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Does a psychologist has to be perfectly mentally healthy?
I want to study psychology but I think I'm not what most people would consider normal.
I don't know whether I'm crazy though

inb4 autism

Misanthropy isn't a mental disorder, so none.

I have no idea what will become of me in 10 years. I don't even know what will happen next week.

>>7535237
I think that before you graduate, you need to be psychoanalyzed first. I don't know if they won't give you the title if you're crazy enough.

>>7535229
I have CFS. It's just bad enough that I feel like shit, but not enough to get any money out of it.

>>7535237
Most psychologists I have been to seemed to not really be all that normal themselves.
I think it's just something that comes naturally if you are around fucked up people a lot.

>>7535247
Why? Do your parents want you out of the house?

>>7535260
They will. The education isn't the problem, it's getting clients afterward.
If you can act as a fairly functional human being, you may get some patients. If you act batshit crazy, no one is going to think you can solve their problems if you can't solve your own.

>>7535237
>perfectly mentally healthy
that thing doesn't exists, everyone is fucked up of the head

I've recently went to the clinic and was prescribed celexa and to see a specialist in mental issues.

>>7535271
>house
Good one.

>>7535242
Aiming for Grand Kaiser of Autism and Butt-frustration.

I am a psychologist.
>>7535237
>Does a psychologist has to be perfectly mentally healthy?
Not really. Even if you are healthy at the beginning, you will get shitload of problems later.
It's a very emotionally intrusive job.
Plus, half of the people that study psychology have plenty of problems with their head. Me included

>>7535276
I don't understand the standars of the "normal" people.

I went to the psychologist the other week, and he told me to get to parties and search for girls and shit. I don't understand why these must be the "correct" actions.

I suffer from a fairly severe serotonin imbalance that causes depression. I'm on antidepressants. I still have bouts of melancholy but for the most part I feel so much better than I did before meds.

>>7535285
Holy shit you need to get that prescribed.

>>7535291
In what school of the psychology do you want to work?

Depression plus avoidant, schizoid, and obsessive-compulsive personality disorders. Plus some narcissism mixed in.
And out of diagnosis, I have a huge unfulfilled need for affection, i.e. roneriness.

>>7535291
Oh cool can you maybe give me some more advices?
I'm not sure yet whether I would prefer clinical or experimental psychology.
Could you give me a summary of both?

Sure I could just google all that stuff but talking with people from /jp/ is much more fun

>>7535314
Damn dude. What are you doing to fix these things? Because only taking meds won't help you at all.

>>7535315
He's one of those ';people ruining /jp/'; everybody is talking about.

>>7535315
Seconded.

I saw a psychologist because of mental issues. It was recommended by my university (at which I have since dropped out.) She helped me get rid of this voice inside my head that told me to kill myself for being a failure at life every minute of every day and condemned everything I did.

I want it back.

I pretty much collect mental issues. I delight in them. However, there is one I'd rather not have: laziness.

>>7535337
How?

And why do you want it back?

>>7535337
How edgy.

>>7535291
I have watched psychology classes and this guy is right. I guess studying your inner demons helps you fight them more effectively.

Also, I believe this thread calls for Yume Nikki images.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avoidant_personality_disorder#Signs_and_symptoms
Most here probably have this.

>>7535328
The AvPD I'm dealing with by thrusting myself into social situations. The other three I consider my true personality.
Now, the depression+roneriness is killing me, I can't even study, it feels so pointless... and I recently lost my only two friends, so that's that.
But I'm your average 'aspie' /jp/-er, really.

>>7535314

Well, for what it's worth, just the fact that you are aware of your problems shows that you have the capacity for rehabilitation. It's my opinion that the only people beyond help are the ones who think the problem is with the rest of the world and not themselves. Meds and therapy would probably work wonders for you.

>>7535353
Can't we share?

>>7535355
This one.

>>7535357
Don't worry, we will always be your friends.

>>7535357
You are just too socially inept to ask. Ryougi shiki-gained the mystic eyes of death perception when her male personality died, as well as her almost dying, from getting hit by a car and the following coma.

>>7535314
Thanks dude, I just self-diagnosed myself with the same problems.

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. I had it since I was 17 (21 now). It was kind of minor, and it didn't really bother my daily life much, but now it's getting to the point where enough is enough.

I made a schedule to see a psychologist soon.

>>7535357
Thrusting yourself in these kind of events won't help you at all. Every change must be done slowly.
But mainly, you have two problems that needs to be fixed. Depression and roneriness. Search for help for these, man.

And no, I'm not implying that roneriness is cured by a romantic or sexual partner.

>>7535384
Good luck with that, men. I wish you the best.

>>7535382
If not sarcasm: It's always good to help people self-diagnose. But make sure to see a shrink to get yourself properly diagnosed. You could even get monies from the state!
If sarcasm: Want to ask my fucking therapist or what?

>>7535313
Humanistic psychology, I guess. I also dabble a little into existentialism, since Frankl was awesome and Logotherapy is awesome.
You don't really have to follow one and only school for private psychological practice. It's mostly about taking the stuff you like and going with it.
>>7535315
Uuuuh. I'm not entirely sure how education in your country and uni/college/whatever they call it works, but you are going to learn the basics of both before deciding.
Also, experimental psychology is hardly a proper school at this point and intermingles with lots of stuff.

