/jp/ - Otaku Culture

You forgot Game : http://www.mangagamer.com/r18/Titles/Details/359B59DA-2B1C-4FD1-8574-58C8343CF220/kara-no-shoujo

>>7568771
Off to a good start here

>>7568771
I wasn't gonna touch that one after what happened in the last thread.

Anyway, more Touko.

Baby's first VN.

>>7568788
Any parent who lets their baby read this is beyond irresponsible.

Tasty imouto flavor.

>>7568788
lol if that were remotely true there wouldn't be a dozen people in the last thread going FUCK HOW DO I FIND xxxx IN THE INVESTIGATION GOD THIS IS TOO HARD FUCKING EROGE DEVS

bet you'd say the same thing about Muramasa

Should probably add the awesome demo movie. http://mirror-aaa.fuzzy2.net/egg/modules/mymirrors/viewcat.php?op=&cid=2855

sage

Okay, I've used all three patches, but I'm having problems at a very late stage in the game.

In the investigation scene where you are investigating Akazaki Nene's corpse the walkthrough says that you're supposed to investigate the back of her neck in order to proceed. But the game won't let me click there. No matter what I do, I'm just stuck on that investigation scene and it's impossible to proceed. Anyone else experienced this issue?

ITT: people using REAL DEAL non ironically and with positive connotations, people thinking it's a deconstruction of eroge, people being happy that girls die, otherwise this would be a bad disney eroge.

Fuck off.

>>7568886
It's not a bug, the spot you have to click is just awkwardly placed.

Try around here.

>>7568907
Good lord, that's rather nitpicky. At any rate, you're a champ, Anon. Thanks for your help.

sage for non-/jp/ material

From now on you should include a link to download the game. Preferably not to buy the game or else this thread's going to end up a shitstorm again.

>>7568960
Complain about spoonfeeding.
Complain when no link to the game is given.

I don't think it's possible to win.

>>7568970
Nobody will ever complain if you stop being such a faggot newfag that thinks not putting up torrent/DDL in a /jp/ general thread is cool and edgy.

>>7568946
>improper use of sage
>/jp/

it's like I'm really browsing /a/!

>>7568985
What are you even talking about? The guy who posted the MG link obviously did it to spark this kind of reaction.

Good christ.

>>7569010
It's not even about spoonfeeding.
It's about him thinking everybody must buy from MG or else his butt will be devastated.

>>7569021
Yes, I'm sure that was his intention.

Or maybe he actually did it just to spite you individually. Think about it.

Games came out ages ago.
Unless you are from fucking /a/ or /v/, there shouldnt be any reason why you cant find or pirate this game yourself.
Idiots that cant find this game with google deserve to buy it from MG.

>>7569061
>individually
hurrrrrrrr

People that purchase from Mangagamer make weeaboos look bad. Please stop it

The person from the last thread trying to get a certain end here.

>>7568158
How did you get the last one again? I think I had the two first ones done...

>>7569693
Did you get Stella necklace?

What happened in the last train scene?
Does that happen between the first and the second killer in March, or around the end between Shinji and a potential new killer or something else?

I find it quite lulzy that the pure and virginal girls of this game know when their "safe days" are (many of them say something like this if you cum inside).

How to fix skip function? It doesn't stop skipping even if you not read the text.Ofcourse options settings is set to "skip previously read".
And when there will be opening movie?

>>7569696
Thanks a lot, I got it now! Off to the true end, then...

>>7569846
It seems that it depends. It sometimes stops at unread lines, sometimes not. I think it's a programming bug we can do nothing about (unless you know enough to make a patch to fix it).

I hope MG will say how many sales they made. I'm curious to know how KnS did compared with Koihime.

All done, but I'm missing the last CG on page 8. How can this one be acquired?

>>7569943
Ending CG for Shugo's sister. You grab it with the true ending if you follow the walkthrough.

Just finished my first play of KnS. Did it without a walkthrough and, albeit with some difficulty, managed to get to a decent end. Though the only two characters I found myself really interested in are Yukari and Stella, and although I dedicated a ton of time to them, I got nowhere. I'll be sad if there is no imouto and gaijin H-scenes.

>>7570015
Then you can be sad.

>>7570034
Ah, well that's a let down. Why Japan, why

>>7570047
Sex is disney shit, not deep enough.

>didn't see any ddl link

http://vn-meido.com/k1/index.php?topic=1008.0

MG should do Cartagra and have people pirate it, as the story takes place before KnS.

>>7570080
MG should do everything by Innocent Grey.

>>7569844
> pure and virginal

lol wrong game, dude.

Seriously though, do any of them other than Toko even say that? And with anemia as bad as hers, menstruation would take a lot out of her, so she'd need to know her cycle pretty well.

>>7570087
I wholeheartedly agree.

Voiceless was a dissapointment but I hope this sold well.

>>7570015
Cheer up anon. Sugina Miki wants you to feel better.

>>7570113
yeah, I wonder if there's any chance the voice actor company will decide they want a share of the profits after all and strike a "sell xxxx copies for voicepatch" deal like with Koihime Musou.

>>7570114
2/3

>>7570125

Just read the true ending, are the others worth reading?

>>7570103
I don't care for pure and virginal myself - in fact, I hate deflowering scenes - just that I found that weirdly clashing. Of the other girls, at least Hatsune says this, though knowing about it could be natural considering her history.

As for cycles, the blood loss happens during the hard-to-miss actual menstruation, so I don't see why she'd need to pay special attention to her cycle (which tends to be irregular for young women anyway), or look into what days are safe and what aren't. Though it may have been that it was common knowledge for all girls back when hormonal contraceptives had yet to hit the market.

Talking of hormonals, didn't Orihime say she was using contraceptive medicine? That's a bit weird, seeing that the first hormonal contraceptives were only available in the west around the 60s, and were only approved in Japan much later. Well eh. Looking for inconsistencies in eroscenes is a perversion of mine, so don't mind me.

Question:
On the very first bad end you can get (Orihime scene), our genius MC sees the 'Black Madonna', and says 'now I understand' essentially.
However, even though the book is mentioned, you do not meet the author/killer til llater on, and he had not heard of him before hand. What teh fuck did he figure out?

