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I liked both of the stage 6 themes.

>>7739237
why???

>>7739293
Did you just ask someone why they liked a certain music track?

hurr

I'm guessing because it sounded pleasant to them.

>>7739293
dat untz, man, dat untz.

Stage 4 boss music is fucking great, lower your standards

At least it's better than the failure that the UFO soundtrack was.

>>7739315
This. The only UFO songs that were memorable were the stage 4 boss and extra boss themes.

Pretty shitty compared to most of the other games where the songs are almost all good.

>>7739228
First of all, you have shitty taste.
Secondly, get the fuck out.

reported.

the extra song fits the stage

the stage 4 music is the best ZUN song I've heard for fucking years. go listen to it again.
the stage 4 boss music is ok too.
Everything else hasn't grown on me yet, but I like the trumpet blast in the stage 6 boss.

I thought the extra stage and stage 6 boss music was funky. I like how mellow the stage 5 boss music was.

>>7739315
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ehKblhOfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo4O4g0GfTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oayu297xrns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofuPQIPotn0

eat shit

>>7739315
The only tracks I liked in UFO was the stage2 and 4-6 music, and the boss music for stage 5. Extra stage music was good too.
Besides that there were way too many trumpets tootin' the shit out

>>7739345
OP here
yeah, the only good track for me is the 4 stage.
but i really dislike the rest of the music

i really love this track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK41AQNXhl8

>>7739315

UFO was god tier after Stage 4. Stage 2 and 3 though weren't that good.

>>7739315

I thought UFO was very hit or miss. It had some of my favorite themes in the series while the rest felt lackluster.

>>7739339
>UFO tracks are shitty

yeah, OP here again.
i love all the tracks of UFO and no, im not a hipster or retard.

just listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDNsk2UXYE4

Get better speakers.

even the arrange is great

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCVomT0ljHI

You think it's shit because you never got to stage 6.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aca3f9OYcXs

/jp/ continues to prove itself as the worst community on the internet

can't wait until after comiket finishes so I can fuck off back to /g/

>>7739487
You don't have to wait, we'd also perfer you just fuck off.

>>7739487
Please leave /jp/

>>7739487
/g/'s not too bad except for the 2011 shit. You sir are full of shit if you think /jp/ really is "the worst community on the internet", however. Feel free to get out anytime, I hate outsiders so the sooner you're out of here, better it is for me.

>>7739487
go back to /g/ you fat fuck

What the fuck are you on, OP? The only tracks that aren't too good out of what you posted are the stage 5 ones. Shut up.
For the record, what are your favorite Touhou BGMs?

>>7739487
I'll wipe your mouf w/ my dick

I like the soundtrack, fuck you all.

>>7739514
>>7739554
>>7739555
>>7739557
Don't reply to retards.

The music in stages 1-3 sounded pretty damn awesome when combined with the trance track. Is someone doing that for the rest of the stages now that the full game's out?

>>7739562
Stage 1: Night Sakura of Dead Spirits
Stage 1 boss: Because princess inada is scolding me
Stage 2: Dark road
Stage 2 boss: Dark side of fate
Stage 3: Shanghai Teahouse - Chinese Tea
Stage 3 boss: Plain asia
Stage 4: Retribution for the Eternal Night
Stage 4 boss: Satori Maiden
Stage 5: Lullaby of demonic hell
Stage 5 music: The Tiger patterned Vaisravana
Stage 6 music: Voyage 1969
Stage 6 boss: Suwa Foughten Field
Extra stage: Romance in the night sky
Extra boss: Hartmann's youkai girl

I thought the soundtrack was all right, but I'm really looking for a download of the Memories of Phantasm ova that was released. Download links anywhere?

>>7739629
>Stage 3 boss: Plain asia

>>7739629
Oh, I like your taste.
Just give the TD music a bit more time and you'll see how they're not as bad as you think, even though some of them (like stage 5 boss) only work well while playing. It fits the character of that boss, but listening to it outside isn't something I think I will enjoy doing.

I personally wasn't a fan of yuyuko's track in the first stage.

Though that may be because of how often she murdered me.

God I suck at touhou.