Excuse me for being slow, I don't usually have any sort of serious discussions on 4chan.

I think I have a bit of many things, I think about things that aren't normal, no one suspects anything, though.

My acquaintances think I'm reckless and odd, but I get along fine with everyone.

in 10 years I'll be probably dead.

Whatever your problem is, always remember that you're equipped with your imagination. Don't be afraid to use it. It's actually the main source of treatment, along with meds.

>>7535406
>It's mostly about taking the stuff you like and going with it.
So you can do whatever you want to do to help the patient, if that's on the "aproved" list of psychology?
Cool men, although I'm still a little disappointed, because I wanted to experiment strange kinds of therapies. .

>>7535407
By suicide?

>>7535422
possibly.

>>7535418
Pretty much, yes. And it's better to be well rounded, than a pro in one school only, in my opinion.
What do you consider "strange"?

>>7535349
I didn't even notice it was there. Every time I fucked up anything I will start giving myself an endless amount of shit over it and not quit for days. If I forgot about it I would mentally slap myself to remind myself that I was a failure.

>>7535351
I'm so edgy that I can chop steak with my bare hands.

But actually, that's the case. Back then I felt like I had purpose and direction. Now I feel like I wouldn't care if I died tomorrow. I don't like it.

Depression; faced the absurd at the age of 15, much like everyone else. It seemed to hit me pretty hard though. I'm better now, not the same as before, but in acceptance of facts.

In 10 years I'll be in the army I think. Joining french foreing legion after a few - five or so - years, I'm currently queued for afghanistan tour.

If I ever go back to starving myself for no good reason, looping one sentence in my head over and over again for weeks or seeing cats in my peripheral vision constantly I will assume there might be a problem and go seek help.

Fortunately these have all been much less of an issue for the last couple months, so as far as I'm concerned I'm as sane as sane can be.

I've had bad OCD and OCPD since I was 9 or 10.
Other than that I have bad facial twitches, schizoid personality, and hypersomnia/insomnia swings.

My parents took me to a social worker and while talking to her i kinda.. cried.. Now im gonna have to go to a psychologist and take meds.. I dont really want to because i see my mother suffering with these pills and shit, and she gets fucked up if she doesn't take them, im kinda sacred.

>>7535462
In ten years I'm hoping to still be in college.

>>7535237
Actually, it's something of a running joke in the academic world that all psychologists are mentally ill, which is why they became psychologists.

>>7535470
That's not the only reason for me though

I just got terrible social skills? That isn't a mental issue though I think.

Got tons of self-confidence, I love other people, and I'm feeling happy 24/7. I'm just the quietest guy you'll ever meet.

>>7535346
why, laziness is a great thing.

...fucking captcha, what a chore...

>>7535490
I wish you would be quiet here too

That I'm perfectly healthy.

>>7535505
ice burn

>>7535355
I think i have this and agoraphobia. I get really dizzy,light headed ,my throat starts to feel tight and my stomach starts to hurt when i think about driving,going to random places or in a bus and getting a job or even doing a application. I do have friends and hang out with them because i know who they are and that they like me.

I must be autistic.

Or underage.

It's probably both honestly.

Most probably.
I went to a psychologist before for suicidal thoughts, but only on the behest of my parents. I only went twice though, since it was expensive.

Still, though, regardless of any "personality disorder" I may have, from AvPD to narcissism, I can't help but feel that it's part of who I am, disorder or not. All of my memories of ever being with others have stemmed from my personality, and to get rid of certain aspects of it because they're a "disorder" seems too cruel.

Sure, I might end up killing myself in 2 years, but I'll still be thankful for the memories and experiences I could have only gained from how I am.

schizoid

>>7535437
Strange... something that a lot of psychologists don't want to do; for example:
-tell the patient what he must do.
-Take him to parks, to talk like friends.
-Sessions of 4-6 hours. Press them more than what I should.

I'll be completely honest: I discovered that I only want to do this because I'm utterly ronery. What a selfish creature I am.

>>7535546
You should check out the Passion for your Sake comic pool that's up on Danbooru.

>>7535546
Men, I don't have a lot against suicide. But don't decide anything when you're depressed. Wait until you're stoic, and decide if you still want to commit suicide. What will happen to your parents, etc.

>>7535559
It's ok, everything man does is ultimately selfish one way or another. In that aspect, you're normal.

By the way, use this thread, talk to /jp/ instead. What the hell, we might figure something out.

>>7535559
I-I would want to make friends with my patients if I like them....
It's weird, I find "unnormal" people more interesting and friendly than normal people.
Thene again I would probally find something likeable and "unnormal" in every person if they would let me

>>7535559
You should be aware that it's best to maintain a certain degree of emotional distance from your patients.

Autism, but aside from causing vehement hatred of MMOs, it doesn't really affect me much.

Don't any of you feel pathetic right after you submit your angst-filled posts on /jp/? Because I do.

Apparently I had honest-to-god Asperger's back when I was 4, but now I'm A-OK, thanks to people's love and compassion.

We all have problems, but you should not share them on /jp/.

>>7535579
I know what you mean, but we are all anon here and understand each other so I don't mind it and sometimes I even feel better

>>7535579
It's ok, we all have to take it out somewhere. If anything, post some Madotsuki to make up for it.

