/jp/ - Otaku Culture

You took the effort to post a thread about this, so you must be the mad one here.

Only nerds care.

But Dra+Koi is mostly ero isn't it?
We all know that didn't actually translate any of it though, anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

> DraKoi translation status: menu/cg image editing: 100% script
Topic set by LoSs on Tue May 25 2010 08:16:10 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

>>7833292
shut thef uck up nerd

ITT: Moogi and his buttbuddies being jealous over how Ixrec and his merry cocksuckers overshadowed them with the double release.

>>7833303
Double release? It's a single release, everyone read MLA already.

What is with the western community being so skittish around ero scenes?

You know, I really don't get VN fans these days. If you can't appreciate a VN for what it is and translate it in its entirety, why even bother in the first place?

This is pathetic. Since when do you hear of fansubbers/scanlators acting immature and refusing to release translations of an anime/manga they enjoy because they aren't crazy about the fanservice scenes?

I don't get it. How the hell did fan-translators in the VN community get this elitist mentality that they deserve some sort of say in whether ero scenes belong in a title or not? Isn't that sort of decision reserved for the actual creators?

>>7833344
Most VN translators with "presence", for lack of a better term, are big headed pieces of hipster shit.

>>7833344
Some people are uncomfortable around ero.

Big fucking deal.

And he said he might release an incomplete translation anyway.

>>7833354

So how the hell did it get to this? How did they even get the idea that they can simply act like immature pieces of shit over a bit of adult content?

Don't they even realize that they're just acting like the same group of anti-sex prudes that they're afraid of getting persecuted by?

>And he said he might release an incomplete translation anyway.

He also said he would release it last Christmas.

>>7833356
>Some people are uncomfortable around ero.
If your a faggot.

>>7833369
I doubt he gives a shit what you think of him.

>>7833370
Well, hurry up and find somebody to translate the ero section if you want it out.

>>7833369
Because to get "presence" you need to act like that. Notice how translators like Makoto and Takajun don't seem to give a shit and just translate away, but those two have less "presence" compared to Ixrec and Moogy who are dramawhores and such.
inb4
>Moogy
>Translator
and all that.

I dont get how you can hate ero, when fucking doing vns and eroge. The whole vn community is a bunch of faggots,women and normalfags. we will never get any good nukige like this.

>>7833369

I doubt he gives a shit about the whole project, period. Over the past two years or so, there's been a serious lack of integrity within the translation community.

>>7833376
The ero has been translated since May 2010.

>>7833303
>how Ixrec and his merry cocksuckers overshadowed them with the double release.
What? What double release? Did I miss something?
Well, I'll just check Amat-
>Completed Projects
>Project #4 - Shikkoku no Sharnoth -what a beautiful tomorrow-
Pic related.

I think moogy needs to step down, somebody should just make a new wiki altogether.

>>7833344
A common argument that I've seen someone say is that ero doesn't translate too well and maintaining the original atmosphere is nearly impossible. I don't think that he wants the ero gone, he just doesn't want to touch it himself. Think of it like having to do a job and there's this bit of the job you really hate doing and you want to push it into someone else, but then you can't find someone to push it into. Fansubbers do this kind of shit all the time (there are cases with separate translators for OP, ED, signs, dialogue, whatever), but VN translators don't always have who to push the parts they don't want to do onto someone else.

>>7833391
Well, then he's just a faggot then.

Such is life around people.

This just screams attention whoring, it's the same BREAK THE SUPPORT DISC shit all over again.
When will they realize they are translating porn with plot for horny nerds and not some high form of art.

>>7833338
Because they don't really like eroge or 2D porn.

The Japanese creators tend to have a really good time while they create these scenes. They just love 2D porn that much.

>>7833399
I don't really think about the atmosphere much when my dick is out.

>>7833405
Or they love it too much and don't want it sullied by TRANSLATIONS.

>>7833356
read what you fucking wrote for a second and ask who is at fault here.

>>7833413
He is, but who gives a fuck.

Pretend he never translated it at all if it makes you feel better.

>>7833406
This just screams attention whoring, it's the same BREAK THE SUPPORT DISC shit all over again.
When will they realize they are translating books with plot for horny nerds and not some high form of art.

>>7833408
And that's why you are inferior to Moogy-dono, daring to fap to a visual novel. Only inferior peasants and the like do that.

I like how hes translating something that was made with porn but hates porn, its kind of ironic. I hate people like that, if he didn't want to translate vns or eroge,fuck off. I want the full package not some church and soccer mom regulated piece of shit. Its just as bad as censoring blood,guns,bad words. Where living in 2011 and these type of people still exist, it makes me sick.