>>7739648
yeah, maybe you are right.
i just listened the OST in my work, bad idea ever.

>>7739650
Necrobrotent complaining about his skills at every chance he gets.

Maybe he needs to start to hold shift for focused movement.

Consider the following: Because Yuyuko's the only boss from the older games, she gets an "older" sounding theme, so Ghost Lead is the only boss theme with the iconic ZUN trumpets.

Clever, huh?

I like the overall game. Decent characters, good music, fun and lasting gameplay.

>>7739713
>Decent characters

>>7739671
I only bitch when a new game comes out and reminds me how bad I am.

I'm so easy mode its not funny ;_;

>>7739733
EX stage is only one that WTF worthy. Others are decent.

>>7739733
God forbid people have opinions. Sure is /v/'s hate everything attitude in here. Just be glad we even got a new touhou game you stuck up fucks.

I'm worried this sounds like generic ambient videogame muzak, rather than character motifs.
I don't think even the arrangers could make this interesting.
Then again I didn't really give it a chance to grow on me yet, so there's hope.

>>7739835

>>7739835

I've already grown attached to the stage 6 boss theme. I thought it was merely decent at first, but for some reason I'm listening to it more than usual and I don't know why.

>>7739784
>Just be glad we even got a new touhou game you stuck up fucks.
That's like saying JUST BE GLAD WE EVEN GOT A NEW CALL OF DUTY GAME I MEAN GOSH WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU

any links to music files yet?

So any methods to prevent the game from crashing after the EX's survival card? I'd like to mop that up before I resume my other Touhou endevours.

>>7739907
bombing at the end.

I thought the music was really good, especially stage 6 boss theme.

The music is definitely better than UFO's, but still one of the weaker Touhou soundtracks in my opinion. Though I do like that ZUN is experimenting with different styles and instrumentation lately.

>>7739941
You're definitely a faggot.

>>7739941

I like the fact that he's trying new instruments as well. I hope that once he gets them down he can make a better soundtrack. I really like parts of the stage 5 boss theme because of the instruments he picked, but other parts of it feel weak. Even so, it's one of the better stage 5 boss themes I think.

The only thing I dislike about Ten Desires so far is Mima not being the extra boss. Everything else seems pretty alright to me. The characters and music will grow on me, I suspect. I mean, it's happened before

these threads make me sad.
why do you people insult each other for no good reason? music taste in individual so you have no right to complain about it.
Me? well i thought TD soundtrack was really nice
i love it how ZUN is experimenting musical genres

>>7739985

I like talking about the game music, don't know why. Anyways, the music is starting to grow on me more, I'm liking it I must say.

I for one really enjoy my stage 6 space mausoleum electro DJ saint

Just a question, but does anyone else have completely bugged replays? It shows me dying in many places where I don't no matter where I start the replay at and it makes me sad.

>>7739967
But why the hell should Mima be the Extra boss goddammit she isn't even a DIVINE spirit and has no relation to the plot at all
Take your tanuki and enjoy the fact that Nue has a friend now and shut the fuck up about Mima, and try taking off your nostalgia glasses as well jesus fuck

I kinda like stage 4 and 6's music.

Its different.

>>7740330
indeed!
i'm sick of these desperate Mima fanboys claiming "this game sucks" only because it has no Mima in it. Face it
she is DEAD

>>7740318
Replays desync as Youmu if you skip while watching a replay, I believe.

>>7740318
This is a glitch with the engine that ZUN hasn't fixed since it first showed up in MoF. Try starting the replay from different stages, or not ctrling through any of it and see if it still won't work.

>>7740361

I see, so I'll need to start from all the way at the beginning if I want to watch my Youmu replays then? Well, that's a bit of a relief at least, my first Normal 1cc replay isn't worthless then. It's still annoying though.

>>7740369

I actually haven't experienced it except in SA. But yeah, it's annoying because I really like to treasure my first 1cc of a game, and I don't want it to go to waste.

I like the music. Though it's definitely not as strong as UFO.

>>7739228
I trip over my own ass as I please like corn on peas! Therefore, your entire argument is completely and utterly invalid and incorrect, and mine is correct! Your cheeks are such garbage that I would crumple them up and throw them right into a dumpster on sight!

