/jp/ - Otaku Culture

AT3 Artbook - http://www.mediafire.com/?jrm2mg22mkx

AT2 Raki bug patch - http://www.mediafire.com/?bp8ydy03ml7r5xa
You shouldn't need this if you're using the newest version (0.9.7) of PCSX2. Thanks to anonymous for uploading this!

Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_14

Latest Toukousphere Translation:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_107
April Fools TKS:
http://www.mediafire.com/?avpff50jo843a52

AT Visual Book available for pre-order:
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781926778266/Ar-Tonelico-Visual-Book
Atelier Official Chronicle is OUT:
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781926778204/Atelier-Series

A friendly reminder that Filament is the absolute embodiment of moe and that you would be heartless to disagree.

You know, due to how slow /jp/ is a thread can go several days even after it's hit 300 post.
Just saying.

>>7521235
What's the point if fellow ATbros can't catch it on the front page?

I just started playing Mana Khemia 2, and it's a pretty good game, improved on a lot of stuff from the first one. But the thing is, I'm finding the characters so far to be kind of unlikeable. The MC guy is okay, and Flay's back being awesome, but the rest of the cast is just so... bland, I suppose.

>>7521240
People on /jp/ are more than capable of browsing past the very first page.

>>7521243
I really liked Puniyo, and I thought Et was a bit cute. Of course, the characters in MK2 are always going to be inferior because there isn't a playable Flay or an Anna. Comparing the two casts is absolutely unfair.

>>7521240
It's not hard to find threads in /jp/. Use Browser or just comb through the pages until you find it.

If only the psp port of MK2 went overseas.
I want to fight Flay.

>>7521243
>>7521253
I liked the cast of MK2 more than the cast of MK1.
Well Raze's side anyways.

MK1 had a good cast but the character events were far too few and too short for them to be properly developed, MK2 did a lot better in that regard.

>>7521266
You can fight Flay? Why was this not in the PS2 version?

>>7521271
But Anna. And Flay.

>>7521228
Oh Anon you card.

>>7521228
YES

Hey /jp/, who wins? Raze or Vayne?

>>7521318
Raze, he just need cut him

>>7521322
Vayne isn't a mana anymore.

I like Raze a little bit more than Vayne, though at both of their lowest points I preferred Vayne over Raze

Now that they're done with Totorin and friends, can we get more Ar Tonelico?

>>7521336
I'd rather have another Mana Khemia, thank you.

Who actually knows Hymmnos here?

>>7521342
Mana Khemia kinda sucks

>>7521336

No. Homo Atelier games only.

Hyperdimension 35 pounds
Ar Tonelico 35 pounds

ENGLAND!!!!

Fuck lower the prices I WANT TO BUY THERE GAMES

>>7521336

>>7521373

Don't expect them to get any lower, sadly. Being an RPG fan is suffering.

It would be nice if they could release the Ar Tonelico games for the PSP.

I would buy them.

>Checked for the premium edition of Meruru almost one whole month before the release date
>Already sold out everywhere

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>7521696
Silly anon you can't read Japanese who are you kidding!

>>7521741
読めるよ

>>7521670

I've always wondered why anyone would want to play a RPG (or, in that matter, any other genre that somewhat requires longer play sessions ... Valkyria Chronicles 2/3 comes to mind) on a portable console.

Maybe it's just me, but aren't those games far more enjoyable on a larger TV screen?

>>7522343
It's just you

>>7521670

If they ported AT2 to PSP and added in a Cynthia end, I'd probably buy three copies.

>>>/v/

>>7522343
I asked myself the same question.

And I still can't understand why the majority of good jRPGs are on the PSP.

I'm guessing it's as simple as this. Developing for a PSP is like x10 cheaper then for a PS3.

Hopefully with Vita we'll see multiform PS3/Vita stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFM3I5_ado

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHXveqH8JZ4

>>7522343
>>7522364
I've played a number of long JRPGs on PSP and I can say that it is a different appeal, but the appeal exists.

On car rides, bus trips, anywhere outside of home (hahaha outside) it's nice to just pull out the PSP and jump into a game for a bit to pass the time. Even at home sometimes I just don't feel like booting up the console or posting on /jp/ and would rather pull out the PSP for a few hours.

All-stars onsen.

>>7523149
Atelier truly is a wonderful series

Surely they can port AT1-2-3 for Vita.

I really appreciate whoever has been making these threads. These are better than /v/!

>>7523289
>/v/

Don't mention that here, silly.

>>7523296
Does /jp/ have a thing against /v/? Why?
Because its /b/ 2.0?

>>7523149
are they all from the ps3 games? I only recognize pamela

>>7523289
They make AT threads?
I assumed by default they hate this stuff.

>>7523314
Well, some try.

But yes, they do hate this kind of stuff, usually.

>>7523313
Aside from some new characters, yes, they're all from the PS3 Atelier games. Esty, Filly, Pamela, Rorona, Totori, Mimi and Astrid to name some.

>>7522343

Honestly it baffles me too. The target audience for these types of games are people like us who rarely go out anyway so why the fuck would we need it on a portable? I imagine it's a lot cheaper to produce games for a portable device but I imagine they're alienating quite a bit of their target audience at the same time so is it really worth it? I can see the appeal for some people like >>7522835 mentions but in all honesty would you rather play a low budget game on a portable for 2 hours on a bus ride or whatever or have a full budget game on a console that you can play for 40+ hours on a glorious HDTV without any background noise or any normalfags watching you?

>>7523149

Well, time to fap.

Where is Cordelia?
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>7523380
Fear not! She's right here!

>>7523383
yaranaika?

>>7521243
I only play Mana Khemia.Never get the chance to play 2 at all

>>7523149
saw that earlier wow

I need to get a new TV so I can finally play Mana Khemia. It's only been sitting on my shelf for 2 years now...

