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>>7882358
i want to stroke your white hair

>>7882387

Every time I go to play the game, it crashes on the first cutscene. I downloaded the prepatched version and it either hangs or just closes.

>>7882424
You need to run it in Windows 95 compatibility. Some people report XP compatibility works better. Also did you extract it in Japanese Locale? Applocale doesn't work.

If it still doesn't work, just press D to skip the cutscene. Watch the first couple stages' worth of cutscenes at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEqXolqknpY&feature=channel_video_title.. Hopefully now that it's translated some people will upload videos of the game.

Just arrived at Eientei. And Nitori, Mokou, Patchy and Satori are severely underleveled.

Time to grind I guess. Any recommendations on how I should split the teams here?

>>7882504
The game is nice enough that the two halves are split with physical and magical enemies, so you can have a mage team and a warriors team.

Or just plow through everything with the same team. Reach the end with your main team and clear enemies, then go through the other one and let your weak team just waltz up to the point now that the enemies are gone.

I still can't get the damn thing to run.

>>7882358
Patch links are coming up as "Invalid File"

>>7882607
Hmm, maybe there's a newer version in the thread? http://pooshlmer.com/wakaba/res/517241.html

Although I think the latest game pack was deleted because there was a positive bug that increased the drop rate for a certain item too much so only an older edition is available.

Anyways, I finally am playing the expansion content. It's nice to see you finally no longer have to rely on luck for the rare character-specific drops.

These are the latest patch files. You should download them even if you got the game+expansion from that folder as these are more recent and fix some crashes.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nhvor04fuzc43id/Game.pak
http://www.mediafire.com/file/9dj9a1x3zbwjwmy/Img.pak

My game still randomly crashes sometimes.
Running on win95 compatibility, I seriously want to know what causes the random crashes.

>>7882671

Did you try running it on XP SP3 compatibility instead? That stopped most of the crashes for me.

>>7882607
it was removed due to an exploitable bug.

I'm in the palace of Earth Spirits. How do you beat the Mind Flayers? They're alright when there is just one, but if there's more then I get Paralyzed+Instant KO'd pretty much instantly. Pic is my party atm. Do I need to grind more?

>>7882890
Just run away/use bombs, you party is overleveled compared to mine.

How do I get Reisen, Cirno, Remilia and Yuugi?

>>7882890
not much advice to give except run. you could use sanae to cast her +RES to party buff, but there's a good chance they'll paralyze her before she can use it.

That was surprisingly easy.
She was dead the turn after she mode changed.

>>7882973
now it's time to go back in and get wrecked by mind flayers until satori learns mind blast.

Oh god. If you see a Shade in the underworld, fucking run.

It's not worth it. I only survived by activating private square.

Does text always autoscroll? That's a red flag right from the get go.

I'm encountering yukkuris but they keep running away before I can kill them. is there some trick I need to use to beat them? does youmu's yukkui slash have any special anti-yukkuri properties or is it just a joke skill?

>>7883454

Only the prologue autoscrolls.

>>7883480
Have you played Dragon Quest? They are Metal Slimes. They drop huge exp and their only purpose in life is to troll you by running away most of the time. In addition, Yukkuri often have a very high chance to Ambush you and get an extra turn to run before you can even do anything. Some are set to have 100% ambush rate. They are also immune to all magic and most of your attacks will miss or do 1 damage, but they have low HP. In addition, running into a yukkuri drastically lowers the next yukkuri encounter chance for that area until you reset the game. The exp they give, unlike regular enemies, is not scaled.


However, there are tricks to hunting yukkuri to make it a reliable source of exp. I'd tell you but it might be more fun to figure them out yourself. Look through your characters' skills and growth trees and see if you can find some to give you the edge!

And yes, Youmu's Yukkuri Slash is Metal Slash and does extra damage to Yukkuri and seems to have good hit rate.

>>7883326

How is it killing you? Are you using Reimu? She fucks up almost everything in that stage because of holy element, Shade included. Can easily have it down on turn one with Persuasive Needle and 3 other melee types whacking on it.

>>7883507
well damn I just ran into 3 but had no idea what to do. I'm sure if I go out looking for them now I won't find any. does yukkuri slash have a good speed bonus or will I have to do stuff to get it out faster? so far the only things that were able to hit was nitori's gun skill.

>>7882890
Dude, my highest level characters are 15 and I've already gotten past Yuyuko and Youmu. Are you using your touhous evenly?

>>7883483
Oh, that's good to know. I hate that shit.

>>7882918
beat the game, they are in the expansion version
>>7882890
use Sanae's +res skill, might want to pump +13 into her skill tree that improves buff for faster casttime

>>7882890
You are gonna need Sanae +res later when you reach youkai mountain. All the mobs later have aoe stun/paralysis and shit.

well I put as much speed gear on youmu as possible and managed to kill a yukkuri. her yukkuri slice only did 2 damage, but apparently they only have 4hp.

It keeps crashing in the cutscene before the battle vs China! I skip it and it crashes on the next one too ;_;
I can't keep going skipping all of the cutscenes...

I'm using windows XP btw, and I applied >>7882661 these patches. And I'm also running the game with applocale. Help, anyone?

Was wondering if could get some help. I'm running XP and in Japanese locale but it always crashes for me on about the fourth line of dialogue in the cutscene. When I skip that one then the same thing happens in the next one. Naturally I did apply patches so I was wondering if there was anything else I needed to do.

>>7883905
>applocale
I found your problem.

>>7883949
>>7883905
Windows 95 compatibility mode.

>>7884024
Wasn't certain as had read previously that XP might work better but thank you.

this game does weird shit to my computer. it works fine when I'm playing, but if I want to do anything else I get freezes and blue screens. is there some kind of memory problem or did I download the version of the game that comes with a trojan?

also is it worth trying to find yukkuris to level my unused characters? my main group is level 25, but the rest are all at 5-10.

>>7884346

Seconding this. My virus scanner detected that the exe file was infected. Haven't touched it since. Hate dealing with an infected computer. Then again, it might be a false positive for all I know.

>>7882508
i guess Reisen is the caster then, i was having trouble with her. because i can easily roll over Tewi.

>>7884375
I scanned it with two virus scanners and came up with nothing. Maybe you got a false positive?

Oh, you.

Is yuyu playable?

>>7884390

Figured it would be a false positive. Guess I'll try downloading it again. Cleaning it deleted the .exe file.

>>7884413
no.
She's a quite assholish boss enemy instead.

>>7884424
By that you mean she usually attacks allies you've just phoenix down'd?

Anyways, are the following playable: Youmu, Satori, Shou, Rin, Okuu, Chen?

>>7884424
She wasn't so bad, I simply put an anti death accessory on Alice and used Hinotori sky formation. Party was Alice in the middle, Nitori and Sakuya at the front, Patchouli and Marisa at the back, and Mokou as commander.

I pretty much followed the walkthrough strategy, but didn't have enough skill points to max out parrar. I simply used hourai doll and her defensive buffs to keep Youmu from murdering everything and Yuyuko from casting death on everybody else. Nitori's chasers do great damage to Yuyuko after Youmu died I still hit Yuyuko with firespells simply to get Nitori to shoot her.

