/jp/ - Otaku Culture

You forgot Game : http://www.mangagamer.com/r18/Titles/Details/359B59DA-2B1C-4FD1-8574-58C8343CF220/kara-no-shoujo

>>7590102
But your image is from cartagra though.

Anyone know how well it sold? I really want Innocent Gray to release more of their titles over here,

>>7590135
I kind of feel like writing a thank you note to innocent grey~

Anybody have a link to just the crack?

I bought the game and would like to be able to play it without waiting two minutes for it to start thanks to the fucking DRM.

>>7590161
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc13d95/n/kara_no_shoujo_drm_free.exe

Tojiko ;_;

>>7590171
I feel your pain, bro.

>>7590161
Go through 2thread back.
It is in part1.

>>7590165
Thanks.

Seriously this VN needed at least one good end or at least let us pick someone to save.

Innocent Grey is fucking with us.

So this really doesn't have one good ending? I dont know if i should play it or not..

>>7590135
It doesn't sell well. I won't say numbers but we were surprised how low it's been so far.

>>7590205
Life doesn't always have good endings, Anon.

Truck end is an awesome BAD END.

The engine this game uses is ridiculously unoptimized. I have a 2.5Ghz dual core and it maxes out one of the cores. Ridiculous.

>>7590192
Hell no, I'd have hated fucking gay, sugary endings where no one dies or nothing happened. The true ending was what fits the game the most considering everything.

>>7590218
Except it's not a bad end

>>7590206
Can you give us general numbers, like "We wanted 10k sales but we're under 5k" ?

>>7590209
"life sucks and then you die" is just about the most tired cliche in the history of pretentious DEEP bullshit, I had more than enough of it in western media, thank you very much.
Of course, it works like a charm on people who dislike happy endings and for the lack of wider perspective equate them with Hollywood blockbuster-tier entertainment.

>>7590225
Read the old threads. I think 2 threads back, a solution was posted.

>>7590240
Bad endings are not a cliche and you are actually retarded if you think they are.

>>7590240
but the story wasn't about "Life sucks and then you die"

It was about Reiji's struggle of detectives not always being able to catch the criminal before they strike. As a result, by choosing to go investigate on your own instead of helping the police, he's effectively choosing to fulfill Toko's final wishes of finding who she was.

>>7590237
Their best selling game is Shuffle, which sold just over 1000 copies.
>We wanted 10k sales but we're under 5k
In their wildest dreams, it probably sold 1 or 2 hundred.

>>7590131
She's much cuter in Cartagra. On the other hand, Hatsune is cuter in Kara no Shoujo.

>>7590237
No I can't, and I wouldn't either. To begin with I have no idea how many sales MG was expecting anyway. I feel bad for Innogrey when they'll see so few sales though.

>>7590254
All of a sudden, I kind of feel bad for mangagamer.

I bought a copy a few days ago, but I had no idea their numbers were so low though.

>>7590310
Wait 5 years till I have an income and I'll start helping MG out by buying from them f they're still around by then

At first I was going to buy this game, but meh I saw gruesome bloody scenes from many reviews, pass.

>>7590290
After reading that I just realized that there's a prequel to Kara no Shoujo.

At least we know Shugo manages to save someone.

Can someone spoil the true ending in detail? Finished all others and I'm a bit tired to go through all of this from the beginning.
Also, nobody really get the meaning of the train scene as I see, where %%probably, Rokushiki gave an egg which he stole to Shinji, I mean, Shinji was obsessed with his mother search so it should be him that boy who found his mother in that train, but about the one who gives this egg i am not sure, because this story is told even if Rokushiki goes to jail%% So, can someone shed light to that train scene?
I have another question, about doctor Fumiya. %%Where did he lost his fingers? Chizuru said something about her fault and wincest, but does she said exactly why Fumiya lost them?%%

>>7590359
Why is that a problem?

>>7590362
Maybe he's not into guro?

>>7590361
What are those "%%"? Use spoiler tags.

>>7590376
Because the game has SO MUCH guro.

>>7590361
Spoiler tags exist for a reason, please use them.

Awww, sucks. I'm not familiar with this board, in Russian aib %% are spoiler tags

>>7590409
It's [spoile r] Text [/spoiler]

Delete your post and repost it with that

>>7590380
Well some of the murders were pretty fucked up. Especially what Mamiya Shinji was doing to the girls after he murdered them.

>>7590380
Different strokes for different folks.

>>7590434
I though they looked pretty, from a horribly fucked up PoV, all the bloody parts were properly taken care of and all.

>>7590442
Personally I find having a collection of mummified limbless corpses way creepier than just slashing them up and dumping them. It just shows what a creep Shinji was.

Also because you could tell which one was Tojiko and that made me sad.

Can someone spoil the true ending in detail? Finished all others and I'm a bit tired to go through all of this from the beginning.
Also, nobody really get the meaning of the train scene as I see, where probably, Rokushiki gave an egg which he stole to Shinji, I mean, Shinji was obsessed with his mother search so it should be him that boy who found his mother in that train, but about the one who gives this egg i am not sure, because this story is told even if Rokushiki goes to jail So, can someone shed light to that train scene?
I have another question, about doctor Fumiya. Where did he lost his fingers? Chizuru said something about her fault and wincest, but does she said exactly why Fumiya lost them?

>>7590491
I assumed that Chizuru had bitten off the tips of Fumiya's fingers while he was trying to rape her.

>>7590523
So, it was a rape?

>>7590523
It was consensual. I don't recall the finer details but it was regret for getting her pregnant. Something like self punishment

>>7590523
It was consensual. She wanted Touko to die because she was stealing her brother from her. I don't recall the finer details but it was regret for getting her pregnant. Something like self punishment

This game is pretty impossible to clear properly without a walkthrough and not having the freedom to choose whatever you want in your first playthrough kills part of the fun.
I still enjoyed the game though and I think the translation was pretty top-tier, so good job MG.

>>7590491
I remember that the identity of the person on the train couldn't be determined, it could either be a young adult or a man in his thirties. Probably both were the case; in one ending it was Shinji and in another one it was Rokushiki. Though this is just my idea.

>>7590548
>>7590571

>>7590600
Ah, I see that I was wrong.

>>7590600
I was under the impression that it was completely consensual

So it was an accident?

>>7590642
Maybe it turned consensual eventually, but it definitely doesn't seem that way at the time.

Fumiya mentions later how he should have controlled his selfish lust.

>>7590600
Because of those words I lost the track, still don't get it how did he lost fingers

>>7590659
It's implied that Chizuru did something to him or that he did it to himself because he felt guilty.

>Fumiya mentions later how he should have controlled his selfish lust
I think, the problem here is getting her pregnant with diseased boy, well, you know, wincest problems, also Fumiya's father long before protagonist hears about incest says something like "DO NOT WANT INCEST GRANDDAUGHTER"

>>7590600
I also remember him saying that he did it to himself, but this could be interpreted like he got his hand damaged because of his own lust, so in the end it's his work albeit indirectly.