>>7570254
I don't know how you could miss this one, but there are 2 murderers: first, Schisma members were killed by Kusaka for his wish to revive Yui and take revenge against those who forced her into prostitution, and second, girls killed by Shinji for his remake of Kara no Shoujo. Reiji says "so it was you all along" or something to that effect when he sees Kusaka, who was the one to murder Orihime.

>>7570270
Also, you're wrong about him "not having heard of him beforehand". In one of the very first days of the game, he witnesses schoolgirls bustling about a bookstore for Katsuragi Shin's book launch or some event to that effect. He is mentioned very early on. Not that any of this is relevant to your actual question, since he was not the one to murder Orihime to begin with.

>>7570236
Irregular doesn't mean they're all over the place, just that they sometimes come early or late, last longer, etc.; it's still possible to determine your cycle just by paying attention to when your periods usually occur, and if you know that, you also know when you're ovulating.

As for Orihime's birth control, the Enovid pill was first made widely available in the U.S. in 1957, and Margaret Sanger's birth control research started even earlier than that. Illegal and experimental version of the pill were already circulating before then.

It's not incredibly plausible that these could make their way into the hands of a teenage girl in Japan, true, but this is Tokyo; if they were available anywhere in the country, it'd be there. Furthermore, there are all those U.S. servicemen around to boot; since she was whoring, the possibility that one of them gave it to her is fairly likely I'd say.

Not that I'm trying to argue mind you. It's nice to have some discussion up in here for a change.

Just finished Ending 3 the one where it ends with Reiji and Shinji in Haruna

All my favorite girls dead in brutal methods and killer gets off with a peaceful suicide. I feel so empty

>>7570282
She's also filthy rich and whores herself / other people off

>>7570293
I know that feel, bro.

The only semi-good ending I've seen so far is 4.
And even than, it's sad.

>>7570282
Good points there regarding Orihime. Didn't Schisma also have a connection to illegal drugs? Because it could make more sense if she had acquired them through such connections.

One possibility is also a medicine of non-hormonal nature. I don't know about Japan, but many countries had natural medicines, if they can be called that, with the purpose of contraception before the modern pill came around. The effectiveness of these is a different matter altogether, of course.

As for irregularity, I hear it can be really "all over the place", though that must be uncommon; slighter irregularities like the ones you mentioned are the norm, I suppose. What I know is that it's usually worse for young women, and tends to get better with age. Ovulation can also occur at somewhat different times of the cycle for different women, which is one reason why the rhythm method isn't considered reliable anymore - though this has nothing to do with the girls perceiving the days as safe, of course.

>>7570236
Judging from KnS2 cover art, it is very plausible that we will be seeing GITS technology.
We can only hope that Toko stayed dead.

Is there a way to turn down the voice volume? It's loud as fuck and rapes my ears.

April 11th spoilers

Toko being hit by a car, is that inevitable or am I running into a bad end? Again.

>>7570368
Inevitable

>>7570368
All endings are bad endings, so don't ya worry.

>>7570271
>>7570270
Whoops, dun goofed.
Replaying over and over to get endings fucked up my recollection of events. I should just re-read it slowly some time later/

>>7570368

Just like Tojiko, no way to bring them back.

>>7570087
Nah, that's silly. Pianissimo has truly facepalm worthy story, I really don't want anyone to translate it and then people everywhere would judge the other Innogrey games based on Pianissimo impressions. The music and art is awesome and lots of hot dudes, but oh god that story.... MADGUN!

Caucasus isn't as good either. I thought it pales in every aspect compared to KnS not counting the even more breathtaking art.

>>7570462
What about Cartagra?
Being able to fuck Kazuna would be glorious.

I hope you folks liked Yaginuma! He's the biggest bastard ever, but the ending with his backstory in KnS was one of my favorites after all the stuff he did in Carta.

>>7570479
I found Carta pretty great myself, the in my opinion the atmosphere was better (more grim after ww2-y and engaging), it has a smaller but more likable cast, and Nana (Shugo's sister) is awesome. The only issue with her I thought, (but this could be more of the issue how it's missing the notepad/interactivity stuff one gets in KnS/Caucasus) that Nana is the one helping out Shugo and at times it seems she played the game already or something as she knows so much.
Also I liked Shugo's POV more than Reiji's. Art is rather different (in my opinion worse) than the stuff Sugina Miki did after that, but I'd put the BGM on about the same level.
The main route is great but it's not as overarching as KnS and not as complex. It might be more hard on the stomach too (like you are forced to eat some meat a heroine who died X time ago while as you are being delirious have delusions about how said heroine is trying to encourage to "eat me Shugo, at least this way I can be with you for forever!", but it's not like KnS was a walk in the park either with Rokushiki detailing his past when he fed her own fetus to the woman she operated for abortion.), but I guess that's highly subjective.
Moreover Carta was the first game the Takoyaki Oyaji appears, and he's damn awesome!
I prefer KnS over it, but it's great too.

Damn typos.
>*of a heroine

>>7570479
General consensus, just from reading various opinions, seems to be Kara no Shoujo > Cartagra >>> Caucasus >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pianissimo as far as the InnoGrey canon thus far.

>>7570479
General consensus, just from reading various opinions, seems to be Kara no Shoujo > Cartagra >>> Caucasus >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pianissimo as far as the InnoGrey canon thus far.

>>7570861
Hardly general consensus, that's just my own opinion.

>>7570462
Pianissimo is actually great, and the protag is voiced sometimes.

>>7570861
Both Pianissimo and Cartagra have no gameplay. Caucasus's gameplay is too much complicated and takes forever to finish the game.

>>7570348
Regarding KnS2, there will be new protag, 50 charaters total, and the story is continuing a year after true end.

Not to forget to distribute the spoiler before getting translated.

end 1 and 2 - Goddammit, why do all the best characters have to die or end up with no arms or legs - WHY WHY WHY

And can somebody explain end 4 ? That was an illusion,a memory right ?