Also, Desire Drive is excellent; I can't stop listening to it.

>>7740414
this. I like Shoutoku Legend ~ True Administrator quite a lot, but Emotional Skyscraper and the other songs are just too magnificent and memorable

>>7740354
>>7740330
>Prologue
>No relation to the plot whatsoever

okay.jpg

Also, it annoys me that despite outright stating in my post that the absence of Mima is the only thing I actually dislike the game, you pair of faggots tried to pin me as some nostalgiafag with irrational hatred towards the game. Read the damn post, will you? It's a fine game. I just wish ZUN hadn't decided to troll the shit out of us with all that talk of vengeance and resurrections just to give us some tanuki

>>7740478
what do you mean?
ZUN did add Mima
see

UFO and TD OST are both great, and that of course is my opinion, just like you have your own. Stop being retarded /jp/.

>>7740496

she was a lot cooler when I though her feet wear a massive hook

Just beat it on easy mode.
Felt so rewarding

People don't like UFO OST? I loved both stage and boss themes from stage 4-6 (except maybe Fires of Hokkai). Admittedly I didn't really like Stage 5 theme and the boss theme but it really grew on me after a while.

Haven't been paying a great deal of attention to the music in Ten Desires so far since I've only played it once. A few more runs through will make the later themes stick in my head before I can whether it's really good or bad. At any rate, I really like the Stage 3 Boss theme, looking forward to hearing some arranges of it in the future.

Disappointment due to high expectation general?

At first I was disappointed about UFO too back then but now I have grown to like everything about it, the characters,the music and the fights.

For this game I decided to have no expectations.
I think it's great and I will surely like it even more once I know more about the characters and the story

I like UFO OST better than, say, older ones like PCB and IN cause it's so upbeat and matches the atmosphere of the game perfectly, starting right from stage 1

>>7739228

You have bad taste.

Oh Jesus fuck I just wanted to ask whether the Shinreibyou GST was any good.
I can't play it for at least a month due to work overload.
Now there's like a thousand of you faggots, OPINIONS everywhere.

So, how are the characters and music compared to, say, earlier Win games?
Also, what's the novelty gameplay system everyone hates this time?

>>7741932
Quality post.

bump

Yeah I really didn't like any of the music in this game like the others. Pretty big disappointment overall, but I haven't been expecting much from Touhou since IN.

>>7741254

>Liking UFO soundtrack more than PCB

You are entitled to your own opinion, but I am still bewildered by it.

Am I the only one who wants to see a Murasa Vs Futo naval battle?

>>7741932
What I can tell you in short, objectively, is that no th13 songs (except Ghost Lead, and maybe Rigid Paradise) have ZUN trumpets.

I personally like the change, but your results may vary.

>>7742036

When I saw Futo's boat, I thought more of Komachi actually.

>>7742026
Just for the record, I said that I like it better because I felt that it was really appropriate for the game atmosphere, but in any case I think it's better, specially because some of my favorite tracks are form PCB, like Necrofantasia. Actually that's my favorite song.
I guess I just like upbeat and happy songs, like the ones in stages 1-3.

I don't care what anyone thinks. I love this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L04fNGH1s6g

Anyone have problems running this on Windows 7? I ran the game fine (on XP), but my friend can't get it to run on his machine (it locks up on the now loading screen) and I've never had a problem running a Touhou game before, so I can't really advise him.

>>7742047
I meant to say that the PCB soundtrack is better than the one form UFO. Today I'm a little retarded

>>7742059

All the newer Touhou games lock up for me sometimes. It's more common with the vsync patch on the newer games. If restarting the comp won't work, upgrade DirectX.

If it still doesn't work then download this, it worked for me: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QKWNYIAZ

>>7742059
Does the game disable Aero when you run it?

Since this is a music thread, I'd like to ask. Are there any nice arrangements of Suwa foughten field?

>>7742059

Occasionally mine doesn't start up, but it'll usually work for me. The biggest problem I have is lag. This game lags at certain points, especially against Yoshika, and the only other time a Touhou game ever lags on me is when I freeze a crazy amount of bullets in Fairy Wars.