I just wanted to save Tojiko. Even once. Even if it was a bad end, that's all I wanted. ;_;

Also, regarding the bad end where Yukari is frozen. and you decide to wait, a bunch of shit about recoveringis said in the hospital. However, this is still a bad end.

Why? Is it because You die of shock, or something? Or is it because you're recovering in the hospital and therefore can't help stop the murders?

>>7590670
Too vague, I thought maybe it's my problems with understanding english and I missed something about Fumiya. Well, if nothing said exactly, whatever, forget it ._.

>>7590704
Reiji dies but everyone else makes it. By extension no one else dies either other than those two generic girls and possibly Toko (assuming Shinji was after her from the start) since Reiji doesn't get them involved.

I knew it was going to end with Reiji getting everyone dragged into the murders especially after Tojiko started following him around.[/spoilers]

>>7590469
You cold? Which one was her?

>>7590725
The one with Tojiko's hair obviously. Reiji even mentions it.

>>7590725
Far right.

>>7590729
Captcha made me drop my image, sorry.

So, can anyone tell me what was added to the true ending in details?
Toko gone missing(most likely already dead) with Shinji, Rokushiki goes to jail, protoganist says something like "well, I messed up and failed to protect everyone, but hey, it's coffee time!", am I right?

>>7590769
Since you start a relationship with Toko, she starts drawing a picture in her canvas, you get to see it
Also you save Kazuna and her baby, so you see them too.
Not gonna tell you more, just finish the goddamn thing. it's less than an hour of skipping.

>>7590778
FFFFFFFine, tomorrow I'll do it.
I wanted to read Cartagra before I even heard of Kara no Shoujo, but now this feeling is nearly unbearable. And still that motivation is not enough to make self-studying of rune language, awww.

I really enjoyed the one ending where Reiji presumably ends up with Kyoko

Toko might be dead, Shugo's wife might be in a coma, and Tojiko is dead as fuck..but at least Reiji sent away his fiance's muderer and can settle with poor Kyoko who just wants to be loved I really hope I wasn't the only one who liked Kyoko the best, much more than the other girls. She just has that older woman charm about her that I just adore.

And of course no one cares about other-Toko.

Not even Reiji.

>>7590888
It's awfully hard to sympathize with her after a certain event.

>>7590888

I felt that while she did a very bad thing, it was an accident. I didn't feel like she should have died (which most anons here outright disagreed with me on)

I feel that if I were Toko, having a little Toko to follow me around would be pretty fun, and probably comforting in a way. In this case, I would totally forgive her for the accident.

>>7590938
Shit no. I certainly wouldn't like a yandere stalker around me.

>>7590964
But to Toko, she isn't a yandere stalker.

She's like a best friend with similar issues as you.

Really, the only difference between Toko and Toko is that Toko is willing to branch out to Reiji, while Toko is very protective of Toko.

Kind of.

These people have no self-preservation instinct whatever.

Why the fuck would you go alone with creepy black-clothed guy you don't know even if he's famous

>>7591029
She admired him and technically the murders ahd stopped
Not to mention they were both authors and he probably feigned interest in her works adn invited her to his home (Tojiko is kinda... slutty)

>>7591088
She's too dumb to know any better.

Then again she wanted to fuck Reiji so she could write better about sex scenes in her books. Poor dumb Tojiko ;_;

>>7591088

And it was 50s Japan. People were a lot more trusting back then.

When my dad was like 5 in Japan he would go outside at night alone and explore, and it was considered a lot more safe.

I wish I had the option to shoot Shinji. I was out for blood after Tojiko's death even though the death flags were being raised. Although sad, I accepted the true end as well and found it to be perfect for KnS's end.

>>7591109
What about all those scary occupying troops in the area?

>>7590873
Romancing with Kyoko is like NTRing Uozumi. I seriously hope you guys don't(ry
Anyway yeah, I'd rather see him hooking up with her, he's pretty fun when he's embarrassed about his love toward her.

>>7591134
Strictly, I guess it is like NTRing him, but I don't think it's like the traditional NTR, rather she just chose someone else.

It's like, guy likes girl, girl likes guy's friendship but is going out with someone else. Totally normal, he'd just have to move on.

NTR would be something like guy likes girl, girl likes guy, but girl also gets gangraped by someone else and ends up liking getting gangraped more than guy

>>7591146

It doesn't have to be gang rape. In a lot of good NTR titles it's simply the heroine cheating with another guy.

>>7591134
You have a first person conversation with Kyouko as Ouzumi in the trial. It goes something like this:
"Ara, Ouzumi, how are you?"
"Ou"
"Would you want some coffee?"
"Aa"
"You look tired. Is the current case giving you trouble?"
"Ou"

>>7591151
Well whatever, girl cheats on guy.

While Uozomi likes Kyoko, by no means is Kyoko cheating on him with Reiji at all.

>>7591155

True. It wouldn't be classified as NTR.

Additionally Kyoko isn't really aware how much Uzoumi likes her.

I'm rather dense and this can be interpreted in multiple ways, but do you think Toko found peace? Her request is fulfilled by Reiji uncovering the mysteries of her past and identity, but she never herself found out. The last thing she leaves behind is her painting that to me symbolized her freedom from her 'untrue' self. Still to the end whether or not she died (as her condition wouldn't let her live long anyway) she was, I believe, still lonely.

>>7591169

I'd say she pretty much died when she got run over. She was doped up on so many pain killers afterwards, that everything would pretty much be a blur.

But you know, if it's inevitable that she's going to die, I think it's good that Reiji fulfilled her request for her. It's like closing a case for the family after the murderer kills their child. While she might have died lonely, Reiji did all that he could for her.

I kind of consider the ending where you team up with the policeman and have limbless-but-Alive toko there to be the 'good' end, but I don't remember much about that ending, I played it second. I'd have to reread it.

>>7591134
Uozumi is too beta to do anything with her so that means she's ripe for the picking. Meanwhile she's withering away as a lonely widow so getting with her is definitely a good thing. Uozumi might be a bro but if he's not gonna do anything with her it's a waste to leave her alone. Uozumi can go jerk off in the bathroom at the wedding and get Hatsune to comfort him since she'll grapple onto any man.

>>7591196
>good end
>Toko living forever in a prison of flesh

Hm Pianissimo takes place in 1936 so unlike Shugo we don't get to see what happens to Reiji after KnS.

[spoilers]That means no happy end for Reiji ever[/spoiler] since he is stuck in Toko end forever

How does it make you feel to know that Shugo gets to live a long happy life with a hot wife and cute child and also a moe waitress girl who idolizes him but Reiji is forever alone

>>7591209
If she's alive, Reiji can continue investigating and fulfill her request. If she's dead, he can never report back.