>>7571238
Which one was 4 exactly?

>>7571245
the one which lacked the crazy first person moments of shinji and him returning to the church

How much gore is in this game?

I've been searching for some answers a bit and it appears to have quite much gore in it.
...and quite realistic gore, but without unnecessary bloodsplatters, et cetera.

I really dislike gore. Will I be able to enjoy this anyway?

>>7571375
There's a decent amount and it tends to be explained in detail. Might not be for you.

>>7571379
I only have problems with visual gore.
Having them explained in detail isn't that much of an issue.

>>7571190
>Regarding KnS2, there will be new protag
what the...
I was angry already when in the true end the protag was like "oh, ok there's a guy on the run with one of my dear female friend's head. Might as well let him go."
I thought they left the story open for the sequel... now I'm depressed.

>>7571435

This

God damn the true end was fucking depressing, I did not want that.

Hey /jp/

What do you do after a visual novel that you really liked with characters you really liked is over?

I don't really want to replay it or obsess over it, but toko's charm is leaving me somewhat infatuated and lonely

>>7571554

Most of us are. I downloaded the OST and I get a little sad every time Toko's theme plays or Ruri no Tori.

Good morning, Toko.

>>7571689
Anon, don't pick on the lonely anons. That's mean~

It seems I'm the only one who never cared about Toko and found her way too self-obsessed.
Although the ending where she survives without her limbs made me laugh.

>>7571811
There was a tier list of someone that liked Yukari and Tsuzuriko the most, and they put Toko in low-tier in the previous thread.

So you're not alone, Anon :). Usually in VNs I like the Toko-esque character though, and with this VN, it practically revolved around her + it was very tragic, so my heart strings were affected more than normal.

I looked it up! Melancholic is the word. Not really lonely or sad, it just kind of feels like I'm missing something?

>>7571190
>Pianissimo is actually great, and the protag is voiced sometimes.
I played it too, and no I can't call anything as "great" with such a bad story. The loli's scenario was frustrating me so much, and the whole deal with the gun was awful in my opinion, then the silly gangrape of the bigtits heroine completely randomly. Just simply no.
>Regarding KnS2
Sorry but, source?

Well, i just finished the True end which wasn't that different from end 4 and holy fuck, that was depressing poor Toko will never be seen alive again and MC is left FOREVER ALONE ;_;

And what is this that i hear about KnS2 ? New protag ? wtf ? what's the new setting ?

>>7571554
I feel empty for a few days and obsess over it. Then I get over it and then I forget all character's names.

I'll never forget Toko though.

Is there a tag for these kind of picture?
I swear I seen similar pose with similar background of this before.

>>7572665
Is it just me, or is Toko drawn horribly in this picture? It doesn't actually look like Toko to me.

>>7572665

Under the moon, loli to issho.

>>7572665

Sabishii.....sensei....

;_;

>>7572724
Hearing that depressed me every time I skipped past that scene when getting all the endings.

>>7572724

God damn it ;_;

>>7572738

I also had to skip this scene while going for the endings. It is just too much for me.

>>7572724
>>7572738
Toko voice is great and all but by that time, I already used up all emotions for Yukari frozen death and Tojiko death.
The true end isnt really that sad compare to the one where you find her in the shell saying arigatou.

>>7572749

The shell ending was the last ending I got. There are no good ends for Toko. Pretty sad.

>>7572749
Forgot to say that innocent grey really stick to their gun.

Since I got the egg end first I thought you can save her for sure to get the true end. Good thing they stick with it, game would lose some impact with a fairy tale like ending.

Reported for /v/ shit.

>>7572766

After I got all the endings except the true I was begging for the true ending to be one where you save Toko, especially after trying and finding no way to save Orihime, Tojiko (espeically) and Mizuhara.

I ended up staring at the starting screen listening to the music for a good 20 minutes after I got the true ending before it finally set in that There are no good ends, and any good in the ends has been overshadowed by all the character deaths

;_;

It's all right, Anon. Reiji fulfilled her request by learning who she was and Toko finished the painting that she was doing. The two had also loved each other very much. She died happily aside from the part where she got run over

Just finished the true end.
Seriously? I wanted my Toko good end, the only that is a tiny bit good with her she has her limbs chopped off
Also being able to save Kazuna and not Tojiko is not good
Also possible AyumuxReiji later on, I liked her

>>7572954
I can't see Toko being satisfied with life as an amputee. Maybe if she had her drawing arm at least.

>>7572970
Yeah, not to mention it goes against her freedom at all, she's probably happier dead
Still, Tojiko's death was uncalled for, especially so gruesome.

It's all right, Anon. Reiji fulfilled her request by learning who she was and Toko finished the painting that she was doing. The two had also loved each other very much. She died happily aside from the part where she got run over
>> Anonymous 07/04/11(Mon)20:46 No.7572954
Just finished the true end.
Seriously? I wanted my Toko good end, the only that is a tiny bit good with her she has her limbs chopped off
Also being able to save Kazuna and not Tojiko is not good
Also possible AyumuxReiji later on, I liked her
>> Anonymous 07/04/11(Mon)20:51 No.7572970
>>7572954
I can't see Toko being satisfied with life as an amputee. Maybe if she had her drawing arm at least.
>> Anonymous 07/04/11(Mon)20:53 No.7572978
>>7572970
Yeah, not to mention it goes against her freedom at all, she's probably happier dead
Still, Tojiko's death was uncalled for, especially so gruesome.

>Fixed that black bar shit for you guys.

>>7573005

Reported. If you don't like KnS threads then don't post in them you autistic fuck.

>>7573005
Anon~ That's kind of uncalled for. There are people here that haven't finished the game. I'd hate to spoil it for them.

So many babbies in this thread.

>>7573053
>>7573053
Not him but anyone that still havent finish the game deserved to be spoiled.
I mean what the fuck are you guys doing on the internet and this thread especially when you havent finish the game yet? I dont see how reading black bars can be fun.
It is only 12hours long!

>>7573153
It's courtesy.

