/jp/ - Otaku Culture

CORRECTION: To join Hinamizawa, enter 'Secobi', not 'Lemuria'.

Aokigahara and Hinamizawa: You don't happen to have any bear capes or bear tooth talismans for trade, do you? I really could use some extra strength.

>>7692796
I've got one, though I wear it most of the time. I also have a bearskin/bearteeth if you know how to make them.

>Aokigahara
>Hinamizawa

You guys never cease to amaze me.

>>7692812
I've never butchered a bear before, so unfortunately I can't do anything with just components. Well, unless you build a barter stand (I can probably provide the 10 linen for it).

>>7692831
So you can discover things by buying from a stand? That's pretty neat. I guess I can set one up, though I can't for the life of me think of what I'd want in return unless you happen to have a bar of steel.

How awesome is this compared to Minecraft?

>>7692881
Minecraft is a terrible game in comparison to this game.

>>7692846
q15 chicks? Boar tusks or other curios? Rabbit skins? Leather? Silkworms? Bones?

>>7692890
Silkworms perhaps, I heard someone here wanted to do silk making, though I don't have personal use for it, nor do I think we have a constant stream of mulberry leaves.

Trading must be a pain between towns. I don't know what anyone here needs and I don't personally need anything save food when I'm mining, but that's provided already.

Have a Q65 bearcape and Q62 talisman here. I guess you ultimately decide what you want to trade.

Player of Aldwyrn here. To my fellow villagers in Hinamizawa, chances are I'm going to be on very little for the next few days to a week at most if I can help it. I've been playing this game obsessively and I honestly am starting to get burnt out because of it.

Also please don't mess with the crops surrounded by paved stone, I would like to harvest and maintain those when I do end up being on. But like I said, I won't be on much for the time being since I'm kind of burnt out.

Anyways, I just wanted to say that. Good night.

this game probably has a high burnout factor due to being a more complicated version of farmville

Found an unprotected mine at (47,55), in case anyone's interested. It's too far away from me to be any useful.

>>7692796
yeah Hinamizawa has got a few beartooth talismans, I'll be on tomorrow evening. Be glad to trade it for metal nuggets or possibly hi-q fibers. We're also looking for a bull and a female sheep.

>>7693520
Trade already came and passed, if you want I can give you some metal nuggets, quantities and types?

>>7693523
lowest, cheapest grade, we just need them for making keys

Oh my god jp is actually playing H+H? Enjoy being raped by hordes of russians. Stick to Eden Eternal / Cosmic Break / Dojin games eh?

>>7693591
/jp/sies love being raped. That's everyone's fetish.

>>7693607

Well you know if I think any board can rise to the occasion in H + H it is most definitely jp. A combination of OCD, too much free time, attention to detail, obsessive personalities, etc. makes them great candidates for this game. Especially if the ruskie population has dwindled.

>>7693372
what client are you using that shows coordinates? Also, what is the hotkey for it?

>>7693625
I look up on the map (link in OP's post) where I am by checking the surroundings. No way to display coordinates in-game as far as I know.

By the way, about the cave: it's past a nuked area for Aokigahara residents, so you'll need to go around the nuked area to get there if you're coming from Aokigahara.

>>7693591

But a Russian gave me a backpack.

Set up camp near Aokigahara while looking for better land nearby, it's pretty depressing how anywhere with Q40+ Soil is over an hour away from Aokigahara and/or already claimed by a village.

>>7693892
I remember coming across some Q40 soil somewhere around here.

>>7694055
Only managed to find Q35 Soil when I went there in the past.
Well, might as well go take another look.

Now this is what I call hunting!

VICTORY!

Caught 4 Male Silkmoths and not a single Female...

The price for destroying my herbatables is death. Motherfucker.

Server seems to be having issues. I lost connection and can't reconnect.

Ah, it works again.

>>7694616
>>7694269
>>7694127
/jp/ isnt your personal blog, sir

>>7694666
/jp/ isn't your personal shitposting site, sir.

To those who can log in right now: Don't come anywhere near animals. The lag will kill you. My character stood still like a retard as he was being raped by a boar. Fortunately, I survived, but only because the boar decided to leave me alone after getting me to 0 SHP.

>>7694693
You can always just stay on your boat and sling at them

>>7694703
Even then, you would occasionally have to step out of your boat to aggro them. At any moment the game can lag so terribly that you're frozen on the spot for 10 seconds - and I'm not exaggerating - during which an animal can kill you.

>>7694055
>>7694104
I can confirm q40+ soil there. The center of the node is in the river somewhere, but there's q42 soil on both sides of the bank if you find the right spot.

Whelp, that's it for me. Getting killed for taking stuff from obviously vacated claims miles away from my place is anything but fun, especially when inheriting bugs out and only gives stats, no LP.

Have fun, /jp/.

>>7694796
But it does give LP. You just lose 93% of it. If you had a claim, at least you still have your stuff and you should be back to normal pretty quickly. Took me one day.

So many boulders...where do I leave all of them?

my first bear kill

Every time I tried logging on today, my internet has crashed due to the lag. Literally, Haven and Hearth is breaking my internet connection to the point where I have to reset the signal repeater for the first time in two or three weeks just to get back onto 4chan and tell you about this crap.

Ah well, we can't all have decent connections now can we? I'll try again tomorrow as I'm kind of missing Dwarf Fortress.

Oh wow, this shit is awesome.

Upon requesting help with our wall, this is what I get.