Took like 3 tries, but I won with like a level 14 party.

>>7884460
Just Youmu and Satori.

Satori's the blue mage, but she doesn't learn enemy skills on the first hit like most blue mages. She has like 1/5/10% learning chance depending on the skill and can at best triple those rates if you max out her learning tree so it makes for some rage worthy enemy farming if you're a completionist. Also only the first time an enemy hits her in a battle with a particular skill will she be able to learn it so you can't just keep defending hoping she learns it in a single battle once you've found the monster with the skill you want.

Youmu's your standard bruiser. She sets up stances then unleashes powerful attacks.

can satori learn the star blaze skill that those angel enemies use?

>>7884488
Any chance of tweaking that particular learning chance %?

>>7884521
certainly.
Just like she can learn Punish The Judgement, which is gamebreaking good.

>>7884564
It pretty much just involves the satori skill line and what enemy you're trying to learn the skill from. Some enemies have the same skill, but with a higher base learn percentage.

The highest bonus listed is the one you get when putting points into this skill line. So basically if you have 5 points in Satori you have a 125% bonus to learning a skill, not a 225% one. From a skill with 5% base chance to learn to a 11.25% chance to learn when Satori is hit by it.

Basically don't attempt to make Satori's learning tree maxed out when you first get her since the gains from 24 more points is equal to the first 1 in the Satori skill line in matters of learning.

is there a limit to how many yukkuris you can encounter or something? at first I was running into them every 30 or fights maybe, but now I can't find any. I've been restarting the game after every find like someone mentioned earlier.

>>7884612
who do I learn it from? I'm about to start yuka's level and I'm trying to get my unused characters up to speed. what other skills should I try to learn? I think the mindflayer one and the mass heal from the netherworld priests were mentioned as good.

>>7884669
I'm not sure, wiki says #404 Seraphim. Endgame stuff as it seems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2asZEezYyg#t=3m55s

>>7884346
No, don't use yukkuri for low leveled character. Yukkuri EXP doesn't scale. Low level characters catch up quickly from regular use against much higher level enemies.

For example, in the post game, new characters you get join at level 1. They hit over level 50 in less than 30 minutes, and that's with me exploring and avoiding a bunch of encounters.

>>7884725
suck my dick dude

>>7884725
well they're giving me 1010 exp per fight and there's about a 10k difference between my main formation and my other characters. I figure killing 10 yukkuris is easier than trying to level them one at a time in the commander spot or trying to fight high level monsters with low level characters. I have a good strategy worked out for beating them, the only problem is finding them.

I've got this running on xp but all the speech bubbles are empty.

help?

bump

>>7884932
Anyone able to help? I'm on patch 2.06

>>7885059
are you sure it's not just the help boxes? some of them are broken/untranslated.

>>7885059
>mojibake
The fuck are you doing in /jp/ without jap locale?

>>7885063
Every text box all through the intro and everyone i clicked on while wandering around the shrine were empty.

>>7885059
>>7885070
set your locale and unicode settings to japanese

Just spent 1hour fighting Iku because she doesnt want to cast thunder clap. What is this bullshit?

Gah, Reisen is a pain. I'd make Nitori my commander so that I could camoflage to avoid that Lunatic Red Eyes but I need her to beat Tewi so that she doesn't do 800 damage to me in one turn. I'll figure something out though.

>>7885248
Almost all the "boss only" blue magic listed in the outdated Satori Magic guide can in fact be gotten from expansion enemies.

The only exception is Hyper Fang Crush, the single missable skill in the game. Good luck getting that!

>>7885269
>I need her to beat Tewi so that she doesn't do 800 damage to me in one turn.
Not using Sanae to beat Tewi.
What are you doing?

>>7885289

I need Sanae for Reisen. Absolutely need Sanae for Reisen. She's my only party wide healer and I need a way to heal after stupid Lunatic Red Eyes which I just found out Duplex Barrier won't block no matter what. But my Reisen team doesn't do enough damage. I'll probably replace Reimu with someone else this time.

>>7885303
You dont need Sanae for Reisen.
Spec Byakuren to full debuff tree and Reimu to full healing tree.
You can just tank and spank after that. Debilitate works on Reisen if I remember correctly.

>>7885310

My Byakuren sucks. Super sucks. As in, I need to put her as a commander so she doesn't die. And Reimu's healing is terrible compared to Sanae. As for Tewi, I've just used Sakuya since she does about 1200-1800 a turn, much more if she actually gets her last word.

Is the version on Poosh fully pre-patched? 2.06 and translated and expansion and all that?

bamp

>>7885276

How missable is it?

>>7885446
Yes, though there are newer patch updates to fix small things.

>>7885565
Like what? Where are they?

Does this mean Remilia is superior?

>>7885611
nice exp as well...

>>7885557
I spent five hours getting it. Thankfully it's the only one like this. 1% base learn rate, and boss rarely uses it. So basically only 1/33 chance of learning it.

>>7885611
Remirya is often a predator and eats yukkurisas and yukkureimus

>>7885599
I believe they've been posted in this thread, but check Pooshlmer for the latest

Man, the enemies after Reisen and Tewi got so much tougher. It's kind of weird.

Is there any music in this game? Do I have to check one of the boxes in the config menu?

>>7885797

Nevermind, the game is just unusually quiet.

>>7885823
It isn't, you can alter volume in options.

>>7885732
One of the things is that they are no longer nicely sorted into physical/magical, and instead now there are some that are reflect physical attacks and some that are immune to magic

>>7885834

That's not the problem. I'm not doing enough damage. Only Sakuya seems to be doing adequate damage, I have to use Fantasy Heaven level spells in order to win without dying now.

Is this game even good?

>>7885862
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fikh9MKx7Lk
if this doesn't give you a boner, you should get out of /jp/

>>7885862

I'm 30 hours in, I absolutely love this game. If you like turn based RPGs, give it a shot

Those Moon Race girls...They're so evil. So very evil. And I can't leave the other enemies alone or they'll kick my ass too. Fuck everything, I'm going to spam my max power spells because that's the only way I'll win.

>>7886231
And they all look like Kaguya! Since real lunarians aren't allowed, Eirin must have been cloning Teruyo!

>>7886267

Yeah, the worst part is there's threats that are nearly as bad as them in every single fight. And my damage isn't sufficient for some reason. They went from having 1000 HP easy to kill enemies to 1000 HP enemies with ridiculous defenses. The turtle is probably even worse since I have to Master Spark the crap out of him so my party doesn't die.

>>7886281
You need to learn weaknesses. Neutral things like Master Spark should only be used if there are no better alternatives.

>>7886473

There are no better alternatives. Nearly everything there is weak to Dark, and Satori's Shadow Boom does half the damage of Master Spark to stuff weak to Dark without the ability to hit multiple opponents. I have better luck spamming Fantasy Heaven. Not to mention no one else in my party knows Dark attacks.

>>7886506
Yes, the game manual specifically mentioned that Dark is the rarest damage type for your party. Byakuren is the game's dark magic master but she doesn't get her really powerful bombs until the 30s. Her dark and light magic generally come in pairs. They are pretty awesome though as not only do they do High damage to all enemies, but Star Maelstrom (Light) also inflicts Instant Death, and Dark Galaxian inflicts Petrify.They even sound cool!