This thing and the corresponding synth conversation had me laughing for the last few minutes.

I tip my hat to whoever had that idea.

(In case it's not clearly visible: It's a bomb with twin-tail fuses that's wearing a school swimsuit)

>>7521217
>> http://www.mediafire.com/?5e2ttnrjtim3n4i
maybe I will download this and play it but I don't know how to get started with this

>>7523518
Yeah that was great

>>7523519
Uhh, play the first game, then the second?

>>7523518
Maybe hitting a little too close to home, there.

>>7523545
That sure is a popular scene.

>>7523554
Says the women who's every other word is flirtatious.

When do I need to decide what character I'm going for in AT3? I'm about a hour into phase 2 and I have not yet made up my mind.

>>7523600
It depends on the heart points you get, you need at least 2 to get a character's ending, 3 for extra CGs. You get heart points at the route split choices.

>>7523559
Ah, the epic tsundere vs moe debate. Love this scene

>>7523600
split it 2-1 and go for the best reyvateli

ＣＥＲＯ★Ａ

>>7524590
Merurulince X-Ray Vision, go!

question to AT3p players.
At the end of the true route (Saki's in my case) there were 3 choices at the ending.
If I want to read them all, do I need to re-do the final boss again? Or is there a faster way?

Also, Filament's purging made me really hard.

>>7524590
Oh, wow. That is... incredibly hot.

>>7524809
You mean the last choice where Saki asks you why you've chosen her? I picked the boobs answer...
No, not that I know of, just load a save before the boss and fight again if you really need to I guess.

I'm more of an Ar-Ru purge person myself.

Atelier Meruru's OP movie has music resembling AT.

>>7524912
Which one?

>>7525085
Most likely with Harmonics Tilia with how the opening starts with a strong vocal chorus.

IMHO, there's more similarities with the structure of the theme with Pilgrimage, Atelier Totori's opening than Ar tonelico themes.

>>7524836
I think I'm doing something really wrong here, sometimes flipsphere missed the boss entirely. What exactly am I supposed to be doing in the final boss battle? Pummeling enemies?
For me it's hard to keep concentrating in battle with Filament/Soma/Ar Ru purging... not like concentration matter.
Tyria on the other hand, struck me with a feeling of awe everytime she purged.

Oh, now I know what the last 45 seconds of Hibernation reminds me of: EXEC_HYMME_LUMINOUS_DEF/.

>>7524590

... I'd love to shake hands with every single member of the GUST team. This is just glorious. Meruru is already looking fucking awesome from the visuals to the music, they replaced a hag with a loli and now there's x-ray pantyshots available too? FUCKING GLORIOUS. GUST are bros for life.

>>7525597

You're not supposed to flipsphere the last boss. Purge to level 3 and use that instead. The magic used during the last boss is different compared to your normal magic and is supposed to be your feelings used against the boss which is why there's different stages of the fight as Ar Ciel begins to accept you. Using a flipsphere changes your magic from these 'feelings' to their generic flipsphere attack which isn't that effective against the boss, I believe, just like physical attacks.

>>7525907

Also I may be talking shit here, I haven't played in months but I think that's how it goes in the last fight. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

>>7525907

That's about right. IIRC the song magic works the same way in the phase 4 fight against Ar Ru.

>>7525907
I'm not sure, I Flipsphere'd the boss perfectly fine on my run. Kept hammering the enemies to build up purge, purged to level 3 (for faster burst and bonuses), then sat back and let the burst bar build up to around 200000% before Flipsphere'ing. Rinse and repeat four times for the four stages of the boss.

AT2 Plot Q&A:
Firstly thanks for those who answered my questions from the previous thread, you guys are awesome. I have some more questions but first, just in case anybody's interested, I'll answer some of my own questions as I found the answers to those as I'm going through my 2nd playthrough on Cloche's path:

>Who released Frelia after the group saw her in Kanakana pier?
Chester did, while capturing the group at the same time.

>How come Frelia agrees to sing Hibernation but then stopped when Luca called to her and then even turned to try and stop sublimation (when sublimation pretty much equals hibernation)?
This was suggested by another anon and he's right: Frelia was being hacked by infel. There's a scene when Frelia started singing showing infel being overjoyed that she finally managed to connect herself to ar tonelico and found Goro (who holds the key to the D-Cellophane connected to Frelia). After Hibernation stopped Frelia also said that she feels like somebody is going through her heart from the inside. There's also a possibility Infel's hacking is what causing Frelia to lose power (or at least more rapidly) which causes the rim to start falling off as Frelia also complained that the weird feeling inside her made her feel powerless.

And now for the questions (some are new, some unanswered fro previous thread):

How come Luca sometimes "explodes" when she's in danger/sad? (e.g. when Reisha got hit by a divine army robot or when luca and cloche almost got executed)

What's Lakra's power? There's a scene where Cocona said the exact same things as Lakra, is that part of Lakra's power (controlling IPDs?)? Or is that caused by something unique to Cocona?

What's Laude doing in Metafalls anyway? Is he the one causing the rim to fall apart according to which parts have the most historical records in them or is it really Infel's hacking?

>>7525968
I really, really think you should just play the game and keep answering them yourself. Everything you've asked both here and in the other thread has common-sensically been answered in game. There is no need to ask us about things the game spoonfeeds you.

>>7525982
Considering from so many questions I only managed to answer 1 myself... no I don't think it's really spoonfed to me

>>7525968

Luca "explodes" due to her link with Frelia. Basically, she's channeling the goddess' power.

Laude is trying to score a Heart of Gaea for the Archia Think Tank, an organization you encounter in AT3. I forget what he intended to do with it from here. Infel is the one who was trying to get rid of the historical records, though.

