/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>I'm currently in the process of writing a story that i'm eventually hoping to make into an anime, manga, or something of the sort.

I can't wait for your dreams to be crushed.

Normal hair colors are boring

pure trolling or half trolling?

If it's a story, hair color doesn't matter as it shouldn't be mentioned that often if at all. In a comic, everything would be black and white anyway. Also white hair is a "normal" color.

1) It won't change the value of your characters if you're a good artist or got a good artist.
2) It won't take away from realism; that mostly comes from other things like the story or the character's personalities.

It the end hair color is mostly up to the personal tastes of the creator and doesn't really affect much. Go with whatever you personally enjoy.

First, these aspirations are mostly ridiculous. Even were you insanely talented, there isn't an appetite for Western authors writing manga or anime.

To be honest, the only way I can ever see this working would be to write something that was extremely commercially successful. After that, you could leverage existing IP or use contacts to create IP on condition that it take anime/manga form.

Plus, keep in mind that often anime hair colors can also be a perception of differentiated black hair. When you're in a country with a lot of people with black hair, there are subtle differences. Those can be captured using exaggerated colors.

Most adaptations of light novels tend to have characters with standard hair colors suddenly get interesting hair colors in their animated forms.

Still, this reads a lot like an 8th grade American boy fantasizing about being a Mangaka.

The Japanese remain a largely xenophobic nation. They have a different alphabet for anything not Japanese. That should give you an idea of just how ridiculous your ideal is.

Say it's dyed & do what you want.

>>7786249
And by "value" I mean aesthetic value as you earlier stated.

>Even were you insanely talented, there isn't an appetite for Western authors writing manga or anime.

Were someone to take a Japanese pen name and make something the equal of any Japanese manga, but later you found out they were western, would you stop reading it and hate it thereafter even if you liked it before?

>>7786248

I know, it's not a big deal right at the moment, but I still think it plays a considerable role in their overall uniqueness as well. I think I might just go with any color I want, but yeah i'm curious what other people think about this.

Remember to submit your work to Marvel so Madhouse can animate it in an upcoming season.

>>7786252

That's what i'm planning to do. I'm going to try and write it as a novella and hopefully have it become popular enough to take to Japan.

I know it sounds ridiculous, but I do have ambitions. I've gone through a lot and it won't be the end of the world for me if it fails, it's just that i've been having a lot of fun storycrafting and I think this might be a legitimately good story. Even if it does fail, I can't say that I haven't been enjoying myself every step of the way in making it. I think that's really all that matters anyways, if you can find something you enjoy doing and at the same time have the potential to create something that might interest others, it seems like a pretty good deal to me.

I understand how big isolation is in Japan. That's actually one of the themes i'm exploring in the story itself, among a wide number of other things. I'm very interested in not only a lot of things about the Japanese culture, but also their psyche as well, and I think that's a very interesting thing to explore while also blending it with an interesting, fun, action/adventure type of story as well.

>>7786262
What the fuck are you talking about?
They love the us!
Hell the composer for Fate/stay night is a gaijin

I hope you can write in Japanese well.

>>7786262
Cute fantasies and childish "philosophical" questions are not going to get you published.

Getting published in manga alone takes a lot of connections, in person meetings, work with publishing companies, work with public relations, etc. The few people who write under pen names do that only after they have made industry contacts. Being white is not going to get you those contacts.

Keep in mind, the standard for Manga isn't exactly a high bar. There are thousands of terrible Manga. They do not usually get published based on merit. They get published based on connections, marketability, etc.

Coincidentally, it's also the same for a lot of book publishing.

But I do want to assure you that your goal is stupid. It sort of doesn't matter because you actually cannot accomplish it. Show me an American white guy who is a famous Mangaka or that even earns enough doing it to make a living? Look at the names of anime directors and writers and find me some English ones?

I understand you grew up in a culture of Racial Egalitarianism. Japan is not like that. They really do care whether or not you are Japanese.

And not capitalizing "I", not using a comma after "Dear /jp/"... none of this says "I have the ability to technically execute". Creatively, most of this stuff is garbage, but I don't think you have the technical ability to execute on the garbage you are thinking.