But right now she's stuck with her Low damage Dark Sphere, so she's best sticking to being a status effect tweaker till then.

But since you mentioned turtles, most turtles in this game are weak against water for some reason including one of the final bosses.

>>7886634

I figured water, but I'm not sure whether to put that ice skill on Marisa or not. For some reason I have this strange feeling that some of these enemies are weak to Fire so I need to keep it on. Although I could take out Final Spark, it's pretty useless now that I think about it.

>>7886642
You can check the records screen to see what the enemies and weak and strong against. Every time I defeat an enemy I look it up so I know how to setup my party.

>>7886699

I didn't know I could do that. I guess I don't really need to Scan enemies during a fight then.

I have a question about charming things to learn Blue Magic for Satori.

Is there a better way to charm things than to use Satori's last word with Sanae as commander or something? I was thinking that maybe Byakuren had a charm spell or something but I haven't really checked.

>>7886720
Byakuren has a charm spell, as well as an IND improving spell. Youmu has a commander bomb skill that halves RES, using that will help guarantee the charm effect.

How do you get monsters to respawn on command? I just got Youmu and I want to level her up to be on par with everyone else by doing mass Netherworld runs

>>7886712
Aya's scan is for flavor text, which you view by pressing C. Bosses automatically come with their flavor text.

>>7886720
Satori's Last Word is for Control, anyways, not Charm. Control is generally better but support spells need to be charmed

>>7886787

Thanks. Looks like I'll need to level her up soon.

>>7886833

My bad. The two are pretty similar so I get them mixed up.

>>7886809
Annoyingly enough to get monsters to respawn you need to enter enough other locations. So just enter and exit all the other dungeons and locations until the monsters are back.

Of course they never seem to respawn quickly when you want them to, but have no issue coming back all the time when you are trying to clear a dungeon, blarg. Dang hard stages that you need to leave and heal alot on.

>>7886833

Well, I was using Satori's scan to check their weakness. I haven't been using Aya at all since I got Sakuya.

>>7886850
How good is Aya in this game anyway? I'll usually go out of my way to use her in these doujin games, unless it really screws me.

>>7886840
Technically just entering and exiting the same location is just fine too. Though it's better to just go to other dungeons and hunt for items you didn't get or just autobattle through easy dungeons for Power, as that doesn't really change much through the game but the requirements for the next power level keeps increasing until you hit 999. Unlike exp, power doesn't get scaled so even 2nd stage enemies can drop power comparable to lots of endgame enemies. Of course, if you're hunting for material drops and Satori Blue Magic it comes pretty naturally.

ok so today I'm back to trying to train satori. so far the only spell I have is star blaze from an angel enemy. I'm going to try to pick up the column dark attack from the demon enemy too. what else should I go for?

How do i get Byakuren?

>>7886854

I have no clue honestly. She doesn't do a lot of damage and I don't know what role she fits into at all. Illusionary Dominance is a nice spell that lets your entire party go first though.

>>7886860

Go to the house in the bottom right and wait there for 1 hour

>>7886854
Every character in the game is useful in their own way. Aya is probably the most niche one though. Her damage is pretty mediocre, though if she gets her last word she can act twice a turn. Her specialty is turn manipulation and helping the party dodge or hit things. Naturally, she herself also has the highest dodge rate, and her fans boost that even further. Since I hinted at it earlier, I'll point out that Aya is the most critical element for yukkuri hunting. Her Air War tree lets her prevent getting ambushed which yukkuri are prone to doing. And then in battle her Illusionary Dominance (or Paparazzi if she is the commander) will let the rest of your entire party go first before the yukkuri. Therefore, if you yukkuri hunt, Aya might just become your most leveled character, which is necessary for scanning enemies as Aya has to be their level or higher.

Also, she is critical in combatting dragons and other breathers, as her maxed Fan skill lets her reflect breath attacks. Unlike Reimu's, it doesn't cost a bomb and has no cooldown time. So the next time you go through an area with cockatrices or other breath users, consider bringing Aya.

>>7886858
I assume you just got her. All target elementals are always good. Shadow Burst for a dark attack is good. Mind Blast is very powerful. Mass heal is great, petro breath is useful but she needs to be lvl 30 for that. >>7886860
You need to wait in the temple for an hour, just minimize the game. Alternatively she auto joins later on in the game. But it's better to get her early. >>7886854
I've never used Aya as anything other than the occasional commander. She gets lots of turn manipulation skills, but I can't say how she really could be used.

>>7886890
Oh, and another use of Illusionary Dominance is against bosses with countermoves, of which there are several. Normally those moves have high priority, but they can't counter you if your party goes before they can set up their counter!

>>7886870
Aya is a great hitter with fans maxed and using fan dance. also great in support using reporting+peerless wind god (allies act first field spell)

>>7886890
I wonder how useful that enemies' time stop skill would be for satori? Hm.

>>7886905

I see. I probably won't use her in this file, but I'll keep it in mind when I start a second playthrough. I was thinking about using her there but I have no idea how to use her at all. I've mostly been using characters with obvious roles. Also, is it just me or does Marisa's damage start to fall off mid game? She used to be doing amazing damage but now Sakuya's doing double her damage against bosses.

>>7886912
Satori can only learn it at level 50 or higher I believe. Don't try to randomly learn things without checking to see if they can be learned first! Thankfully, even that's clearly a reference to Kaguya's manipulation of eternity, Kaguya herself doesn't use it, or that boss fight would be REALLY hard.

What's everyone's most used team? Alice, Reimu, Sakuya, Patchy and Satori here. Alice is the ultimate tank, Reimu heals, barriers and uses light skills, I also gave her a spear so she pokes Flayers to death. Sakuya is the big physical damage dealer. Patchy and Satori for all target elemental magics. I always keep Satori in the party, because I'm paranoid about learning skills.

>>7886926
Actually, it's best if you constantly rotate everyone. You can freely switch in dungeons and in later dungeons there's no way you can endure that long with just one party. You'll need to constantly use powerful abilities and make use of all your resources. One thing I like about the game is that different characters are useful for different dungeons, so you don't just slog through every dungeon by spamming the same powerful skills each battle with the same party. In fact, not only should you rotate characters, but you may want to frequently reallocate character' growth points. For example, sometimes Reimu might be better as the party's light mage, while other times you need her to focus on being the barrier maiden and healer. Most characters have several roles they can perform. Even Alice can go on the offensive with her Straw Doll Kamikaze, which gets powered up by her Self-Destruct tree.

This, expansion included, is a very long 100-200+ hour RPG (and much more if you want to collect everything, which the Records section is an incentive for) so it might be unlikely you'd want to start a new playthrough unless you didn't get Hyper Fang Rush and are a completionist.

>>7886985

I see, I've kind of used the same party for everything except Eientei where I was forced to use some of my level 7 characters. Besides that, been using the same Reimu, Marisa, Sakuya, Youmu and Satori with Sanae as commander except for bosses. I think most of the other characters are 10 levels below them, my main party is about level 29 right now. And I've been changing some of the growths around, although I usually don't mess with the skills I've already put 25 into unless it could serve a better purpose.

