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>>7957226

I'm 7957117.

Yeah, I figured it out. Once I calmed the hell down I realized I had entered the pipes in the same order about five time in a row and felt retarded.

In other news, Reimu and Marisa apparently explain hard topics to each other in interpretive dance. I hope this sprite was made only for this one scene.

Any strategy for Inner Eientei? I'm relying on Sanae's res buff to make it through, and using Satori to make it through, since there's a lot of enemies weak to dark. Working fine, but pretty mana inefficient and slow rolling. Wondering if crafting Satori's +poison damage eye and getting her a poisoning skill would work well for this stage, but I don't wanna waste the materials to find out.

>>7957323
plowing through with Marisa area stardust spells, Patchouli spellcards, occasional Mokou spell and Nitori chaser in Sonic Stream formation.
I found it harder with the physical attackers.

If you see a demon/angel, fucking run.

Looking for some suggestions regarding parties in the Lake Temple.

For party 1, I think I heard that using only Mokou and Marisa would be fine. But, I`m not sure about the others.

And is there anything in specific I should equip them for?

So, is there a monster #83? I have #82 Yukkuri, then #84 Gold Scarab, so I figured I missed something. However, when I checked the Japanese wiki Gold Scarab was #83. All the rest of my entries seem to be one higher than normal after that too.

is there an easy tip to grind some levels? i know the monsters respawn if you close the game and restart but im looking for another one

>>7957589
Continued.

Now that I've looked at it a bit more there's another time this happens in my records, after Yukkuri sisters. Both of these monsters also happen to be ones that Aya's Report did a weird no message thing I thought was a failed attempt. I wonder if it made an extra entry that I can't view?

Okay, I just got the original ISO of the game. What's the name of the expansion disk so I can download that now?

I keep running into yukkuri sisters when I'm unprepared to kill them. how fast do I need to be to hit them before they run away without using aya?

also does anyone know how many spare parts I can get from chests between youkai mountain and whenever you unlock nitori's machine cannon? I don't know if I should craft this assault rifle or not.

>>7957214
>Times Defeated 27

Oh shit nigger what are you doing? Are your characters not maxed somehow?

>>7958418
Nowhere close. I was just hunting for their drop, a +50% EXP gain item, and got lucky. It's a 1% drop so I'm pretty lucky I got it after only killing 27 of them.

These aren't even final yukkuri

>>7958435
I'm aware of the drop, but I figured you'd be so close to maximum level that it wouldn't even have a use. Unless the max level isn't 99 postgame or something.

Where is the other chest in Netherworld? Looks like it has a Sage's Staff, which would probably serve well for someone here.

Also, jesus christ are there really no maps of this game at all in the Internet

>>7958456
Not really, that brought my characters from lv 79 to 84 or something. You gain a lot from random battles too at this point so my highest level characters were level 90+.

Also, said item can then be upgraded to an +100% exp item, after which you can try to obtain another of the +50% item drop if you want, though you don't have to since it's already in the item index.

So, I`m at the Lake Temple trio. And I *WILL* learn Hyper Fang Crusher.

But the question is, how can I set up my groups to avoid the other luck-based shit I`m facing right now?

For Akame I`m just using Mokou and Marisa. I might get some poison resist stuff for them. No problems here.

The real bitch I`m having trouble with is Chihiro. I`m using Alice, Nitori, Byakuren and Sakuya. Even with death resist, blind resist, and straight up resist gear, I find that this boss fight is way too retarded. She also has a high amount of evasion. Right now I`m just using Alice to absorb her water spell and cover who I want to keep alive at the moment until I get Sakuya buffed and whatnot.

Kagami`s just... whatever, I guess Sanae can handle her buffing everyone here with Aya providing evasion support whenever I need it.

I just don`t want to end up learning HFC and then die to one of the other bosses because of some stupid shit.

>>7958720
I think you get to keep the skill even if you die as long as you let the game save

>>7958720
Actually, if you learn hyper fang crush, you should die to one of the other bosses. You keep learned skills as long as you win that battle. Go die on purpose on other bosses afterwards to be safe, just in case the game crashes in the postfight cutscene or something.

>>7958737

Ah yeah, I should`ve thought of that considering you can use these bosses to level up on, too.

Thanks a lot.

>>7958720
>Chihiro
>retarded
>high evasion

you aren't trying hard enough.

>>7958763

Wait, what.

>>7958720
I thought Akame was just a damage race. Her 1000 needles or whatever generally almost KOs you or KOs you in one shot. I normally use Sakuya with Claymore, one of her early weapons, and race her with damage. Byakuren and Mokou are there to buff and stuff I guess.
Chihiro, just use spells. Make sure to have everyone use water resist gear or shield, then you are set. Patchy and Marisa should be able to change the field to full fire and lightning and own her.
Kagami is an endurance fight, nothing impressive. I gave up on Hyper Fang Crush after 6+ hours of trying. Just not lucky enough I guess.

has anyone figured out how damage is calculated? how does a low damage spell compare to normal attacking? if youmu has 50 ind will she kill 0 res monsters 50% of the time with an instant death weapon?

Is it just me or are the postgame bosses generally bullshit? It's like they threw the strategy elements of the "main" game out the window, forcing you to repeat the same boss a dozen times until you get lucky and they don't spam their nuke attacks.

>>7959270
you mean the 8 star ones? nope, they just require better specific teams

>>7959340
I was referring more to the story bosses. The star-ranked ones usually have some gimmick that makes them easy.

>>7959340
really? which of the post game are you talking about?

Fuck it's enemies, especially that 9-man tentacle rape crew, but god damn does Inner Eientei have STYLE. The music, starry space effect, and faceless little girls running around really creates a good atmosphere.

God damn it Twei, stop spamming your nuke every other turn.
At least damage racing you was hilarious. Not as hilarious as how my completely random team managed to take 60% off Reisen's health, though, mostly on auto-attack because BERSERKER.

I think I need to sleep, but I'm sure I need to eat some rabbit stew before going to bed.

Around what level should you be going into the final boss? I'm around 60 and about to start Lithos but should I start grinding now as I'm going to have to do it anyway?

>>7959802
65+ if you're using two teams of evenly leveled characters. I leveled my characters very unevenly so I just used one team around 72-75 for it.

>>7959700
Jesus Christ, finally got done with it after ten fucking thousand Acc. Down missing, Ancient Duper hitting with 1% chance, Reisen somehow making a comeback, and other kinds of shit.
Thankfully, brute force won. Not even Sanae's RES buff was working as it should, holy shit.

Anyway, is there any better way of beating the bunnies than, for Tewi, abusing her Fire weakness as much as possible while buffing/debuffing accuracy, and for Reisen, RES UP RES UP RES UP WHY THE FUCK IS HER SHIT STILL WORKING as well as debuffing her and spamming every single powerful attack you have?

>>7959958
I just used barriers and Nitori's commander ability to block Tewi's attacks and gave Sanae anti-berserk gear so she could remove the status from everyone else.