If you really hate the black bars that much, just press Control+A

>>7573163
I dont hate black bars.
I mean people that havent finish playing the game reading through posts with nothing but blackbars.
Why would you do that? Huge M?
Deserved to be spoiled. If the game isnt engrossing enough to keep their attention for 12hours that they wander around 4chan this thread especially, they either dont like the game or they have short attention span.

>>7573232
Here's a scenario

Friendly /jp/ anon is at work, browsing /jp/. They haven't finished Kara no Shoujo.

Suddenly, there's a Kara no Shoujo thread. They don't enter it because fear of spoilers.

Suddenly, some asshole bumps up a spoiler and they get spoiled.

It's like, it's harmless to spoiler your things, and it can only hurt to not spoiler your things in this context. So why would you not spoiler them?

Saying someone "deserves to be spoiled for not finishing a 12 hour game and are on the internet" is a bad argument. It's like saying Crazy Toko deserved to die for throwing away Toko's amupole/needle. While she certainly had it coming, I wouldn't say she deserved to die for it.

>>7573260
No, she definitely did.

>>7573260
She definitely deserved it.
When I found out that her mom disposed of her corpse I was like fuck yeah serve you right.

>Friendly /jp/ anon is at work
>/jp/ anon
>at work
They are mutually exclusive.

>>7573271
That's an incredibly jaded view you have there, Anon. Perhaps it's because you're used to people dying, or perhaps it's because it's in a Visual novel where literally everyone dies

>>7573292

No no, she seriously did.

However I found it in my heart to forgive her whilst she allowed me to enter because she thought that is what the other Toko would do.

>>7573292
>>7573409

enter her*

Excuse the typo.

Does anyone know what year the events in Cartagra take place?

>>7574022
1951

So wait, is this translated or what?

>>7571965
TG issue.

>>7572376
It's supposed to be released in 2012 and the story will also be related to Cartagra.

I would get a job if it meant I could work together with Stella.

So, after that true end


He names the baby Tojiko...right?

>>7574628
I am with you.
YUKARIN/TOJIKO > Long hair Toko > shit > Toko wannabe

>>7574628

it had to be Misa

The only name that has meaning to him that wouldn't bring back memories of ;_;

Anyone got a good image of Kara no Shoujo's painting?

>>7574628
Eitehr Ruri (azure, just like the bird, also a female name) or Toko
I prefer Ruri personally.

>>7574876

>>7574893
Wow! There is a KnS artbook?

>>7574900
Yes, but that particular image is from Nuregarasu. Here you go. http://oreno.imouto.org/pool/show/1607 As for the KnS artbook I don't think it has been fully scanned. I hope Kara no Shoujo sells well enough to get hardcopies. Maybe to compensate for the loss of voices they can bundle them with the artbook.

>>7574906
>http://oreno.imouto.org/pool/show/1607
Marvelous!

I skimmed over this thread and found >>7569838 unanswered. I have questions regarding that scene as well.

Who are the people in the scene?
I assume the man holding "Kara no Shoujo" is Mamiya Shinji, while the "Kara no Shoujo" is Toko. But who is the boy? What was that bit about his mother? Where is Misa?

Is the gallery unlocked only after the true end? I got 2 bad ends and a "normal" bad end where both Mamiya die and Toko wakes up in the hospital

>>7574951
It's unlocked after end 3.
Check the walkthrough.

How do you adjust the resolution?
I was dragging the window and the automatic resize of windows7 fucked up my resolution.

>>7574944
It's a scene (presumably the ending) from Shinji's book.

>>7574944


There's a reason the scene is shown after you find out the original Kara no Shoujo disappeared from the hospital.
R. murase is the man holding the original Kara no Shoujo. The boy is Shinji.

>>7575003
Wait, what?

>>7575003
wtfamireading.jpg

>>7575003
Not him but I believe that the kara no shoujo is the original one ie Toko's mom.

>>7575094
So Shinji see her, but when?

>>7575094
That can't be right. I think that it was Shinji carrying Toko. For whatever reason, he had his fill of being crazy, and passed Toko onto a kid who will likely have a large role in KnS 2.

>>7575094
But Toko's mom never left Shinzo's atelier.
Or that scene never happened in reality and was just his idea of a good ending.

>>7575111
I thought the same thing

>>7575101
>>7575111
I interpreted it differently.

Shinji train of thought is probably like "I have my own Toko masterpiece. You can have this instead little boy." This little boy will end up being KnS2 new villain or killer #1 ala like Kusaka while Shinji will be the final boss.

But who knows, just wait for KnS2. It is only like 6months away. Hopefully KnS sell well so that MG will pick up KnS2 straight away.

>>7575115
They should release Cartagra too, it's translated and all.
they should have released it first too, by the way.

>>7575118
Kind of a bummer that Cartagra is spoiled for all of us knowing who is the real killer by playing KnS2.

>>7575118
Kind of a bummer that Cartagra is spoiled for all of us knowing who is the real killer by playing KnS first.

>>7575113
Same if that kid plays a role in KnS2, i hope he will be an evil genius and not just a random insane killer. And from what i assume to be the KnS2 box art, i take it that Toko is alive or something. She has doll boy parts in it.

>>7575178
Would you consider Rokushiki Makoto to be an evil genius?

>>7575183
Kinda. He is very intelligent and has that mysterious dark aura around him. He is certainly not the average criminal. And the true identity of Makoto hit me hard. I consider the doc to be a nice, friendly guy

>>7575191
*considered.

>>7575201
He seemed fishy to me from the start. I think it was his hairstyle combined with his kindly old man looks. The fact that he kept on trying to give me drugs also put me on alert. Now, I wasn't expecting asshole doctor (forgot his name) to be a bad guy. To me, he just screamed "red herring", but it's nice to see how it was subverted.

>>7575216
I got a bad vibe from him when I found out that he was a doctor for both Kusaka and Shin. I knew he was a faggot when I found that he was the guy that called Murase out. Nene was just used by him. Bet that faggot informed Shinji and ask him to kidnap Toko.

>>7575237
>Bet that faggot informed Shinji and ask him to kidnap Toko.