>>7525941
>>7525932
>>7525919
>>7525907
And that accelerate the battle like 4 times faster. Derp.
I flipsphere the boss too in my first run using Ar_Ru which for some reason doing 4-8m damage/flips killing the boss instantly. Then it took a full hour doing the same thing with Filament, until I found out I was doing things wrong. No flips it is.

>>7525991
If all these people can play through the game and be able to answer the same questions without asking about it on /jp/, I think there might be a problem. Are you seriously even thinking about the game? Are you even playing it?

>>7526004
Don't forget that differing stats will differ the damage output.

I've successfully Flipsphere'd the boss every time across multiple runs with different characters. You just have to keep in mind that the boss is a four-part boss, you have to do it four times.

>>7526005
From their answers, there are hints that some of these people have read something else outside of the game such as setting books and AT3.

but this is not what we're supposed to be discussing in this thread

>>7526019
Problem is, I think I kept failing the flips.
Ar attack < Filament's by a 1000 points on my run at this point. I'm not sure but Ar flips had another single hits after the barrage causing 4m damage at least.
If this is suppose to be happening with other Reyv, it would seem I failed the flips...really bad.

>>7525968
>>7526029
Probably read the Toukouspheres, which I highly recommend the person asking questions to do so as well.

Have you ever tried this, /jp/? BBQ Soda!

>>7526200
Why must be every heroine so bad at cooking, god.
They can be good at sewing, medicines, bombs, but never cooking.

>>7526332
Hey, BBQ Soda tastes really good!

Cocona said so don't bother her about it.

>>7526362
Wasn't it Jacqli who said that?
Even then it still looks like a chunk of meat in soda.

>>7526200
Like a strip of bacon in a glass of 7-UP.

Do difficulties in AT3 had any impact on the story? I might go easy mode if it could accelerate the play through.

>>7526547
None at all, feel free to put it on easy and breeze through the fucker.

>>7526547

Nope, no difference in story. Just a question of whether or not you want combat to be "spam square to win," "oh hey I actually have to use song magic on normal enemies," or "wow, I'm actually capable of losing!"

>>7526560

This pretty much sums it up nicely. For your first playthrough play on normal and/or hard mode then for any other playthroughs you do just stick it on easy mode and breeze through the game, worked out rather nicely for me since there's only so many times you can fight the same shit over and over without getting bored. The random encounter down item also helps for this.

>>7526379
Actually Lyner, Shurellia, and Lyner all said it. Makes me wonder how it'd taste like...

oh, and funbun

>>7529046
I wanted to say Jaqli, not lyner for the second time

>>7529088

You confused Jakuri with Lyner? Shame on you, good sir.

Where's PS3 emulation?

>>7530653
In the future

>>7530653
Give it 5 more years, bro.

>>7530653
In the same place as PSP emulation, Middle of Nowhere, City of Nowhere, in Kansas.

My copy of AT3 just arrived, I didn't know it came with the OST.
The artbook is awesome.

>>7530714
Artbook is shitty compared to Japan's one.
Well, if you are happy with it, it's good.

>>7530718
Yeah I know, but I downloaded the jp version for that.

>>7530701
PSP actually has a semi-decent emulator, while PS3 has none.

>>7530808
There is a PSP emulator? Where?

>>7530849
It exists, but it sucks, seriously

>>7530889
Figures, well here's hoping that a decent 3DS emulator comes out soon so I can buy a PS Vita, which better have backwards comparability.

>>7530889
Does it at least work? I wanted to try playing Valkyria Whatever.
I understand that emulating the Cell processor isn't feasible but the PSP is a crappy handheld so I never really understood why there weren't emulators for it.

>>7530849
http://jpcsp.org/
>Java

>>7530849
google jpcsp

It's horrendously buggy, i tried playing persona 3 on it (I played it on the ps2 but I wanted to try the femc route) and all the battles ran at 10fps. My computer is not bad either, I think even a great pc would have trouble getting to 60fps

>>7530901
>PSP is a crappy handheld
What the fuck did you just say?

>>7530909
Toss it then.

>>7530909
I'll give it a try, I guess. My computer was top-of-the-line a couple years ago, so maybe I have a chance.

>>7530911
Nothing but the truth, your honor.

>>7530921
Obviously you've never had a PSP

>>7530928
Obviously, because there's no sense in emulating a console I own!

>>7521291
Really late reply but,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAnQxxz59C4
I know there isn't much recognition to the psp port but still, there was even a trailer for the port that hinted a fight with flay.

Is there a link to a loss-less version of the Atelier Vocal Historia?
So far I've only found some dead RS Links and the torrent of the LonE release that doesn't have any seeds ...

>>7530909
Errors everywhere, can't start, whatever.
Great emulator.

>>7531096
Told you

>>7530936
Unless you want save states, or debugging, or lack of planned obsolescence, or... You get the picture? But still, enjoy the real one while it lasts. Especially since, has anyone managed good PSP emulation yet?

Could we stop talking about this emulator crap and start discussing something that actually matters? Like Finnel's deliciously flat chest.

Let's discuss Finnel's deliciously flat chest.

>>7531626
I like her delicious flat chest.

>>7531626
Saki's tits are better.

>>7531668
You dare speak blasphemy, heretic?

>>7531699
Heretic? I am but revolutionary!

>>7531668
[spoile]Too bad you won't enjoy them for long[/spoiler]

>>7531668
Too bad you won't enjoy them for long

>>7531708
As if the rules of the real affected 2D.

>>7531699
>>7531705

Origin's delicious and supreme chest > *

>>7531721
They are the perfect beings, thus it is fitting that they have the perfect chests.

>>7531982
True, true... But, there is one existence that surpasses even the Origins who embodies perfection. That one existence alone is Jakuri.

