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>The top line shows that they only have consumer development at this point, no more arcade dev.
oh god what

I bought all their iphone ports... What have I done...

>>7686233
Well since 42% of their revenue are from 'social / smartphone' games I'd say you're keeping them alive. BUT AT WHAT COST.

I wonder what the sales figures are like, though. Obviously the apps are cheap and can sell more, but are the dev costs of console arcade ports that high / sales that low that it's only 14.5%?

>>7686233
You're supporting their development for the handheld market.

Also, I have bought Death Smiles and Bug Panic; the former because I can't get a copy of the game and the latter because it looked like an interesting game. It wasn't.

>>7686239
It's not terribly surprising. There's only a very limited number of console ports sold worldwide, and the userbase on iOS is way larger than 360 anyways, even disregarding only j360s. And they're by far the best games of that genre, by such a wide margin it's not even a contest.

>>7686244
Yeah, I didn't buy Bug Panic and I'm glad I didn't. Still, it's nice to be able to support them but I don't want them to forget why their games are so good in the first place. After all, Bug Panic is the only one that wasn't on the arcade first, and it's trash compared to the others.

>>Japan making brown and bloom games
>>CAVE focusing on Farmville 2
>>Megaman series canned forever
>>touhou dubstep remixes exist
>>a new PVC figure of Saber created every 3.5 seconds
>>my face after everything

So it begins. The end of the video games is here.

>>7686228

I'm ok with this because I'm not a weeaboo faggot.

You know, I would actually buy their games if they came to the PS3. Weird that they don't port them.

>>7686251
>>>/v/ shitposting outsourced to India
>>>not greentexting with three >s

>>7686247
If they want to increase console sales maybe they just need to do more XBLA ports then ala DS2.

Hard to believe consoles get Nin2-Jump but iOS and Windows Phone 7 get stgs.

>>7686251

The videogame industry has been going down the toilet for years.

>>7686251
>>>touhou dubstep remixes exist

But I don't want to buy an iPhone.

NO SHIT?
Arcade boards run on overpriced outdated hardware, are easy to pirate and emulate, niche, unmarketable, etc.

I don't get it why people still want arcades to exist. Surely I love my arcade games and memories, but it's the games design and philosophy that I like not the slimy smelly places.

It's about time they got on with the times.

>>7686292
Too bad, it's the way of the future.

Not that David Lynch would agree.

>revenue while arcade/console brought in 14.5%.

Maybe if they stop producing "japan only shit" they will get more money.

go back to neoGAF / TNL OP

IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT MY PREFERENCE OF MEDIA WILL GAIN LESS FOCUS THAN THE MAINSTREAM TRENDS

TO BE SURE, THE MAINSTREAM IS MORE ACCESSIBLE AND PROFITABLE, BUT IT LACKS THE DEPTH OF MY TASTES AND THUS IS CAUSING PEOPLE TO MISS OUT

I CAN ONLY STAND BACK AND WATCH AS THE CAVE MAKES A DECISION THAT I WOULD RATHER IT NOT

TODAY IS A DARK DAY IN HISTORY

>>7686520
Well said.

What does IKD-san do now, he made good games ;_; (in b4 he made DFK, he didn't)

>look up apps by cave
>shitty shooters, each $12
they can go bankrupt for all i care

People pirate their games for years, then wonder why they're slowly shifting to a userbase too dumb to download things from the internet.

>>7687202

That's a sound business plan.

>>7686251
touhou dubstep? this one was actually good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRhrsgZ6uE

>>7687254
>moomar2

Closed the site.

>>7687259
>getting mad at the uploader

>>7686520

Go away, Elixir.

Fuckkkkkk, all their iphone games are easy as shit, what happens now?

All of their stuff will be emulated soon, that's enough STG to last me forever.

>>7686228
More like CAVE is too retarded to develope a good arcade platform unlike SH3

Did everyone just forget about that Nesxica Live system, where the majority of games will be released to arcades digitally (like BBCS3 is)? It's probably going to be their next way to access arcades, unfortunately this absolutely destroys all PCB importers' hopes and dreams.

Why are we sad again?


I doubt this is the end of the arcade pcbs and if it is they just make shitty social games well duhhh we will be seeing something that shooter developers are famous for "Guys with said interest in genre leave and form own studio"


Shit we have been seeing this shit since IREM developers that made Geostorm formed Nazca and made Metal Slug for fuck sake guys


Another fine example is G-REV,YGW leaving 8ing and joining CAVE etc etc

>>7687305
CAVE gets tons of money by selling PCBs, they will never ever go digital distribution(perhaps on the actual ARCADE PCBs then they only sell physical home edition pcbs ala Akai Katana Limited edtion)

But the Nesxica Live system is only available for TYPE EX2 and having games on typex2 is like shooting yourself in the foot some guy can freaking take the damn pcb with the game on and just dump it to pc and get it running on windows within a week

>>7687318
Remember when this was supposed to be a secret?
I don't.