I like my Tokos alive, thank you very much.

>>7591205
Poor Gumshoe

>>7591215
You are a cruel man.

Hm Pianissimo takes place in 1936 so unlike Shugo we don't get to see what happens to Reiji after KnS.

That means no happy end for Reiji ever since he is stuck in Toko end forever

How does it make you feel to know that Shugo gets to live a long happy life with a hot wife and cute child and also a moe waitress girl who idolizes him but Reiji is forever alone

>>7591209
She seemed okay with it.

>>7591215
Yaaa~ sensei ;_;

just asking /jp/
seeing these are xp3 files i guess i just copy them into game directory I guess?

>>7591225
He already lives with the perfect candidate for future wife.

>>7591238

Yes, just put all xp3's in the game directory.

>>7591230
Did you miss the part where all she wanted was to be free? That end makes her a cripple totally unable to even move.
reminds me of Celes and her Guillem Barre

>>7591248
I liked the kouhai that wanted to be his assistant better.
She was cute and may grow up to be like Touji from Cartagra.

>>7591258
Are you talking about kendo girl? I remember no other kouhai.

>>7591253
Reiji can carry her on her back and they can go on wacky adventures together!~


I'm conflicted, Anon. Her being handicapped would make me happier, while it would make her less happy ? Can you get less happy than DEAD?

I guess death is the ultimate freedom, isn't it?

You know /jp/, I was with you into all this Slut calling business. "What? She dared to look at another man? SLUT!" But after playing Cartagra, my view is changed, those girls are just lonely and want someone to comfort them.

>>7591205
>get Hatsune to comfort him since she'll grapple onto any man.
Lies and slander! My Hatsune is a pure good girl!

>>7591293

......moe

>>7591293
She didn't look so pure when she was blowing Reiji's cock.


Just kidding, Anon. I didn't really like Hatsune (Pretty neutral towards her), but people are different. I've met people who loved Tsuzuriko (and I couldn't stand her until the end of arc 1), and so forth.

>>7591264
Yeah, kendo.

>>7591293
slut=/=whores
The whores in Cartagra were lovely, especially Rin and then they go Tojiko on her, or they went rin on Tojiko

>>7591225

Reiji's only consolation is that he looks like a badass and can sleep with anyone he wants including his sister

>>7591334
He looks like a badass but gets his ass kicked like a bitch in like every scene involving Reiji-ass-kickage.

You'd think an ex-soldier, former cop, and active detective would be less prone to getting his ass murdered at every possible turn.

>>7591303
I know, she's pretty weak in both games, specially Kara no Shoujo. For a girl so infatuated with Shuugo she really jumps on Reiji's dick quick enough.

But she was cute as fuck in Kara no Shoujo and I was trying to get her on my first playthough but fuck the flags (I was pretty sure that giving her the jacket would score a point but no, it was peeking at her face. Fuck the flags)

Her confession scene kinda moved me in Cartagra, she informs Shuugo that she will be joining the local workforce and accepts her fate but she wishes that the first time she won't be treated like merchandise ;_;

>>7591328
Oh come on, Rin was literally begging for cock every chance she saw Shuugo, if that's not a slut then I really don't know how to define it.

Don't get me wrong, I really liked Rin, specially that scene at the park, just before the sex.

>>7591303
I found her to be pretty funny..she was so sexually inexperienced despite working in a whorehouse. I guess that's what made her cute.

Her H-scenes weren't too bad..the only ones I particularly hated were Natsume's. I didn't like those at all.

>>7591358
But she was a whore, she got paid.
She actually LOVED Shuugo, mainly because he reminded her of her dead brother.
Not to mention her last words were 'please, save me, Shuugo'
If that's not love...

>>7591452
Hatsune didn't offer any "services" at the brother due her being too young. Child prostitution is illegal after all, except in cults, where it's mandatory.

>>7591480
I don't recall Shuugo compensating Rin with money for her services.

And the semantics are against you.
>slut  [sluht] Show IPA
>–noun
>1. a dirty, slovenly woman.
>2. an immoral or dissolute woman; prostitute.

I'm not attacking her for being a prostitute. I'm just saying that Cartagra (specially Rin) changed my view of sluts (in the cock craving sense) in eroge.

>he reminded her of her dead brother.
Innocent Grey sure loves incest. The most fucked up in the head is Nana, no wonder how Shuugo recoils at the simple mention of her name.

>>7591550
I just make the distinction between
>slut: woman who fucks because she likes to
and
>whore: woman who fucks becasue she's paid to
And what I meant was that Rin always fucked Shuugo for free because she loved him as a person, it wasn't just business.

>>7591565
I've never implied otherwise.

>I'm not attacking her for being a prostitute. I'm just saying that Cartagra (specially Rin) changed my view of sluts (in the cock craving sense) in eroge.

You guys play Cartagra in JP or something? Or is there a TL patch out there somewhere?

Do people actually play this shit?

Wow.

>>7591205
>get Hatsune to comfort him since she'll grapple onto any man
Hatsune is not a slut!

>>7591242
I know the feel, bro ;_;

>>7591303
>didn't look pure
But she is inexperienced in blowjobbing.

>>huh

>>7591759
What the hell kind of question is that on /jp/

>huh

>>7591781
A legit one mang. I mean I've seen some pretty shittastic VNs in my time, but this one really sucks the cock. It's not even in the 'so bad it's funny' category.

Innocent grey has taught a valuable lesson: Never trust in artist. Writer, painters, they're all crazy.

>>7591734
I started reading it in Chinese until I found a translation mistake ("I've never seen that around here" instead of "She doesn't look like a girl who has any business here") and switched back to Japanese (thanks anon who told me to search in hongfire).

>>7591781
He is just a new shitposting tripfag. Filter him and move on.

>>7591809
Oh. Never mind then. I had given you benefit of doubt of you being just some faggot from another board who picked the first VN thread he saw to troll at, but looks like you're just plain old troll.

Innocent grey has taught a valuable lesson: Never trust in an artist. Writer, painters, they're all crazy.

>>7591734
I started reading it in Chinese until I found a translation mistake ("I've never seen that girl around here" instead of "She doesn't look like a girl who has any business here") and switched back to Japanese (thanks anon who told me to search in hongfire).

>>7591845
Guess you haven't played Caucasus yet else you'd have added musicians too to your spoiler.

And wow, I never knew Chinese tl patches are so inaccurate.

>>7591845
I should read it in Chinese but I think this shit might be too DEEP for my rudimentary Chinese reading ability.

>>7591841
lol pulling the troll card before any debate even started? Not that theres much to debate here. I seriously think these threads are full of trolls circlejerking to piss off oldfags. How about telling me why this piece of shit can be considered good in ANY way? Is it because of those retarded trial and error 'investigation' minigames?