>>7695822
Mind you, that was him asking his friends who've only heard of us from the fox hat hater who caused a few problems in the village a while back.

>>7695822
Normalfags, just gotta love em

Someone please move the covered wagon by some time tomorrow, I need to build the other cornerpost there.

What the fuck someone killed me in my own yard

>>7695411
Turn the Boulders into Runestones, stand on shallow water and log out

>>7695708
Holy fuck, you guys managed to get a wagon? Congratulations. Have you checked the insane storage space that thing has?

I don't suppose either village has 4 deer antlers for trade, right? I have enough LP for Lawspeaking and I already have 4 bear teeth...

>>7697032
I have 2 of them and I'm right next to Aokigahara, what do you have to trade?

>>7697187
Aside from the stuff at >>7692890, I now also have a q62 bear skin, 12 q109 bones and a fox skin. I also have yet to discover deer antlers, so if you don't have a barter stand, I'll build one for free for you (10 linen plus some wood, I have the linen).

>>7697203
Don't have a stand, what's the leather's quality?

>>7697212
q10.

Well it's me again.. an update: I got 13k lp, 270 learning ability.Found some deer (2) of them.. then got back to this swamp again.
Problem is i'm lost.. can anyone map me a direction with this? I'll upload more pictures if necissary.

>>7697694
Zoom out the map at least

>>7697735
I'm not in enders client.. I cant find it on algerith.. because the maps too big.
Well I'll try to find a more recognisable place.. brb.

>>7697694

Dude, your hearthfire is just north of Hinamizawa.. I have no idea how you got lost.

>>7697741
What. Then he can just teleport to his hearth fire, can't he?

>>7697740
Rule of thumb: keep going south downstream until you get to the big swamp on top of a smaller swamp. Then go west until you hit the village. You really should get Ender's client.

>>7697744

Yes. Heres a screenshot of his hearthfire. Right where the rest of the VDZ following ones were.

I'm not on enders client because It will not work for me. SO I only have minimap...
Sorry :/. Well idk if this will help but I passed by a runestone saying: "Here lies Merlin Leader of DIamond Rangers and Slain by norowhut and gang."

>>7697774
That;s my other account. "xeros"
xeros i
is the acc im trying to get directions too.

So how does one get his hands on some (any) kind of ore?
I found a cave and have been exploring for days taking wall samples here and there but I've found nothing but cave-ins.

Do I have to get the root extract and build a minehole or is it there some less painful way?

Maybe I should just live here...

>>7697846
There's the prospecting skill to let you search for ore: http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Prospecting

Other than that, you can just mine around if you're in a long natural cave - I've heard that you can dig up to three tiles without any risk of cave-in, so just mine a single tile to see if there's ore.

Another option is to just trespass into an abandoned mine like I'm doing.

HMm.. The big swamp on top of the small swamp is kinda vague.
>>7697694
This has a smaller swamp attached to a bigger swamp. Idk

Updating Progress, I'm currently right here.. going to venture further and post an update later.

orz

Gate is up, wall is complete.

>>7697912
Get slider to full industry, that effects whether a mined ore will turn in to a bar.

>>7697928
But that'll ruin my farming. As a hermit, I need to be neutral.

>>7697931
Make another character for mining.

I'm still trying to work out a system for the key and gate

Only things I've thought of so far are an IRC channel that whoever need it opened can contact me in (I can set it to make a noise when someone mentions my name or a certain word) or even more absurd, I make some account on MSN or whatever and those needing the gate opened can message me on it.

Any other ideas are welcome. I just want to avoid a free key system since its really insecure.

>>7697980
What happened to the crossroads idea? Not enough tobacco and alcohol for everyone?

>>7698019
That's still the plan, but it won't work for bringing carts or animals in

It's Stream. Spider and Phil just killed me.

They killed me too.

I should not have logged on.

They're raiding us

D'oh well, they won't get the key.

How did they get in anyways.

The reason is "Ares quit"

That's a nice load ain't it.

How did they get in?

Also am I safe as long as I stay logged out?

>>7698147
Yes, and they got in via the cave we hadn't walled off yet.

Honestly, what kind of a reason is "Its Ares fault he quit."

The area isn't really safe any longer.

I guess this means I'm not logging in for a while...Unless they killed my character.

>>7698122
>>7698151
Told you this would happen. Well, at least there's still Hinamizawa for everybody to join.

>>7698154
they can't kill him unless they have a summonable scent from you.

>>7698157
Yeah to be killed by Roadville if anyone makes half a slipup.

Well, anyone who wants to leave probably wait until a few hours from now, I can still get in to the village via a backup Hearthfire and Hearth secret to keep an eye for when they leave. Maybe we can take some stuff with us.

No chance of waiting and walling off the cave?

>>7698164
According to >>7677631 Roadville is likely abandoned. This might be related to my picture, which was taken by a raider during a group raid on June 18th. Even if it isn't, they won't know about us, and there are much more interesting things to loot in the vicinity, such as the 'inventory editor' area I discovered.

>>7698183
No, they'll just glitch through the wall anyways.

They wanted the wall, that's the only thing I can think of

My recommendation is don't log on until some time later, they kill on sight and I imagine they'll have one or two patrolling about for a while.

Damnit I accidentally stayed logged on in my house and died. Oh well.
>Implying it completely mattered

Good thing I stayed as hermit.
I live east of roadville and everything is deserted around here. My house is deep inside the forest.

>>7698188
>'inventory editor' area
If this means what I think it means then I'm done playing this shitty game.