Woo just beat Satori on my 4th try. My team was:
Alice (full tank)
Sakuya (Dagger DPS)
Aya (DPS: West Peak Sec Silver Spear which gives her 16% chance to multi-strike/Utility )
Sanae (buff bitch)
and Marisa was the nuker with her ridicuolus MATK (commander was Patch).

Here's how I beat her: Used Patchiolli's commander spell which gives 33%+ to magic for a turn. Then I had alice increase the effect of all shield. Had Aya do her Illusionary Dominance, Sanae buffed our MATK, Sakuya attacked and Marisa used Final Spark for 555dmg (it did 750+ the first try dunno why it did less later).

I kept this up until she started changing her modes and then I started blocking those elements with Alice accordingly (and also provoked her every chance I got). I also laid down a Colosso world so her mode changes wouldn't heal her PLUS the innevitable Elixir which she had up her sleeve. when she was down to 10% my colosso world ran out and I only noticed when she changed modes and healed. I panicked and used private square to set down colosso world again and to make sure she wouldn't heal herself in the middle of my turn and to also do some damage on her before I finished her off with Marisa. Awesome fight. I love this game.

Game is crashing too much during cutscenes though. Had to skip the cutscene after beating her cause i was afraid it would crash again.

wow the upper area of youkai mountain is fucking horseshit. enemies come in groups of 4-6 and they all spam the fuck out of daze so half my characters can never attack. I hit exp scaling with my main party but I'm afraid to switch to my secondary one since they'd probably just get raped.

>>7959958
Reisen is beast type, Sakuya's third sword has beast slayer. By the way Tenshi is a foreign god type of enemy.

>>7960438
Alice and cover will help immensely.

>>7960438
Use a faster formation or have anti daze gear. There is always Sonic Stream if you need first strike.

well shit I kept getting killed by kanako so I switched in sakuya to try to instant death her, but she died on the first turn. youmu activated konpaku flash at the same time though and killed kanako so I ended up winning even though sakuya was completely useless.

also is there a trick to finding yukkuris? I need to grind 50k exp on my secondary party to get them caught up. I just ran into a 2x sister group which is 6k, but I was only able to kill 1 of them.

Those elite mind flayers in Bhava-Agra can go die in a fire. Due to some Satori-related grinding, I'm a little higher level than I probably should be, and I haven't had a problem with any regular enemies for quite some time now, but those fucking mind flayers.

Also the lightning breath spam. Jesus Christ, the lightning breath spam.

>>7960772
what level are you? I've just gotten there and my main party is level 39 but I was thinking about grinding my secondary one to 37 or so and doing this stage with them.

>>7960780
I'm 43-44. I just got extremely lucky and popped off a Flying Fantastica after killing 3 yukkuris. 5000 xp, fuck yeah.

>>7960799
how much have you been going back and reclearing dungeons? I don't think just 3 yukkuris accounts for that many levels since 2x yukkuri sisters is 6060 exp and that's barely one level at 39.

>>7960814
Going back to old dungeons is not the way to gain xp. If you can, try to farm in the current dungeon, if you are below level, you get xp bonuses.

>>7960772
I think the oar fish will use lightning breath as a counter on you if you use a skill on them. I remember getting wiped when I tried to cast an multi-target spell on them.

>>7960814
Oh I meant just then, it got me from 43 to 44. I did a fair amount of grinding in the Garden of Sun looking for Satori skills, but I've been neglecting my B party, so that's probably why I'm that high level.

>>7960877
Yeah, I've learned that physical attacks are the way to go on them. I've got 75% electric resist gear on almost everyone and that thunder breath still rapes.

What's the average level for the team during Netherworld?

Judging by how, apparently, most gear is dropped at a 5% rate, I think I'm going to grind for a few days. Eientei was somewhat tough for my magic team (although hilariously easy with my physical team) and Akyu doesn't seem to want to give me more recipes, so maybe it would help a bit.
Crafting what I can so far doesn't seem like a good idea, because it looks like the next tier of armors is essentially a direct upgrade over what I can make. Some of the weapons seem nice, so I'm most likely going to make at least Sakuya's third sword, since it feels like her damage is getting far behind everyone's.

Also, Satori hasn't really been too useful so far, even though I have all skills from the first five stages. Her damage doesn't seem to be getting anywhere, eyeballs apparently suck (if I'm not using physical skills at least), her growth tree is horrible if you're not feeling like spamming statuses... maybe I'm using her wrong.

I'm having problems getting the game to go fullscreen properly. Whenever I try it(Both using the config and by using alt+enter on the window), the screen stays the same size as the window, with black borders covering the rest of the screen.

>>7961025
for Satori, she's more of a defense support for spamming defensive skills and heals, but if you want some offensive you might want to pick up vacuum wave and that other similar skill.

>>7961059
it's weird, but try setting "Run in 640 x 480" in compability plus fullscreen via alt+enter

>>7961059

Change DXFullScreen to Yes in Game.ini

DXFullScreen=Yes

So, is there a certain condition that needs to be fulfilled before Kagami uses Hyper Fang Crusher? I got her to low health a few times and I haven`t even seen her use the skill yet. I`ve even just waited for her to kill me, and nothing.

>>7961364

Nevermind. Looks like she needs to be above half health. Or at least that`s what this testing has told me.

Anyone know what "+x% elemental strength" in various growth trees means? I thought for a while it was just damage, but Marisa clearly has both that and a +elemental damage.

I'm guessing it has something to do with land value or enemy weakness but I'm not sure.

Anything new patch wise since the 5th thread?

Looks like fun, I've just finished downloading everything.

The latest patches in the OP?

I recall in a previous thread a link to maps of the various stages with some of the more easily missed chests shown. Looked around on the japanese wiki but not seeing a stage-by-stage listing. Mainly want to see where I've managed to miss some of the character specific synthesis items.

The boss encounters remind me of my raiding days in WoW.

>>7961835
>You face not Margatroid alone, but the legions I command!

>>7961160
where do you get that?

anyone got the link to the japanese wiki?

>>7961933
http://www26.atwiki.jp/touhou_souzin/

is it easier to get earthquake from those rock things from garden of the sun or catfish on youkai mountain?

>>7961984
the brown things from the garden iirc they appearing there

>>7961984
Which one appears more often?

I just got to the Netherworld.

This isn't the Gensokyo I know and love.

>>7962054
The Netherworld was probably my favorite dungeon so far. Awesome atmosphere and style, especially with the parallel between the upper and lower parts, and the music sounds like what Eversion's music always wanted to be.

does anyone know what the breathless strikes skill actually does? those giants on youkai mountain have it but I don't know if I want to waste time trying to learn it.

>>7962966
slayer effect vs "Tsukomogami"

they use it on whoever has the lowest HP in the party, so satori will get hit by it a lot anyway.

for a move like fang crush that hits one target but can also hit a secondary target, does satori have to be the original target or can she learn it as long as it hits her at all?

damn this shit is gay. I've killed 5 yukkuris and accidentally learned a 1% move but can't get this 5% move.

>>7963247
What move? Some attacks have level requirements to learn.