Keima would have found a way to save Tojiko and Toko

THEY DIED FOR YOUR SINS

>>7592124
I liked it. I don't care if the visual novel is 'good' or 'bad', but there is a discussion here, and since I liked the visual novel, I'm more than willing to talk about it with other people that liked it / are willing to talk about it.

The only troll here is you~

>>7591265
I would much rather be dead than a quad amputee

Living like that is hardly "living".

>>7592272
Well, you have to kind of take yourself out of your current situation.

Imagine you have someone you fell in love with, on top of a few loose ends you want to know the answer to. While it is a lot more restricting movement wise, it's not like she's brain dead or anything.

This was mentioned in another thread, but the idea of an ending where toko survives as an amputee, Reiji learns about her past and tells her, she finished the painting, and then dies happily would be the most appealing to me as a true ending.

I'm mopping up Cartagra's true end. Now, I've read that people said that pp's story is sub par (but needed for Nagomibako) and Caucasus's system is broken. Should I read them anyway?

>>7592036
It's a hit or miss. I've read Clannad and G-sen in Chinese and I couldn't find any big blunders in them.

>>7592102
It's a good way to practice the language anon. Hook it up and use an online dictionary to translate the words you don't know. At least that's what I do.

>>7592462
Mostly I'm just not up to staring at some dismembered corpse for twenty minutes while trying to puzzle through a bunch of difficult characters.

>>7592489
Like I said, hook it and look up the words on a dictionary.

Y'know, the worst part about this VN, is how if some part in it infuriates you, you can never really get any revenge. What I wouldn't give to just use Reiji's gun on Mamiya

Dude, where do you get to meet up or know the name Mamiya Shinji? I'm trying to get all the endings and I need to know his name for one.

>>7592899
You get his name from a picture in Crazy-toko's room.

>>7592899
When you Investigate crazy Toko's room, it's behind the book case.

Thanks brah
*internet high fives

At last, finished Cartagra. Great game, although there is too many twists within twists in the last part, I had to read some sentences several times to understand them. Also, I didn't like the Shirakawa Nanaka that they pulled there.
All in all, I liked it better than Kara no Shoujo. The bad ends are very violent and disgusting but there are happy ends too.

I don't get how reading KnS spoils Cartagra by knowing that Kazuna is pregnant like some anon said threads ago.

Do other Innocent gray games follow the same pattern? Gruesome murders, a murderer is caught mid game but the the real culprit is still running around: a crazy artist uses mutilation as tool/inspiration for his works. And some infodumping by the end.

>>7593389
>Do other Innocent gray games follow the same pattern?
No. Pianissimo and Caucasus are really different in that sense.
Caucasus only has one culprit you catch during the main final climax (but there are endings where other -innocent- characters take the blame instead)..
And Pianissimo is like, you hook up with the main heroine go on romantic date with her, have sex with her in the evening and you find her in the bed by your side with a knife plunged in her heart, and blood everywhere, including all over you. Then the game is about whether you committed this murder (and the hooker girl half an hour into the game), or you are just being framed by someone.
>I don't get how reading KnS spoils Cartagra
As I said before it's like when Yura is pretending to be Kazuna right after Yaginuma comes and saves the day, you know that Kazuna is not blind in KnS, therefore the girl with the bandage can't be Kazuna. Twins pretending to be their other twins is cliche anyway, there are so many of those I don't even raise an eyebrow at those anymore.
>>7592462
Yeah they are worth playing definitely, but as I said before, don't expect amazing story to blow you away in Pia, and Caucasus too has many smaller issues in my opinion. Benio is delicious though.

>>7594559
>Caucasus only has one culprit
Really? I always thought there were two: the one who committed the first (not planned and unrelated) murder and the other one who did everything else. Or did I miss any important plot points there?

>I don't get how reading KnS spoils Cartagra
>Twins pretending to be their other twins is cliche anyway,
Indeed. It was so obvious that I couldn't believe it at the beginning and hoped that they only made it look that way with the real twist still coming, but it really was that shallow. And it even got worse after that: Nana

requesting full save game :) from /jp/

>>7594828
Reported for being underage.
>>>/gaia/

>>7594808
Well yeah fair enough, there's two culprit in this sense, but finding out that one culprit who did the murders happening after that are what the murder mystery was about I thought, I considered the murder's death more like part of the setting than a mystery myself.

Hey, Nana is awesome though.

>>7594808
Well yeah fair enough, there's two perpetrators in this sense, but finding out that one culprit who did the murders happening throughout the game are what the murder mystery was about I thought, I considered the groom's death more like part of the setting than the mystery myself.

Hey, Nana is awesome though.

Really, no one feels the slightest bit sorry for other-Toko?

Watched two of her friends get murdered
Found out she's directly responsible for her best friend's near-fatal injuries
Her mother is a tramp and ignores her
Got murdered by her own brother
Had her corpse disposed of by her own mother
No one even cared when she was found

At least when Tojiko was killed everyone acted like it meant something to them.

>>7595327
The other Touko is like /jp/:
- Trapped in her delusions
- Boring personality
So no, nobody cares about her.

>>7595349
But that's the best part.

>>7594559
Hakama + Pantyhose? You've sold me. Pic related.

Well, in the producers' defense, Yura wasn't really blind. I was really fearing that Kazuna in KnS was really Yura after what anon said. Anyway the biggest red herring that threw me away was the prologue with the burial scene. 3 people that look similar is one too many.

Nana? Awesome? Depend on your definition of awesome.
Incestuous feelings towards her brother? I'm OK with that.
Bokukko? Not really my cup of tea but I don't mind.
Girl genius that knows everything? I can take that much humiliation and an intelligent girl is always welcome.
Now, guiding your brother to a crazy cannibal bitch's lair, wait after she has broken him mentally and physically until he succumbs to eating Rin's rotten remains and has a festering and rotten leg? Not cool on my book.
Cosplaying as nurse and raping her brother? Hot.
Let her brother go through that torture so she can take care of him forever? That's just crazy.

Conclusion: Too Yandere for my tastes.

Also, twincest end where? Yura just wanted some loving and I doubt Shuugo would mind fucking them both.

>>7595327
I felt kind of bad, Anon! I did!

But everyone on /jp/ disagreed with me.

>>7595327
>>7595681

I thought I was the only one on /jp/ who feel sorry for her...

>>7595678
But batshit yandere imoutos are the best kind. The crazier the better. Oh and you forgot how every second line she says is downright hilarious. You should play the crossover part of Nagomibako where you get more of her during the mystery investigations of the school. And more importantly for more Rin and for explaining what happened between KnS and Carta with Yura.