A bit more info.

The whooooole reason they killed us is because we're weeaboos.

I don't know, maybe we stole too many of their girlfriends and they want payback or something.

>>7698242
It doesn't, read the previous thread. What it means is...
>It's not just an iron mine. Many buildings full of cupboards full of loot. It feels like I opened an inventory editor.
>It really is like an inventory editor. Inventory editors really spoil all of the fun. It feels like there's no point to playing anymore when you just get everything just like that.
Don't break in there, otherwise you WILL feel like you're 'done playing this shitty game'.

>>7698250
>weeaboos
>girlfriends

The real reason you guys got killed was because you strayed from the hikki way. You tried to reach out and become part of a community of thieves and backstabbers, when what you should have done is stayed a hermit. I'm surprised /jp/ out of all the boards thought socializing with other people would be a good idea, even if it was only in-game.
For a real /jp/ community to work in this game, we need to become as isolated as possible. Don't even offer to trade with the other towns, just stay out of their way and if possible, keep our town's location in absolute secrecy.

>>7698266
No, we got killed from the outside, by another town that reasonlessly hates weeaboos

>>7698273
And that town wouldn't know of our existence if it weren't because we went around asking for help from the iron wall people.

>>7698280
Actually it was someone from the Iron Curtain who LET us come here. The people who killed us are from either Sigma or Melsonia.

>>7698266

To be honest I was wondering what was up when I first saw someone with a name like "Uncle Phil" waltzing around our village. Surely it couldn't be a teenage /b/tard!

The lesson here is, even if you trust someone completely, they may trust someone else that is less than desirable.

Also Sigma is a hearth vault that was home to a notorious griefer. Although he QQd before we started playing, birds of a feather do tend to flock together.

Well, least this gives me reason to quit for a while, it was quite exhausting keeping up with so many people as the LS.

>>7698266
>I'm surprised /jp/ out of all the boards thought socializing with other people would be a good idea, even if it was only in-game.

If it's any consolation I can't even manage being part of a village, I just live out in the woods. Alone. As usual.

I don't know how but I keep going in circles trying to navigate to Hinamizawa. I went south , then it went eventually to my last screenshot.>>7697882

In which I walked to a nearby river, went down it and ended up at a 3-way clay split..
:I
Hopefully I can try to make it near.. but I doubt it, might go on other char and start brand new.

>>7698301
Me too.
Some Polish fucker stole my chickens...

>>7698316
Just be glad it was some random slav who borrowed your chickens, and not the RUA coming to rape your month old crops and curios-filled cupboards.

Thanks Voile/Freya/everybody, I had a lot of fun.

Some additional advice for anyone else trying to sneak out of the village: log in, lower your tradition/change slider towards tradition, then log out for several hours. Keep doing this until its all the way toward tradition. You lose only like 6% of your LP this way.

>>7698342

Nevermind, the belief changing time only passes when you're logged in. Oh well. You can at least change it once.

I think I'll use this opportunity to find out which jobs are needed in Hinamizawa...Do you guys need a miner or smither or something like that?

>>7698331
I guess you have a point.
I live about 5 minutes away from a load of ruins, so it may happen sooner or later.

Playing a shitty game because you think you belong to a certain crowd is the most normalfag thing you can do.

>>7698379

This is the only /jp/ flavor of the month that I've played, only because it reminded me a lot of Ultima Online.

>>7698379
Not sure what you mean there.

>>7698342
Nope. 43% LP loss total. And your learning ability will be reduced to 33%, and you'll be able to change a slider only once every 24 hours (that you are logged in), so it'll take ages for it to go back to Change. After I died it already took ages to go from neutral to full Change, I can't imagine how horrible it must be to go from full tradition to full change.

Full Tradition is just never worth it. Never.

>>7698289

SpiderK is Toska is in Sigma

I've been to their hearthvault

>>7698393
Not that guy, but this game strongly emulates social systems. You truly become part of a village and you work together, and as there are multiple groups doing so, complex social interactions occur. Probably the most interesting thing I've seen so far is the bullying Aokigahara received; I've never seen bullying ever happen before on an online game between people who have never met in real life.

This entire game blurs several lines. For example, murder in any other game is just basic gameplay, and it's normal to do it. But in this game, the victim loses his entire character. In that case, is running around and killing random players a morally wrong thing to do?

>>7698407
The murderers in this game find it easy to murder because they use bots to grind their alts while their main char goes on a killing and looting spree. If he gets slain by a group of rangers who tracked his scents, he just logs into one of his alts and spends all that LP he's been grinding and repeat the process. Multiply this by about 30 and you got the RUA.

Finally got H&H to work, it was my crappy internet connection. Ill be able to play till tomorrow and a week after that. Ill look around for some q100 flax seeds, but if i can't find any i already have q70.

>>7698469
By the way, any hs i can get so you can invite me to your village?

>>7698473
Look at the post below OPs

>>7698407
>Not that guy, but this game strongly emulates social systems.

Any game that doesn't link social standing account-wide, to prevent what the other person who answered you said, is not an accurate representation of society in a microcosm.

Even criminals only get one real chance in real life. They don't get to log onto a "legit" character and rebuild their criminal one. They can pretend to be someone else, but they're just as easily outed and caught.

>>7698370

we have no mine still, though we have someone that plans on mining

we have someone with decent sewing, someone that farms, random newbies, people that just go exploring and a few people that can hunt badly

>>7698476
I didn't say it was a perfect emulation. It's imperfect, but it can closely resemble a society, especially when you look at groups of players who only or mainly use their main characters, using only alts for mining and the like.