>>7532149
When usually you need around 10 minutes for one level at cosmosphere, but i need 1 hour at jakuri's level 4 cosmosphere.
THAT DFC. THAT BLUSH. THAT VOICE.

Is it just me or is it a lot harder to find talk topics in AT2 compared to the first part? I'm in phase 5 now and still missing about half of Clothe's (on her route).

>>7532228

IMHO the best part about her cosmosphere were the silly roles of Luca & Cloche.
Everything else felt incredibly boring to the point where I was happy that I finally got locked out at the end of level 5. (Knowing my luck, though, that might have also been the part where her sphere gets all sorts of awesome ... correct me if I'm wrong).

That being said, I do think that she's kinda cute but I'd still choose Luca over her.

>>7532235
I found them easier to get in AT2. Much more of them just rely on progress now instead of making you go to completely out of the way locations you have no reason to visit.
A lot of Luca/Cloche's level 4 and 5 topics are only available if you're on the other girl's route, though. All those talks on Gaea. Play through the game again with Luca and you should fill a lot of them out.

>>7531626
Her 3rd and 4th persona are even more glorious.
I'd buy another copy just to see Suzunomia purging 'manually'. Starting with her obi. That's right. As the purging continues, pieces of kimono laying on the floor.

I'll stop now.

>>7532942

>I'll stop now.

Damn right you will, get the fuck away from my waifu.

Just watched Cynthia's crying scene

;_:

>>7534625
Best girl indeed.
Forever alone ;_;

>>7534625

I would buy three copies of an AT2 port/remake that had a Cynthia end added.

>>7534789
Cynthia should have been a vanguard.

>>7534789

Replace Cynthia with Cocona and we're talking.

>>7534810
But Cocona already has an ending. In two games, no less.

>>7534804

FUCK YES, KILLING BITCHES WITH WEAPONS OF LOVE~

>>7534824

Oh, really? Doesn't seem to be in AT2 though ... mind you, I haven't finished it yet (phase 5), but she pretty much disqualified herself earlier in the game.
Something along the lines of "I love him, but he's too old for me so I'll stay in my imouto role and wish you luck"

>>7534837
don't clear any girls' cosmosphere lvl 5

>>7534862
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

brb, starting AT2 from scratch.

>>7534862
but I want to approach her intentionally. I want to make a direct choice into her ending. I want to be asked who am I choosing/thinking of. I want to choose Cocona. I'm saying the same thing four times.

>>7534879

While you may not directly approach her in the story you effectively walk up to your 11 year old 'imouto' and tell her that you'll wait until she's legal before tapping dat ass. I'd say that's a pretty direct way of doing things.

>>7535077
I'd like to see her cosmosphere.

>>7535077
Then she leaves to another tower, I don't see the point.

>>7535124

That's at Jakuri's request - 2 years later I might add. She's at the third tower for a matter of months before she returns, though she may have been NTR'd during this depending on your actions in AT3.. Fuck you, GUST.

>>7535090

She was too young for that in AT2 and in AT3 she barely knows the group long enough to actually go through with it. First she's Tatsumi, then she appears as Cocona but she's a vanguard so the group probably assumed she wasn't a reyvateil then by the time METHOD_HYMELLI/. is sung it's too late to enter a dive shop anyway. I'd certainly like to dive into her too though, if you know what I mean.

>>7535409
Even then it just opens the possibility. The AT3 ending is intentionally vague and kind of leans towards "I'm going to go see if he is still waiting for me."

Not that anyone supports anything but Croix+Cocona. Wasn't the toukousphere poll like 80% in his favor?

>>7534625
>>7534765
>>7534789
The japs seems to be thinking the same thing as us

>>7535616
I, for one, support Croix and Cynthia.

Obligatory.

>>7535616

Something like that, then again Croix is a popular figure in the TKS so that's expected really. The imouto end is best regardless.

>>7535616
80%?
It was more like 95%

>>7535409
Cocona was out of the Ar tonelico's broadcast range for most of the game so she'll have just been a 'normal' girl and wouldn't have exhibited reyvateil characteristics. That was rather fortunate since it did mean she didn't need life extending agent while on the third tower both when it came to the whole discomfort thing in administering it and secondly because in general, the third tower was hostile as heck to 3rd gen reyvateils. On a side note, Croix does administer the agent to her while she was on Metafalss.

It's only because Sasha was launching those relay satellites that Cocona was able to reconnect back to the Ar tonelico.

>>7537544
And by Ar Tonelico you mean Infel Pira, I assume.

>>7539357
Yeap... brain fart. I was thinking of why Jaquli isn't able to go to the third tower when I was typing that out...

Part of the AT3 settei book has been translated. The history is quite interesting

>remixes

>EXEC_HARVESTASYA/. => Harmonic EOLIA
>Salavec Rhaplanca => Harmonics FRELIA
>Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor => Harmonics TILIA.

Aside from Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor, which is in OP, where can I get (lossless) copies of these remixes?

>>7539636

I don't have them lossless, but if you're fine with the .mp3 versions here they are.

Salavec Rhaplanca
http://www.mediafire.com/?69dlya322qa4wp7
EXEC_HARVESTASYA/.
http://www.mediafire.com/?lc6b8mlr2i9l4bi

>>7539675
Do these belong to an album or something?

>>7539743

Salavec Rhaplanca is originally from Akiko Shikata's Harmonia album.
EXEC_HARVESTASYA/. from her RAKA album

>>7539675
I guess I'll make do, thanks

Is this any good?

>Finnel's CS
>"You can now use Soma's body"

I would totally use Soma's body, if you know what I mean.

>>7540002
And she will leave her clown head on.

>>7540019

>>7540002
Soma's cool, she snapped her own neck in the cosmossphere

>>7540019
Ah, need that certain comic

So I just got the AT Bomb recipe from Cynthia.

Fuck that, not gonna fall for it again.

