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7731527 No.7731527 [Reply] [Original]

I don't get it.

Why does the fanon represents Shiki as a midget when she is actually about the same size as Komachi?

I would say she is even taller!

>> No.7731536

komachis kind of tall

>> No.7731542

No idea, but it does kind of suit her, doesn't it?

>> No.7731546

To make their fanon pairing look better. Most fanon is retarded.

>> No.7731555

>Why does fanon do [x]

Because people are given the freedom to create things the way they want to, even if that means not adhering to canon.

>> No.7731559

>>7731527
Because people went along with it and got stuck into their minds, much like Marisa always having a huge grin on her face while being a schmuck.

Post >>7731542 is an example.

>> No.7731580
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Komachi is standing in a hole and Shiki is on a box in that picture, you just can't see it.

Next question?

>> No.7731588

Alright, time to bash the secondary scum, which fanontruths do you guys hate the most?

- Yuka being a psycho.
- Hungry Yuyuko is Hungry

>> No.7731629

>>7731588
The latter.

>> No.7731694

>>7731527
Komachi's further into the background than Shiki in that picture; she's behind the torii, as you can see by her scythe, and Reimu and Shiki are in front of it.

Plus, Komachi being gigantic is canon from PMiSS.

>> No.7731832

>>7731694
Yuka being flat and Reimu's size is also canon from PMiSS, you don't see people ever doing that.

>> No.7731842

Komachi is tall, lazy and has a big chest. Eiki is her workaholic boss. The only logical conclusion for fanon was to make her an angry midget with breast envy, canon be damned.

>> No.7731854

>>7731588
Aya and Sanae being sluts.

>> No.7731856

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneHeadTaller

>> No.7731875
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I wish fanart of yuuka was less lewd in general

>> No.7731876

>>7731588
Psycho Koishi.

>> No.7731890

>>7731588
Yuyuko doesn't stop rambling about food for a good chunk of IN, so while it might not be entirely canon, it's not as purely fanon wishful thinking as Shiki being tiny.

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>>7731875
Why?

>> No.7731926

Tall and imposing.
Tall and large breasted.

Komachi is tall and has large breasts.

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>>7731913
I don't favor it

>> No.7731943

>>7731890
Also there's the whole ghosts, gluttony and Buddhism thing. Someone explained it to me on /jp/ and it made sense. ZUN's a fucking genius at subtle shit

>> No.7731958

Because it makes a bigger contrast between the two characters, and is often used for jokes.

>>7731588

PADS
Begger Reimu
Worthless Meiling (has some basis in canon, but fanon overblows it)
Retard Okuu

>> No.7731962

>>7731588
I'm a secondary and I hate those.

I also hate Sakuya wearing pads. I don't mind Sanae being a slut, because it makes for more porn and it doesn't appear in any non-porn doujins anyway.

I hate when Cirno's stupidity is exaggerated. I hate 'eye' VERY much.

I hate Yukari being displayed as the Boss der Touhou, or shit like that.

Any Touhou having pedo interests in another Touhou (Sakuya/Remi, Ran/Chen, etc.)

Marisa always grinning like an idiot.

What else?

>> No.7731970

>>7731958
Sakuya knifing Meiling for anything she does.

>> No.7731978

>>7731958
In her interview, Meiling shows that she is an unreliable guard.
I'm sorry, but Okuu is canon retarded.

She is bird brained, so to speak.

However, one day that peaceful lifestyle was shattered.

Someone from above stole into Hell without anyone noticing.
Then, she began to speak.
Her voice stoked Utsuho's curiosity.

"The Hell of Blazing Fires hides the secret to the ultimate form of energy that humans can attain.
You, crow that lives within the blaze ...
You should be able to contain that power within your body.
We can use that to bring about the wishes of not just the underground, but the above ground as well."

She was enveloped in light, and she felt someone entering her body.
When she came to, her body had changed greatly.

Utsuho enjoyed using her new power, and before she knew it the Hell of Blazing Fires had regained its original heat.
That heat boiled the water in the underground, and when the steam pressure reached its limits it boiled over into the above ground as a geyser.

 The one from above ground.
 Who was she, and what was her purpose?
 Utsuho quickly pushed such questions from her little head.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Utsuho_Reiuji/Game_Profiles

>> No.7731980

>>7731962
CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

People thinking that because two characters happen to share a stage (Momiji/Aya Keine/Mokou etc) that means that they have the hots for one another.

Ran molesting Chen

Rumia is an Ex Boss if you remove her charm

Any characters outside of Yukari having a phantasm stage.

Reisen is a useless bunny.

Marisa love triangle with Patches and Alice.

Alice having a stutter.