Not trolling enough to be his handiwork
He's the one who told shinji to come to the hospital, yes, but he timed it just right so that it would play out like it did.

>>7575237
What makes you say that Nene was being used by him? I think that if that was the case, Murase would be aware of that and would narc on him when he got arrested.

In an unrelated note, did anyone else get really pissed off whenever they saw his face while ctrl-ing through to get to the good ending? I just wanted to punch that goddamn smile off his face the whole time. I guess that's one sign of good writing on Innogrey's part

>>7575293
>Don't shoot him
Saved. Shot him. Reloaded. Shot him again Reloaded.

>>7575293
As in he saw through what Murase and Nene are trying to do and hijack their plan by informing Shinji. It is not a coincidence that the killing bear a huge resemblance to what he did 6years ago and they are both his patients.
He is after all a genius.

what is the problem with Caucasus gameplay that makes it so horrible?
I've read Cartagra and KnS and I was kinda interested in reading it too.

>>7575555
No, the problem isn't that it's like an adventure game with so many options in its interface. But the issue is that the time is going forward in real time so you can't freely do what you want and inspect what you want or ask everyone about everything. It mercilessly limits your options and it's very easy that you run out of it if you don't know what to do (and that you will). Also despite having the notebook there too, it's not used on anything, and never once comes up.
Then again one can just weasel it out by using a walkthrough after giving up.

The problems I had with it which makes it pale in comparison to KnS in my opinion were other things.

My impression of the game

Pretty decent and worth the read, the artwork is also superb. However, not banging the imouto and blond was a HUUUGE disappointment.

>>7575814
Not being able to do Stella was a little disappointing, but Reiji's relation wih his sister was far from the kind that's likely to cause incest. Besides, incest was given a pretty thourough and realistic treatment in the story, so it would be strange for there to be some flippant, forced incest scene.

>>7575855
Seriously, after seeing how Makoto and Misa and Chizuru and Fukuya ended up, incest is wrong in the 50s.

I just finished it, but I still have a few questions about things which didn't seem fully explained:
Did Kusaka kill Yui or was it someone else? Was it by accident?
Did Rokushiki Makoto give the "Kara no Shoujo" (made from Misa) to some boy on a train? Was this done before he was apprehended?

>>7575814
>>7575855
I don't mind not being able to fuck Stella, but I'd have liked it a lot if MC spent more time with her. I fell in love with her the first time I heard her speak.

>>7575863

terrible examples.

One pair couldn't have children and the other couldn't have children by force. Miscarriage my ass, the old bastard made her infertile on purpose as "punishment"

Dropped it at Fuck/don't fuck Touko choice.
"we're the same, lol" I don't remember MC being pretentiously deep bitch. And then he apparently fell in love with her for no reason.
The game wasn't that bad until this point, but with such main heroine I won't be able to stand it.
Dead waifu sex was stupid too.

>>7575896

If that's the case, you really should continue with the story. You'll enjoy how it ends out.

>>7575896
Good thing you dropped it. If you are capable of dropping it for something silly like this, then it's better if you never even play it further.

>>7575814
What the fuck, a VN that actually has a pretty good, intricate story, and your problem with it is that you cannot bone a certain character? Faggot.

>>7575896
The actual answer to her question is a rather practical one about her past, despite it seeming rather philosophical.

Even though there were no signs of it happen, I can't help but feel uncomfortable with Makoto taking care of Stella. The thought of him violating Stella just angers me.

>>7575916
I felt the same way.

I would have been perfectly happy if this VN didn't have any sex scenes in it at all. In fact, I'd probably like it even more seeing as I could tell more people to read it.

>>7575883
I think for your first question, Kusaka killed Yui on accident, and then decided to remake her body because he considered her "still alive".

>>7575919
He seemed kind enough, but if we keep in mind that he was a delusional religious person who snapped when he was asked to perform an abortion, because he realized he took 2 contradictory oaths(that of a doctor and that of his religion). I wish that the killers would make a confession which would clear up exactly how(if) Makoto influenced the other killers.

>>7575924
No H-scenes would be a criminal waste of good art.

>>7575914
>main girl
>silly reason
I guess I won't be joining your elite KnS appreciators club.

>>7575924
Yeah, ero is holding back eroge, this medium could be so much more.
Needs more guro death though

>>7575939
Both killers were said to be very mentally unstable when they were taken under Makoto's psychological care. My guess is that he gave them the final push that turned them to madness. That's the furthest my assumptions can go, though. He was a genius, after all.

>>7575943
Oh no, please anything but that.

How the fuck do I unlock gallery? You gotta finish the true end or something?

>>7576031

If you don't see the credits roll, you didn't reach an ending.

Is there any way to save Tojiko?

I really liked her...out of all the girls she's the only one I could give a shit about. Goddamn it ;_;

>>7576107
Nope. She's dead.

>>7576107
Of course there isn't

>>7575924
This is why I hate MG for meddling with this VN.

The company will gather this kind of responses and release their future games with less originality for the sake of general overseas audience. Keep this up for a long time and we'll see Inogure releasing money milking shitty VNs, this always happens.

I'd prefer to have this VN translated by VN community without being commercialized, no matter how long it takes.

I appreciate MG for translating various eroges, but not, please, not Inogure.

Eroges have ero for a reason, their icing on the cake.
Most of these games are aimed for adults anyway, it's not like it's sacrificing anything to add sex scenes.

Also yea I did want to bang Stella, but I can live with banging most of the other female cast.

>>7576119
I can't imagine how you could ever think that would happen.

>>7576119
I honestly don't think that IG gives two shits about what us foreigners think. If they can make bloody and serious games in the Japanese VN market, which is inundated with demand for pure love, virginal waifu VNs, then they. An sure as hell withstand "market pressure" crom overseas.

Warmly waiting KnS 2 after that ending. I need closure.

>>7576119
Yeah, I too can see how Innogrey will merit ideas for their next ideas based on /jp/'s impression of their game. How silly can you get?

>>7576255

Same.

>>7576255
>>7576437

Shirley, you can't be serious!
I'm expecting a rather ambiguous end with the second game, just as there was with the first.