So when is the release date for Meruru? I still haven't bought Ar Tonelico and I figure I might as well get the new game rather than the old one.

Not only was this incredibly entertaining, I want this game even harder now.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/06/22/the-voice-of-atelier-meruru-plays-atelier-meruru/

>>7541043

It was released about a week ago, assuming you're referring to the moon version of the game. If you want an English version you'll more than likely have to wait a year or two since Totori is only being released around September time, I think.

Toukousphere 118 is out

>>7542618

Speaking of which, what happened to the TKS translations? They just kind of stopped a while ago.

This might be a translation gaffe, but
Why does everyone on the 3rd tower seem to know that Metafalica was created? I figured the towers kept mostly to themselves.

Any news on a new ATQ print run? Most LEs that I see are over USD 200 plus shipping to my country.

I should've bought that LE back in April even if it meant strving for a month.;_;

>>7540000
>>7540000
Songs are good in this one.

>>7543384
You mean the Premium edition?

>>7543384

Buy a standard copy of the game for cheap, download the OST and instead buy the Visual Book coming out with the money saved. Unless you REALLY want the art book that comes with the game in which case I think you may be fucked.

Am I the only one worried that the AT book might be pushed back again? Their Valkyria Chronicles book has been pushed back multiple times since February (it's currently at late July or mid-August, depending on who you ask), and I remember the Atelier Chronicle got pushed back a few times as well.

>>7545325
It will come when it comes, and will be all the more sweeter when it does.

>>7545325

That's pretty much why I'm not getting my hopes up for it. The Atelier book was delayed so much that I even forgot about it until it randomly arrived at my door like 2-3 weeks ago. I'm pretty much doing the same with the AT book, that way I can't be disappointed each time I see the HERP DERP DELAYED ANOTHER 2 MONTHS update you get via email.

>>7545196
There's no 'standard' version of the game so far, and I'm waiting for this new print run. Everyone who pre-ordered theirs who didn't get the OST had new copies shipped to them, which really sucks. Why would NISA do that, even with all the storm stuff back then? Maybe this is why there was a shortage of copies, I dunno.

>>7546306

You never stated it but are you only referring to the NISA store? The standard game comes with a soundtrack, I think. That's it. All normal shops sell this. The premium edition came with a pre-order art book (and calendar if you wanted it, only from the NISA store) otherwise those stopped after the initial run. A standard edition of the game is available from over 10 shops in the UK ranging from £29-40 so I'm not exactly sure how it can be out of stock, unless you're only talking about the NISA store.

>>7546437
>The standard game comes with a soundtrack, I think.
Well, okay.

Nobody sells it here nowadays. Whenever I ask stores for the game, they say it's 'out of stock' and 'they don't know if it will be available in the future'., I looked around online and it will cost me USD 200-250 with shipping and customs. I don't want to spend that much on the game.

I also find it retarded that NISA didn't print R3. I will have to look for the other regions to get the game and that will cost me a lot. Why can't they print R3 like what they did to Rorona?

>>7542618
So AT4 will be about fixing the blastline?

>>7546910

I assumed you tried Amazon and such? It's only selling for £35 on Amazon UK and I think delivery outside of the UK is less than £5 for a game so that's only £40. Or try eBay or something if you trust it.

So what exactly is in the Visual Book? Is it just an artbook or is it sort a compressed settei book?

>>7547086
It's more of an art book. Kinda similar to the Atelier Complete Chronicles in that it's a compilation of almost all the series character artworks and special event CGs. It has a staff interview section as well but it's probably not intended to be the AT equivalent to the Atelier Complete Chronicles in that it doesn't have character design histories nor does it have all that many illustrator comments if any at all and very little info. Just art works.

114 and 117 are now done, too. (Except for the Infel Breeze in 117, I'm leaving that for later. The pun is with jimejime=humid and hitori jime=monopolizing, because you should hog the soba when it's sticky outside.) Sorry, I've been distracted by concerns that are less awesome than Ar tonelico lately. This is less time-consuming than I remember, so I'll try to keep up the pace after this weekend.

I have been trying to work on another big AT-related project, but I'm not sure how it'll pan out since it hinges on getting other people to agree with me. Maybe this weekend I'll read FCS1 so I can actually start on that...

>>7547914
Nice, I thought you had stopped doing those altogether.

>>7547968
Is there anything related to that image? Or anything similar.

>>7547996
Not really, it's just a random Nagi picture from the AT3 artbook that someone decided to color.

>>7548073
>白シャツはロマン
I support this statement wholeheartedly.

>>7547914

Awesome. I hope all is well since you've been MIA for a while. If you need any help with this project then I'd gladly help though I doubt I can really help much with anything...

Since I don't have an account on the wiki I'd suggest editing http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere when you get a chance since it doesn't link to the new ones.

>I can kind of see Sincere having it, but how did you get that much money, Soraneko?

>Don't underestimate what I can make as a popular mascot girl and from wages from our customers.

It appears Luca is contagious.

>>7549025
Skycat was never a good girl.

>>7549029

She was solely dedicated to Luca though. Or so I thought, at least.

>>7549068

Luca must have took advantage of that dedication, and tricked her into joining up for customers that want 3P treatments.

>>7549168

But surely her cosmosphere can accommodate such things? I didn't think she was whoring herself out in the real world too though it's not surprising.