>>7742069
The only time the game lags is at the end of stage 4, when a massive number of enemies star spawning and therefore a great number of souls are in screen

Hate to request shit, but has anyone uploaded the OST with normal and trance versions?

Even though it was easier than previous ones, I liked the EX Stage, especially with the spell cards, like swastika frogs, furry Reimu, clones and 'Holy Jesus. What are these goddamn animals.'

>>7742059
Update directX

>>7742066
>>7742070
>>7742091

Yeah, I told him it was probably directx, but his troubles are compounded because he has no internet all weekend due to an outage and thus can't download the files he needs.

I'll have him try that whenever get gets his connection back tomorrow, thanks for the advice.

Phone tech support is fun.

Does somebody already ripped the music out of the game yet?

When I reacehd stage 4 I had an epiphany; TD is the best touhou game ever, it's better than sex with (insert you're touhou here) even.

How come there is no score.dat in the Touhou 13 dir? Looks like I'll never play the Extra stage. ;_;

>>7742212
The config's in %APPDATA% now isn't it? Where it actually belongs.

listen to the title theme again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIj7v_RupaI
the musical theme in TD is "heavy drums". I for one like it.

>>7742212
Is there even any scoreth.dat out already?

take mine.
http://www.mediafire.com/?tezbk46s2enbffe

it goes in C:\Users\anon\AppData\Roaming\ShanghaiAlice/th13

"anon" being your user profile. make sure you can see invisible folders.

Man, after playing Youmu for a while it feels weird to go back to a normal shot type. I may have completely ruined my habits in the other games with TD, but I'm not sure.

>>7742427
Youmu can devastate everything in the stages, but her focused shot behaviour makes dodging in boss fights super difficult. I just got curbstomped by Kyouko Lunatic again.

I like how ZUN added old characters, and while it is debatable if making the game easier was a good choice, but holy fuck we have like 10 enemies.
Also Extra final spell card was a let down, and when she changes into Reimu for that third last spellcard, he could of made her take the form of the current player.

>>7742436

I've gotten used to her weird dodging somewhat, but you really need to be aggressive with her, which is something I really like now. I'm playing Sanae right now and even though I don't smash right through spellcards, it's definitely easier to dodge. I hope this aggressive playstyle doesn't carry over to the other games or I may have made myself worse.

>>7742439
Makes you wonder how did the tanuki know Reimu beforehand even when playing as other characters.

I guess she didn't arrive recently after all.

>>7742454
my theory is that she was a primary

>>7742454
Nue probably told her.

anyone else think Mamizou would look better without the glasses? or is this ZUN's method of making her look traditional?

Okay, I was wondering why some people were complaining about the stage 4 boss, but then I played against her with Sanae. I actually did have some troubles against her because of Yoshika.

Why so much discussion on the worst game of C80?

>>7742496

Why is the 6-4 Overdrive spellcard so disappointingly easy? Only took me one try to beat. Dammit, ZUN.

I like TD very much. When compared to other Touhous, it almost feels like a traditional STG.

>>7742536
Seiga's overdrive is giving me alot of trouble.

Okay, after playing for a while I feel as if Youmu is the easiest shot type to beat the game in Normal with once you get the hang of her. Sanae wasn't powerful enough to get some of the spirits I wanted in Trance mode.

Get ready for some Opinions

Ten Desires Music:
>Menu
>Stage 3 Boss
>Stage 4 Boss
>Ex Stage
>Ex Stage Boss

Undefined Fantastic Object Music:
>Menu
>Stage 1 Boss
>Stage 2 Boss
>Stage 4
>Stage 4 Boss
>Stage 6
>Stage 6 Boss
>Ex Stage
>Ex Stage Boss
>Ending

>>7742554
It's the hardest card in this game after all. It's like if Iku combined her DS curvy laser ball card with fantasy heaven.

>>7742550
Serious? Bullets won't even kill you in this game.

Running into fairies that spawn on top of you or from the sides will.

>>7742556
Sanae is the worst shot type, I think. Reimu is great, 1cc'd normal on my second try with her.