>>7576462
And then we get KnS3? Cool, I'm fine with that.

>>7576462
Well, from what I can tell they cleaned up loose ends from Cartagra in KnS, so I don't think they will have the same silly ending in KnS 2.

In KnS 2 I want a desperate search for Toko, Reiji's life calling. But judging by that end where he was indifferent to her, I seriously doubt that...

The hentai OVAs were pretty bad..

>>7576596

Sadly this is true, didn't stop me from fapping to it though.

To my surprise I thought Natsume's scene was the hottest bit.

>>7576596
I forgot those existed. Should probably download them now.

>>7576581

> Toko being turned into a limbless husk for the sake of a painting by a psychotic killer

> Looks like your free now...Toko

How can Reiji be this retarded?

>>7576628
She's dead and her soul is finally free.
She hated her body after all.

>>7576634

Reiji is gonna be mad when he figures out she got turned into a mannequin.

>>7576628
This really pissed me off. I mean, seriously, I'm okay for it to end like that, but Reiji's attitude is totally stupid. He should be pissed.

>>7576579

I meant for closure of the story from the story itself, not it's successor.

Speaking of Cartagra, was an english beta/patch released/leaked at all before the C&D?

>>7576648
No, but plenty of screenshots were posted by the editors to tease us.

You guys are brave for playing the game and reading this thread, I would be too scared because spoilers.
Just like /a/ is too scary to browse for me.

>>7576670
I hid the threads until I was done. I'm no dare devil.

>>7576670
I actually got spoiled by the first thread and ended up very frustrated because of that (one spoiler about the main culprit and one about an event). Turned out the main culprit thing wasn't even true. It was kind of a relief, but it irritated me because I had given up thinking because of the "spoiler".

>>7576670
Same moment I dl'ed it I stayed the fuck out of /jp/ for 3 days to make sure I could play it without having anything spoilered for me.

I got spoiled more by the in-game notebook than /jp/. Fuck that bug.

>>7576703

I actually never used the damn notebook. There's no real need to unless you have the memory of a goldfish and can't remember what happened more than 10 mins ago.

>>7576715
It bothers me if I don't read all the new info. Must be my OCD at work.

So I've only solved the first Black Madonna killer case the one that kills Orihime and them early on. and I believe I'm nearing the end of the second half of this one.
I just have a few, very important questions:
1)Why are civilians so retarded? If everyone in MY private school was getting murdered in a month, I think I'd have them stop coming, or have safety measures that are a lot safer than "Don't go alone."

2)Can I stop Tojiko from getting killed? I really, really don't want her to die like that...

>>7576769
The academy was all about appearances. Shutting down because your students are getting butchered wouldn't exactly reflect well on it.

And no, you can't save Tsuzuriko (Don't call her Tojiko!)

>>7576780
Having all your students getting butchered doesn't reflect on your school very well either!

But...Why? Why would they do that to the best girl in the game?

Fuck this game.

>>7576769

>1)Why are civilians so retarded?
It's in their nature

>2)
nope.
Just be glad her death wasn't as painful as Orihime's, who spent a few hours alive in the park after the morphine wore off and before she bled to death.

>>7576798
Well, if that's all I can do, I guess it'll have to do.

Still, feels bad.

So you can't avoid:
- Tojiko's death
- Toko getting amputated

Thinking about that makes me depressed.

>>7576824
Hey, Tsuzuriko, life's looking pretty good, huh? Let's celebrate your novel's release!

>>7576824

Actually, you can.
Just hit a bad end before they happen.

>>7576824
You can't avoid Orihime's death either.
I liked her.

>>7576835
;_;


Things that make me sad:
- You will never have a good end with the heroine: she gets amputated whatever you do.
- You will never escape from Tojiko death.
- You will never have porn scenes with Yukari, Stella or Hatsune.

After getting Endings 1, 2 and 3 I don't know if I'm going to continue this anymore.
I'm getting really sad.

>>7576853
There's an H scene with Hatsune.

>>7576853
Ending 5 is worth it, fits with the themes and all really well.
4 is the depressing cocktease version of said end.

>>7576855
Oh, you're right. Didn't notice that.

>>7576853
Things that make me sad:

-Tsuzuriko is not the main heroine.
-Tsuzuriko dies.
-The part where early on I thought, "Hey, I really like Tojiko!" and then the month changed to April.
-Tsuzuriko dies, meaning I will NEVER heard "Heyyy, Sensei~" ever again.
Ever.

Fuck Toko. I don't really like her at all.

>>7576853
True End isn't that different from what you've read so far, but a CG at the end made me almost break down in tears. If you've enjoyed the story so far you might as well pull through til the end.

Being slow-to-act detective is suffering.

Tojiko ;_;

>>7576876
That bird... i was staring into the pc for 5 minutes when i saw it ;_; And replaying the game and seeing Tojiko and HAI SENSEI was just depressing

>>7577013
Ruri no tori was the perfect song to play at that moment

>>7577013
Wasn't quite sure what to expect when I checked the picture, but I almost ended up in tears, I had to click past it pretty quickly though. But extremly fitting painting and sound.

Boy this game got REAL depressing real fast.

What the fuck?

>>7577092
Don't worry, it's likely to get even worse depending on how far you've gotten. ;_;

I like Toko and how she greets you "YAA~ SENSEI", I get a fuzzy feeling inside when she says that.

Looks like Toko and Tojiko are the highest tier characters due to their popularity in the threads.

But still, this game is twisted to the core -- you can't hate the characters but if you'll come to like them, you will die from depression.

In the order of my likes: long hair Toko > Tojiko > Stella > Hatsune


...who the hell likes the short haired Toko anyway?

>>7577239
No one.
Spoiler
she should have died instead of Tojiko and her death could have been random classmate
GOOD END FOR TOJIKO AND K. TOKO

>>7577249

Are you saying you'd rather have Yukari or Ayumu kidnapped in either of their places?

>>7577249
I have a better end: Keiji catches his wife's killer 5 years ago and this entire massacre is averted.