>>7549168
>>7550989
I'm sorry, but has Luca even engaged in sexual intercourse? Oh, that’s right. She hasn't even made contact with a man outside of dive therapy. In fact, it’s only therapy involving fields for soothing. Does not having a cliche tsundere personality make you a slut? Is that what you’re saying? Because if you’re saying that I can assure you that you’re wrong. Why would you make this topic when the game is already finished and we know for certain she is pure? Luca is a holy maiden now and she was been the purest maiden in Metafalss? Luca has to go up against one of the sluttiest reyvateils in Ar Ciel who just happened to have a lead because she was praying on Croix's innocence. But you know what? Cloche is still a whore. Luca is the best heroine in all three games, she has the best songs. Luca has already won Croix over, she would have done it sooner if it wasn't for her tragedy with her sister throwing her for a mental loop. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Luca is proven a better waifu than any other in AT2. Cloche tries to latch on to anyone who would have shown her a different and free life. Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I’m fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you’re the only guy making all these anti-Luca topics because you’re a faggot hater who doesn’t like a heroine because they’re canonically pure. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking idiots on the board, like I give a fuck. It’s so easy to spot out your threads now, you’re a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don’t you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That’s just you, you’re always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

>>7551011
You know, as much as I like Luca this copypasta is starting to get stale and boring.
pls stop pls

Dive therapy is a metaphor for prostitution. Luca is a slut. End of story.

Why is everyone getting so pissy about Luca being a slut? Who gives a shit?

>>7551011
I feel bad for writing Meiya pasta when I see them being misused.

>>7551761
Well, personally I don't. I usually don't like sluts that much, but the archetype of the normally manipulative whore-ish character that the protagonist manages to have a pure relationship with against all odds I always kind of liked, so Luca is okay because she kind of fits that.

>>7551761

The masochists want to defend their sl- waifu.

>>7552054
You must be pretty masochistic yourself, being wrong all the time and trying to defend yourself.

>>7552063

How exactly am I wrong, good sir? I'm entitled to think whatever I want about Luca and her activities, as are you. If you don't believe she's a slut then good for you.

>>7551011
>>7551719
>>7552357

Does anyone have a picture of Luca's "disappointed / annoyed" artwork during talk events?
Slap on a "Not this shit again" caption and it'd be perfect.

>>7547968
I got discouraged because I was having issues with my conversion script, but it's pretty much fixed for recent issues, so I should be back to somewhat more regular updates, modulo unexpected distractions. I'll be out this weekend, but aside from that I'll be trying to catch up on back issues.

I went back and did Hama's Dojo for issue 88 tonight (plus added a bunch of poll tables for old Survey Brigades, but that's less interesting).

Man, when Saki sings EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE/.,that's just the best thing ever.

>>7552508

I think you're mistaking Saki for Akiko Shikata. Because of Saki we got a 'waste' of a hymmnnos with EXEC_EP=NOVA/. .. fucking moeblobs.

>>7553155
Get out.

EP=NOVA is amazing and I'll fucking kill anyone who disagrees with me.

>>7553155
KENKA WA YA~ME~TE~ MOTHERFUCKER

>Atelier Meruru: Alchemist of Arland 3: 82,585 NEW

Was that a good sales ?

>>7553193
>>7553321

This. Holy shit, I don't care how moeblob the song is, it's amazing

It's a bonus for cat people too, because it's like A Day In The Life Of A Cat-Lover: The Song

>>7553350
I think it's a little higher than Totori's week 1 sales.

>>7553350
>>7553366
Considering Totori was around the 50k and Rorona on the 40ks, then, yes, they're actually fantastic sales.

>>7553366
30k is significant for niche games.

>>7553350
IIRC, Meruru nabbed the top sales spot for the week it was launched and it was a mid-week launch so that's probably around 3-4 day's of sales. I'd say those are great sales figures.

Name one Pokemon better than Mir. You can't.

>>7553441
Nono, that's wrong. Name one anything better than Mir. You can't.
...well, maybe smiling Mir, but that really depends on your preferences.

>>7553441
Shiny Mir

>>7553193

It's certainly not my favorite hymn by a long shot, but I appreciate that they decided to do something crazy and different for that one. It's that same desire that gave us DESPEDIA and CUTYPUMP.

And you have to admit, it was pretty funny for them to build up the "OH SHIT HYMN INCOMING THINGS ARE GONNA GETEPIC" feeling only to lead into a cutsey happy song. Though it would have been a *hell* of a lot funnier if the normal battle music wasn't also very cutsey and happy (seriously, I toally love the idea behind the AT3 normal battle music, but in practice the music it produces isn't all that good compared to the other games' battle music.)

>>7553588
>seriously, I toally love the idea behind the AT3 normal battle music, but in practice the music it produces isn't all that good compared to the other games' battle music
AT3's music on the whole was like that too, in my opinion. A bit too much experimentation and different ideas drawing back on the solid, strong hits the songs in the first two games were. While the soundtrack is definitely good, I would have to unfortunately rank it as my least favourite AT soundtrack.

>Hello,

>We're writing about the order you placed on March 31 2011 (Order# 102-9066833-8300229). Unfortunately, the release date for the item(s) listed below has changed, and we need to provide you with a new delivery estimate based on the new release date:

> Gust, Ryou Nagi "Ar Tonelico Visual Book"
> Estimated arrival date: January 13 2012 - January 17 2012
>January 13 2012 - January 17 2012

>>7553731
>Will be gone to Hong Kong til the end of the year
>AT book pushed to arrive when I get back
For me, everything went better than expected.

>>7553731
>2012

>>7553193
>>7553321

I respect your opinions, good sirs, but please note the "'waste'" I put. I honestly don't mind the song, it's decent and all but.. it's just not the same. There's a limited number of tracks for Akiko Shikata to perform and what could have been an orgasmic track like Arphage turns out to be EXEC_EP=NOVA/. which makes me sad. I still utterly detest Saki though.

>>7553731

Hmm, I have no email yet. I ordered from Amazon UK the day it went up but if that's really true.. urgh. The Atelier book was pushed back like 2 months or so but pushing back the AT book by half a year is taking the piss quite a bit..

Capturing all the IPDs is such a pain. Getting them all to join the fan club is even more so.