Even linking shit account-wide wouldn't help as you could just create another account. You'd need to link it to the person itself; good luck with that.

>>7698485
I have a very good copper mine and I just stumbled upon iron. However, Hinamizawa is very far away for me (>80 AGI to jump). Find me 4 Deer Antlers and I'll be willing to go over there.

>>7698485
Alright, I guess I'll join that dude then. I can't hunt or fight well anyway.

>7698511
yeah we can have antlers

>>7698487
It's very easy, actually. Dual boxers have the same IP address. Check chat logs for those characters. If one goes dark while the other is active, then it's someone using dual boxing.

You are only allowed to have one account on a whole lot of online games by the rules they specify in the EULA. They can terminate your account for not abiding that, while refunding you nothing.

They don't stop Chinese gold farming, not because they can't, but because they don't care to. Chinese gold farmers pay for accounts, just like normal people. As long as the MMO owners make real money, they don't actually care who makes unreal money.

Hey, Aldwyrn here. I won't be able to play for a while because of the weather. That and the strain Haven and Hearth already puts on my connection is causing my internet to crash every other time I play it.

Help yourself to those pumpkins, and please close my gate, because I'm not logging back in until the weather improves.

Sorry sec, my 3G conection died out and stolen wifi isn't enough to let the game load.
Tought this might work as well. Ill keep trying to reconect to the 3G.

>>7698601
Huh, didn't know that page existed. Seems I've played 230 hours in 20 days. Is that a bad thing?

>>7698601
In game version

>>7698668
Forgot picture.
>>>>7698630
Dont ask me, those 2 weeks were gathered in a month probably.

>>7698678
What's with the low stats? 288k free LP but only 76 Strength and Intelligence?

>>7698682
I had a village claim in charge when i stopped playing, so a friend logged only to keep authority up for a while.

Looks like I missed the entire fiasco. Corpses are strewn about everywhere and it seems that I'm one of the few survivors. The village appears to be completely sealed off now.

It was fun while it lasted, /jp/. Until next time.

Somebody on #haven has finally found a use for Frogs:
[01:52] <ALWAYS> you can also drop frogs in the water
[01:52] <ALWAYS> and block people chasing you via boat

>>7698706
How did you get a screenshot without the UI?

>>7698714
Amazing. I think I'll carry a frog with me from now on.

>>7698714
I got told that on Global.

Been keeping them when I go out in boats in case I get chased by people who aggro'd me.

>>7698706
My alt still has the key, unless they rebuilt the gate.

I would advise against trying to stay there though.

>>7698706
So is there anything of value left in Aokigahara, or were the cupboards destroyed?

Okay so my key still works on the gate, so perhaps anyone else left in there can get out without being killed.

Can't guarantee they aren't waiting for us, but its better than letting it sit there if you want to go to Hinamizawa and have another go.

And thus it was if Aokigahara never existed in the first place.

>>7698779
Except EX-Keine makes history, not eats it.

Any one who wants out just tell me and I'll open the gate, I'm not sure if it'd be safe to just open and keep it open in case if draws more attention, but its your call.

This is so fucked up. I'll keep to myself from now on, and if anyone walks or sails anywhere near me I'll log out ASAP. Don't even give them a chance to say hi.

>>7698779
>EX-Keine
>EX
>Crescent moon

Who the fuck named it that, seriously

I love just north of Aokigohara, hermiting since I'm too socially anxious to mess around with you guys, Is it worth packing up bags and moving closer to Hinamizawa to live alone in the woods near them?

>>7698826
You'd have to travel a long way, and it's not like there are very many prospective mines. It's not a bad place, if you don't mind being close to a village called Silk Road.

>>7698706
By the way, can people still get in and out through that mine entrance?

>>7698844
Look at the picture. The palisade clearly blocks the mine entrance.

>>7698831
Actually, there's places you can put a mine hole near Alpha Site. It even indicates in Russian what metals can be found where!

>>7698845
Alpha Site? I don't speak Russian, so I'm afraid that information is useless on me.

>>7698847
Yeah, but I didn't know if it would teleport you to one side or not.

At least now we know never to trust anyone not from /jp/ or 4chan again...Let's keep this lesson in our hearts. (I do feel a little bad for needing to leave all the stuff I worked on in Aokigahara though)

>>7698867
I feel bad for letting everyone in the village down and moving us here not knowing the consequences.

But more than that. I feel tired, very tired. I'm going to open the gate for anyone who wants out to get out. but i recommend you do it quick, before anyone notices.

>>7698886
I'll inherit from my character. Can you give me a hearth to land on once you are there?

>>7698890
I'm already at Hinamizawa, the Hearth secret is stated here: >>7692755

So, I'm totally new to this. Which village should I join?

>>7698900
Hinamizawa, Aokigahara is no more

>>7698867
>At least now we know never to trust anyone not from /jp/

Life didn't teach you that already? /jp/ is the only place brimming with love and caring to be found with any (albeit unwanted) ties to reality.

>>7698779

My garden! What did they do!

Oh well, I was going to declaim and offer my stuff to anybody that wanted it anyway. All I wanted to do was bake pies and cookies for my fellow /jp/ers. In the end it was too much work.

>>7698901

So...I'm now in the world. What do I do? Where do I go?

>>7698928
Ask the people nearby, I'm not much in a mood to help.

Alternatively, read http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19114 and the wiki linked in the OP.