>> No.7731991

"x is a slut!!! XD" is probably the most annoying because it gets plastered all over /jp/. Some are just shitposts but a lot of people seem to think its funny or witty. Like half of the weekly Sanae threads.

>> No.7731993

>>7731970
On that note, fanon interpretations of Sakuya/Meiling that you liked.

I found this to be nice: http://danbooru.donmai.us/pool/show/3832

>> No.7732007

>>7731978
I don't see how that makes her retarded, only that she ignored Kanako's mild hindsight.

She's more guillible than anything once you look at her diallogue, after experimenting for a long period of time, she became the most knowledgeable being on the planet about nuclear physics. She's knowledgeable and has a very nice dialogue (at least in SA), but her short-term memory is apparently very vulnerable to any concussion and that makes her guillible.

>> No.7732009

>>7731962
>>7731980
Everything in these posts.
Plus Suppa Tenko and Mannosuke.

>> No.7732018

>>7731991
That's called trolling, most people still do it because Sanaefags never quit whining about it, which is what trolls desire.

Frankly if they could just ignore them and carry on with their thread as normal then it wouldn't be such a bother and the trolls would diminish, I'd think that by NOW they should have already adquired immunity from such statements.

>> No.7732017

>>7731962
I hate the "Tenshi is a masochist" fanon... but that's just me, apparently.

>> No.7732030

>>7732018
Tried that. Didn't work.

>> No.7732033

Eirin is an evil doctor.

>> No.7732032

>>7732007
What about Hisoutensoku dialogue?

>> No.7732047
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>>7732009
I like mannosuke, but I'm kind of a faggot

>> No.7732073

in contrast with the rest of this thread, I'll post the fanon shit that I find to be the LEAST annoying:

>yuyuko eats everything
Not entirely baseless (read: it's not a complete random invention from secondaries) and usually pretty funny, even if fairly overdone.
>cirno is baka/9 etc
It's pretty much canon anyway and even most of her stories revolve around her being silly and dumb. It's also funny most of the time. Like fat Yuyuko, the main problem is that it gets tired to see it overused so much.

...And... that's about it I guess, most of the made up shit is pretty damn annoying. As for why they get Komachi and Shiki's heights so off, it's probably because they can't beat PoFV.

>> No.7732083

>>7732032
Both games portray her in a very different manner, in terms of coherence especially.

The fact that ZUN dismissed all of Suwako's Soku dialogue in the September 2009 interview (the same one where he talked about UFO) might be an indicator that either he didn't write the/all of the dialogue or that he didn't like the treatment it had. He's let others do the dialogue before like in IotM.

>> No.7732084

>>7732073
>I like all fanon if it has a basis in canon

>> No.7732094

>>7732084
Not necessarily, but can you really say that it doesn't lift a major weight off of how annoying the fanon is if it's not entirely imaginary? It does become less grating in my opinion.

>> No.7732103

>>7732094
No, I don't find that at all.

I hate the 'Tewi always outsmarts everyone' thing also stupid and old hat, even if it's canon.

>> No.7732116

>>7732103
Is there anything you like?

>> No.7732126

>>7732103
I find that stupid too, but honestly I don't understand if you can really find it AS annoying as the Sakuya pad shit.

>> No.7732138

>>7731588

>Psycho Yuuka
The one I hate most too. In Phantasmagoria she's just fiercely protective of her flower field.

>PAD-boss Sakuya
I actually find it funny ^^;

>Okuu is fucking stupid
OK with this because it's canon

>Cirno is fucking stupid and says "eye"
Canon again, but I do have to say the "eye" is annoying.

>Troll Yukari
This one, I don't know of a single canon depiction in which Yukari likes to fuck around with people.

>Goofball Yuyuko eats anything
This one has to be the most canon-like fanon of the whole set.

>> No.7732139

>>7731978

Unreliable sure, but if she was completely worthless, why the fuck would she even still be there?

Now that I think about it, why IS she even still there? Who does she have to keep out other than the occasional human/youkai/fairy that doesn't know the kind of trouble they'd be walking into? The only only instance that I can think of where she actually has to fight people trying to get in is EoSD itself.

She's more like a damn doorman (or in most cases, doormat) than anything else.

>> No.7732154

>>7732138

>This one, I don't know of a single canon depiction in which Yukari likes to fuck around with people.

Uh, that was pretty much the ENTIRE basis for SSiB.

>> No.7732155

>>7732116
Stories that don't rely solely on memes, but well-written character personalities. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any that I find particularly funny, though. Most of them I don't get irritated by, unlike the ones that are listed here, but do any of these really make people laugh? Do you guys laugh when someone makes a reference to 9 involving Cirno?