I crash shortly after Marisa arrives at the Shrine in the prologue. Any ideas?

Also does this game have Tewi?

>Satori's the blue mage, but she doesn't learn enemy skills on the first hit like most blue mages. She has like 1/5/10% learning chance depending on the skill and can at best triple those rates if you max out her learning tree so it makes for some rage worthy enemy farming if you're a completionist. Also only the first time an enemy hits her in a battle with a particular skill will she be able to learn it so you can't just keep defending hoping she learns it in a single battle once you've found the monster with the skill you want.

Who thought that this was a good idea? Does she at least have a gigantic list rivaling a SaGa Frontier monster or something?

>This, expansion included, is a very long 100-200+ hour RPG (and much more if you want to collect everything, which the Records section is an incentive for) so it might be unlikely you'd want to start a new playthrough unless you didn't get Hyper Fang Rush and are a completionist.

100+ hours?! How much of it is grinding?

Satori learned Falling Stars. But then the entire party died after it was used again. Why is this game so cruel? I don't want to grind just so Satori can actually learn something of worth.

>>7887040
Run in Windows 95 compatibility or press C to skip it and watch it on youtube

Yes, Tei is a boss fight.

>>7886966
I try to switch my team every stage, or in the middle of a stage if it's going on for a while and most of the party has run out of MP. I kinda wish benched characters would regen MP ala Labyrinth of Touhou.

>>7886934
how do you see if a move can be learned?

Took me 30 minutes to kill alice.
I am a stubborn dumbass

>>7887053
Yes, she has 100+ skills and that's before the expansion. Also, contrary to what you may think, physical skills aren't all worthless, because two of her trees actually boost her physical damage, in in her personal post-game sidequest she's better off with physical attacks.

>>7887072
By checking the Japanese wiki. This is an english guide but it is outdated as it doesn't include the expansion. Now all moves, including those listed as boss-only, can be learned in the postgame except for Hyper Fang Rush, the only missable in the game.

>>7887056

Happened again, this time with a different move. Dammit Satori stop learning stuff when the whole party is about to die.

>>7887106

When/Where do you get that skill? I don't want to miss it.

>>7887106
Bah, 4chan won't let me attach excel files like Pooshlmer does. It should be in one of the older threads on Pooshlmer.

>>7887110
Stage 18. Kagami

It is very hard to get to you'll have to really work for it unless you're lucky!

I wonder if I'm under or overleveled. Right now I've just beaten Komachi with Alice, Reimu, Marisa, Byakuren, Patchouli, and Mokou as commander. My Alice only had 24 skill points so I wasn't able to spam parrar every turn, but I got through after my third fight against Komachi, second with this party setup.

As it stands my levels are:
Reimu Lv 15
Marisa Lv 18
Sanae Lv 15
Aya Lv 14
Byakuren Lv 15
Mokou Lv 19
Sakuya Lv 18
Patchouli Lv 19
Nitori Lv 18
Alice Lv 16
Satori Lv 14
Youmu Lv 15

I've been rather lucky with equipment drops though and I make sure to find every treasure before fighting the boss of a stage.

Also any recommendations for any Satori skills I should try to learn in one of the previous stages? As of now she has destruction beam, energy bolt, flame, ice chill, earth javelin, plasma ball, and constrict.

>>7887128

You're definitely not overleveled. I wondered if I was overleveled with half my party at around level 23 and the other half around level 7 at that point in the game, and even then I was told I might be underleveled.

How open is this game to beginners? By that I mean should I study up before playing, or will I pick things up as I go along?
How difficult is it? What's the learning curve?

>>7887437
It's difficult but the only penalty for dying is losing the items you got in the current dungeon that you haven't saved yet. You can just walk outside to save them permanently if you need to, and there are no random encounters. You'll pick things up as you go along and bosses are designed to be trial and error anyways-you don't lose anything and there's a teleporter right to them, so if you die you literally walk right back in and fight them again immediately, trying to decipher their patterns and weaknesses. They tend to be more strategic than most RPGs.

I'm convinced there's some kind of yukkuri timer now. this morning after the first few I wasn't finding any at all, but trying again now I just ran into 3 after just a few attempts.

>>7887470
Hrm...not sure I like the sound of that...what about my first question?

>>7886966
Nitori Marisa and Patchouli.
1shot most mobs with elemental weakness and I fill the other 2slots with either youmu/sakuya/sanae depending if I need Sanae for the +res against certain mobs.
Thank god once you reach youkai mountain, you dont face mobs with aoe permanent affecting spells.

>>7887072
http://www26.atwiki.jp/touhou_souzin/
Check under the map section.
You can see the list of mobs you are going to fight in the map. Each mob learnable skills will be listed.

how important do you think mp regen is? I'm starting to think I'm being too miserly with my mp now that I have around 100-150 for each character. I think I'm making things harder than they should be by only using one or two spells per encounter for characters with meditation skills and none for characters without.

>>7887570
this doesn't really help since I can't read anything

>>7887603
Try google translate

Are there any skills Satori can learn early on that absorb magic, or regenerate MP in general? I'm going towards the staff tree just so I can get the absorption skill, but I'd prefer to use the eye if there's any magic she can learn that does the same thing.

Oh man, I don't recall the original game being this unstable.

Nothing like waiting an hour for Byakuren, only for the game to crash right after recruiting her. And before that, I couldn't even get through the intro without the latest patch because either Reimu would just decide that talking is for losers or the game would crash before all 5 billion cutscenes finished.

Is there a way to manually save or access backup saves or something like that?

>>7888089

short answer: no

long answer: eventully she will have so much IND that one debuff/permanant status efffect spell will turn a battle in your favor

phantasm level answer: just equip Byakuren with as many bombs as possible and switch her in to use her commander skill to mana up your entire party.

holy hell what is with the basilisks on stage 7. Venom does 140+ damage per turn, throwing in the initial damage from the breath there's no way to survive it.

>>7889108
Use Sanae or Reimu status nullified barrier.

If you are having a lot of trouble on the 3rd stage grab the weapons from the vending machine with the codes.
Also the first stage is much easier if you just grind a bit until your characters hit level 2.

Running normally with XP: Crashes after Reimu is done sweeping
Running with 95 compatibility mode: Says I need to install DirectX 9.0 (downloading latest DirectX didn't solve it)

>>7890717
I had the same problem. Downloading this solved it:
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=35

...I think. I haven't actually played the game yet.

>>7890731

Thanks, but no dice. I give up.

>>7892214
Don't. Keep poking; ask around on Poosh.
If I can make it work, you certainly can.

I think I've finally hit my first wall. I can't do anything to Eirin or Kaguya. Well, shit.

>>7892214
No.
I am pretty sure you need to download the directx package installer and not the web installer.

Well, I actually managed to kill Eirin. But then I thought it was a great idea to use Colloseo World so Kaguya wouldn't heal and she managed to kill everyone with Rainbow Danmaku. What bullcrap. I'm never using Colloseo World again, it's useless.

How do you make mobs respawn in dungeons? I thought all you had to do was zone in and out of the dungeon a few times but that hasn't been working for me.