>>7535579
>>7535585
Personally, I prefer posts about people wanting to die on the front page to the Saten, anime, learnjapanese, and other such nonsense.

>>7535572
Still, I have a problem, and it's that I can't make my mind in almost anything relative to the moral, and this is the main scenery that interests me.

I don't know why people shouldn't commit suicide. The "life is precious" argument seems absurd to me.
I don't know what I should tell to a kid that's being bullied. In one hand, he shouldn't be violent, and use the "pacific" way. But in the other hand, they won't respect you until you do something. I can't decide what's better.

>>7535574
You summed it pretty well.

>>7535591
I agree, if anything, that's part of "Otaku Culture" too.

>>7535568
I'm not really depressed, just listless.

I'm stuck in a rut and each option to get out of it just doesn't appeal to me. And there's a storm approaching that will undoubtedly flood my little hole, causing me to drown unless I choose an option to get out of the hole. But because none appeal to me, for various reasons, I just sit here.

I don't want to get a job, but I need money to stay alive. And, really, the benefits of staying alive are too vague to seriously weigh the pros and cons of. Perhaps someday something will click, but as it is, once the small amount of money I have left is used up by my parents, I'll gash open my throat with a steak knife.

And until then, I'm gonna take it easy and enjoy myself with simple pleasures, like refreshing image boards, or reading.

>>7535588
>>7535590
>>7535591
Oh really? I guess I'm the sole exception then, because every time I complain about my life, I get like ten replies of anonymous making me feel like garbage. So there's really no use.

>>7535595
>The "life is precious" argument seems absurd
Because it is. If it were precious, the planet wouldn't be crawling with it.
>shouldn't be violent
Sadly, sometimes violence is the only thing some people understand.

>>7535576
You're right. My motivations on the psychology field maybe are fueled by these motives, but these can't be real actions, I guess.
>>7535579
What is pathetic is defined by the opinion, not by a definition based on the nature of the human mind. Therefore thinking rationally that you're pathetic is absurd..

>>7535595
You know, I had the same thought some time ago. I found out that neither upholding nor defying a moral code has any ultimate meaning, so it's more fun to go with the nicer option and make the best of it.

>>7535618
This.
Life in this world may seem cruel and pointless, but why not just make the best out of it if nothing matters anyways?

>>7535604
The official party line is that /jp/ hates blog shit. This is to discourage people from turning /jp/ into /r9k2/ because that would be super shitty. On the other hand, if you do, you shouldn't feel crushed about it.

>>7535607
There's already a theory that says that life is a permanent struggle,and if this is a absolute truth, then everything is fine, and therefore, beautiful.
"God's in his heaven, all is right with the world" sums it up perfectly.
>>7535618
The sad part for me is that I don't want to submit to my subjectivity. I still think that there's a base to the moral.
Until now, what I have only found is that every moral and law is a generalization of the common subjectivities. I don't want to die, so no one can kill.

Don't do to the other what you don't want others to do to you. Tolerance. It's all that I can think.

>>7535617
>What is pathetic is defined by the opinion
>thinking rationally that you're pathetic is absurd

What? I have set standards for the person I want to be. To not meet them is to be pathetic. I have no idea what you're saying to disprove this.

>>7535633
>The official party line is that /jp/ hates blog shit.

Thanks for breaking it down for me. Now I at least have a name for this bullshit I (and other people) do.

>>7535635
Know your limits. It's pointless to think yourself pathetic if you're setting impossible goals. Self acceptance is better than self improvement.

>>7535635
Think about the kind of person that you want to be, and you'll see that is a person resembled as an ideal in the society. The society imposed these ideals. That's why we wanted beautiful girls and a peaceful life when we were kids.

What I want to say is that what you consider pathetic is not your own definition, it's something that you learned from experiences.

Everything we know has been learned by a social construct. That is, the opinion and the culture.

>>7535647

Different guy, but sometimes accepting yourself isn't always best. There are things about myself that I want to and should get rid of. They shouldn't just grow into something terrible. But it shouldn't be anything to worry about too much, admittedly.

Why must we work our whole life,you only live once and we waste it doing meaningless things, once you die its over. Society makes us do these things because it is "normal" to them. they all just have closed minds, they dont see the real truth. that we are all worker bees wasting our lives for some government. maybe one day i can move away form earth with its morals and retarded closed mined judgement. If a man is different or try to get people to think differently , kill him. its never changed, its just glossed over. fuck, if you haven't noticed our government is still fueled by religion, its fucking retarded. In high school the teachers couldn't talk about religion, which makes sense, but why dose our government fight over the most retarded shit? Anything religion should not be in the government or morals of a country.

>>7535647
I differ, since I think that these kind of attitudes leads nowhere. I would rather say that we improve ourselves to a realistic goal.

>>7535633
I think there is a fine line between psychology discussion and blogshit. Since it's a subject matter that's literally inside your own head, you're bound to refer to yourself sooner or later.

>>7535647
"Don't be stupid." "Stop being lame." "Take it easy." "Try to be more articulate." "Cry less." "Think about something else." "Cease emotional dependence on all people forever." "Resist bad vibratons." "Always second-guess everything; fuck confidence." "Be better."