>>7963586
samidare cut from the demons in garden of the sun. it says level 20 required and I'm level 36. it's really annoying since I ended up learning demon shock but I can't get this shit.

Don't die.

Take it easy.

EXPERT THREAD MANAGEMENT

How do I make the staff fairy in the Garden of the Sun cast Mass Heal on me? I already tried charming it, but it just kept whacking itself.

>>7964067
Have you tried Control yet? Satori's LW and Byakuren can do it.

>>7964186
Control doesn't allow you to use some monster skills. That includes most support spells.

alright I finally got most of the satori skills I wanted. now I just need dragon breath, starlight barrier, vaccuum blade, and punish the judgment. I don't think any of those are possible to learn until way later though.

>>7964067
you have to use charm on it when it has low health, or you have low health or something

>>7964067
You can always wait until Heaven. I believe one of the enemies have it on their list as a castable spell when controlled. Mass Heal isn't that good, so it doesn't really matter if you get it or not.

>>7961814
The closest thing I found was a mention to the walkthrough on the Japanese wiki, which has only some maps.

Where is the silver chest in the forest of magic? And is there anything worthwhile in it?

>>7962020
>>7961984
Seconding this.

>>7964954

Which part of the wiki is it under? I'm resorting to the google translate so I'm probably missing it.

In case it doesn't help, here's a general question: Should I have 3 of every character's specific weapon synthesis material by the time I finish stage 7? Been wanting to just upgrade veryone's weapon to the one that requires two of each charracter-specific item but for some characters I only have 1 item.

>>7964995
The charts or something one. You'll know it's the right link if you click it and a list of all stages comes up, too lazy to go click it and copy the exact name for you.
Crafting everything you can isn't too good of an idea, as the materials are RARE and most of them don't really add much. I suggest using the Wiki to read info on what bonus the craftable things you can make give, and even then only making them if those bonuses are amazing or if they'd really help you. For example, the all but one of Alice's graves are useless (and Rainbow Greaves are only useful for the additional resistances).

By the way, Sakuya told me I need to grind some levels after SURPRISE DIFFICULTY JUMP! in Inner Eientei. how do i do that

>>7965094
Sakuya is a moron. Dump 25 points in Sanae's buff tree and use her RES buff at the start of every battle, use Mokou to tank and silence moon maidens with her tier 3 fists, and hit weaknesses when you can.

>>7965094
magic users have it easy in Eientei. They area nuke everything before they can do as much as cough.
Doesn't work so well later on, regrettably.

Just in case this gets out of hand.

>>7965094

Thanks, I've been looking mostly under the MAPs section which, despite google translate, did not have maps under it.

Bleh, looks like I'm missing a handful of chests. Guess I'll start grinding the dungeons again to find things I'll probably never use.

I just have zero patience for skill farming with Satori. It's a shame because I love the idea of blue mage characters but trying to farm skills makes the game become aggressively un-fun.

>>7964230
>>7964295
Thanks for the help!

Is it possible to finish this game without using more than 6 characters? What characters would be the best choice?

I beat Iku and got to stage 14. Then died there and now I have to fight all these battles again? And why are the doors closed and the chests refilled suddenly? Is this a strange bug or can I actually farm the shit out of this itemwise?

Wow, Eirin and Kaguya. They don't seem to hit too often, or too hard (unless it's Apollo Fucking 13), but Eirin never dies and I'd rather not kill Kaguya first, as she seems to be taking it too easy.
I have some kind of plan in mind, but it's most likely not going to stop the fight from taking forever.

>>7966585
The fuck? Did you keep your items from the first run through?

>>7966562
It's POSSIBLE, I guess, but not recommended at all.

>>7966598
Kill Eirin first. She revives Kaguya if you kill her.

>>7966585

Unless you make it out of the dungeon alive, you don't keep the items you found inside.

Usually a good idea to exit/enter after you get a page or so of items, or if you get a character specific crafting item drop from youkai.

The youkai shouldn't respawn though, just a lot of running around for the chests, generally.

>>7966615
>>7966628
Let me explain. I entered stage 13 and opened a few chests then left to restore the health of my party.

Then I entered the stage again, opened a few chests, beat Iku and re-entered the stage again.

After that I went back into stage 14 and and died.

Now all of the chests from the very first run are empty, but all of the ones in the second one where I beat Iku are refilled and I still have these items in my inventory.

All doors/switches are reset and I even need to find the golden key again.

Is there a shortcut coming up or will I be forced to deal with this mess everytime I die in stage 14?

Grinding my party up to finish off the last boss. Bout to hit the expansion and I'm wondering if it has it's own random encounter music. The first one never got old, but I'm pretty tired of the second version already.

>>7966852
I sure hope so. I got sick of the second music by the time I finished Youkai Mountain.

>>7966852
>>7966857
Yep, though only on new stages I think. But you first have to do character quests before you can move on to the new stages.

Surprise attack.
Now, game, that's just unfair.

Finally got done with Eirin and Kaguya - my own idea of overpowering them and abusing Alice's column blocking didn't work because Alice decided to be useless today, and Kaguya's defense buff kind of completely ruined my chances of dealing much damage per turn while Sakuya Colosseos it up. So I decided to try an even stronger power creep, with land/Sanae's attack buffs/Byakuren's attack buffs/elemental weapon buffs and couldn't resist dat Makai Temptation, so that run ended up being hilariously easy. It almost ended with Kaguya gunshotting herself as well.

And lastly, what's up with this endgame feel ever since that fight? The battle music changed. IT CHANGED. WHAT THE HELL.

Ah yeah, what can I grind on for Mt. Youkai Rocks? I think I want to go apeshit on crafting, so I need about six of them for now.

>>7966955
God that encounter is such huge bullshit.

>>7966955
>>7966973
those things only have 100 hp so reimu's amulet spells can kill them ez

>>7967113
This group always ambushes you. You never get a chance to attack.

Ugh, I'm getting turned around in stage 7 looking for whatever chests I'm missing, if I'm even missing anything in this stage. Probably a chest where only 1/10th of the chest is visible.

>>7967132

On the plus side I've gotten some lucky synthesis material drops.

>>7967132
Stage 7 is Netherworld, right? Tell us if you find a silver chest lying around, there's this spare key in my inventory since forever.

>>7966259
The english Touhou wiki does not have maps, but it does have screenshots of hidden chests that you may miss.

>>7966654
That sounds like a bug. I never had a time where chests reappear and I kept my items.

>>7966955
If you have good defense or blunt resistance, that encounter is not too difficult. Youmu has high enough accuracy to hit them and they will likely die in one hit.

>>7967161

Stage 7 is Muenzaka, stage 6 is Netherworld. I remember having a spare silver key in Netherworld for a long fucking time. Wouldn't be surprised if I'm missing a chest there too, looking up character specific synth items showed that I was missing a crow's feather for Aya.

Back to the silver chest thing though. There's one located in the underworld part and one in the heaven part. I think the heaven one is encountered first, though you can miss it if you don't fully explore the zone it's in before moving on. The underworld one is pretty easy to get, it's rto the right before you enter the last gold key door.