>>7893032

dude...thy are in a direct line. Just have marisa go 100% into her master spark tree and chain cast those niggas into next week, making sure to keep her buffed. Marisa can solo that fight in terms of the damage needed. Use the regular master spark, not triple spark

>>7893059

It's on a real life timer.

Why are chasers always ridiculous in every game they are in?

Also a bit bummed that Byakuren is all single target. Satori seems more useful even without learning the best magic.
The level 25 scroll amp move is nice though. Maybe I'll replace Sanae with her if I ever get a better formation than skydance.

>>7893032
Protip.
Use Byakuren and max her debuff tree.
]All the status effect including CONTROL work on her.
Use her buff on your party and laugh at how easy the fight is.

If not just use Sanae buff, magic down and rape them Marisa. Be sure to get slayer: magician on Marisa.

>>7893075
I haven't even been using chasers since I'm too lazy to learn type weaknesses. what level do you get the mystic element one?

Is there much of any reason to use that "To Commander" button besides to see what Commanders can do? Do smaller parties have any advantage at all?

>>7893417
Some dungeons have the party be split into teams.

I'm trying to learn mass heal but I can't get this faggot to use it on me. I'm using byakuren's unresist and hyper trigger to raise the chances of charm, but the enemy just hits himself and it wears off. is there some other trick to use? or is there anything else I can use to charm instead of byakuren's bomb?

also can you use control to learn attack spells?

>>7893417
Yes.

Eientei is not the last you'll see of party splitting, except this time you're split into three parties so you'll really have to strategically pick!

Also, in the post game expansion, every character has their own quests you can take to get more of their special forging items, which usually require them to fight their personal nemesis alone.

>>7893424
you could use that move Aya has so your party moves last, that way when control procs he won't knock it off himself.

oh, and bya has a spell that inflicts control, definitely going to want to use that instead of charm.

>>7893458
Support spells, like mass heal, leaf shield and the like; can't be used if you use control on them. You have to use charm to get moves like those.

fucking dammit this is the most frustrating thing ever. the enemy just tried to use mass heal 3 times but he couldn't because he silenced himself first.

>>7893465
what about attack spells? can I use control to learn those?

>>7893593
Yes. Fortunate, there are very, very few support spells. The vast majority of enemy moves are attack skills.

finally got mass heal, is it possible to learn that evasion boost spell that enemy 62 Hraesvelgr uses?

Christ this game is unstable. It looks great, but I don't know if I can enjoy it with crash after crash looming over my head.
What can I do about the end-of-cutscene crashes? I'm not skipping them all.

that feel when I was all happy over finally learning Mass Heal and I have not even used it once since then, spamming Mind Blast instead.

>>7893747
Read them, crash, get to them again, skip.

goddamn this spell learning is so frustrating. is photon burst from principality enemies even learnable? it seems like the only time they want to use it is when it will kill satori, and I can't get control to work on them.

>>7893795
Satori doesn't have to survive. you have to win though

>>7893747
If windows 95 doesn't work for you, make educated guesses when the cutscenes are ending as crashes often happen at the last line, and skip when you think the scene is over, like if the party is walking off.

>>7893792
For EVERY SINGLE CUTSCENE in the whole game? No way.
Besides, it's not just that. It crashes every other time I do something.

>>7893792
>>7893802
>>7893792
For EVERY SINGLE CUTSCENE in the whole game? No way.
Besides, it's not just that. It crashes every other time I do something, from talking to someone to leaving an area...
I'm using 95 compatability and the patch files from >>7882661, for the record.

>>7893831
You do have Japanese Locale and not applocale, and extracted it in Japanese Locale too, right?

>>7893150
Level38.
I just got it myself.
Up to magic of forest 2 and havent crafted a single weapon, fuck yeah generic staff and sword.

wait could it be that I can't learn this spell because satori's level isn't high enough? I learned another spell from the same enemy though.

>>7893909
Enemy level doesn't matter, the spell does. For example, the Moon Race's Time Stop requires lv 50, as does Starlight Barrier.

finding out that Perfect Square stops enemies for one turn only made me rage a bit when I got gibbed the next turn.

>>7893914
how do I know if my level is too low or if I'm just really unlucky? I got the single target spell but I want the multi target one too.

>>7893919
http://www26.atwiki.jp/touhou_souzin
Check the jp wiki.
Surprisingly all the buff skills are almost 100% to learn.
Just need to charm it and make sure they cast it on you.
Dont bother learning breath since they are based on physical and have a 1% chance to learn.

>>7893926
like I said before this is useless to me because I can't read moonrunes. also I charmed that blue bird thing and got him to use his evasion move but I didn't learn it. is it unlearnable or did I do something wrong?

>>7893933
>can't read moonrunes
That is your problem and yes it is unlearnable if you check the wiki.
Get rikaichan and go sort the mobs by map.
It is not that hard. Besides half of them are in katakana and they are basically the same as in english.

>>7893933
The mediafire folder in the OP has Satori Blue magic.xls. That has enough information for you. It's for pre expansion so there are more monsters to learn moves from now.

When does the game start to pick up? I've just entered the Forest of Magic and things are pretty bland.

The story's just one big NOBODY KNOWS at this point and the combat's insipid and frequent. It's actually pretty fun to completely reassign my points, though, even if I have no real clue on what works and what doesn't (as shown in my current party, Team Lopsided+Not Appearing in Cutscenes).

>>7893977
Prepare to get raped once you hit Alice.

I'm having issues with equipment. It seems I can't equip anything that I find until I've closed and reopened the game. Has anyone else had this problem?

>>7893977
caring about the story in his jRPG

>>7893942
I tried opening it in notepad but I couldn't make heads or tails of it. do I need to use a different program?

>>7893992
>xls
>notepad
Oh boyyyyyyyyyyy. My /jp/ anon cant be this stupid right?

>>7893992
google .xls, and you find out that it is the Excel format.

>>7893994
>>7894001
oh fuck I was thinking it said .xml for some reason. now I have to find my microshit office disc somewhere.

>>7893988
Well, I probably should've mentioned character interaction as well, just to get the whole picture.

...

It kinda sucks at this point. Yup.

>>7893977
To check what does what in the growth section hit C on the keyboard. X if you're using a gamepad

step 1: find birds like this in the 2nd magic forest

step 2: use free fight/ Alice's line shield spell and keep killing them with electric attacks, making sure there is always a few left so they can reproduce. Byakurens enchant weapons + Sanae's snake bomb works very well for this seeing as you need Byakuren anyway.

step 3: fight birds untill they eventually stop reproducing( for some reason, the game won't let them multiply after you kill about 60 of them)

step 4 : don't kill the last one untill Byakuren uses at least once . If cast multiple times in a single battle, Flying Fantastica will always go with whatever the highest percentage was. Heal the enemy/ attack with Byakuren, make sure you don't end the battle early.

step 5: cross your fingers for 190%

step 6: ?????

>>7894166
zOMG boobies!!

Why does everyone use Satori?
I mean, I can see where she might be useful but her fucking HP stat is terrible. How do you get her to survive more than one or two multi hit attacks without spamming shield on her or some shit?

>>7894291
She is your only other dark attacker after Byakuren.
You definitely need her to beat those flying faggot angels that are immuned to everything except dark.
If you have satori, marisa, patchouli and nitori with max chaser you can rape everything in 1turn.