Benio = ojousama with foul mouth, pantyhose, BEAUTY SPOT, and an adorable cat.
Speaking of the cat one of the many problems I had with Caucasus was like how I never got attached enough to the girls before they died, and didn't see their murders happening first hand, so they didn't produce any feeling of sadness in me. HOWEVER Benio was different. Not because she got so many more scenes before her death (I'd estimate it to be the same as the others), but because whenever she died I always felt awful when her cat was by her corpse meowing sadly for his master to weak up. ;_;

>>7595857
>ojousama with foul mouth
That's only OK in my book if she succumbs to the protagonist's charm and becomes all deredere on the bed. Tsundere afterwards is optional but welcomed.

>You should play the crossover part of Nagomibako
Following anon's infinite wisdom I've decided to tackle pp first. However, I fear for my eyes as I've been glued to the monitor for 3 or 4 days straight with KnS, Saya no Uta and Cartagra.

>for more Rin
I hope it's more story and not just Rin lusting after Shuugo. I tend to skip H scenes.

>>7595832
I sorta felt bad for her. She had a rough life and lived in poverty despite going to that fancy girl's school. Her mother was also a whore and she didn't have anyone besides Toko.

She was just a stupid teenage girl..she didn't have to get brutally murdered ;_;

>>7596272
If anyone didn't deserve to get brutally murdered it was Tojiko obviously, but that was clearly the point.

Obviously other-Toko wasn't totally blameless but I don't think she deserves all the hate either.

What I hate about this VN is that even when someone could totally have been saved i.e. Orihime, other-Toko they die anyway.

Tojiko's death is like the only one that would have been legitimately unavoidable given the right choices.

Also if you look at it from a certain perspective Reiji's life isn't really that different from a month ago. Yukari's the one who got the worst of it given that all her friends plus her entire art club were killed. Reiji on the other hand just goes back to his ordinary peaceful life now that he's finally caught his wife's killer.

"Rokushiki Makoto" is a evil-as-fuck sounding name.

If you ask me this was too good for this fucking bitch. She was an annoying cunt since the beginning but after what she did to Toko I wanted to beat her to death every time she fucking showed up (during replays). First she steals her medicine and then she watches her stumble into the street? ALL MY FUCKING RAGE

Also, fuck this fucking piece of shit game. I knew from the beginning the body count was going to be high and probably going to include some characters I was acquainted with but I just wanted Toko and Yukari to be ok. I went through the entire fucking walkthrough and watched Toko die four fucking times but still continued in hopes that she would be ok in the true end? And what the fuck do I get? Fuck this game. Fuck Cartagra, I don't care anymore if that shit ever comes out. Fuck innocent Grey. Yes, I'm mad as fuck.

The tomboy was my favorite.
I hope she will be in the sequel.

>>7596615
I think the visual novel did its job if you're feeling those sorts of emotions.

I don't really like swinging the death sentence around on people. She made a mistake, and stealing Toko's medicine which resulted in her getting hit by a truck probably affected her a million times more than it affected you, seeing how dependent she was on her.

>>7596631

The bitch was a just fucking pathetic cunt that wanted to take her place. The deepest circle of hell is reserved for traitors.

>>7596631

>seeing how dependent she was on her

If she was so dependent on her the bitch shouldn't have stole her shit, which even a blind man can is medicine, and watched her stumble out into the street without doing anything. Fucking cunt, I swear.

>>7596718
She thought it was heroin or something.

Given Reiji's sketchy-as-fuck appearance I can totally see her drawing that conclusion. If he wasn't the main character I would have pegged him for the killer.

>>7596731

What kind of heroin comes in a little brown bottle like this? And she even admits after walking out of the hospital that she couldn't call out to Toko before she got hit because she stole her "medicine". The cunt knew what it was.

>Given Reiji's sketchy-as-fuck appearance I can totally see her drawing that conclusion.
>Near the end of the game

You're as delusional as that cunt was.

>>7596761

I'm not him, but Reiji definitely was sketchy. Basically he spends 70% of his time loitering like a creep by himself and flirting with underage school girls in different spots in town. He'd be arrested in real-life.

Additionally when Toko initially took the medicine out of the bag she implied she thought it was something bad. I'm assuming the reason she calls it "medicine" later is because she realizes it after seeing what happened to real Toko.

>>7596631
Actually, I think it affected her less. She was stuck in her own world where she's never at fault. Did you read how she reacted when she realized it? Hardly any self-blame at all.

>>7596787
>real Toko
>Mizuhara Toko isn't a real Toko

Sounds about right.

>>7596804
She snapped.

>>7596811
It's true. How do we even know that's her real name?

>>7596821

She was never right to begin with. Toko should have just told that annoying bitch to fuck off.

>>7596826
Official page. 透子.

>>7596821
Regardless, she probably would have recovered very quickly. Most likely she would start thinking Toko's better the way she is because she would have to depend on her.

>>7596839
Real-Toko was very lonely, and Issues-Toko was there for her before Reiji was.

>>7596841
What's that say?

>>7596857

Toko said she was lonely when Reiji met her, she said he was the only one who understood her. The only thing fake bitch did was gratify her own pathetic needs by clinging to Toko and trying to become like her.

So I heard this MG version brings up uncensored cg illustration from the original game.

Is there any cg patch ripped from this version compatible and playable with the original Japanese version?

Anyone do their first play without a walkthrough? How far did you guys get? I got killed along with Orihime. I didn't even get to have sex with her, I think that's about as bad as it gets.

>>7596857
Toko.

>>7596907
I got killed with Orihime without having sex with her. I'd imagine most people either die there (Didn't guess to look at Yui's handwriting), or right after where Yukari gets frozen because you didn't find the scrap of paper in Orihime's skirt

>>7596907
I got the true end on my first playthrough without using a walkthrough.
It wasn't hard.

>>7596907
I got killed with Orihime without having sex with her. I'd imagine most people either die there (Didn't guess to look at Yui's handwriting), or right after where Yukari gets frozen because you didn't find the scrap of paper in Orihime's skirt

>>7596922

>right after where Yukari gets frozen because you didn't find the scrap of paper in Orihime's skirt

That shit happened to me WITH a fucking walkthrough. They should have fucking clarified that you have to look in the skirt pocket. I just clicked the skirt twice and moved one. Fuck.

>>7596907
I got stuck at the Yukari bad end since I never found the notebook piece.

>>7596873

Agreeing with this, though it doesn't mean real-toko and fake-toko weren't still close. They were.

It's just she saw Reiji as a "provider" and I'm sure his presence gave her a feeling of protection simply because he was older, wise, and not to mention she became attracted to him.

I suppose those feelings allowed for a "closeness" that real-toko couldn't have for fake-toko. She did care about her though.

Even if she's a psychotic yandere bitch, her name is still Toko. No reason to call her fake.

>>7596968

Well it mainly stems from that fact that we're all too lazy to remember her other name, and most people don't like her.

So the next game is going to be about Shinji killing people to rebuild Touko? First the kill her off and now they're going to dance on her grave? I'll pass.

>>7597030
That's a pretty huge assumption to make based on one preview image.

>>7597051

No, it's based on going through the entire walkthrough and getting all the endings.