>>7833399

If that's the case, then they SERIOUSLY need to reconsider why they're even translating titles they already know that have adult content in the first place. If they're so convinced that ero scenes often disrupt the flow and atmosphere, then why continue to waste time and energy bothering with titles they know they have adult content in the first place?

What are they trying to prove? It's not like their hobby will ever be seen as high art or anything like that.

Seriously, since when was it that difficult to enjoy a game for what it is, ero scenes and all?

>>7833434
>2011
>Where living
>these type of people still exist, it makes me sick
Pretty much.

>>7833434
We are*

>>7833399


If that's the case, then the community SERIOUSLY needs to consider expanding itself to be inclusive towards people who do happen to enjoy ero content, or even nukiges for that matter. Otherwise, they have no business trying to half-ass their way through with games known to have adult content. If they're so convinced that ero scenes often disrupt the flow and atmosphere, then why continue to waste time and energy bothering with titles they know that have adult content in the first place?

What are they trying to prove? It's not like their hobby will ever be seen as high art or anything like that.

Seriously, since when was it that difficult to enjoy a game for what it is, ero scenes and all?

>>7833434
> hates porn
You don't really understand his viewpoint (not that I claim to understand it myself). I know people who love their porn, but wouldn't want to ever translate it. It's way too common for translators. It's the difference between watching porn and making porn.

Why are normalfags and Christians translating visual novels? What has the world come to?

>>7833463
That makes no sense, I wouldn't feel anything, i would just be fucking translating it like i planned on. Im not a fucking 5 year old that thinks porn or sex is bad.

>>7833464
It's not a big leap from anime to VNs.

>>7833471
Not everybody is you.

>>7833480
Its called growing up and not being a kid.

>>7833471
>that doesn't make sense to me, therefore it's impossible for someone to feel that way
This is literally autistic.

>>7833485

It's also called having "balls" and "discipline". It also happens to be intrinsically related to not being a kid.

>>7833485
Not everybody uncomfortable around sex is a child.

>>7833485
Part of that is learning to accept that people walk in their own shoes and not yours. Also, that 99% of the time there are circumstances you don't understand. Maybe you'll get it in a few years.

>>7833497
It takes a real, courageous, disciplined man to translate his porn games all the way through.

>>7833500
I'll tolerate your faggotry so long as I can call you out on it.

lets translate eroge! I hate translating sex and porn so lets ruin it for all the fans and people who have been waiting for it and take it out!

>>7833500

Since when does anyone have to be empathetic towards someone who acts in a petty, immature manner?

>>7833507
Yes. Dra+Kol has been utterly ruined and nobody can enjoy it ever again. The people who put all that work into translating it must feel crushed.

>>7833479
I wonder what level of mental retardation has an artist of that picture. Must be a female.

>>7833501
It takes a dedicated man to decide not to do something they've proven they can because they accept that they are not the best suited person for the job. This can happen when people want something done right, and not just done now.

>>7833511
That's a good attitude to have.

You fucking faggot.

>>7833281
I refuse to translate a game unless it holds to traditional Christian values!

>>7833501

It also takes a courageous, disciplined man to do something he's uncomfortable with to share something he genuinely enjoys with everyone else.

>>7833510
Empathy != Understanding

Bitching about porn games on the internet is part of your definition of maturity?

>.I really don't care about "fans" reading it or anything.
>Anyway technically it's already translated, you just can't read it. If that makes you mad maybe you should learn Japanese.

Wouldn't say these things if his intention wasn't to obnoxiously inflate his self-worth.

You do actually get this kind of thing in scanlating/fansubbing, it's just that somebody's going to release it at some point so nobody really cares. Your tantrum just becomes a little stumble on the way to the fans getting a release, rather than a complete halt.

>>7833515

That's not "dedication", dumbass. That's called "poor planning" and "mismanagement" on the part of the creators.

>>7833531
He wanted to frustrate the people who would throw a huge bitchfest about it.

Looks like he succeeded.

>>7833532
You don't do many productive things, do you? Translators tend to choose projects that are special to them. They want to do a good job. If there was a portion of the project they didn't feel they could do a good job at, what are their options?

This isn't even hard.

>>7833525

I'm not bitching about a "porn game", I'm bitching about some dickhead who apparently willing to compromise a project he poured so much time and effort into just because he happens to be offended at certain parts of the game.

Really, he's putting his own personal feelings ahead of something he supposedly committed himself into doing.