>>7742607

I haven't used Reimu outside of the demo yet, so I'm not sure. All I know is that Youmu makes the Seiga battle much easier for me since Yoshika can't block slashes.

Why does Marisa feel so weak...

Barely do any damage while shotgunning

>>7742617
I think she does more damage if you shotgun unfocussed.

>>7742607
nah, I think Marisa is the one being shit on by ZUN.

Focused shot weaker than Reimu, equal to Sanae? check.
Unfocused a pile of shit, barely better than Sanae? check.
Narrow range? check.
obfuscating visual effect of focused shot, which is a problem during shotgun? check.

trance is pretty cool though

>>7742631
Don't forget fucking annoying laser SE when unfocused.

>>7739322

>UNTZ UNTZ

Now I know how her hair got like that...

UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ

>>7742694
She's flat.

>>7742662
Marisa's focused shot sounds like 霧雨.

>>7742712
OK, that was pretty funny.

>>7742697

UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ

>>7742754
Not.

UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ

>>7742687
DJ YOUKAI!!!!!!!!!!!

>>7742662
FWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

tap tap tap tap tap

Playing Marisa is truly a pain.

>>7743165

That's actually one of the reasons I feel like playing as Marisa right now.

What the hell did they do to Sanae's shot... It's horrible now.
Her previous shots were way better, especially exploding frogs.

biggest disappointment of this fucking year
god fucking dammit 2011
you mean /jp/ was the biggest disappointment of this fucking year. We went nowhere but down in quality.

>>7743213
Really? I always liked the kanako type Sanae in UFO. And I think Youmu is kinda hard to control, since I tend to stay relatively away from the bosses, Marisa is shit as is unfocused Reimu. And since focused Reimu is almost the same as Sanae, I prefer playing with her. It's almost as she is the "Neutral" character, without outstanding points nor weaknesses

>>7743206
What "we" do you speak of?

>>7743206
Maybe it's because it's your first comiket?

>>7743232
Reimu is pretty good in everything.
Focused does very good damage.
Unfocused has wide spread, allows you to hit enemies behind you or right next to you, damages bosses while you are not under them.

Refrain is better than this shit.

>>7743213
TD's shot is what Sanae looks like when she isn't abusing her goddesses. I don't hate it.

>>7743260
rebrank is better than zoon

>>7743256

How does she fare on the stages of harder difficulties? I know she generally does well against bosses, but stages kind of seem like a problem since Sanae didn't handle stages particularly well either.

>>7743288
Stage 1 Lunatic can become a bit chaotic, but she can easily kill every fairy on the screen.
Normal fairies and spirits are mostly killed with focus fire anyway since you simply have to move from left to right or vice versa. They simple melt away.
The 3,4,5 fairy group before/after Kyouko midboss can be killed by quickly flying from one side to the other without focus. I couldn't do that with Marisa's lasers.
In Extra, the large fairies at the beginning can focused and killed before they even enter the screen

I haven't played with Sanae that much, but don't remember her taking significantly longer to clear the screen.

>>7743321

Okay, I see. I've had a couple troubles with certain fairies with Sanae such as the seven at the end of stage 5, but then again it may be because I'm comparing her to Youmu who is meant to kill stuff quickly.

Marisa hasn't had a good shot since PCB.

Sanae shot is okay, though boring, her wide is still decent compared to the others.

Reimu shot is basically a scaled down version of her Border team. That shot was pretty ridiculous though.

Also, normal mode may be pretty easy, but its hard mode is up there.

>Playing IN to see how it compares to TD
>Normal mode a little harder
>Hard mode seems easier
>Stage 4
>Vs Marisa
>Goddammit

>>7743371
Remember when you could choose between
high damage needles
and low damage homing
Then ZUN said "Why not both?".

>>7743382
I prefer it that way, though her homing in TD could be a little better, its a little weird, and all of the only home if you are in the center, else its one side or the other.

Youmy unfocused should have been more like her IN's. Right now, its a shitty version of Marisa's in MoF

>>7743371
Who are you quoting?