>>7967172
Killing them isn't the problem, it's the nine powerful attacks you have to tank.
I've had those fuckers plow right through a tanked-out Mokou and still have enough attacks left over to rape the rest of my party.

>>7967172

>The english Touhou wiki does not have maps, but it does have screenshots of hidden chests that you may miss.

Really? What section is this under?

>>7967199
Well, it only has screen shots of hidden chests though. So, for example, this link: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Walkthrough/Stage_12 has screenshots of 2 hidden chests.
It would be under the walk through section.

>>7967292

Dang, guess the chests I'm missing aren't hidden enough.

>>7967193
Alice can probably tank it if her shield activates enough times

>>7967350
But none of the other encounters are hard enough to warrant Alice weighing your party down.

>>7967193

If being ambushed by this group is that much of a problem, put Aya in your group and put 25 points into her Air War tree.

>>7967366
yeah that's true, so the best way would be to switch in aya with prevent ambush and an axe for 1 of your physical attackers

>>7967386
But Aya is almost as much dead weight as Alice.
...I can't believe I just said that.

>>7967366
Well, you can always change your formation. If I'm not wrong that formation looks like Hinotori Skydance. Quite a dangerous formation to use if you fight those guys, because if they target your other guys not in the middle, they take extra damage. Change to one that doesn't hurt your defense as much. Like Luna Dial, Sunshine Lunch, Poison Shield, etc.
Sakuya, Youmu and Mokou all have fairly solid defense, so if you change your formation, you should be able to handle the surprise attack.
The one time I got wiped against them was when I did not realize that you cannot run from them. I was trying to meet some specific enemies and well, I failed to run twice, and yeah, by the time I realized that the net thing is stopping me from running away, it was too late.

is the treasure collection % including drops from monsters or is it only chests? I'm pretty obsessive about completely exploring dungeons but I seem to be missing some.

>>7967729
Only chests. The most likely chests you first missed are probably in the forest of magic. You also may have missed Raiden's shield, the low level eletric shield.

Keep taking it easy.

are there any moves that ignore resist levels?

>>7967881
I'm at chapter 21 and so far I haven't seen any moves that don't get resisted. There is the sword that ignores slash resistance, but it cannot ignore solid star slash resistance. There are also growth trees that lower resistance too, like Sakuya's two-handed tree. Patchouli's Big Bang is void type, so I guess you can't resist that. It is probably affected by magic defense though.

So Iku is weak to dark
guess what buff Byakuren gets right after I level up against her. The 666 hp regen really annoyed the shit out of me.

>>7967392
I found she makes a quite effective dodge-tank. Add in magic-def like with a crescent shield, and she will do fine in Hinotori Skydance

Stage 14 leaves me speechless.
Slash of Spring Wind in Saigyouji is the only thing to save me, and that needs two bombs.

Fucking shields. How do they work?

>>7968335
Not entirely sure, but from the info I gathered, it works something like this:
EVA = chance of the shield to activate.
Stuff listed on the shield like SLA/STA/STK means the shield can block those things. The chance of activation would be whatever EVA is.
PDF = when the shield activates that is how much extra PDF you gain to defend against that attack.
This applies to all other statistics, like MDF, RES, etc.
Now, there are funny icons, like Circle, Triangle, Star, etc. From the wiki, those icons will either increase or decrease the chance of the shield triggering.That seems to coincide with what I see in the game.
Circle is better chance than whatever the EVA lists.
Solid Circle, even better chance than Circle.
Double Circle, even better than Solid Circle.
Triangle is worse chance than listed.
Solid Triangle is even worse than Triangle.

>>7968586
Oh yeah, obviously you need to use a weapon that is not two-handed for the shield to activate.

>>7968586
Do shields only activate when you choose defend as your action (or if you have pre/post-defend)?

>>7968596
Doesn't the "defend" command let the shield activate even with two-handed weapons?

>>7968596
that's not true. you can trigger shield effects with Alice's shield skills.

>>7968604
Shields will continue to activate unless you use a two-handed weapon during THAT turn.

Christ, this felt better than any Lunatic 1cc
And I did it without the walkthrough

those bird girls in stage 15 are truly hilarious.
And yield retarded amounts of xp. Fuck yukkuris.

>>7966963
Looks like those crows drop them, but at what rate? The Japanese wiki doesn't have that piece of information and the wiki in English doesn't even list them.

Anyway, is there any decent way to get a good amount Youkai Mt. Rocks that don't drop at 0.1%?

>>7969223
are they really that rare? I must have retard luck, because just by half-avoiding the enemies in stage 13/14 I got about 3-4 rocks

pretty much none whatsoever in 11/12 though.

Just started Muenzuka. Dungeon looks (and sounds) boring. I hope there will be more dungeons with awesomeness as great as the Ancient Hell.

Also, is there anything important in this area? I know the gold scarab drops Magic Mushroom throught the happiest way possible.

>>7969252
>Dungeon looks (and sounds) boring.
yeah? I thought it was one of the more intriguing places, with the junk piled next to the spider lilies and cherry tries. And that Higan Retour arrange is one of my favorites for sure

How do I beat Youmu and Yuyuko?
I killed Yuyuko, but then she insta-gibbed the whole party on death.

>>7969267
>KNICKS
way to be a fag

>>7969267
Save Yuyuko for last and have Alice cover someone with London dolls during the turn she casts that insta death.

>>7969272
I bet you don't even lift.
Suck my cock, dude.
Am I cool now?

>>7969252
I feel the same way. I was mildly intrigued by what the enemies would look like at first, but even that has worn off after the second battle.

And contrary to what the walkthrough on the wiki said, I kept getting lost in those same-looking brown walls. And crashing (losing my precious item drops).

Even the final boss (that went down on the first attempt).... I've spent far more time equipping the entire party, expecting a drawn-out battle, than I did on the actual fight.....

>>7969281

Is it me, or does Reimu needle spell get really bad after stage 5?

>>7969295
the holy attacker role gets passed on to Byakuren/Satori
a Fantasy Heaven or two are still fun to throw in

>>7969274
Thanks, bodied that scrubby salt bitch.

Huh, Gamer Fan's address in cheat engine seems to be the same as Iron, Rock, Bamboo or Celestial Peach.

I wonder if the effects stacks? 5 charactrers with gamer fan should make farming easier.

>>7969062
This is powerfarming!

>>7969325

Hmm, the addresses for the materials keep changing randomly. The address I first used became useless now. Also, Magic Medal replaced Celestial Peach.

Hopefully I won't have to do this again, else this will give me one hell of a headache.

>>7969303
I'm in the post-game and Reimu is still the best consistant light attacker excluding bomb skills. She requires a ton of points to be 'usable' in my opinion though as Reimu + Sanae in one party is just too much for me unless the mobs are crazy light weak. You need 25 in barriers and 25 in spirit attack for her as the minimum. Preferably 70+ points.
I usually keep Sanae for my magic/elemental parties and Reimu for my melee parties as a personal rule of thumb.

>>7969252
What I disliked the most about it was how it didn't have Kogasa, or any karakasa at all. What were those out-of-battle sprites for, then?!