Why do I have to be such a perfectionist?

>>7553837
Because you're ONE OF US

>>7553837
This.
Am I the only one who feel that AT2's story line kinda rushed, so they add more things to expand the game?

>>7553842
Phase 1 did feel rushed but I find the later phases alright

>>7553731

Dear /jp/,

I found this neat shop that sells Ar Tonelico 3 and Hyperdimension for a pretty low price of £40.

Should I buy both games at this price. 64$ or 44€

As in they together cost that much. Yes or no?

Oh shit, there's gonna be a 4th Ar Tonelico?

>>7554997
No, people are just speculating.

>>7553755
Indeed, Arphage and Ec Tisia induces orgasms every time I hear them.

>>7554716
Well I think you should get Ar Tonelico 3 no matter what, but you should only really get Neptunia if you really want it, because in my opinion Neptunia was pretty mediocre. But, yeah. That's about it.

>>7554716

Assuming they're not used then you'd be extremely silly not to, to be honest. AT3 and Neptunia average around £30-40 still so you're saving quite a lot of money in that regard. Once your done with Neptunia you can always just sell it for £25-30 if you don't like it.

Also >>7553755 here, still no email.. anyone else had one? Not really sure what to think yet.

>>7556200
I got an email, and Amazon lists both the AT book and the Monster Hunter book (which was going to come out at the same time, last I checked) at January 2012.
But then Siliconera says the MH book comes out in August, so I don't even fucking know anymore.

>>7556211

Well I'm still seeing this:

Ar Tonelico Visual Book [Paperback]
Ryou Nagi (Artist), Gust (Author)
RRP: £29.99
Price: £20.99
You Save: £9.00 (30%)
>Usually dispatched within 1 to 3 weeks.

Maybe they're just being slow about it on the UK site for some reason..

Also..

>Actually, I have a question for you? We’re going to release the next game in the Atelier series, Totori, in the fall. If we released the next one in March, don’t you think it would be too soon?

Possible Meruru in March if enough people say no? Who knows.

You thought it was bad NIS America has less than ten employees? Apparently Gust, the company in Japan that actually makes all these games, has less than 15 employees themselves.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/06/30/our-fan-powered-interview-with-nis-americas-president-part-1

>>7557088
I'm not sure what to think about that.

My impressions after reading the Atelier Chronicles staff interviews were that there were a fair number of people. Certainly not in the hundreds but I would had thought they had more than just 15.

If that is the case that they only have ~15 permanent staff, hats off to them for producing such good games over the years.

>>7557088

The reason Gust only has 15 employees is that they sub-contract everything. For example, Mel is not a permanent Gust employee - I'm not even sure Ken Nakagawa is. They are using Sony's sample PS3 PhyreEngine graphics engine, which is one of the reason the games have such graphical deficiencies.

The core of a lot of game studios is very small, and they only hire part-time/contractors when a game is moving from prototype to production. Far more than 15 people work on each Gust title.

The kind of giant studios you read about in gaming "journalism" either need to produce massive hit after massive hit, or are owned by a publisher.

concept art
fucking lold

>>7557554
Yeah, indeed, they do outsource a whole lot of things (I mean, just look at the credits at the end of each GUST game), however, that's just for things like artwork and perhaps animations. I don't think Ken Nakagawa isn't a permanent GUST employee- I mean, he -is- part of the GUST Sound Team for a reason.

Not to mention the work such as programming, storyline and gameplay is usually handled in-house, which means that, yes, those 15 people usually take most of the work. Not to say that having a small team is bad at all- it allows GUST to stay alive with small, self-published projects and, usually, the whole staff remains more connected thanks to that.

It's fairly interesting to read up on why GUST actually breaks up the Atelier 'franchise' into self-contained sub-series. It helps them to achieve both a continuity of the series as a whole, and allows them to experiment and play around with new ideas without having to keep the baggage of past incarnations.

>>7557554
Mel was approached to do the character artwork for the Arland series primarily because his artwork appeals to both male and female demographics. Believe it or not, the Atelier series actually has a sizable female fanbase and seeing how the Arland series, was supposed to go back to the roots of the Atelier series gameplay, it was deemed to be important that the game needs to appeal to both demographics. The MC was even proposed to be a male, but was left as a female lead as the Atelier series started off with female leads.

Even though they are using the sample 3D engine for the Arland series, GUST has made a pretty impressive first attempt with 3D graphics with Rorona. With Totori and Meruru's improvements and solidification of translating 2D artwork into 3D models, I honestly can't fault the visuals. Sure, it's no hyper realistic graphics with plenty of lighting and other effects, but it does the job very well without suffering from the flaws in attempting to build your own engine from scratch with insufficient resources such as poor frame rate optimisations or animation bugs etc...

Just finished default ending in AT2 does the Luca-Cloche sisterly chatter ending scene only appear in Cocona's ending? It was awesome

>>7558529
>It helps them to achieve both a continuity of the series as a whole, and allows them to experiment and play around with new ideas without having to keep the baggage of past incarnations.
This actually means, "it allows them to make slightly different games and get people to buy each one because of the atelier brand anyways"
same thing as Final Fantasy

>We tried to do so and tried to convince Sony, but unfortunately our graphics were not up to par.
Wow, Sony...

>>7558986
>slightly different games
>slightly
That,s the key. I love my alchemy games but if it stays the same for ~10 games it'd probably get stale/the developer would fuck up something in the middle so I like it that they try different things every time. Just keep alchemy as the main part of the game and I'm happy.

oh wow

>>7540000
is there any more of this? I know there's one for the Claire/Spica one at the OP but I was wondering if the other drama CDs have their own albums as well.

>>7559042
wow, older Cocona is naise

>>7554716
NOOOOOOOOOOO

Fuck why did I think about it now it's gone!