>>7740478
>vengeance and resurrections
Miko was resurrected and she wanted vengeance for Byakuren and other stuff.
There. No tanuki.

hey people, we are talking about the music, not the gameplay.
i personally love the gameplay, but hate the new music (stage 5 and above)

>>7743413
It's more than worth being able to use needles as well. And it's nice to see PC-98-esque homing amulets again.

No penetrating lasers are the only big problem for me.

>>7743432
People on /jp/ don't play the games they just armchair theorize about personalities.

>>7743413

I'm perfectly fine with her TD unfocused shot type. If Youmu had her IN shot type I probably wouldn't have used her, I hated it that much.

>>7743371
I wonder why ZUN is constantly nerfing Marisa.

First in MoF, she no longer has the role of high power narrow shot.

Then in SA, her first shottype she spreads when focused and unspreads when focused, her second is a complicated mish mash, and her third is medium powered narrow shot compared to ReimuA's high powered narrow shot which also has a bomb that is better in practically every circumstance than MarisaC's. But then again Reimu's other two shottypes were shitty as well.

Then we got UFO, all Marisa had going for her was piercing ability with annoying sounding lasers that were so bright they obscured bullets. I won't even bother talking about her second shottype in that game.

And in TD, they take away her piercing ability. I really just don't understand.

Stage 5's boss music is awesome. It have the same kind of feeling the stage 3 have, and it is my favorite music in the whole game. I probably like it better than most other touhou songs, too.

Somehow, the soundtrack lacks of trumpets.

>>7743482
She xwas always less good than reimu. The only difference is that new characters are reimu-tier, so she really feels left out.
To tell the truc, SA's MarisaB is "complicated" (big word for it) but it is really, really good.

At least Marisa shot is better than that horrible spinning shot type Reimu had.


I think it was Suika partner?

>>7743482
Well, it makes sense that her lasers don't pierce in TD because that would mess up some of the boss fights. She could've gotten a power boost or something to make up for it, though.

>>7743533
There's a smaller word for complicated?

We can all agree that getting passed stage 5 boss without having to continue is impossible.

>>7743539
Suika was homing (bad homing)
Aya was IN Youmu * 2

>>7743540

Now that I think about it, laser piercing could have been nice against Seiga, hit her and Yoshika at the same time without worrying about walls.

>>7743554
Which is probably the main problem here.

Still, it's perfectly possible to make it so that it doesn't go through bosses, go...

>>7743540
It would mess up the boss fights? The only one I could see it affecting is Seiga with Yoshika. And why not let her keep an advantage against one of the bosses? Also her lasers are only out when she's unfocused so it'd be a risky manuever anyways.

>>7743563

I don't see how it's that big a deal when Youmu can slash right through Yoshika to completely wreck Seiga unlike the other characters. It'd be nice for Marisa to have that as well I think, even if it was to a lesser extent.

>>7743576
Good point. Youmu pretty much wrecks everything except Yoshika. She takes a lot more skill to use properly, though.

Okay, so, uh... Miko's last card. How the fuck? It's a joke until the glowing bullets turn blue, and then it seems completely impossible.

I've managed a single fluke capture in spell practice, but I've still no idea how I'm actually supposed to approach it.

>>7743649
Dodge the glowing balls.

My main problem is Miko's second to last spellcard.
I can capture the others fine, but that one rapes me.

>>7743543
Any life/bomb fragments collected during trance doubles the amount collected. Generally, you want to kill everything as soon as they appear to top off the trance meter and use it when life/bomb fragment-dropping fairies appear. I'd even go as far as saying that you should use them in between spellcards as well, assuming the goal is to beat the game.

I've already 1cc'd Normal and Extra, but my score is too embarrassing for display. It's all thanks to getting a lot more bombs and lives through Trance, truthfully.
168m in Extra, where I've gotten near 150m without even getting close to the last few spellcards ;_;

>>7743649
I believe the card could possibly be done "vertical only".

An easy way to do it with Reimu:
Fly under the enemy's skirt and shoot. If there are any bullets coming to a stop next to you, evade them by moving as little as possible.
Every time all bullets stop, quickly go down to the bottom, redirect them there and move back up again.