Is there a way to change commander without having to setup your whole party again?

>>7893061

Marisa was only doing about 600 damage every two turns with Master Spark WITH the max Master Spark tree, she's not enough at all. It doesn't help when Kaguya buffs their defenses to unholy levels to the point where I can barely scratch them.

>>7893145

Byakuren was absolutely worthless. Her debuffs only hit about 30% of the time with Omen in Purple Mist never working with the status debuff tree maxed, not to mention she died when they so much as looked at her. As for Sanae, her buffs aren't doing enough. It may be because I didn't put too many points into her buff tree, but I absolutely need to put it in her healing if I don't want to get my anus rearranged by Starlight Arrow.

>>7894291

Obviously ur playing it wrong, Byakuren with debuff tree max + 2 IND item + cocktrice crest = enemy disabled forever.

She and Satori spamming mind blast were my main strength against those mobs that is high resistance to many things.

My party only need to normal attack to clear the ground after that.

Also Suwako can be Petrified the first turn and do nothing in the match and Kanako can be affected by death.

well it seems like one of the abilities I was trying to get was unlearnable and another is only 1% rate. the other 2 are 5% though so I guess I'm just unlucky with that. do you think it's worth spending time trying to get sword gale and shadow burst from netherworld enemies?

>>7894729

It doesn't matter anyways, I already beat Eirin and Kaguya with a different strategy. Decided to use Ofuda of Dispelling to get rid of Kaguya's buffs and just buffed the crap out of Sakuya with Marisa blasting them with magic, Youmu stancing and slashing and Sanae healing when she wasn't buffing someone.

>>7894744
check 'em

Also Kaguya can be charmed or mind controlled by Byakuren and buff ur team every turn, making the fight cheese to win.

>>7894381
You can use Mokou too as the tank and just stack +fire damage on patch if they aren't fire resistant.

>>7893845
I do, and I'm pretty sure I did.

I re-installed it (haven't patched it with >>7882661 yet) and it SEEMS to be running better, but now I'm running in to more untranslated text. The folks in Myouren and one of the help books at the shrine, for instance.

>>7894811
The second part of forest of magic is so rage inducing.
Those unicorns and spear dudes are immune to magic and then that stupid tree is immune to physical. After I swap to my physical lineup the stupid tree then that is highly resistant to physical show up and face smashed my whole team.
They should have a team swap system before the start of battle.

>>7894862
Yeah, thats the main reason I made both teams be balanced. Hinotori Skydance being so good for most of the game also helps.
I use Mokou, Nitori, Patchouli, Sanae, and Satori as my main enemy clearing team. The team setup using the other characters is for line/boss mostly.

last fucking doll kamikazed

I assume there's people currently working on fixing all the crashes, right??
Also, what will change in my computer if I just leave it in japanese locale? I'm too lazy to change the locale and restart the computer everytime I want to play this game.

>>7895307
Just leave it in Japanese Locale. The only main thing is that slash sometimes comes up as yen signs in folder addresses but it all works the same.

>>7893873
I used all of the special craft items to make armor for most of the game.
Axes are amazing on physical users + Sanae. Some spears are also really good for when you get them, like the poison one.
Staves are good for casters, but I made Eyes + Scrolls for the IND.
Swords have decent defensive stats and abilities for the tanks.

I'm still not very fond of books, boots, or 2hnded swords personally.

that BITCH.
Good that I have Beast slayers on both my stage 5 touhous. This was a matter of 4 turns.

Has anybody else had trouble starting this game?
I double click the icon to start the game, it opens for a few seconds and just closes itself.
I'm always running it on japanese local so it's not that.
It ran fine for me before, before the expansion came out, but now it doesn't.

For me, just getting that message about direct X9, i cant even start the app. It looks like a fun game, and i really like rpg's just damn :(

>>7895545
You need to actually install the particular Direct X 9 it wants I believe, even if you have a more up to date version. I recall having this issue myself

I got around the DirectX problem by installing the 2.00 version of the game, patching to 2.06 via the official site, and then replacing the 2.06 exe with the 2.00 exe (it backs up the 2.00 exe after updating).

>>7895481
>>7895481
>>7895481

If you remove the touhou aspect i found this game very weak. Dungeons are linear, non-boss fight are totally uninteresting (99% of the time you destroy them using only physical attacks and weak spells, 1% you get hit with deadly status effects), you dont have to manage your ressources since there s 0 penalty to exit and come back, and boss fights are very short and rare. Quite disappointing imo, i was probably expecting too much.

Did the game drop hints on using the Konami code on the bamboo forest? Also, I have to wait 1 hour of Real Life time for Byakuren to show up at her place, right?

Also, can this game be save scummed(for hyper fang purposes)?

>>7896100
my only real gripe with the game is that the boss battles are both too short and too easy. i guess i'm only on stage 8, but the only boss i needed to fight more than twice was Yuyuko, since i wasn't sure how to survive Resurrection Butterfly.

Can't get it to work.

Goddamm it.
How do you guys learn leaf shield?
I charmed those sword fairy but it isnt casting it. Instead it is just falcon slashing himself dead.

>>7896100
How far are you? Most of the later bosses require very specific strategy, so my complaint if any would be in the opposite direction about the trial and error nature. Also, the entire final stage is loaded with bonus boss fights. Every single room has 2 different bonus bosses that can be fought as random encounters, honoring the tradition of Final Fantasy 1.

>>7896140
Really? Are you winning them without a walkthrough? I think the bosses in this game are quite tough compared to most RPGs. Especially since everyone has their own gimmick you'd need to prepare for.

>>7896102
I believe the secret stuff were told to people who bought the game when it was released as a promotional bonus. Mokou and Byakren join naturally otherwise on stage 9 and 11.

Nope, other than just closing and refighting or teleporting right back in.

>>7896197
You can alt+F4 the game midfight and you'd reload before the fight?

Also, my Byakuren finally arrived. Back to the SDM then...
There is no missable for not having a perfect record(as in no party defeats/escapes)?

>>7896203
Quite the opposite, you're rewarded for dying. Die 25 times and go to hell, die 101 times and go to heaven; get good formations from Komachi and Tenshi.

Hyper Fang Crush is the only missable thing I am aware of. There are no missable items. You can miss Kaguya's bestiary entry if you cheese the boss fight and just have her run away from battle after controlling her, which will still leave her trigger as dead causing Eirin to spam Elixer every turn and not attack you, turning a potentially boss fight into a joke at the cost of losing the bestiary entry.

>>7896189

>>7896189
Are you going after the right formation. Most sword fairies do not cast it. Only the 7 enemies formation as well as maybe another works for this. If they can cast it, they probably will when they're not charmed so you know it knows it. They like casting it 1st round and not casting it much later though so you might want to Aya to charm it fast.

>>7896237
>7 enemies formation
Wait what?
I didnt know about this. So I have to run around until I meet 7 of them?
I didnt know about this.

>>7896281
Yes, it's the only thing like this in the game to the point some people think it's also some sort of easter egg due to how specific it is. One out of four fairies only in one rare formation. Anyways, go to the boss-end of the stage and run from other fights. It's probably the first time you wish you could run away from yukkuri without them disappearing and wasting the spawn.