>>7597092

yeah

>>7597078

You mean the endings on the 1st game?

Anyone have the full size version of this? I didn't save it from the last thread.

>>7597030
It's just going to be more shells and dismemberment and Reiji being manifestly unhelpful/amnesiac towards whoever you end up playing as.

Please let it be assistant kouhai

>>7596933
>That shit happened to me WITH a fucking walkthrough. They should have fucking clarified
>　Skirt x2, find scrap of something
Can't you read or something?
>>7597030
How delusional can you get? KnS2 will be likely as related to KnS1 as Cartagra was to it, ie not much. I see 0% chance of stuff like that being included. It's just symbolic banner, you should hold your horses with these delusions.
To begin with, apart of Pianissimo none of the Innogrey games have supernatural shit such as making cyborgs.

>>7597401
Well it's still "Kara no Shoujo" so limbless girls in shells will probably still be a major theme.

It would be nice if the murders aren't exactly the same as in KnS 1 though.

>>7597416
Tokyo is going to run out of high school girls at this rate.

>>7597401

>Can't you read or something?

You have to click the skirt pocket you retard. If you just click the skirt x2 you don't get the scrap. Learn to reading comprehension.

>>7597401

>KnS2 will be likely as related to KnS1 as Cartagra was to it

Except KnS wasn't a fucking sequel to Cartagra. It plainly said "shares characters". KnS 2 is a sequel, although you may be too retarded to understand what that means. And if you had read through all of it, which I doubt you did since you sound like a kidt that just wondered in from /v/, Shinji wasn't caught and in one of the ends he goes on to kill in order to resurrect Toko. And I don't think you even understand what "delusional" even means. Fuck off to whatever hole you came from.

>>7597401
>apart of Pianissimo none of the Innogrey games have supernatural shit such as making cyborgs.
What? Making cyborgs in 1936? Now I can't really take it seriously...

And even if it's accessory, Cartagra also has a supernatural factor. Mind reading.

I wish the walkthrough had the requirements for a given ending or choice listed. I got stuck forever trying to get to investigate Toko's past end cause I wasn't following the walkthrough word-for-word and missed the locket.

>>7597543
There is the flag guide if you're interested but it's not so easy to use.

http://g-seeker.net/game/k/kara_flag.html

>>7597030
You have a point since:
- Preview image says it all
- In the true end, Toko's amputated body actually vanished -- more like they didn't know what happened to Toko and Shinji in the end.

If they happen torture Toko more, I'll burn their office.

>>7597471
I played everything from Innogrey my friend. I'm sure your assumptions won't have anything to do with the game.
>Except KnS wasn't a fucking sequel to Cartagra
KnS2 is a temporary name. Regardless what the end title will be, the game itself will likely have as much to do with KnS1 as Carta did. You are lunatic if you expect it to present whatever else you want to happen with your spoiler. The cases are closed. You may not like the way it ended, but I'm sure as hell they won't beat the dead horse with this for another game.
>And if you had read through all of it, which I doubt
I played it twice (heck it's one of my all time favorite games), more than a year ago at first, and recently in English.
I know very well what "delusional" means. Seeing someone making up some utter bullshit after seeing that banner would be a situation I'd use it firstmost.
>>7597479
It's even worse: A gun made by the genius loli which drives people mad and the Japanese army wants to use it against their enemies during the upcoming world war. It's just silly stuff.

>>7597811
>KnS2 is a temporary name. Regardless what the end title will be, the game itself will likely have as much to do with KnS1 as Carta did.
If that is true then that's a relief.

I'm about to start reading this, let's do it.

>>7598322
Good luck Anon :).

>>7597811
>It's even worse...
Oh my~

After all the raging and finally getting around to finishing the game, it wasn't as upsetting as I thought it would be. I raged that they didn't get good closure on Shinji and frankly what the fuck, you can't catch a psycho carrying around a fucking giant egg? And he just leaves it to some retard kid? SMH. But at least to me Toko before the accident could only have been happy with a Reiji end, but with psycho Toko stalking around it would have been ridiculously difficult. Ending 1 where she lives as a cripple frankly doesn't do it for me anymore than the other endings, and at least I felt some closure with true end, save for Shinji not getting his ass capped.

The game was certainly better than I thought it would be.

>>7598476
At least you bust Makoto. He's the real villain.

The entire VN is like Persona 4 only less fluffy.

>>7597811

>The cases are closed.
>Shinji escapes with Toko
>closed

Are. You. Fucking. Retarded?

>I played it twice

What a surprise. Ann idiot talking shit without even knowing what he's talking about. YOU'RE A FUCKING GENIUS!

>Seeing someone making up some utter bullshit
>guessing at what the next game might be about
>delusional

WOW! IT'S LIKE YOU'RE REALLY 12 YEARS OLD! Go kill yourself, no seriously. I feel I've lost brain cells just arguing with you. The world would be a better place.

>>7597811

>KnS2 is a temporary name.

Except it's not you stupid fuck. It's the actual name, it's a sequel, and the heroine of the KnS is on the cover. Here's a definition for sequel, kiddie

>A sequel is a narrative, documental, or other work of literature, film, theatre, or music that continues the story of or expands upon issues presented in some previous work.

>>7597271

Anyone? Please?

>>7597811

>KnS2 is a temporary name.

Except it's not you stupid fuck. Even if they change the name, it's still a sequel, and the heroine of the KnS is on the cover. Here's a definition for sequel, kiddie

>A sequel is a narrative, documental, or other work of literature, film, theatre, or music that continues the story of or expands upon issues presented in some previous work.

>>7597811

>KnS2 is a temporary name.

Except it's not you stupid fuck. Even if they change the name, it's still a sequel, and the heroine of the KnS is on the cover. Here's a definition for sequel, kiddie

>A sequel is a narrative, documental, or other work of literature, film, theatre, or music that continues the story of or expands upon issues presented in some previous work.

>>7597811
Shit, I almost read all that spoiler text.

Qwon?

>>7598667
>KnS2 is a temporary name.
>Except it's not you stupid fuck. Even if they change the name, it's still a sequel, and the heroine of the KnS is on the cover.

Okay, you have a point when you pointed out Toko on the cover -- I don't know who to believe anymore.

I think I'll just wait for updates from Innocent Grey.

>>7598737

>I don't know who to believe anymore.

I'll help you out since the other other dense retard is too stupid to add 2+2

1. In the True ending Shinji gets away with Toko. He's never caught.
2. In one of the other endings, Shinji proceeds to start killing people for body parts so he resurrect Toko, like the teacher was doing for Yui.
3. The game is called KARA NO SHOUJO 2, it's a fucking sequel
4. Toko is on the cover

I don't know if the entire game will focus on it, but anyone with more than 3 brain cells can see that part of it will focus on closing the shinji case.