Are these really impossible goals? Apparently, yes, for the most part.

>>7535676
Pressuring yourself for self-improvement leads nowhere either. It's something you have to relax in order to achieve. I think you have to first reach a point where you revel in your own shittyness, get bored of it and then move on.

>>7535656
>that is a person resembled as an ideal in the society.
>That's why we wanted beautiful girls when we were kids.

Yeah, I don't think you're on my wavelength.

>>7535700
Yep.

I wish i lived in the old days were having depression or being insane, gave you a chance in being a dictator by yelling out crazy stuff people never thought of. I wish born to late..

>>7535718
Hitler also had a shitty life. His book, Mein Kampf, is almost a drama. Sad tears of rage everywhere.

>>7535656
The "society" you keep blaming is not an homogenous group. You too are "the society". You are as important as anyone else. If that means nobody is important, that's a good start too, you can start setting your own ideals more easily that way.

Wrote a post, that later needed to be divided in two seperate posts in order to go through.
Posts about how I got diagnosed, and why. Also what I feel about it, and how it have mattered/not mattered.
But it looks like a mess, and rather stands out if compared to the rest of the thread, so, I believe I will refrain from posting it.

>>7535688
Jesus, that's a lot of fucking goals. Mine is "Survive."

Who cares if you're lame or cry a lot? What's it matter if you get a bad feeling and go for it anyway?

>>7535792
Give it a shot, this thread's off the frontpage now anyway.

So how do you guys deal with talking to people? I can never do more than stutter a few words unless I've been around them for 2+ months, and even then it's really short and awkward conversations.

>>7535816
Alright. Here goes.

Man you all got issues and stuff.

>>7535830
I'm not troubled by small talk. I just turn the brain off and let the mouth run.

I bet a majority of you have Borderline Personality Disorder

>mental issues
I would argue I have few issues, aside from depression and a slight addiction coupled with weak OCD tendencies.

But if we are speaking of mental "disorders", then I apparently have a few.
Was never my idea, wasn't too fond of it, and if it weren't for the chance of additional funding/welfare, then I still would have thought it all to have been unnecessary.
But after having failed college, twice, they got together and spoke with a bunch of people, got my old folks involved, and eventually, I got one of those evaluations, free of charge, etc etc, and well, given the help they provided and it being free, the assumption of it being a good idea went through.
It became a long process, but no matter the case, now there are some highly educated psychologists with lots of experience who argues that I have some kind of asperger's within the high functioning autism spectrum. But apparently mine isn't the most common kind, but they say that it is without doubt within that spectrum, and is very close to what would be considered asperger's.
They also said that I have social anxiety disorder, which caught some off guard as I have shown almost none of the commonly thought of criteria, in how I have, during my time of actually going outside for school and doing stuff, as opposed to staying at home and flunking, I have socialized just fine. The problem apparently being how I think and feel about these meetings. They said that due to the anxiety, I have become more reseptive for tiny social clues of which some others might miss. This detail might also be part of the reason as to why the social part of the asperger's evaluation came off as so "normal". Another scenario possibly being how that part of the spectra never swayed that much from the most common in the first place.

>>7535801
That's one way to simplify it all.

Is it that difficult to figure out how bad feelings can hinder somebody's "survival"?

>>7535853
No matter the case though, this active, subconcious search for social details drains lots and lots of energy, and the anxiety covering it all can easily make me feel awful over any kinds of small signs of details I felt came out "wrong" in the end. But I can still behave until I am alone, its not until everything is "alright" that I can feel awful about what might have happened before. Or rather, I do feel awful in the meantime as well, but then its kept on the inside.


They talked about a few other things as well, and there was that OCD thing.
It was never my idea to get so worked up with all of this though, and I rarely (read as in almost ever.) feels the need to bring it up as if it would matter in any way. Especially with all the "self-diagnosed" people throwing asperger's around, and people not even knowing what it is in the first place.
And then again, most of what was said about the "disorders" wasn't exactly news to me either. I knew how I felt about social interraction and all that, and I knew my line of thinking differed slightly from others sometimes. In the end, I am essentially the same person, but with a few sheets of paper saying the same thing I am saying, so that certain authorities can be convinced of the same thing.
A)
"I sometimes feel awful after having done stuff together with others."
"Oh don't be silly, its not that bad."
B)
"Here, this paper claims I sometimes feel awful after having done stuff together with others."
"Oh, is that so. Then, do whatever."

Other than this, and the funds/welfare, I don't really see the point. I also, besides from the funds/welfare, don't see why I should convince someone that I have asperger's. Possibly if I end up missing a deadline of some kind, but wouldn't that be a pretty horrible excuse? Yeah, I thought so.

I have psychotic depression, but since I have gotten on medication I have lived a completely normal life. In fact my life is so normal I probably am not accepted here.

I've been depressed a lot but never gone to a psychologist because I have this extreme fear of appearing not normal. Which doesn't work because I am very awkward and it shows and that in turn makes me feel a lot of shame for not being normal and that makes me depressed. It's just one giant cycle.

>>7535902
Have you ever tried feeling happy about not being normal?

>>7535862
If survival is your only concern, you aren't really hindered by 'bad feelings'.
THoughts like 'I'm such a pussy' and 'how can I be this pathetic?' don't really occur.