Should I do it? Nobody's probably done it before since it's so rare and useful...(it gives 10k base LP in 12 hours, so at 360% learning ability it gives 36k...)

>>7698981
SCIENCE

>>7698981
Take a video of it and post it on the forums!

The server appears to have crashed :(
That's a shame, I finally found a perch spot.

>The server appears to have crashed :(
>The server last talked to me at Fri Aug 5 02:25:23 2011 (UTC)
Erm...whoops?

Server's down

Finally made it to Hinamizawa and currently building a cabin there.
>>7698901
Thanks for allowing me to use those chests.

The server crashes just as my internet stops acting up. Why?

Server's up!

It's back up. And I lost my Rabid Jackalope, unfortunately.

>>7699049
Don't feel down. You've helped advance science ten years ahead.

>>7699006
You've been struggling to find a perch spot? Perch is all I seem to be able to catch lately! I need plaice to increase my perception and all I catch is fucking perch, fucking pissing me off this fucking perch godDAMN.

>>7699049
Well, now we know for sure.

Whoever edited the wiki, please remove the "crashes server" until that can be confirmed.

So which town needs assistance more? I just made an account and figured I'd lend a hand.

>>7699123
If you're new to the game it would be better for you to play around and get acquainted with everything for at least a day before offering your help, since you'd be more a chore than assistance at this point.

I need a map for how to go from Aokigahara to Hinamizawa.

>>7699136
Can't you just destroy your HF, get invited by whoever is the current Lawspeaker of Hinamizawa, then teleport to the village totem?

>>7699136
1. Check the archive. Someone made one earlier if I recall correctly.
2. The coordinates for both villages are posted at the beginning of the thread. Plot out your own map on algeralith.info
3. Grind agi to 30+, take village oath, and teleport.
4. Destroy your hearthfire, take village oath, and teleport.
5. Go due south until you hit an invisible wall, take village oath, and teleport.
6. Go for a swim and use the hearthsecret.

All kinds of possibilities here. A true Aokigaharian would use #6 though.

Rip to thingsandstuff

Thats one of my supply boxes before i leave this village area.. was speaking to uncle and he says he did not kill everyone.. only 4 of you

But i am still Chief of Aokigahara and plan to live alone as a hermit now so yay me...

Why was everyone killed anyway?

>>7699509
For being weeaboos, according to what Voile was told.

>>7699513
Man, that sucks. Im not even a weeb, i just occasionally lurk and enjoy haven and hearth

>>7699349
Ohh...you won't go to Hinamizawa?

we have 3 refugees from Aokigahara at hinamizawa

so i started a game of this and ended up at my own little camp ground, how can i join you guys...

>>7700124
Did you tell a hearth secret before you left the char creation room?

I just got wind of this. I have no idea if any of this is true, or if Hinamizawa is really going to be raided. Aokgiahara's raiders might even browse /jp/, so anyone posting coordinates might be at risk.

At this rate, I'm thinking of going full hermit as well. Find a place well away from other villages and begin life anew. Or I could just quit this shitty game. Sigh.

hey derpherps

the people who are griefing you are going to use an exploit to set you to permaraid status

why do you even bother playing this game

it's made by russians for russians and exploits are constantly being "found" by russians if you catch my drift

protip: the admin favors russians and gives them exploits

Silkroad was already attacked but by someone else and they were more than able to fight them back, i doubt some crappy raider who can't bash a pali can win against them.

In the process of building a long paved road to the North Eastern forests and resource centers(past the houses for the newbies)since it is getting to be a pain in the ass to lug carts across muddy ground.

If anyone wants to help, that would be appreciated.

>>7700243
of course they browse /jp/ and of course they have spies already in Hinamizawa (big effort right there) -- I hope they do raid us, but why are you blacking out the names?

>>7700274
>why do you even bother playing this game
Because I'm Russian.

>>7700243
Oh god the crappy drama. HE WILL OFFER US ASYLUM, BUT WE MUST DO A DIRTY JOB.

I have society and all their silly little dances. /jp/ would have done better as a loose coalition of hermits.

>>7700345

remember, no russian

>>7700243
So Aokigahara pisses off some random fags, gets killed, then brings them to Hinamizawa, and then fucks all without saying anything. Gee thanks alot.

>>7700274
lol'd

This seems like a good time to join Hinamizawa.

I have a stone axe but when I try to chop down a tree it doesn't give me the option. I'm quite confused.

>>7700616
Except no one in Aokigahara pissed anyone off, Hell Phil was even starting to like us.

>>7700993
I like you. I'm going to kill you. All of you.

>>7700243
Yup, sounds completely legitimate and safe, eh?

Sheesh, I guess I'll just stay offline for a while, unless there's someone who wants to talk to me, though that's doubtful seeing as how I was summarily relieved of my Lawspeaking position

Call me when you guys find a new FotM.

>>7701049
All right then, see you next world

Yes its me Sec

I'm starting out in hermit fashion currently trying to figure everything out. Kinda struggling because things I should be able to make it won't allow me to make so it's confusing. This game could be so much better...

>>7701116
you need to make boards with the saw before you can build a house
the gear icon appearing above your character's head means your character made a "discovery", and you'll need to discover the ingredients to some of the buildings/recipes before you can make them

>>7701117
Well I was struggling to even get food I found like two fucking roots and that was all. I was trying to make fences just to try it out but it wouldn't even give me the option. I have all the skills I need...I think.