>>7598775
>I don't know if the entire game will focus on it, but anyone with more than 3 brain cells can see that part of it will focus on closing the shinji case.
That could be possible.
By the way, for the people who read Cartagra; was Reiji mentioned in Cartagra?

>>7598577
No, but seeing your posts and arguments (being generous calling them as such) I'd guess you are. You made about as much sense.

>>7599490
Negative.

>>7599632

>I'm too retarded to come up with any type of argument or counter argument

What a surprise. Not like you had any in the beginning except HURR I'M SURE THEY WILL BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE I'M A RETARD THAT'S TOO STUPID TO ADD 2+2. What the hell are you doing playing detective type games anyway? You can't even figure out what the next game will be about when the clues are thrown right in your face. And "cases are closed"? Seriously? Either you didn't read the fucking novel, didn't pay attention, or you're just completely retarded. I'll pick all of the above.

Other than the Innocent Grey titles and the usual Higurashi/Umineko, is there any detective type VNs to look for?

Enjoy some music faggots.
Links on pastebin/DddvsvE7
I wonder what landmine I stepped on.
Why cant i post it.

>>7600775
Tsukutori, I liked it better than Kara no Shoujo and Cartagra .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5B-Y4ox1fY

The art is pretty bad though.

WHO WAS PERSONALITY DISORDER!?

>>7601082
Did anyone in KnS actually have dissociative identity disorder?

- Psychosis would probably be Kusaka
- Trauma would be Shinji?
- Aplastic anemia would be Toko
- Paranoid personality disorder would be Shinzo I guess
- Gullaim-Barre Syndrome would be Celes

I guess fake-Toko probably makes the most sense for DID?

>>7596983

Just say Kuchiki. It's easier to keep track of them that way.

>>7601188
M. Toko turned herself into Toko in one of the bad ends, she's crazy.

>>7600751
No, I realized there'd be no use arguing with a child like you. Neither of us will convince the others, so what's the bloody point? Nothing. Then just go ahead and keep clinging to whatever you want to.

>>7601256

>arguing
>hasn't made any type of valid argument at all

cool story kiddo

>>7601232

I'd say fake Toko

>>7601232

I'd rather say fake Toko

>>7600751
No, I realized there'd be no use arguing with a child like you. Neither of us will convince the other, so what's the bloody point? Nothing. Then just go ahead and keep clinging to whatever you want to.
Also you should stop misusing the quote feature.

>>7601270

>arguing
>hasn't made any type of valid argument at all

cool story kiddo

>Neither of us will convince the other

trying to convince you would be akin to teaching a monkey English, so I guess you got that part right.

>>7601270

>arguing
>hasn't made any type of valid argument at all

cool story kiddo

>Neither of us will convince the other

trying to convince you would be akin to teaching a monkey English, so I guess you got that part right.

>Then just go ahead and keep clinging to whatever you want to.

The irony here is that you're clinging to your own delusional fantasy when the facts are right in your face.

>>7601269

I don't like the other Toko either, it's mostly to keep them straight.

And to remember Kuchiki's name, because she's awesome.

No wonder she latched on to Toko, no one loves her.

>>7601542

For good reason

;_;

>>7601550
She wouldn't have gone yandere if you had shown her some love.

>>7601610

If wasn't such an annoying, self-centered cunt maybe I would have shown her some love

>>7601553
canv.as

>>7601738

LULZ SO RANDUM XD

>>7601728

crazy ass bitch

>>7601779
Don't forget creepy stalker diary

Guys, I was following the walkthrough on the TLWiki to the letter, but the evidence selection on March 17 never comes up and it goes straight to the person selection. It eventually gives me the "not enough for an evidence" crap and goes to the kidnapping of Shugo's wife.

What do?

>>7602006
Did you miss the notebook scrap in Orihime's skirt pocket?

>>7602006

Improvise.

>>7602015
Oh fuck, I think I have. Let me redo that bit.

>>7602006
>>7602021

Just keep going bro, you'll be fine.

>>7602023
Lol, I did keep going but finished with bad ends.

>>7602023
if you don't identify Kusaka before he kidnaps Kazuna, you don't get to investigate him in advance and she ends up dying. Then no matter what he'll kidnap Yukari and you'll get a bad end.

>>7602164

but yukari lives, you live, and shugo lives ... unless you kill him of course

It just happened so, that I started to watch anime mouryou no hako and it looks so much alike with kara no shoujo. I mean, kara no shoujo actually spoiled me the whole anime - even some scenes are exactly the same. Hell, just look at it! http://www.animescentral.com/apps/videos/videos/show/11618720-mouryou-no-hako-episode-1
It was just the first 5 minutes and it's already seems like anime version of KnS!
The first scene in anime at the train is like one of the last scenes from kns, there are also 2 girls, one of them follows another and talks about how beatiful her friend and she_is_me_shit. The murderer is also a scriptwriter, there is also limbs amputation(but instead of black cloth there are boxes), the strange girl got hit by the train and went to the hospital and there are problems with heritance of that girl and there is a woman which is famous actress and... and.. SHITLOAD OF FUCK, IT'S SO SIMILIAR, watched only 3 episodes and I already see what will happen next. Oh.my.god. Innocent grey, how could you steal almost everything from the novel, written in 1995? And since there are few books, I suppose the first one is like Cartagra and the third one will be like KnS2, lol
sorry for my bad english

I wonder what kind of art Yukari makes

I bet she makes sculptures out of real insects like some kinda bug version of Mamiya Shinji.

She even eats them like Rokushiki Makoto does.

>>7602516
When you get to the end, you'll see they aren't similar, at all.
Moryo no hako is pretty special.

>>7602531
I'm not saying they are the same, but they have so much in common, nnnghhhh

>>7602528

In the trail she was sad because it was cold out and there weren't any bugs out for her to draw. She also enjoys drawing snails.

>>7602544
>so much in common
Suddenly Kara no Shoujo interests me.

>>7602544
When you realise teh head is alive and everything is just a game between the two immortals to spice up their endless romance it stops being KnS so much.

Oh god I just watched the OVA just to see how different it was and it was utter shit..

Tojiko is the only one who gets dismembered but somehow she doesn't die so now she's just amputee Toko 2.0.

Innocent Grey sure hates Tojiko.

>>7603121
I liked hearing the voices and BGM again.

Plus it was fappable.

>>7600775

Seconding this/

>>7603132
EVE burst error.

Oh Toko you so crazy

>>7604966
She just needs a good dicking.

>>7604966
KnS is translated?

This game wasn't bad by any means, but it was just so ... unsatisfying. At the end you're just left feeling empty. Even if they wanted to make the True end the way the did because they wanted to make a sequel, they could have at least made ONE good end for some fucking closure.

>>7606948
Erobeat

>>7607121
I don't get pll saying it didn't have good end. In one end toko is still alive right? Well sure she don't have arms and legs but its not because of murderer its because of traffic accident. And + she worked out with her mother. Man its really far FAR FAR better then any akiha's(tsukihime) end...