It simplifies it to 'Am I still alive? Check.'

>>7535914
I used the wrong word there. It's not so much about being "normal" but being average.

1.Bipolar depression
2. Bulimia
3. Was raped
4. Tried killing myself few times
5. Sometimes I think how good it would be if my mother died.
6. Sociophobia

>>7535952
I've had sex with girls crazier than that. Suck it up.

>>7535939
Doesn't matter. Have you ever considered feeling happy about not being average?

>>7535952
You'll get over it all. Except for maybe the bipolar disorder. Might want to seek medication for that.

I fit the avoidant and schizoid personality disorders pretty well, the thing is when does is become a disorder and not just a shitty/unhealthy personality?
I think I can technically function in society all the same (well, obviously not that well since I don't speak with anyone, but I don't have irrational attacks that make me avoid things I should do or anything like that), but at the same time I don't think I'm really that healthy mentally speaking. So I've just been sucking it up mostly.

>>7535952
>Tried killing myself few times
lol you can't even kill yourself?

What a walking failure.

>>7535956
That doesn't make any sense. I've seen people like that. Happy despite who they are. They seem so delusional. Like they are pretending to be something they aren't. It could be just me that sees that though and they could be perfectly fine.

>>7535956
That doesn't make any sense. I've seen people like that. Happy despite who they are. They seem delusional. Like they are pretending to be something they aren't. It could be just me that sees that though and they could be perfectly fine.

>>7535914
Each time my psychologist tells me that I'm not normal, I smile, dunno exactly why. I suppose that I think not being normal is "cool".

>>7535972
>>7535979
Noone said you have to be vocal about it. And if it's "delusional", well it's time to delude yourself a bit and have fun with it.

>>7535229
>What mental issues do you have, /jp/?
aspergers, adhd, body dysmorphic disorder, bulimia (more or less cured though), social phobia, dermatillomania, trichotillomania, bunch of ridiculous phobias, a chronic aversion to capital letters. also en ex-hikkikomori, though i'm now in the middle of vacation so i only go out to walk dogs. wanted to get a job but failed.

also i think i'm posting this little list for the fourth time here, why do threads like this keep appearing? does /jp/ seem particulary mental or what? except its high concentration of autism and the need to be a little girl, of course.


>Have you went to a psychologist? If so, what did he tell you?
"i really think you should to go to a hospital. no, really."
repeat for half a year untill i gave in and went.

>What will be of you in 10 years?
don't wanna think about it. definitely some kind of a looser, still fapping to touhous. possibly a virgin. hopefully rich bitch, probably poor gurl. possibly still living with mother and a NEET. definitely not a little girl, which i regret.

>>7536017
Reported.

I've been diagnosed with mild depression and severe social anxiety. Taking Celexa at the moment.

>>7535916
What the hell. Survival is all about whether or not you are well.

Are you fine with yourself? Psychologically? How many of your emotional needs are being met? Biologically? How much basic human nourishment are you receiving?

Okay, you could simplify that with "am I alive?". But it's not enough information to go on with... Unless that really is just how much you care about. But who are you kidding? It isn't.

>>7535955
>I've had sex
>sex

get out of /jp/ now.

Must be nice to be insane. I mean you have sex, have good or even best friends, get atutism bucks, etc.

Or at least that's what I'm getting from this thread.

>What will be of you in 10 years
Most likely in prison.

I have autism.

>What will be of you in 10 years?

A man with autism. Like everyone here.

>ZUN!bar

>>7536037
Addendum: I've been trying to convince myself to go to Gensokyo for the past few months. I am not happy with how things are with myself or my environment. This is what I'm getting at, just in case you still don't understand. I would much rather be alive and happy than be sad and dead.

Aspergers (diagnosed), schizoid personality disorder.

Used to be depressed, but since I've stopped hanging around people, I'm doing much better.

>>7536063
>sad and dead

But if you're dead....

Paranoia.
I've never gone to a psychologist in about 10ish years. It was mostly to get me to continue going to school though so he didn't really check that.

I'll probably be in a painful, soul-crushing marriage with my current funjoshi girlfriend.

>>7536037
IT's certainly the most critical. There are other concerns in my life, but they aren't major and don't get much thought. I often can't do anything about them so I don't worry.

Why so testy?
I am who I am, and worrying overly about it is pointless.

>>7536062
That feel when you'll never do Marseille in the butt.

>>7536080
>I'll probably be in a painful, soul-crushing marriage with my current funjoshi girlfriend.

>>7536084
I'm out of reactions for you because people keep stealing mine. Either way, now my day is complete. See you tomorrow.

that feel when i post in a thread like this and forget to sage.

>>7536082
>Why so testy?
I spent like 30 mins trying to write something coherent and accessible from abstract concepts in my head. This is very frustrating to do

>>7536049
Being this guy >>7535853 >>7535864 I say the money part of it all is alot more hassle than it may seem, at least in my case.
I have to go to all these meetings, and have continious contacts with these professionals (read, psyoocologists, therapist, sociol something something people.) and if they somehow were to deem me as too "functional", and if not, no money anywhere.