>>7687323
?

>>7687326
I'm guessing he's referring to
>some guy can freaking take the damn pcb with the game on and just dump it to pc and get it running on windows within a week

>>7687328

but that hasn't happened, though.

Well, at least, not for shmups.

>>7687332
>implying all TAITO TYPE EX based shooters like
>Raiden III,IV,Homura,Giga Wing Generations,Shikigami no Shiro have not been dumped to PC

>>7687334

None are by Cave. No material from Nesxica Live has been dumped and released for PC.

>>7687339
>None are by Cave
Maybe because CAVE has not yet worked on TYPE EX?

>No material from Nesxica Live has been dumped and released for PC.

It's just a matter of time

For the low arcade revenue CAVE has no one but themselves to blame for


Their last game Akai Katana for example while imo a great game it is definetly crippled by the weak SH3 platform which ruins alot of the scoring oppurtunities that would have existed, Hate on second loops as much as you want but they produce more cash as in harder and longer game people prefer to spend their time in a 10 stage game then doing very very very minor adjustments and increases in score in a 5 stage game only.

I suppose you could say...
Cave got caved.

>>7687374
No, I don't think you could really say that at all.

>>7687364
Also if you are going to do a 1loop game only atleast have the decency to make it 6 stages we all know that its at 1-3 the actual game begins

>>7687308

In a perfect world, the purists who leave could collaborate with ZUN (not to make Touhou, but to at least have ZUN influence in their projects).

If they leave the arcades they will make some expensive game that they will think is so awesome but it will bomb so fucking hard that they will either go bankrupt or return to shmups this scenario is aka Guilty Gear 2: Overture

>>7687384
There's no reason we need to have everything like Touhou. Cave games are quite fine as they are, variety is always important.

CAVE pulling out of the arcades the first time in history when their games are reaching the west and infact sellling?


Yeah ok i doubt that guys.

>>7686334
Holy fuck that's horrifying.

>>7687382
Most of Cave's 5 stage games would probably be way too hard and long if they extended them 6. I don't even want to imagine a stage 6 in Futari.

Sometimes it fits if the game is on the easy side, like Akai Katana, or Death Smiles, but again those games are on the long side. Zetsu in Akai Katana takes a while to get through, and Death Smiles Mega Black Label is like 45 minutes long if you do everything. That's out of control for a single loop game.

>>7687588
>>7687588
Mushihime Sama,Futari are one of the few 5 stage games that got it right

Usually 1-loop games are mostly 6-7 stages
like Mars Matrix,Garegga etc

Also whats up with the final boss in Akai Katana he feels more like a stage 4 boss in terms of difficult he does not even do anything menancing hell the stage 3 progear final pattern is more difficult then anything he does

>>7687593
They're not really comparable. Mars Matrix and Psikyo games for example have a bunch of stages, but the stages are also pretty damn short. It still take 20ish minutes games to clear those games once, and most of Cave's non-looping games are longer than that (or identical).

Death Smiles and Pink Sweets are too damn long, in my opinion.

>>7687606
DeathSmiles long?

the hell imo its pretty damn short i will give you Pink Sweets when being long but DeathSmiles really?

Except for the extra stages the regular ones are pretty damn short except the last one

>>7687610
Without the extra stages Death Smiles is a nice length, but the Canyon starts pushing it a little. And then in Mega Black Label Cave decided to add in ANOTHER stage, as if it weren't long enough already. Fuck that.

death smiles at us all
cave smiles back

>>7687762
we have a poet in the house

>So basically everybody is misreading that report. As my wonderful Cave PR rep told me, the fears that Cave are pulling out of console/arcade dev are - his words - "complete bullshit." Essentially, it's just a restructuring. The two departments referred to on page 28 are Asada and Ikeda's consumer game departments, respectively. The teams doing smartphone games/apps are separate. So arcade and consumer dev are still moving ahead.

>It also means Ikeda's moving back into a bigger game design position, which makes me happy.

>JOURNLOLISM
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=708697#p708697

False alarm?

>It also means Ikeda's moving back into a bigger game design position
>It also means Ikeda's moving back into a bigger game design position
>It also means Ikeda's moving back into a bigger game design position

now Ikeda can finally make Ketsui 2: The Second Coming