>>7896215
So I can just grind suicides now, or should I let it come naturally?

>>7896326
It comes pretty naturally if you aren't using a walkthrough, but autobattling with 1 character at dungeons is a pretty fast way to do it if you really want

I'm having a hard time deciding what I should do with synthesis. I know that you're given a limited amount of character specific synthesis items throughout the game via chests (like Donation box, silver plate, etc..) and that the drop rates from them off monsters is absolutely abysmal. Do any of you know at what point you can start synthesis without having to worry about running out of character specific mats at any given point throughout the game, assuming you upgrade at every tier? On my previous playthrough I had to wait every two tiers before I found enough items to upgrade their weapons because of lack of mats, and farming them almost never did me any good.

>>7896375
Synthesize strategically through the main game. They're easy to get in the postgame along with other rare items (especially gold, which I can sometimes get 4 of in less than 5 minutes), to the point that the common stuff like iron is what you grind for.

>>7896426
>Synthesize strategically through the main game.

How?

>>7896288
Wait.
I also just realize that it is a single target spell.
So even if I found the right formation how the hell do I make sure that it casts it on Satori?

>>7896445
Use less party members, so easier if Satori can solo the fight. Just skip it if you want and come back later, Starlight Barrier is the full party version anyways.

>>7896375
Doing lots of synthesizing without farming like a superautist(imagine ten autists combined) is practically impossible.

Honestly on a regular playthrough your equipment is going to be a combo of what you find in chests, lucky drops, and a synthesized piece of equipment every now and then.

It's not worth it to synthesize for a lot of the characters anyways. Sakuya can do quite well with the Akiba Cherry Blossom before you need to move onto better weapons for her since they allow her to sustain her own MP. Patchouli actually works better with axes if you go Machouli since axe training boosts ACC as well as PATK, going books with her makes her miss a lot more; also for any offensive caster you're generally better off with staves than their regular weapontype.

Generally if you find the special abilities of a character's main weapon useful you should synthesize. Not for better stats, but for better ability. Slayers come to mind. Giving Nitori her synthesized guns make her ruin fairies in general since they're usually mages and warriors. Marisa's broomsticks might be appealing if you find you're running out of MP a lot with her, but I find that she uses up bombs faster than MP in general.

If you really want to synthesize more then you're going to have to scour every chest and bring the gamer fan into every battle.

>>7896440
1 every 3 tier seems to work. Or just do the ones that you think make a difference, such as Sakuya's slayer weapons for certain enemies.

>>7896454
>>7896455
I prefer using knife on Sakuya just for double trigger for death.

I'm having some missing translations here and there. Some stuff on the menus (targeting types, elements, etc) and the stuff >>7894855 mentioned. I don't like running in to stuff like this so early on; it makes me worried about the rest of the game.

>>7896465
Well, that's Sakuya's "real" weapon after all. Though the only time I had Sakuya use a knife was ironically against the final boss, as it had a slayer effect that her 2handers didn't.

Anyways, you can get character materials in the post game by doing quests, though they're not all even in difficulty. You often get 2 for each quest, 1 as a reward and 1 as a drop. Some characters' item quests are very easy and fast while some aren't, like Byakuren's. Poor Byakuren gets called out to come naked and present herself before Hard Di*k...

Question

If i equip a double-handed weapon my the whole shield unusable or just the effect?

>>7896375
see >>7895409
Only grab the ones with special effects that you want like slayers or IND+.

The 'basic' weapons you get as drops are actually really good.

>>7896511
The shield is unusable if you are using an attack skill. It's still worth having in case you just Defend though. I'm still not quite sure how Alice's Parrar works other than being good, so I recommend always putting a shield in the slot anyways even if it's a caster or no-shield weapon wielder.

>>7896485
Report the menu things to the pooshlmer thread, preferably with screenshot so they can fix it in a future patch edition. Things like the the untranslated text at the temple are low priority at the moment and I think those few are the only ones in the game anyways. All relevant dialogue in cutscenes and such are translated

>>7896566
I can't imagine they don't already know about it.

>>7896594
Oh, I didn't even notice, there are usually only single target or team target so it's pretty easy to figure out which is which. The thing that's more likely confusing is the elements, though that's probably untranslated as translations wouldn't really fit compared to characters. At least they're color coded, though the physical ones threw me off at first, but go in the order of Slash/Stab/Strike.

>>7896594
This is more important.
X->Triangle->Circle->Star
Weak to strong.
If you see X and Triangle from the youkai encyclopedia, blast them with it

Does anybody know whether this works in Wine?
Also any tips for a beginner? Not really prepared to go through a zillion previous threads.

Sorry for bringing up the topic of Lead Shield again (I'm not the same guy who did earlier though), but I noticed that in the English wiki it notes that you only find it from mobs in room 東-M of the Garden of Sun stage. While I'm aware that the wiki is mostly outdated, is it truly exclusively from this room? Or is it anywhere in the near-boss range of maps as was noted earlier in the thread?

>>7896641
The area directly below the before boss save point has a group with leaf shield. It's a much larger amount of foes than the group in area M though.

>>7896631
Seconding this.

>>7896641
>>7896701
Odd, apparently my post didn't come through.

Let's see if this thread is autosaging yet

>>7896628
[★] Invincible [0%]
[☆] Really strong [12.5%]
[◎] Very strong [25%]
[●] strong [50%]
[○] Rather strong [75%]
[-] Standard [100%]
[△] Rather weak [150%]
[▲] Weak [200%]
[×] Very weak [300%]
[☠] Fatal [600%?]

I'm at the beginning, just beat Sakuya and Patchy.
Is damage supposed to be ridiculously high? I can't beat some random encounters because they gank one of my guys and kill them instantly, sometimes two of them in the first turn.

When do I get other party members? I tried to go to a few places on the map, but they won't let me enter and I just walk over it.

>>7896736
Yeah, just lost another random battle because Death Beam is too aptly named.

>>7896742
Destruction Beam*
Not that it changes anything.

>>7896742

Stick with 1'st person shooters broski. Flailing around like an idiot trying to kill enemies with less than 10hp is not a good omen when starting a difficult RPG like this one.

>>7896767
But they kill me instantly.
If they don't, then I die if someone else attacks me on that first turn.

Am I supposed to be healing before I take damage or something?

>>7896774
I guess if you didn't get the two optional characters and only have a 4-character party it could be difficult to lose a character. But you can always run away if you are losing the fight.

>>7896736
Go to the bamboo forest and walk up up down down left right left right to find one party member, and if you reeeeally want another wait at Byakuren's spot for an hour of real time

Other than that try changing your formation, or changing your growth to something more defense oriented for now, since you can switch it around whenever you want

Most annoying enemy yet. Can't run, everyone who can hurt them is instagibbed by tentacle, everyone who can't is invincible except to the default 25 per turn .

>>7896774
To unlock Byakuren go to her temple in the lower right corner and wait there a literal hour for Byakuren to return. I'm not kidding. Do this when you have something to do on the side so you can just leave the game running.

To unlock Mokou, after talking to Akyu a couple of times she'll tell you about her. Go to the forest area that appears west of Akyu then traverse the forest in Konami code fashion to get Mokou.

