick).

HOLY FUCK! JUST LIKE IN REAL LIFE!!!! fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap

>> No.798095
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798095

Do you like horney bunny girls 2 was the best VN i ever played. Non linear and very witty.

>Your shift is over.
>You stand in the hallway
>go to tearoom (leads to fucking Madoka)
>go to bathroom (leads to fucking Shiori)
>go to bosses office (leads to fucking boss)
>go to kitchen (leads to fucking the pinkhaired chick).

HOLY FUCK! JUST LIKE IN REAL LIFE!!!! fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap

>> No.798102

3D
ACT
ETC(その他)
RPG
SLG
STG
TBL(テーブル)
育成モノ
乙女ゲーム
KineticNovel
タイピングゲーム
VN(ビジュアルノベル)
ボーイズラブ
麻雀

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798128

>> No.798131

>>798086
>>798074
Thanks, now it makes some sense for me.

>>798102
That's a lot of category.

>> No.798185

STG is shooting game?

>> No.798191

>>798102
And what the fuck is a Table?

>> No.798211

>>798191
I think it's tabletop, like mahjong or card games.

>> No.798215

VNs will now be divided into the following categories

PORN WITH PLOT - Yume Miru Kusuri, Sagara Family, etc
PLOT WITH PORN - Tsukihime, FSN, etc

>> No.798236

Tsukihime is literature

>> No.798259
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798259

>>798215
?

>> No.798265

>>798215
>PORN WITH PLOT
>Yume Miru Kusuri

I don't feel like raging myself, but I wish to point this out for the convenience of others.

>> No.798279

>>798265
You can't seriously consider otherwise.

>> No.798281

>>798259

CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG

>> No.798282

PORN WITHOUT PLOT - Sagara Family, etc
PORN WITH PLOT - YMK
PLOT WITH PORN - Tsukihime
SHITTY PLOT WITH SHITTY PORN - FSN
PLOT WITHOUT PORN - Planetarian

>> No.798288

>>798265

Although there is plot, the porn is extreme and gratuitous enough to put it into the Porn with Plot category.

Still a good game. But come on, you fuck a girl in the ass over a garbage can.

>> No.798291

>>798282
PLOT WITH PLOT WITHOUT PORN - Ever17

>> No.798295

>>798282

/jp/ needs a graph along these lines.

If nothing else, it would be a godsend for trolls.

>> No.798302

>>798291
>PLOT WITH PLOT WITH OFF-SCREEN RAPE
There we go.

>> No.798320

>>798295
More like for the newfags who don't even know how to troll.

>> No.798339

>>798291
Wait, Ever17 has no h-scenes? Why the fuck am I playing this?

>> No.798349

>>798339
For the plot.

>> No.798351

>>798349
Oh God, it's like I'm reading Sports Illustrated for the articles!

>> No.798354

>>798349
Hirimeki went out business for a reason.

>> No.798361

I've so far found it impossible to be aroused by a single sex scene in any VN I've played. That's just two and a half so far, but still. Tsukihime may as well have not had those scenes.

>> No.798363

>>798354
Did you mean: hirameki

>> No.798374

>>798363
Never heard of them.

>> No.798381

>>798339

Because it's totally awesome.

Even if a lot of the time is spent making sandwiches.

>> No.798382

>>798374
Ask Google.
By the way, did only Hirameki close down or did KID too?

>> No.798386

>>798361

That's probably because the sex scenes in Tsukhime (And FSN) are terrible beyond all human comprehension.

>> No.798418

Pretty much. I've only played through Tsukihime, but it would have been a much better story without the gratuitous sex.

>> No.798444

I love the sex scenes of Tsukihime. I just fapped to the Hisui one.

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