>>7701124
>struggling to even get food
I don't get how people have trouble with food

I had too much food and had to drink a ton of water to get my hunger down.

>>7701124
If you started in an area with fir trees, then your only sources of food are rabbits, blueberries and the roots.

I'd suggest going out and finding a different coloured area, you'll know it's different because there'll suddenly be trees other than fir. That sort of area has loads of fruit and mulberry trees, which makes it easier to find food.

Other option is to learn fishing, collect some leeches and make a fishing rod then go fishing.

It takes a while to get that far and even then you won't start hauling in large loads until you get a boat.

>>7701078
Eden eternal will have cap raised to 55 if you played. I think I'll go back for a bit, I could use a break from this.

By the by, if you declaim your house in Aokigahara, I'm going to assume it's abandoned, unless you post something here that indicates you still want it and the stuff inside of it.

>>7701140
Is the place safe to pillage? I'd presumed everyone was staying away from there out of fear.

>>7701135
From what I can tell after exploring the place it started me on is completely surrounded by water. I just found a rabbit and another that someone left in a basket so I'm going to try and tough it out and use a bone saw to make something hospitable for now. Probably build a boat and try to find something else soon. Thanks for the advice.

The lack of information on Trolls scares me when mining. What if a Troll spawns right in front of me?

You kids and your shitty F2P games crack me up.

Why don't you take this shit to /v/ where it belongs?

>>7701149
The mine is sealed and someone came back and locked the gates. It is possible that a griefer is camping in the village somewhere. I like to live dangerously though.

>Find out I need 1500 LP to build a boat

Mother of god...

>>7701345
Oh sorry that was me, I'm the only one with a key, I'll open it back up if you want it open.

>>7701351
Don't worry, it's worth it. Alternatively, you could steal a boat from somewhere, but if as you say you're on an island, I guess that's not possible. Whatever you do, DON'T TRY TO SWIM. Swimming is the fastest way to commit suicide.

>>7701359
I actually found somebody who had a boat next to their leanto. I didn't feel like being a dick though. Just grinding LP right now making various shit. Hopefully I figure out what the fuck I'm doing soon.

>somebody floats up on a boat and gives me a shirt and a curio

And you guys act like people are only out to grief you.

>>7701356
Sorry if that gave the wrong impression. If you don't mind, please leave it locked to keep raiders out. If I become desperate to leave, I can hearthbash and respawn.

>>7701382
They are. He just gave that to you so you drop more LP when he comes back to shank you.

Does anybody have 4 Deer Antlers yet? Willing to trade bear hides, bear teeth, copper, iron, and other stuff. Free barter stand with the trade as I still haven't managed to kill a Deer yet.

Friendly raiders of Aokigahara here. We have the key to Hinamizawa from one of the corpse we killed..expect us.

>>7701721
Extend palisade two tiles ahead, build new gate right past old gate, always leave old gate open. Problem solved. It only requires some wood blocks, if Hinamizawa works together, they can do it if they're worried enough. Faster than the raiders can travel there if they depart right away, even.

>>7701721
sup, Oyashiro-sama

>>7701752
That's assuming the gate palisade hasn't been sealed.

>>7701538

we have antlers but have no fucking clue where you are

>>7701771
>>7701752
>>7701721
You know, some people could plant their hearthfires right in front of the gate temporarily after everyone is inside. Then after the raiders have left they get out and move their hearthfires again.

eheh. An angry man showed up outside the walls of Aokigahara demanding to be let in. Then he got buttfrustrated and shot my suicide alt.

>>7701783
If you're in Hinamizawa, I'll just go to where you are. But how many do you have? I need 4. No more, no less.

>>7701721
You are wellcome to come, you will find our gates are open for you.

>>7701721
You underestimate our desire to keep the outside would out.

Aldwyrn: Faggot bullied in rl, faggot bullied in H&H, deal with it.

Where should a noob start out? Aokigahara or Hinamizawa?

>>7702172
Aokigahara is in ruins, Hinamizawa is in total hikkikomori mode. If you want my opinion, you'd have better luck with Hinamizawa.

>>7702172
for the last time, Hinamizawa. Aokigahara is GONE.

>>7701825

we have 5 and I can get more.. it just takes a bit of effort, and yes Hinamizawa

>>7702227
Oh, great! What do you want in return? Besides the (q10) Copper, (q10) Cast Iron, Bear Skins and q100+ bones I now also have a q30 Ant Empress and several q44-q45 Toy Chariots. I also have a couple Stalagooms (q20-q27), and some Cavebulbs, but I doubt you'd be interested in the latter. And of course, I also have Bear Teeth.

I assume Hinamizawa doesn't have a Barter Stand yet?

>>7702219
Its not gone.. its just really unsafe and not much loot is left there...
Still have my alt scout it out now and then, found some nice loot on my hermit life travels... and like to go and pick up creates and the off plant to eat, need to make some more sausages though but momoka took the grinder

>>7702396
forgot the trip that..

Hrmm one of the curios the random boat guy gave me gave me 800 LP so I'm working on a house now. Unfortunately I need food asap. Being hermit is suffering.

>>7702172
Aokigahara

>>7702428
青木が腹 is dead! a lot are dead all over the place and also their HF password should be gone?

and as a new Hermit it's not that bad... found a house the noone was using so droped my claim on it and store some things there while me and my boat roam the rivers. but i also have decent stats and gear so noobs run from me now

>>7702396
If you see a man in a fox hat staring off into space, that's probably my alt idling in the village. May or may not be AFK, and may randomly disappear when I get autologged out. Be careful near the walls as well; I've been shot on one occasion.