>>7732126
The worst offender for the pad bullshit is Col. Aki, I think. But anyway, yes I find it almost as bad, because Tewi is just nothing as a character to me like this. It's like a more annoying Road Runner. She could have a BIT of a personality besides just pranking all day, couldn't she?

Well I guess I just don't like these types of characters.

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>>7732138
>I don't know of a single canon depiction in which Yukari likes to fuck around with people.

>> No.7732165

>>7732138

>Canon again, but I do have to say the "eye" is annoying.

Cirno refers to herself with "atai" in Japanese. It is not a stupid way to refer to oneself, just tomboyish.
Komachi and Orin do it too.

There is no justification for the idiotic "eye" replacement for "I" at all.

>> No.7732169

Yuyuko eating stuff may be somewhat canon, but wasn't it intended to be just a small joke based on Hungry Ghosts?

Yuyuko always gets reduced to a shitty food joke despite the fact that she is probably as clever as Yukari because she figured out what happened in IN and SSiB.

>> No.7732180

>>7732169
Most fanon I see Yuyuko being portrayed as quite wise, asides from her gluttony.

>> No.7732187

>>7731876
She tells you she'll decorate her house with your corpse. Sounds sane to me.

>> No.7732190

>>7732169
Problem is, even after figuring it out, she had to tell about it in terms of food...

>> No.7732204

>>7732169
She is a hungry ghost because she died with many regrets. She said so herself in her text in the fighting games.

Also: GGRRRRRRIIIIIIIMMMMDDAAAAAAARRRRKKKKK

>> No.7732269

>>7732187
Ever read the dialogue of other characters? Meiling is threatening to eat Reimu during EoSD for example.

>> No.7732281

Because a loli-judge nagging at you is way cuter.

>> No.7732294

Cirno is only dumb to human standards. She's a damn fairy. The only thing Fairies need to do is just frolic and play tricks.

Expecting something that doesn't need to worry about things like death to have common sense or wits kind of makes them stupid instead of her.

>> No.7732318

>>7732294
Still no excuse for EYE and 9 spam.

>> No.7732343

>>7732269
Fine, so the standard of sanity in Gensokyo is obviously different than ours.

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I kind of hate how fanon downplay Cirno to be seriously dumb. I know that traits came from the canon, But the fanon goes it so far that she's an ultimate idiot sometimes

I mean she can read, She can make basic analysis (Where she mention that 2/3 frogs she froze break to pieces). And heck she can do problem solving. Pic related

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Fuck fanon Alice. Her dialogs with Marisa are some of my favorite bits of ZUN writing, but fanon makes her so very shitty.

>> No.7732423

>>7731588
Koishi being insane.
I don't really pay attention to most fanon, but when they screw around with my waifu I can't take it.
I guess most people feel similar

>> No.7732429

>>7732343
They're just taunting and they're also youkai.
Still doesn't justify Koishi being a psycho.

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>>7732412

>> No.7732452

>>7731978
The touhou wiki has moved to http://touhouwiki.net , update your bookmarks.

Nobody saying anything about this post shows how badly this board is infected with summer cancer.

>> No.7732462

I hate the "/jp/ is shitty" Damon bullshit.

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>>7732452

>> No.7732492
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>>7732452

>> No.7732503

>>7732492
Doesn't change the fact that touhou.wikia is shit.

>> No.7732663

>>7732479

I'm curious, what is the purpose of posting this image linking to that post?

>> No.7732679

>>7732503
Dude you're so hip

At least you would be if you weren't busy sucking my dick like the little faggot you are.

>> No.7732690

>>7732663
The touhou wikia had (I think they removed it a couple of days ago) a section for "user-created content" it was basically filled with fan-characters like Neko Scarlet, the half-vampire half-demon catgirl daughter of the devil. The guy in the pic is Mateyuu Dawitsu, a magician that loves videogames and fights touhous and has a huge mansion with video game galleries and a floor dedicated to Portal (voiced by Stephen Merchant).
It was as bad as it sounds.

>> No.7732695

>>7732663
This was one fancharacter that used to be on the wikia. The author didn't even release a story or doujin or anything but still decided to add his own character to the wikia where it was accepted.

Kind of like Neko Scarlet, except slightly less (but still) retarded.

Hell, there was even one that was wearing jeans and "came from the world of Pokemon".

They did remove all of them recently though.

>> No.7732729

>Touhou
>Why does the fanon (mis)represent

To make it more fun.

>> No.7732732

>>7732492
>It's popular, therefore it's good.

>> No.7734675

>>7732729
Seems we have different ideas of fun.

>> No.7734711

>>7731694
Even so, Shiki doesn't look even close to being a midget.

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