The social thing is rather set in stone. Even if I hang out much, it seems to be fine as long as social interraction appears to exhaust me more than most other people, and that does appear to be the case and I don't really see that thing changing anyhow.
But where they to somehow get the idea that it doesn't drain that amount of energy, then things would be terminated.

And on another note on functionality, for another example.
Gave college another go, went so so. That is to say, it went really well, until it didn't go at all. That is I failed, but where it to succeed, it would have apparently meant that "These symptoms aren't grave enough to be a hinderance to me in terms of a normal life." and thus, disorders or not, no money.

In a sense, it stands between the money, and not really succeeding at doing anything.
Or descide to do something, succeed with it, and voila! "You are functional!" and there it ended.
Or at least this appears to be my case, I don't know if there are other more common policies. I also doubt it is a life long thing, but I am not sure on that part.

Just general weirdness, relatively sane and people like me. (or rather, when I saw people) I just had extreme trouble getting into college or getting a job where I am, so I gave up and just accepted the NEET life. I get depressed about doing nothing all day, though. I saw this pic a while ago and got scared.

>>7536099
>trying to write something coherent and accessible from abstract concepts in my head
I know that fucking feel. Maybe it's a mental issue too.

>>7536020
for?

>>7536109
i believe everyone knows that feel...

>>7536105
Shit, I don't even sit if the option to lay down is present. As-is, I spend a good 14 hours in a chair, with no urge to really cease.

>>7536109
Just your left hemisphere being unable to keep up with the right.

>>7536117
Well, some people can quickly write huge texts like >>7536101
It's hard for me even in my native language.

>>7535864
>>7535853
I just wanted to say I enjoyed reading your post, largely because I could have written it. The first half of the second post in particular is especially how I would describe it.

>>7536138
>especially
I meant "exactly". I'm tired.

>>7536105
Don't worry, at lot of that has to do with getting fatter and all its associated risks. But NEETs rarely are fattties because they barely eat anything.

Still good to exercise and weight lift 6x a week though. Not like we have anything better to do.

Don't know, When it comes to social behavior, I'm somewhat normal... I have friends, a job and have no problem interracting with others.

However I am pedophile. This was triggered when I was 14... long story short, the girl was 10, she sat on me ass to dick, I caressed her flat chest and felt her pussy.

Where/How do I find a psychologist?

I can't even use the phone anymore without having a panic attack.

I'm socially avoidant and I get panic attacks in public situations. I don't really care though, I'm fine with my problems. I think I might be mentally retarded as well, but I can't confirm this. Either way, anyone who tries to "help" me is a douchebag. I'm tired of people expecting me to live the way they want me to live.

>>7536228
FUCK YOU
I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
FUCK YOU
I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
FUCK YOU
I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
FUCK YOU
I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP
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>>7536228

I'm socially avoidant, prone to panic attacks in public, I have PTSD, and Flanfly is my favorite thread on /jp/.

>Bunch of white twentysomethings who do nothing but refresh 4chan all day complaining about their lives

I seriously hope you don't do this.

>>7536302
Nice projection brah.

>>7536308

At least I don't have panic attacks just by being outside. You can stick to Gensokyo. REAL LIFE is where the big dawgs play.

I guess I said something the lady considered unusual at the military check-up and got an appointment to a psychologist. I was told I'm a very distant person and don't like to share my personal business. Guess more would come up if I were to go there more than once.

I think I have attempted to open a portal several times during the next 10 years and one of those tries has been successful.

>>7536326
Okay, let them be.

>>7536099
>>7536109
>>7536117
As someone who enjoys writing short stories I find it fairly easy to put the thoughts in my head into a post.

I suffer from being incredibly bored of everything in this world. It doesn't feel magical enough. I can live with it, but still.

I have constant panic attacks from being outside in public. I'm terrified of communicating with others (4chan is my only exception). I went to see a psychologist awhile ago about my fears and he told me to fuck off. After that I figured I probably don't have any real problems and I just have to learn to cope with it on my own somehow, but throwing myself into panic attack situations only gives me more panic attacks, so I'm not really making any progress anyway.

In 10 years I'll probably be homeless from not being able to afford living normally. Or dead if I don't have the will to survive. Them homeless people are fucking amazing, I don't know how they get by.

It's funny how much my paranoia prevents me from telling anyone what my main disorder is. No, not even to the anonymous internet. Writing it down at all means it could be traced back to me, one day.

Let's just say that I'm really good at hiding it, but I'm surprised no one has picked up on the hints. Especially due to my speech patterns being slightly off combined with my repeated reminders that I'm a grammar nazi.

>>7535229
In 10 years I will have finished my PhD in computer science and possibly my masters in EE, while making a 6 figure salary, feels good to be a normalfag on /jp/

>>7536398
Asperger's?

>>7536410
Don't brag about accomplishments you haven't actually accomplished yet. In 10 years, you could be a burned out former PhD student with debt and no degree nor respectable job to brag about.

>>7536428
If you start thinking like that, you have already lost.

>>7536389
>Also /jp/ is one of the most intelligent boards here by default of having on average an older userbase than the rest of 4chan (23-24), being basically impossible to troll.

I just started seeing a psychologist, but I have no idea if it will help. I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder a long time ago, and the guy says I have depression. I don't really see a future for myself in 10 years.