>>7969233
>just by half-avoiding the enemies in stage 13/14 I got about 3-4 rocks
>pretty much none whatsoever in 11/12 though.
...oh well, looks like I'll have to wait a bit more, then.

By the way, is the best way of raping everything manipulating the land? Shit gets hilarious when I have Patchouli and Marisa on my team.

>>7969400
>land
sometimes you're pretty much forced to do that. The bosses will have stupid HP regen and attack power otherwise

>>7969400
Until you get to the temple the easy mode is just chasing Nitori. Patchy + Sanae + Satori can do a 3 chase that kills almost every party in one turn. No bombs, can fight 40-50 battles before having to hit the save point.

Land manipulation is for bosses.

Is the AP Shield worth crafting? I'm afraid of throwing away good materials on something that will become useless.

>>7969421
>Chaser
Weird, I can barely ever get its damage past 200 even with favorable land (then again I might be remembering some things wrong). Almost maxed elemental skill tree, Carbine, damage buff rings for both Elec and Fire, as well.

How do I kill yukkuri? These things are taking 0 damage from almost everything I throw at them before they run.

>>7969496
You need either high-power physical attacks or Yukkuri Slash (Youmu) to deal at most 2 damage, and even then hope they don't use Run.

By the way, is it only me or are Aya's fans mostly useless? Looks like she can dish out much more damage with a decent spear or a sword, as msot of them don't have any useful bonuses (maybe those EVA+ help a bit, though). In fact, even her personal armors seem to be horrible. why aya

>>7969518
Aya always seems to get the short end of the stick in these doujin games. Isn't it sad?

>>7969496
multi-hit physical attacks are the way to go

>Money from yesterday; -2 Spellcasters
>Price of Life; -1 Mokou
>Shinigami's Scythe; -1 Sakuya

Jesus, why are so cruel to me Komachi? At least let me spend my bombs. ;_;

>>7969565
1. Debuff her accuracy with Satori or Byakuren
2. Buff your evasion with Sanae
3. Enjoy still getting hit because the RNG hates you-- I mean, never being hit by her again

>>7969586
reducing her attack and buffing your defense was the safer option for me.
But there will be another boss soon who needs his accuracy fixed

Am I the only one that practically never uses Alice, Satori, or Byakuren? I found debuffers in general to be crappy (except for Reisen).

>>7969670

Out of those, I only use Satori, and only as a damage dealer since she's been comparable to Marisa lately.

>>7969670
Alice isn't a debuffer, she's a tank. The best tank in the game, in fact.

>>7969670
For random battles? I don't either.
For bosses? Byakuren's debuff skills are level 2. Stacking -def, -atk, and -res/ind with -p/m atk and -p/m def with Reisen is crippling on top of her getting off a few 80k+ hits. stacking with Mokou's -ind punch can make bosses have almost zero chance to hit you with any effects.

Never really used Alice or Satori though except for a the long survival dungeon in the post game.

>>7969703
I know, I just included her because she also seems really popular.

>>7969670
satori is the best.

>>7969773
Holy shit!

>>7969773
it must be the loli factor. Just look at that skirt.

>>7969773
Her usefulness is about exponential of how many autismpoints you're willing to dedicate to Learning.
Too bad I can only see those 1% and give up.

>>7969773
is that the flare attack from that 8 star foreign god demon?

>>7969811

With learning maxed though, wouldn't 1% learn chance rates become 3%?

Don't worry about the chance of learning an attack. You'll learn it when you learn it; knowing the odds is just going to make it feel like more of a grind.

>>7969907

While that's true, people might be worried that their Blue Mage Satori will be worthless forever because she doesn't learn anything unless they grind. Mine turned out fine without grinding fortunately, but some people have worse luck.

>>7969852
Anything less than 50% is pretty much 0% for me. Even 50% feels like 10%.
>>7969938
The problem with Satori, as I see, is how she doesn't learn any other skills than the debuffs and the blue magic. I want her to be cute in my team, but it takes too much work (and you even need to spend a lot of points to get her MATK/ATK+30 as well, or else she'll do jackshit for damage).
Maybe I wasn't meant to love her.

Speaking of Satori, I am currently on my grind to get Hyper Fang Crush and holy shit this shitty maid never uses it.

>>7969956

Yeah, it takes a lot of dedication to use her, even if you don't grind. I've had her in my party since I got her, and seeing her die over and over certainly made me sad. But eventually something kicked in, she started getting stronger and stronger, and she could even stay in boss fights and be pretty useful as well. It takes some patience, certainly.

So how about evasion! Too bad, Sonic whatever has high accuracy and you're going to die in the first turn anyway.
Jesus Christ.

Not pictured: Momiji getting two turns and spamming Slasher later on, obviously doing you know what.

just finished Hina, still no new weapons. when does the ultimate weapon/armor as well as the last bunch of equipment appear anyways?

Dumb question: I downloaded all the parts but they all look like the same file... Is the media fire link wrong?

I have 5 separate files each with its own application and identical files.

>>7970237
Seeing how I had to walk all the fucking way back whenever they beat me, I decided that ragequitting and trying again if Perfect Freeze hit everyone was the best idea.
Somehow dealt with the whole fight by stuffing lava into Momiji's doggy ass first, and seeing Cirno try her hardest to do 50 damage thanks to Patchouli being herself.
Also, Sakuya with as many buffs as possible (including Sakuya's World) is a beautiful thing to see.

>>7970257
You only need to extract one part when you have them all. It automagicly uses the other parts when they are together to extract the whole game.

The game crashes invariably during the initial cutscene. How can I make it work?

>>7970295
you can switch around between windows 95, xp sp2 compatibility mode, hit your head against it until it works, or skip it

>>7968696
Of course you can trigger shield blocks when using Marrionette Parrar or similar skills, because you are using Alice's shield, NOT the character's shield.

>>7969518
Aya evasion seems to get pretty high. She can safely dodge lots of enemy attacks.

I'm preparing for the final fight and want to give my Satori a cool and useful move set. Learning Area Heal is by far the most annoying thing I've done in this game so far.
Where the fuck is the ideal place to learn this? Do I really have to control these buddha bitches on the turn they use the move?

What are some good single target and aoe nukes to give her? Does her stats matter more than the actual move, or are some moves weaker than others?

>>7970584
For single target, you can learn all the basics from the fairy maid mages in SDM.
AoE is more all over the place. You'll want mind blast for sure, and probably an AoE of each element. There's a lot of different options for the latter.

So, how exactly do Byakuren and Mokou join you if you don't recruit them early on?

Does poison mist deal enough damage to be a reliable earth AoE?

>change compatibility to 95
>click
>black screen, goes back to main desktop

Fuck this gay earth.

>>7970701
Did you install it while in japanese locale? Are you in japanese locale now? Do you have DirectX 9?

anyone know if you can learn skills if you use reimu's super deplex barrier

>>7970719

No, no I'm not. I do have Direct X9.

When I play GS I don't seem to have any problems with the Japanese locale, or any other translated program. This is the first time I've had a problem like this.