>>7786293
Most animators don't even have a picture.

Op should make h-doujins first.

>Do you guys think its very distracting having characters with unnatural hair colors?

Not at all.

>>7786293
>Look at the names of anime directors and writers and find me some English ones?
Does Big O count?

Also >>7786262 != >>7786237

>>7786237
Make a light novel. You don't have to write well. You don't have to draw as much. If it's about vampires, girls will eat it up.

>I'm currently in the process of writing a story that i'm eventually hoping to make into an anime, manga, or something of the sort.
>this might be a legitimately good story

I don't think so, weeaboo.

>>7786310
old women have been known to dye their hair blue. Marge isn't abnormal.

>>7786237
Madoka is one of those shows that proves yuribait is as bad or worse than yaoibait.

Although I can almost guarantee you 99.9% that you're going to get nowhere with this, OP, it has been done before. Deltora Quest was turned into an anime a few years back.

That being said,
http://vndb.org/v7682
I think you should read this first. It's relevant to whatever you're doing when you have aspirations like that.

I think that making a VN of your story could be pretty interesting, keep in mind that making into an anime or manga is just quite silly for the Japanese industry.

With creating a VN of that story you could establish a base for your work in a better media and people possibly would be interested in your story.

tl;dr just make something more agile to read, like a VN, and people could be interested in.

>>7786319

She always had blue hair, like this wiener here.

Don't forget OP, the most important part of being a writer is self-insertion and wish fulfillment.

What is the story about?

I heard somewhere that in anime hair colours are related to the pesonalities of characters or something like that

>>7786367
You heard from an over-analyzing english major. They're more often used in color themes than anything.

>>7786237
Didn't read, all I wanna know is will it have women with dem tits and dat ass and will they whore themselves to everyone?

>>7786237
>I'm currently in the process of writing a story that i'm eventually hoping to make into an anime, manga, or something of the sort.
The only way a western story is going to be made into something like that is if you are a famous marvel artist. Because only they make western stories into anime no one else.

So many negative Nancys in here. Listen OP if you want to create something, then do it. It might suck at first but if you keep creating, then it will eventually be something great.

Also once you do something really well enough there is always someone out there who will pay you for what you do. This applies to everything imaginable, so keep on working hard Anon.

>>7786378
So one day even I can be a porn star?

>>7786383
Sure, I don't see why not.

Might be harder for a guy than a girl though. Dunno how the porn industry works really.

Japan loves america,seriously.
Some of the most popular anime/manga have references to American films and animation.

1.Panty and stockings
2.FLCL
3.I forget

Colorful hair, special traits. Normal hair colors and traits are kinda boring if all the characters are that way.

>>7786293

Okay, I think I probably got off on the wrong foot here. I didn't mean to present myself so pretentiously in my OP, I just wanted to give a short intro, but yeah. To spread it out more, right now i'm just planning on writing it and releasing it as a book (or maybe a VN/Light Novel), or even an e-book that i'll publish myself. I didn't mean to say it's going to be so amazing that it goes straight from me to Japan and is made into an anime next season. I'll start off simple and work my way through it.

While you do have a point in some of the things you say, I don't think you should undermine me just yet. First of all, I haven't even revealed what themes, questions, morals, and fantasies i've decided to use, so I think you're assuming too much here. Also, I know my writing isn't top notch either, but i'm not going to let something small like that stop me. I'm sure i'll be able to get around that by either fixing it myself or getting outside help from others. But anyways...

>>7786380
>Because only they make western stories into anime
There are lots of books that were made into anime.

Yes, I know it is a long-shot, and it probably might be as hard as you say it is, but to be honest, even if the chances are low, I really don't think it's truly /impossible/. By the way, that's where all the fun is, anyways. Being able to learn, grow, and experience these things for myself.That's why i'm going to keep working at it. Even if it might be right on the brink of impossible, the fact that there is even a remote chance that it can be accomplished is more then enough for me, and I really do think there is.

There's a lot of other things I'm planning to do anyways aside from this. I didn't mean to give off the impression that this was the only thing that I wanted to do in life and this was the only purpose I had for living. It's just a goal that i've set out to accomplish.