>>7833531
Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games!

Why the fuck did he even translate it, hes the type that pisses off everybody. I wont be able to even read it knowing i cant play it 100%. This is what happens when you get normalfags into nerd territory, they fuck every thing up with their fucking retarded morals. If you dont want to translate something with porn, you fucking either stop or just translate it, instead of being a retard and removing things that you dont like. This vn is for losers and nerds, not fucking normal people, so dont shove your shit down are throats.

>>7833549
If he had been translating some Russian novel and backed out of it last-minute, you wouldn't give a shit, no? The problem is here is that Dra-Koi is not getting an English patch, not that somebody out there is being a faggot, self-destructive, or irrational, because there's a hundred million of those people out there.

There won't be any important plot points in the ero. It's not like he's refusing to let others take a stab at translating it. Remove your dicks from your asses and see a psych about your autism.

>>7833544

Gee wiz, man. If such a project was so special, as opposed to some half-assed attempt to gain attention over a relatively popular game, then maybe he could've actually looked through the game beforehand and properly planned things out?

>>7833515
I do agree it's a skill thing.

Let's face it: most fan translators are not actually writers themselves. IMO it's pretty hard to translate some erotic fiction when you have never written erotic fiction yourself.

>>7833556
Was he planning to translate the ero from the start, or did he get cold feet when he got to that part?

>>7833560
How about you leave.

>>7833565
Not that I'm aware of.

>>7833553
>normalfag

correction: troll

>>7833556
Take note everyone: make sure to hire a licensed project consultant before attempting fan translations. If you hit an obstacle, people on the internet will get mad.

>>7833560
Sup Moogy-dono.

>>7833549
>he's putting his own personal feelings ahead of something he supposedly committed himself into doing.
ISHYGDDT

>>7833554
>If he had been translating some Russian novel

Everybody that dies, dies a horrible and meaningless death, and nobody is happy by the end of the novel.

I have now ruined for you every Russian novel ever written.

>>7833580
You bastard.

>>7833580
Thanks for saving me all that time. Those thick fuckers take a lot of time to get through.

Fuck you moogy.

>>7833554

What the hell are you talking about? The creator IS being a "faggot", "self-destructive" and "irrational".

He's copping out of a nearly-finished project over what? Some ero-scenes?

Really, I have no reason to be empathetic with such people--As far as I'm concerned, they don't belong in the buisiness of translating eroge because they resent the idea of having "ERO" in the "GE". This whole issue with translators dramafagging and being pissy over content just makes the whole translation community counterproductive.

>>7833580
>I have now ruined for you every Russian novel ever written.

Not to mention life.

>>7833557

They can't write erotic fiction because they don't even bother READING erotic fiction. There's your problem right there.

>>7833600
It's not dramafagging if nobody makes a huge deal about it. "Somebody has translated most of a VN, but because he has autism problems he doesn't want to translate the ero, and because he is OCD he doesn't want to release an incomplete project, and because he has a variety of other mental problems he decided to take on the project anyway. We'd like to find a translator to finish the project." Why make a huge stink about it?

>>7833600
>they don't belong in the buisiness of translating eroge
>the buisiness of translating eroge
>buisiness of translating
>business
>they don't belong in the business
>belong in the business
>business
I'm glad we can establish that you are delusional.

>>7833613

It might as well be a business for them, considering how these faggots tend to treat attention like money.

What a idiot, a retard who cant take some porn is trying to translate eroge.

>>7833382
>Makoto and Takajun
Couldn't you at least try think of a decent translator for your argument?
There aren't any.

>>7833613
>business

Дело.

>>7833621
Of course, truly translating grorious nihongo into our inferior language is impossible.

>>7833613
>the buisiness of translating eroge
Jokes on you.
moogy and his buttbuddies are basically contractors for MG. Guess what, MG is releasing that weeaboo moege without PORN.

I really cant believe this but faggots are really starting to believe the below statements.
>Ero is holding back eroge.
>They could be so much more.

>>7833633
хуита

>>7833650
You mean JAST.

>>7833650
Maybe if you'd play a few, you'd also get tired of reading the same ero scenes over and over.

>>7833618

Then what the fuck are you even doing allowing a faggot with a mental problem transate the game in the first place.

And besides, aren't there already other known translators in your community? Why aren't you willing to volunteer yourselves to translate the ero for the good of the community?

Yeah, non-stink worthy there alright. You know why dramafagging happens? It's because we've seen way too much of this shit going on to be willing to put up with it.

You know a good way to solve this problem? When starting a project, don't tell the fucking community that you've started on a translation patch--Announce something when you've actually completed something.