>>7970733
GS?

>>7970717
I recently did, but don't take my word for it. I just recall protecting Satori learning a move and taking 0 damage while doing it, I'm not sure if I was protecting against something else and she just happened to take 0 damage.

>>7970740

Grief Syndrome, Madoka Magica doujin game, anyways I do not have Eastern Languages set up on my PC.

Oh happy day for me. Now to find my XP install CD.

>inb4 he uses XP and not Vista/Win 7

>>7970745
You could probably find it online or something. I couldn't, but I suck.

>He uses XP and not Vista/7
You're smart. I should never have let myself be convinced to "upgrade" to this piece of shit.

>>7970761

Not smart, just don't have the specs to do it. This PC is 5 or 6 years old.

Who thought that making doublecasted skills by a small chance use MP again was a good idea? And here I thought this equipment would be a nice way of being stingy.
Not going to complain about the extra damage, though. Sakuya is now a 15% more efficient murder machine.

>>7970657
It damn better.
5% my entire ass. Satori's been inhaling these mists for hours and still nothing. Fucking petro breath was faster than this.

>>7970767

Huh, I thought her equipment only increased the chance for her multi-hit attacks to hit more, not gave a chance to use it twice. Maybe it is worth using over the generic armor I find in dungeons.

>>7970774
Oh. I already know it.

...damn.

>>7970780
What's weird is that even Sakuya has a 2H-sword skill for automatic double attacks (and I obviously have it), she never doublecasts skills unlike both Youmu and Mokou. She's only started doing that after I got the Elegant Maid Dress or something like that.
Oh, if only this game had any kind of MP battery... Byakuren's command spell is nowhere nearly enough.

excuse me but who is the girl in the posting. I've seen her on YouTube before. just a question. sorry im a /b/tard
picture unrelated

>>7970806

Sakuya's double hit from the two handed sword tree is different than Mokou and Youmu's. It says that her normal attacks have a chance to hit twice, while for Mokou and Youmu it says their physical abilities have a chance to hit twice. Anyways, I guess I may as well make that dress if I have the materials, I thought it was worthless compared to the generic stuff because it didn't give magic defense or any other benefits like extra bombs.

this game crashes when I try to get into the growth tree, and whenever I look at the stats of more then one character the numbers become weirdly super-imposed and impossible to read.

>>7970870
Is your game version 2.06?

>>7970883
maybe not. I just downloaded it from some shady dl site on google. I'll try a fresh install.

Well, I'm at the Lakebed Temple, and I have no idea what to do with Youmu in regular encounters anymore. The encounter are just short enough to not warrant a stance, but then she blows. Meanwhile, Sakuya is just cleaning up.

Side note, am I right to assume that petrify is a Quick effect? Permanent and Variety cures don't seem to do anything.

>>7970870

1. Enable Japanese Locale
2. Run game in Win95 compatibility
3. Get Directx9

Those three things solve nearly every problem.

>>7970237
how the fuck are you getting soul sculpture to hit for 5k at that stage? the most damage I've done is around 2.5k with crit spring wind slash and I have youmu's attack as high as I can get it.

>>7971101
It's possible to deal that kind of damage with a specific setup.

>>7971134
like what? like I said my youmu was only doing half that with her 2 bomb move + asura strength + physical attack buff with 266 base attack.

>>7971101
I think I had Sakuya's World + Byakuren's attack buff + Sanae's party attack buff + maximum fire land + Patchouli's fire land buff + fire endow on Sakuya, or something like that. Needless to say, that's not the kind of thing you can get going all the time...
If only I had realized earlier that the real threat in that battle is Momiji, things would have gone so much more smoothly.

>>7971172
Maneater dagger, fire enchant, fire land to maximum, buffs, critical hit. that's about 500% damage boost. Sakuya can add more damage with Heatwave amulet (10%) plus attack accessories.

>>7971210
and forgot to add Sakuya World, which literally DOUBLES damage, you can one-shot Cirno with that setup.

>>7971210
>>7971217
I'm pretty sure you only get Maneater Dagger some time after that battle, though, unless it's a random drop from something around there.

>>7971221
i just realized that.

Is there any way to stop the Stage 26 boss from full healing every time they get even remotely low on HP, or do I have to pray they don't use it?

>>7971257
use Sakuya's world skill that negates healing but it means you can't heal too so be careful

>>7971172
Fire + Mage slayer anything alone will get that much. Otherwise you can stack def down + p.def down, atk up from Byakuren (lvl 2), amp scroll / sakuya world with enfire + max fire land and the field buff.
Or you can just do a rage 8 with enfire and just pray for 4-5 to hit her for 3-4k a pop. You could probably buff Nitori enough to one shot her with concentrated fire even.

>>7970813
That double physical combined with double ailment chance makes Mokou an invaluable support if you plan to use Reisen in non-boss battles and very good at shutting down almost all dangerous mobs for the main game.
Something gonna use a breath to one shot you? Mach Punch with Blind glove says nope.

>>7971308
Right, I forgot about that one. It'll still be hard to shave off one third of their health without healing though. Sakuya can barely hurt it to boot.

>>7971313
>Something gonna use a breath to one shot you? Mach Punch with Blind glove says nope.

This saved my ass so many times, as did the silence glove.

Just finished stage 8. Seems like a lot of useful armor and weapons can be made at this point, even things I'd be using late in the game (Mokou's Magnum Fist especially). Now a good time to start grinding sunflower seeds and making stuff or just keep hoarding character-specific stuff for that next tier fix?

>>7971319
well i wouldn't know as i am starting that stage as well and havent reach the boss yet, but looking at the jp wiki it looks like its one of those to deal damage to the boss you need to kill it's minions that are on the field with it type

>>7971408
Sunflower seeds are pretty common, actually - just by beating everything in your way and finding all chests you should have enough of them to make all weapons you want to. In case you don't, though, I think they drop pretty often from the obvious sunflowers.

By the way, is there any sprite rip of this game? This game has probably the best (and prettiest) sprites I've seen in a long time.

On a side note, Garden of the Sun has the best music in the game.

>>7972022
It's funny how Stage 3 (Forest) has a nice, calm feeling, while the revisiting in stage 15 gives it a mushroom-junkie psychodelic vibe

>>7972015
http://www.mediafire.com/?tm8f2p8iyf1sucn
http://www.mediafire.com/?ve4au7h87hfnmvx

I was planning on playing this, but no Koishi for my team is a deal breaker for me.

I'm still far from that place, but I gotta say the BGM for stage 20 is sweet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t04Nep46MQ0

That feel when you've been F12'ing Kagami battles for hours and Satori still doesn't know Hyper Fang Crush.

It hurts. I used to finish off the battle to at least get EXP but it's gotten to the point where I don't even care anymore.

>>7972762
what does it even do? is it worth learning for any reason other than autism?

>>7972892
It's a multi-hit slash attack that can hit for a total of 2-4 times. It's pretty shitty but I've been grinding for it simply because it's the only move you only have one chance to get. If you can't be bothered (and if I hadn't already put this much time into it, I wouldn't either) then you really won't be missing much.