>>7607180

>but its not because of murderer its because of traffic accident

OH GEE, THAT'S SO MUCH BETTER! Also, they made it clear in one of the routes that the surgery only temporarily delayed her death. She dies regardless.

>>7607180

>but its not because of murderer

I disagree. It WAS basically murder.

>>7607241
...everybody died eventually...

>>7607322

You know what I meant, smartass. In one route she dies as soon as Reiji finds her. In another she dies before Shinji can even build a shell for her. In that case they just happened to get to her before she dies. She probably died not soon after they talked to her.

>>7607121

Keeping people alive does not necessarily make for a satisfying ending, though. I found the Shin going for a swim end the most satisfying, because even though a few more people die and Rokushiki might not get caught, it's one of the only ends where a killer actually comes to terms with the atrocities he has committed, and understands that the murders accomplished nothing. I could be wrong though, I think Kusaka might have doubted himself in one of the ends.

>>7607180
No good end ever because Tojiko is dead.

Unless you count OVA end where she is girl in shell forever

>>7607390

In comparison, I would to agree with you that that was, by far, the most satisfying ending. But I do wish they would have had a good ending where Toko ends up happy.

>>7607396
got the point
TOJIKO ;_;

Oh /jp/, I just ended the whole thing and it hit me pretty hard. Ugh, Toko, Tojiko ;_;
And yeah, the true end is fitting but... but... it's so sad ;_;

At least Toko died peacefully with the person she loved.

Tojiko and fake-Toko died in a dark room with a psychopath sawing at their limbs.

If it's any comfort though at least Yukari made it through. When I found out that the murders were happening at her school I was expecting her to be, like, the first victim.

>>7607529

>fake-Toko died in a dark room with a psychopath sawing at their limbs.

If it were up to me she would have got it so much worse. Fucking whore.

>>7607487
>>7607516

I played through the trailer and even though it was a single scene, I loved Yui's character. She was kind of like Tojiko, except better. Yui ;_;

>>7607569
Is there an English version of said trial? I know Mangagamer has their own trial but I think that's just a short segment of the actual game.

>>7607610

Nah, I just used AGTH and Atlas. It's short as fuck anyway and if you've played a few VNs you can basically understand what the characters are saying. Although someone really should translate it. It wouldn't take more than a day.

>>7607623
It's already translated (rough first pass only). We translated it way back rushing it to be done for last year's AX, hoping they'll announce it there and then and putting the trial up, but we stopped working on it when they said they can't do that so soon.
It can't be released on its original engine and it costs money to port it.

>>7608653

What the fuck you guys talking about? It's been out.

>>7608718
The japanese trial with about 95+% exclusive content not found in the main game. See the Opening post for what it's about.

>>7607396

You fuckin' right Anon...

>>7608653

So is there a patch up anywhere or translated scripts?

>>7608653

>It can't be released on its original engine and it costs money to port it.

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about an official release?

This may have been the most fucked up part of the game.

Pros:
- looks nice
- fairly well localized
- protagonist is a grown-up and acts in a mostly non-retarded fashion
- does a fairly good job of pretending to be an investigation game instead of a linear VN, at least for the first third
- didn't try to force me to sympathize with unsympathetic characters

Cons:
- the h scenes seem completely pointless
- assumes you actually give a shit about Toko Prime (the only route is the Toko route)
- the interactive investigation scenes were a great idea that wasn't used very well
- getting a decent ending is so anal about your choices that it practically forces you to use a walkthrough, there's almost no opportunities to pick what you want instead of what the game demands from you

>>7609318
As I said can't be released. They aren't uploaded anywhere.
>>7609372
I'm not sure what you are not sure what I mean? I was talking about the official Japanese trial as I said already.
>Japanese trial summary and CG: starts from >>7568596
MG can't release it officially due to there's no money to port it to krkr (or at least probably thought/think it's not worth it more like) and the original engine is no-go.

>>7609788
Yeah Yaginuma is the best in both games.

>>7609894

How about an unofficial release?

I was disappointed by the mystery.
It was too obvious.

>>7609904
I can't really bring myself to like him. Not after his persuasion techniques in the Takako end.

>>7610011

He was a spineless bastard who let his sister take his place under the guillotine and then grew up to be an arrogant cock sucking prick. How can anyone like him?

>>7610267
How could you not like him? He acts like a dick but he helped save Toko when it mattered.

>>7610320
>How could you not like him? He acts like a dick

You answered your own question.

I will seriously like a mass murderer as long as they're not dicks about it. I cannot forgive a dick.

>>7610320

>he helped save Toko when it mattered.

Eh, he kind of helped. But he only helped because he wanted to solve the case for his own glory and wasn't getting anywhere on his own. He was cracking jokes when Tojiko disappeared saying it would be a part of his case if she ended up dead. He's a giant faggot and I hate him.

>>7610337

Coincidentally, I liked Shinji alot more than I liked that faggot Yaginuma.

>>7590102
Yaginuma: drinks the wakame sake (when one drinks sake from the crotch area of a girl's crotch after pouring it there) of prostitutes, fucks said prostitutes, doesn't give any shit when they are brutally murdered the next day, makes you mad at every opportunity, and saves your sorry ass when you really ran out of options.
He's A-OK in my book.

Would one of you fine sirs be so kind as to upload the translation files?

>>7610320
>he helped save Toko
He didn't do that to help her, helping her was just a consequence. He did that to nab the glory for solving the case and get some more distinctions.

>>7610479
You're right on everything but you forgot that he wouldn't mind torturing you to madness in order to force a confession out of your just based on your being her some girl's boyfriend.

You fucked some girl and she turned up dead? You'd pick up a knife and cut your veins because if Ryouichi gets ahold of your miserable ass you'd wish that you weren't born. Of course, this is unless you enjoy things like having you balls and other body parts burned with cigarretes, being starved in a cold and filthy cell where the only food source you have are maggots and other insects crawling around the shit bucket, being beaten into unconscious just to have cold water splashed so you can continue suffering consciously, among other very fun activities to enjoy under police custody!

>>7611085

What the fuck makes you think he would do all that?

Autosage.

>>7611182
Because he did all that shit.

>>7611305

When/where? I don't remember from game.

>>7611308
1951, February 18th onwards. Ueno police station.

Cartagra Takako route.

>>7611305
>293th post.
>autosage
Learn to count.

>>7611085
But those are the best parts.

>>7607180

>>7612987
He's blown hundreds of dollars to make the faggiest builds possible, he uses silly bullshit like obscuring his health bar and painting his builds so that no one can see the parts he uses(as if the builds aren't know to everyone who can just go spectate a cbjp crown game), and he alt-f4's from a match if he should start losing.

>>7614290
While that does sound like something Yaginuma might do I don't see how that's relevant.

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>>7614719