They were both new now Hyperdimension is gone only preowned for 20 pounds ;_;

FUCK YOU WORLD!

>>7559042
Aoto is gonna die, Cocona is going to channel Cloche's songs by Infel Pira up his ass.

>>7559086
I feel so sorry for you

Speaking of AT2, Trip Flash has got to be the best bath powder, ever. (Shortly followed by Planetaveil and Softly Sexy)

>>7559042
Am I the only one who thought he was talking about Pippins until someone else explained it?

>>7559042
Also this

>>7559042
>prinny.jpg

Durr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KsGf3EzzGc

>>7559619
Yeah, that bit was pretty amusing.

>>7559638
She doesn't say Play more J-RPGs in japanese though

>>7558282
>I don't think Ken Nakagawa isn't a permanent GUST employee- I mean, he -is- part of the GUST Sound Team for a reason.
Not anymore!
http://vgmdb.net/db/covers-full.php?id=107203

Oh man, Atelier Meruru's Visual Art Book CD has a remixed version of Nefertiti. You know, that kickass song from Mana Khemia.

May GUST be hinting at something?!

>>7560571

I think most people would love to see another title, especially with how Meruru turned out, but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Where's the best place to find Demon-type enemies i AT2? I'm currently at phase 5 right before the last boss and am trying to get my last IPD into the fan club but I can't seem t find enough Demon type enemies to do that

>>7560571
Highly doubt it. GUST hasn't gone back to a series once it's been shelved. Most likely they'll do something similar, but it won't be a Mana Khemia.

>>7561404
Tried the Enna Ruins?

http://asmodean.reverse.net/pages/ar2bugfix.html

This raki bugfix seems to be able to patch up the PS2 ISO of the game which can then be burned and played with a real PS2 if anybody's interested

>>7561416
Nothing in the palace ruins but I found enough of them at the underground dungeon. Thanks!

Now after all the IPDs are in the fan club it's time for the binaty field...

>>7561443
Awesome

>>7561443
The patch works perfectly fine with the standard ISO. Not sure if it's working with the full jap voice patch version since I'll need to re-patch from scratch and double-check as my first patched up copy still hit the bug. Worst comes to worse, I'll just swap discs when I want to beat down Raki for my darn Gallery unlocks.

Completed AT3 just now. Good times spent.

Moving on to Rorona. God I want to bully rorona so hard. And pat her on the head. Such mixed feelings.

>>7562092
Do tell after you've checked. I'm interested as if it doesn't work with the undub copy I'll have to download the standard ISO

>>7561443
Wait, isn't this one the same one that comes with the torrent pack

>>7562187
Doesn't that one only works with the emulator? (as in, it patches the emulator, not the ISO)

>>7562197
I dunno, but both ones are exactly the same, it did patch the iso with something though

Well it worked, fought Reki on my PS2 and it didn't crash on the 3rd phase.

>>7562292
with undub?

wait, 3rd phase? Doesn't the glitch only appear in the 5th phase fight?

Man, Meruru's OST is mediocre at best.

...Or so I thought, as I proceeded to listen to the first Disc.

>Meruru mere!

>Meruru mere!

>Merumerumerumerume~!

Oh, okay-

But then, Disc 3 kicked in.

FUCK YEAH YOU'RE almost, as Totori still has a better soundtrack THE BEST OST EVER

>>7562344
Yeah, undub, and yeah, 5th, my bad, the battle lasted 6 phases

>>7562373
Awesome, thanks!

>>7562373
Being able to take your time and kick Raki where the sun don't shine is so much better than going 'OMG! Have to exploit the blue magic timings' or 2 phase Replakia burst.


Atelier Meruru Premium Box set... Tempting but.... I'll have to say no... As much as the delicious box art tempts me, I won't be able to enjoy the game properly with my mastery of Japanese and I can't afford it with respect to that.

>>7562405
Not using replakia is fun indeed, and guard ++++ is fucking awesome.

>>7562413
Playing a low level no-equipment upgrade run makes Guard++/++ nigh mandatory. Taking a single un-guarded hit could potentially KO the reyvateil and just adds a little spice to the fight.

That said and done, running healing songs and just loading up on all the +damage you can get is also ludicrous in how many numbers pop out. For even more fun, use the not-Shurelia song that Jacquli has for and extra hits and watch the damage fly.

>>7562368
2-4 week waiting time for the Meruru OST

orz

>>7562423
Worth it.

Worth every single second of it.

Except the Disc 2, but eh, background/enviorment music isn't exactly standout.

Also, expect remixes rearrangements. Everywhere.

On the plus side, hearing some songs from Rorona and Totori remastered was a surprisingly sweet experience.

>>7562428
I guess I'll expand my collection and grab all three Arland OSTs at the same time though...

my poor bank balance... and I need to make more room for all the GUST discs I'm collecting. Sheesh

Goddammit GUST, I can't take so much awesome at once!

>>Cadena ~Atelier Series Jazz Arrange Album Feat. Mami Horie Vol.1~

Why am I so slow.

http://www.gamemp3s.net/

>>7562464
I also got this alongside Meruru's OST.

Pretty damn nice, actually. But really, the emphasis in the name should be "Jazz". That's exactly what it is.

>>7562470
Not sure what to think of that. Some Jazz style remixes go a little too heavy on the Jazz as if they need to prove that it's not just any other remix.

And dear lord, this thread is almost at the auto-sage point already

>>7562482
It's just...Jazz. Remixed Arland OPs with some Engrish lyrics thrown into the mix and, you know, jazz.

Alright, for the guys that wanted to hear how >>7562464 sounds like, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmDDpQhra8U

It's still processing, though.

>>7562689
>Upload it without checking on YouTube to see if there was another video

Ah, whatever.

New thread:

>>7563278
>>7563278