Sweet, got Mass Heal on my first try. Well, not really "try", since I used Satori's Last Word out of desperation. She and the Sunflower Fairy were the only ones still standing.

Now, if only Petro Breath was as easy. Oh well, first I need to find the goddamn healing circle in this fucking maze of flowers.

>>7973026
sadly, Mass Heal is not very good. Stage 11/12 has monk dudes who will cast Refresh, which is cheap and good.

>>7973034

Yeah, I've read the comments. But hey, I'm not one to refuse free skills, specially if they are healing skills. At least I can grin Satori better with this.

I just began playing this game. If I kill an enemy, does everyone of my party (9 members) receive the EXP and POW points or so and not just 6 of them? And what would be a good setup against Alice? I'm grinding at the moment for the fight.

Jesus Christ, where the fuck am I supposed to go in this damn flower labyrinth? I've already pulled the lever to deactivate the colorless geyser, but that doesn't matter since I can't find my way to Yuuka.

>>7973222

Oh wait, I think I found the right path. Just opened a chest with the Insect Killer dagger. This is the way I'm supposed to go, right?

No only who fights receive EXP/POW.

Regarding Alice, just remember to keep at least one doll alive and never use an attack with the doll's element on her, else the counter will hurt you. Also, Sakuya's Colosseo World can stop Alice from regenerating and healing her dolls, just eb careful cause you won't be able to heal either.

Running in Japanese Local, have direct X9 and running on Windows 95 capability yet I still get a black screen and it sends me back to my desktop.

The urge to play this game is killing me.

I hate my computer.

>>7973234
Why bother trying to keep one alive? She's stronger with dolls alive and a pushover without them. Just burn through them all; it's funner that way anyway.

>>7973234
>No only who fights receive EXP/POW.

Actually, everyone, regardless of whether they're in your party or not, receives POW. The only difference is that those who aren't in the fighting party receive less POW than the others (I believe they receive 50%?). This can easily be verified by checking the POW of a non-partied character, fighting a monster, then checking again.

Oh my god I dreamed that you could recruit Shikieiki.
Maybe I'm not playing this game nearly enough.

>>7973234
>just remember to keep at least one doll alive
Is that the best idea? I was getting a little frustrated because Alice kept spamming more dolls after I killed the last wave of them, but I think that when I killed all three doll patterns she stopped summoning them and just died peacefully. Maybe I was lucky, or maybe that's how you should do it.
Also, never kill Alice if there's any doll lying around, unless you like explosions.

>>7973228
Yeah, that's the right direction.
>>7973143
No, only members who fight (and their commander) receive exp/pow. However, there is no penalty for death, so they'll still get their share.

>>7973420
I'm sure everyone gets Pow, actually, as when you get 1000 Pow from a boss fight everyone you have gets one growth point.
Exp, however, doesn't work like that.

thinking of getting kusanagi, what's the best place to farm iron? i am in the expansion

>>7974054

From random chests across various dungeons.

I kid, I kid. I've had some experience with the Sunflower Field, can't remember which monster dropped it though. Probably one of the fairies, since there are fairies almost everywhere and they dropped the basic materials in SDM and Forest of Magic.

>>7974054
The snakes in Youkai Mountain seem to drop it for me every other battle.

>>7974087
>>7974093
guess i'll just run thru all the dungeons again as i basically missed out on tons of drops around the middle of pre-expansion

>>7973632
They get a fraction of it. 1/2 or so, and thank god. Getting 99 pow for everyone was grueling and I used the power spear for every non boss fight.

I have 2 silver keys left over from the SDM and I'm getting buttfrustrated because I can't find their chests. Does anybody know where they are?

>>7974906
kindly butthurt you will find those chest almost the end of the game, so dont bother right now.

>>7974925
Thanks.

>>7974925
>>7974995
What. I'm pretty sure those chests can be found fairly easily.

>>7974925
>>7975032

There are stairs leading to another floor. It's a narrow corridor with the chests. IIRC, you can reach these stairs right on the firt area.

Question about weapons: There's conflicting information about the Carbine. The game shows it to be a slayer weapon for Transcendants (Celestials?)/Warriors/Magicians whereas the wiki says it only has Warriors/Magicians. Which is correct? I don't want to waste mats on making this weapon if it's the next tier weapon with the extra slayer.

>>7975735
The Japanese wiki lists it with the three slayer effects, so it's correct in game.

>>7975735

Carbine does have Transcendent slayer.

Transcendents are things like Mind Flayers, Werewolves, and Minotaurs. When you target something, if it has a goat head it's a Transcendent.

>>7975775
>>7975768

Sweet. I'm assuming her chaser power will also increase if used against slayer types.

I read that you can level off the three maids while autism hyper fang crush grinding, but I was expecting them to give a little more than 3k exp. It barely feels worth the time it takes to reform parties for another try.

Is the formation you get from Tenshi after getting ass-raped 101 times worth it?

>>7975796
ass raping and farming yukkuris is much faster for exp. you are better off trying to get the skill to save yourself time. and tenshi formation isn't really good.

>Windows 95 capability
>DirectX9 is installed
>Jap locale

Could anyone help me out? I click on the icon and then I get a black screen and then back to desktop.

>>7975871
you needed to be in jap locale before you extracted it

>>7975886

Well shit, I didn't know that.

>>7975735
if you see any inconsistency in the wiki, you should probably let us know because it's hard to get the information presented uniformly since other people are editing the wiki as well and there will be hits and misses especially the translation.

i'll correct any bad information if someone sees inconsistencies.

>>7975886

Just extracted it while in Jap Locale. Still nothing.

>>7975871

I'm guessing no one can help?

>>7976032

When this happened to me I restarted my comp and it worked.

Jesus fuck Patchy, stop dying! Get your shit together! Having a real shitty time with this game, making slow progress. Don't get me wrong, I love the game, but grinding is a pain with many of your Touhous dying or running out of MP every few fights. ;_;

>>7976142

Make her the commander of your party if you're having that much trouble keeping her alive. She'll get full exp/pow and can't be killed in that position.

what's the best formation for balanced parties with 3 front and 2 back? I've been using hakurei type and haven't gotten anything better yet.

Is Kisume supposed to be this hard? I had some minor trouble with Alice, but that cleared up fairly quickly once I got a bit lucky and stopped getting wall as the first formation. Kisume, on the other hand, one shots every single one of my characters at any part of the formation (alice is my tank, level 7, best shield and armor I have) while I can barely do over 50 damage. Hell, even master spark only does like 190, and that takes like a third of marisa's mp.

I'm fairly sure I can beat her in another try or two, because she's not insanely hard, but this has me worried for orin/okuu and satori. Should I be a higher level? Most of my guys are between 8-10 at the moment. Should I synthesize some stuff? The things I got with the vending machine codes are a good bit better than what I can synthesize, it seems like.

>>7976359
consider using status ailments

>>7976369
What sort? I have byakuren putting up -def and -atk among a few other things, but that doesn't seem to make a difference. I haven't played too much around with skills and stuff, does one of my characters have something I'm not aware of?