>>7536442
She's blown hundreds of dollars to make the faggiest builds possible, she uses silly bullshit like obscuring her health bar and painting her builds so that no one can see the parts she uses(as if the builds aren't know to everyone who can just go spectate a cbjp crown game), and she alt-f4's from a match if she should start losing.

>>7536446
>(23-24)
Fuck sake, is that all?

>>7536428
>lost
ON one hand, I know where you're coming from, but on the other, it's a fucking retarded place you're coming from.

>>7536463
Wait, what? I think you replied to the wrong post.

I iqdb interesting images just so I can read the comments on the boorus. How insane does that make me?

>>7536478
You think he's telling the poster above to fuck off.

>>7536470
Drive and determination are what people see, to accomplish anything note worthy you will need at least some people backing you.

If you go in trying to achieve something big while assuming the worst outcome from the start, then your drive will slowly coast away, and no one will see it. They will just see someone who doesn't believe in themselves, lacks self confidence etc. Very few people will be willing to back such a person.

>>7536493
I do that too, and I'd probably be considered a normalfag by /jp/ standards.

i am socially inept due to my autism
but i am going to therapy bi-weekly
it's HELL but it's working for me
i can't make eye contact, but were getting that fixed

>>7536415
What? No, nothing that obvious, or that easy to admit.

>>7536511
So?
Who cares what people see?

>>7536551
I used to think the same, then I tried getting a job in business. Impressions are vital if you want to advance anywhere important. People are more receptive to confidence than anything else. You can be a genius in your art but if you come across as weak willed or submissive, you will be overlooked by the more confident, even if they're less talented.

Only geniuses can sport that "don't give a shit what anyone thinks" attitude. For the regulars, achieving high end goals isn't impossible without some help.

>>7536551
If you want to really accomplish anything big, you should.

>>7536551
I used to think the same, then I tried getting a job in business. Impressions are vital if you want to advance anywhere important. People are more receptive to confidence than anything else. You can be a genius in your art but if you come across as weak willed or submissive, you will be overlooked by the more confident, even if they're less talented.

Only geniuses can sport that "don't give a shit what anyone thinks" attitude. For the regulars, achieving high end goals is impossible without some help.

I can bealive how beautiful you are /jp/

You are truly beatitiful.

>>7536597

I wish people would stop lying to me like that.

>>7536428
>>Don't brag about accomplishments you haven't actually accomplished yet.

Agreed 100%, results are all I care about. Words mean little.

>>7536604
I'm not lying.

/jp/ is full with people that are beautiful in a unique way. Its hard to explain, but, this is the real beauty of the human race.

I really hope one day you could solve your problems /jp/

well, my psychiatrist didn't tell me what's up with me but i'm getting stuff that makes me feel better, increases my motivation a bit, makes me less aggressive towards other people and as a bonus lowers my urge to fap.

>>7536592
>Accomplish anything big
Nope. Not a single shred of ambition in me, and I don't understand it in others.
>>7536595
>achieving high end goals
Overachievers? In MY /jp/?
Confidence flows from being comfortable in who you are. Not that you don't have a point.

>>7536637

I wish that was true of me. But I have not achieved beauty yet.

>>7536642
>bonus
That's not a bonus, that's a fucking crime. But if that's what you want...

I have mental disorders I'm so kewl and different xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD, look at me!

>>7536649
i'd rather fap once a day and come a lot than 8 times per day and finish within 5 minutes with a meh feeling.

>>7536660
That IS pretty excessive...

Depression, schizoid PD, social anxiety. My psych just thinks I have minor depression, and the rest are due to not spending time in public and being an asshole. I think it's a bit more than that, but whatever. In 10 years, I'll probably be (if not dead) doing the same thing I am now, except I might start working a min-wage job.

Uh, no. It's not a good idea to see a psychologist, unless you're that hopeless.

>>7535229

I said no you stupid mother bitch.

>>7536686
Give your reasoning.

On one hand, seeing a psychologist is a lot more pro-active than self-diagnosing and commiserating on the internet about how miserable you are. On the other hand, there are a ton of mental health "professionals" who would rather take advantage of your weakness and make a buck off of you than actually want to help you.

Saw a psychologist when I applied to ssi. She never really said anything concrete, but the forms said I had Major Clinical Depression, so that's diagnosed at least.

Aside from that, I have the /jp/ regular. Social anxiety, agoraphobia, antisocial disorder, blah blah blah.

>>7536695
>On the other hand, there are a ton of mental health "professionals" who would rather take advantage of your weakness and make a buck off of you than actually want to help you.

There's my reason. Most of them really don't help much. If I'm wrong, it's probably because mine is an insensitive bitch.

I c'ant talk, I don't like to talk, I can't look at other people in the eyes. I couldn't even talk to my therapist, I aswered his question with one word while looking at my feet. He politely told me to fuck off, because he couldn't be of any help.
Feels bad. ;_;

1. See a psychiatrist.
2. End up in prison.
There is no hope.

>>7536744
He didn't even offer to get you free money?

>>7536744
>>7536720
What is the point of going to these people if they are like this. I might be going to one soon but im worried they just want money and dont give a shit. Im also afraid if they give me meds because from what ive seen they just give you random shit that might fuck with your brain. if they give me shit without real deal tests on my brain,fuck it.