>>7833661
My bad.
I always mix them up.

Cant believe the internet has come this low. All the true nerds have fallen and only normalfag/hipsters nerds are left.

>>7833650
Those contracts sure have been good business, haven't they? Jokes on them. My point stands.

>>7833669
There is a reason why I play EROge.
I read a book if I wanted plot with porn.
You should too.

>>7833671
>Then what the fuck are you even doing allowing a faggot with a mental problem transate the game in the first place.
I didn't "allow" him to do it. He did it himself. I have as much power to stop him from doing it as I do from preventing him from eating pancakes if he feels like eating pancakes.

>It's because we've seen way too much of this shit going on to be willing to put up with it.
And instead you're going to whine about it. Way to prevent drama from happening there.

>When starting a project, don't tell the fucking community that you've started on a translation patch--Announce something when you've actually completed something.
Yeah, otherwise /jp/ might get frustrated.

>>7833677
You heathen. Mixing glorious Peter Payne-sama's creation up with that of that fat pig bamboo.
Reported for defiling something or other.

>>7833669
There is a reason why I play EROge.
I read a book if I wanted plot without porn.
You should too.

Don't see what all the frustrations about. We all knew it would never be released anyways.

>>7833687
>Borrowed Western words, this etymology must make a sound argument because superior Nippon, right?
There's a reason I read visual novels. It's because books are fucking boring.

>>7833650
>much m

>>7833685

I don't get it. If you're willing to look down on /jp/ why the hell are you even coming down here and trying to "correct" us or "stop the drama" as if we're somehow inferior and incapable of thought? You belittle us, you consider us as ignorant, yet our voices are somehow important enough that you want to drag your ass down here and "teach us a lesson". Pathetic.

Oh wait a sec, you're just another troll. Silly me.

>>7833702
Please don't pretend to speak for /jp/. You may also want to stop posting in general.

>>7833685
How about you go back to were you came from.
>>7833692
This, why even bother translating eroge if you cant translate porn? what was he thinking?

Remember when Moogy made that post about MangaGamer censoring Soul Link?

>>7833702
I don't look down on /jp/ as a whole, I look down on people who make a huge fuss over idiotic drama. These are not the same thing.

>You belittle us, you consider us as ignorant, yet our voices are somehow important enough that you want to drag your ass down here and "teach us a lesson". Pathetic.
Flaming retarded children is the best part of /jp/.

>Oh wait a sec, you're just another troll. Silly me.
Right, everybody who disagrees with you is a troll. I forgot.

>>7833650

>>7833718
Maybe he liked the story, but doesn't want to write ero.

>>7833736
I don't understand that perspective, therefore that is impossible.

>>7833746
Imagine a girl who wants to voice some project for free but is uncomfortable with doing H-scenes. It's like that, except it's a mentally imbalanced male instead of a female.

>>7833751
Haha,no.

>>7833758
Haha, yes 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　

/jp/, this man is trying to avoid lewd things. When did you get so lewd?

>>7833751
>uncomfortable with doing H-scenes

Fucking stupid

>>7833281
Speaking of TLwiki images I wonder if anyone still have that picture comparing the VN translation scene to Mobile Suit Gundam.

>>7833730
no porn no play lol xD

>>7833792
Yes. Don't ask me to find it though. I'm not digging through my "Stuff" folder for you Anon.

>>7833812
If you find it turn moogy into some faggot character,like katz.

>>7833792
Hold on.

>[23:26] <herkz> i like how it all started because some retard thinks the ero isn't translated
>[23:27] <herkz> and moogy is stalling

>[23:29] <herkz> you can't convince retards on /jp/
>[23:29] <herkz> dont even try :(

>[23:30] <herkz> i like how no one has brought up
>[23:30] <herkz> that the ero is translated
>[23:30] <herkz> reading that thread actively lowers your intelligence

>[23:31] <Moogy> the ero is not translated though?
>[23:31] <Moogy> otherwise i would have released it
>[23:31] <Moogy> wtf are you talking about

I love how moogy's cocksucker got told by the very person he sucks up to.

>>7833853
Rather out of date. Oh well.

>>7833857

>>7833879
Moogy is no where near fucking char, hes fucking katz, fucking retarded and useless.

>>7833872
Oh god, the Sunflower devs box makes me laugh harder than it should.

>>7833857

This is why Moogy is superior

>>7833857
herkz status:
[] TOLD
[] NOT TOLD
[X] DRA†TOLD

>>7833857
fucking roasted son.