If you already did both these things then all I can recommend is to simply power through the enemies as fast as you can. Simply kill them before they kill you. And if you see patrols, just run.

>>7896935
Ah! It just hit me why they did konami code for Mokou! It's because the code is known for granting infinite lives, and Mokou...well, you know

>>7896938
Or because it's one of the famous cheat codes/sequence of buttons in video game history.


...this'll do something eventually, right? My gut says yes, but my finger says to go kill shit.

>>7896940
If you have Sakuya, you'll get a new formation if you kick Meiling enough. 256 times or so?

>>7896943
Oh, I need Sakuya?
Then all I did was make her say "Ow..." And "It (hurts)..."
I feel terrible.

>>7896902
Use electric spells. Marisa/Patchouli can easily take care of them. Or use Nitori as a commander to reduce their evasion to 0 (for one turn).

>>7896902
I'm a couple of stages past there, but this is the team I used for that side. I was just trying to learn a couple of skills there so I went back.
I'm not using a guide so I don't know if there is a better way to deal with it, but in my experience If you grab Marisa or Patchy you can kill those guys pretty easily with fire/thunder.

my entire party got hit by berserker when fighting reisen, then we still won without me being able to give a single order. sweet

>>7897082
that shit made me fear for my life. Reimu barrier or Private Square whenever Concentration popped up

>>7897082
I'd love to see the look on Reisen's face when that happen.

>Hahaha! Release your rage!
>...
>Ow! OW! Oh god, augh, stop, stop!

MP seems pretty scarce early on. Is there any way to restore it besides those healing circle things?
I've got Marisa whacking things with her staff, which helps marginally, but everyone else is mana starved quite a bit.

Go Machouli! Patchouli, lift those weights and bare those raw muscles!

For Marisa, get a broom and 20 points in broom tree to recover 6 mp per turn.

>>7897182
Get MP Regen/Vamp from character's unique weapon trees, or the staff tree if needed. Marisa should be using her broom though, especially since her synthesized weapons double her MP regen.

>>7897283
With Marisa I keep running out of bombs before MP even becomes an issue.

I love the Romancing Touhous 3.

>>7897291
Take it easy with the spammable 4mp magic missile and tier1 elemental skill.

>>7896895
Thanks, I never would have guessed the Konami code or waiting.

So what characters are available to the player?
I'm not interested in where, when, or how to get them; I just want to know who I can get.

>>7897789
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Characters

Run normally.
Game crashes just as Marisa appears in the unskippable opening cutscene.
Run under XP compatability.
Game crashes at the end of Yukari's bit in the opening conversation.
Run under W95 compatability.
Game works fine. Wait 1hr. Byakuren get. Forget how to save. Talk to Akyuu, was it? Anyway, I need to talk to her to get Mokou. Game crashes after her conversation scene. Lose Byakuren.

Fuck this, man.

>>7897869
Akyu can crash the game sometimes but it doesn't matter because you save by going to the menu. Someone uploaded a save at the beginning of the game with Byakuren and Mokou on the Shrinemaiden thread.

I just had the fabulous pleasure of getting ambushed by a enemy group in Inner Eientei. Not even running away was possible.

I like where this is going.

>>7897973
Also, the track playing there is some very fine music. Reminded me of the latest techno mausoleum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d972IJMYnng

>>7897960
I thought the game automatically saves when you leave a building? Going to the menu makes it save too.

Just finished SDM, Remi/Nitori was nothing special(I did have a full party though since I early grabbed Byakuren/Mokou). Some barrier is now trolling me at the Forest of magic, is there more than one doll to find for some barriers, or is there some other condition to pass?

>>7898172
just go and explore every corner (there are chests everywhere anyway...). The light green areas and the grass are passable

prepare your rectum for Alice though.

>>7898172
>is there more than one doll to find for some barriers

Yes. IIRC you need to find at least a couple of dolls to remove a barrier from an area or two.

>>7898176
I believe I've scoured all chests... found what appears to be an abandoned house, is that relevant? Also, to make it clear, my goal is to find multiple Alice dolls scattered around to unlock the next area?

>>7898190
Finally found that stray doll. Been running the Hakurei type formation, been ok so far, but are there some other solid formations?

>>7898200
Hinotori Skydance is popular because it is a (probably superior) variant of Hakurei Type. The latter puts your people closer together though, which helps Reimu healing.
look up the stat bonuses here
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Formations/Bonuses

>>7898190
Heretic. that was Marisa's house

Aya and Byakuren seem kind of shitty.

Has anyone bothered to find a balance between two different groups yet? There's 12 characters, and one group of 6 doesn't always have the endurance to clear all the mobs of a dungeon their level. So what I was thinking of doing from now on, now that most of my characters are all about the same level, is figure out who will fight along side each other permanently for regular mob clearing for two separate groups. I'm trying to make both groups about as strong as each other, or at the very least, not use all the most powerful characters in just one group and have the other one suck. This was the most balanced composition I could think of for both groups.

Team A:
Alice, Sakuya, Reimu, Nitori, Patchy
Commander: Satori

Team B:
Mokou, Youmu, Sanae, Aya, Marisa
Commander: Byakuren

Anyone think either team is way more overpowered than the other?

>>7898273
I had Youmu, Sakuya, Mokou, Aya and Reimu with Byakuren as the commander for Reisen's side and Alice, Marisa, Patchouli, Sanae and Satori with Nitori as the commander for Tewi's side and neither of the teams were underwhelming until I came to the bosses where I had to change Youmu with Satori.
As long as you have more physical damage on Reisen's side and more magical damage in Tewi's side you should be ok.

>>7898359
And not to mention the team that goes left is going against Reisen and right one for Tewi incase you didn't know this yet.

New thread!
>>7898431

>>7898273
While you could say they are balanced, you aren't actually using some of the characters quirks to the fullest either. Nitori really benefits from being with Sanae and Mokou over Reimu and Alice for example in anything but a 1 turn sweeping team.

I use both of these parties, and swap often depending on whether the majority of hard enemies in the area are dark/light weak or elemental weak:

Party 1: Melee+Light/Dark: Alice, Sakuya, Youmu, Byakuren, Reimu Commander: Aya (Swap with youmu for -res instead of turn manipulation)
Party 2: Elemental Melee+Magic: Mokou, Sanae, Nitori, Patchouli, Marisa Commander: Satori

Satori is the most powerful unit, so she gets swapped around depending on what is necessary along with Marisa, but she has very low endurance (hp and mp).
Ex. Need full screen dark, mys, or elemental attacks every turn? Satori instead of Marisa or Byakuren.
Need mys damage and strong elemental sniping with neutral melee? Marisa instead of Byakuren, swap reimu into a more healing spec because Byakuren can't patch heal or support, etc.

Party 1 has more endurance, can handle diverse groups easier, and can handle harder single target mobs much easier. Great for Angel / Demon types or other hard mobs.
Party 2 is more fragile, but has wide range elemental attacks and can easily use all charges of thunder or fire chaser. Great for elemental weak, high damage enemies.
Just my opinion, because I've found that having two balanced teams focusing on different strengths was much more effective than trying to make them the same power in everything.
I'm not done with the expansion levels yet though, so we'll see.