>>7976359
well what i did was basically nuke her with my strongest low cooldown attacks. it was basically a battle of who dies first. she's weak against elec so consider using it against her
>>7976369
status ailments as in paralyzation/confusion/silence

>>7976410
Alright, I'll play around with my party a bit then. Is there a significant jump in difficulty with the coming bosses? The walkthrough made it sound like Satori and the area around her were way harder than the first section.

>>7976440
Okuu might end up surprising you, and as long as you don't do anything stupid on Satori you should be fine.
Just be VERY careful when treading on the palace, because those squid-like things are seriously a pain in the ass. Consider bringing Sanae everywhere with you there.

>>7976482
And what should I have sanae doing again? I feel like I wasn't using her effectively when I had her in the forest, she mostly just sat there until I needed a heal or some elemental aoe with her hat thing.

Sorry I'm kind of terrible at this stuff.

>>7976489
RES buff, with a few points in her buffing and healing growth trees.
I think she's going to be useful for Sanae as well, and pretty much every boss from now on.

>>7976337
Hinotori Skydance is the best for balanced parties for most of the game.
In the end -> post game you unlock other good ones like Wall of Faith, Moriya Destruction, The anti yukkuri one etc.

>>7976620
sadly Hinotori Skydance reduces the defense of the characters off-center drastically. Unless you have a way to protect your party, Area Effects will rape your shit.

Also, 25% chance that single target attacks will still hit someone other than the center character. Unless you like a gamble, by cautious with Hinotori Skydance

>>7977250
I've ran Hinotori Skydance with Mokou center for every 5 man fight up until now. I'm preparing my weaker hoes for the final battle pre expansion.

Fuck yo shit nigga.

>>7976359

Kisume has a very obvious pattern, and you're already capable of taking advantage of that pattern to nerf her to harmlessness.

<spoiler>She does Store Power -> single target Physical Attack -> Magic Focus -> single target Magical Attack -> repeat. Use a baiting formation, Have Alice Hourai Doll on turn 1, put up the 90% physical damage reduction move on turn 2, do whatever turn 3, put up the 90% magic damage reduction move on turn 4, repeat. All your other characters can have fun beating on the hapless bucket, and maybe tossing Alice the occasional heal. Put Mokou as commander if you can in case Hourai Doll/formation fails you on a freak chance.</spoiler>

Most bosses have tricks like that that make them beatable at low levels. You can still brute force through most of them if you want, but it'll stop working at mid-endgame.

>>7976359

Kisume has a very obvious pattern, and you're already capable of taking advantage of that pattern to nerf her to harmlessness.

She does Store Power -> single target Physical Attack -> Magic Focus -> single target Magical Attack -> repeat. Use a baiting formation, Have Alice Hourai Doll on turn 1, put up the 90% physical damage reduction move on turn 2, do whatever turn 3, put up the 90% magic damage reduction move on turn 4, repeat. All your other characters can have fun beating on the hapless bucket, and maybe tossing Alice the occasional heal. Put Mokou as commander if you can in case Hourai Doll/formation fails you on a freak chance.

Most bosses have tricks like that that make them beatable at low levels. You can still brute force through most of them if you want, but it'll stop working at mid-endgame.

is Invincible Glove (Blind effect) for Mokou a worthy item? I didn't get her Silence, because those shitty peaches won't ever drop for me.

How would I know if an enemy is reducing my damage with Divine Barrier?

>>7977636
This has reaaaaaaalllly been bugging me, like, reaaaaaaalllllly bugging me... but everytime someone brings up Mokou's status gloves, they always refer to either the blind or silence ones. Why doesn't anyone bring up the great confusion gloves?

Blind only stop physicals and silence only stops magical, but great confusion stops anything that isn't a basic attack. They are just sooo good, most of the time I don't have to worry about my party taking any damage. I still have Mokou wearing them as my tank, and I'm grinding before the pre expansion final boss.

>>7977698
they do have rather low physical power. I like my Mokou with superb PATK so that her bombs hurt even more

>>7977710
Ah, I figured that would be a deterrent for some people, seeing as I tried to switch to blind gloves.

My team puts out rather serious damage once I set up though, so I decided her damage wasn't really necessary. My Mokou is there for Cross Counter/Curse/Reraise.

Still... I've have been in most of these threads so far, yet I cannot recall them being referred to once. It made me feel like they were really bad (or great confusion was a really bad status).

how do I find the boss in the left route of eientei

>>7977765
Hidden doors brah

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Walkthrough/Stage_9

>>7977350
It seems like people giving friendly advice and you just react so ignorantly. Hinotori Skydance is good, yes, but you must know there is a chance that the enemies will not hit the center target. Of course, the drop in defense means AoE physical attacks like Face Smash, Meteor Zapper, etc. will hurt your party more than usual.

>>7977723
I got one of Mokou's glove then skipped everything until blind gloves. I never knew the gloves activated so much more than I expected. If I knew, I would have went for the status gloves earlier.

>>7978053
Jeez I was kidding. Sorry if I offended you.

.......Face smash does give my party some problems though. Noting ACC down and EVA up won't fix though~

Super autism.

I will laugh so hard when the inevitable drop/learning rate patch gives hyper fang crush to SDM fairies or something.

This will never happen.

>>7978617
how does it compare to samidere slash? does it show a higher noticable damage when compare to it?

>>7978647

Haven't tried it yet. Still need to beat these bosses. You can learn HFC and then lose to the next boss and still keep the skill.

>>7978617

I just got it myself too. Unfortunately my super autism hasn't turned off yet and I started grinding other abilities instead of just killing these bitches.

Just a question, does Tsunami cancel out status changes? Every time I do a stance with Youmu and Tsunami hits, I can't seem to use any of her abilities.

How do I do the Eientei thing?
I activated the first portal (the two buttons), but now I don't know where to go.

Also, I saw a switch on the left path but have no idea how to get there.

>>7978926
yeah some status down skills cancel out youmu's stance

>>7978926

Tsunami causes slow, so yeah, I think so.

>>7978979
>>7978982

Okay, I see. I was getting irritated since sometimes my stances wouldn't activate sometimes in the stage 17 battle against Genji and that crab lady. I beat them though so that won't be a problem for now. Although the party split is going to kill me.

Mother of God.
Both Marisa's Firebird and Mokou's Flying Phoenix were cast doubly thanks to their growth - SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH 4 times in a row

enemies very dead

I don't understand how to learn Shield Wall from the Phalanx enemies in the Lake Temple.

Right now I'm just using Aya to make Byakuren's Charm go first, but they never seem to want to use the skill. Fucking god damn.

>>7979190
it's all luck just keep trying. on the other hand i am trying to learn giga dark flare but no luck even though it's 5%

>>7978647
According to the wiki HFC is very very slightly stronger. The main difference is that it is Slash element while Samidare Slash defaults to whatever your weapon is, so HFC lets you have access to two different physical element damage on hand. Not usually useful but not bad to have on hand.

New thread

>>7979564