>>7577265

but in that end, you never fall in love to Toko, and never have the option of romancing Tojiko

>>7577276
As long as Tojiko's safe it doesn't matter...

Good morning!

Just started it. I gotta admit that this sprite is pretty cute.

>>7577116
You were right.

I hate this game. But I cannot stop playing.

>>7577400
Not gonna lie. That sounds a lot like NTR.

>>7577413
Indeed. It's NTR'd me away from my precious happy VNs.

Ahaha, but no, I just enjoy detective stories and mysteries, and despite many things causing me grief and what not, I can't put it down.

Why is the Divine Comedy so popular among VN writers? Do the japanese have to read it in high school or something?

>>7577396

SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY SHE'S OKAY
;_;

>>7577473
But she is okay.

...somewhat ;_;


Continuing on, I didn't know you could save Shugo's wife -- I just got past that part where Reiji was able to arrest the culprit of the first series of murders.

>>7577396
I STILL LOVE HER EVEN THOUGH SHE ENDED UP LIKE THAT

>>7577602
Its ok. I was raging as fuck when I saw her and Yukari both die. I went back pick the other choices and was literally stucked in that fucking loop for hours.
Gave up read the walkthrough and for fuck sake realize I miss a stupid torn piece of paper from the skirt.
This is probably one of the harder eroge to play. Most other games choices are pretty obvious for you to make when you are shooting for specific heroine.

>>7577602
Its ok. I was raging like fuck when I saw her and Yukari both die. I went back pick the other choices and was literally stucked in that fucking loop for hours.
Gave up read the walkthrough and for fuck sake realize I miss a stupid torn piece of paper from the skirt.
This is probably one of the harder eroge to play. Most other games choices are pretty obvious for you to make when you are shooting for specific heroine.

>>7577624

Reported

>>7577624
Spoiler tags for the less fortunate people who haven't read it yet.

>>7577624
Dat first sentence, man. Tag that shit.

>>7577627
>>7577639
Captcha ate my tags and seriously, what are you doing in here if you haven't finish the game.

>>7577602
Its ok. I was raging like fuck when I saw her and Yukari both die. I went back pick the other choices and was literally stucked in that fucking loop for hours.
Gave up read the walkthrough and for fuck sake realize I miss a stupid torn piece of paper from the skirt.
This is probably one of the harder eroge to play. Most other games choices are pretty obvious for you to make when you are shooting for specific heroine.

Uh, maybe I'm doing something wrong, but, even after checking the walkthrough I cannot click the Between the books on top of the desk (picture postcard) during the investigation of Shinji's place.

>>7577703

You need to save during the investigation part, BEFORE clicking the far drawers but AFTER clicking everything on the desk.

Then, play until the end, reload that save, and click the upper part of the books on the shelf. You should find it then.

I don't what the fuck this is, but I want to know why they would ruin the beautiful art in this game by using it.

>>7578278
That's a tsuzuriko.

>>7578278
You are terrible, anon. Just terrible.

>>7578296
"Don't call me Tojik- huh?"

I found her to be a bit annoying in the beginning, and of course, by the time her time rolls around I like her. ;_;

This game is frustrating me. Too many questions and not enough answers. I just hit a bad end around April 12th, and it just doesn't make any sense. It'd be worth it if I were actually enjoying it, but he always seems to be two steps behind and not actually figuring anything out.

>>7578340
Almost everything is explained by the time you complete all the paths in the game. The walkthrough actually misses a few details, I would recommend extracting the scripts and searching through them to see what choices do what.

Oh god. At first I thought that Hatsune is just cute and then she says, "Even you won't touch a girl who worked in a brothel" ;_; I went HHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH

>>7578490
I think they explain that she's pure right from the start before she's introduced.

>>7578523
Yukari and Tojiko are the only pure girls in the game.

They die as virgin.

>>7578523

right from the beginning, they explain how she used to be a prostitute in a brothel before nearly everybody she knew was murdered and how she was rescued/adopted by Shugo.

Not spoilered because this shit is in the prologue.

>>7578562
She wasn't a prostitute when she worked at the brothel.

>>7578278
You are a cruel, cruel man. I wish a slow yet timely death upon you.

>>7578556
You can have sex with Tojiko if you have enough of her points when she stays the night. She is still killed a few days later.;_;

>>7578523
>>7578562
>>7578564
But still... that line is cute.

I don't get it.
Why is there a scene where you get to be in the POV of the first killer (Kusaka) when he cuts off a right leg from a girl (Kazuna) but he didn't really do it, Kazuna still has her right leg.

>>7578757
That is from the dead girls in the eggs. There are 2 dead girls (or was it 3? I dont remember) before Tojiko.

>>7578775
Wait. I was talking about the scene where the egg-incident didn't happen yet and Reiji is searching for Kazuna.
This scene appeared before Reiji and Uozumi infiltrate Kusaka's hidden house where he keeps Yui.
(True ending)

>>7578684
She was cute as fuck in Cartagra.

>>7579033
Yeah, that's still from Shinji's POV. Remember how the egg meat was all old and rotten? That's because he started his killing way back before you cracked the first case. In a later scene in Shinji's POV he mentions that he has already done this before and that he prefers to start with the legs. This coincides with the killer POV scene that we are led to believe depicts Shugo's waifu being cut up.

>>7579794
So that explains it.

How does the ending spoil Cartagra? Is it the fact that Makoto killed Reiji's wife? Just I want to read Cartagra when it's released, as it looks pretty balling with great looking art again, and I'm not sure if it'll be worth it if I've been 100% spoiled.

>>7579862
Cartagra getting a re-release with better art?

>>7579868
No, I mean it looks like it has good art, and I kind of need an English release to actually read it, is what I mean.

>>7579869
But Cartagra got released waaaay before Kara no Shoujo so the art isn't that --- BEHOLD HATSUNE.

>>7579879
Very different art, but I love it all the same. In fact, I probably like it more so.

>>7579862
Please help? I kind of want to know pretty bad so if not I can check out the CG for Cartagra, because that shit looks great.

>>7579862
>How does the ending spoil Cartagra?
Not at all, I think. They are completely different stories.