I alt-vaulted most of the valuables in unclaimed (village or personal) areas. Well, things that seemed valuable to a poor poor scavenger. Bear teeth, antlers, silk moth eggs, boar tusks, and wool. If you have need of them, I can return them.

>>7702418
hermit is fine. You should have either apple trees for food or fit trees for easy LP. Ether will keep you going until you can get enough perception to find food everywhere.

Only problem I ever have is metals and how annoying looms are to get from scratch due to the useless skill investments you need for it.

>>7702364

we don't have access to much metal as we are just barely getting into it

deer are something we can deal with, albeit with a bit of effort. I've killed a few bears, so we don't really need any high q bones or bear teeth (well, you can always use more high q bones but..)

we do not have a barter stand as we are using our linens for banners and such atm

>>7702592
How much iron/copper do you want for 4 Deer Antlers, exactly? Does 5 bars of cast iron and 10 bars of copper sound fair to you?

>>7702615

thats fine

>>7702640
Okay, I'll be heading that way then. Is there a Lawspeaker or someone else who can invite people online right now? I could skip half the trip by teleporting to Hinamizawa.

>>7702651

with things as they are right now we are reluctant to add people to the village that we do not know

>>7702668
At least Voile knows me, I've traded with Aokigahara before.

this guy had some fat cocks outside his premises and I took a couple. Was this a good idea?

>>7702678
If they weren't inside chicken coops, that means they just spawned there. He wouldn't even know there were any there.

>>7702681
Sweet. I just found a great fishing spot too. Fishing is a fuckton easier than hunting all day in a fir area. Hot damn.

>>7702678
I've never had a guy complain about me taking his cock.

Taking a hiatus. See you in three weeks at the earliest.

Unclaimed cave found around (84,76) (very rough guess)

Anyone know where is the closest food source near the noob camp from Hinamizawa is. Im about to die from hunger.

Past the teleport point now. If I get a village invite, I can be there immediately, otherwise it'll still take a while.

Voile, can you contact me?

fishing is so cash. I can now build my house in peace without worry for food.

>>7702809
Am I late?

Short delay as I had to drop my boat to run from a Boar. Very close to Hinamizawa now.

Fucking Boar.

House is built, got my nice little settlement done, time to get more fishan done. Just found an extra string too. Awww yaaaa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz32WHGPXMI

is that so!

Did you guys get raped by raiders in the end? Im not playing, but its really cute to read your adventures.
Could someone write something about them?

>>7705708
I'm currently trying to reply to your post, but 4chan keeps giving me 'abnormal reply' errors...

Attempting to post in parts, then.

>>7705708
The situation is this:
In the beginning, we played in the old /jp/ village (pictured). Everything was unstructured, we had no town walls, no village claim, only a few people had personal claims, and we were right next to a river and close to other towns. Needless to say, the village was raided, and sometime later a person came by and randomly killed villagers that were online at the time.

Then came the plan to move. A bunch of people moved to a random other place, but Voile found a better place close to Iron Curtain, which IIRC is a /tg/ village? He was pointed there by a friend named Ares. Most /jp/ers then moved to the new village, Aokigahara.

Fucking ridiculous security measures.

Aokigahara was developing well, but Ares brought two (or more?) friends, Uncle Phil and SpiderK, who were less friendly than advertised.

They killed an annoying newbie, then proceeded to beat down everybody who didn't listen to them, notably the fox hat incident were someone was beaten up simply for wearing a fox hat and refusing to take it off.

Okay, I fucking give up. Just ROT13 this:

>>7705708
Gur fvghngvba vf guvf:
Va gur ortvaavat, jr cynlrq va gur byq /wc/ ivyyntr (cvpgherq). Rirelguvat jnf hafgehpgherq, jr unq ab gbja jnyyf, ab ivyyntr pynvz, bayl n srj crbcyr unq crefbany pynvzf, naq jr jrer evtug arkg gb n evire naq pybfr gb bgure gbjaf. Arrqyrff gb fnl, gur ivyyntr jnf envqrq, naq fbzrgvzr yngre n crefba pnzr ol naq enaqbzyl xvyyrq ivyyntref gung jrer bayvar ng gur gvzr.

Gura pnzr gur cyna gb zbir. N ohapu bs crbcyr zbirq gb n enaqbz bgure cynpr, ohg Ibvyr sbhaq n orggre cynpr pybfr gb Veba Phegnva, juvpu VVEP vf n /gt/ ivyyntr? Ur jnf cbvagrq gurer ol n sevraq anzrq Nerf. Zbfg /wc/ref gura zbirq gb gur arj ivyyntr, Nbxvtnunen.

Nbxvtnunen jnf qrirybcvat jryy, ohg Nerf oebhtug gjb (be zber?) sevraqf, Hapyr Cuvy naq FcvqreX, jub jrer yrff sevraqyl guna nqiregvfrq. Gurl xvyyrq na naablvat arjovr, gura cebprrqrq gb orng qbja rirelobql jub qvqa'g yvfgra gb gurz, abgnoyl gur sbk ung vapvqrag jrer fbzrbar jnf orngra hc fvzcyl sbe jrnevat n sbk ung naq ershfvat gb gnxr vg bss. Nebhaq gur fnzr gvzr, Ibvyr qrpvqrq gung Nbxvtnunen jnf trggvat gbb znal arj cynlref naq qrfgeblrq uvf Urnegu Sver fb arj cynlref pbhyqa'g wbva (npghnyyl gurl fgvyy pbhyq, ol hfvat IQM'f Urnegu Sver). Srq hc jvgu gur "cebgrpgbef" naq jnagvat gb perngr n cynpr jurer arjovrf jrer serr gb wbva, IQM tngurerq gur zngrevnyf sbe n cnyvfnqr naq urnqrq fbhgujneqf gb sbhaq n arj ivyyntr: Uvanzvmnjn.