Again, even if this doesn't work and it turns out that you were completely right, i'm not going to hold it against you or anything, nor am I going to let it get to me as much as you probably think it will either. I appreciate your insight, I know that i'm probably going to have to hear things like this a lot, but it's fine. That's just how the journey works.

You can call me crazy as much as you want. I'm not going to deny it, since I probably am insane.

>>7786277
-Does OP know Japanese fluently?
-Is OP currently, if not, planning to take up residency in Japan?
-Is OP well versed in Japanese culture, both modern and past?
-Have OP ever won any awards for his writing?
-Does OP have a talented illustrator friend to pair up with him? (Not necessary, but it does make a much more attractive package)

OP should consider entering some LN contest just to see whether not he even have a shot

Doesn't tokyopop still take english manga writers?

>>7786407
Tokyopop is as dead as Stu Levy's business sense

>>7786407
Yes,but no one takes those seriously and are mostly laughed at.

>>7786412
So why is the western fandom so elitist and won't allow anyone not Japanese a chance?

>>7786422
Because something published in the Us can't be called "manga"?

I didn't find the unnatural hair color in my favorite American manga distracting.

>>7786422
Did you ever actually look at tokyopop manga? The creators set themselves up for that reaction. Anyone serious about making comics isn't stupid enough to make "manga" unless they're personally moving to Japan.

>>7786363
It is a Sci-Fi (Super Power)/Supernatural/Psychological story for the most part. I don't want to say much of it since it could probably change drastically at any moment, but it revolves around an American otaku who finds himself thrown into Japan, which is suffering from a new, unknown epidemic. One of the centralized themes of the story revolves around the Japanese psyche and how it differs from the American psyche. The Hikikomori phenomenon is also one of the big things explored as well.

>>7786374
The closest thing that I can think of currently is a little girl (5-6?) getting almost-raped by a pedophile. Otherwise, there isn't much sexual stuff going on.

>>7786405
No to all of these at the moment, they are definitely on my list of things to think about though.

OP, do you have any concept art of your characters you can upload?

Why do you use madoka images for your shitthreads?

>>7786440

>I know my writing isn't top notch either, but i'm not going to let something small like that stop me
>It is a Sci-Fi (Super Power)/Supernatural/Psychological story for the most part

I look foward to seeing your terrible book in the bargain bin with other self published tripe.

>>7786446
>upload to fanfic site
>ctrl+h and replace with meduca naems
>get half a million hits

>>7786441

To be honest, right now i'm focusing on getting the story itself ironed out first and foremost. That's the funny thing about this thread... I kind of just wanted to have a little discussion on hair color, but it seems like it turned into something a bit bigger then that.

I just recently started focusing on the characters' looks, so the small amount of ideas I have so far on them are only in my head currently.

>>7786440
Madoka was an easy example of unnatural hair color schemes.

ITT the latest webcomic gets planned.

>>7786446

we will see, motherfucker

>>7786252
>Megatokyo
There was also some other guy who used to draw western style comics and now does horrible mangaesque comics

You can be terribad at drawing "manga" style. You just have to accept that tweenage weeaboos and gaiafags are going to be your fans.

>it revolves around an American otaku who finds himself thrown into Japan

Jesus fucking christ

typical Madoka fanbase

Sup' /jp/, I'm thinking about making a comic about naked loli catgirls.

Is this a good idea Y/N?

>>7786468
No, because chances are you can't draw.

>>7786468
Yes because you called it a comic.

>>7786461
Also at least 20 titles in the Tokyopop lineup. I remember they used to publish this terrible one in the sunday comics.

If Miss Coope here can get published why not OP?

>>7786468
Catwoman: Before the Vinyl Suit

Cat girl was an orphan abandoned by her mother and raised by the feral cats of New York. Read to learn more about Catwoman's childhood past!

Focus on writing a good story first and amassing enough funding that you can bribe your way past their xenophobia. Chances are, your story, if not abandoned, will spectacularly mutate into something not completely shit as a result of updating it constantly while being influenced by your experiences.