>>7580123
Oh. Okay. Just someone said that it spoiled Cartagra for some reason.

>>7580155
I haven't read the whole thread, so I don't know what post you're referring to, but I played Cartagra after Kara and I haven't been spoiled by it.

The only thing Kara spoils is that the reappearing characters probably can't be the main villains in Cartagra and won't die in the true end. But this doesn't really touch the actual story.

It spoils one twist with Yura (Kazuna's twin sister), that's it. Then again if you ever checked the character bios of KnS and saw Kazuna being healthy and pregnant, then you will already realize what's really going on in that scene.
Not that groundbreaking though.

>>7580336
>>7580331
Super cool. Warmly awaiting MG localization so I can buy it.

I just beat it now.

I know I always rag on Key games for their shitty magic and happy ends, but goddamn it I'm eating my own words. I want a happy end for this game where everyone's alright. ;_;

>>7580155
It's not an ending, but there's a scene between Hatsune and Shugo that talks about what happened to the characters from Cartagra.

>>7581084
Oh. I missed that because I skipped to the true end because I couldn't be bothered with reading the entire game again because skip is FUCKING BROKE. Lucky me.

Fuck the flags. I gave up trying to understand them and just blindly followed the guide to unlock every scene.

A few questions:
1. The original engine is not krkr, right? I'd be pretty pissed if I actually bought a game with such shitty skip function.
2. Does anyone have any links for Cartagra? I could only find a torrent but it's already patched in Chinese. I'd rather read it raw if possible.
3. How is Nagomibako? Is it worth reading?

>>7581084
Is that the one where Shugo says everyone is leaving him? (he gives out a few names -- probably characters from Cartagra) I haven't played Cartagra since my moon knowledge is pretty low.

>>7581282
For cartagra search in hongfire teh innocent grey collection. You have some MF links.

>>7580717
Key games=always fitting and thematically adquate
Also
>air
>happy end

Anyone knows the difference between the azure discs and the OST of KnS?

>>7581282
Nagomibako is awesome. The crossover is funny and the minigames are fun. The sidescenarios are also pretty good. Of course you gotta go past Pianissimo too for this game though..

Just got the true end.
I feel so bad.

Ah, it was nice to actually read something thats good. after trying to get through demonbane. my only 2 complaints about this game is Tojiko ;_; and no quad amputee toko sex scene

so what happened during the part
How did Yukari ended in the egg thing? what is that?
Why Kasuka was lying on the ground and how did the key was stored the other guy stomach

>>7584709
Your second question is dumb. As for the first one, I'd say that InnoGrey just wanted to write an bad end for her. I don't think you should think too hard about that part.

>>7584716
I don't remember what happened about that scene after playing straight till the end.
Did he kill himself?

>>7583162
>second thing
No, you sick bastard.
Also offing Tojiko reminded me a lot of Rin in Cartagra, didn't deserve it.

>>7575855
>>7575885
Seconded so hard. I require MOAR STELLA.

I was also kinda disappointed that Ayumu didn't get that much time devoted to her, let alone an eroscene. I hope Reiji takes her up on her offer to become his PI-in-training sidekick at some point in the sequel.

>>7579862
The bad ending where Kazuna dies, Takashiro loses it and Hatsune comes to comfort him is a Cartagra spoiler, since he mentions by name a whole bunch of people that died in Cartagra. That's the spoiler I was talking about. There's no mention of the killer, though, nor of the plot beyond "prostitutes dying left and right".

>>7584720
>>7584709

What happened is:
- Kusaka, having killed Kazuna, completed Yui's body, and (presumably) enjoying his imouto necrophilia funtimes, decides he's gonna continue killing people according to the Divine Comedy. He picks Reiji for Cocytus, the hell of the wrathful (which had Satan frozen in ice - hint hint); he figures, correctly, that the only way he can make Reiji lose his cool is to force him to choose between his imouto and his best friend.

- Kusaka presumably kidnaps Yukari, puts her in some kind of refrigeration thing (I have nfc how, but he does), locks her up, and then either kidnaps Shugo or lures him there to feed him the key. He then knocks Shugo out, writes his note, and commits suicide with amyl nitrate or whatever.

Like I said, bad ending, so don't worry too much if it doesn't jive 100% with the rest of the story.

>>7575924
You can actually play the game and complete every ending except the True one (and that may be possible too, I just haven't checked) and only ever see two sex scenes: the one with Natsume after you bring her the right handwriting samples, and the one in the flashback.

>>7571190
> Regarding KnS2, there will be new protag, 50 charaters total, and the story is continuing a year after true end.

Source on this, anyone?

I GUESS I'd be okay with this, as long as Reiji is still around at least as much as Takashiro was in KnS.

Also, while having that many characters sounds like it'll make for some enjoyably difficult sleuthing, it also means that I have no chance of winning the InnoGrey deadpool contest for KnS 2 ;___;
(I actually played the Caucasus one and managed enough points for a runner-up prize, but that had only 12 characters; Lot 50 is going to be fucking impossible.)

>>7585820
I'm about hundred percent sure it's bs made up by that anon. As far as I know (and I stalk IG obsessedly), there's no info of any kind to support any of this as no details were given thus far.

What happened in the true end?

>>7581431
Thanks.

>>7581568
So I won't have fun if I don't read pp?

>>7584723
Rin's death hurt much more than Tojiko's.
Even though I knew that she wouldn't make it thanks to KnS' Shuugo recalling past events, it stills leaves me with a bad aftertaste considering her interactions with Shuugo (specially the "Respond to her feelings" choice). Tsuzuriko was more of a comical relief sidekick with a shoehorned sex scene.

Oh, and autosage by the way.

Wow I got such a shitty bad end. Where the fuck did I go wrong?

Got the end with Yukari frozen in ice and teacher kid dead in Shakujii park

Guess I'll be using the walkthrough.

>>7587942
Well the crossover section requires you to, otherwise it'd fly over your head in my opinion.

Someone please make a new thread.

New Amputee no Shoujo thread where?

New thread >>7590102

Sorry guys, you're stuck with superior Kazuna.