Whfg n fubeg juvyr ntb (>>7698122), Nerf dhvg naq Nbxvtnunen'f "cebgrpgbef" fgnegrq envqvat Nbxvtnunen. Crbcyr sebz Nbxvtnunen rvgure dhvg, orpnzr urezvgf be zbirq gb Uvanzvmnjn.

V qba'g xabj zhpu nobhg gur pheerag fgnghf bs Uvanzvmnjn.

It took me well over half an hour to get this shit posted. Dammit.

>>7705860
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!

>>7705860
>It took me well over half an hour to get this shit posted. Dammit.
Really? Took me 5 seconds to decode it.

>>7705836
>>7705840

>3 guys bully the whole village
>the majority does nothing and let "That Guys" to do whatever they want to do (like beating somebody up for wearing a fox hat)

This reminds me high school.

>/jp/ claims to hate the shit out of Japan.

Virtual bullying, so awesome.

>>7705860
Hinamizawa is doing decently, Silk Road and the satellite settlements seem friendly enough even to the point of kindness being a job. Last I talked to Sec, the chieftain, he found an iron node and is currently producing some decent quality iron bars.

I myself have gone the way of the hermit and struck out for a random area.

Someone should make a bot-army of White Rens, and then unleash them.

>>7705860
They apparently didn't want a bunch of /jp/ randoms shitting up next door, and with Ares out of the way, took to cleaning them out. I can't say I really blame them, although they could have handled it with more tact then just going in and killing everyone. Hinamizawa is fine at the moment as well.

Get out of /jp/.

Anyone know what could cause my inability to connect to the servers after months of it being fine?

>http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21261

Not this person, but having this problem.

You nerds should of been nicer to Hotglue. They would of protected you so you could take it easy but nnnnnnnoooooooooooo.

>>7706112
We're gonna fuck Hotglue's shit up.

I'd like to play this game. Do I need to complete a study like you need to do for Dwarf Fortress before I can begin?

Hark! I hail from the dead former city 7th haven!

The tale of 7th haven is a sad one. It was started up by a group of guys who wanted to try fucking about the game. We had built a large city, far off from anywhere else, near a river.

After a while Russians striked, destroying many of the 7th Haven's resources and people. The survivors build up defences and have become incredibly paranoid over time. They refused to let me, the second citizen who ever showed up at 7th haven, into any of the new camps because I was inactive. The group who were once about having fun are now about growing in power and dominating the game. But they will never succeed for there is only two players left in that group.

I implore you to becareful about getting two serious about this game, it'll make you into the thing you originally hated, a dick.

>>7706206
But what if I am already a dick?

Great new guy someone is making:
http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19114&sid=0d0c9bbc18a084a3bdfe2df876
e6640a

>>7706615
>guide

>>7706204
knowing the basic actions would help alot but the people around Hinamzawa have noobie camp for people to learn the game

Hurray!

Aaand dead again. fucking game glitched me out of my boat, and i drowned.

This game kind of reminds me of Tribal wars when /b/ invaded the world map.

Hey guys im not really from /jp/ and can only beat most Touhou on normal. However i do fap to Rance and Monmusa girl quest and want to join a village. Am i coowl? Guys?

>>7707244
Why would any of that even matter? Get your ass over here and plow some dirt.

>>7707244
you wouldnt happen to be HyperWeapon in game cause i just kinned you then

>>7705860
I was not here during the creation of the village, but let me pick this up from what I know of Hinamizawa.

Apparently Sec became the lawspeaker for Hinamizawa (so that means Sec is VDZ? I'm not sure, all I know is I've never seen VDZ III once, despite following his hearthfire to the village) which is close to a group named Silk Road. The village grew; and with the abandoned villages nearby their resources were bolstered from the start. Farms began to cover the earth, animals were hunted and gathered, and the people worked together to build more facilities to accommodate the flow of fresh recruits coming in at every hour. Villagers were assigned to help mentor the new players and give them jobs such as building their own houses, while the older members worked on finding higher quality resources and covering the village's needs. Then, a covered wagon bearing refugees confirmed what chat amongst the villagers had mentioned of Aokigahara's fate. On a sad note, the village's ranks grew that day by as much as the defenses had. The old keys became useless.

Hinamizawa is currently expanding, and putting more emphasis on getting the newbies to help out in the village's affairs. Most recently they've been making use of the mines, and can finally make sausage.

>>7707394
No. We might be related tho

>>7706033

Ok, I will.

I'll make a bunch of alts and just give them military skills and work my way up to murder, and kill anyone who threaten's /jp/'s village.

Only my leadership will bring glory for /jp/

Server has been down for 4 hours, what are Jorb and Loftar doing

Server is back up!

>>7707452
Sec is not VDZ.

Finally got yeomanry and claimed my land. Farms are started and I'm hoping to start getting palisades up. Wish I could find a mine nearby but there is nothing around...

Hmm...I think we hit autosage?

not sure why they call me the village hunter

New thread: >>7709861