If you repeat that, the following will happen:

All bullets stop, you move down to redirect them. As you reach the bottom, she switches to blue and the bullets stop again. You can now fly up to her and redirect the bullets again. From there on, quickly return to the bottom. Then, you just stream all the bullets by moving up to her as slowly as possible.

There will only be bullets coming from the sides, none from above or below you.

>Oh fuck, she's summoning TWO other bosses to help her attack! This is going to rape my face, hard!
>It's a spellcard that wouldn't be out of place on a Stage 1 midboss.

>>7743701
This.
I was like ".", especially since I did lost 2 lost 2 lifes trying to no-bomb her first SC and her popcorn.

>>7742599
>curvy lasers + Fantasy Heaven

>>7743698

Yeah, I've been misdirecting them verically in the same manner I would most of Sakuya's targeted spellcards. The change at 25% is still raping me, but I seem to be having the best luck starting at the top or bottom and slowly streaming vertically and praying she dies before I hit the other end.

>>7743711
>>7743701

I spent the entire card wondering when Miko was going to start shooting curvy lasers or spamming bullets everywhere, but nope.

>>7743701
Try Lunatic version. No holes.

>>7743754

I was about to ask about that. That was an extremely easy card on Normal, but it's nice to know that it's really tough on Lunatic. What about the Hard mode version of the card, is it still way too easy or is it fine for a Hard mode level card?

>>7743790
He's lying. There are gaps on Lunatic, though they do close up after about 3 waves, I think. It's more a race against time than anything. If you can confidently do consistent damage to the boss, it's still an easy card.

>>7743799

Oh, okay. I'm not good enough for Hard or Lunatic mode, but it sounds like Youmu can just slash her way through it without too much effort then if that's true.

Fuck, the spell cards never kill me, but I keep dying to random fucking fairies and shit that appear all over the place.

It is one-hundred times more frustrating than dying to a bullet.

>>7743799
>>7743808
>>7743790
No lying here.

Hard also starts at 4 arrows each just like Normal.
Lunatic starts with 6 arrows.

The enemies move much faster on harder difficulties.
Try to time out the Normal version to see what Lunatic looks like.

>>7743831

I think I see now. I didn't know there were more arrows after each wave. I really need to pay attention to these things better.

>>7743831
>Try to time out the Normal version to see what Lunatic looks like.
Lies.

>>7743864
You sure are annoying. Here I got myself trapped to make you a screenshot.

>>7743884
I was just saying that Normal mode and Lunatic mode are not comparable, time out or not. Take it easy bro.

>>7743864
>>7743884
All this talk made me try timing out the Lunatic version. The pace makes it harder than Normal, but leading them around the screen isn't particularly difficult. Trying to actually do damage with all the holes closed it tough, though.

>There will never be a stage 4 as hard and cool as IN

>>7743998
And I'm fine with it.
Seriously, IN's stage 4 with awesome, but maiden's capriccio still makes me rage when hearing it

>>7743998

>>7744029
Doesn't fulfill the 'cool' prerequisite.

>>7744043
If you don't think that stage was cool as hell, then you didn't play the original DoDonPachi.

>>7744029
that's not stage 4
and it's not Ketsui either

>>7744029
>>7744052
>My tastes > your tastes you fag

>>7744064
What? How did I possibly imply that? Someone said there wouldn't be something as awesome as IN stage 4, and I suggested another stage that is similarly awesome. How does that at all imply my tastes > your tastes?

>>7744065
Seemed more like you were trying to one up him to me.

Either way, keep Cave shit out of these threads please.

>>7744074
Then perhaps you just have a confirmation bias towards Cave fan asshattery. Duly noted.

>>7744080
Quite possible. I have found them to be quite "hurf durf" around here.

As an very average player I did find it funny that I found the fairy waves on stage 2 lunatic to be easier than on normal, because the faster bullets on lunatic meant that I didn't have to worry about near impenetrable curtains and waves doubling up.

Kind reminded me how I did better in Fairy Wars on hard than normal because I could get better ice chains.

Is it bad that I cant enjoy listening to the stage musics without the bullet spawning sounds?

>>7744204
It's like VoWG/MoF on Normal. Slow bullets just clog up the screen and you can so easily ram into them.