I don't know what "mental issues" I have because I've never gone to a psychologist, and I'm not a wikipedia self-diagnoser.
I'm pretty afraid of going outside though so I just take it easy inside.

>>7536974
>might fuck with your brain
That's...the point. Science doesn't have a particularly solid grasp on root causes of mental disorders, and can only attempt to solve the problem via what basically comes down to human experimentation. Can't monitor synapse activity very easily, you dig? So they just try one drug after another until they find one that changes you in a way that they think you should be changed, for better or for worse...

Narcissism mainly.

>>7536744
>>7536720
Wow, that's horrible. The psychologist I'm seeing is really nice, even though I'm a hopeless sack of shit. I'm not even paying anything.

>>7536974
If it's any consolation, I went to one when I was younger - parents sent me there due to my eating habbits. I was diagnosed with an eating disorder but didn't fall into the anorexic camp. The psych was a pretty nice guy, he didn't force anything from me and didn't try to prescribe any drugs etc, parents stopped sending me to him after he tried bringing them into the equation and he seemed to strike a nerve with one of them.

That said, he didn't save me from becoming a NEET. I was far too afraid to bring up the things that were really troubling me then, likewise far too afraid to go and see one as I am now.

My only advice if you do see one is that you won't get anything out of it if you don't open up, at least to some extent, but you should emphasise that you'd rather not be put on medication.

Pretty sure I have schizoid personality disorder.

In 10 years I'll probably be dead due to long-standing medical problems which dont receive adequate treatment being that I'm American and in America we have shit health care.

Also, take note-- Psychologists cannot prescribe medication, as they are not medical doctors like psychiatrists are.

They can, however, make a recommendation to your doctor.

>>7537015
Sounds like me. I saw one when I was in high school but we never got down to anything substantial. I didn't communicate and she didn't really try to get me to.

Aspergers, Bipolar, Depression.
I'm taking meds now, before the voices take over

In 10 years I'll be either dead or lurking /jp/

>>80% of /jp/ will be dead in 10 years

Feels badman.

>>7537061

I will live on. It is my destiny.

>>7537061
I am, by nature, a survivor.
I'll probably still be here, too.
I can just see the happiness on your faces already.

I don't like that picture in the OP

>>7537061
My family has a history of great luck on my mother's side, and longevity on both sides. I'll be here untill the end, whether I like it or not.

>>7537098
I love it. I open it whenever I scroll past this thread.

>>7537061
I'm only a lurker so don't worry.

You guys should all read Der Steppenwolf by Hermann Hesse. I believe you'd relate to the main character a lot, plus there's some very interesting things there about suicide and whatnot.

>>7537123
Me too. It's good on so many levels.

>>7537235
>>7537123
fuck yeah, so much stories to imagine that lead to both (happy and "bad" endings)...

oh god, those fangs on my neck~

Do you want not to give fuck about (girl)friends, life and money? Watch this guy if you want and have time. He helped me a lot.

Anthony de Mello - Rediscovering life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDXSQUph2Jk&feature=related

>"Even the best psychologist will tell you that, that people don't really want to be cured. What they want is relief; a cure is painful. "

>"Most people don't live aware lives. They live mechanical lives, mechanical thoughts -- generally somebody else's -- mechanical emotions, mechanical actions, mechanical reactions. "

>"Loneliness is not cured by human company. Loneliness is cured by contact with reality. "

and least but not last

>"Where there is love there are no demands, no expectations, no dependency. I do not demand that you make me happy; my happiness does not lie in you. If you were to leave me, I will not feel sorry for myself; I enjoy your company immensely, But I do not cling. "

>>7537216
Which reminds me, is it a problem that I identify so much with the Chief in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? I mean, compared to everyone else, his only problem (besides the PTSD) was that he didn't feel like it was worth saying anything to anyone, because it wouldn't change a thing.

Thanks for being my personal asylum, /jp/.

>>7537028
Who are better Psychologists or psychiatrists? I think i might be going to a psychiatrist for a evaluation.

>>7537686
Psychiatrist is licensed to give you drugs and will likely just hand out drugs instead of using psychotherapy as a Psychologist would. Also as should be obvious Psychiatrist will cost a shitton more basically due to drugs.

>>7537686
Depends on if you think your problem is biological and could be solved with medication or psychological and needs to be solved with therapy.

Brotip: You probably need both but a pychologist won't push peels down you.

Depression and some sort of an anxiety problem. I have no diagnoses though, at least not yet.
I went to see a doctor for those problems some time ago, I got a time for a psychiatrist and a vacation from school (I hadn't gone in a while anyway, but at least I won't need to drop out now). My therapy will start in a couple months, I don't know when I'll be able to continue studying again - I might try after this summer, but then I'd need some special arrangements for sure. I just can't go back to 30-40 hours a week. I am not sure if those are possible.

>>7537701
>>7537706
Im kinda of sacred of meds.. my mother is this suffering with them and if she gets off of them she goes crazy..

Depression and anxiety.

>>7537733
>Depression and obesity.

>>7538133
Now, now, I refrained from such an obvious joke. You can too. Try being more original next time.

Besides, not a mental issue.

>>7538208
It leads to depression.

>>7538252
Be that as it may, stale jokes lead to my depression.